Limoneira Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Limoneira’s transition to an asset‐lighter model and optimized revenue mix led to a 17% improvement in agribusiness operating loss, a 14% reduction in costs, and a 30% reduction in total operating loss despite a temporary oversupplied lemon market.
  • The company monetized 58 acre‐feet of water pumping rights at $30,000 per acre foot for a $1.5 million gain, and anticipates further water right sales and long‐term leases, as well as a potential regulated water utility, to boost cash flows in FY 2025.
  • Limoneira recorded its first‐quarter avocado revenue and plans to increase its avocado acreage by 1,000 acres through FY 2027 to capitalize on strong >$2/lb pricing and potential U.S. import tariff advantages.
  • Through its Harvest real estate joint venture, the company expects $165 million in proceeds over the next six years and secured a FEMA flood map revision to remove mandatory flood insurance for 1,100 properties, enhancing land value and marketability.
  • To diversify its agribusiness, Limoneira expanded citrus sales into quick‐serve and foodservice channels, and repositioned farm management services as a technology and expertise partner, exemplified by FAA drone spray approval for precision agriculture.
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Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the Luminara First Quarter twenty twenty five Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode.

Operator

A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, John Knowles with ICR. Thank you, sir. You may begin.

John Mills
Managing Partner at ICR

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Limoneira's First Quarter Fiscal Year twenty twenty five Conference Call. On the call today are Harold Edwards, President and Chief Executive Officer and Mark Palamounten, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. By now, everyone should have access to the first quarter fiscal year twenty twenty five earnings release, which went out today at approximately 4PM Eastern Time. If you've not had a chance to view the release, it's available on the Investor Relations portion of the company's website at limanera.com. This call is being webcast and a replay will be available on Limoneira's website as well.

John Mills
Managing Partner at ICR

Before we begin, we'd like to remind everyone that prepared remarks contain forward looking statements and management may make additional forward looking statements in response to your questions. Such statements involve a number of known and unknown risks and uncertainties, many of which are outside the company's control and could cause its future results, performance or achievements to differ significantly from the results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by such forward looking statements. Important factors that could cause or contribute to such differences include risks detailed in the company's Form 10 Qs and 10 Ks filed with the SEC and those mentioned in the earnings release. Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update any forward looking or other statements herein whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Please note that during today's call, we will be discussing non GAAP financial measures, including results on an adjusted basis.

John Mills
Managing Partner at ICR

We believe these adjusted financial measures can facilitate a more complete analysis and greater understanding of Luminaire's ongoing results of operations, particularly when comparing underlying results from period to period. We provide as much detail as possible on any items that are discussed on an adjusted basis. Also within the company's earnings release and in today's prepared remarks, we include adjusted EBITDA and adjusted diluted earnings per share, which are non GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA and adjusted diluted EPS to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in the company's press release, which has been posted to its website. And with that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to the company's President and CEO, Mr. Harold Edwards.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

Thanks, John, and good afternoon, everyone. Limoneira is unlocking significant shareholder value through transformative land use conversion and water monetization, while growing long term avocado and citrus returns. The benefits of optimizing our revenue mix and transitioning to an asset lighter model are evident in our first quarter financial results, where we achieved improved operating expenses efficiency and enhanced bottom line performance despite a temporary oversupplied lemon market impacting our top line. Our multifaceted approach and asset lighter business model, land and water monetization, expansion of avocado production and growing our citrus business through multiple channels including quick serve restaurants has enhanced our long term operational and financial outlook.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

This quarter's results validate our long standing commitment to a balanced portfolio that can withstand temporary market volatility in the lemon market. During the first quarter, agribusiness operating loss improved 17%, agribusiness costs and expenses decreased 14% and lastly, our total operating loss improved over 30% compared to last year. This quarter, we recorded avocado revenue, we didn't have in the comparable period last year due to the timing of the harvest. The contribution from avocados along with our sale of water pumping rights for a gain of $1,500,000 partially offset the year over year decline we experienced in leaven revenues. This resulted in softer overall top line performance.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

