STV Group H2 2024 Earnings Report

STV Group EPS Results

• Actual EPS: GBX 29
• Consensus EPS: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• One Year Ago EPS: N/A

STV Group Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: N/A
• Expected Revenue: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

STV Group Announcement Details

• Quarter: H2 2024
• Date: 3/12/2025
• Time: After Market Closes
• Conference Call Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 8:30AM ET

STV is Scotland’s home of news, entertainment and drama, serving audiences with quality content on air, online and on demand. STV’s broadcast channel reaches 2.8 million viewers each month, while free streaming service STV Player, features a library of premium content and is available on all major platforms across the UK. Multi-genre production company STV Studios is Scotland’s biggest production company and one of the UK’s top ten indies, creating world class content for a range of UK and international broadcast networks and streamers.

STV Group H2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Presentation

[Operator]

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to STV Full Year Results twenty twenty four. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the presentation, we will conduct a Q and A session. Please note this call is being live streamed to a webcast for a wider audience and will be recorded. During the Q and A element of this call, if you wish to ask a question, we ask that you please use the raise hand function at the bottom of your Zoom screen.

[Operator]

If you already have a question, please do this now ready for when the Q and A begins.

[Paul Reynolds, Independent Non-Executive Chairman at STV Group]

Okay.

[Paul Reynolds, Independent Non-Executive Chairman at STV Group]

Vacation strategy, we are now very much more a balanced business. This strategy was designed to make us increasingly resilient and able to navigate uncertain times. And so it has, and we're very well positioned for the inevitable market recovery. I'm also pleased to say that we've been controlling our costs tightly with more to come. And the combined mass reach of our broadcast and digital platforms across Scotland provides good confidence in STV's unique commercial proposition.

[Paul Reynolds, Independent Non-Executive Chairman at STV Group]

And the demonstrable strong growth in the quality and quantity of our Studios business provides very exciting prospects going forward. The new Chief Executive, Rufus Radcliffe, joined the company on November 1. He spent his first four months really getting to know the business and their people, and I'm excited about the future of STV Group under his leadership as I know he has. We and the team can deliver much more for our customers, our viewers, our partners and shareholders. Thanks again for joining us today and for your interest in STV.

[Paul Reynolds, Independent Non-Executive Chairman at STV Group]

And I'll now hand over to Rufus and Lindsay Dickson, our CFO and COO, to take you through the presentation on our 2024 results.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Thanks very much, Paul, and hello, everyone. I'm really pleased to be here for STV's twenty twenty four results presentation. I joined STV on November and I've had the chance to meet many people. But for those that I haven't met yet, I thought I should kick off by properly introducing myself. I've spent all of my career in media and I know I'm biased, but I think it is an amazing sector to be in.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

It's exciting, fast changing and dynamic. I started my career working at two different blue chip advertising agencies, McCann Ericsson and JWT, working on clients like Kellogg, Nescafe, and although you wouldn't believe it looking at my hair now, L'Oreal LV shampoo. I then moved to channel four, where I spent a lot of focus on expanding their brand portfolio, including the launch of youth brand e4, which is still going strong today, as well as more for a premium factual brand and the launch of their streaming proposition for OD. And before joining STV, I had a range of roles at ITV. I was sitting on the exec board for eight years as chief marketing officer, running a range of direct to consumer activities, including gaming, live events, merchandise, and their interactive competitions business, and led the development and launch of ITVX, the fastest growing streaming service in The UK.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

I believe passionately in commercial public service media or PSM as we call it and its importance to The UK creative economy. And for three years was chair of Freeview, the PSM funded joint venture, which remains today the biggest TV platform in The UK. And summing up what has joined my career up to date, it is using digital to create opportunities, recognizing the power of brands to unlock business value and putting viewers and customers at the heart of decision making. So that's my background and now to STV. We are very pleased that 2024 saw a strong set of results against what is well understood to be a challenging advertising and commissioning backdrop, with financial performance as expected.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Total advertising revenue was up 5% before national VOD commission, with all elements of our advertising mix growing. Strong digital growth continued with revenue up 8% year on year. And alongside digital revenue growth, STV remains the number one destination for commercial viewing on a TV set in Scotland and the best place for advertisers to quickly reach their audiences. Looking beyond Scotland, our studios division delivered record revenue from our widest ever range of customers, maintaining our position as a top 10 UK indie. There is no doubt that the industry continues to change and to ensure that SDV continues to perform strongly, we've embarked on a strategy refresh to build on the tremendous progress of the past few years, which we will be sharing further details of in May.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

We propose a final dividend of 7.4p, taking the full year to 11.3p in line with 2023. And before I talk a bit more about SDV's excellent current strategic progress, I'll hand over to Lindsay for the 2024 financial review.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Thanks Rufus and hello everyone. STV performed well in 2024 with total revenue at million, up 12% on the prior year and all main revenue streams in growth. Total advertising revenue on a like for like basis with 2023 was up 5% to million. Pounds Both national and regional linear advertising grew by 4% in the year, with digital revenues up 8%. Studios revenue grew by 26%, driven by the acquisition of two cities at the January, and with roughly half of the revenue recognized in the year coming from scripted programming.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Adjusted operating profit was £20,600,000 up 3% on the prior year with profits growing in broadcast and studios, partly offset by the impact of National VOD Commission coming into play for the first time in digital. Adjusted operating margin of 11% was slightly down on 2023, principally due to the growth in studios at lower margin. Growth in adjusted EPS matched that of operating profit, up 3% to 29p. And net debt associated with the group's principal banking facilities at 28,800,000.0 was in line with the start of the year, with operating cash generated being used to finance acquisitions, dividends, interest, and pension contributions. Moving to the group P and L where you can see how these highlights pool together into one page.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

