Serve Robotics Q4 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Thank you for standing by. My name is Danielle, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Fourth Quarter and Full Year twenty twenty four Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.

Operator

Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Aduki Thalwal. Please go ahead.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Servrobotics' fourth quarter and full year twenty twenty four conference call. With me today are Cerf's CEO and Co Founder, Ali Kashani and our CFO, Brian Reed. During today's call, we may present both GAAP and non GAAP financial measures. If needed, a reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release filed earlier today.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Certain statements in this call are forward looking statements. You should not place undue reliance on forward looking statements. Actual risks may differ materially from these forward looking statements, and we do not undertake any obligation to update any forward looking statements we make today, except as required by law. For more information about factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from forward looking statements, please refer to the press release we issued today as well as the risks and uncertainties described in our most recent Form 10 K and in other filings made with the SEC. We published our quarterly financial press release and our updated corporate presentation to our investor website earlier this afternoon.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

We ask you to review those documents if you haven't already. With that, let me hand it over to Ali.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Thank you, Abhukay. We got a lot to cover today. I'm going to start by giving an update about the past quarter and put that in the context of our progress over the year 2024. And then we will talk about the year ahead, give you some additional details about our plans to deploy 2,000 robots by the end of twenty twenty five, which remains on track. And then lastly, I want to talk a little bit about the recent progress in AI and how serve fits into that.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

So let me start with five quick highlights before we dive into each one of them. First, revenue. We wrapped up the year with $1,800,000 in revenue, which is a 700% increase year over year. Second, our reach. We increased the number of restaurants we serve by 3x last year and also increased the households we reach by over 2x just in the last four months.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

We did all this by expanding to new neighborhoods in LA and expanding to our first East Coast city, which is Miami. Third, the fleet. We are about to complete building two fifty third gen robots to add to our fleet. Fourth, an engineering update. We have designed further cost reductions into our third generation robots, effectively cutting the cost of building robots by two thirds in just a year.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

And last but not least, our balance sheet. We massively improved our cash position, became debt free and increased our capital efficiency by saving $20,000,000 in future capital costs, which Brian will discuss later. Now let's dive in. As you can see, we've been growing fast on all fronts, expanding into new neighborhoods and cities, onboarding more restaurants, scaling our fleet. In LA, we launched in Downtown, Sawtell and Westwood just in November, instantly increasing our household reach by 50% and tripling the number of restaurants we serve compared to the start of the year.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

We also didn't stop there. Since January, we added Glendale and Long Beach. Plus, we also expanded beyond California for the first time to Miami. Today, we support over 1,000 restaurants and reach over 300,000 households. That's a 2x expansion in market reach in just a few months.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

We are continuing to work with our delivery partners and local merchants and municipalities to unlock even more neighborhoods and cities throughout the year. On the fleet side, in Q4, we completed the design of our our third generation robots and even manufactured 75 units in the final days of December ahead of schedule. These are the first production batch of third generation robots and we've been ramping them up into the delivery fleets since the New Year. So we expect the impacts on delivery volume to really start showing in Q1 and Q2. Despite the fact that our delivery fleet didn't expand until the very end of Q4, our Gen two robots have actually delivered 20% more orders quarter over quarter.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

And this is primarily because of optimizing our operation and expanding our reach. This is true even though we actually had to use some of the existing fleet to support the expansion activities like sending robots to new neighborhoods and cities to map and collect data. So we were actually reducing our delivery fleet size and yet we achieved 20% increase in our delivery output quarter over quarter. If you look at our daily active robots and daily supply hours, their numbers have remained roughly the same as Q3 since we did not expand the fleet until the very end of Q4 last year. We had 57 daily active robots in Q4, up 81% from 29 robots in Q4 of twenty twenty three.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

And comparable to Q3's '50 '9 robots, the slight difference here being because we were using some of our robots for expansion activities rather than deliveries. Similarly, we had four fifty five daily supply hours, which was in line with four sixty five hours from Q3 and nearly double Q4 twenty twenty three. So let's take a step back and look at the entire 2024, which was a truly transformational year for us. We listed on NASDAQ, raised over $250,000,000 from the beginning of 2024 to today to really strengthen our balance sheet. We partnered with Magna International to scale our fleet manufacturing reliably.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