Despite facing temporary downward pricing pressure in our lemon business, we successfully expanded our market reach by increasing the volume of U. S. Packed fresh lemon cartons through new customer acquisitions and deeper penetration into the quick serve restaurant and food service channel. Looking ahead, we anticipate our lemon business will strengthen in the second half of the year as we achieve more substantial market share and benefit from the seasonal pricing improvements typically seen during summer months, as well as a recent freeze in Spain that is expected to shift imports away from The United States and improved pricing. Overall, we are benefiting from our decision to review strategic alternatives as this is enabling us to improve our overall utilization of our assets to enhance long term shareholder value.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

We continue to monetize our land and water portfolio through strategic developments and entitlements, accelerate California avocado leadership by scaling our position as one of the country's largest avocado growers and expand citrus operations by growing integrated services across growing, packing, marketing and distribution to drive higher margins. Since announcing our exploration of strategic alternatives, we have successfully monetized our water rights alongside certain real estate assets and we anticipate further land use conversion and water monetization opportunities to materialize in fiscal year twenty twenty five. In addition, we are gaining valuable insights from this process that are sharpening our focus on key value drivers for sustainable shareholder value, while enabling us to implement improvements across our entire operation. For example, we've refined our approach to farm management services. Building on our century long heritage of agricultural innovation, we're positioning ourselves as the industry's premier technology and expertise partner.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

This allows us to deliver specialized value added services to both farm management companies and independent farms alike. Our recent FAA approval for drone spray application in California exemplifies our commitment to advanced solutions, offering one of many ways we're bringing precision, cost efficiency and sustainability to our partners. This capability is just the latest addition to our suite of cutting edge technologies, agronomic consulting expertise and specialized field services that span California and Arizona. By positioning ourselves as an essential resource that enhances rather than competes with farm management providers, we anticipate broader market penetration, more diversified revenue streams and stronger more collaborative relationships throughout the agricultural ecosystem, positioning us for growth in this promising segment. We also made the strategic decision to dramatically expand our avocado production.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

Avocado pricing is currently averaging over $2 a pound, which is very strong. And looking ahead, we continue to see a strong EBITDA outlook that is underpinned by plans to expand avocado production by 1,000 acres through fiscal year twenty twenty seven to capitalize on robust consumer demand trends. The ongoing discussions about potential new tariff legislation could create favorable conditions for our business as our avocados are grown in California. Should these tariffs be implemented on imported avocados, we anticipate a positive impact on domestic pricing and market dynamics that would benefit our operations for the foreseeable future. Turning to our residential joint venture with the Lewis Group of Companies for the Harvest real estate development project.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

This continues to perform very well and we expect to receive $165,000,000 in proceeds over the next six fiscal years. In addition, during the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five, we received approval from the Federal Emergency Management Agency or FEMA to revise a flood zone map area effective 05/15/2025 that significantly reduces the number of property owners that are required to pay flood insurance within East Area 1, East Area 2 and other real estate within the flood zone area West Of Santa Paula Creek. Within East Area 1, approximately 1,100 existing and future residents will not be subject to mandatory flood insurance due to the revised flood zone map. It has been a time of intensive process as we have been working with various public agencies since 2020 to correct the FEMA flood zone insurance rate map. Revising the flood zone map is expected to improve future interest in residential and commercial real estate in these zones as it removes the concern of flooding and the cost of mandatory flood insurance.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

Even after the recent non strategic asset sales over the past year and a half, we continue to manage approximately 10,500 acres of land with approximately 21,000 acre feet of owned water usage and pumping rights, representing tremendous long term value growth opportunities from our assets. You can see by the year over year improvement in agribusiness operating results during the first quarter, our transition to an asset lighter business model and focus on the best use of our assets to enhance stockholder value is having a positive effect. We're building significant momentum in fiscal year twenty twenty five as demonstrated by our January announcement of three separate water right monetization transactions with additional water monetization opportunities expected to materialize later this year. We anticipate further growth through enhanced sourcing of third party lemons, expansion of avocado production alongside the continued monetization of our real estate assets. Our compelling portfolio of agricultural and real estate assets together with our valuable water resources and strong balance sheet create multiple pathways to build lasting shareholder value.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Mark.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

Thank you, Harold, and good afternoon, everyone. Before I begin, I would remind you it is best to view our business on an annual, not quarterly basis due to the seasonal nature of our business. Historically, our first and fourth quarters are the seasonally softer quarters, while our second and third quarters are stronger. For the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five, total net revenue was $34,300,000 compared to total net revenue of $39,700,000 in the first quarter of the previous fiscal year. Agribusiness revenue was $32,900,000 compared to $38,300,000 in the first quarter last year.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