It's worthwhile highlighting the strong first contribution from two cities during the year who contributed revenue of £31,500,000 and adjusted operating profit of £2,700,000 off the back of delivering Series two of Blue Lights for the BBC and completing most of the production activity on Amadeus for Sky. The average base rate and our average borrowings were both higher in 2024 and so interest costs went up as a result. Roughly one quarter of the increase is due to the higher average rate of interest with the balance due to higher average net debt, the latter principally a result of the greenbird investment in 2023. This is the same position as we spoke about at the half year. In terms of adjusting items, the single largest amount is production tax credits in relation to scripted programming.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Where claims are made under the high end television tax credit regime, we make an adjustment to reflect the income as a contribution to costs rather than as a tax income as that better reflects the nature of the amount. The value of these has gone down in the current year due to phasing of activity and as we transition to the new regime of audiovisual expenditure credits. These new credits are recognized with an operating profit and so don't need adjusting, which will be much simpler going forward. However, 2025 will be a year where we can make claims under both the high end TV and audiovisual arrangements, so the adjustment will continue to appear for this year as well. From 2026, we expect to only be making claims under the new regime and the need to adjust results for this income will be gone from then.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

The other adjusting items relate to acquisition and integration costs and non cash acquisition related accounting items. Turning to advertising revenue, the table on the left shows the year on year performance for each of the main advertising revenue categories for H1, H2 and the full year. After the strong euros driven performance in the first half, you can see the relative softness in the national linear market in H2, a product of changes in The UK political landscape and the first Labour budget and strong Q4 competitors that included the Rugby World Cup in 2023. Regional performance is a combination of our core SME customer base and the Scottish government, with the latter reducing spend over the last couple of years with an almost hiatus on marketing currently in force. Over the course of 2024, our core customer base generated revenues that were 12% higher than the prior year, whereas revenues from the Scottish government declined by just under 40%.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

For 2024, the Scottish government represented just 8% of total regional revenue, down from over 20% in 2022 and even higher in the COVID years. Board revenues before commission grew in the second half, albeit at a slower rate than in the first. Against a national linear market that went backwards by 6% in H2, growth of 7% in VOD was a strong performance. In 2024, STB controlled revenues, so all those within the remit of our commercial team based in Glasgow, grew by 5%. The chart on the right demonstrates the seasonality of advertising revenue, where we still follow a fairly normal cycle across the year, with the Euros in June and July providing the peak I've already touched on.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

In terms of the advertising outlook, visibility remains limited. And in 2025, we've the shift in timing of Easter, which distorts the individual year on year comparison of March and April. Therefore, we've sought to eliminate that from our guidance and have shared expected performance for the first four months of the year. But before going into the detail, it's important to bear in mind the underlying trends. The charts on the left show the twelve month rolling average revenues for both linear advertising and digital advertising since January 2019.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

You will remember all the ups and downs of linear advertising over the last few years, but when you look at the underlying trends, the market has been resilient. From January 2019 to the December 2024, the compound annual linear advertising decline was only 2%. And looking at the digital performance, we've delivered a double digit CAGR of 12% over the same period. It would be wrong to project linear forward from the current ad market and assume it will persist forever. History tells us that the ad market goes in cycles and every time it dips, it comes back.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

The question is when and how quickly. So with those words of caution, we're currently expecting total advertising revenue for the first four months of twenty twenty five to be slightly down. This is a combination of national linear down around 5%, regional slightly up, and VOD continuing to grow at around 6%. The competitors for Q2 include a very strong euros performance and so are difficult, and we have the introduction of HFSS legislation from the October 1, although we don't yet know how that's going to be implemented. So there are some short term headwinds.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

The sense we're getting from advertisers is that they're reducing marketing spend temporarily while they identify mitigations for the impact on their businesses of increased employee costs and lower growth forecasts. And our expectation is that behaviours start to change once plans are identified and executed. Clearly, some wider positive market stimulus wouldn't go amiss either. This chart shows the profit impact of the various revenue points of top two. We've shown the gross movements in broad revenues with the incremental sales and then commission as an offset.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

When we get to 2025 and have commission in both years, we'll revert to reporting a single net number. Cost inflation in the business in 2024 was driven by two areas. The first is salary inflation for our colleagues and the second relates to one of the agreements we have with ITV for national linear sales that, under the terms of the contract, increases in line with CPI each year. And the revenue linked cost bar is things like ad serving that are directly linked to growth in streams and revenue associated with STV Player. In terms of cost savings, we delivered £1,900,000 against a target of £1,500,000 in 2024, and so are on track to deliver a full year run rate saving of £5,000,000 per annum by the end of twenty twenty six.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

The main areas where savings have been realized are in studios, where we have completed the integration of the Greenberg businesses and consolidated our London based teams into a single office and broadcast, where we have streamlined operations across a number of areas and in sourced post production to internalize margin and better recover our overhead and a reduction in spend in other areas including freelance, property and other central functions. We've already started work on the next phase of savings targeted for 2025, which will total a further £1,700,000 and have a clear line of sight over the majority of actions required. Salary inflation is the single biggest inflation linked cost for the business and the increases in Employers' National Insurance that come into effect from April present a significant increase to our cost base. The full year effect of this is expected to be around £700,000 with the 2025 impact around £500,000 We're working hard to identify ways in which we can offset this incremental cost in the P and L account, but do not expect to be able to do so in 2025. From a cash perspective, however, the lower interest rate negotiated as part of our recent refinancing should mean that we make cash interest savings that will go some way towards covering the incremental NI.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Just a few words now on each of the divisions and starting with studios where despite a challenging commissioning backdrop that persisted through the year, the division has grown both revenue and profit. Our portfolio approach has benefited us with the timing of moving to majority in two cities well judged given their production activity during the year. In terms of scripted activity, we were in production on four dramas during 2024, with revenue of more than £40,000,000 recognized across those titles. Across unscripted, all majority owned labels won and delivered commissions during the year, and secondary sales of our increasing IT library also grew, reaching almost 8,000,000 in the year at very attractive margins. These secondary sales are one of the main contributing factors that will support our drive to a 10% margin for the division.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

