Universal Electronics Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • The company delivered a 28.7% gross margin in Q2 2024—up 580 basis points year-over-year—and expects to annualize near a 30% gross margin by early 2025 as it completes its manufacturing footprint optimization.
  • Q2 2024 net sales were $90.5 million (near the low end of guidance) with a net loss of $1.2 million ($0.09 per share), compared to a $3.1 million loss in Q2 2023; Q3 sales are guided to $98–108 million with EPS of $0.01–0.11.
  • Universal’s “land and expand” approach has secured design wins with 7 of the top 9 global HVAC providers, and Daikin now accounts for 10% of UEI’s revenues, reinforcing its position in connected home and climate control markets.
  • Management continues to invest in innovation, holding more than 730 issued and pending U.S. patents, to strengthen its technology portfolio in smart home automation and home entertainment solutions.
  • The transition to streamlined manufacturing—scaling facilities in Vietnam and Mexico while closing the China plant—is roughly 80–90% complete, driving ongoing cost savings and operational efficiencies.
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Earnings Conference Call
Universal Electronics Q2 2024
00:00 / 00:00

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Universal Electronics Second Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.

Operator

I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Kirsten Chapman with LHA Investor Relations Division of Alliance Advisors. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Andrea, and thank you all for joining us for the Universal Electronics 20 24 Second Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. By now, you should have received a copy of the press release. If you've not, please contact LHA at 415-433-3777 or visit the Investor Relations section of the website. This call is being broadcast live over the Internet. A webcast replay of this call, including any additional updated material non public information that might be disclosed during this call, will be available on the company's website at ww w.uei.com for 1 year.

Speaker 1

During this call, management may make forward looking statements regarding future events and the future financial performance of the company and cautions you that these statements are just projections and actual results or events may differ materially from those projections. These statements include the company's ability to continue capturing design wins in the connected home and home entertainment markets, particularly in the climate control and home automation markets through the development and delivery of unique and innovative solutions and excellent customer service as anticipated by management. The continued growth of the business with the company's largest customers in the climate controlled space, which can be leveraged to attract industry leaders to our product and technology offerings. Management's ability to continue to manage its business through cost saving initiatives and optimization of the company's manufacturing facilities and cash flows to be achieved improved results by expected management expected by management. The continued successful expansion of the company's IP portfolio and the licensing of the company's technologies, the company's ability to capture potential upside opportunities in the traditional subscription broadcasting business due to its continued strong leadership strong leading market share and the direct and indirect impact the company may experience with respect to its business and financial results stemming from the continued economic uncertainty affecting consumers' confidence in spending, natural disasters, public health crises, governmental actions or political unrest, including war, terrorist activities or other hostilities.

Speaker 1

The company undertakes no obligation to revise or update these statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after today's date and refers you to the press release mentioned at the onset of this call and the documents the company has filed with the SEC, including its 2023 Annual Report on Form 10 ks and the periodic reports filed or furnished since then. In management's financial remarks, adjusted non GAAP metrics will be referenced. Management provides adjusted non GAAP metrics because it uses them for budget planning purposes and for making operational and financial decisions and believes that providing these non GAAP financial measures to investors as a supplement to GAAP financial measures help investors evaluate UEI's core operating and financial performance and business trends consistent with how management evaluates such performance and trends. In addition, management believes these measures facilitate comparisons in core operating and financial results and business trends of competitors and other companies. A full description and reconciliation of these adjusted non GAAP measures versus GAAP are included in the company's press release issued today.

Speaker 1

Also, the company will no longer exclude excess manufacturing overhead costs resulting from the continued transition of its global manufacturing footprint, specifically in Mexico and Vietnam and the depreciation related to the markup from the cost of fair value of fixed assets in business combinations from its adjusted non GAAP figures. This impacts adjusted non GAAP gross profit, gross margin, operating income or loss, income or loss before provision or benefit from income taxes and income or loss in the quarterly results for 2023 2024. There is no impact to GAAP results. A supplemental table of these reconciliations is posted on our website in the Q2 2024 Quarterly Results section. On the call today are Chairman and CEO, Paul Arling, who will deliver an overview and CFO, Brian Hackworth, who will summarize the financials.

