NYSE:BOWL Bowlero Q4 2024 Earnings Report $9.66 +0.21 (+2.22%) As of 05/2/2025 Earnings HistoryForecast Bowlero EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.06Consensus EPS -$0.01Beat/MissMissed by -$0.05One Year Ago EPSN/ABowlero Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$283.87 millionExpected Revenue$273.33 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$10.54 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABowlero Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date9/5/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, September 5, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Bowlero Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrSeptember 5, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Abby, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Bolero 4th Quarter and Fiscal Year 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. And after the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:36Thank you. And I would now like to turn the conference over to Bobby Lavin, Chief Financial Officer. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:47Good afternoon to everyone on the call. This is Bobby Lavin, Valero's Chief Financial Officer. Welcome to our conference call to discuss Valero's Q4 2024 earnings. Today, we issued a press release announcing our financial results for the period ended June 30, 2024. A copy of the press release is available in the Investor Relations section of our website. Speaker 100:01:10Joining me today are Thomas Shannon, our Founder and Chief Executive Officer and Lev Exter, our President. I'd like to remind you that during today's conference call, we may make certain forward looking statements. Such forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and therefore, one should not place undue reliance on them. Forward looking statements are also subject to the inherent risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed. For additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from those discussed in our forward looking statements, you should refer to the cautionary statements contained in our press release as well as the risk factors contained in the company's filings with the SEC. Speaker 100:01:51Valero Corporation undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that occur after today's call. Also during today's call, the company may discuss certain non GAAP financial measures as defined by SEC Regulation G. GAAP financial measures most directly comparable to each non GAAP financial measure discussed and the reconciliation of the differences between each non GAAP financial measure and the comparable GAAP financial measure will be found on the company's website. I'll now turn the call over to Tom. Speaker 200:02:23Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us today. I am Thomas Shannon, Founder and CEO of Bolero Corporation. When I founded our company 27.5 years ago, I was driven to provide customers with a world class experience With a positive 6.9% same store comp and near 20% revenue growth this most recent quarter, our results speak for themselves and we have become a premier location based entertainment platform. In 2013, we acquired 266 centers from AMF at a bankruptcy for $270,000,000 We spent the past 10 years investing deliberately in rebranding the centers, upgrades across the kitchen, audiovisual, seating, technology and overall experience. Speaker 200:03:12These legacy bowling centers became the best in class entertainment location in their communities for children's birthday parties, corporate gatherings, leagues, date nights and group outings. At the same time, they run efficiently and operate at near 50% EBITDAR margins compared with an industry average less than half that. This playbook was repeated with our acquisition of the 85 Boeing Centers from Brunswick Corporation in 2014, 17 Centers from BOL America in 2022, the 14 Centers of Lucky Strike in 2023 and almost 50 from sole proprietors along with building around 20 new centers in superb locations during this time period. We have spent over $2,000,000,000 on acquisitions and capital expenditures over the past 27 years and in fiscal year 2025, we project $520,000,000 of 4 wall EBITDA and more than $400,000,000 of consolidated EBITDA. We target strong double digit returns on invested capital and we have the expertise to continue achieving that. Speaker 200:04:20We continue to drive forward with the majority of our focus on deploying capital into Bowling through new builds, acquisitions and upgrading our centers. We are currently under construction on 4 new centers in Beverly Hills, California, Ladera Ranch, California, Northfield in Denver and Southlands also in Denver. These powerhouse locations will open between September November of this year. In May 2024, we acquired a large water park in Yorkville, Illinois named Raging Waves. We acquired this asset along with 60 acres of real estate at an attractive valuation and underwrote synergies from implementing our operating philosophies and having efficiencies at scale. Speaker 200:05:04Throughout our 1st summer, we implemented our tried and true practices of focusing on the consumer, while also executing efficient operating standards. I am happy to say that revenue was up double digits year over year and we have identified significant capital deployment opportunities at the property to deliver powerful long term growth. This experience with Raging Waves confirms that the Bolero operating philosophy can expand outside of Boeing as we look more broadly at the location based entertainment industry. We will continue to seek opportunities to deploy capital for double digit returns, while implementing best in class operating standards that drive efficiencies at scale and grow earnings well in excess of our cost of capital. We will deliver outsized returns to our investors that will continue to scale and accelerate in the coming years. Speaker 200:05:57Let me hand it over to Lev to talk about our internal initiatives and then Bobby will review the financial details. Thank you. Speaker 300:06:05Thanks, Tom. This summer, our season passes were a success driving traffic during the slower summer months. As a reminder, our weekly sales from April through November are approximately $17,000,000 compared to $25,000,000 plus starting in December through March. Incremental traffic into our locations with improved attachment helps our business during the slower months. We believe the seasonal passes improve customer satisfaction by providing value and ultimately helping them revisit our locations during the critical holiday and winter periods. Speaker 300:06:39As we discussed last quarter, we are leaning heavily into increasing food and beverage sales. This summer, we started the rollout of all new retail F and B menus and by the end of this month, all of our locations will be featuring a new menu that will be more compelling to our guests, featuring better presentation, a better offering and better portion sizes. The new menus are setting us up for success in the holidays, when we will also be introducing a fully revamped event catering menu for our top 75 locations with an innovative offering of higher quality selections, such as Mike's Hot Honey Pizza, Spicy Rigatoni, Lobster Mac and Cheese and Sweet Poppy Salad. Additionally, we have begun piloting tablets for the servers in our locations, which provide strong efficiencies from having to walk back and forth to point of sale stations, thereby improving the process for our associates and the experience of our guests. The Lucky Shrek brand has a new logo, which we will be hanging on 3 new locations opening in the next few months, 2 in Denver and 1 in Beverly Hills. Speaker 300:07:45More to come on the expansion of the Lucky Shrek brand. We will continue to optimize our offerings to improve customer satisfaction and traffic, while increasing guest spend as we look to become the preferred out of home entertainment destination of choice. This is how we will continue to outperform our peers. And now I'll pass it over to Bobby. Speaker 100:08:07Thanks, Lev. In the Q4 of 2024, we generated total revenue ex service fee of $283,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $83,400,000 compared to the last year of 235,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $64,500,000 As a reminder, Service Fee revenue is a pass through. Non contributor earnings is being phased out and normalizes year over year in fiscal year 2025. Our total growth in the quarter was 20.2% and same store comp was positive 6.9%. April, May June all saw positive same store growth. Speaker 100:08:44Adjusted EBITDA was $83,400,000 up 29% year over year as we return to positive comp and meaningful operating leverage. In the quarter, we had a $2,000,000 insurance true up and PBA continue to operate at a worse than expected loss. Food costs are headwind that we will manage through in the upcoming year. While the previously mentioned Amusement's investments have turned positive with Amusement contribution outperforming the rest of the business in the quarter. We expect to achieve operating leverage around 50% in FY 2025 as we have comped the March 2023 manager wage increases and one time COVID costs. Speaker 100:09:24We found a good balance of investing in payroll and managing costs with our same store comp payroll flat year over year in the quarter, which is better than last quarter at negative $4,000,000 Non comp centers contributed $9,000,000 of EBITDA on approximately $32,000,000 of revenue. Paging Waves, our water park in Illinois contributed $3,500,000 of revenue $2,000,000 of EBITDA in June. The week of July 4 was a slow start to the year and July 4 falling on a Thursday this year versus Tuesday the prior year and we have seen positive same store comps since mid July. In our press release today, we issued fiscal year 2025 guidance. While we are hearing concerns in the market and weakness in the consumer, we're not seeing signs of that and at this point are guiding to total growth of mid single digits to 10% in fiscal 2025. Speaker 100:10:17This includes a forecast of low to mid single digit same store sales