NASDAQ:WASH Washington Trust Bancorp Q4 2024 Earnings Report $27.83 -0.03 (-0.11%) Closing price 05/30/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$27.67 -0.16 (-0.57%) As of 05/30/2025 04:21 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Washington Trust Bancorp EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.59Consensus EPS $0.57Beat/MissBeat by +$0.02One Year Ago EPSN/AWashington Trust Bancorp Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$31.74 millionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AWashington Trust Bancorp Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date1/29/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, January 30, 2025Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsWashington Trust Bancorp's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Monday, July 21, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Tuesday, July 22, 2025 at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Washington Trust Bancorp Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJanuary 30, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning and welcome to Washington Trust Bancorp, Inc. Conference Call. My name is Lydia and I'll be your operator today. Operator00:00:18As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the call over to Sharon Walsh, Senior Vice President, Marketing Strategy and Planning. Please go ahead. Sharon WalshSenior VP, Director of Marketing Strategy & Planning at Washington Trust Bancorp00:00:29Thank you, Lydia. Good morning and welcome to Washington Trust Bancorp, Inc. Conference call for the Q4 of 2024. Joining us this morning are members of the Washington Trust executive team Ned Handy, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Mary Nunes, President and Chief Operating Officer Ron Osberg, Senior Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer and Bill Ray, Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Risk Officer. Please note that today's presentation may contain forward looking statements and our actual results could differ materially from what is discussed on today's call. Sharon WalshSenior VP, Director of Marketing Strategy & Planning at Washington Trust Bancorp00:01:02Our complete Safe Harbor statement is contained in our earnings release, which was issued yesterday as well as other documents that are filed with the SEC. All of these materials and other public filings are available on our Investor Relations website at ir.washtrust.com. Washington Trust trades on NASDAQ under the symbol WASH. I'm now pleased to introduce today's host, Washington Trust Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Ned Handy. Ned? Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:01:31Thank you, Sharon. Good morning and thank you for joining our Q4 conference call. We respect and appreciate your time and interest in Washington Trust. I'll briefly comment on the quarter and then Ron will provide more detail on the financial results. After our prepared remarks, Mary and Bill will join us for the Q and A session. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:01:50We previously announced the December capital raise of $70,500,000 and subsequent balance sheet repositioning, which entailed selling lower yielding securities and loans and reinvesting into higher yielding securities and paying down expensive wholesale funding. The security sale and reinvestment occurred in the Q4 and the loan sale pricing was locked in the Q4, but the actual sale of the loans occurred last week. The reduction of maturing wholesale funding will occur over the next few months and Ron will provide some detail beyond that. Though this initiative resulted in a loss recognized in the Q4, it will favorably impact future revenues and provide additional capacity for growth and investment. These actions combined with positive organic momentum preceding them have further strengthened our financial foundation allowing us to focus on providing enhanced value for shareholders as well as the customers and communities we serve. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:02:47I'd like to take this opportunity to thank our shareholders who showed tremendous support for this strategy. Again, Ron will provide details on the impact. I'm also very pleased to mention that in the Q4, we hired a new Head of Retail Banking. Michelle Kyle, a Rhode Island native joined us from Digital Federal Credit Union, where she led retail branch services, business development and customer experience. We very much look forward to Michelle's impact on our deposit growth strategies. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:03:16I'll now turn the call over to Ron for some more detail on the quarter. We'll then be glad to address any questions. Ron? Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:03:25Thanks, Ned, and good morning, everyone. As Ned said, we reported a net loss of $60,800,000 or $3.46 per share in the 4th quarter. Excluding the balance sheet repositioning asset losses, adjusted net income amounted to $10,400,000 or $0.59 per share. Net interest income was $32,900,000 up by $674,000 or 2%. The margin was 195,000 up by 10 basis points. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:03:51This improvement reflected the net effect of lower rates and the partial impact of the balance sheet repositioning on the margin. Adjusted non interest income amounted to $16,000,000 and was modestly down by $229,000 or 1%. Wealth Management revenues were $10,000,000 up by $60,000 or 1%. And spot AUA balances totaled $7,100,000,000 at the end of the year. Mortgage banking revenues totaled $2,800,000 down by $18,000 or 1%. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:04:25Turning to non interest expenses. These totaled $34,300,000 and were down by $212,000 or 1%. Salaries and benefits expense was up by $525,000 or 2% reflecting adjustments to performance based compensation accruals. Also advertising and promotion expense decreased by $297,000 in the 4th quarter due to timing. Adjusted income tax expense amounted to $3,200,000 and the adjusted effective tax rate was $23,700,000 for the Q4. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:04:58We expect the full year 2025 effective tax rate to be about 22.5 Turning to the balance sheet, total loans were down by $377,000,000 or 7%. Residential loans decreased by $403,000,000 or 16% largely due to the reclassification of $345,000,000 to loans held for sale. Total commercial loans increased by $29,000,000 or 1%. End market deposits were up $26,000,000 or 1% and brokered deposits were down $82,000,000 and FHLB borrowings were down by 175,000,000 dollars Our loan to deposits ratio decreased from 106.2 to 105.5. Our asset and credit quality metrics remain solid. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:05:45Non accruing loans were 45 basis points at the end of the year compared to 56 basis points at September 30 and past due loans were 23 basis points compared to 37 at September 30. The allowance totaled $42,000,000 or 82 percent of total loans and provided NPL coverage of 180%. The 4th quarter provision for credit losses was $1,000,000 We had net charge offs of $1,900,000 in the 4th quarter $2,000,000 for the full year of 2024. This time, I'll turn the call back to Ned. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:06:21Thanks Ron. And now Lydia, we can take questions. Operator00:06:26Thank We have a question from Laurie Hunsicker with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:06:56Yes, hi. Thanks. Good morning, Ned and Mary and Ron and Bill and Karen. So hoping, Ron, that you can start with margin and just really help us think about all of the moving parts, especially because some of this obviously isn't even reflected now until the end of January. So maybe if you could help us quantify it in terms of basis points, the impact on different items, if you have a December spot margin and then also forward looking the impact in terms of the pay down of wholesale funding balances and how you're thinking about that, especially in light of your loan to deposit ratio, how do you think about CDs, etcetera. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:07:40So anything you can help us think about on margin? And then also, I just wanted to clarify your swap expiration was supposed to be a 12 basis point pickup starting at the beginning of May. Just wanted to check on that too. So anything you can help us with in margin would be great. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:07:56Yes. So Laurie, just on that swap piece, that's May of 2026. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:08:02And is that May 1? Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:08:05Yes. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:08:07Okay. And that's still 12 basis points? Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:08:12Yes. What we published hasn't changed. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:08:16Perfect. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:08:17So, yes, so the balance sheet repositioning will be very impactful to 2025. We're projecting a NIM of between $230,000,000 $235,000,000 for the Q1. That will increase over the course of the year to about $245,000,000 to $250,000,000 in the Q4. Over that span, we expect our average earning assets to be in the $6,300,000,000 to $6,400,000,000 range after the settlement of the loans which we sold on Friday. So that will bring our earning asset balances down somewhat. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:08:50And the expectation is that we will be paying down primarily FHLB funding over the next couple of months. The spot margin for December was 2.07. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:09:06Okay. And then just how are you thinking about deposits and CDs and repricing there? Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:09:14Yes. So the Fed's cut four times and we will continue to see included this is included in the numbers I just gave you, but we still have some short term maturing wholesale funding brokered CDs over the next few months that will reprice on that. And also our regular retail CDs will be repricing down. I know you've asked about brokered CDs in the past. We will use those when it makes sense to. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:09:42Right now brokered CDs are somewhat more expensive than FHLB and when that reverses, then we'll rely a little more heavily on that. But the trend on wholesale funding is to be paying it down anyway. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:09:55Okay. Okay. And then on capital, I just want to clarify the 2,199,000 dollars share issuance in December, does that include the issue? Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:07Say that again, Lauren? Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:10:08Is the issue already in the numbers? Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:12The green I'm sorry, Laura. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:10:14Definitely include the issue. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:15Yes. The additional green shoe. That would include the ship size. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:20Yes. Yes. I'm sorry, I couldn't hear Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:22you clearly. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:22But yes. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:10:23Perfect. Okay. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:10:24That's all the questions as of December 31. Okay. And then, Ned, just a question for you on dividend. Obviously, it's looking substantially more safe. Can you just comment on that and target payout ratio, how you're thinking about that? Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:40Yes. We're not it's Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:41an important part of this trend. Go ahead, Rob. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:46Yes. So we're not planning on making any changes to the dividend lowering. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:10:53Perfect. Okay. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:54But the coverage ratio is Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:57obviously better. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:11:00Right. Much better. Okay. Just wanted to hear it from you. Okay. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:11:05Credit, can you just help us think about a couple of things, I guess with respect to office, the $10,500,000 resolution, that's awesome. You stated that was coming, it came. How much in charge offs was that this quarter? And any color you can give us there? And then I guess more broadly, the $3,300,000 that's new to non accruals, is that a Class B office? Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:11:30I'm just looking at that line item above your chart, but just wanted a little color on those two things. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:11:41Bill, do you want to take that? William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:11:42This is Bill. William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:11:43Yes, I can jump William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:11:44in. The charge off was about the nonaccrual resolution was about half of the total. And so the other one you talked about that came in is actually under agreement to be resolved probably, I would guess late this quarter but more likely next quarter. So again, with all of these, we're paying a lot of attention. We're looking for expeditious resolution. William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:12:10So we're hoping to continue to keep these numbers at these low levels. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:12:18Okay, great. And the $3,300,000 that was in office. Is that correct? William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:12:24Yes. That's the one that's under agreement. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:12:28That's under agreement. Okay. Okay, great. And then just 2 more office questions. The, what is your overall office reserve now? Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:12:36And then also, do you have any kind of a refresh on the leasing that $20,500,000 lab, which had gone sort of from 0 to I had in my notes 52% as of last quarter. Do you have a refresh on that number? Thanks. William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:12:53Sure. The first one, we don't carry a specific reserve against office. We don't manage it as a segment because it doesn't work under CECL. We don't have enough data to drive it. But our CRE segment, which includes office, I think has I'm just guessing here about 125 basis points of reserve. William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:13:15And then we use the way we manage office within that is we use call factors to reflect the fact that appraisals and other things are definitely under stress. So that's again no specific office reserve, but our CRE segment is very adequately reserved. And then your other question was on the large lab space, which is now more than 50% occupied. Leasing activity has been slow this quarter. They're starting to see it pick up already for 2025 though. William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:13:51So we feel there, especially with the significant investment. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:13:59Great. Thank you. Operator00:14:02Thank you. We have a question from Damon Jamon with KBW. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:14:27Hey, good morning, everyone. Hope you're all doing well. Sorry, I thought I had queued in, and I was wondering why I wasn't being called on, but apparently I didn't queue in. So in any event, thanks for all the color on the outlook for the margin and the expected impact from the restructuring. That was very helpful. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:14:48Just kind of wondering what your thoughts are now that that's behind you as far as like loan growth and opportunities, now that you've kind of freed up some capacity on the balance sheet and some restrain on the margin, do you feel like loan growth kind of going forward could kind of go back to what we've seen in years past? Or you think it's still more of a kind of a conservative approach for a few more quarters? Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:15:15Yes. It's a great question, Damon. So we're building back the pipeline. In 2024, we purposely kind of slowed down the loan growth side of things. And so the pipeline is coming back. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:15:26We're seeing opportunity. We're kind of thinking about lowish 3% -ish loan growth over the period on the commercial side. We'd like to lean that towards C and I. The pipeline right now is lean towards C and I. We've got the CRE concentration limit that we're aware of. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:15:48We're not there's no issue there, but it's over 350 and so we need to be careful on that front. We are still out looking at real estate deals. We're seeing opportunity. The pricing is decent. The structure is good. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:16:06So we're calibrating the growth there, wanting to make loans, wanting to again focus on C and I because it tends to bring more deposits with it. Our priority is on the funding side of things and making sure we fund loan growth appropriately. It's an interesting interest rate environment to figure out. We're seeing more fixed rate requests as people are wondering about the longer term picture of rates. And so it's an interesting environment, but there is opportunity and we think there might be upside opportunity to our current sight line, but the current sight line is kind of 3% on the commercial side. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:16:51Resi, I should let Mary talk about, but resi, we've been sort of running off the existing portfolio and then tilting the resi operation towards sales. So we're still thinking kind of 75% of the volume will be sold, so that side of the balance sheet won't grow. And Ron, I think we're actually we're thinking that we'd have mild reduction in the portfolio over the next couple of quarters, correct? Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:17:21Yes, that's right. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:17:22In the resi portfolio. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:17:25Got it. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:17:27Hope that helps, David. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:17:29It does. It does. Yes. Okay, perfect. And then with regards to expenses, Ron, I mean, how are you kind of thinking about it from like the year over year perspective of growth? Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:17:44If you're at $137,000,000 for $24,000,000 I mean, is it reasonable for kind of 2% to 4% type of growth over the next year? Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:17:54Yes. So, yes, with regard to guidance for the rest of the year, let me bring revenue in there as well. So, so for wealth, as you know that largely tracks what the market does. We're assuming about a 5% increase in wealth revenue year over year. Mortgage largely dependent on market conditions and what origination volume could be. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:18:17But we are projecting call it a 5% to 10% revenue growth on the mortgage line. We do need to reset expectations around salaries and benefits run rate. So in addition to annual merit raises which you kind of just referred to, we are also restoring our incentive comp to normal after 2 years of substantially reduced levels. And we're also making some people investments that we've been holding off on. We've reduced our headcount by about 40 people over the past 2 years. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:18:48So we're going to do some reinvestment back there. Mortgage commissions will also track the mortgage gains and those are seasonally concentrated in the second and third quarter. So all in, we're looking at an increase to our run rate on salaries and benefits and projecting call it $23,500,000 per quarter. All of our other expenses are estimated about $13,500,000 per quarter. So increased NIM, increased fee revenue, but we are also seeing an expense increase. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:19:22Got it. Okay. So add those 2, it's like, yes, 37. Okay. All right. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:19:27So that makes sense. So I mean, yes, you're getting the relief on the top side. So you can reinvest it into the rest of the franchise after taking a more conservative approach the last couple of years. Okay, makes sense. I guess that probably covers it, because I was going to ask about the fee income as well and you kind of trumped me on that and gave me some insight on that. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:19:52So, yes, I think that's it. Everything else has been asked and answered. So thank you very much for the color and insight today. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:19:59Great. Thank you, Damon. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:20:00Thanks, Damon. Appreciate it. Operator00:20:05Thank you. We have no further questions in the queue. So I'll turn the call back over to Ned Handy for any closing comments. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:20:13Thanks, Lydia. And thank you for joining us today. I hope we've presented a clear picture of our current state, the positive impact of the Q4 capital raise and our plans going forward. I'd also like to note that on August 22, 2025, Washington Trust will celebrate our 200 and 25th year. And as we mark this occasion, we're focused on continuing our legacy of making a meaningful difference in the places we live and work and enhancing value for our shareholders, our customers, employees and the communities we serve. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:20:47So, we appreciate your time very much today and look forward to speaking with you again soon. Have a great day everybody. Operator00:20:56This concludes our call. Thank you very much for joining. You may now disconnect your line.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesSharon WalshSenior VP, Director of Marketing Strategy & PlanningEdward HandyChairman & CEORonald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & TreasurerWilliam WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk OfficerAnalystsLaurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research PartnersDamon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)Powered by Key Takeaways Completed a $70.5 million capital raise in December and executed a balance sheet repositioning—selling lower-yielding securities and loans, reinvesting in higher-yielding assets, and reducing expensive wholesale funding—to incur a Q4 loss but enhance future revenue and growth capacity. Reported a Q4 net loss of $60.8 million (-$3.46/share) driven by repositioning charges, while adjusted net income was $10.4 million ($0.59/share); net interest income rose 2% to $32.9 million with a 10 bp margin increase to 1.95%. Adjusted the balance sheet with total loans down 7% (residential ‑16%, commercial +1%), deposits up 1%, and a loans/deposits ratio of 105.5%; credit quality remains strong with nonaccrual loans at 45 bp (down from 56 bp) and allowance covering 180% of NPLs. Provided a 2025 margin outlook with December spot NIM at 2.07% and targets of 2.30–2.35%% in Q1 rising to 2.45–2.50% by Q4, as the bank pays down wholesale funding and benefits from higher-yield reinvestments. Appointed Michelle Kyle, a Rhode Island native and former Digital Federal Credit Union leader, as Head of Retail Banking to drive deposit growth and enhance customer experience across the franchise. AI Generated. 