Other operations revenue was $1,500,000 in the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five compared to 1,400,000 in the first quarter last year. The decline in agribusiness revenue year over year stems partially from a temporarily oversupplied lemon market, which has placed downward pressure on prices. We anticipate these challenging market conditions to persist through Q2, but with relief expected in the second half of the year due to the reasons Harold outlined. Our strategic investments in growing our citrus business through multiple channels, our expanding avocado market presence and the monetization of our assets have partially offset these challenges this quarter. This market pressure validates our ongoing revenue diversification strategy beyond raw commodity lemons, positioning us to better withstand cyclical market fluctuations.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

Agribusiness revenue for the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five includes $21,200,000 in fresh packed lemon sales compared to $23,900,000 during the same period of fiscal year twenty twenty four. Approximately 1,147,000 cartons of U. S. Packed fresh lemons were sold during the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five at an $18.44 average price per carton compared to 1,137,000 cartons sold at a $21.06 average price per carton during the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty four. Brokered lemons and other lemon sales were $2,200,000 and $2,900,000 in the first quarter of fiscal years twenty twenty five and 2024, respectively.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

The company recognized $162,000 of avocado revenue in the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five compared to no avocado revenue in the same period of fiscal year twenty twenty four due to the timing of harvest. Approximately 73,000 pounds of avocados were sold in aggregate during the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five at an impressive $2.25 average price per pound. The company recognized $1,600,000 of orange revenues in the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five compared to $1,100,000 in the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty four. Approximately 75,000 cartons of oranges were sold during the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five at a $20.91 average price per carton compared to approximately 80,000 cartons sold at a $14.26 average price per carton during the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty four. As a reminder, the company opportunistically has buy sell arrangements for orange orders with our retail and foodservice customers to complement our lemon sales.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

Specialty citrus and wine grape revenue was $500,000 in the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five compared to $1,100,000 in the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty four. Due to the timing of harvest, no wine grape revenue was recorded for the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five compared to $600,000 in the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty four. Farm management revenues were $1,200,000 in the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five compared to $2,000,000 in the same period of fiscal year twenty twenty four on similar acreage. The decrease in farm management revenues in the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five was primarily due to farm management decisions based on weather and crop conditions. As Harold mentioned, we are evolving our farm management services division to position ourselves as a value add partner rather than a competitor in the agricultural ecosystem.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

By positioning ourselves as an essential technology and expertise resource, we're able to deploy our agricultural technology and century of expertise across a much broader customer base, while creating mutually beneficial relationships with farm management service providers. This collaborative approach significantly expands our market reach while allowing us to leverage the same advanced farming capabilities we've refined across our own operations. Total costs and expenses for the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five decreased by 16% to $39,700,000 compared to $47,500,000 in the first quarter of last year. Operating loss for the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five improved by $2,400,000 to a loss of 5,300,000 compared to an operating loss of $7,700,000 in the first quarter of the previous fiscal year. Net loss applicable to common stock after preferred dividends for the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five was $3,200,000 compared to a net loss applicable to common stock of $3,700,000 in the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty four.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

Net loss per diluted share for the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five was $0.18 compared to a net loss per diluted share of $0.21 for the same period of fiscal year twenty twenty four. Adjusted net loss for diluted EPS for the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five was $2,500,000 compared to adjusted net loss for diluted EPS of $3,200,000 in the same period of fiscal year twenty twenty four. Adjusted net loss per diluted share for the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five was $0.14 compared to adjusted net loss per diluted share of $0.18 for the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty four. A reconciliation of net loss attributable to Limoneira Company to adjusted net loss for diluted EPS is provided at the end of our earnings release. Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five improved to a loss of $2,300,000 compared to a loss of $4,800,000 in the same period of fiscal year twenty twenty four.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