comp. EBITDA margins will be 32% to 34%. We spent $193,000,000 in capital expenditures in FY 2024. As we shift our focus to internal initiatives, we are pairing back our capital expenditure plans for FY 2025 with a total CapEx spend expected to be $154,000,000 The breakdown includes growth CapEx of $50,000,000 newbuild CapEx of $45,000,000 maintenance of $44,000,000 and we plan to allocate $15,000,000 of CapEx to rebranding Bolero Centers to Lucky Strike. We plan to continue to balance investing in our growth and rewarding our shareholders. Speaker 100:10:59We increased our revolver capacity the past few months of 335,000,000 in anticipation of an increased M and A environment. Pro form a for those increases, our liquidity at the end of the close $386,000,000 with nothing drawn on a revolver and $67,000,000 of cash. Net debt was $1,100,000,000 and the bank credit facility net leverage ratio was 2.6. Thank you for your time and we look forward to seeing you on the road in the coming months. Operator00:11:30And we will now begin our question and answer session. You. And your first question comes from the line of Steve Wieczynski with Stifel. Your line is open. Speaker 400:12:15Yes. Hey, guys. Good afternoon. So, Bobby, as we think about fiscal year 2025 and your expectation for low to mid single digit same store sales comps, Is there a way to help us think about maybe the cadence of how the quarters might look or I should say maybe how the quarters should play out? Just I mean just want to make sure we're thinking about how the quarters could or should come together and any headwinds or tailwinds that could impact those that low to mid single digit outlook for the year? Speaker 400:12:51Thanks. Speaker 100:12:53Yes. The only thing I would direct you to is New Year's does fall in the Q3, and January last year was extremely weak from weather. So I would expect stronger relative performance in the Q3, but generally we're expecting positive comps throughout the year. Speaker 400:13:16Okay. Thanks, Bobby. And then Tom, maybe for you to maybe a little bit of a bigger picture question, but it seems like it's pretty clear that you've been pleased with the acquisitions outside of the bowling arena, so to speak. So I think kind of going through your press release and your presentation, it's pretty clear that the M and A environment still seems very healthy at this point. Is there any way to help us think about as you kind of go down that M and A path, will it be more allocated towards traditional bowling? Speaker 400:13:50Or do you think that mix really starts to maybe shift a little bit more towards non bowling amenities? Thanks. Speaker 500:14:00Well, we'll do every attractive bowling deal we can do, whether it's a new build or the acquisition of the center. We're about to open 4 new centers in marquee locations. The pipeline for new builds is very strong after that with about a dozen deals percolating. And these are much larger on average than the acquisitions, right? So the average acquisition we do has revenue in the $3,000,000 range. Speaker 500:14:26The average center that we're opening now is $7,500,000 to $8,000,000 on average. So even though we're not doing as many, the new builds are quite large in terms of their contribution. Similarly, we're very pleased with the results out of Ranging Waves and we're opportunistic. So we'll continue to look at every opportunity within location based entertainment. And we'll apply the same very tight deal stream that we always did with Boeing. Speaker 500:14:58But yes, we're casting a wider net now, but it's really dependent upon the deals and the returns that we're going to get from the deals. Speaker 400:15:08Okay, great. Thanks guys. Appreciate it. Speaker 600:15:09Thanks, Steve. Operator00:15:13And your next question comes from the line of Matthew Boss with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Speaker 700:15:19Thanks and congrats on the nice quarter. So Tom, maybe could you speak or elaborate on the inflection in traffic and same store sales that you saw as the Q4 progressed? And really what you've seen so far in the Q1? And maybe taking a step back, just if you could walk through what you think is differentiating your experience relative to other parts of leisure in this economic backdrop? Speaker 500:15:50Yes. So I'll sort of answer that from a bigger picture perspective and then I'll hand it off to Lev to talk about some of the tactical things that we've done. But look, bowling is a very good enduring business. We've spent a lot of money to build really wonderful centers that are the best product available. They're easily accessible. Speaker 500:16:15They're in your community, and it's still a very good value. I think that the fundamentals of bowling get overlooked. Bowling is an absolutely fantastic business. We love it. We're committed to it. Speaker 500:16:30It's extremely high margin and it's very resilient. When we started to comp down last year, realized that we were comping down off of unbelievably high results that came out of COVID. So comping down off being up 40% in 3 years, it's a comp down, but it was in no way a repudiation of the strength of Boeing. Boeing is as strong as it's ever been, it's enduring. We have the best product. Speaker 500:17:02And most importantly, we have the best management team, I believe, in location based entertainment. And so you take the fundamentals of bowling, you take the product that we've built, which is best in class, and you combine that with our data driven, very results oriented culture, and you end up with wide outperformance versus our peers. So let me turn it over to Lev to talk about some of the things we did specifically over the last few months to get to this result. Speaker 300:17:34So as Tom mentioned, obviously, we do bowling incredibly well and we continue to invest in our facilities. We want to have the best bowling centers in every market that we're in. But we're not sitting on our hands and these results don't happen by accident. So you read that we launched a brand new summer season pass this summer. We didn't launch it last summer at all. Speaker 300:18:01We didn't just relaunch a former pass. We totally revamped it. We removed all the complexity from the product. We made the value proposition to the consumer very, very clear. And we sold over $8,500,000 worth of summer season passes. Speaker 300:18:19How do we know there was a clear value proposition? That pass was redeemed this summer 1,600,000 times. So our consumers got a great value for it. And as a result, our NPS score continues to climb. And I think we're starting to take market share. Speaker 300:18:38So, we mentioned we were investing in our amusements business. That continues to improve. We're adding better games. We're maintaining our centers a lot better than other competitors. You're never going to walk into one of our arcades and see half the games down or prizes not stocked. Speaker 300:18:57We're upgrading our redemption counters. We're launching locations now with a brand new redemption store called Prize Vault. Our food and beverage menus are improving. We've released all new food and beverage menus across our traditional centers, all the way up to our premier centers, the Lucky Strikes, and we're starting to see growth there. We're investing in the food and beverage team to grow sales and just offer better product there. Speaker 300:19:23So we're just upping our game across the enterprise. And I think you're starting to see that in the results. And we've continued to see those results these first two periods of the fiscal, which are both positive. And as Bobby mentioned, we expect to see that throughout the rest of the fiscal. Speaker 700:19:43Great. And then maybe just to follow-up, Bobby, any puts and takes to consider as it relates to EBITDA margin this year embedded within the FY '25 outlook? And just procurement in SG and A, any efficiencies that you've identified to support the bottom line? Speaker 100:20:03We're always going to be focused on costs, Matt, but we're not going to be one of those companies that that's how we drive earnings growth. From our perspective, we have hired procurement team, we like that. Really, at the end of the day, as the comp goes up, as the acquisitions roll through and we continue to manage sort of the costs at the centers, that's where you'll see the earnings leverage. Operator00:20:36And your next question comes from the line of Randy Konik with Jefferies. Your line is open. Speaker 800:20:43Hey, thanks a lot. I guess, Bobby, first for you. Any thoughts on how we should be thinking about the lowtomidsingle digit comp as it relates to the Q1? And I think you spoke about the near shift impacting 2Q. Does that kind of mean that the 2Q comp should kind of fall without potentially outside the annual range of comp guidance? Speaker 800:21:09Just curious there. And then also on the guidance, does the annual guide include or I guess exclude unannounced or include any M and A that you're thinking of in the guidance? Just thoughts there. Thanks. Speaker 100:21:25It does not include M and A. It does include the new build. So M and A would effectively could drive you to the higher end of sort of the guidance and above. From a cadence perspective, I'd like to stay sort of in the low single digits, mid single digits as we go through the year. This quarter, we still have some time to go, but I would stay in the low single digits to mid single digits range. Speaker 800:21:58All right, super helpful. And then I guess, Lev, you gave some good perspective on the season pass success. Have you guys looked at what the lift was from food and beverage of season pass kind of redemption people that visited on the past versus those that visited not on the past? Do you see an extra lift in food and beverage on those season pass attendees? And then Tom, you gave some good perspective on widening the net for potential M and A that could include a lot of different types of location based entertainment. Speaker 800:22:33What would be probably helpful to us on the call is to give some perspective of what you don't want to look at from an entertainment perspective? What