Speaker 1

Paul will then return to provide closing remarks. It's now my pleasure to introduce Paul Arlen. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2

Thank you for joining us today. Our innovative wireless control solutions and patented technologies continue to capture design wins from major global household brands in both the connected home and home entertainment markets. We lead wireless device control and our design wins are laying the foundation for a stronger future. We are fortifying our business by building new customer relationships and as we always have expanding existing relationships. We are expanding our IP and technology portfolio and importantly reducing our expenses, while still investing in the future product and technology solutions that will drive future growth in sales and earnings.

Speaker 2

We continue to focus our cost management on optimizing our global manufacturing footprint, which has yielded higher margins. In the Q2 of 2024, gross margin increased 580 basis points over the prior year quarter. As a result of these efforts, we were more profitable in the first half of twenty twenty four than we were in the same period in 2023. Looking forward in the second half of twenty twenty four, we expect to be more profitable than in the second half of twenty twenty three. In addition, we are positioned to deliver consistent sales and earnings growth into 2025, 2026 and beyond.

Speaker 2

Now I'll review our markets and some recent customer activity. We continue to execute our successful land and expand strategy. Once we get our foot in the door, our design and development expertise, superior technologies and great customer service continue to deliver new product design wins. We have demonstrated this tactic in home entertainment, building our share to become the global leader in universal control technology. Emulating the same approach in climate control and other markets, we are targeting the largest providers in the industry and have already secured design wins with 7 of the top 9 that meet our margin threshold.

Speaker 2

Now we are scaling with these customers and are in discussions about projects with the remaining 2. These relationships tend to be very sticky and we look forward to extending our reach. Our history with Daikin, the world's largest climate control company exemplifies the strategy execution. Daikin was an account we acquired through an acquisition in 2010. At that time, Daikin represented less than $5,000,000 of our global revenues and our product solutions were comprised mostly of handheld and Walmart controllers and we represented less than 10% of Daikin's total controller purchasing.

Speaker 2

Today UEI is Daikin's largest climate control solutions provider and our portfolio of products has expanded to include advanced cloud connected and ZigBee enabled thermostats that connect to sensors around the home that deliver a more optimized energy management solution for consumers. As a result of our design, development, delivery and service quality, we are proud to call Daikin a 10% customer for UEI. Our goal is to scale our existing business with other industry leaders, including Carrier, Trane, Fujitsu, Mitsubishi, Toshiba and LG, while adding new customers that are world leaders in this important growing market. Looking at the Connected Home and climate control in particular, we expect continued growth driven by rising demand, government incentives and a focus on energy efficiency and sustainability. While the industry is still working to clear accumulated inventory, we expect the temporal issue to be resolved by the end of 2024.

Speaker 2

Meanwhile, there is no doubt that the trend in climate control is to more energy efficient, greener products. Product development amongst the world leaders in this industry are intensely focused on driving this change. HVAC manufacturing providers are introducing more energy efficient heat pumps that are becoming more common than the rest of the world. This market change can tend to introduce complexity however. Many homes still need supplemental heating to handle more extreme cold.

Speaker 2

And with other smart home products and technologies entering everyday life, there is a growing desire and need to simplify the setup and use of these sometimes disparate systems into a single simple user interface. This is exactly the type of challenge that has been our hallmark for decades. And our solutions are gaining traction with world leaders in this market because we have long demonstrated our excellence in this challenge of interoperability. In smart home automation, we are at the early stages of building a solid foothold in delivering smart control solutions for major household brands, leveraging a strong pipeline of new product introductions, including smart thermostats, connected remote controls, smart sensors and more. In addition, our hospitality channel, which includes multi dwelling unit integrators, is building momentum as we begin to penetrate the major smart home automation service providers in this channel.

Speaker 2

These customers offer smart apartment systems integrating our turnkey climate control and sensing solutions. This channel represents strong long term potential for retrofit upgrades and new building opportunities. In home entertainment, we continue to see a level of stabilization in orders across our customer base. While some of our customers continue to experience declines, others are showing some resilience and we are seeing a level of activity that we have not seen in the past 3 years. Due to our strong market position and leading product and technology solutions, we are able to capture any potential upside.

