NYSE:LPG Dorian LPG Q3 2025 Earnings Report $28.08 -0.30 (-1.05%) Closing price 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$28.00 -0.08 (-0.29%) As of 04:30 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Dorian LPG EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.43Consensus EPS $0.35Beat/MissBeat by +$0.08One Year Ago EPS$2.62Dorian LPG Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$90.16 millionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ADorian LPG Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2025Date1/31/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateFriday, January 31, 2025Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsDorian LPG's Q1 2026 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 30, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Dorian LPG Q3 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJanuary 31, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Declared an irregular dividend of $0.70 per share, reflecting the company’s policy of aligning shareholder returns with prevailing market conditions. Maintained a strong balance sheet with $314.5 million in free cash, net debt to total capitalization of 15%, and an all‐in debt cost of about 4.7% to preserve financial flexibility. Achieved Q3 chartering revenues of approximately $36,200 TCE per available day and has fixed over 53% of Q1 days to date at an estimated TCE above $37,000 per day. Enhanced fleet efficiency with over 10% fuel savings from energy‐saving devices and silicone paints, maintained a CII rating of “B” (10.6% better than IMO targets), and is retrofitting vessels to be ammonia‐capable. Outlook remains constructive, supported by U.S. LPG production growth, terminal expansions, and modest newbuild deliveries, while acknowledging potential geopolitical and market uncertainties. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallDorian LPG Q3 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Dorian LPG Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Operator00:00:14As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. Additionally, a live audio webcast of today's conference call is available on Dorian LPG's website, which is www.dorianlpg.com. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ted Young, Chief Financial Officer. Thank you, Mr. Young. Please go ahead. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:00:39Thank you, Nikki. Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining us for our Q3 2025 results conference call. With me today are John Hochbateras, Chairman, President and CEO of Dorian LPG Limited John Lycouris, Head of Energy Transition and Chief Executive Officer of Dorian LPG USA and Taro Rasmussen, Vice President of Chartering. As a reminder, this conference call webcast and a replay of this call will be available through February 27, 2025. Many of our remarks today contain forward looking statements based on current expectations. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:01:15These statements may often be identified with words such as expect, anticipate, believe or similar indications of future expectations. Although we believe that such forward looking statements are reasonable, we cannot assure you that any forward looking statements will prove to be correct. These forward looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties and other factors as well as general economic conditions. Should 1 or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize or should underlying assumptions or estimates prove to be incorrect, actual results may vary materially from those we express today. Additionally, let me refer you to our unaudited results for the period ended December 31, 2024 that were filed this morning on Form 10 Q. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:02:00In addition, please refer to our previous filings on Form 10 ks where you'll find risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those forward looking statements. Finally, I would encourage you to review the investor highlights slides posted this morning on our website. With that, I'll turn over the call to John Hadjipateras. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:02:22Thank you, Ted. Good morning and thank you for joining us today. Before passing back to Ted and my colleagues, John and Tara, who will provide you with detailed comments or financial results on the market and our outlook. I'd like to highlight the following. Our dividend of $0.70 per share is consistent with our irregular dividend policy of aligning shareholder returns with market realities. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:02:53Our current voyage bookings reflect the improved market and our confidence in paying a dividend exceeding our current EPS, slight a heavy drydocking schedule underscores our positive outlook. I would like to note that we are achieving fuel savings higher than 10% from the energy saving devices and silicone paints we're installing during these drydockings, resulting in payback periods of less than a year and continuous fuel and cost emissions saving. We expect production growth and terminal expansions at Targa and Nederland by second half twenty twenty five and deliveries of only 11 ships this year will support a healthy freight market in the foreseeable future. We are mindful of a volatile political environment, but we are hopeful that our trade will not be disrupted by a possible terrorist tit for tat, considering that the U. S. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:03:51Share of LPG imports to China was 44% in 2024 compared to 22% in 2015, and China's share of U. S. Exports was 60% in 2024 compared to 30% in 2015. We're confident in the LPG trade with growth prospects in petchem as well as domestic consumption. Expected deliveries in the latter part of 2026 and in 2027, substantial and give pause as a percentage of the existing fleet, they are more modest than past delivery cascades. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:04:30On production, some evolving policies of the U. S. Have the potential to unleash its oil and gas industry. We're mindful of the challenges posed by many uncertainties on the geopolitical front, including developments in Ukraine, Iran and the Middle East, which may strongly influence our market. To navigate this environment, we will focus on prudent capital allocation and operational excellence, doing what we know best, serving our customers by providing safe, reliable, clean and trouble free transportation, while maintaining a solid balance sheet. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:05:07We are preparing our operations and fleet to be able to bid on emerging ammonia projects. We already have the Captain John MP on the water, fully ammonia capable. We recently retrofitted 1 of our 2015 build VLGCs to be ammonia capable and plan to retrofit another 2 ships this year. In addition, we have one VLGC VLAC delivering in 2026. With a strong balance sheet, the company is well positioned to continue being a leader in the VLGC VLAC market. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:05:42And now I'd like to pass you back to Ted. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:05:46Thanks, John. My comments today will focus on capital allocation, our financial position, liquidity and our unaudited third quarter results. At December 31, 2024, we reported $314,500,000 of free cash, which was sequentially down from the previous quarter. The change in cash from the quarter was essentially $10,900,000 in cash flow to equity, offset by $42,600,000 in irregular dividends paid and $2,800,000 in vessel CapEx. As disclosed last week, we will pay a $0.70 per share irregular dividend or roughly $30,000,000 in total on or about February 27, 2025 to shareholders of record as of February 5. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:06:33With a debt balance at quarter end of $570,300,000 our total debt our debt to total book capitalization stood at 34.8% and net debt to total cap at 15%. We have well structured and attractively priced debt capital with the current all in cost of about 4.7%, an undrawn $50,000,000 revolver and one debt free vessel and coupled with our strong free cash balance gives us a comfortable measure of financial flexibility. Looking ahead, we expect our cash cost per day for the coming year to be approximately $26,000 per day, excluding capital expenditures for drydocking. I would note that our lowest cost hedges, which were at 0.92% for 3 months sulfur are rolling off at the end of this quarter, which will result in about a 30 basis point increase in our all in debt costs beginning in the 1st fiscal quarter of 2026. For the discussion of our Q3 results, you may also find it useful to refer to the investor highlights slides posted this morning on our website. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:07:37I'd also remind you that my remarks will include a number of terms such as TCE, available days and adjusted EBITDA. Please refer to our filings for the definition of these terms. Looking at our Q3 chartering results, we achieved the TCE revenue per available day of about 36,200. Though marginally lower than the prior quarter's results, the monthly trend was quite good with November December results showing strong improvements over the October level. As our entire spot trading program is conducted through the Helios pool, its reported spot results are the best measure of our spot chartering performance. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:08:16For the December 31 quarter, the Helios pool earned a TCE per day for its spot and COA voyages of 33,200, reflecting the improving monthly trend I just mentioned. The overall results benefited from the strong time charter out portfolio in the pool. On Page 4 of our investor highlights material, you can see that we have 5 Dorian vessels on time charter in the pool within the pool, indicating spot exposure of slightly over 80% for the 29 vessels in the Helios pool. I'd like to note that the Corsair, which had been on a long term time charter outside the pool has now entered the Helios pool. Looking ahead to the quarter ending March 31, 2025, we currently estimate that we have fixed just over 53% of the available days in the quarter and we estimate for the quarter that will yield a TCE in excess of $37,000 per day. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:09:15That rate includes both spot fixtures and time charters in the Helios pool. Please note that given the difficulty in predicting loading dates, which obviously have a huge effect on revenue recognition, this port options in some charters and the fact that our COAs were priced on average Baltic rates, the estimates we quote during these calls and the rates actually realized can vary. Area OpEx for the quarter came in at $10,161 excluding drydocking related expenses, which was marginally up from the prior quarter's $9,767 This quarter saw nearly $1,000 a day difference between the reported OpEx that includes expense drydocking amounts and our preferred measure of OpEx that excludes those costs. Our time charter rate expense for the 4 TCN vessels came in at $10,600,000 or slightly less than $29,000 per day. Thus those vessels contributed positively to our quarterly profits. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:10:13Total G and A for the quarter was $7,500,000 and cash G and A as G and A excluding non cash compensation expense was about $5,800,000 which reflects what we consider to be our core G and A at a level which is consistent with our expectations. Those amounts netted a reported adjusted EBITDA for the quarter of $45,200,000 Total cash interest expense for the quarter was $6,900,000 again reflecting our 4.7% all in cost of debt. As a reminder, in the 1st fiscal quarter of 2026, that's the April to June 2025 quarter, our total interest cost will increase a bit to about 5% following the roll off of those hedges I mentioned. For the current fiscal year, we have completed 3 dry dockings and we'll be dry docking 4 more of our vessels before the end of March, including some upgrades. Year to date, we have incurred roughly $12,500,000 in cash outlays for those dry docks and we anticipate about an additional $7,000,000 through year end, which includes both payments for the dry docks already completed and advanced payments related to coming dry docks. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:11:24Days in dry dock should be consistent with our previous disclosures. The irregular dividend declared last week of $0.70 a share brings to $15.20 per share in irregular dividends that we have paid since September 2021. The modest reduction of the dividend is consistent with our previous discussions around the topic, reflects a balance mix between current results and the long term need and prospects of the business. The VLGC business is by no means of utility and we don't think our dividend policy should be either. Including the dividend to be paid next month, we've returned approximately $850,000,000 in cash, dollars 230,000,000 through open market repurchases and our self tender offer and $620,000,000 in dividends. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:12:08Those dividends compare favorably to our net income since June 30, 2021, which is the quarter immediately prior to our first irregular dividend of $633,000,000 As we said, our Board weighs current earnings, our near term cash forecast, future investment needs in the overall market environment among a number of factors in making its determination of the appropriate level, if any, for our dividends. Thus, the $0.70 per share dividend reflects a constructive market view when considering last quarter's earning and cash flow and our heavy drydock schedule this year. We continue to be on the lookout for fleet renewal opportunities will be judicious with our free cash flow, working to balance shareholder distributions, debt reduction and fleet investment. With that, I'll pass it over to Taro Rasmussen. Taro RasmussenChartering Manager at Dorian LPG00:12:57Thank you, Todd. Good day, everyone, and thank you for dialing in. The quarter ending December 31, 2024 saw freight market and recovery from the challenges witnessed the quarter prior, but without a winter spike as had been seen the previous 4 years. Export volumes from major export regions remained high, but a warm winter and tepid demand for petrochemicals in the Far East halted any booms from emerging. The high inventory levels and record high production levels in the United States created favorable market conditions for exports