The margin in 2024 reduced slightly on 2023, principally due to a mix shift towards drama programming in the year and margin pressure being applied by commissioners given the macro backdrop. A year ago, we introduced a new KPI, the forward order book, as a way to demonstrate the progress being made in studios. Guiding to annual revenue targets is difficult given we've little control over the timing of delivery of programs, which is the basis of revenue recognition for most of the content we produce. But the order book gives a good sense of the growth and activity in the business. A few points to highlight.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

First, there is a very strong upward trajectory in this number since 2020 as we've built momentum in the business and made key acquisitions in Greenbird and Two Cities. Second, in the early years, most of the programmes we made were unscripted and so had lower budgets. Therefore, the movements in the order book from one month to the next were smoother. In more recent times, when we've been successful in winning scripted commissions, you can see how bringing a large drama into the order book and then delivering it has much more of an impact on the size of the order book at any point in time. Winning dramas though is a good thing, it just means that the order book will not necessarily increase each time we report it.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Lastly, it would also be right to say that while we have continued to win commissions throughout 2024 and into early twenty twenty five, the rate at which commissions are being awarded has slowed. This is true industry wide, although we are starting to see some green shoots and commissioners being open for business again. It will take a bit of time for that to convert to the order book, but momentum is on our side. Moving on to digital, where the division has continued to perform well. On a like for like basis, revenue in the division grew by 8% in 2024, with VOD revenue around 75% of the total, growing by 9%.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Having had a twelve month holiday from commission on national VOD advertising in 2023, this kicked in at the start of 'twenty four and had a resultant impact on total revenue and profit in the division. Now that this cost is reflected in the baseline, we expect to return to revenue and profit growth in 2025. Under our agreement with ITD, our national VOD revenue will grow in line with theirs, and we continue to focus on acquiring third party content to the player on a revenue share basis, avoiding upfront costs and ensuring that we only pay in success. In terms of margin, we've maintained an operating margin at above 40%, which is our target minimum for 2026. The operating leverage of broadcast is such that relatively small improvements in advertising revenues have a meaningful impact on profitability.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Here, you can see the 4% increase in total divisional revenues translates to a 12% improvement in profitability. Of the 2,000,000 increase in costs year on year, around 1.5 of this relates to amounts paid to ITV for the national program budget, which flexes in line with national advertising revenues. The remaining cost increase is the net remainder after realising savings during the year, with broadcast bearing most of the inflationary increases in the group. Turning to net debt, this slide shows the components of the group's total net debt between amounts drawn in our core RCF, cash on hand, and the drawdowns on non recourse production financing facilities. Taking the RCF first, we had drawn £40,000,000 of our £70,000,000 facility at the year end and had cash balances of £11,000,000 available.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Taking those together, that's the equivalent of facility headroom of £40,000,000 We had amounts drawn under two non recourse production financing facilities relating to two specific programmes where the costs of funding are met by the commissioner as part of the program budget. Both facilities are expected to be repaid over the first half of twenty twenty five and based on current production schedules, we expect there to be around 5,000,000 of drawings under similar facilities at the end of the year. Operating cash conversion for 2024 was strong at 134 percent and leverage excluding the non recourse production financing was 1.1 times. And touching on our refinancing, we renewed our RCF in February, putting in place a facility of £70,000,000 for a minimum of three years with a £20,000,000 uncommitted accordion. Our key financial covenants remain the same as before with the same covenant limits, but our new facility doesn't have a margin ratchet for interest payable.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Instead, we pay a flat margin at a lower level than before regardless of leverage. This is clearly beneficial to the group when working capital associated with production financing can be more variable as we will no longer be penalized for short term outflows while awaiting cash from commissioners. And lastly, a few words on pensions, where the accounting deficit of our defined benefit schemes has reduced to £48,000,000 down 12% on the prior year, reflecting an increase in the discount rate and cash contributions paid in over the period. I think more important than the accounting valuation is the triennial funding valuation, which was agreed in October with committed contributions at a slightly lower level than previously. In addition, we've agreed to pause the contingent cash mechanism until at least 2028.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

The recovery plan period for the schemes has been maintained at October 2030 with a deficit of 61,000,000 compared to 116,000,000 in the 2020 valuation. The relationship between company and trustees remains strong, and we're working together to identify ways in which full funding could be achieved more quickly. We're now gonna have a look at your show our show reel, and you'll get a glimpse of the great telly you've got to look forward to over the next few weeks.

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You stay back. Stay back.

We're watching you.

I can honestly say I don't have many of these to sell. You can assure me you're actually an auctioneer. This isn't some weird burglary.

Hope you're all ready.

Winning is as simple as walking from a to b.

Ready to tell our stories. This is how we play. This is how we what? We can play. I feel a bit anxious and nervous, but we're gonna give it our best shot.

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This week on STV, we are all about sustainability. If it wasn't for, you know, the the appeal, we just wouldn't be able to run to the extent we are.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

SDV

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

has got some brilliant content coming up in 2025.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Now before talking about STV's excellent strategic progress, allow me to take a quick step back because with the speed of change and some of the news flow, it's easy to forget some of the fundamentals of why TV remains a good business. First of all, it's an amazing time to be a viewer. Viewers have never been happier. When I started my career, viewers used to complain that there was nothing to watch.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Now pretty much every program ever made, thanks to technology, is available at the touch of a button. But despite the rising global tech brands, broadcaster channel and VOD viewing still dominates the big screen, and this is predicted to remain the case over the next five years, and indeed, as far out as models go. TV remains the most effective brand building platform for advertisers. You could argue that it is the ultimate in performance marketing. We're also delighted that the media bill helps protect public service media by securing prominence for all public service media channels and streaming services.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