A reconciliation of net loss attributable to Limoneira Company to adjusted EBITDA is also provided at the end of our earnings release. In the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five, we sold water pumping rights in the Santa Paula Basin for $30,000 per acre foot in three separate transactions. The total selling price was $1,700,000 and we recorded a gain on sales of water rights of $1,500,000 Turning now to our balance sheet and liquidity. Long term debt as of 01/31/2025 was $57,900,000 compared to $40,000,000 at the end of fiscal year twenty twenty four. Debt levels as of 01/31/2025, minus $1,100,000 of cash on hand resulted in a net debt position of $56,800,000 at quarter end.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

Additionally, our fiftyfifty joint venture with the Lewis Group held $62,400,000 of cash and cash equivalents as of 01/31/2025, of which 50% is approximately $31,200,000 This additional liquidity source from our joint venture partnership provides further financial flexibility beyond the quarter end net debt figures. Now, I'd like to turn the call back to Harold to discuss our fiscal year twenty twenty five outlook and longer term growth pipeline.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

Thanks, Mark. We continue to expect fresh lemon volumes to be in the range of 5,000,000 to 5,500,000 cartons for fiscal year twenty twenty five and expect avocado volumes to be in the range of 7,000,000 to 8,000,000 for for fiscal year twenty twenty five. In addition, we expect to receive $165,000,000 from Harvest, Limoneira, Louis Community Builders two and East Area two over the next six fiscal years. Looking ahead, we continue to see a strong EBITDA outlook underpinned by plans to expand avocado production by 1,000 acres through fiscal year twenty twenty seven to capitalize on robust consumer demand trends. During this transition, the company expects fiscal year twenty twenty five avocado volume to be lower compared to fiscal year twenty twenty four due to the alternate bearing nature of avocado trees.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

These operational results do not take into account anticipated additional gains from asset monetization. Overall, we're very pleased with our start to fiscal year twenty twenty five and look forward to updating you on our progress during our second quarter earnings call. Operator, we'll now open the call to questions.

Operator

Great. Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. First question here is from Ben Kluge from Leak Street Capital. Please go ahead.

Ben Klieve
Senior Research Analyst at Lake Street Capital Markets, LLC

All right. Thanks for taking my questions and apologies in advance of the background noise. I'm on the road today. A couple of questions for you guys. First around this Water Right transaction.

Ben Klieve
Senior Research Analyst at Lake Street Capital Markets, LLC

It was very encouraging to see the per acre foot number. I'm curious about the total volume or total level of acre feet in this agreement. It's back from like 55 acre feet to something like that, barely a rounding error relative to your total asset base. So I'm wondering, why was that $55,000,000 the right number? Were you guys holding back on the sale, wanting to retain these assets for a longer time?

Ben Klieve
Senior Research Analyst at Lake Street Capital Markets, LLC

Were those customers not in need of more in this transaction? Can you just kind of give us some context for around that dynamic?

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

Hi, Ben. Yes, happy to. So really, it's more of a function of opportunistic demand that presented itself. The opportunity to find buyers at these values, they come up periodically. The benchmark value levels we used and how we arrived at the $30,000 per acre foot is that's the fee in lieu that developers are paying to adjacent cities, where our assets are located and where the water comes from.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

So we benchmark to those rates as a way to come up with the $30,000 an acre foot. They were three separate transactions, but to two different buyers, different type of buyers. One was for development a development buyer in a city and the other was for an agricultural buyer. The opportunities to monetize come around periodically, but this was one of the first opportunities for us to actually execute. We thought it was a great opportunity for us to be able to point to the values on these 58 acre feet that we monetize against the approximately 9,500 acre feet that we actually own in the basin.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

And you'll see more of this kind of activity coming in 2025. We have additional opportunistically driven demand for additional pumping rights that you'll see in two forms. One, in additional actual pumping right sales, but also in long term water leases at municipal rates, which if you net present value back these long term lease opportunities, you'll find that it creates extraordinary value, but over a long period of time of sustainable cash flows.

Ben Klieve
Senior Research Analyst at Lake Street Capital Markets, LLC

Got it. Very helpful. And I guess one follow-up to this is the you seem pretty optimistic that there will be additional transactions of this asset base year within this fiscal year. Is this confidence derived from those existing partners that you had with this transaction? Are these new parties that you are bringing in?