during October, but physical liftings from U. Taro RasmussenChartering Manager at Dorian LPG00:13:39S. Gulf terminals were hampered as a force majeure at Nederland Terminal at knock on effects through October. The constraint on export capacity was priced into the West to East arbitrage, which limited speculative buying for any potential cold snaps in the Far East. Although spikes in VLGC fixing demand were elusive, the fundamentals of high inventory levels and high production ensured stable export volumes through October and the Western market traded at a continued premium to the East for the duration of the quarter. The relative attractiveness of the Western market to the East drew significant VLGC supply to U. Taro RasmussenChartering Manager at Dorian LPG00:14:28S. Loading areas and supported a then record export month for VLGCs from the United States in November. In terms of reported exports on VLGCs, the previous record was about 4,670,000 tons exported in August of 2024 and November was about 4,760,000 tons. With negligible delays at the Panama Canal in November, vessel supply was effectively programmed and rates were held sideways. The average freight rates in December for the Western market were slightly higher than November, owing mostly to the many vessels laden on route to the Far East from the month prior, reflecting the situation of continued positive fundamentals of high inventory and production levels, but fewer vessels available to export. Taro RasmussenChartering Manager at Dorian LPG00:15:27The Arabian Gulf to Far East spot market was, as during the previous quarter, characterized by inquiries by Indian public sector undertakings. The limited number of pure fixtures to the Far East made assessment of the freight market difficult for brokers, with rates mostly subject to the pull of vessels to the West and reduced availability for loading in the Arabian Gulf. Although there were periods with sudden fixing inquiry reported in the market, it was often to cover for late running vessels rather than catering to new export tons. The recovery in the freight market from the 3rd calendar quarter 2024 was welcomed by all market players, even if a firmer freight market through the 4th calendar quarter 2024 was likely anticipated by most. Nonetheless, our expectations remain positive for VLGC Shipping. Taro RasmussenChartering Manager at Dorian LPG00:16:30Despite some analysts seeing a challenged petrochemical market in the Far East due to oversupply, Opane continues to remain the competitive feedstock for steam cracking. PDH plants continue to come on stream in China, increasing overall propane demand. Also, the Panama Canal's utilization has reached maximum efficiency during 2024, creating upside potential if congestion increases. Moreover, the limited delivery schedule of new builds in 2025, expected high export supply from North America and roughly 13% capacity expansion at U. S. Taro RasmussenChartering Manager at Dorian LPG00:17:12Gulf terminals during the second half of twenty twenty five are positive factors moving forward. Thank you. I will now pass over to Mr. John Lycouris. John LycourisHead of Energy Transition & Director at Dorian LPG00:17:25Thank you, Tyler. John LycourisHead of Energy Transition & Director at Dorian LPG00:17:27During LPG, we strive to improve the energy efficiency of our vessels with a focus on operational and technical performance and continue to follow the employment of technological advances and innovations commercially available to the marine sector. The Dorian LPG fleet currently exceeds the IMO Carbon Intensity Index or CII requirements by using real time data monitoring to determine mid voyage technical and operational optimizations. Our 2024 annual efficiency ratio or AAR, which is a CO2 emissions intensity metric for the industry and grades vessels from A to E with A being best was 10.6% better than the IMO target and grades the fleet with a CIA rating of B. The employment of energy saving devices, advanced engine software modification of advanced vessel routing software and AI engine monitoring systems have resulted in improved fleet performance and in the reduction of emissions and bunker costs. Our scrubber vessel savings for the 4th calendar quarter of 2024 amounted to $1,600,000 or about $13.46 per calendar day, net of all scrubber operating expense. John LycourisHead of Energy Transition & Director at Dorian LPG00:19:01Fuel differentials between high sulfur fuel oil and very low sulfur fuel oil averaged $83 per metric ton, while the differential of LPGS fuel versus very low sulfur fuel oil stood at about $155 per metric ton, making LPG fuel as a fuel quite economically advantageous for our dual fuel vessels. We operate 16 scrubber fitted vessels and 4 dual fuel LPG vessels. Vessels and 4 dual fuel LPG vessels. As mentioned earlier in our call, a second 2015 built vessel is currently undergoing an extensive cargo upgrade for ammonia cargoes during the special survey and dry docking window for that vessel regulatory requirements. There is another ammonia's cargo upgrade for a vessel planned for dry dock later this year. John LycourisHead of Energy Transition & Director at Dorian LPG00:19:58Upon completion, the Dorian LPG of completion of these projects, the Dorian LPG fleet will have in the water 4 vessels capable of ammonia cargoes and 1 new building VLAC VLGC delivering in 2026. We believe these cargo system upgrades for ammonia cargo capability increase the fleet's commercial optionality and readiness for employment when the first ammonia projects develop and the large ammonia cargo markets are established. MEPC83 is scheduled to meet in April 2025 with a focus on finalizing the midterm greenhouse gas reduction measures, which are expected to take effect from 2027 onwards. The focus is on emission regulations with the approval of amendments to MARPOL Annex VI and the review of the EEXI and CII measures, including the adoption of nitrous oxide technical code updates. We further expect for the MEPC to codify the establishment of technical and economic decarbonization measures and the progression of the life cycle greenhouse gas assessment framework. John LycourisHead of Energy Transition & Director at Dorian LPG00:21:13The IMO is also likely to make progress towards a global carbon tax and we may see a proposal for adoption emerge from this meeting. As previously mentioned, wind assisted propulsion systems offer benefits under the current and upcoming regulatory frameworks. We have undertaken an evaluation and analysis of the weather patterns and conditions encountered during our typical voyage routes, the aerodynamic and hydrodynamic factors of our vessels, so that we can identify suitable wind assisted propulsion systems solutions for our fleet. The electing wind technology that is both efficient and straightforward to install and operate can be a pivotal step in the energy transition, delivering a cost effective path towards reduced emissions and seamless regulatory compliance. We continue to believe that our focus on energy and emission savings makes good business sense for our shareholders and for the environment. John LycourisHead of Energy Transition & Director at Dorian LPG00:22:19Now I would like to pass it over to John Expeter for his closing comments. Thank you. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:22:27Thank you very much. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:22:28Nicky, it was good. We'll open to questions we have. Operator00:22:33And with the prepared remarks completed, we will now open the line for questions. We'll take our first question from Omar Nochta with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:23:02Thanks, operator. Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for the detailed update as usual. Good to get into everything. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:23:10I guess you answered a good amount of the question on the dividends with your remarks. So I'll probably leave it at that, but maybe just wanted to ask first kind of on capital allocation going forward as we think about things. The past couple of years you've taken advantage of a very strong market. You paid down a good amount of debt, built up cash, acquired some ships and clearly paid some big dividends along the way. How do you think about what's important as we move through and into 2025? Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:23:39Obviously, there's a good amount of uncertainty, but there's a sense here that maybe freight rates are going to be moderating from what we saw previously. How would you think or how do you rank your uses of capital moving forward from here? John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:23:56Thanks for that question, Omar. You always ask very pertinent and deep questions. So it is I think we continue the same. I mean, we don't our priorities remain the same. I think that we have we see the market, as I said in my comments, as being constructive. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:24:24There are there may be opportunities for expansion. There may be opportunities for I think that we're well positioned for that with our debt structure and our cash position for and we think that the market we're hopeful that the market will continue providing the cash surpluses that we've seen and that we can continue more or less on the same level the same mentality that we've had so far, which is prudent debt management, prudent cash position and dividends. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:25:12Very good. Yes. Thanks, John. That's really helpful. And I guess maybe just kind of talking about the amount of supply coming on. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:25:19You mentioned in the release the 107 VLGCs on order equaling to about 20% of the fleet. Looking back over the past few years, the trade growth has been very strong and easily could have absorbed that amount of capacity. How do you think about the demand going forward? Do you think that we can still see a good amount of trade growth that can pull in these vessels without a significant impact to the supply demand balance? Maybe that's the first question. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:25:49And then maybe like part 2 of that, there's also maybe 50 or 60 VLECs coming in to the market. Can you just talk about how those affect the trade going forward? Thank you. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:26:04Omar, I think, Milton, the ordering boom was caused by optimism on a developing ammonia grade. And currently, there's a bit of pullback and certainly people are feeling more cautious about it. But I think that the it's been discounted, the delays have been discounted and from here forward, the possibility the upside is greater than so just like in the last few years, we absorb a significant amount of ship deliveries. I think the trade the increase in the trade, both of the LPG, my own feeling is and in the potential of ammonia is going to absorb is going to be enough to absorb the deliveries that we see coming in 2026 and 2027. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:27:16Great. All right. Thanks. That sounds good. And maybe just do you mind just touching on the VLCCs in terms of how those are those fully contracted for the most part and by design going into ethane? Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:27:27Or is that something that we should consider as potential oncoming supply as well? John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:27:33Are you talking about VLEC, the ethane or the AC? Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:27:38Yes, sorry, that's what I said. Yes, VLEC. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:27:42No, no, I think that trade is increasing on its own. I think those ships will be absorbed in that market. I know they have the potential to drop down into the VLGC market, but I don't think that there will be that will happen because their exports and then the expansion of that market is significant. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:28:07Okay, got it. Well, thanks John. That makes sense and appreciate it. I'll turn it over. Operator00:28:14Thank you. And we will move next with Clement Mullins with Value Investors Edge. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:28:26Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to start by asking about your bookings so far in Q1. Could you talk about what percentage of days you fixed so far and at what rates? John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:28:41Is it Ted or Tara, which of you would like to take that? Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:28:46I'll just reiterate what we said earlier in the call. We said that we've booked just over 53% of the available days and we estimate that we will achieve a TCE in excess of $37,000 a day for the quarter. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:29:04That's helpful. I had missed it. I also wanted to ask about the time charter in vessels with purchase options. Could you provide some commentary on the price those are exercised well? Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:29:15No, we don't disclose that. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:29:19All right. And then final question from me. Following up on Omar's question on capital location, you're now back trading at a substantial discount to NAV. And this is a decision more for the board, but could you comment on how you view the trade off between share repurchases and dividend distributions? John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:29:42When we have a share repurchase authority and we are watching the price of the stock obviously and it's definitely not off the table for us to continue to sort of accelerate perhaps our share repurchase. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:30:04Makes sense. That's all for me. Thank you for taking my questions. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:30:09Thank you. Operator00:30:11Thank you. And this will conclude our Q and A session. I will now turn the call over to management for closing remarks. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:30:20Well, thank you very much, everyone. It's we look forward to talking to you at our next call. Meantime, have a good time. Thank you. Bye bye. Operator00:30:33And this does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesTheodore YoungCFO & TreasurerTaro RasmussenChartering ManagerJohn LycourisHead of Energy Transition & DirectorAnalystsJohn HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPGOmar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLCCliment MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's EdgePowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Dorian LPG Earnings HeadlinesDorian LPG (LPG) Surged This Week. Here is Why.July 14 at 6:17 AM | insidermonkey.comDorian LPG (LPG) Surged This Week. 