Speaker 2

Our engagements include supplying control devices for hybrid streaming and live services, providing sustainability technologies and solutions, supporting full service refurbishment programs as well as engaging with broadband suppliers to bring new functionality to their gateways. Overall, the combination of existing long term customer relationships in home entertainment and the momentum we are building with new customer relationships in connected home continue to bear fruit and will drive long term growth. Now to the financials. Brian, please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Paul. I'll review the results for the Q2 of 2024 compared to the Q2 of 2023. But first, I'd like to explain a change to our adjusted non GAAP financials resulting from a recent SEC comment letter. Our adjusted non GAAP financial statements no longer exclude excess manufacturing overhead costs resulting from our factory footprint transition and depreciation related to the markup from cost to fair value of fixed assets acquired in business combinations. These changes are reflected in the year to date 2024 financials as well as the corresponding prior year periods.

Speaker 3

These adjustments have no effect on our GAAP financials. I'll provide a more detailed manufacturing update in a minute. But just as a quick reminder, the expansion of our factory footprint in recent years has been necessary given the changes, sometimes sudden in governmental policies as well as the overall global environment. These changes have led to duplicative factories in the short run and consequently temporal excess manufacturing overhead. For the Q2 ending June 30, 2024, costs associated with the aforementioned items amounted to $1,400,000 equivalent to 160 basis points of gross margin or $0.09 per share.

Speaker 3

For the Q2 of 2023, costs for these items were $2,700,000 equivalent to 2 50 basis points of gross margin or $0.18 per share. Please keep these figures in mind when reviewing our quarterly results. Net sales were $90,500,000 within guidance, but near the low end of the range provided as certain customers pushed out orders from the Q2 to the beginning of Q3. In addition, cord cutting the video service channel and less consumer spending on discretionary durable goods continue to act as headwinds. Sales in the prior year quarter were $107,400,000 Gross profit for the Q2 of 2024 was $26,000,000 or 28.7 percent of sales compared to 22.9% in the Q2 of 2023 and 28.3% in the Q1 of 2024.

Speaker 3

The continuous improvement in our gross margin rate both year over year and sequentially is attributable to our operations team's efforts on optimizing our global manufacturing footprint. This multifaceted transition has resulted in a much more efficient global footprint coupled with a lower cost structure. This effort is nearing completion. We closed 2023 strong completing the first two phases ahead of schedule, commencing operations in our new Vietnam facility and closing our factory in Southwestern China. Our Vietnam factory continues to scale and meet or exceed our expectations.

Speaker 3

Recently, the Vietnam facility successfully completed an RVA VAP audit and received recognition for demonstrating a high level of compliance. In the Q2 of this year, we moved into a smaller, more efficient facility in Monterrey, Mexico that supplies product for certain North American customers. We continue to analyze and balance production for products destined for North America between Vietnam and Mexico in order to maximize efficiencies. The rebalancing of our production is scheduled to be completed in the Q1 of 2025 and at this point our annualized gross margin rate should approximate 30 points. For the Q2 of 2024, operating expenses decreased to $27,100,000 compared to $29,200,000 in the Q2 of 2023 reflecting our cost savings initiatives.

Speaker 3

SG and A expenses decreased to $19,700,000 compared to $21,000,000 in the prior year quarter. R and D expenses decreased to $7,400,000 compared to 8 $200,000 in the prior year quarter. Operating loss was $1,100,000 compared to $4,500,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Net loss for the Q2 of 2024 was $1,200,000 or $0.09 per share compared to $3,100,000 or $0.24 in the Q2 of 2023. Next, I'll review our cash flow and balance sheet.

Speaker 3

At June 30, 2024 cash and cash equivalents were $23,100,000 compared to $42,800,000 at December 31, 2023. For the 6 months ended June 30, 2024 net cash provided by operating activities was $2,700,000 which includes a mandatory $5,000,000 security deposit relating to a contract dispute with a former labor agency in China. Year to date, we repurchased 122,000 shares in the open market for $1,100,000 and reduced our outstanding line of credit by 14,000,000 dollars from $55,000,000 at December 31, 2023 to $41,000,000 at June 30, 2024. Now turning to our guidance. For the Q3 of 2024, we expect sales to range from $98,000,000 to $108,000,000 compared to $107,100,000 in the Q3 of 2023.

Speaker 3

We expect EPS to range from $0.01 to 0 point 11 dollars dollars compared to $0.06 per diluted share in the Q3 of 2023. We also expect the second half twenty twenty four to be stronger than the second half of twenty twenty three. I'd now like to turn the call back to Paul.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Brian. We are quite positive about the future. Even while cutting SG and A costs, we have continued to invest in product development and our intellectual property. Now we have more than 7.30 issued and pending U. S.