And whilst we might not see the return of the huge content streaming wars, demand for premium content and lower cost high volume series will continue. And in an industry that is changing fast, the digital world constantly creates new opportunities to engage with viewers and advertisers. So TV is a good business. STV is a great business. Since I joined STV on November 1, I have been struck by just how strong the STV brand is.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Indeed, it's not an exaggeration to say it is one of the most famous and most loved brands in the whole of Scotland. However you want to look at it, by day, by week, or by month, STV's reach is huge. STV Player has grown strongly over the past few years, helping to capture linear viewing declines with excellent content, distribution and also viewer experience. We have a record number of digital brands choosing to advertise with STV. STV studios is a fast growing content business with a growing international profile, also with a record number of customers.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

And all in all, despite the tough environment, STV continues to deliver with strong cost control That is why I jumped at the opportunity to become STV's next CEO. Obviously, I was very familiar with and admired STV during my time at ITV, But since joining as CEO, I've been focused on really immersing myself in the business. I visited all of our offices across Scotland and London, met our customers from both our advertising and studios businesses, have done a deep dive into viewing trends of both STV and non STV viewers and obviously listened to the views of a range of shareholders, whilst working with the leadership team on our strategy refresh. The refresh is building on the excellent strategic foundations already in place, but it is looking at both the three year horizon and beyond 02/1930, when in terms of pensions, we will have reached the end of our recovery plan period and no more cash contributions into the scheme will be required. The refresh is focused on three areas.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Firstly, what is the next chapter for the studios business? How do we make sure we continue to win in a changing content market, identifying international growth and ensuring we remain the best home for ambitious creative talent? Secondly, what's the next chapter for our advertising business? How do we remain Scotland's strongest marketing platform? And how can we embrace digital opportunities to further advance our proposition for customers?

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

And thirdly, what further revenue opportunities exist? All of this work is being underpinned by ensuring we have the best operating model to deliver profitable growth and shareholder value. You will hear more about our plans in May. And if we look at our strategic foundations in a bit more detail, we are doing this refresh from a position of strength. The SDV team in most recent updates looked at our existing strategy through the lens of content, audience and monetization.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

So let's take these in turn. Firstly, content and STV studios. In a tough commissioning market, here are some impressive numbers. 51 commissions, 37 returning series, four zero three hours of TV made, firmly established as a top 10 UK indie. And I just wanted to touch on the 37 returning series number.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

This shows the enduring quality of our content because in a tough market, commissioners are more risk averse and want to revert back to known brands, which STV Studios is getting stronger at every year. Just two years ago, STV Studios was a family of eight labels, but through the successful acquisition of Greenbird, we now have a portfolio of 21 labels, which means that when the commissioning market strengthens, we are well set to benefit as we laser focus on content that continues to be in demand, premium drama, tentpole entertainment and high volume factual, building on the strength of our returning brands. In 2024, we had a record amount of customers from a wide ranging pool of broadcasters and streamers, twenty four in total, all of which you can see on this slide. And our content is increasingly IP and international brands. As we speak, we have three international dramas in production, The Witness for Netflix, Amadeus for Sky, the second season of Criminal Record for Apple TV, and Blue Lights, now in production for its third season, can be found on the BritBox US streaming service.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

We also have four shows in production in changed format versions in other territories: the Hit List, Fortune Hotel, Bridge of Lies and Lego Masters, and for the first time, we have over four hundred four thousand five hundred hours in distribution. And if we look at the KPIs the team presented this time last year, taking us to twenty twenty six around returning series, shows with IP revenues and international revenue, all of them are on track. And now turning to our all important audience. You may know this, but not only do Scottish viewers watch more TV than the rest of The UK, but in fact in 2024, the gap grew to a further forty nine minutes. STV itself remained in number one position as the most watched commercial channel, six share points bigger than Netflix in peak.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

We have the most watched news program in Scotland and STV was the most watched commercial channel on three sixty three days out of three sixty six or 99.18% of the time, which should have been even higher if it hadn't been a leap year. SDV Player also had another strong year with more viewers coming to the service, a 13% growth in registered users and we had a good year for subscriptions with 36% growth in subscribers to our ad free player plus service. We also had more viewers watching, a 45% growth in the amount of viewers watching at least five different titles. Red Rock became our quickest ever title to a million hours of viewing and in fact, over 20,000 viewers have watched all 117 episodes, which is really going some. And this all led to viewing on our owned and operated platforms growing by 8%.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Now, almost 38% of all STV's viewers use STV Player and in fact 11% of our reach is entirely delivered by STV Player, showing that it is a truly established streaming proposition in Scottish and UK homes. And I just wanted to touch on drama on the right hand side of this slide. It might surprise you to know that dramas on broadcast TV command around the same sized audience today that they did ten years ago. What's changed isn't how many people watch them, but the way they choose to watch them. In 2024, you will see how the majority of younger viewers, in this instance 45, now choose to watch STV drama on STV Player.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

And for some dramas, in this graphic looking at a title like Red Eye, the majority of viewing from all ages is now on STV Player. Since joining STV, I've also been really impressed by some of STV Player's content acquisitions. SDV is a small and agile business that means we can move really quickly. Red Rock that I touched on earlier is an Irish soap opera that ran from 2015 to 2020 and was just sitting on the shelf with no UK streaming home until SDV swooped in. It went live in q four twenty twenty four and has had over three and a half million viewing hours already.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Brookside went on STV Player in 2023, but continues to grow from strength to strength with a huge volume of shows and consistently in our top five performers almost two years on and there are still hundreds of episodes still to drop on the service. And just a couple of weeks ago, Shortland Street, New Zealand's number one soap landed on STV Player and is the exclusive UK home. And the really smart thing about these deals is that they are all derisked by being revenue share based. And for many viewers, SDV Player is not just about on demand, but also live viewing. It's just the normal way to watch TV.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Euro twenty twenty four was the biggest ever live event on STV Player. I'm a Celeb had a 40% increase in live viewing year on year and the Six Nations has been huge, in particular the England v Scotland game in which I stayed strictly neutral. And the strength of the live experience on SDV Player, particularly around sport, means it can deliver the audiences that advertisers demand at scale. PlayerPlus, SDB players ad free proposition at £3.99 a month had a great year with a 36% increase in subscribers. And we went live three weeks ago with our partnership with Premier Sports, where for the price of a Premier Sports subscription, you get player plus for free.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