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The company specializes in owning and operating a modern fleet of very large gas carriers (VLGCs), each with a cargo capacity of approximately 84,000 cubic meters. These vessels are employed under a mix of time-charter and spot market contracts, enabling Dorian LPG to serve major energy producers and traders by transporting LPG products such as propane and butane to markets around the world. Established in 2015 through the spin-off of assets from a prominent shipping group, Dorian LPG rapidly expanded its fleet by taking delivery of newbuild vessels from leading shipyards in South Korea and China. Since its initial public offering on the New York Stock Exchange, the company has pursued a disciplined growth strategy focused on fuel-efficient ship designs and proactive fleet renewal. This approach has helped Dorian LPG maintain strong operational reliability and flexibility in contract negotiations. Headquartered in Monaco and incorporated in the Republic of the Marshall Islands, Dorian LPG maintains a commercial office in New York and an operational hub in Athens to manage global voyages. The company’s leadership team is led by Chief Executive Officer Christopher R. Engle, a seasoned maritime executive with over 25 years of industry experience, supported by a dedicated staff of technical, commercial and finance professionals. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Dorian LPG Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Operator00:00:14As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. Additionally, a live audio webcast of today's conference call is available on Dorian LPG's website, which is www.dorianlpg.com. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ted Young, Chief Financial Officer. Thank you, Mr. Young. Please go ahead. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:00:39Thank you, Nikki. Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining us for our Q3 2025 results conference call. With me today are John Hochbateras, Chairman, President and CEO of Dorian LPG Limited John Lycouris, Head of Energy Transition and Chief Executive Officer of Dorian LPG USA and Taro Rasmussen, Vice President of Chartering. As a reminder, this conference call webcast and a replay of this call will be available through February 27, 2025. Many of our remarks today contain forward looking statements based on current expectations. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:01:15These statements may often be identified with words such as expect, anticipate, believe or similar indications of future expectations. Although we believe that such forward looking statements are reasonable, we cannot assure you that any forward looking statements will prove to be correct. These forward looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties and other factors as well as general economic conditions. Should 1 or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize or should underlying assumptions or estimates prove to be incorrect, actual results may vary materially from those we express today. Additionally, let me refer you to our unaudited results for the period ended December 31, 2024 that were filed this morning on Form 10 Q. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:02:00In addition, please refer to our previous filings on Form 10 ks where you'll find risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those forward looking statements. Finally, I would encourage you to review the investor highlights slides posted this morning on our website. With that, I'll turn over the call to John Hadjipateras. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:02:22Thank you, Ted. Good morning and thank you for joining us today. Before passing back to Ted and my colleagues, John and Tara, who will provide you with detailed comments or financial results on the market and our outlook. I'd like to highlight the following. Our dividend of $0.70 per share is consistent with our irregular dividend policy of aligning shareholder returns with market realities. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:02:53Our current voyage bookings reflect the improved market and our confidence in paying a dividend exceeding our current EPS, slight a heavy drydocking schedule underscores our positive outlook. I would like to note that we are achieving fuel savings higher than 10% from the energy saving devices and silicone paints we're installing during these drydockings, resulting in payback periods of less than a year and continuous fuel and cost emissions saving. We expect production growth and terminal expansions at Targa and Nederland by second half twenty twenty five and deliveries of only 11 ships this year will support a healthy freight market in the foreseeable future. We are mindful of a volatile political environment, but we are hopeful that our trade will not be disrupted by a possible terrorist tit for tat, considering that the U. S. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:03:51Share of LPG imports to China was 44% in 2024 compared to 22% in 2015, and China's share of U. S. Exports was 60% in 2024 compared to 30% in 2015. We're confident in the LPG trade with growth prospects in petchem as well as domestic consumption. Expected deliveries in the latter part of 2026 and in 2027, substantial and give pause as a percentage of the existing fleet, they are more modest than past delivery cascades. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:04:30On production, some evolving policies of the U. S. Have the potential to unleash its oil and gas industry. We're mindful of the challenges posed by many uncertainties on the geopolitical front, including developments in Ukraine, Iran and the Middle East, which may strongly influence our market. To navigate this environment, we will focus on prudent capital allocation and operational excellence, doing what we know best, serving our customers by providing safe, reliable, clean and trouble free transportation, while maintaining a solid balance sheet. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:05:07We are preparing our operations and fleet to be able to bid on emerging ammonia projects. We already have the Captain John MP on the water, fully ammonia capable. We recently retrofitted 1 of our 2015 build VLGCs to be ammonia capable and plan to retrofit another 2 ships this year. In addition, we have one VLGC VLAC delivering in 2026. With a strong balance sheet, the company is well positioned to continue being a leader in the VLGC VLAC market. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:05:42And now I'd like to pass you back to Ted. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:05:46Thanks, John. My comments today will focus on capital allocation, our financial position, liquidity and our unaudited third quarter results. At December 31, 2024, we reported $314,500,000 of free cash, which was sequentially down from the previous quarter. The change in cash from the quarter was essentially $10,900,000 in cash flow to equity, offset by $42,600,000 in irregular dividends paid and $2,800,000 in vessel CapEx. As disclosed last week, we will pay a $0.70 per share irregular dividend or roughly $30,000,000 in total on or about February 27, 2025 to shareholders of record as of February 5. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:06:33With a debt balance at quarter end of $570,300,000 our total debt our debt to total book capitalization stood at 34.8% and net debt to total cap at 15%. We have well structured and attractively priced debt capital with the current all in cost of about 4.7%, an undrawn $50,000,000 revolver and one debt free vessel and coupled with our strong free cash balance gives us a comfortable measure of financial flexibility. Looking ahead, we expect our cash cost per day for the coming year to be approximately $26,000 per day, excluding capital expenditures for drydocking. I would note that our lowest cost hedges, which were at 0.92% for 3 months sulfur are rolling off at the end of this quarter, which will result in about a 30 basis point increase in our all in debt costs beginning in the 1st fiscal quarter of 2026. For the discussion of our Q3 results, you may also find it useful to refer to the investor highlights slides posted this morning on our website. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:07:37I'd also remind you that my remarks will include a number of terms such as TCE, available days and adjusted EBITDA. Please refer to our filings for the definition of these terms. Looking at our Q3 chartering results, we achieved the TCE revenue per available day of about 36,200. Though marginally lower than the prior quarter's results, the monthly trend was quite good with November December results showing strong improvements over the October level. As our entire spot trading program is conducted through the Helios pool, its reported spot results are the best measure of our spot chartering performance. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:08:16For the December 31 quarter, the Helios pool earned a TCE per day for its spot and COA voyages of 33,200, reflecting the improving monthly trend I just mentioned. The overall results benefited from the strong time charter out portfolio in the pool. On Page 4 of our investor highlights material, you can see that we have 5 Dorian vessels on time charter in the pool within the pool, indicating spot exposure of slightly over 80% for the 29 vessels in the Helios pool. I'd like to note that the Corsair, which had been on a long term time charter outside the pool has now entered the Helios pool. Looking ahead to the quarter ending March 31, 2025, we currently estimate that we have fixed just over 53% of the available days in the quarter and we estimate for the quarter that will yield a TCE in excess of $37,000 per day. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:09:15That rate includes both spot fixtures and time charters in the Helios pool. Please note that given the difficulty in predicting loading dates, which obviously have a huge effect on revenue recognition, this port options in some charters and the fact that our COAs were priced on average Baltic rates, the estimates we quote during these calls and the rates actually realized can vary. Area OpEx for the quarter came in at $10,161 excluding drydocking related expenses, which was marginally up from the prior quarter's $9,767 This quarter saw nearly $1,000 a day difference between the reported OpEx that includes expense drydocking amounts and our preferred measure of OpEx that excludes those costs. Our time charter rate expense for the 4 TCN vessels came in at $10,600,000 or slightly less than $29,000 per day. Thus those vessels contributed positively to our quarterly profits. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:10:13Total G and A for the quarter was $7,500,000 and cash G and A as G and A excluding non cash compensation expense was about $5,800,000 which reflects what we consider to be our core G and A at a level which is consistent with our expectations. Those amounts netted a reported adjusted EBITDA for the quarter of $45,200,000 Total cash interest expense for the quarter was $6,900,000 again reflecting our 4.7% all in cost of debt. As a reminder, in the 1st fiscal quarter of 2026, that's the April to June 2025 quarter, our total interest cost will increase a bit to about 5% following the roll off of those hedges I mentioned. For the current fiscal year, we have completed 3 dry dockings and we'll be dry docking 4 more of our vessels before the end of March, including some upgrades. Year to date, we have incurred roughly $12,500,000 in cash outlays for those dry docks and we anticipate about an additional $7,000,000 through year end, which includes both payments for the dry docks already completed and advanced payments related to coming dry docks. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:11:24Days in dry dock should be consistent with our previous disclosures. The irregular dividend declared last week of $0.70 a share brings to $15.20 per share in irregular dividends that we have paid since September 2021. The modest reduction of the dividend is consistent with our previous discussions around the topic, reflects a balance mix between current results and the long term need and prospects of the business. The VLGC business is by no means of utility and we don't think our dividend policy should be either. Including the dividend to be paid next month, we've returned approximately $850,000,000 in cash, dollars 230,000,000 through open market repurchases and our self tender offer and $620,000,000 in dividends. Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:12:08Those dividends compare favorably to our net income since June 30, 2021, which is the quarter immediately prior to our first irregular dividend of $633,000,000 As we said, our Board weighs current earnings, our near term cash forecast, future investment needs in the overall market environment among a number of factors in making its determination of the appropriate level, if any, for our dividends. Thus, the $0.70 per share dividend reflects a constructive market view when considering last quarter's earning and cash flow and our heavy drydock schedule this year. We continue to be on the lookout for fleet renewal opportunities will be judicious with our free cash flow, working to balance shareholder distributions, debt reduction and fleet investment. With that, I'll pass it over to Taro Rasmussen. Taro RasmussenChartering Manager at Dorian LPG00:12:57Thank you, Todd. Good day, everyone, and thank you for dialing in. The quarter ending December 31, 2024 saw freight market and recovery from the challenges witnessed the quarter prior, but without a winter spike as had been seen the previous 4 years. Export volumes from major export regions remained high, but a warm winter and tepid demand for petrochemicals in the Far East halted any booms from emerging. The high inventory levels and record high production levels in the United States created favorable market conditions for exports during October, but physical liftings from U. Taro RasmussenChartering Manager at Dorian LPG00:13:39S. Gulf terminals were hampered as a force majeure at Nederland Terminal