Speaker 2

Patents as well as many foreign counterparts. Our differentiated features and technology continue to secure new projects and the customers we are winning in the connected home are beginning to enter the next stage of their journey, expansion. We have run this path before and it is progressing favorably once again. First, our differentiating features attract new customers and our innovation wins us new projects. Next, we prove to the customer we can deliver high quality solutions that delight the end user.

Speaker 2

And of course, we deliver high quality products and solutions on time. Then our customers award UEI more and more projects. This pattern is reminiscent of our growth in home entertainment, where we are now the undisputed leader in wireless control. It's true that HVAC security and other channels in the connected home have longer product cycles than home entertainment. This may elongate our land and expand timetable, yet we also believe it will make our wins stickier.

Speaker 2

While this transition has taken longer than we or anyone else would have liked, we are making great progress towards building strong long term customer relationships with the leading companies in the industry. We are doing it similarly to how we have done it before. We are building momentum with new customer relationships in the connected home that will drive long term growth, strengthened by our continued focus on creating products and feature enhancements that bring value and innovation to the markets we serve. These exciting new product technology and associated customer developments, combined with our cost reduction efforts, make us confident that we are positioned to deliver consistent long term sales and earnings growth into next year and beyond. As always, stay tuned.

Speaker 2

Operator, we can now open up the call for questions.

Speaker 1

Thank you. At this time,

Operator

we will conduct a question and answer session. Our first question comes from Steven Frankel with Rosenblatt Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good afternoon. Thank you. Paul, I want to dig in on the comments you made about inventory issues, I think that was in HVAC and tie that to your comments in the last couple of quarters about a back half ramp in some of these new design wins for smart thermostats. So kind of where are we and what's the outlook for the

Speaker 3

next couple of quarters with those products?

Speaker 2

Yes. Yes. A couple elements to that question. 1, on existing designs that we have out, we have seen and I think any inventory that they have may have been for them forecasting a better second half than they're seeing. We have seen in certain parts of the world some of the incentives for these new energy efficient technologies drawn back a little bit.

Speaker 2

We and our customers who have experienced this do not think it's long term. These incentives are typically put in place, not to get into more detail than we should here, but the heat pumps and other energy efficient technologies are typically more expensive to the consumer. So governments across the world have incentivized them. We've even done some of that here in the U. S.

Speaker 2

Because they want to incentivize the movement towards these products. They do not they can cool your home and heat your home without using any fossil fuels at all or natural gas. So essentially they're incentivized. Those incentivized were drawn back. So some of our customers feel that that will be impacting demand as we go through the rest of the year.

Speaker 2

But they don't think it's long term, because again, the movement towards these technologies has been happening for some years and will probably continue into the next decade or 2. All of the companies, as I said in the prepared remarks, are spending a great deal of time and effort and money on R and D in making these heat pumps even more efficient, even more affordable and maybe even get them to the point where they could replace even in the northern climates, the combination of AC and furnace, which is really what they're attempting to do long term. So those incentives are also being put in place. There's another one in Europe that's coming. I think it's at the end of 'twenty five or into 'twenty six.

Speaker 2

I think it's called the Super Climate Fund. It's about €90,000,000,000 to help this transition to these more energy efficient technologies. So it's things like this that they our customers see as a real prompting for demand. They may see temporal shortfalls or drawdowns of inventory or buildup of inventory that can affect us for a quarter or 2. But I think the movement in this market is like movements we've seen in others, where the movement of technology forward happens.

Speaker 2

Sometimes it's bumpy, but it will happen over a 1 to 10 year period with bumps along the way, but it's a movement that is underway.

Speaker 3

All right.

Speaker 4

Well, let me go at it in a different way. Of your 7 HVAC partners, how many with how many of those are you in market today with product?

Speaker 2

I don't think we're with all of them yet. With the majority of them, we are. Of course, with Daikin, it's a long term relationship. So we've been in the market with them for quite a long time. Many of these the other customers in the regions of the world like the U.

Speaker 2

S. And Europe, we are brand new. So those projects are still on track. Some of them got delayed by months. The testing regimens for these products are both more stringent and take longer.