And we also formed new partnerships, including Shake Shack and Wing. And we doubled our supply hours and active robot capacity and volume. And we completed our Gen three robot design, which can move twice as fast, go twice as far, have five times more brainpower and cost about one third of our previous generation robots. And we built a first batch of those Gen three robots ahead of schedule at the end of last year. Now behind the scene, there was even more going on.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

We've actually boosted the speed of our robots by 30% last year and we cut our missed delivery deadline rates by 75%. We did that all the while doubling our delivery volume. I'm proud of what our team has accomplished over the last year. And I think it's positioning us really well to achieve what we are set out to do in 2025, which is deploy 2,000 of our robots. We are really entering this year with strong momentum.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

So let's talk about 2025 starting with the first half of the year. We've started by accelerating our expansion timeline by entering Miami ahead of schedule in Q1. Dallas remains on track for Q2, which is what we promised. And I can announce that we have a plan to launch a third market in Q2. So let's go through this one by one.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

First, Miami. In February, we launched in two neighborhoods, Brickell and Miami Beach in collaboration with Uber Eats. We are now serving 50 local restaurants already. This includes two important brands who signed with us right at launch, our existing partner Shake Shack and our new partner, the beloved local pizzeria, Mr. O'One.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

This news may come as a bit of a surprise since we haven't shared any plans to launch Miami in Q1, but we did see a demand from our partners and decided to take the opportunity and move quickly. Next up is Dallas. We are on track to launch in Q2, bringing our robots to neighborhoods like Uptown and State Thomas. We also expect the first deployment of our Wing partnership for multimodal robot to drone deliveries to take place once we launch there. Last but not least, I'm excited to share that we are bringing serve robots to Atlanta in Q2.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

This is another great city because it has dense commercial and residential neighborhoods, really good walkability and mixed use developments and a thriving restaurant scene. We're really hopeful that as we scale in Atlanta, our robots are going to actually help reduce the grid like traffic there and improve congestion by taking these short distance deliveries off the street. Beyond these new three cities, we plan to bring several robots to more cities by the end of the year and we will announce additional details and dates as we work with our partners and local officials to finalize the plan. In terms of the fleet size, I can confirm that we are working to build a two fifty Gentry robot that we had shared earlier by the end of this quarter. So we've already built 75, more of them are now in process.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

We are also currently ramping up those 75 robots into our delivery fleet. And we expect that all these two fifty robots would be fully deployed and in deliveries by the end of Q2. So the real volume impact that we expect to see from these robots are going to be seen mostly in the second quarter. As is typical with new hardware rollouts, we will have to deal with hardware and software adjustments, any kinks that we need to figure out. So to really bring these robots to true productivity is going to take a few weeks of effort.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

These two fifty robots are really meant to provide us valuable insights before we get to the larger scale up that we are going to have in the second half of the year. So beyond Q1, I have another important update for the additional rollouts. I'm very excited to share that we've achieved another 30% cost reduction in our next batch of Gen three robots compared to the current batch we're building. So if you recall, our current batch had a 50% cost reduction compared to the previous generation robots. This is something we announced back in October, but the following batches are going to be even 30% cheaper than the current batch.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

So in total, that means that our Gen three robots that we are building later this year are going to be 35% of the cost of our Gen two robots, almost a third. This is a result of a very aggressive focus on our profitability goals. And I'm very proud of what the team has achieved in a few short months as we prepare to scale up. This basically means that the rest of the 2,000 robots after the two fifty we are building this quarter are going to be the cheaper new robots. And we are on track to build them in the second half of the year at a cost that would be millions of dollars less as a result of this cost down.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Our plan is to build 700 of these new lower cost robots in Q3 and then the rest of them in Q4. We're going to share more updates obviously as we go through and get closer to these dates. A lot of the work we are doing this quarter and next quarter is really preparation for a big scale up in the second half of the year. I mentioned the additional robot cost reduction as an example, but there is a lot more effort that's going into hiring and training staff, preparing internal tools and operating procedures, working with our partners and municipalities, sending robots and staff to map and collect data and run tests in new cities and neighborhoods, etcetera. So our number one priority in the first half of the year is getting ready for the second half of the year rather than any short term targets.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

