Eastman Kodak Q4 2024 Earnings Report

Eastman Kodak EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $0.23
• Consensus EPS: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• One Year Ago EPS: N/A

Eastman Kodak Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $266.00 million
• Expected Revenue: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

Eastman Kodak Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q4 2024
• Date: 3/17/2025
• Time: After Market Closes
• Conference Call Date: Monday, March 17, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 5:00PM ET

Eastman Kodak (NYSE:KODK) (NYSE: KODK) is a global technology firm with a long heritage in imaging, photography and materials science. Founded in 1888 by George Eastman and headquartered in Rochester, New York, Kodak pioneered the development of roll film and the lightweight camera, democratizing photography for consumers and businesses alike. Over its history, the company has introduced numerous innovations in film emulsions, digital imaging sensors and workflow software, maintaining a reputation as an industry leader in visual solutions.

Today, Kodak’s operations are organized into several core segments: Print Solutions, Film & Entertainment, and Advanced Materials & Chemicals. The Print Solutions arm offers commercial inkjet presses, digital front-end software and packaging solutions designed to help converters, commercial printers and brand owners improve efficiency and sustainability. The Film & Entertainment division continues to serve the motion picture and professional video markets with a range of high-performance film stocks, including color negative, black-and-white and specialty films for both analog and hybrid production workflows. In Advanced Materials & Chemicals, Kodak produces functional printing inks, photoresists, and specialty chemicals used in electronics, surface finishing and microfabrication applications.

Kodak operates in more than 60 countries, with manufacturing sites in North America, Europe and Asia. Its global sales and service network supports clients across commercial printing, packaging, publishing, entertainment and advanced manufacturing sectors. Strategic partnerships with leading equipment makers, software providers and research institutions enable Kodak to tailor solutions for diverse end markets, from label and flexible packaging to 3D printing and semiconductors.

Under the leadership of President and Chief Executive Officer James V. Continenza, Kodak has undertaken a transformation strategy focused on innovation, operational efficiency and portfolio optimization. Emphasizing research and development, the company invests in next-generation materials science, digital workflow platforms and sustainable technologies. Kodak’s long-term vision combines its storied legacy in imaging with new growth opportunities in functional printing, electronic materials and advanced manufacturing.

Eastman Kodak Q4 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Q4 2024 revenues were $266 M, down 3% year-over-year, but gross profit margin improved to 19% from 17%, reflecting the focus on smart revenue and operational efficiencies.
• Full-year revenues declined 7% to $1.043 B primarily due to business rationalization and print market contraction, though gross margin held steady at 19%.
• Advanced Materials & Chemicals (AMC) segment saw continued profit and revenue growth through capacity expansions—rebuilding the film plant and adding a cGMP pharma facility set to start production this year.
• Kodak won a U.S. International Trade Commission tariff petition for its plates business, establishing a level playing field against subsidized foreign competitors.
• Board approved the termination of the U.S. pension plan effective 03/31/2025, with expected asset reversion used to reduce long-term debt and lower financing costs.

Presentation

[Operator]

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Eastman Kodak Fourth Quarter and Full Year twenty twenty four Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Anthony Redding. Please go ahead.

[Anthony Redding, Chief Audit Executive, Chief Compliance Officer, & Director of Investor Relations (Interim) at Eastman Kodak Company]

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. I am Anthony Redding, Chief Compliance Officer at Eastman Kodak Company. Welcome to Kodak's fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four earnings call. At 04:15PM this afternoon, Kodak filed its annual Form 10 ks and issued its release on financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2024. You may access the presentation and webcast for today's call on our Investor Center at investor.kodak.com.

[Anthony Redding, Chief Audit Executive, Chief Compliance Officer, & Director of Investor Relations (Interim) at Eastman Kodak Company]

During today's call, we will be making certain forward looking statements as defined by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. We intend for these forward looking statements to be covered by the Safe Harbor provisions for forward looking statements contained in Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. All forward looking statements are based upon Kodak's expectations and various assumptions. Future events or results may differ from those anticipated or those expressed in the forward looking statements. Important factors that could cause actual events or results to differ materially from these forward looking statements include, among others, the risks, uncertainties and other factors described in more detail in Kodak's filings with the U.