types of businesses or areas of the entertainment economy are you not interested in or you don't think are particularly good businesses or business models? Thanks. Speaker 300:22:56So I'll just hit the first part of your question about the SMB. And I don't want it to be limited to that, because I think the attachment across our amusements business is also significant. Thanks to the past and all of these visits. You heard that our amusements performance is now outpacing the other revenue lines. And I think it's because when we created this pass, we put focus around those segments. Speaker 300:23:25So with a premium pass, you were getting 15% off food and non alcoholic beverage. You were also getting a $5 arcade reload during every visit. And as a pass holder, you were able to get one time per visit, a discounted arcade card. And so again, we wanted to drive a lot of value to pass holders. The amount of visits we got out of it was pretty obvious. Speaker 300:23:53Food and beverage sales are up. Now it could be attributed to all the new menus that we mentioned. It could also be attributed to the visitation. But overall, I think the consumer is quite clearly telling us that they're loving the past. They're loving the product that we're delivering to them when they come. Speaker 300:24:10And that's driven our decision to launch for the first time ever a fall season pass. We're being very selective during October, November when you can use the pass, right. We exclude peak times on Saturdays. So we don't want to cannibalize that traffic, but there's a lot of opportunity those months to fill in the centers and we're really excited for the opportunity to launch that new product. Speaker 500:24:38Yes. Just to complete the thought there, we did over $2,500,000 or in the neighborhood of $2,500,000 of season pass sales at Raging Waves, despite only owning that property for about 40 days between close and season opening, I would expect next year that, that number will be $3,000,000 to $4,000,000 in season pass. We're leaning really hard into the season pass because there are a lot of attributes. 1 is enormous customer satisfaction and increased customer visitation, but it always it also insulates you from weather, right? So all these businesses have some weather dependency. Speaker 500:25:19One of the advantages that we found from raging waves is that it was an excellent weather hedge to offset the effects of good weather in Chicago metro area where we have 19 Boeing centers. The first day Raging Waves was supposed to open. It actually didn't open because of rain. And what we found is in the 3 districts that comprise the centers in the Chicago area, we were up about 90% same store sales versus prior year. So excellent weather hedge, of course, it reverses, right? Speaker 500:25:59Raging Waves had several days over $350,000 which is an astonishing number for single day revenue in a regional park. While at the same time, our Boeing centers were very challenged because of the good weather. So lots of exciting stuff going on there. I think you asked the question, what wouldn't we look at? And I would say that the one thing that we're probably least excited about is things that are dining centric, right, restaurant centric. Speaker 500:26:32We don't view the restaurant space particularly attractive. Selling food and beverage that are attached to bowling or water park visit, for example, are great because those are ancillary and add on. But you're probably familiar with Pinstripes. Pinstripes is really a fine dining concept with a handful of lanes attached. I never thought that was a good business model. Speaker 500:26:59That is a great example of a business that we would never be interested in owning. Speaker 300:27:05Very helpful. Thanks guys. Operator00:27:10And your next question comes from the line of Jason Tilton with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open. Speaker 600:27:17Great. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to follow-up on a comment from Bobby in regards to the CapEx allocation for this year and particularly that last portion regarding the amount allocated for rebranding of Bolero Center. Is there anything more you can share in terms of the strategy to expand these Lucky Strike brand? Speaker 100:27:35Yes. So we're opening a flagship property in Beverly Hills in the next few months. So there'll be a lot more to come about our leaning into the brand and let's leave it at that. Speaker 600:27:55Okay, great. And then one more quick follow-up. In terms of the guidance for next year, is there anything you can talk about in terms of the same store sales, the breakout we could sort of expect in traffic and pricing? Speaker 100:28:07We're not assuming any pricing this year. Speaker 600:28:12Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:28:16And your next question comes from the line of Jeremy Hamblin with Craig Hallum. Your line is open. Speaker 900:28:23Thanks. Congrats on the strong results. And I wanted to come back to kind of the operating piece of the business. Your SG and A was a little over $40,000,000 in the quarter, I think the highest that you've had. And in terms of thinking about that, I think I caught in the prepared remarks a $2,000,000 insurance true up, which I'm assuming folds into there. Speaker 900:28:49But also just wanted to understand, given the seasonality of raging waves of how much that might have contributed into your SG and A? Speaker 100:29:00Yes. That so that $40,000,000 did not include anything for Raging Waves, but it did include $4,000,000 of write offs, related to some abandoned software development costs, $4,000,000 of deal costs, dollars 4,000,000 of D and A and $4,000,000 of share comp. So you'll see in our non GAAP recs in our investor deck that we view SG and A as a $26,000,000 cost. Next quarter, we will start we will remove D and A from our corporate SG and A costs. So we will give a lot more clarity. Speaker 100:29:39This is a sort of end of the gross profit income statement. So you'll have a lot more 4 wall going forward. Speaker 900:29:50Got it. And then I want to come back to that, the comment just made in here on pricing and in terms of what you are expecting from or what your consumer maybe is expecting as well. Obviously, you're having tremendous success here with the season passes and that's a driver to get foot traffic in the door. You are seeing a bit of price competition from other entertainment businesses, but wanted to get a sense for how you felt like you needed to operate your pricing models, particularly your weekend pricing models, and whether or not you feel like you need to dip into more of the kind of promos to drive traffic outside of just the season passes? Yes. Speaker 100:30:45So one thing to be clear, the season pass you can't use on a Saturday, right? So we don't need to discount or promote Saturday. The season pass is great when school is out. We extended the hours of our centers, so we could sell more F and B. Really the focus is going to be getting people into the center and then selling them more food, right? Speaker 100:31:13We've talked about this a lot and we've actually got proof in our first kitchen that has the upgraded menu and I'll hand that over to Lev to kind of jump into. Speaker 300:31:26So the blueprint that I think triggered this focus on food and beverage is obviously the acquisition of Lucky Shike and seeing what's possible. Their food and beverage attachment was multiples higher than ours. And when we launched Lucky Shrek Miami, the menu that we build there in terms of the innovation from the mixology, right, the cocktails that we were making there, a menu that was featuring craft pizzas and street tacos and bao buns and seasonal salads and bowls. So now we're looking at the results there and we're seeing nearly $3.40 food and beverage spend for every dollar bowling. And again, that's much, much higher than we've ever seen. Speaker 300:32:17So we've used that as an inspiration to launch revamp menus across all of our centers. We went down to the traditional centers. They got all new menus all the way up to the Lucky Strike Premier Centers and now we're going to be focused on our catering menu. So it's just given us like a sense of confidence that we're capable as an operator to run this type of food and beverage operation. And again, bowling is still king, but when you're visiting us for bowling, if we're offering you better food and beverage options, if we're offering you a better amusement option, the attachment is going to continue to grow. Speaker 300:32:55I see a world where you're going to show up to a lucky strike this year and you're not going to have any plans to go to dinner before or afterwards where you're going to find us to be a great option for that. That's what we're driving towards. And early indications are super encouraging. Speaker 100:33:12Yes. I mean, I would just, F and B revenue was up greater than Olin revenue this summer. So proof is in the pudding. You get people in the centers and we sell them more food. The upside is significant. Speaker 900:33:34Great. Thanks for the color. Best wishes. Operator00:33:40And your next question comes from the line of Eric Handler with Roth Capital. Your line is open. Speaker 900:33:47Good afternoon. Thanks for the questions. Bobby, can we talk a little bit about the gross margin? So while same center sales were up in the Q4 implying volume was up, gross profit was down. As we look into fiscal 2025, how do we think about the direction for gross margin? Speaker 100:34:14Yes. So, as we've talked a lot about this issue, our legacy reporting standards date back to the acquisition of AMF, where AMF also had a manufacturing business. We're not going to be reporting gross margins starting in the Q1. So, I really look at 4 wall. The depreciation and amortization that came in from Lucky Strike is what the drag on the gross margin. Speaker 100:34:43If you look ex D and A, gross margin was up 200 basis points. So, it's just something that is a legacy standard. You can't really change it in your K, but we are changing it in our Q going forward. Speaker 900:34:58Got it. Okay. And then you did sort of