Dolby Laboratories Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Dolby Laboratories Conference Call discussing Second Quarter Fiscal Year twenty twenty five Results. The presentation, all participants will be in a listen only mode. As a reminder, this call is being recorded, Thursday, 05/01/2025. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr.

Operator

Peter Goldbacher, Vice President of Investor Relations. Peter, please go ahead.

Peter Goldmacher
Peter Goldmacher
VP & Investor Relations at Dolby Laboratories

Good afternoon. Welcome to Dolby Laboratories' second quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. Joining me today are Kevin Yeaman, Dolby Laboratories' CEO and Robert Park, our CFO. As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward looking statements, including our fiscal twenty twenty five third quarter and full year outlook and our assumptions underlying that outlook. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the statements made today, including, among other things, the impact of macroeconomic events, supply chain issues, tariffs and other trade barriers, inflation rates, changes in consumer spending and geopolitical instability on our business.

Peter Goldmacher
Peter Goldmacher
VP & Investor Relations at Dolby Laboratories

A discussion of these and additional risks and uncertainties can be found in our earnings press release that we issued today under the section captioned Forward Looking Statements as well as in the Risk Factors section of our most recent quarterly report on Form 10 Q. Dolby assumes no obligation and does not intend to update any forward looking statements made during this call as a result of new information or future events. During today's call, we will discuss non GAAP financial measures and a reconciliation between GAAP and non GAAP financial measures is available in our earnings press release and in the Interactive Analyst Center on the Investor Relations section of our website. With that, I'd like

Peter Goldmacher
Peter Goldmacher
VP & Investor Relations at Dolby Laboratories

to turn the call over to Kevin.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

Thanks, Peter, and thanks to everyone for joining us on our second quarter FY 'twenty five earnings call. In the second quarter, both licensing revenue and total revenue came in at the midpoint of the range of guidance we provided on our last earnings call and non GAAP earnings for the quarter came in at the high end of the range. As we approach the end of the quarter, all indications were that we were on track to be at or above the midpoint of our revenue guidance for the full year. As we speak today, there is of course a significant amount of uncertainty in the macroeconomic environment.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

We don't have the degree of visibility that we normally have as we develop our outlook for the remainder of the year. Given the variability and potential outcomes, we are revising our revenue range from 1,330,000,000 to $1,390,000,000 to a range of $1,310,000,000 to $1,380,000,000 for the year. Our current assessment based on limited data points is that we are likely to experience slight headwinds as a result of the macroeconomic environment. This could change quickly, and there are a broad range of scenarios based on how things evolve going forward. On the one hand, if we see progress in trade deals and increasing clarity in the macro environment, we could be at the mid to high end of this range.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

On the other hand, if lack of certainty drags on or even escalates further, that would point to the mid to low end of our range. We are monitoring the situation closely, and Robert will walk you through the details on these numbers in a few minutes. In the meantime, we are staying focused on the things that drive growth in the long term. We continue to have strong engagement across our broad ecosystem of content creators, distributors and OEM partners, and we are performing well on the partnerships that drive growth by bringing more Dolby experiences to more people around the world. I'd like to spend a few minutes on some highlights in the quarter, starting with automotive.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

We continue to see high demand for raising the bar on the quality of the in car entertainment experience. This quarter, Porsche announced that Dolby Atmos will be available in the 2026 Taycan, Panamera, Cayenne and nine eleven models. And Cadillac announced that it will include Dolby Atmos throughout its entire twenty twenty six lineup of EVs. Also, Volvo, Xiaomi and Hyundai all announced new models coming to market. Additionally, two more auto manufacturers, NIO and Zeeker, have decided to deploy Dolby Vision for a total of three brands and nine car models offering Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

Automotive is an increasingly important part of our business, and the momentum continues to build. In mobile, we are focusing on bringing the Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision experience to all the ways that consumers enjoy content on their smartphones. User generated content, primarily on social media and short form video platforms, represent an important opportunity for us to drive further adoption of Dolby Vision into the mobile phone market. Apple has supported Dolby Vision and Dolby Vision Capture across its iPhone lineup for a while and we continue to make progress in expanding Dolby Vision into the Android device ecosystem. In China, where we already have strong adoption across social media and video sharing services, we added two new partners.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