Ben Klieve
Senior Research Analyst at Lake Street Capital Markets, LLC

Just trying to get a sense of kind of how far down the road you are in this process.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

Yes. So both actually. A little bit more to some prior buyers, but two other opportunities to monetize water, which will be announced shortly in 2025. The other opportunity that we're exploring right now is actually the development or creation of a water utility, where we're actually aggregating our water asset resources and in an organized regulated way providing water service to our workforce houses, but also to our agricultural operations as a way to manage over the long term the ability to provide wet water to delivery areas that we have the capability of delivering to, but also to our existing farming assets and workforce housing assets.

Ben Klieve
Senior Research Analyst at Lake Street Capital Markets, LLC

Got it. Interesting. We'll look forward to hearing more about that later this year. And then one other one for me on the avocado front. I mean, with each passing forward, it seems that this initiative that you've had in place just gets more and more attractive.

Ben Klieve
Senior Research Analyst at Lake Street Capital Markets, LLC

So congratulations on really making a pretty sensible move here in the avocado space. My question is around the kind of opportunity beyond what you already have announced. How much of your acreage that you have in lemons and other crops? Would it be agronomically feasible for you to make additional plantings in the avocado space? And then in the context of a market that's pretty challenged with a lot of permanent crops and other citrus or stone fruits or nuts, do you see other growers in California doing this as well? Those are my two questions in the avocado front.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

Great. Thanks, Ben. So a couple answers to those questions. So as far as expanding our production, we probably could expand maybe two fifty to 500 additional acres outside of the 2,000 that we've already have designated. The only issues come there is some areas you get into some colder areas that make it less feasible, and you want to have an opportunity not to have to have wind machines and all that.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

So I would say 2,000 to 2,500 acres will be somewhere within that range. If you think about how avocados grow, so San Diego County used to be a big avocado grower. They have abandoned our running out of water down there that's affordable at least. And so really Ventura County and parts of Santa Barbara County are really the only place from a temperature perspective when avocado likes a warm day and a cool night, but not too many extremes. And so where we are in Ventura County specifically, you've seen a lot of lemons come out and you'll continue to see lemons come out and replanted into avocados just because it's a reliable source of water.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

We've got really long term reliable water in our basins and the temperature zones are perfect. And so between here and again Santa Barbara, you'll see growth. But again, I don't think we'll probably get right now California produces anywhere from 300,000,000 to 400,000,000 pounds and if that goes to 500,000,000 pounds or 600,000,000 at most, that's still only 10% to 15% of The U. S. Consumption. So a lot of tailwinds there.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

So Ben, I might pile on just to throw a little more color on there. So you can't as Mark pointed out, you can't grow avocados everywhere. And so in our sort of location in Ventura County, there are areas that are colder and areas that are warmer. The additional expansion where we're expanding are in warmer areas where we have a better chance of surviving future freezes. And freezes are a reality that we all kind of live around and avocados don't like cold temperatures.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

It's kind of like why we like living around avocado trees. But so that's one factor. But so I guess the answer is that as you see lemons coming under pressure and more and more lemon growers getting out of lemon production just because of the challenging economics of lemons, not all of them will go into avocados because they won't be able to grow them just due to the temperature realities of some of their properties. The other interesting limiting factor to growth of avocados right now is nursery stock. There's not a lot of nursery stock out there for growers that are interested in converting to access new trees.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

There's probably a backed up pipeline demand of four to five years of avocado trees right now for nurseries. And so even if there were growers that were pushing lemons out and wanting to plant new lemons, it's very difficult to get the nursery stock. And I guess fortunately or unfortunately, we're probably a contributing factor to that just because of the sheer volume of expansion that we've been managing.

Ben Klieve
Senior Research Analyst at Lake Street Capital Markets, LLC

All right. Very interesting stuff. Well, I appreciate you guys taking my questions. Look forward to some more updates here later this year. I'll get back in queue.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

Thanks, Ben.

Mark Palamountain
Mark Palamountain
CFO at Limoneira Company

Thanks, Ben.

Operator

This concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back to Harold Edwards.

Harold Edwards
Harold Edwards
President & CEO at Limoneira Company

Great. I want to thank you all for your questions and your interest in Limoneira. Have a great day.

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    • John Mills
      Managing Partner at ICR
    • Ben Klieve
      Senior Research Analyst at Lake Street Capital Markets, LLC
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