dance around how Q1 was going so far. I wonder if you could just talk about what you saw in July August? Speaker 500:35:14I don't think we've danced around it at all. We are positive on a same store basis Speaker 100:35:20through the 1st two Speaker 500:35:24periods of the fiscal year, and we're seeing expanding operating margins. Speaker 900:35:33Okay, fair enough. Thanks, Tom. Operator00:35:38And your next question comes from the line of Michael Kupinski with Noble Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 1000:35:45Thank you and thank you for taking the questions and congratulations on a solid quarter. A couple of questions. Speaker 900:35:51I kind of want to Speaker 1000:35:51go back to the same store revenue growth, obviously showed a nice acceleration from the Q3. I was wondering, can you maybe give a little bit more color on what you're seeing that is allowing it to grow so nicely in spite of the macroeconomic trends that are hurting other discretionary consumer businesses? And it seems like you're introducing higher end food items and so forth. Are you seeing any differences in consumer spending patterns? I'm just wondering if you're moving up the demographic towards higher income consumers, just kind of giving a flavor of what you're seeing that is allowing you to kind of grow so nicely. Speaker 500:36:32Well, this is Tom. If you look at where our centers are located geographically and then really how those centers perform relative to other centers. We are very over weighted from a revenue standpoint towards the higher end consumer. So our highest grossing centers are in Bellevue, Washington, our two locations in Manhattan, Tysons Corner, Virginia, now in Miami. These are all A markets. Speaker 500:37:02The average household income is probably well in excess of $150,000 maybe even $200,000 So we're over weighted to the higher end customer. Where we're particularly strong is in our Events business, where through some really good revamps of our online booking platform, we've dramatically increased online bookings for reservations very close to the time or date of the desired party. So we went from in the past, we weren't able to book parties within 3 days of a given date now. That's down to what, 3 hours, 2 hours, right? So through technological and operational refinements, we've made it much easier for the guests to buy, particularly spur of the moment. Speaker 500:37:57And that's had a very meaningful effect on our event business. We're seeing the larger event business remain strong, continue to grow. We have excellent sales leadership. Our Head of Sales and the team he has below him is really superb. No doubt, they're the best in class by far. Speaker 500:38:16And we'll do Bobby, do you recall what we did in event sales? Speaker 1100:38:21We're out total. Speaker 500:38:23Yes. What was the number? Speaker 100:38:25$275,000,000 Speaker 500:38:26$275,000,000 of event sales in the last fiscal. That number will certainly be over 300,000,000 dollars in this fiscal year. So we're seeing strong retail events. We're seeing strong corporate events. And then we're also we're really focused on offering value to the value oriented customer when they want it. Speaker 500:38:50So the season pass going from 0 last year to $8,500,000 certainly additive. Dollars 8,500,000 is a lot of money in our slowest revenue period, so it made a meaningful difference. Also things like Groupon, where the number was $17,400,000 I believe last year, on conditions very favorable to us. So we have a disproportionately large hold from Groupon. We also restrict use to off peak times. Speaker 500:39:20So we don't squeeze out any full price revenue. So it's a lot of things. It's a lot of operational nuances. And getting full price when we can and discounting when we need to. I think we're continuing to refine our model and we're just getting better and better at that. Speaker 500:39:39And then going back to something I said earlier, don't discount the quality of our product. We've spent a lot of time and effort and money to build really spectacular facilities. And if you come and visit some of these, which I would encourage you to do, in Miami, the new one at Beverly Hills, we're about to open, Tysons Corner, any of these that we built new. I mean, it's almost like Vegas in your community, that level of glitz and glamour. So you put it all together and we've got a winning model. Speaker 1000:40:11Got you. That was very helpful. I appreciate that. I do have one more question. I know that it's a relatively small acquisition, Raging Waves, but I believe that there was a relatively mild summer in Illinois. Speaker 1000:40:22I lived there during the summer, so except for the past few weeks. Can you and I'm kind of surprised that you had such strong growth. I was wondering, can you kind of give us a little flavor of what drove the growth? Was it the increase in gas, price increases? Or were you able to implement some of the revenue initiatives that you had planned? Speaker 1000:40:41Or are those still on the dock? Speaker 500:40:46Great question. It was mild. It was surprisingly cool this summer in Chicago, which definitely hurt us, which makes me feel very excited about what might happen next year. Combination of factors, we leaned really hard into season pass sales, which were up significantly year over year, drove attendance, which was up more than 10%, revenue more than 10%, maybe it will shake out in closer to 15%. It was too early to know. Speaker 500:41:16And frankly, we still have one more weekend to go. And then we got a liquor license, which we put into effect, we're able to sell beers from about the middle of the season on, which had a beneficial effect. It wasn't a game changer because again, it was only for a partial period, but definitely increased food and beverage sales. So things that didn't happen was that we didn't fold the event booking process into our existing Chicago based sales force, which is quite large and quite capable. We think there's $500,000 to $1,000,000 of upside from events, whether it's birthday parties, corporate, team building, family stuff. Speaker 500:42:03We're actually going to be building a dedicated area within the park to really facilitate those sorts of events. I think that really summarizes most of it. But we paid $49,000,000 for that park, figured it will be $7,000,000 of EBITDA this year, give or take. I think the upside in that park is in the next year or 2, it could get to $10,000,000 of EBITDA. And I think that ultimately the number could be meaningfully higher. Speaker 500:42:35I mean, if 60 acres, but 13 are undeveloped, 13 acres of expansion capacity allows you to go from sort of an in park comfortable capacity of 5000 to 6000 people on a peak date at 8000 or 9000, which makes a huge difference because as you said, when you have a mild season, there are going to be days that are disproportionately busy. And it's really important to be able to capture as much revenue as you possibly can in those days. And so, we're doing some tweaks to expand the in park capacity. But longer term, we also have the ability to meaningful increase the capacity to park on land that we already own that's adjacent to the existing facility. Speaker 1000:43:24Well done. That's all I have. Thank you. Speaker 500:43:28Thank you. Operator00:43:31And your next question comes from the line of Eric Wold with B. Riley Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 1100:43:38Thank you. Good afternoon. A couple of questions. I just want to go back, Bobby, to the same store sales question. I know that in the guidance for this year, you noted an expectation of not taking price or obviously driving more food and beverage uplift. Speaker 1100:43:55Maybe then ask a different way. Within the Signature sales guidance, how much is attendance and how much is per person spend? And then if you're not taking price, at least not planning on taking price right now, what do you say is kind of the biggest drivers in helping you offset any input or labor cost inflation that may arise? Speaker 100:44:20Yes. So there is event growth. So event comes in at least a 20% higher per cap than retail walk in and in a lot of centers, the bigger centers, it's 50% plus on a per cap basis. So as we do more events, the check size goes up. Secondarily, we've spent a lot of time talking about it. Speaker 100:44:47Our online business is killing it. It's up 30%, 40%. It continues to get better. The new website has rolled out. A lot of different technologies are being used and the website drives wallet share and drive ticket price up. Speaker 100:45:05So ultimately, it's not we don't need to go and raise the price of the bowling, right? We're just getting we're moving up sort of the value chain as we get wallet share. And then the big initiative that we talked about that we're seeing early green shoots is the F and B attachment. Speaker 1100:45:27Got it. And then does that all play into obviously those are all great in terms of driving per person spend. But if you start seeing some cost inflation, Would you offset that with price? Do you think you have other levers to play where you don't have to do that? Speaker 100:45:44We have other levers to play. I've been very focused on kind of rebuilding sort of procurement, rebuilding systems. And so when you look at every dollar, you can figure it out. Perfect. Thanks, Bobby. Operator00:46:06And your final question comes from the line of Daniel Moore with CJS Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 1200:46:13Thank you for all the color. Just I think most have been asked or answered, but just in terms of the balance sheet and free cash, obviously, you've got very healthy liquidity. Is there a range of M and A you're targeting this year? And based on the EBITDA guide, what are your expectations for working capital? And any thoughts around kind of a free cash flow range for fiscal 2025? Speaker 1200:46:36Thanks again. Speaker 100:46:38Yes, working capital is going to continue to come in as we take as we just try to turn product faster, but working capital has never been that meaningful part of our business. From an M and A perspective, the range is wide because there's a lot out there to do. We've quietly been raising our revolver capacity. We added $100,000,000 in the past few months. 