[Anthony Redding, Chief Audit Executive, Chief Compliance Officer, & Director of Investor Relations (Interim) at Eastman Kodak Company]

S. Securities and Exchange Commission from time to time. There may be other factors that may cause Kodak's actual results to differ materially from the forward looking statements. All forward looking statements attributable to Kodak or persons acting on its behalf only apply as of the date of this presentation and are expressly qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements included or referenced in the presentation. Kodak undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date made or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events.

[Anthony Redding, Chief Audit Executive, Chief Compliance Officer, & Director of Investor Relations (Interim) at Eastman Kodak Company]

In addition, the release just issued and the presentation provided contains certain measures that are deemed non GAAP measures. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures have been provided with the release and within the presentation on our website in our Investor Center at investor.kodak.com. Speakers on today's call are Jim Constanenza, Eastman Kodak's Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and David Bullwink, Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President of Eastman Kogak. We will not be holding a formal Q and A during today's call. As always, the Investor Relations team is available for follow-up.

[Anthony Redding, Chief Audit Executive, Chief Compliance Officer, & Director of Investor Relations (Interim) at Eastman Kodak Company]

I will now turn the call over to Jim. Thank you.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining the fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four investor call. I'm excited again to talk about our continued execution of our long term plan in spite of all the obstacles that continue in the world between war, supply issues, inflation, shipping, logistics and just the normal day to day turmoil. In 2024, we continue to invest in innovation. We also continued to increase our operational efficiencies. We were shutting unprofitable businesses and yet driving strong gross profit.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

Our core business continued to perform as expected. The highlights for the fourth quarter include $266,000,000 in revenue compared with $275,000,000 for quarter four twenty twenty three. The rate of decline is slowing. We will continue to focus on smart revenue and innovation. One of the highlights is our gross profit at 19% for fourth quarter twenty twenty four compared with 17% for fourth quarter twenty twenty three.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

This again is a reflection of the smart revenue. Highlights for the full year. Consolidated revenues of $1,043,000,000 compared with $1,117,000,000 for the full year 2023. Part of the decline is Kodak's rationalization of its business. We continue to shed businesses that are core or part of our long term strategy.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

Print has continued to decline, but is being offset somewhat by the increase in the revenues of AMC. Gross profit remains the same as last year at 19% in spite of, again, inflation, cost increase, transportation increase, uncertainty and again, war around the world, we're able to maintain our gross profit consistent throughout the year by investing again in technologies and operational efficiencies. Some of the highlights for our AMC business include a couple of key factors, but I want to be really clear. AMC is critical and one of the key investments for our future. We're seeing continuing profit and revenue growth inside of AMC, ongoing investment and growth initiatives such as we turned off our film plant and pretty much rebuilt it.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

That's a big step for us. We haven't done it in over thirty years. We've increased additional capacity through the sensitizing line. So think of it this way, as the business runs through, we were bottlenecked in the final stages and now we're able to pick up some of that bottleneck by adding additional equipment and making the plant even more efficient and yet putting out higher production levels. We also keep investing in growth initiatives such as our CGMP pharma facility that will start production this year.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

Demand for various types of film continues, still film, motion picture, NDT, film just not film. We do various types of film, continue to OEM film and make our own products. We continue to see growth and demand in that area. We're going to keep investing in that area. As I said earlier, we invested in expanding our capabilities and our capacity.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

And some really highlights, we and we just have to bring this up. Go to our motion picture film. Movies that were shot on Kodak film dominated the Oscars. Couple of examples are The Brutalist and The Nora. We want to thank the directors and the studios and the fans for continuing supporting the use of film and understand the true benefits that it brings to such a great art.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

Moving on to highlight from our Commercial Print division. We concluded the tariff petition process with the U. S. International Trade Commission, ITC. Our outcome established a level playing field and that's all we were asking for in the plates business in The United States.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

This is a big win for U. S. Manufacturing and again sets a level playing field when other governments are interfering in business and subsidizing other companies and giving them an advantage inside The U. S. That put U.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

S. Manufacturers out of business. We're the last standing plate manufacturer in The U. S. The other three are gone.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

And this tariff helps a level playing field be set. This is good for The United States Workers, this is good for our printers and this is good for America in general. Our Prosper 7,000 Turbo Press had a strong showing at the Hunkler Innovation Days trade show. Our Prosper 7,000 Turbo is the world's fastest inkjet press machine, 400 meters per minute to equate to thirteen forty five pages per minute. No one can reach those speeds and the quality levels that we hit.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