So I expect we see volume growth and revenue growth in Q1 and Q2, but mainly as an outcome of the work we are doing to prepare for that big growth push for the second half. Now on top of those efforts I mentioned, we are also trying to build redundancy in our plans. We want to make sure that we have layers of contingency in place just in case unexpected things happen, whether it's government dynamics changing or the shipping delays or any factors outside of our control that could threaten our timelines in a given market. We want to have additional options such as going deeper in given cities like LA and Miami, both of which have significant demand for us to meet. So the plan for 2025 is really build the rest of the two fifty robots in this quarter, have them all fully deployed by the end of next quarter so that we can learn from them, build the rest of the 2,000 robots in the second half of the year at a cost that would be about 30% less than the current robot cost and simultaneously launch Dallas in Q2 followed by Atlanta and add additional cities after that.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

And in order to make sure we successfully accomplish all of this, spend the first half of the year really preparing for the second half scale up and design redundancy into our plans so that we are ready for the inevitability of unknown unknowns. Okay. With 2024 and 2025 plans out of the way, I want to spend a few minutes talking about the recent advances in AI and how that impacts SERFF. AI is really advancing at a breakneck speed, cheaper training, faster inference, open source models like DeepSeek, you name it. For us, this is all tailwind.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Right now, everyone and their grandma is racing to build AI models and infrastructure, which naturally results in commoditization. Our view is that a lot of the value from AI will accrue to the application layer, where the same kind of race to the bottom is less common. Also, thanks to this proprietary data and domain expertise that you have in the application layer, you can create more efficient modes. If as part of running your business, you accumulate unique data, you can train your AI to get better, which makes your products better, which helps you scale more, which means you get even more data. You can collect this data at lower and lower cost, eventually even while making a profit.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

So this flywheel really gets going and it becomes harder and harder for new entrants to compete with you. Serve is a great example of this. Our robots they're an application layer on top of AI. They are really AI embodied. They collect a terabyte of data each per day.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

And that data helps make our AI and autonomy better, which leads to even better robots, which leads to even more scale and therefore more data. So you see where this goes. This flywheel really gets going. I don't really see any evidence today of a plateau in AI progress, but I do expect that it's inevitable that at some point, we would follow the classic hype cycle, which is folks get ahead of their skis and then pull back. I've always had this aversion to running a business on hype.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

So the way we like to operate in this kind of cyclical environment is by really focusing on first principles. What do we believe to be true regardless of what the current thing is? I believe there are three fundamental truths that are relevant to serve. First, machines can now comprehend and communicate with us. It used to be that you had to say specific magic words to get machines to react, but now you can hold natural conversations in almost any language.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Second, machines can now generalize. We used to train AI for very narrow tasks. Any problem had to be broken down to a small list of tasks to train very specific AI models for. This really limited how much we can bring AI into the physical world because it has so much complexity and randomness. But now, thanks to transformers, we can train machines that develop their own complex internal world models.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

This leads them to exhibit and measure behaviors that you weren't expecting when you were actually training them. And that makes them a lot more suitable for this unpredictability of the physical world. And third and last is the inevitable fact that AI is going to enter our physical spaces. Limiting AI to the digital realm really limits its potential. So we are going to see these new thinking machines of ours enter our physical spaces as well to make our lives better.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

And I believe the time for this transition is now. Now that the machines can finally talk to us and now that they can understand our messy physical world, we are finally in a position to really realize our robot dreams. Robotics is really one of the most important natural endpoints of AI progress. What's unique about robots as an application of AI is that while software gets commoditized, hardware is hardware. Robots are great example of how value can accrue to the application layer because it takes years to build that hardware and it's expensive.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

It scares a lot of new entrants. And existing players enjoy the benefits of economy of scale as they progress. And of course, robots organically collect a ton of application specific and proprietary data, which is otherwise very hard to obtain. And this really feeds that data flywheel. Needless to say, this is exactly the thesis that we built several rounds from the beginning.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

We've been engineering our unique domain specific hardware and software and we've been collecting petabytes of data for years already. So we are in a really fortunate position right now to take advantage of this very historic moment that's taking place in front of us.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

So with that, I'll hand over to Brian to walk you through our financials. Thanks, Ali, and good afternoon, everyone. 2024 was a defining year for Cerf. Over the past twelve months, we strengthened our financial position, scaled our operations and set the stage for a transformational 2025. We are working hard to support the planned expansion of our business to 2,000 robots before the end of the year, while at the same time remaining disciplined with our cash to improve financial flexibility.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