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There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Abby, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Bolero 4th Quarter and Fiscal Year 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. And after the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:36Thank you. And I would now like to turn the conference over to Bobby Lavin, Chief Financial Officer. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:47Good afternoon to everyone on the call. This is Bobby Lavin, Valero's Chief Financial Officer. Welcome to our conference call to discuss Valero's Q4 2024 earnings. Today, we issued a press release announcing our financial results for the period ended June 30, 2024. A copy of the press release is available in the Investor Relations section of our website. Speaker 100:01:10Joining me today are Thomas Shannon, our Founder and Chief Executive Officer and Lev Exter, our President. I'd like to remind you that during today's conference call, we may make certain forward looking statements. Such forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and therefore, one should not place undue reliance on them. Forward looking statements are also subject to the inherent risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed. For additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from those discussed in our forward looking statements, you should refer to the cautionary statements contained in our press release as well as the risk factors contained in the company's filings with the SEC. Speaker 100:01:51Valero Corporation undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that occur after today's call. Also during today's call, the company may discuss certain non GAAP financial measures as defined by SEC Regulation G. GAAP financial measures most directly comparable to each non GAAP financial measure discussed and the reconciliation of the differences between each non GAAP financial measure and the comparable GAAP financial measure will be found on the company's website. I'll now turn the call over to Tom. Speaker 200:02:23Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us today. I am Thomas Shannon, Founder and CEO of Bolero Corporation. When I founded our company 27.5 years ago, I was driven to provide customers with a world class experience With a positive 6.9% same store comp and near 20% revenue growth this most recent quarter, our results speak for themselves and we have become a premier location based entertainment platform. In 2013, we acquired 266 centers from AMF at a bankruptcy for $270,000,000 We spent the past 10 years investing deliberately in rebranding the centers, upgrades across the kitchen, audiovisual, seating, technology and overall experience. Speaker 200:03:12These legacy bowling centers became the best in class entertainment location in their communities for children's birthday parties, corporate gatherings, leagues, date nights and group outings. At the same time, they run efficiently and operate at near 50% EBITDAR margins compared with an industry average less than half that. This playbook was repeated with our acquisition of the 85 Boeing Centers from Brunswick Corporation in 2014, 17 Centers from BOL America in 2022, the 14 Centers of Lucky Strike in 2023 and almost 50 from sole proprietors along with building around 20 new centers in superb locations during this time period. We have spent over $2,000,000,000 on acquisitions and capital expenditures over the past 27 years and in fiscal year 2025, we project $520,000,000 of 4 wall EBITDA and more than $400,000,000 of consolidated EBITDA. We target strong double digit returns on invested capital and we have the expertise to continue achieving that. Speaker 200:04:20We continue to drive forward with the majority of our focus on deploying capital into Bowling through new builds, acquisitions and upgrading our centers. We are currently under construction on 4 new centers in Beverly Hills, California, Ladera Ranch, California, Northfield in Denver and Southlands also in Denver. These powerhouse locations will open between September November of this year. In May 2024, we acquired a large water park in Yorkville, Illinois named Raging Waves. We acquired this asset along with 60 acres of real estate at an attractive valuation and underwrote synergies from implementing our operating philosophies and having efficiencies at scale. Speaker 200:05:04Throughout our 1st summer, we implemented our tried and true practices of focusing on the consumer, while also executing efficient operating standards. I am happy to say that revenue was up double digits year over year and we have identified significant capital deployment opportunities at the property to deliver powerful long term growth. This experience with Raging Waves confirms that the Bolero operating philosophy can expand outside of Boeing as we look more broadly at the location based entertainment industry. We will continue to seek opportunities to deploy capital for double digit returns, while implementing best in class operating standards that drive efficiencies at scale and grow earnings well in excess of our cost of capital. We will deliver outsized returns to our investors that will continue to scale and accelerate in the coming years. Speaker 200:05:57Let me hand it over to Lev to talk about our internal initiatives and then Bobby will review the financial details. Thank you. Speaker 300:06:05Thanks, Tom. This summer, our season passes were a success driving traffic during the slower summer months. As a reminder, our weekly sales from April through November are approximately $17,000,000 compared to $25,000,000 plus starting in December through March. Incremental traffic into our locations with improved attachment helps our business during the slower months. We believe the seasonal passes improve customer satisfaction by providing value and ultimately helping them revisit our locations during the critical holiday and winter periods. Speaker 300:06:39As we discussed last quarter, we are leaning heavily into increasing food and beverage sales. This summer, we started the rollout of all new retail F and B menus and by the end of this month, all of our locations will be featuring a new menu that will be more compelling to our guests, featuring better presentation, a better offering and better portion sizes. The new menus are setting us up for success in the holidays, when we will also be introducing a fully revamped event catering menu for our top 75 locations with an innovative offering of higher quality selections, such as Mike's Hot Honey Pizza, Spicy Rigatoni, Lobster Mac and Cheese and Sweet Poppy Salad. Additionally, we have begun piloting tablets for the servers in our locations, which provide strong efficiencies from having to walk back and forth to point of sale stations, thereby improving the process for our associates and the experience of our guests. The Lucky Shrek brand has a new logo, which we will be hanging on 3 new locations opening in the next few months, 2 in Denver and 1 in Beverly Hills. Speaker 300:07:45More to come on the expansion of the Lucky Shrek brand. We will continue to optimize our offerings to improve customer satisfaction and traffic, while increasing guest spend as we look to become the preferred out of home entertainment destination of choice. This is how we will continue to outperform our peers. And now I'll pass it over to Bobby. Speaker 100:08:07Thanks, Lev. In the Q4 of 2024, we generated total revenue ex service fee of $283,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $83,400,000 compared to the last year of 235,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $64,500,000 As a reminder, Service Fee revenue is a pass through. Non contributor earnings is being phased out and normalizes year over year in fiscal year 2025. Our total growth in the quarter was 20.2% and same store comp was positive 6.9%. April, May June all saw positive same store growth. Speaker 100:08:44Adjusted EBITDA was $83,400,000 up 29% year over year as we return to positive comp and meaningful operating leverage. In the quarter, we had a $2,000,000 insurance true up and PBA continue to operate at a worse than expected loss. Food costs are headwind that we will manage through in the upcoming year. While the previously mentioned Amusement's investments have turned positive with Amusement contribution outperforming the rest of the business in the quarter. We expect to achieve operating leverage around 50% in FY 2025 as we have comped the March 2023 manager wage increases and one time COVID costs. Speaker 100:09:24We found a good balance of investing in payroll and managing costs with our same store comp payroll flat year over year in the quarter, which is better than last quarter at negative $4,000,000 Non comp centers contributed $9,000,000 of EBITDA on approximately $32,000,000 of revenue. Paging Waves, our water park in Illinois contributed $3,500,000 of revenue $2,000,000 of EBITDA in June. The week of July 4 was a slow start to the year and July 4 falling on a Thursday this year versus Tuesday the prior year and we have seen positive same store comps since mid July. In our press release today, we issued fiscal year 2025 guidance. While we are hearing concerns in the market and weakness in the consumer, we're not seeing signs of that and at this point are guiding to total growth of mid single digits to 10% in fiscal 2025. Speaker 100:10:17This includes a forecast of low to mid single digit same store sales comp. EBITDA margins will be 32% to 34%. We spent $193,000,000 in capital expenditures in FY 2024. As we shift our focus to internal initiatives, we are pairing back our capital expenditure plans for FY 2025 with a total CapEx spend expected to be $154,000,000 The breakdown includes growth CapEx of $50,000,000 newbuild CapEx of $45,000,000 maintenance of $44,000,000 and we plan to allocate $15,000,000 of CapEx to rebranding Bolero Centers to Lucky Strike. We plan to continue to balance investing