It's very early days, but it's been a very smooth launch and is currently on plan. And another example of how we can bring new hard to reach audiences to the STV brand and a further example as well of revenue diversification. Touching on the media bill, we're really pleased that the media bill was enshrined in law last year. It is not an exaggeration to say that this is the most significant piece of legislation from the past twenty years. It not only ensures prominence for our linear channel, but also for STV Player and means that our viewers will continue to be able to find our content however they choose to watch it.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

And more good progress on the KPIs announced at the start of 2024, with the only one classified as Zamba being monthly active users. And last but certainly not least, monetization. I think it's important to remember, first and foremost, that in a world of a in a world with an explosion of online content, TV remains a highly regulated and therefore brand safe, auditable, trusted platform. And our commercial proposition is uniquely set up to have the best of both worlds. Our partnership with ITV gives us a national scale, which in 2024 led to revenue growth of 5% and within that, national VOD up 10%, with a huge digital brand count and world class targeting capabilities through access to ITV's programmatic platform Planet V.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

And on the right hand side, we continue to have incredible regional strength and strong relationships with our advertisers, leading to our STV controlled revenue also up 5% with regional VOD growth up six percent. And an average in 2024 of almost a hundred regional brands per month. We also have seven discrete targets for regions from Scotland wide through to individual cities and regions. And touching on the growth fund, having spent time with some of our advertisers, it is really evident that we are true business partners and our growth fund adding value to clients campaigns has been a real game changer. You can see some of the testimonials on this slide here.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Two facts I pull out: 97% of our growth fund customers would recommend TV advertising and 83% have seen an increase in foot fall by advertising on STV. The monetization KPIs are in great shape and the only one that is Amber is subscribers, but with good growth from 2023 to 2024. And now for outlook and summary. Firstly, the outlook we all know in the short term, the ad market is really challenging and the macroeconomic backdrop will have an impact on advertising and commissioning budgets. And we will have a clearer picture when we come back to

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

you in

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

May.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Looking at the first four months of the year because Easter is in April, TAR is expected to be slightly down with national advertising expected to be down 5%, regional advertising expected to be slightly up and VOD expected to be up 6%. Studios has a strong order book of £76,000,000 at the February, with most scheduled for delivery this year. Cost savings are on track, although the increase in NI is material to the group at £500,000 this year. But beyond the short term, STV is a more diversified business.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

We have growing momentum in content creation, a resilient audience proposition and we remain a highly effective platform for our advertisers. We also have a consistent track record of delivery and this means that when conditions improve, which they will, STV is well placed to take advantage. We'll be presenting our strategy refresh in May, building on STV's excellent strategic progress, but for now, it's time for questions.

[Operator]

We will now begin the webinar question and answer session. The first question is from Fiona Orford Williams at Edison Group. Please unmute yourself and begin with your question.

[Fiona Orford-Williams, Analyst at Edison Investment Research]

Good afternoon. Thank you very much for taking the questions. First, I'll do three because that's traditional. First of all, you talked about green shoots in commissioning. Is there any pattern to that?

[Fiona Orford-Williams, Analyst at Edison Investment Research]

Is it is it particularly international or is it any any more color that you could give us on that? That would be the first one. Secondly, just just in that final section, just on the KPIs, you would you mentioned that they were amber on on a couple of things, the the monthly average users and subscribers. Is that just indicative of a slightly sluggish economy background? And the third one, HFSS, how significant is that as an issue?

[Fiona Orford-Williams, Analyst at Edison Investment Research]

Would you expect if advertisers can't push those goods, they'll just shift their budgets to other products? Thank you.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Thanks very much for those three questions. So let me start I'll start with the KPI one. I think in terms of monthly active users, they were flat from 23 to 24. But I think one of the things that the team are focused on this year is marketing of SDV Player, and we're confident that we're going to get good growth with that moving forward. But you will have also seen that in terms of SDV Player, we had excellent viewing growth in 2024 with 8% viewing growth and also 8% in digital revenue growth as well.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

The other thing on subscribers for SDV Player, we had really, really good growth from 2023 to 2024. And also, we're excited about the partnership that we announced, well, we didn't announce. We went live with a few weeks ago on with Premier Sports where for the price of a Premier Sports subscription, you get STV Player Plus for free. So I think there is gonna there is, good momentum around subscription, good momentum around viewing for STV Player, and a focus for the team on monthly active user growth in 2025. In terms of the content market, look, we've got a really, really strong portfolio of 21 labels now, and we cover all all the main genres.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

So we've got, we've got lots of, really positive conversations in place across all of the genres that you would expect. And and looking at the momentum that we had in 2024 with, 51 commissions and also 37 returning series, I think we're really well placed there. Lindsay, do you want to take the HFSS one?

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Yes. I think the reality here, Fiona, is that we don't quite even know how this is going to be implemented yet. So, it's difficult to say in terms of how significant it would be. Clearly, this year, it doesn't come in until the October 1, so it's three months only for 2025. But exactly how this less healthy foods definition is going to be applied is difficult to tell.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

It is true though that this has been on the horizon for some time now. And so we have been engaging with customers both locally and ITV have nationally to support them through the decisions and the discussions that they've been having around what their options are. I guess as many businesses are currently thinking about how they can make themselves more sustainable, there are equally many businesses at the minute wondering and trying to work out other alternative products, etcetera, that they can be selling that wouldn't get caught by this definition. So I realize that is a lot of words that says we're not really quite sure yet. But hopefully, it gives you a little bit of color around the activity that's actually happening in the sector.