Today, I'll walk you through the financial results and provide insight into the year ahead. As you know, our business is still in its early innings. Revenue for 2024 reached $1,800,000 with Q4 contributing $176,000 This marks over 700% growth year over year demonstrating the increasing adoption of our technology and services. A significant driver of this growth was the addition of $1,200,000 in software services booked in 2024, alongside a 227% increase in annual delivery and branding revenue, which despite no new robots being deployed until the final days of the fourth quarter grew 435,000 to reach 627,000 in 2024. On a sequential basis, when adjusting for $26,000 in non recurring pilot program delivery revenue reported in Q3, our quarter over quarter delivery and branding revenue grew by 12%.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

As Ali mentioned, last quarter's volume growth reflects higher utilization across our fleet and improved operational efficiencies. 2024 gross margin improved significantly from negative 700 in 2023 to negative four percent in 2024, reflecting increased fleet efficiency and a more favorable revenue mix from the high margin nature of our software services. Within delivery and branding, gross margins expanded 76% year over year, driven by fleet utilization improvements and ongoing progress in the unit economics per delivery. In terms of Q4 gross margin, cost of sales increased in Q4 as the fixed cost base expanded from the ramp up of our 2,000 unit fleet. As fleet utilization and delivery hours improve, the portion of cost allocated into COGS in our P and L will adjust accordingly.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

Total GAAP operating expenses for 2024 were $38,200,000 increasing from $19,200,000 in the prior year. This reflects increased personnel, software development and fleet expansion costs. On a non GAAP basis, 2024 operating expenses were $23,700,000 compared to $18,700,000 in the prior year. Breaking this down further for 2024, R and D expenses were the largest driver of our cost structure, totaling $24,300,000 on a GAAP basis, up from 9,900,000 in the prior year, driven by $11,500,000 of stock based compensation. On a non GAAP basis, R and D spend was $12,800,000 compared to $9,500,000 for the prior year.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

This increase aligns with our ongoing investment in fleet scaling, next gen hardware and autonomous capabilities. General and administrative expenses totaled $10,100,000 increasing from $4,600,000 in the prior year. The primary driver here was stock based compensation expense, infrastructure investments as we strengthen our internal systems and governance and headcount expansion. On a non GAAP basis, G and A expense was $7,300,000 For our fourth quarter, total GAAP operating expenses were $12,900,000 increasing from $8,300,000 in Q3 and $6,500,000 in Q4 of the prior year. On a non GAAP basis, Q4 operating expenses were $8,400,000 compared to $6,100,000 in Q3 and $6,200,000 in Q4 last year, which compared with a doubling of delivery volume demonstrates our continued discipline in managing core expenses.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

Breaking down Q4 further, R and D expenses remain the largest driver, totaling $6,800,000 on a GAAP basis, up from $5,000,000 in Q3 and $2,800,000 in Q4 last year. On a non GAAP basis, R and D spend was $4,400,000 compared to $3,300,000 in Q3 and $2,600,000 in Q4 last year, reflecting controlled resource growth while ensuring continued innovation. General and administrative expenses totaled $5,200,000 increasing from $2,000,000 in Q3 and $1,200,000 in Q4 last year. On a non GAAP basis, G and A expense was $3,000,000 compared to $1,600,000 in Q3 and $1,200,000 in Q4 last year, reflecting a more normalized run rate. Our GAAP net loss for 2024 was $39,200,000 compared to $24,900,000 in 2023.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

Q4 GAAP net loss was $13,100,000 compared to $8,000,000 in Q3 and $7,100,000 in the same period last year. The sequential and year over year increase reflects higher operating expenses tied to investments in R and D and corporate infrastructure as we scale for broader commercialization. On a non GAAP basis, our net loss for 2024 was $24,600,000 dollars with the fourth quarter being $8,600,000 We ended the fourth quarter with a robust cash position of $123,000,000 Since January 2024, we've raised over $250,000,000 significantly improving our financial flexibility. During the fourth quarter twenty twenty four, we received $80,000,000 in proceeds under our previously filed ATM facility at a weighted average price of $14.04 Following the end of the year, we completed an $80,000,000 registered direct offering at a $19 price per share with institutional investors. Due to our strong cash position, we no longer anticipate funding of our 2,000 robot fleet through equipment financing.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