in our growth and rewarding our shareholders. Speaker 100:10:59We increased our revolver capacity the past few months of 335,000,000 in anticipation of an increased M and A environment. Pro form a for those increases, our liquidity at the end of the close $386,000,000 with nothing drawn on a revolver and $67,000,000 of cash. Net debt was $1,100,000,000 and the bank credit facility net leverage ratio was 2.6. Thank you for your time and we look forward to seeing you on the road in the coming months. Operator00:11:30And we will now begin our question and answer session. You. And your first question comes from the line of Steve Wieczynski with Stifel. Your line is open. Speaker 400:12:15Yes. Hey, guys. Good afternoon. So, Bobby, as we think about fiscal year 2025 and your expectation for low to mid single digit same store sales comps, Is there a way to help us think about maybe the cadence of how the quarters might look or I should say maybe how the quarters should play out? Just I mean just want to make sure we're thinking about how the quarters could or should come together and any headwinds or tailwinds that could impact those that low to mid single digit outlook for the year? Speaker 400:12:51Thanks. Speaker 100:12:53Yes. The only thing I would direct you to is New Year's does fall in the Q3, and January last year was extremely weak from weather. So I would expect stronger relative performance in the Q3, but generally we're expecting positive comps throughout the year. Speaker 400:13:16Okay. Thanks, Bobby. And then Tom, maybe for you to maybe a little bit of a bigger picture question, but it seems like it's pretty clear that you've been pleased with the acquisitions outside of the bowling arena, so to speak. So I think kind of going through your press release and your presentation, it's pretty clear that the M and A environment still seems very healthy at this point. Is there any way to help us think about as you kind of go down that M and A path, will it be more allocated towards traditional bowling? Speaker 400:13:50Or do you think that mix really starts to maybe shift a little bit more towards non bowling amenities? Thanks. Speaker 500:14:00Well, we'll do every attractive bowling deal we can do, whether it's a new build or the acquisition of the center. We're about to open 4 new centers in marquee locations. The pipeline for new builds is very strong after that with about a dozen deals percolating. And these are much larger on average than the acquisitions, right? So the average acquisition we do has revenue in the $3,000,000 range. Speaker 500:14:26The average center that we're opening now is $7,500,000 to $8,000,000 on average. So even though we're not doing as many, the new builds are quite large in terms of their contribution. Similarly, we're very pleased with the results out of Ranging Waves and we're opportunistic. So we'll continue to look at every opportunity within location based entertainment. And we'll apply the same very tight deal stream that we always did with Boeing. Speaker 500:14:58But yes, we're casting a wider net now, but it's really dependent upon the deals and the returns that we're going to get from the deals. Speaker 400:15:08Okay, great. Thanks guys. Appreciate it. Speaker 600:15:09Thanks, Steve. Operator00:15:13And your next question comes from the line of Matthew Boss with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Speaker 700:15:19Thanks and congrats on the nice quarter. So Tom, maybe could you speak or elaborate on the inflection in traffic and same store sales that you saw as the Q4 progressed? And really what you've seen so far in the Q1? And maybe taking a step back, just if you could walk through what you think is differentiating your experience relative to other parts of leisure in this economic backdrop? Speaker 500:15:50Yes. So I'll sort of answer that from a bigger picture perspective and then I'll hand it off to Lev to talk about some of the tactical things that we've done. But look, bowling is a very good enduring business. We've spent a lot of money to build really wonderful centers that are the best product available. They're easily accessible. Speaker 500:16:15They're in your community, and it's still a very good value. I think that the fundamentals of bowling get overlooked. Bowling is an absolutely fantastic business. We love it. We're committed to it. Speaker 500:16:30It's extremely high margin and it's very resilient. When we started to comp down last year, realized that we were comping down off of unbelievably high results that came out of COVID. So comping down off being up 40% in 3 years, it's a comp down, but it was in no way a repudiation of the strength of Boeing. Boeing is as strong as it's ever been, it's enduring. We have the best product. Speaker 500:17:02And most importantly, we have the best management team, I believe, in location based entertainment. And so you take the fundamentals of bowling, you take the product that we've built, which is best in class, and you combine that with our data driven, very results oriented culture, and you end up with wide outperformance versus our peers. So let me turn it over to Lev to talk about some of the things we did specifically over the last few months to get to this result. Speaker 300:17:34So as Tom mentioned, obviously, we do bowling incredibly well and we continue to invest in our facilities. We want to have the best bowling centers in every market that we're in. But we're not sitting on our hands and these results don't happen by accident. So you read that we launched a brand new summer season pass this summer. We didn't launch it last summer at all. Speaker 300:18:01We didn't just relaunch a former pass. We totally revamped it. We removed all the complexity from the product. We made the value proposition to the consumer very, very clear. And we sold over $8,500,000 worth of summer season passes. Speaker 300:18:19How do we know there was a clear value proposition? That pass was redeemed this summer 1,600,000 times. So our consumers got a great value for it. And as a result, our NPS score continues to climb. And I think we're starting to take market share. Speaker 300:18:38So, we mentioned we were investing in our amusements business. That continues to improve. We're adding better games. We're maintaining our centers a lot better than other competitors. You're never going to walk into one of our arcades and see half the games down or prizes not stocked. Speaker 300:18:57We're upgrading our redemption counters. We're launching locations now with a brand new redemption store called Prize Vault. Our food and beverage menus are improving. We've released all new food and beverage menus across our traditional centers, all the way up to our premier centers, the Lucky Strikes, and we're starting to see growth there. We're investing in the food and beverage team to grow sales and just offer better product there. Speaker 300:19:23So we're just upping our game across the enterprise. And I think you're starting to see that in the results. And we've continued to see those results these first two periods of the fiscal, which are both positive. And as Bobby mentioned, we expect to see that throughout the rest of the fiscal. Speaker 700:19:43Great. And then maybe just to follow-up, Bobby, any puts and takes to consider as it relates to EBITDA margin this year embedded within the FY '25 outlook? And just procurement in SG and A, any efficiencies that you've identified to support the bottom line? Speaker 100:20:03We're always going to be focused on costs, Matt, but we're not going to be one of those companies that that's how we drive earnings growth. From our perspective, we have hired procurement team, we like that. Really, at the end of the day, as the comp goes up, as the acquisitions roll through and we continue to manage sort of the costs at the centers, that's where you'll see the earnings leverage. Operator00:20:36And your next question comes from the line of Randy Konik with Jefferies. Your line is open. Speaker 800:20:43Hey, thanks a lot. I guess, Bobby, first for you. Any thoughts on how we should be thinking about the lowtomidsingle digit comp as it relates to the Q1? And I think you spoke about the near shift impacting 2Q. Does that kind of mean that the 2Q comp should kind of fall without potentially outside the annual range of comp guidance? Speaker 800:21:09Just curious there. And then also on the guidance, does the annual guide include or I guess exclude unannounced or include any M and A that you're thinking of in the guidance? Just thoughts there. Thanks. Speaker 100:21:25It does not include M and A. It does include the new build. So M and A would effectively could drive you to the higher end of sort of the guidance and above. From a cadence perspective, I'd like to stay sort of in the low single digits, mid single digits as we go through the year. This quarter, we still have some time to go, but I would stay in the low single digits to mid single digits range. Speaker 800:21:58All right, super helpful. And then I guess, Lev, you gave some good perspective on the season pass success. Have you guys looked at what the lift was from food and beverage of season pass kind of redemption people that visited on the past versus those that visited not on the past? Do you see an extra lift in food and beverage on those season pass attendees? And then Tom, you gave some good perspective on widening the net for potential M and A that could include a lot of different types of location based entertainment. Speaker 800:22:33What would be probably helpful to us on the call is to give some perspective of what you don't want to look at from an entertainment perspective? What types of businesses or areas of the entertainment economy are you not interested in or you don't think are particularly good businesses or business models? Thanks. Speaker 300:22:56So I'll just hit the first part of your question about the SMB. And I don't want it to be limited to that, because I think the attachment across our amusements business is also significant. Thanks to the past and all of these visits. You heard that our amusements performance is now outpacing the other revenue lines. And