[Fiona Orford-Williams, Analyst at Edison Investment Research]

Lovely. Thanks very much.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Thank you.

[Operator]

The next question is from Alastair Young from Shaw Capital. Please unmute yourself and begin with your question.

[Analyst]

Hi guys. Thanks very much The studios business is meaningfully larger than even just a couple of years ago. And I wondered if you could perhaps go through the extent to which the additional scale is helping you in terms of picking up new commissions or at least getting your foot in the door for conversations that you might not have actually had access to in the past? Thanks very much.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Wow. He just asked one question. That's never happened before.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

We were expecting at least two more. Shall shall I go on that? Yeah. Go on. I mean, look.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

I mean, I think you're you're absolutely right that, only two years ago, STV studios was just eight labels, and now we're 21 labels. And I and I think and I think what we're really encouraged by is our ability to scale internationally now as well. And and what what we've got is we've got new versions of shows in in multiple territories, which is really encouraging. Bridge of Lies, which we actually, filmed just down the road here in Glasgow is is is called Beat the Bridge in America, and we got a hundred shows on the game show Network. Lego Masters is is in over 20 territories.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

And I think also when we look at some of the commissions we've had for the streamers like Criminal Record for Apple TV, that doesn't just go out in our domestic market. That goes out simultaneously in a hundred markets. So so I think the ability of STV studios to scale now is really, really encouraging. And I think having 37 returnable brands that were recommissioned last year as well means that that that that that we are really, really well set for that acceleration to continue. Lindsay, do

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

you have anything to add on that?

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Not particularly. I mean, I think what we have is a portfolio that we are managing. And we've sort of consistently said that we needed to build a certain amount of scale to better leverage the fixed cost base and get that working harder for us. And that we would do that through growing the hours on the IP library because those secondary sales and those format sales in international markets and domestically are much higher margin. And we needed to have a higher number of returning series that gave us more certainty from one year to the next.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

And you see that coming through the order book as well with that on a generally positive trajectory. So I think you're right, we've got a lot of scale now. The labels are well matched against where we think that the demand is going to come from in the sector. And all of the sort of the key metrics that we believe will drive that continued growth and improve the margin within that division around returning CDs, IP errors, etcetera, are all going in the right direction. Thanks, Alastair.

[Analyst]

Thanks Much appreciated.

[Operator]

The next question is from Jonathan Barrett at Paner. Please unmute yourself and begin with your question.

[Johnathan Barrett, Director - Media Research at Panmure Liberum]

Hi, guys. Hopefully, you can hear me.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Hi, Jonathan. Yeah.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Yeah. We can. Yeah.

[Johnathan Barrett, Director - Media Research at Panmure Liberum]

So, I I have got three questions, but it's only three because I've got So, I'll stick to three for now. First question, just on your library rights income, which was up about 10% in the year. Can you just explain to us what how to look at the margin on that and how you expect that to evolve going forward? And then second question is again on studios. Can you just explain whether you get any EBIT margin benefit from using your own balance sheet, for for financing productions when you could shed a little bit of extra light on that for us?

[Johnathan Barrett, Director - Media Research at Panmure Liberum]

And then thirdly, just on the player on STV player, could you just explain the key revenue drivers, what actually makes that go up, that revenue line for us, please? Thank you.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Okay. Thank you, Jonathan. Okay. So just taking them from the start, the library rights income, you're right, that's grown by about 10% in the year. It is not just the sale of tapes, that have already made programming, but it also covers the sale of a format which we can either co produce with another producer in another territory or we license the rights to them to use that format.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

And depending on which of these categories you're in, the revenue and the margin is slightly different. But by and large, you would look to see a gross margin of 60 plus percent on those sales. So with $4,500 now in the library, much bigger than we've had in the past and an increasing number of formats being sold internationally, as Rufus mentioned earlier, you can see that that margin enhancement should start to come through really meaningfully in the coming years. So it's, as I say, it's a mix of tape and format and whether we call pro or not. In terms of the EBIT margin benefit for financing productions, what we look to do when we are involved in either a large scripted or unscripted program is, whenever possible, get the commissioner to cash flow those so that we are not drawing down in our RCF and incurring interest, wherever possible.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Now that is not always achievable and particularly in the current climate, some commissioners are increasingly putting pressure on producers to cash flow programs themselves. Where we can't get or we can't agree with the commissioner that they will cash flow and it is of a meaningful size, what we will look to do is go to a third party bank to get third party non recourse production financing, the cost of which so the interest cost of which is included in the program budget and therefore paid by the commissioner. So it doesn't impact the group's interest cost. It doesn't impact our interest cover or anything like that. It falls as part of the program budget as cast through your trip to eBay for your costumes or whatever it might be, it gets covered in the program budget.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

So isn't a direct cost to the group. And then on STV Player, in terms of key revenue drivers, 75% of the revenue in the division is VOD revenue. And as you will know, we appointed ITV as our national VOD sales agent back in December 2022. So they've been going two plus years now. And part of the deal there was that the growth in our national VOD revenue would be tied to the growth that ITV achieved themselves.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

So a similar sort of arrangement to one that we had in place with linear where there are protections for STV. And as you will also know, ITV have got some very punchy digital revenue targets for the end of next year. So essentially, we should benefit from them striving for those targets and essentially match their growth in our P and L account. Outside of that, it's all around sponsorship of the player, of carousels in the player, the content in the player, subscriptions, a bit of display advertising and other areas that come into the digital revenue. So there's a big chunk that's advertising and monetizing an audience directly through board and then the balance is to say sponsorship, subscriptions, etcetera.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Anything that you want to No.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

No. I know. And and and I think our our our sales team have been really excellent in identifying sponsorship opportunities for STV player as well and and and, and if you if you look at STV player, which obviously you can do outside of Scotland as well, you'll you'll see there's been some some fantastic partnerships that have been done. K. Thank you.