This results in cash savings over the next two years of approximately $20,000,000 due to the removal of interest and buyout purchase options. Earlier today, as part of our disciplined approach to capital management, we established a new shelf registration and an at the market equity program, which remains subject to SEC review. As we just reviewed, serve as fortunate to have a strong cash balance to support our growth. So we do not have plans to raise additional capital in the near term. This new structure is meant to provide us with continued flexibility to act opportunistically, whether it is to fund additional fleet expansion or capitalize if and when opportunities are presented.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

We believe we successfully utilized this approach in December to strengthen our balance sheet while carefully managing dilution. As a result, our enhanced liquidity position provides us the ability to operate the business from a position of strength. Looking forward to 2025, we are focused on scaling our fleet to expand top line revenue and strengthen our margins. We remain on track to deploy 2,000 robots by year end 2025. After working hard to lower the cost of our robot by another 30% over and above our previous 50% cost reduction, the fleet rollout will accelerate in the second half of the year with at least 700 reduced cost Gen three robots built in Q3 and the remainder built in Q4.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

First quarter '20 '20 '5 deliveries are on pace to exceed Q4 even as we focus on operational readiness for the second half scale up. Software revenue remains non recurring and our long term revenue model remains focused on building and deploying 2,000 robots targeting $60,000,000 to $80,000,000 in annualized revenue once the fleet reaches full utilization estimated in 2026. As you would expect, we are planning for increased capital expenditures during 2025 with investments in tooling, expansion costs and fleet build out being thoughtfully sequenced. Our current cash position following the January offering and debt free balance sheet give us the ability to execute our business plan from a position of strength. Estimated shares outstanding as of today are approximately 57,000,000 shares.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

Last, I am pleased to announce that our Audit Committee has approved the transition to PricewaterhouseCoopers as our independent auditor, replacing DBB McKinnon following the completion of our 2024 audit. The Audit Committee's appointment of PwC, a firm with a global reputation for auditing, tax and financial services, reflects the company's commitment to maintaining robust financial oversight and corporate governance. We sincerely thank DBV McKinnon for their partnership and contributions to serve over the past several years. During 2025, we will be investing in ERP upgrades and data transformation initiatives to further strengthen internal controls and enhance operational efficiency, further reinforcing our commitment to financial discipline and scalability. In closing, we ended 2024 with our strongest cash position ever, and we will continue to remain disciplined in managing core expenses.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

2025 will be focused on executing our expansion into new neighborhoods and cities, onboarding more restaurants and scaling our fleet. With that, let me turn it back to Adeke for Q and A.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Thank you, Ali and Brian for those detailed updates. We'll now transition to the Q and A session. First, I'd like to express our gratitude to all the investors and analysts who submitted questions over email. We really appreciate your engagement. Our first question, I think this might be appropriate for Ali.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

You mentioned that robot costs have been lowered. Does this mean you removed technology or made major component changes? How was this cost reduction achieved?

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Thank you. That's a great question. We did not remove any technologies or capabilities or components. This was primarily done because of improvements to our supply chain, an area that we've been investing in a lot internally. There are benefits from scale that we are now enjoying.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

There are, for example, suppliers, Tier two suppliers, we've now upgraded to Tier one. We're getting better cost components. I can think of components that are 70% cheaper now than they used to be. So I generally expect to continue this process of making design improvements, improving our supply chain and by increasing scale, getting additional benefits from that to see the cost of the robots come down over time.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Okay, thanks. This next question was submitted via email. Can you say why you focused on the second half for the robot rollout?

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Yes, absolutely. We want to do the scale up thoughtfully and in a measured way where we are cost efficient. So this quarter, building two fifty robots effectively means that we are tripling our fleet size. Again, in Q3, when we build another 700, another tripling of the fleet size. The point of this process is to do it gradually, so we learn, we fix things along the way, we reduce costs, just as I mentioned with the hardware, for example, so that we can again, as I said at the beginning, do this in a cost efficient and thoughtful way as we scale.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Perfect. This next question we received from a number of people, but most notably Glenn Madison at Ladenburg. Can you comment on recent developments with NVIDIA? Ali, do you want to say that one?