I think it's because when we created this pass, we put focus around those segments. Speaker 300:23:25So with a premium pass, you were getting 15% off food and non alcoholic beverage. You were also getting a $5 arcade reload during every visit. And as a pass holder, you were able to get one time per visit, a discounted arcade card. And so again, we wanted to drive a lot of value to pass holders. The amount of visits we got out of it was pretty obvious. Speaker 300:23:53Food and beverage sales are up. Now it could be attributed to all the new menus that we mentioned. It could also be attributed to the visitation. But overall, I think the consumer is quite clearly telling us that they're loving the past. They're loving the product that we're delivering to them when they come. Speaker 300:24:10And that's driven our decision to launch for the first time ever a fall season pass. We're being very selective during October, November when you can use the pass, right. We exclude peak times on Saturdays. So we don't want to cannibalize that traffic, but there's a lot of opportunity those months to fill in the centers and we're really excited for the opportunity to launch that new product. Speaker 500:24:38Yes. Just to complete the thought there, we did over $2,500,000 or in the neighborhood of $2,500,000 of season pass sales at Raging Waves, despite only owning that property for about 40 days between close and season opening, I would expect next year that, that number will be $3,000,000 to $4,000,000 in season pass. We're leaning really hard into the season pass because there are a lot of attributes. 1 is enormous customer satisfaction and increased customer visitation, but it always it also insulates you from weather, right? So all these businesses have some weather dependency. Speaker 500:25:19One of the advantages that we found from raging waves is that it was an excellent weather hedge to offset the effects of good weather in Chicago metro area where we have 19 Boeing centers. The first day Raging Waves was supposed to open. It actually didn't open because of rain. And what we found is in the 3 districts that comprise the centers in the Chicago area, we were up about 90% same store sales versus prior year. So excellent weather hedge, of course, it reverses, right? Speaker 500:25:59Raging Waves had several days over $350,000 which is an astonishing number for single day revenue in a regional park. While at the same time, our Boeing centers were very challenged because of the good weather. So lots of exciting stuff going on there. I think you asked the question, what wouldn't we look at? And I would say that the one thing that we're probably least excited about is things that are dining centric, right, restaurant centric. Speaker 500:26:32We don't view the restaurant space particularly attractive. Selling food and beverage that are attached to bowling or water park visit, for example, are great because those are ancillary and add on. But you're probably familiar with Pinstripes. Pinstripes is really a fine dining concept with a handful of lanes attached. I never thought that was a good business model. Speaker 500:26:59That is a great example of a business that we would never be interested in owning. Speaker 300:27:05Very helpful. Thanks guys. Operator00:27:10And your next question comes from the line of Jason Tilton with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open. Speaker 600:27:17Great. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to follow-up on a comment from Bobby in regards to the CapEx allocation for this year and particularly that last portion regarding the amount allocated for rebranding of Bolero Center. Is there anything more you can share in terms of the strategy to expand these Lucky Strike brand? Speaker 100:27:35Yes. So we're opening a flagship property in Beverly Hills in the next few months. So there'll be a lot more to come about our leaning into the brand and let's leave it at that. Speaker 600:27:55Okay, great. And then one more quick follow-up. In terms of the guidance for next year, is there anything you can talk about in terms of the same store sales, the breakout we could sort of expect in traffic and pricing? Speaker 100:28:07We're not assuming any pricing this year. Speaker 600:28:12Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:28:16And your next question comes from the line of Jeremy Hamblin with Craig Hallum. Your line is open. Speaker 900:28:23Thanks. Congrats on the strong results. And I wanted to come back to kind of the operating piece of the business. Your SG and A was a little over $40,000,000 in the quarter, I think the highest that you've had. And in terms of thinking about that, I think I caught in the prepared remarks a $2,000,000 insurance true up, which I'm assuming folds into there. Speaker 900:28:49But also just wanted to understand, given the seasonality of raging waves of how much that might have contributed into your SG and A? Speaker 100:29:00Yes. That so that $40,000,000 did not include anything for Raging Waves, but it did include $4,000,000 of write offs, related to some abandoned software development costs, $4,000,000 of deal costs, dollars 4,000,000 of D and A and $4,000,000 of share comp. So you'll see in our non GAAP recs in our investor deck that we view SG and A as a $26,000,000 cost. Next quarter, we will start we will remove D and A from our corporate SG and A costs. So we will give a lot more clarity. Speaker 100:29:39This is a sort of end of the gross profit income statement. So you'll have a lot more 4 wall going forward. Speaker 900:29:50Got it. And then I want to come back to that, the comment just made in here on pricing and in terms of what you are expecting from or what your consumer maybe is expecting as well. Obviously, you're having tremendous success here with the season passes and that's a driver to get foot traffic in the door. You are seeing a bit of price competition from other entertainment businesses, but wanted to get a sense for how you felt like you needed to operate your pricing models, particularly your weekend pricing models, and whether or not you feel like you need to dip into more of the kind of promos to drive traffic outside of just the season passes? Yes. Speaker 100:30:45So one thing to be clear, the season pass you can't use on a Saturday, right? So we don't need to discount or promote Saturday. The season pass is great when school is out. We extended the hours of our centers, so we could sell more F and B. Really the focus is going to be getting people into the center and then selling them more food, right? Speaker 100:31:13We've talked about this a lot and we've actually got proof in our first kitchen that has the upgraded menu and I'll hand that over to Lev to kind of jump into. Speaker 300:31:26So the blueprint that I think triggered this focus on food and beverage is obviously the acquisition of Lucky Shike and seeing what's possible. Their food and beverage attachment was multiples higher than ours. And when we launched Lucky Shrek Miami, the menu that we build there in terms of the innovation from the mixology, right, the cocktails that we were making there, a menu that was featuring craft pizzas and street tacos and bao buns and seasonal salads and bowls. So now we're looking at the results there and we're seeing nearly $3.40 food and beverage spend for every dollar bowling. And again, that's much, much higher than we've ever seen. Speaker 300:32:17So we've used that as an inspiration to launch revamp menus across all of our centers. We went down to the traditional centers. They got all new menus all the way up to the Lucky Strike Premier Centers and now we're going to be focused on our catering menu. So it's just given us like a sense of confidence that we're capable as an operator to run this type of food and beverage operation. And again, bowling is still king, but when you're visiting us for bowling, if we're offering you better food and beverage options, if we're offering you a better amusement option, the attachment is going to continue to grow. Speaker 300:32:55I see a world where you're going to show up to a lucky strike this year and you're not going to have any plans to go to dinner before or afterwards where you're going to find us to be a great option for that. That's what we're driving towards. And early indications are super encouraging. Speaker 100:33:12Yes. I mean, I would just, F and B revenue was up greater than Olin revenue this summer. So proof is in the pudding. You get people in the centers and we sell them more food. The upside is significant. Speaker 900:33:34Great. Thanks for the color. Best wishes. Operator00:33:40And your next question comes from the line of Eric Handler with Roth Capital. Your line is open. Speaker 900:33:47Good afternoon. Thanks for the questions. Bobby, can we talk a little bit about the gross margin? So while same center sales were up in the Q4 implying volume was up, gross profit was down. As we look into fiscal 2025, how do we think about the direction for gross margin? Speaker 100:34:14Yes. So, as we've talked a lot about this issue, our legacy reporting standards date back to the acquisition of AMF, where AMF also had a manufacturing business. We're not going to be reporting gross margins starting in the Q1. So, I really look at 4 wall. The depreciation and amortization that came in from Lucky Strike is what the drag on the gross margin. Speaker 100:34:43If you look ex D and A, gross margin was up 200 basis points. So, it's just something that is a legacy standard. You can't really change it in your K, but we are changing it in our Q going forward. Speaker 900:34:58Got it. Okay. And then you did sort of dance around how Q1 was going so far. I wonder if you could just talk about what you saw in July August? Speaker 500:35:14I don't think we've danced around it at all. We are positive on a same store basis Speaker 100:35:20through the 1st two Speaker 500:35:24periods of the fiscal year, and we're seeing expanding operating margins. Speaker 900:35:33Okay, fair enough. Thanks, Tom. Operator00:35:38And your next question comes from the line of Michael Kupinski with Noble Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 