Some of the improvements in that 7,000 is upgradable. You can buy a 6,000 or we can upgrade it to a 7,000. So for the first time for Kodak, you don't need to buy a brand new machine. You can upgrade this machine up to 35% more speed for a minimal cost of your investment. That makes your capital expenditure a much better long term investment.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

You don't need to throw away 90% of the machine. You can simply make an upgrade to make it 35% faster. And lastly, but most important, we're now taking the 7,000 Turbo and the Prosper five twenty and taking it from controlled introduction to controlled production and we'll be releasing it commercially to various printers. In conclusion, something that's on everyone's mind, an update on Kodak's U. S.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

Pension plan. The Board has approved the termination of the Kodak retirement income plan known as CRIP, effective 03/31/2025. The process is underway to settle the pension obligations with participants and excess funds that will come back to the company. The company expects a significant portion of any reverted asset to be used to reduce long term debt and therefore the annual cost of servicing that long term debt. You can read additional information in our Form 10 K filing.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

I will now turn it over to Dave Bullwinkle to discuss the fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four financial results.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

Thanks, Jim, and good afternoon. Today, the company filed its Form 10 ks for the year ended 12/31/2024, with the Securities and Exchange Commission. As I always do, I recommend you read this filing in its entirety. Before I get into the details for the quarter and full year, I would like to provide a brief update on the U. S.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

Kodak Retirement Income Plan or CRIT. In a Form eight K filed with the SEC on 11/25/2024, we disclosed the Board of Directors of Eastman Kodak Company instructed the Committee with authority to manage CRIP's assets to take appropriate actions to position Crip for a potential termination. On 01/21/2025, Kodak's Board of Directors approved the termination of Crip, effective 03/31/2025. Following the determination and satisfaction of Crip's liabilities, Kodak should be entitled to a reversion of any remaining Crip assets subject to tax obligations and the funding of a new qualified defined benefit retirement plan for active employees as a replacement for Crip. The company expects a significant portion of any reverted assets to be used to reduce long term debt in accordance with the terms of our debt agreements and therefore the annual cost of servicing that debt will decline.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

The remaining reversion proceeds will be utilized to further the execution of the company's long term strategy. For further details on this topic, we will direct you to the liquidity portion of the MD and A section of the Form 10 K filed with the SEC today. I will now share details on the full company results, operational EBITDA and cash flow for the fourth quarter and full year of 2024. The company's results for 2024 were in line with our expectations and reflect the continued focus on executing against our priorities and long term plan, including driving smart revenue and aligning with the right customers, implementing pricing rationalization and cost reductions, launching new products and investing in innovation and information technology systems to increase our operational efficiency. On Slide seven, we reported revenues of $266,000,000 for the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four compared to $275,000,000 in the prior year quarter, reflecting a decrease of $9,000,000 or 3%.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

The rate of decline in revenue is slowing, which reflects our ongoing focus on driving smart revenue and strong profitability. We have also recognized improvements in gross profit for the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four, with an increase of $4,000,000 or 9% when compared to the prior year quarter. Gross profit for the current year quarter was unfavorably impacted by an inventory reserve adjustment of $4,000,000 in the electrophotographic printing business. Our gross profit percentage was 19% in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four compared to 17% in the prior year quarter. This improvement is a result of the actions our team has taken to mitigate the effects of the global economy to make our operations more efficient and to realize the value of our offerings.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

These actions have established positive momentum as we continue to drive profitable growth going forward. Foreign exchange did not impact gross profit in the current year quarter. On a U. S. GAAP basis, we reported net income of $26,000,000 for the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four compared to net income of $5,000,000 in the prior year quarter, an increase of $21,000,000 The 2024 and twenty twenty three fourth quarter results include income of $3,000,000 and expense of $2,000,000 respectively related to non cash changes in workers' compensation and employee benefit reserves and expense of $4,000,000 and $5,000,000 respectively related to asset impairments.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

Excluding these current and prior year quarter items, net income for 2024 was $27,000,000 compared to net income of $12,000,000 in the prior year quarter, reflecting an improvement of $15,000,000 Operational EBITDA for the quarter was $9,000,000 compared to $2,000,000 in the prior year quarter, reflecting an increase of $7,000,000 Excluding the impact of non cash changes in workers' compensation and employee benefit reserves in both the current and prior year quarters, operational EBITDA increased by $2,000,000 when compared to the prior year quarter. Foreign exchange had no impact on operational EBITDA in the current year quarter. Operational EBITDA for the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four was favorably impacted by price increases, improved operational efficiency from executing on cost controls and changes in employee benefit reserves, partially offset by an inventory reserve adjustment in our EPS business that I previously mentioned, higher aluminum costs and an increase in costs associated with certain litigation matters. Moving on to the company's fourth quarter cash performance presented on Slide eight. The company had a year end cash balance of $2.00 $1,000,000 compared with $214,000,000 at the end of the third quarter of twenty twenty four per decline of $13,000,000 from the prior period.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