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Yes, absolutely. What developments? We have really no ability to comment on NVIDIA's behalf. I want to be clear on that. But I do want to emphasize a couple of things.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

NVIDIA isn't really privy to any material confidential information about Cerve or vice versa. They invested in Cerve in 2021, '20 '20 '2, '20 '20 '3 and 2024, right before our IPO. And that's when we were a private company and they exited that position when we became a public company. What's most important, what I can comment on is that they remain a key partner for us on the technology side. That partnership has not changed.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Our robots continue to use their technology. Even the robots we are building later this year are using those NVIDIA chips. So we are continuing to work together and that hasn't changed.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Okay. Thank you. Next question. In recent weeks, you've learned we've learned more about planned policy changes and tariff introductions. Do you anticipate any impact on your operations?

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Brian, do you want to take this one?

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

Sure. Thanks for the question. So obviously, we're monitoring developments on a daily basis to understand what the impact is going to be. The bottom line is right now, we don't anticipate any material impact to our operations. We have a global supply chain and hardware team who are working to diversify the supply chain.

Brian Read
Brian Read
CFO at Serve Robotics

We have some exposure in China, but that's going to be an immaterial impact when we think about our country of origin for the parts that we're getting. And I think really importantly, like we talked about on the call is we're seeing further cost reductions throughout this year for the remainder of the fleet. So hopefully, should policy changes come in that will impact us, we would be able to offset those with some of the additional reductions in this year.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Okay, perfect. Next question comes from Mike Latimore at Northland. We've seen that there were recent wildfires in LA, Any impact on serve? Will this slow usage or rollout plan in new neighborhood?

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Can take this one. Yes. No, there wasn't any impact to our rollout plan. We had a few team members who had to unfortunately deal with evacuations. We experienced a few days of lower volume than usual.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

But compared to the impact to the broader L. A. Community, the impact to us was very minimal and brief.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Okay. Thank you. Next question is from Aaron Kessler at Seaport. Can you give an update on the Vibu acquisition?

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

I can do that. Yes. We had some issues on the closing conditions right now. So the deal has been on somewhat of a pause until we work that out. The discussions continue.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Hard to say where it would end up, but it's not a material transaction. But if any updates come up, we would share that with everyone.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Okay. Thank you. Follow-up question, Ali. How are things going in Miami?

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Things are going great. Actually, we are seeing good utilization of the robots. We have 50 restaurants already on boarded. The growth is looking to be on the right track. We are excited to expand further there.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

In fact, in some of our key delivery metrics, we are ahead of schedule. So overall, I would say, we are very happy with what we are seeing and we are going to continue to collect data there to improve our models and our operation overall. And as we do, we are going to scale the size of the robots further.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Okay. Thank you. Our next question is from Mike Latimore at Northland. Can you provide any updates on the Gen three robots performance? Are there any early insights available on how well the new hardware is working in the new market?

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Yes, I'm happy to do that. The robots are looking great compared to a similar timeframe of the previous generation robots. They're performing much better. We are obviously rolling them out in stages so that we can learn and detect any problems and put them really through their paces before we scale even further. The most important achievement we needed in Gentry Robotics was the ability to scale them efficiently and quickly.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

The manufacturing had to be scaled efficiently and quickly. And we are very happy with that manufacturing process. So the early results are positive and we're going to keep learning and improving.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Okay. And this is our final question. It comes from Mike Latimore at Northland. What are your expectations now for 2026 and beyond? Do you still think the market can absorb as many of your robots as you can produce and optimize?

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Ali, do you want to take that one?

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

Yes. Absolutely. Yes. We do believe we see a strong demand for the robots, both in the existing markets, as well as in new cities and even new countries. Ultimately, we really believe that the significant cost reduction in last mile delivery will keep even accelerating the rate of growth that already exists in demand for last mile.

Ali Kashani
Ali Kashani
Co-Founder & CEO at Serve Robotics

And that means there's going to always be demand for these robots.

Aduke Thelwell
Aduke Thelwell
Head of IR & Communications at Serve Robotics

Okay. That's all our questions for today. So thank you for participating and I'll turn it back to the operator.

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may now disconnect.

Executives
    • Aduke Thelwell
      Aduke Thelwell
      Head of IR & Communications
    • Ali Kashani
      Ali Kashani
      Co-Founder & CEO
    • Brian Read
      Brian Read
      CFO
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