1000:35:45Thank you and thank you for taking the questions and congratulations on a solid quarter. A couple of questions. Speaker 900:35:51I kind of want to Speaker 1000:35:51go back to the same store revenue growth, obviously showed a nice acceleration from the Q3. I was wondering, can you maybe give a little bit more color on what you're seeing that is allowing it to grow so nicely in spite of the macroeconomic trends that are hurting other discretionary consumer businesses? And it seems like you're introducing higher end food items and so forth. Are you seeing any differences in consumer spending patterns? I'm just wondering if you're moving up the demographic towards higher income consumers, just kind of giving a flavor of what you're seeing that is allowing you to kind of grow so nicely. Speaker 500:36:32Well, this is Tom. If you look at where our centers are located geographically and then really how those centers perform relative to other centers. We are very over weighted from a revenue standpoint towards the higher end consumer. So our highest grossing centers are in Bellevue, Washington, our two locations in Manhattan, Tysons Corner, Virginia, now in Miami. These are all A markets. Speaker 500:37:02The average household income is probably well in excess of $150,000 maybe even $200,000 So we're over weighted to the higher end customer. Where we're particularly strong is in our Events business, where through some really good revamps of our online booking platform, we've dramatically increased online bookings for reservations very close to the time or date of the desired party. So we went from in the past, we weren't able to book parties within 3 days of a given date now. That's down to what, 3 hours, 2 hours, right? So through technological and operational refinements, we've made it much easier for the guests to buy, particularly spur of the moment. Speaker 500:37:57And that's had a very meaningful effect on our event business. We're seeing the larger event business remain strong, continue to grow. We have excellent sales leadership. Our Head of Sales and the team he has below him is really superb. No doubt, they're the best in class by far. Speaker 500:38:16And we'll do Bobby, do you recall what we did in event sales? Speaker 1100:38:21We're out total. Speaker 500:38:23Yes. What was the number? Speaker 100:38:25$275,000,000 Speaker 500:38:26$275,000,000 of event sales in the last fiscal. That number will certainly be over 300,000,000 dollars in this fiscal year. So we're seeing strong retail events. We're seeing strong corporate events. And then we're also we're really focused on offering value to the value oriented customer when they want it. Speaker 500:38:50So the season pass going from 0 last year to $8,500,000 certainly additive. Dollars 8,500,000 is a lot of money in our slowest revenue period, so it made a meaningful difference. Also things like Groupon, where the number was $17,400,000 I believe last year, on conditions very favorable to us. So we have a disproportionately large hold from Groupon. We also restrict use to off peak times. Speaker 500:39:20So we don't squeeze out any full price revenue. So it's a lot of things. It's a lot of operational nuances. And getting full price when we can and discounting when we need to. I think we're continuing to refine our model and we're just getting better and better at that. Speaker 500:39:39And then going back to something I said earlier, don't discount the quality of our product. We've spent a lot of time and effort and money to build really spectacular facilities. And if you come and visit some of these, which I would encourage you to do, in Miami, the new one at Beverly Hills, we're about to open, Tysons Corner, any of these that we built new. I mean, it's almost like Vegas in your community, that level of glitz and glamour. So you put it all together and we've got a winning model. Speaker 1000:40:11Got you. That was very helpful. I appreciate that. I do have one more question. I know that it's a relatively small acquisition, Raging Waves, but I believe that there was a relatively mild summer in Illinois. Speaker 1000:40:22I lived there during the summer, so except for the past few weeks. Can you and I'm kind of surprised that you had such strong growth. I was wondering, can you kind of give us a little flavor of what drove the growth? Was it the increase in gas, price increases? Or were you able to implement some of the revenue initiatives that you had planned? Speaker 1000:40:41Or are those still on the dock? Speaker 500:40:46Great question. It was mild. It was surprisingly cool this summer in Chicago, which definitely hurt us, which makes me feel very excited about what might happen next year. Combination of factors, we leaned really hard into season pass sales, which were up significantly year over year, drove attendance, which was up more than 10%, revenue more than 10%, maybe it will shake out in closer to 15%. It was too early to know. Speaker 500:41:16And frankly, we still have one more weekend to go. And then we got a liquor license, which we put into effect, we're able to sell beers from about the middle of the season on, which had a beneficial effect. It wasn't a game changer because again, it was only for a partial period, but definitely increased food and beverage sales. So things that didn't happen was that we didn't fold the event booking process into our existing Chicago based sales force, which is quite large and quite capable. We think there's $500,000 to $1,000,000 of upside from events, whether it's birthday parties, corporate, team building, family stuff. Speaker 500:42:03We're actually going to be building a dedicated area within the park to really facilitate those sorts of events. I think that really summarizes most of it. But we paid $49,000,000 for that park, figured it will be $7,000,000 of EBITDA this year, give or take. I think the upside in that park is in the next year or 2, it could get to $10,000,000 of EBITDA. And I think that ultimately the number could be meaningfully higher. Speaker 500:42:35I mean, if 60 acres, but 13 are undeveloped, 13 acres of expansion capacity allows you to go from sort of an in park comfortable capacity of 5000 to 6000 people on a peak date at 8000 or 9000, which makes a huge difference because as you said, when you have a mild season, there are going to be days that are disproportionately busy. And it's really important to be able to capture as much revenue as you possibly can in those days. And so, we're doing some tweaks to expand the in park capacity. But longer term, we also have the ability to meaningful increase the capacity to park on land that we already own that's adjacent to the existing facility. Speaker 1000:43:24Well done. That's all I have. Thank you. Speaker 500:43:28Thank you. Operator00:43:31And your next question comes from the line of Eric Wold with B. Riley Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 1100:43:38Thank you. Good afternoon. A couple of questions. I just want to go back, Bobby, to the same store sales question. I know that in the guidance for this year, you noted an expectation of not taking price or obviously driving more food and beverage uplift. Speaker 1100:43:55Maybe then ask a different way. Within the Signature sales guidance, how much is attendance and how much is per person spend? And then if you're not taking price, at least not planning on taking price right now, what do you say is kind of the biggest drivers in helping you offset any input or labor cost inflation that may arise? Speaker 100:44:20Yes. So there is event growth. So event comes in at least a 20% higher per cap than retail walk in and in a lot of centers, the bigger centers, it's 50% plus on a per cap basis. So as we do more events, the check size goes up. Secondarily, we've spent a lot of time talking about it. Speaker 100:44:47Our online business is killing it. It's up 30%, 40%. It continues to get better. The new website has rolled out. A lot of different technologies are being used and the website drives wallet share and drive ticket price up. Speaker 100:45:05So ultimately, it's not we don't need to go and raise the price of the bowling, right? We're just getting we're moving up sort of the value chain as we get wallet share. And then the big initiative that we talked about that we're seeing early green shoots is the F and B attachment. Speaker 1100:45:27Got it. And then does that all play into obviously those are all great in terms of driving per person spend. But if you start seeing some cost inflation, Would you offset that with price? Do you think you have other levers to play where you don't have to do that? Speaker 100:45:44We have other levers to play. I've been very focused on kind of rebuilding sort of procurement, rebuilding systems. And so when you look at every dollar, you can figure it out. Perfect. Thanks, Bobby. Operator00:46:06And your final question comes from the line of Daniel Moore with CJS Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 1200:46:13Thank you for all the color. Just I think most have been asked or answered, but just in terms of the balance sheet and free cash, obviously, you've got very healthy liquidity. Is there a range of M and A you're targeting this year? And based on the EBITDA guide, what are your expectations for working capital? And any thoughts around kind of a free cash flow range for fiscal 2025? Speaker 1200:46:36Thanks again. Speaker 100:46:38Yes, working capital is going to continue to come in as we take as we just try to turn product faster, but working capital has never been that meaningful part of our business. From an M and A perspective, the range is wide because there's a lot out there to do. We've quietly been raising our revolver capacity. We added $100,000,000 in the past few months. So we're expecting that there's an opportunity out there, but the M and A environment is very active. Speaker 100:47:19And so we'll announce deals as we get them done. It will be that kind of trajectory. So I know that's difficult for you guys to model, but I think it's better for us to surprise to the upside if we get more M and A done.Read morePowered by