[Operator]

The next question is from Roddy Davidson at Singers. Please unmute yourself and begin with your question.

[Roddy Davidson, Senior Research Analyst at Singer Capital Markets]

Hi, Rufus. Hi, Lindsay. Thanks for your presentation.

[Fiona Orford-Williams, Analyst at Edison Investment Research]

Okay. Hi, Rufus.

[Roddy Davidson, Senior Research Analyst at Singer Capital Markets]

Hi. I have three questions also, but they're all kind of on studios, so maybe that keeps it more simple. First one, just wondered if you could provide a little bit of granularity on sort of commissioning behavior in terms of particularly in terms of sort of genres and price expectations during this sort of more challenging phase? Secondly, you obviously recommissioned or had recommissioned Celebrity Catchphrase recently. And I think from memory, Catchphrase has been going for about ten years ago, ten years since you revised that.

[Roddy Davidson, Senior Research Analyst at Singer Capital Markets]

Just wondering, given that that's a pretty strong demonstration of the potential to reinvigorate sort of resting franchises, if you like, if there are any more of those out there that you've managed to identify? And the final one was really just around some of the coverage, which has been out there of late on the sort of number of creatives, producers, etcetera, who are out of work, general level of unemployment in the sector. It's obviously a very tough time. Just wondering if that's created any opportunities to cherry pick talent or indeed thrown up opportunities to invest in the indie sector. And sorry, finally, just on that point, could you talk a little about your thoughts at the moment in terms of consolidating minorities?

[Roddy Davidson, Senior Research Analyst at Singer Capital Markets]

Thanks.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

I'll start, Lindsay, and then you chip in. I mean, I think in terms of behavior, obviously, commissioners are putting putting pressure on price. But I would also say that a point we made in the presentation is that what in a tough market, commissioners do tend to gravitate towards returning brands and are inevitably a bit more risk averse. And with the portfolio of returning brands that we have, that means that we're in a good position. So in 2024, we had 37 returning brands.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

And you're right to point out Celebrity Catchphrase, which is one of my favorite programs, and we announced the return of it. Who would have thought it was actually forty years ago that the catchphrase first came along? But, yeah, we it was reinvigorated ten years ago. And, look, we're always, you know, exploring our catalog and IP opportunities and, you know, lots of conversations always in place. And and I think one of the big focuses and one of the big impressive things about the strategic progress of STV over the past few years has been that laser focus on generating IP, which means that they can be returning formats and returning brands.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

So that will continue to be a focus moving forward. In terms of the sector and where it is at the moment, I think, first of all, we do know it's difficult out there and we do know that it's difficult for the freelance community as well. The market changes often. We're very happy with where we are at the moment with 21 labels. We think we're really well set for the future.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

But if opportunities come along that are the right ones for for us, we'll we'll always look at it. I think I might did it was there an additional question?

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

Yes, just on the minority side. I think we have some commitments that we've already made around increasing or are already majorities to the 100% over the next few years through various call option structures. So there's an amount of commitment there that we've already made. When we're looking at the minority stakes that we have and I guess potentially other opportunities that might come up, one of the things that we are very cognizant of is just that changing shape and dynamic in the market where there's a bit of a polarization from commissioners just now where they're focusing either at the top end of really good quality scripted drama productions and sort of shiny floor entertainment or the lower end of the high volume, slightly lower cost. And there's a bit of a gap forming in the middle where many programs and labels would have sat previously.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

So when we're looking at opportunities and when we're thinking about the minorities that we currently have within our portfolio, we are reflecting on, well, how do these set against that changing dynamic and is that going to match and then get us the best value for going forward. And you'll possibly remember back to September where we spoke a bit around the sort of label review that we've done within the organization and that four labels had actually left the portfolio and that was part of the reasoning behind that. I think that was everything, Rody. Is that okay?

[Roddy Davidson, Senior Research Analyst at Singer Capital Markets]

Yeah. That's perfect. Thank you.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Cool. Thanks, Roddy.

[Operator]

The next question is from Andy Renton at Cavendish. Please unmute yourself and begin with your question.

[Andrew Renton, Director - Research at Cavendish]

Hi, guys. Thanks for the presentation and well done on a strong set of results. Yeah, a few few questions from me. So, you mentioned you were looking at viewing trends as part of the strategic review. So I wonder if there's any other interesting trends you picked up on that you haven't shared already.

[Andrew Renton, Director - Research at Cavendish]

Second one was the, any sort of potential impact on you from the ITV speculation around us of split up and take private and and so any thoughts you have around that and and how you would handle that? And then third question was, we we sort of hear quite a lot from from yourself and and other, sort of more linear TV focused public companies around the power of TV advertisers. Do you see a world where you could actually have a a rotation and swing back from digital to traditional as people seem to pick up on that again? Thanks.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Okay. Great. I'll I'll I'll I'll have a look at those. Yeah. So, look, I mean, I I think I think the the first thing to say around viewing trends is I I think if you if you listen to the news flow, you'd think that no one was watching TV anymore.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

And and the numbers for for for STV are are really, really impressive. One of the things I pointed out in the presentation was that 97% of the top 500 commercial audiences are on STV. And so we have the ability to reach huge audiences very, very quickly, and that's always gonna be, hugely in demand for advertisers. And and, obviously, what we do is we, you know, we we we look at where we are now, but we also project moving forward. And and in 2024, '60 '2 percent of TV set viewing was, to broadcasters and b vods.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