at knock on effects through October. The constraint on export capacity was priced into the West to East arbitrage, which limited speculative buying for any potential cold snaps in the Far East. Although spikes in VLGC fixing demand were elusive, the fundamentals of high inventory levels and high production ensured stable export volumes through October and the Western market traded at a continued premium to the East for the duration of the quarter. The relative attractiveness of the Western market to the East drew significant VLGC supply to U. Taro RasmussenChartering Manager at Dorian LPG00:14:28S. Loading areas and supported a then record export month for VLGCs from the United States in November. In terms of reported exports on VLGCs, the previous record was about 4,670,000 tons exported in August of 2024 and November was about 4,760,000 tons. With negligible delays at the Panama Canal in November, vessel supply was effectively programmed and rates were held sideways. The average freight rates in December for the Western market were slightly higher than November, owing mostly to the many vessels laden on route to the Far East from the month prior, reflecting the situation of continued positive fundamentals of high inventory and production levels, but fewer vessels available to export. Taro RasmussenChartering Manager at Dorian LPG00:15:27The Arabian Gulf to Far East spot market was, as during the previous quarter, characterized by inquiries by Indian public sector undertakings. The limited number of pure fixtures to the Far East made assessment of the freight market difficult for brokers, with rates mostly subject to the pull of vessels to the West and reduced availability for loading in the Arabian Gulf. Although there were periods with sudden fixing inquiry reported in the market, it was often to cover for late running vessels rather than catering to new export tons. The recovery in the freight market from the 3rd calendar quarter 2024 was welcomed by all market players, even if a firmer freight market through the 4th calendar quarter 2024 was likely anticipated by most. Nonetheless, our expectations remain positive for VLGC Shipping. Taro RasmussenChartering Manager at Dorian LPG00:16:30Despite some analysts seeing a challenged petrochemical market in the Far East due to oversupply, Opane continues to remain the competitive feedstock for steam cracking. PDH plants continue to come on stream in China, increasing overall propane demand. Also, the Panama Canal's utilization has reached maximum efficiency during 2024, creating upside potential if congestion increases. Moreover, the limited delivery schedule of new builds in 2025, expected high export supply from North America and roughly 13% capacity expansion at U. S. Taro RasmussenChartering Manager at Dorian LPG00:17:12Gulf terminals during the second half of twenty twenty five are positive factors moving forward. Thank you. I will now pass over to Mr. John Lycouris. John LycourisHead of Energy Transition & Director at Dorian LPG00:17:25Thank you, Tyler. John LycourisHead of Energy Transition & Director at Dorian LPG00:17:27During LPG, we strive to improve the energy efficiency of our vessels with a focus on operational and technical performance and continue to follow the employment of technological advances and innovations commercially available to the marine sector. The Dorian LPG fleet currently exceeds the IMO Carbon Intensity Index or CII requirements by using real time data monitoring to determine mid voyage technical and operational optimizations. Our 2024 annual efficiency ratio or AAR, which is a CO2 emissions intensity metric for the industry and grades vessels from A to E with A being best was 10.6% better than the IMO target and grades the fleet with a CIA rating of B. The employment of energy saving devices, advanced engine software modification of advanced vessel routing software and AI engine monitoring systems have resulted in improved fleet performance and in the reduction of emissions and bunker costs. Our scrubber vessel savings for the 4th calendar quarter of 2024 amounted to $1,600,000 or about $13.46 per calendar day, net of all scrubber operating expense. John LycourisHead of Energy Transition & Director at Dorian LPG00:19:01Fuel differentials between high sulfur fuel oil and very low sulfur fuel oil averaged $83 per metric ton, while the differential of LPGS fuel versus very low sulfur fuel oil stood at about $155 per metric ton, making LPG fuel as a fuel quite economically advantageous for our dual fuel vessels. We operate 16 scrubber fitted vessels and 4 dual fuel LPG vessels. Vessels and 4 dual fuel LPG vessels. As mentioned earlier in our call, a second 2015 built vessel is currently undergoing an extensive cargo upgrade for ammonia cargoes during the special survey and dry docking window for that vessel regulatory requirements. There is another ammonia's cargo upgrade for a vessel planned for dry dock later this year. John LycourisHead of Energy Transition & Director at Dorian LPG00:19:58Upon completion, the Dorian LPG of completion of these projects, the Dorian LPG fleet will have in the water 4 vessels capable of ammonia cargoes and 1 new building VLAC VLGC delivering in 2026. We believe these cargo system upgrades for ammonia cargo capability increase the fleet's commercial optionality and readiness for employment when the first ammonia projects develop and the large ammonia cargo markets are established. MEPC83 is scheduled to meet in April 2025 with a focus on finalizing the midterm greenhouse gas reduction measures, which are expected to take effect from 2027 onwards. The focus is on emission regulations with the approval of amendments to MARPOL Annex VI and the review of the EEXI and CII measures, including the adoption of nitrous oxide technical code updates. We further expect for the MEPC to codify the establishment of technical and economic decarbonization measures and the progression of the life cycle greenhouse gas assessment framework. John LycourisHead of Energy Transition & Director at Dorian LPG00:21:13The IMO is also likely to make progress towards a global carbon tax and we may see a proposal for adoption emerge from this meeting. As previously mentioned, wind assisted propulsion systems offer benefits under the current and upcoming regulatory frameworks. We have undertaken an evaluation and analysis of the weather patterns and conditions encountered during our typical voyage routes, the aerodynamic and hydrodynamic factors of our vessels, so that we can identify suitable wind assisted propulsion systems solutions for our fleet. The electing wind technology that is both efficient and straightforward to install and operate can be a pivotal step in the energy transition, delivering a cost effective path towards reduced emissions and seamless regulatory compliance. We continue to believe that our focus on energy and emission savings makes good business sense for our shareholders and for the environment. John LycourisHead of Energy Transition & Director at Dorian LPG00:22:19Now I would like to pass it over to John Expeter for his closing comments. Thank you. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:22:27Thank you very much. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:22:28Nicky, it was good. We'll open to questions we have. Operator00:22:33And with the prepared remarks completed, we will now open the line for questions. We'll take our first question from Omar Nochta with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:23:02Thanks, operator. Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for the detailed update as usual. Good to get into everything. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:23:10I guess you answered a good amount of the question on the dividends with your remarks. So I'll probably leave it at that, but maybe just wanted to ask first kind of on capital allocation going forward as we think about things. The past couple of years you've taken advantage of a very strong market. You paid down a good amount of debt, built up cash, acquired some ships and clearly paid some big dividends along the way. How do you think about what's important as we move through and into 2025? Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:23:39Obviously, there's a good amount of uncertainty, but there's a sense here that maybe freight rates are going to be moderating from what we saw previously. How would you think or how do you rank your uses of capital moving forward from here? John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:23:56Thanks for that question, Omar. You always ask very pertinent and deep questions. So it is I think we continue the same. I mean, we don't our priorities remain the same. I think that we have we see the market, as I said in my comments, as being constructive. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:24:24There are there may be opportunities for expansion. There may be opportunities for I think that we're well positioned for that with our debt structure and our cash position for and we think that the market we're hopeful that the market will continue providing the cash surpluses that we've seen and that we can continue more or less on the same level the same mentality that we've had so far, which is prudent debt management, prudent cash position and dividends. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:25:12Very good. Yes. Thanks, John. That's really helpful. And I guess maybe just kind of talking about the amount of supply coming on. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:25:19You mentioned in the release the 107 VLGCs on order equaling to about 20% of the fleet. Looking back over the past few years, the trade growth has been very strong and easily could have absorbed that amount of capacity. How do you think about the demand going forward? Do you think that we can still see a good amount of trade growth that can pull in these vessels without a significant impact to the supply demand balance? Maybe that's the first question. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:25:49And then maybe like part 2 of that, there's also maybe 50 or 60 VLECs coming in to the market. Can you just talk about how those affect the trade going forward? Thank you. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:26:04Omar, I think, Milton, the ordering boom was caused by optimism on a developing ammonia grade. And currently, there's a bit of pullback and certainly people are feeling more cautious about it. But I think that the it's been discounted, the delays have been discounted and from here forward, the possibility the upside is greater than so just like in the last few years, we absorb a significant amount of ship deliveries. I think the trade the increase in the trade, both of the LPG, my own feeling is and in the potential of ammonia is going to absorb is going to be enough to absorb the deliveries that we see coming in 2026 and 2027. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:27:16Great. All right. Thanks. That sounds good. And maybe just do you mind just touching on the VLCCs in terms of how those are those fully contracted for the most part and by design going into ethane? Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:27:27Or is that something that we should consider as potential oncoming supply as well? John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:27:33Are you talking about VLEC, the ethane or the AC? Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:27:38Yes, sorry, that's what I said. Yes, VLEC. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:27:42No, no, I think that trade is increasing on its own. I think those ships will be absorbed in that market. I know they have the potential to drop down into the VLGC market, but I don't think that there will be that will happen because their exports and then the expansion of that market is significant. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:28:07Okay, got it. Well, thanks John. That makes sense and appreciate it. I'll turn it over. Operator00:28:14Thank you. And we will move next with Clement Mullins with Value Investors Edge. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:28:26Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to start by asking about your bookings so far in Q1. Could you talk about what percentage of days you fixed so far and at what rates? John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:28:41Is it Ted or Tara, which of you would like to take that? Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:28:46I'll just reiterate what we said earlier in the call. We said that we've booked just over 53% of the available days and we estimate that we will achieve a TCE in excess of $37,000 a day for the quarter. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:29:04That's helpful. I had missed it. I also wanted to ask about the time charter in vessels with purchase options. Could you provide some commentary on the price those are exercised well? Theodore YoungCFO & Treasurer at Dorian LPG00:29:15No, we don't disclose that. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:29:19All right. And then final question from me. Following up on Omar's question on capital location, you're now back trading at a substantial discount to NAV. And this is a decision more for the board, but could you comment on how you view the trade off between share repurchases and dividend distributions? John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:29:42When we have a share repurchase authority and we are watching the price of the stock obviously and it's definitely not off the table for us to continue to sort of accelerate perhaps our share repurchase. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:30:04Makes sense. That's all for me. Thank you for taking my questions. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:30:09Thank you. Operator00:30:11Thank you. And this will conclude our Q and A session. I will now turn the call over to management for closing remarks. John HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPG00:30:20Well, thank you very much, everyone. It's we look forward to talking to you at our next call. Meantime, have a good time. Thank you. Bye bye. Operator00:30:33And this does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesTheodore YoungCFO & TreasurerTaro RasmussenChartering ManagerJohn LycourisHead of Energy Transition & DirectorAnalystsJohn HadjipaterasChairman, President and CEO at Dorian LPGOmar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLCCliment MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's EdgePowered by