Speaker 2

So we have seen some month long or a few month delays in those testing regimens for those companies. But it doesn't affect our long term view. 2 months on a product is we don't like it, but it doesn't affect our long term view of either that product or our relationship with that customer. So we're in the Most of them, we do have some projects on a few of them that haven't launched yet. So they're still at the early stage of this customer development where typically as I was saying customers start with 1, maybe 2 SKUs or projects.

Speaker 2

Then you go through lessons learned with them, just like we did in home entertainment. And then what happens is you if you do well, which we have been so far with each of these customers, they typically will award you more of their portfolio of business. It happened in consumer electronics with televisions. It happened in subscription broadcasting. In that regard, it's not that dissimilar here.

Speaker 4

Okay. And in the script, Brian talked about some orders that were pushed from Q2 to Q3. Were those in the HVAC space or was that in another part of your business? It

Speaker 5

was a little bit of both,

Speaker 3

Steve, that transferred from Q2 to Q3.

Speaker 4

Okay. And then to understand this new gross margin accounting treatment, You're basically now the only thing that comes out of gross margin or things like stock based comp. And did your EPS guidance for the quarter contemplate this change or was it done under the prior method?

Speaker 3

Q2's guidance was done under the old method. And if not for we ended up in a new method at $0.09 loss. Now to quantify the effect of the excess manufacturing overhead, it was equivalent to $0.09 So I'll let you do the math. And then for Q3, obviously, we took into consideration the new the guidance includes the new methodology.

Speaker 2

Yes. So this quarter, Steve, the guidance did not include this effect. But going forward, as it is our new method, the guidance is provided on the new method.

Speaker 4

And is that $0.09 kind of the number we should think about adjusting in our models? Or do we think about, well, take where the gross margin is now and just say, okay, you've made a comment that it's going to hit 30% and sometime in early 2025, do you have to draw a line between those two points?

Speaker 3

Yes, more the latter. I think we're at 28.7% in the second quarter. I expect Q3 to be slightly better than that and then I expect Q1 to be better than that. So what we're seeing is, especially since we're not including the excess manufacturing overhead, every in the pro form a on a go forward basis, any improvement we see at the factory you're seeing dropping to the bottom line. So right now we're pretty far through the transition.

Speaker 3

We spun up Vietnam, we shut down GTQ, we streamlined Mexico, we're doing some rebalancing now. So we're probably 80%, 90% through the transition of the manufacturing footprint optimization. So we're probably a couple of quarters away from getting to the full, call it, 30 points that we expect to be at. Okay.

Speaker 4

Very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Greg Burns with Sidoti. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Just to follow-up on the orders that were pushed out from the Q2. Could you quantify the amount

Speaker 3

that was delayed? Yes, it's a few. Okay.

Speaker 5

And Paul, I think in the past couple of quarters ago, maybe you quantified the pipeline of HVAC and home automation opportunity. And I think I think the number was like $80,000,000 of annualized new project wins with maybe a total pipeline value of $200,000,000 When you look at your Q3 guidance, are you starting to deliver against that $80,000,000 And has there been any changes as the either the one contract number increased or the total pipeline value increased at all?

Speaker 2

Yes. No, they're similar to before the pipeline we track and there are 100 of millions of projects. I think I did of course explain that those are the projects we aren't working to develop to ship. We have multiple categories of leads. We have qualification quotes and then one.

Speaker 2

One is where we do the most work because the customer at that point is committed to buying the product on a certain time schedule. So that's where the we do engineering work before that on leads, qualifications and quotes, of course, because we have to define the product and work with the customer to define it. But the most work happens after you've won the project. And then there are usually dates set for it and etcetera. So the pipeline still is very strong.

Speaker 2

There are 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars in it. We will, of course, strive to win all of it, but probably will not win all of it. And so that's what we're trying to get across. There's a lot of business in this market that's out there. The size is even bigger than that.

Speaker 2

Those are the only the projects we've identified so far. This market is almost $2,000,000,000 and growing. So there's a lot of business out there for us to go gain and we are doing that. We expect next year and the years after as we said in the prepared comments, to be layering on business, new projects, hopefully every quarter, new projects that are driving revenue.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn it back to Paul Arling for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Okay. Thank you for joining us today. We will be at the Sidoti Virtual Conference in September and look forward to seeing you there or meeting with you there. Thank you for your continued support of Universal Electronics. Have a great day.

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect.

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