The decline reflects our continued CapEx investments in supporting Advanced Materials and Chemicals growth initiatives along with building working capital in this business to allow us to supply customers as we make improvements in our manufacturing facilities. For the quarter ending 12/31/2024, cash provided by operating activities was $4,000,000 compared to $17,000,000 in the prior year quarter, reflecting a decline of $13,000,000 Current quarter cash provided by operating activities was primarily driven by the use of cash from net earnings of $10,000,000 and cash provided by balance sheet changes of $14,000,000 including a change in working capital of $15,000,000 and a decrease in other liabilities of $7,000,000 Cash provided by working capital was driven by actions taken to mitigate inflation and rising costs, including cost cutting efforts, improved inventory management and implementation of pricing actions. Cash used in investing activities was $17,000,000 in both the current year quarter and prior year period reflecting no change. This use primarily represents capital additions as the company invests in growth and increasing its manufacturing capacity in its Advanced Materials and Chemicals business. Cash used in financing activities was $2,000,000 for both the current year quarter and prior year period, also reflecting no change.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

Restricted cash decreased by $8,000,000 in the current year quarter compared to a $6,000,000 decrease in the prior year period, primarily driven by strategic efforts to reduce cash collateral and escrow requirements for certain company obligations and business arrangements. As presented on the bottom portion of the slide, excluding the changes in restricted cash for each period and the effects of foreign exchange, the quarter over quarter decrease in cash and cash equivalents for the three months ending 12/31/2024 was $11,000,000 On Slide nine, for the full year of 2024, the company had revenues of $1,043,000,000 compared to $1,117,000,000 in the prior year for a decline of $74,000,000 or 7%. Adjusting for the unfavorable impact of foreign exchange of $3,000,000 revenue declined by $71,000,000 or 6% compared to the prior year. Our full year revenue decline is impacted by revenue choices regarding our core business and portfolio of products and is in line with our expectations at this point in our long term plan. Gross profit for 2024 declined $7,000,000 or 3% when compared to the prior year.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

Foreign exchange did not impact gross profit in the current year. Gross profit for 2024 was unfavorably impacted by inventory reserve adjustments in the EPS business totaling $8,000,000 Gross profit percentage was 19% for the full year 2024, which is flat with the prior year. On a U. S. GAAP basis, we reported net income of $102,000,000 for 2024 compared to net income of $75,000,000 in 2023, an improvement of $27,000,000 or 36% from the prior year.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

2024 and 2023 results include income of $2,000,000 and $1,000,000 respectively, related to non cash changes in workers' compensation and employee benefit reserves, and expense of $4,000,000 and $5,000,000 respectively, related to asset impairments. The current year also includes a net gain on the sale of assets of $17,000,000 The 2023 results include expense of $2,000,000 related to changes in the fair value of embedded derivative liabilities and $27,000,000 for a loss on early extinguishment of debt resulting from a refinancing transaction as well as $9,000,000 for a refund from a non U. S. Governmental authority. Excluding the impact of these current and prior year items, the twenty twenty four adjusted net income was $87,000,000 compared to income of $99,000,000 in the prior year, reflecting a decline of $12,000,000 or 12%.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

Operational EBITDA for 2024 was $26,000,000 compared to $45,000,000 in 2023 for a decline of $19,000,000 or 42% from the prior year. Excluding the impact of non cash changes in workers' compensation and employee benefit reserves in 2024 and 2023, operational EBITDA decreased by $20,000,000 or 45 percent from the prior year. Foreign exchange did not impact operational EBITDA in the current year results. Operational EBITDA for 2024 was unfavorably impacted by lower volumes and higher aluminum costs, EPS business inventory reserve adjustments of $8,000,000 higher costs associated with investments in information technology systems and organizational structure of $5,000,000 and costs associated with the Drupa trade show and certain litigation matters totaling $10,000,000 partially offset by improved pricing, changes in employee benefit reserves and operational efficiencies. Moving on to the company's full year cash performance presented on Slide 10, the company ended 2024 with $2.00 $1,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents, a decrease of $54,000,000 from 12/31/2023.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