That's 62%. And and and even if you project forward to 2030 and beyond, the majority of viewing on a t on a TV set is forecast to be by broadcasters and b vods. So I think I think the main point around viewing trends is that that that not only is is broadcast gonna continue to be a very significant way in which people watch TV, but what we're doing is the best of both worlds. We're driving our streaming proposition as well because we're obviously mindful that there are lots of people watch TV in in very different ways. So so I think that's the answer to the viewing trends.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

In terms of ITV speculation that we're absolutely focused on on growing STV, you know, growing our advertising proposition and and grow and growing STV studios, and we're really well placed to do that. And then and then in terms of the the power of TV and whether advertisers would move back to linear, I think what we're finding is lots of advertisers are buying broadcast and board as a combination, and I think that works well because what we have is the best of both worlds. We have the mass targeted proposition, sorry, the the mass simultaneous reach proposition. I mean, you know, whether it's live sporting events or or or, you know, big moments that that bring everyone together, but we've also got tremendous targeting capabilities on STV Player as well. So I think what we don't view it as an either or whether advertisers will swing back, I think lots of our advertisers are buying both our broadcaster and VOD proposition, and both those capabilities are working well for them.

[Andrew Renton, Director - Research at Cavendish]

Great. Thank you.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Did that

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

make you is that okay, Andy?

[Andrew Renton, Director - Research at Cavendish]

Yeah. That's really helpful. Thanks. And then ITV?

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

I

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

will I mean, your your question was around ITV speculation, wasn't it?

[Andrew Renton, Director - Research at Cavendish]

Well, yes. And effectively, do you do you have any sort of contingency plans or any any sort of thoughts around if they if they do sort of take a private and split up the business? If if that would sort of be sure.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

We've got a lot we've got long term contractual arrangements with the ITB. We're working really well with them. We're really happy with the deal. And and, so so, that will continue.

[Andrew Renton, Director - Research at Cavendish]

Great. Okay. Thanks.

[Operator]

And the next question is from Brody Davidson at Singers. Please unmute yourself and begin with your question.

[Roddy Davidson, Senior Research Analyst at Singer Capital Markets]

Hi. Thank you. Just had a couple of additional ones, if I may. ITV mentioned last week that they were seeing a bit more activity from Channel four in the commissioning market. Just wondered if that's something you'd concur with.

[Roddy Davidson, Senior Research Analyst at Singer Capital Markets]

And also, if you could just talk about general demand in our nations and regions context. And then finally for me, just you mentioned in the statement some technology investment in studios, I think both in Aberdeen and in Glasgow, and what that might deliver. Could you give us a little bit more granularity around that, please?

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Sorry, I didn't pick up the last point, Roddy, sorry.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

It's the so that I can pick up on that one. So that is just in the first half of this year, we are redoing the news studio sets within Glasgow and Aberdeen as you see. So there's an amount of CapEx about a million pounds or so that will go into. We've not we've not redone the sets for ten plus years, so they're in need of it. And as part of wider look at brand, etcetera, is the right time to be focusing on the new sets and the graphics and things like that, which have moved on quite considerably since we last did it.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Yes. Okay. And and and, look, in terms of, in terms of activity from Channel four, there's not lots of conversations going on with lots of people. We've obviously got a great working relationship with Channel four. We've done some great content with them over the years.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Two series of Screw, which is a very high profile drama, for example. And and on and on channel four, also, we're delighted that they've commissioned a game of wool, which, I've seen a sneak peek of actually with Tom Daley presenting it. It looks absolutely excellent. So so so, you know, long may that continue. In terms of nations and regions, look, we we we do lots of stuff.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

And, obviously, in Scotland, we're very proud to, be the number one producer in Scotland, and we do Bridge of Lies, Game of All that I've talked about, the hit list. And, you know, Scotland is a great place to to make TV, and we we're we're confident that our customer base will continue to want to do that.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

The the only the only other thing I would add to that is one of the other than Blue Lights being completely brilliant, which it is, it's a Northern Irish drama Yes. Yes. With two cities based out of Belfast. So we have we have got a very clear center of gravity in both London and Glasgow, but we also have a presence in Manchester, Belfast, Cardiff. So we're increasingly through the portfolio that we are building covering the various nations and regions, Rody.

[Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director at STV Group]

And Channel four and others still have those targets to hit in terms of commissioning spend outside the M25. We are really well placed take advantage of that and in a number of labels have got some really good momentum.

[Roddy Davidson, Senior Research Analyst at Singer Capital Markets]

That's very clear. Thanks again.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Thanks, Ronnie.

[Operator]

There are no further questions on the webinar. I will now hand back to Rufus Radcliffe for closing remarks.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Okay. Well, look. Thank look. Thank you very much for for for coming today. I mean, I I I think, we are 2024 was a great set of results, and and and and and I think the main thing I just wanted to say was that there are fantastic foundations in place for the business.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

We know that the short term macro is difficult. We know that the ad market is going through a difficult time at the moment, but the ad market always comes back. And it's a question of when, not if, and we will be well placed for when that happens. STV Studios is is had really, really good growth in 2024. And, again, with our 21 labels, we are really well placed.

[Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director at STV Group]

Our focus at the moment is on the strategy refresh, which as we've talked about earlier is absolutely based on the, the really strong strategic progress of the business over the last five years, and we look forward to, talking to you more about that in May. If there are any questions that came through on the chat, we can't the the power of modern technology, we can't actually see them. But if they are there, we will we we will reply to all of those as well. And and many thanks for your time today.

[Operator]

Thank you for joining today's call. We are no longer live. Have a nice day.

Participants

Executives

• Paul Reynolds, Independent Non-Executive Chairman
• Rufus Radcliffe, CEO & Director
• Lindsay Dixon, CFO, COO & Director

Analysts

• Fiona Orford-Williams, Analyst at Edison Investment Research
• Analyst
• Johnathan Barrett, Director - Media Research at Panmure Liberum
• Roddy Davidson, Senior Research Analyst at Singer Capital Markets
• Andrew Renton, Director - Research at Cavendish