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The company operates in two segments, Commercial Banking and Wealth Management Services. The Commercial Banking segment offers deposit accounts, including interest-bearing and noninterest-bearing demand deposits, NOW and savings accounts, money market and retirement deposit accounts, and time deposits; various commercial and retail lending products, such as commercial real estate loans, including commercial mortgages, and construction and development loans; commercial and industrial loans comprising working capital, equipment financing, and financing for other business-related purposes; residential real estate loans that consist of mortgage and homeowner construction loans; and consumer loans comprising home equity loans and lines of credit, personal installment loans, and loans to individuals secured by general aviation aircraft. This segment also provides debit cards; automated teller machines (ATMs); telephone banking, internet banking, mobile banking, remote deposit capture, and other cash management services; and investment portfolio and wholesale funding services. The Wealth Management Services segment offers investment management; financial planning; personal trust and estate services, such as trustee, personal representative, custodian, and guardian; and settlement of decedents' estates, as well as institutional trust services comprising custody and fiduciary services for personal and institutional clients. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning and welcome to Washington Trust Bancorp, Inc. Conference Call. My name is Lydia and I'll be your operator today. Operator00:00:18As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the call over to Sharon Walsh, Senior Vice President, Marketing Strategy and Planning. Please go ahead. Sharon WalshSenior VP, Director of Marketing Strategy & Planning at Washington Trust Bancorp00:00:29Thank you, Lydia. Good morning and welcome to Washington Trust Bancorp, Inc. Conference call for the Q4 of 2024. Joining us this morning are members of the Washington Trust executive team Ned Handy, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Mary Nunes, President and Chief Operating Officer Ron Osberg, Senior Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer and Bill Ray, Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Risk Officer. Please note that today's presentation may contain forward looking statements and our actual results could differ materially from what is discussed on today's call. Sharon WalshSenior VP, Director of Marketing Strategy & Planning at Washington Trust Bancorp00:01:02Our complete Safe Harbor statement is contained in our earnings release, which was issued yesterday as well as other documents that are filed with the SEC. All of these materials and other public filings are available on our Investor Relations website at ir.washtrust.com. Washington Trust trades on NASDAQ under the symbol WASH. I'm now pleased to introduce today's host, Washington Trust Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Ned Handy. Ned? Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:01:31Thank you, Sharon. Good morning and thank you for joining our Q4 conference call. We respect and appreciate your time and interest in Washington Trust. I'll briefly comment on the quarter and then Ron will provide more detail on the financial results. After our prepared remarks, Mary and Bill will join us for the Q and A session. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:01:50We previously announced the December capital raise of $70,500,000 and subsequent balance sheet repositioning, which entailed selling lower yielding securities and loans and reinvesting into higher yielding securities and paying down expensive wholesale funding. The security sale and reinvestment occurred in the Q4 and the loan sale pricing was locked in the Q4, but the actual sale of the loans occurred last week. The reduction of maturing wholesale funding will occur over the next few months and Ron will provide some detail beyond that. Though this initiative resulted in a loss recognized in the Q4, it will favorably impact future revenues and provide additional capacity for growth and investment. These actions combined with positive organic momentum preceding them have further strengthened our financial foundation allowing us to focus on providing enhanced value for shareholders as well as the customers and communities we serve. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:02:47I'd like to take this opportunity to thank our shareholders who showed tremendous support for this strategy. Again, Ron will provide details on the impact. I'm also very pleased to mention that in the Q4, we hired a new Head of Retail Banking. Michelle Kyle, a Rhode Island native joined us from Digital Federal Credit Union, where she led retail branch services, business development and customer experience. We very much look forward to Michelle's impact on our deposit growth strategies. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:03:16I'll now turn the call over to Ron for some more detail on the quarter. We'll then be glad to address any questions. Ron? Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:03:25Thanks, Ned, and good morning, everyone. As Ned said, we reported a net loss of $60,800,000 or $3.46 per share in the 4th quarter. Excluding the balance sheet repositioning asset losses, adjusted net income amounted to $10,400,000 or $0.59 per share. Net interest income was $32,900,000 up by $674,000 or 2%. The margin was 195,000 up by 10 basis points. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:03:51This improvement reflected the net effect of lower rates and the partial impact of the balance sheet repositioning on the margin. Adjusted non interest income amounted to $16,000,000 and was modestly down by $229,000 or 1%. Wealth Management revenues were $10,000,000 up by $60,000 or 1%. And spot AUA balances totaled $7,100,000,000 at the end of the year. Mortgage banking revenues totaled $2,800,000 down by $18,000 or 1%. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:04:25Turning to non interest expenses. These totaled $34,300,000 and were down by $212,000 or 1%. Salaries and benefits expense was up by $525,000 or 2% reflecting adjustments to performance based compensation accruals. Also advertising and promotion expense decreased by $297,000 in the 4th quarter due to timing. Adjusted income tax expense amounted to $3,200,000 and the adjusted effective tax rate was $23,700,000 for the Q4. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:04:58We expect the full year 2025 effective tax rate to be about 22.5 Turning to the balance sheet, total loans were down by $377,000,000 or 7%. Residential loans decreased by $403,000,000 or 16% largely due to the reclassification of $345,000,000 to loans held for sale. Total commercial loans increased by $29,000,000 or 1%. End market deposits were up $26,000,000 or 1% and brokered deposits were down $82,000,000 and FHLB borrowings were down by 175,000,000 dollars Our loan to deposits ratio decreased from 106.2 to 105.5. Our asset and credit quality metrics remain solid. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:05:45Non accruing loans were 45 basis points at the end of the year compared to 56 basis points at September 30 and past due loans were 23 basis points compared to 37 at September 30. The allowance totaled $42,000,000 or 82 percent of total loans and provided NPL coverage of 180%. The 4th quarter provision for credit losses was $1,000,000 We had net charge offs of $1,900,000 in the 4th quarter $2,000,000 for the full year of 2024. This time, I'll turn the call back to Ned. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:06:21Thanks Ron. And now Lydia, we can take questions. Operator00:06:26Thank We have a question from Laurie Hunsicker with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:06:56Yes, hi. Thanks. Good morning, Ned and Mary and Ron and Bill and Karen. So hoping, Ron, that you can start with margin and just really help us think about all of the moving parts, especially because some of this obviously isn't even reflected now until the end of January. So maybe if you could help us quantify it in terms of basis points, the impact on different items, if you have a December spot margin and then also forward looking the impact in terms of the pay down of wholesale funding balances and how you're thinking about that, especially in light of your loan to deposit ratio, how do you think about CDs, etcetera. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:07:40So anything you can help us think about on margin? And then also, I just wanted to clarify your swap expiration was supposed to be a 12 basis point pickup starting at the beginning of May. Just wanted to check on that too. So anything you can help us with in margin would be great. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:07:56Yes. So Laurie, just on that swap piece, that's May of 2026. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:08:02And is that May 1? Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:08:05Yes. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:08:07Okay. And that's still 12 basis points? Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:08:12Yes. What we published hasn't changed. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:08:16Perfect. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:08:17So, yes, so the balance sheet repositioning will be very impactful to 2025. We're projecting a NIM of between $230,000,000 $235,000,000 for the Q1. That will increase over the course of the year to about $245,000,000 to $250,000,000 in the Q4. Over that span, we expect our average earning assets to be in the $6,300,000,000 to $6,400,000,000 range after the settlement of the loans which we sold on Friday. So that will bring our earning asset balances down somewhat. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:08:50And the expectation is that we will be paying down primarily FHLB funding over the next couple of months. The spot margin for December was 2.07. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:09:06Okay. And then just how are you thinking about deposits and CDs and repricing there? Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:09:14Yes. So the Fed's cut four times and we will continue to see included this is included in the numbers I just gave you, but we still have some short term maturing wholesale funding brokered CDs over the next few months that will reprice on that. And also our regular retail CDs will be repricing down. I know you've asked about brokered CDs in the past. We will use those when it makes sense to. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:09:42Right now brokered CDs are somewhat more expensive than FHLB and when that reverses, then we'll rely a little more heavily on that. But the trend on wholesale funding is to be paying it down anyway. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:09:55Okay. Okay. And then on capital, I just want to clarify the 2,199,000 dollars share issuance in December, does that include the issue? Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:07Say that again, Lauren? Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:10:08Is the issue already in the numbers? Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:12The green I'm sorry, Laura. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:10:14Definitely include the issue. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:15Yes. The additional green shoe. That would include the ship size. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:20Yes. Yes. I'm sorry, I couldn't hear Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:22you clearly. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:22But yes. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:10:23Perfect. Okay. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:10:24That's all the questions as of December 31. Okay. And then, Ned, just a question for you on dividend. Obviously, it's looking substantially more safe. Can you just comment on that and target payout ratio, how you're thinking about that? Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:40Yes. We're not it's Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:41an important part of this trend. Go ahead, Rob. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:46Yes. So we're not planning on making any changes to the dividend lowering. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:10:53Perfect. Okay. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:54But the coverage ratio is Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:10:57obviously better. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:11:00Right. Much better. Okay. Just wanted to hear it from you. Okay. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:11:05Credit, can you just help us think about a couple of things, I guess with respect to office, the $10,500,000 resolution, that's awesome. You stated that was coming, it came. How much in charge offs was that this quarter? And any color you can give us there? And then I guess more broadly, the $3,300,000 that's new to non accruals, is that a Class B office? Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:11:30I'm just looking at that line item above your chart, but just wanted a little color on those two things. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:11:41Bill, do you want to take that? William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:11:42This is Bill. William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:11:43Yes, I can jump William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:11:44in. The charge off was about the nonaccrual resolution was about half of the total. And so the other one you talked about that came in is actually under agreement to be resolved probably, I would guess late this quarter but more likely next quarter. So again, with all of these, we're paying a lot of attention. We're looking for expeditious resolution. William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:12:10So we're hoping to continue to keep these numbers at these low levels. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:12:18Okay, great. And the $3,300,000 that was in office. Is that correct? William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:12:24Yes. That's the one that's under agreement. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:12:28That's under agreement. Okay. Okay, great. And then just 2 more office questions. The, what is your overall office reserve now? Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:12:36And then also, do you have any kind of a refresh on the leasing that $20,500,000 lab, which had gone sort of from 0 to I had in my notes 52% as of last quarter. Do you have a refresh on that number? Thanks. William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:12:53Sure. The first one, we don't carry a specific reserve against office. We don't manage it as a segment because it doesn't work under CECL. We don't have enough data to drive it. But our CRE segment, which includes office, I think has I'm just guessing here about 125 basis points of reserve. William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:13:15And then we use the way we manage office within that is we use call factors to reflect the fact that appraisals and other things are definitely under stress. So that's again no specific office reserve, but our CRE segment is very adequately reserved. And then your other question was on the large lab space, which is now more than 50% occupied. Leasing activity has been slow this quarter. They're starting to see it pick up already for 2025 though. William WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk Officer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:13:51So we feel there, especially with the significant investment. Laurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:13:59Great. Thank you. Operator00:14:02Thank you. We have a question from Damon Jamon with KBW. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:14:27Hey, good morning, everyone. Hope you're all doing well. Sorry, I thought I had queued in, and I was wondering why I wasn't being called on, but apparently I didn't queue in. So in any event, thanks for all the color on the outlook for the margin and the expected impact from the restructuring. That was very helpful. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:14:48Just kind of wondering what your thoughts are now that that's behind you as far as like loan growth and opportunities, now that you've kind of freed up some capacity on the balance sheet and some restrain on the margin, do you feel like loan growth kind of going forward could kind of go back to what we've seen in years past? Or you think it's still more of a kind of a conservative approach for a few more quarters? Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:15:15Yes. It's a great question, Damon. So we're building back the pipeline. In 2024, we purposely kind of slowed down the loan growth side of things. And so the pipeline is coming back. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:15:26We're seeing opportunity. We're kind of thinking about lowish 3% -ish loan growth over the period on the commercial side. We'd like to lean that towards C and I. The pipeline right now is lean towards C and I. We've got the CRE concentration limit that we're aware of. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:15:48We're not there's no issue there, but it's over 350 and so we need to be careful on that front. We are still out looking at real estate deals. We're seeing opportunity. The pricing is decent. The structure is good. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:16:06So we're calibrating the growth there, wanting to make loans, wanting to again focus on C and I because it tends to bring more deposits with it. Our priority is on the funding side of things and making sure we fund loan growth appropriately. It's an interesting interest rate environment to figure out. We're seeing more fixed rate requests as people are wondering about the longer term picture of rates. And so it's an interesting environment, but there is opportunity and we think there might be upside opportunity to our current sight line, but the current sight line is kind of 3% on the commercial side. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:16:51Resi, I should let Mary talk about, but resi, we've been sort of running off the existing portfolio and then tilting the resi operation towards sales. So we're still thinking kind of 75% of the volume will be sold, so that side of the balance sheet won't grow. And Ron, I think we're actually we're thinking that we'd have mild reduction in the portfolio over the next couple of quarters, correct? Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:17:21Yes, that's right. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:17:22In the resi portfolio. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:17:25Got it. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:17:27Hope that helps, David. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:17:29It does. It does. Yes. Okay, perfect. And then with regards to expenses, Ron, I mean, how are you kind of thinking about it from like the year over year perspective of growth? Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:17:44If you're at $137,000,000 for $24,000,000 I mean, is it reasonable for kind of 2% to 4% type of growth over the next year? Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:17:54Yes. So, yes, with regard to guidance for the rest of the year, let me bring revenue in there as well. So, so for wealth, as you know that largely tracks what the market does. We're assuming about a 5% increase in wealth revenue year over year. Mortgage largely dependent on market conditions and what origination volume could be. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:18:17But we are projecting call it a 5% to 10% revenue growth on the mortgage line. We do need to reset expectations around salaries and benefits run rate. So in addition to annual merit raises which you kind of just referred to, we are also restoring our incentive comp to normal after 2 years of substantially reduced levels. And we're also making some people investments that we've been holding off on. We've reduced our headcount by about 40 people over the past 2 years. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:18:48So we're going to do some reinvestment back there. Mortgage commissions will also track the mortgage gains and those are seasonally concentrated in the second and third quarter. So all in, we're looking at an increase to our run rate on salaries and benefits and projecting call it $23,500,000 per quarter. All of our other expenses are estimated about $13,500,000 per quarter. So increased NIM, increased fee revenue, but we are also seeing an expense increase. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:19:22Got it. Okay. So add those 2, it's like, yes, 37. Okay. All right. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:19:27So that makes sense. So I mean, yes, you're getting the relief on the top side. So you can reinvest it into the rest of the franchise after taking a more conservative approach the last couple of years. Okay, makes sense. I guess that probably covers it, because I was going to ask about the fee income as well and you kind of trumped me on that and gave me some insight on that. Damon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:19:52So, yes, I think that's it. Everything else has been asked and answered. So thank you very much for the color and insight today. Ronald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & Treasurer at Washington Trust Bancorp00:19:59Great. Thank you, Damon. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:20:00Thanks, Damon. Appreciate it. Operator00:20:05Thank you. We have no further questions in the queue. So I'll turn the call back over to Ned Handy for any closing comments. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:20:13Thanks, Lydia. And thank you for joining us today. I hope we've presented a clear picture of our current state, the positive impact of the Q4 capital raise and our plans going forward. I'd also like to note that on August 22, 2025, Washington Trust will celebrate our 200 and 25th year. And as we mark this occasion, we're focused on continuing our legacy of making a meaningful difference in the places we live and work and enhancing value for our shareholders, our customers, employees and the communities we serve. Edward HandyChairman & CEO at Washington Trust Bancorp00:20:47So, we appreciate your time very much today and look forward to speaking with you again soon. Have a great day everybody. Operator00:20:56This concludes our call. Thank you very much for joining. You may now disconnect your line.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesSharon WalshSenior VP, Director of Marketing Strategy & PlanningEdward HandyChairman & CEORonald OhsbergSenior EVP, CFO & TreasurerWilliam WraySenior EVP & Chief Risk OfficerAnalystsLaurie HunsickerSenior Equity Research Analyst at Seaport Research PartnersDamon DelmonteManaging Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)Powered by