The decrease in cash was primarily driven by capital expenditures to fund growth initiatives in our AM and C business. Investments in technology systems and organizational structure and lower profitability from operations, partially offset by improvements in working capital, primarily due to cash proceeds of $40,000,000 from brand licensing received in January of twenty twenty four. During 2024, cash used in operating activities was $7,000,000 Current year cash used in operating activities was primarily driven by the use of cash from net earnings of $35,000,000 and by cash flow from balance sheet changes of $28,000,000 including an improvement in working capital of $41,000,000 and a decrease in other liabilities of $46,000,000 Within working capital, accounts payable decreased by $3,000,000 inventory increased by $7,000,000 and accounts receivable decreased by $51,000,000 The decrease in accounts receivable is primarily due to cash proceeds of $40,000,000 from brand licensing transactions received in January of twenty twenty four. Our team continues to focus on improving profitability and performance in working capital, which enhances the company's ability to generate cash. Cash from operating activities declined by $45,000,000 from the prior year, driven by a $34,000,000 year over year decrease in cash flow from net earnings and an $11,000,000 decrease in cash flow from balance sheet changes, including an improvement in working capital cash flows of $52,000,000 offset by a decrease in cash flows from liabilities excluding borrowings and trade payables of $67,000,000 primarily related to the recording of deferred revenue for brand licensing arrangements in 2023.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

Cash used in investing activities was $39,000,000 in the current year, an increase of $7,000,000 when compared primarily due to an increase in capital additions of $24,000,000 partially offset by proceeds from the sale of assets of $17,000,000 Cash used in financing activities was $23,000,000 in the current year compared to cash provided by financing activities of $85,000,000 in the prior year. This change was primarily driven by net proceeds of $90,000,000 received from refinancing transactions in the prior year and $17,000,000 related to the prepayment of the amended and restated term loan agreement made in 2024 from the proceeds received from the sale of assets within investing activities. Restricted cash at the end of the year was $100,000,000 a decrease of $22,000,000 from 12/31/2023, primarily driven by strategic efforts to reduce cash collateral and escrow requirements for certain company obligations and business arrangements. As a reminder, restricted cash primarily represents cash collateral supporting the company's undiscounted actuarial workers' compensation obligations with the New York State Workers' Compensation Board and cash collateral required on their letter of credit facility in addition to escrows to secure various ongoing obligations. We continue to focus on opportunities to reduce restrictions on cash.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

As presented on the bottom portion of the slide, excluding the changes in restricted cash for each period, the impact of net proceeds from a refinancing transaction and the receipt of a refund from a non U. S. Governmental authority in the prior year along with the current year effect of exchange rates on cash, year over year decrease in cash and cash equivalents was $45,000,000 As stated earlier in my remarks, the company's financial results are within our expectations at this point in our long term strategy. We will continue to focus on maintaining the strength of the foundation we have worked hard to create, which provides us the opportunity to fund our ongoing operations, invest in our growth initiatives and convert our historical investments into returns for the long term. Finally, as disclosed in our Form 10 ks, we remain in compliance with all applicable financial covenants.

[David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP at Eastman Kodak Company]

I will now turn the discussion back to Jim. Thank you.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

Thank you, Dave. In summary, we continue to manage through uncertainty. We are investing in growth and shutting non profit and non strategic businesses. Seeing the growth in both revenue and profits in our AM and C business is very encouraging. Plates tariff will create a level playing field in The United States and certainty in the markets.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

Accessing the excess assets in the company's pension fund will help delever the business, strengthening our balance sheet, allowing more opportunity to invest in growth businesses. Let's be clear at Kodak. We care for our customers. We put them first. We also care for our employees.

[James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO at Eastman Kodak Company]

This is a great place to work and is a great place to be a customer and a partner. We do our best to innovate products that they ask for that help drive their business, make them more efficient, more profitable and grow their revenue. I'd like to thank our customers, our employees, our leadership team and our board and investors for all of their loyalty and support. Thank you very much. Have a good night.

[Operator]

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.

Participants

Executives

• Anthony Redding, Chief Audit Executive, Chief Compliance Officer, & Director of Investor Relations (Interim)
• James Continenza, Executive Chairman & CEO
• David Bullwinkle, CFO & Senior VP