Xiaohongshu, also known as Rednote, is a Chinese social media platform and an ecommerce marketplace primarily focused on lifestyle, beauty, fashion, and travel. And Kuaishou is a popular Chinese social media platform specializing in short form video content similar to TikTok. We are also seeing increased support across popular video editing apps, reflecting increased interest in Dolby Vision for user generated content. Filmora has announced plans to support Dolby Vision and CapCut, which currently supports Dolby Vision for iOS, is expanding its support to include Android. This ecosystem support is an important part of the virtuous cycle that drives OEMs to adopt Dolby Vision deeper into their device lineups.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

Earlier this year, Oppo launched its first Android device with Dolby Vision capture as the default mode and about a month ago added three more phones and a tablet with Dolby Vision capture and playback. Realme and Xiaomi also launched new models that support Dolby Vision. We are focused on working with these partners to expand Dolby Vision deeper into their lineups and on expanding our presence with global social media and video sharing platforms. Moving on to the living room and the TV ecosystem, we continue to focus on bringing Dolby to more content and more devices. This past quarter, both the Super Bowl and March Madness were available in Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision, continuing our momentum in sports.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

Waipu TV, the market leader in IPTV in Germany, announced support for Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision. And TOD, the leading streaming platform for sports and entertainment in The Middle East and North Africa, launched a four ks set top box with Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision. More content in Dolby gives consumers a reason to upgrade their TVs and more reasons for OEMs to adopt Dolby further into their lineups. This quarter in The UK, Sky released the popular Sky Glass Gen two TV with Dolby Vision and a Dolby Atmos soundbar built into the TV. Also LG, Sharp and Hisense all announced new TV models with Dolby Vision.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

And a quick update on cinema. Filmmakers, studios and moviegoers all value a premium movie experience and exhibitors are focusing their investment dollars on rolling out more high end theaters, are garnering a higher share of the box office. At CinemaCon, we announced that AMC and Dolby will add an additional 40 Dolby Cinemas at AMC locations in The United States through the end of twenty twenty seven. We've also announced that we will be adding Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos to theaters in India this year, beginning with six exhibitors in major cities, and we also added a handful of new Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision theaters in South Korea. Stepping back, while there's uncertainty in the economic environment, we had a strong quarter and we had great wins across our main focus areas.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

We are well prepared to operate across a wide range of scenarios and we are in a solid financial position. We continue to have strong engagement from content creators, distributors and our OEM partners across our ecosystems, and we will remain focused on the things that we can control and that drive long term growth. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Robert to discuss the financials in more detail.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

Thanks, Kevin, and good afternoon to everyone on the call. Before we get into the details, I'd like to point out three important takeaways. First, Q2 revenue came in at the midpoint of the range and earnings came in at the high end of the range we communicated last quarter. Second, we are adjusting the full year revenue range to reflect the current environment, and I'll give you some color on that. And third, Dolby is a durable business.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

We have strong financial fundamentals, and we've successfully navigated difficult times before. With that as a backdrop, let's get into the details. Q2 revenue was $370,000,000 in line with the midpoint of guidance and up 1% year over year. And license revenue of $346,000,000 was up 2% year over year. Products and services revenue was $24,000,000 slightly below the midpoint of guidance and down 10% year over year.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

Detailed licensing performance by end market is on our IR website. And as a reminder, timing of recoveries, minimum volume commitments and true ups can drive volatility between quarters. In Q2, these timing factors contributed to an 11% decline in Broadcast and a 17% increase in PC revenue on a year over year basis. For the full year, we still expect strong growth in mobile and other markets, broadcast and PC to be flattish and CE to be down mid single digits. Moving on to the bottom line.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

In Q2, we earned $1.34 per diluted share on a non GAAP basis, up 5% year over year and at the high end of our guidance, largely due to some OpEx spend that was pushed out to the second half. We generated $175,000,000 in operating cash flow and finished the quarter with $7.00 $1,000,000 in cash and investments. We repurchased $35,000,000 worth of common stock and have about $352,000,000 remaining on our repurchase plan authorization. We declared a $0.33 dividend, up 10% from our dividend a year ago. Now I'd like to turn my comments to how we're thinking about Q3 and the full year.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

To reiterate some of the important context Kevin shared with you in his opening comments, the lack of visibility brought about by the current economic situation has limited our ability to forecast the business with the degree of precision we are used to. There are a wider range of scenarios in front of us than there usually are at this point in the year. So we have adjusted our revenue outlook to reflect this. Let me walk you through this in a little more detail. The outlook for consumer spending on devices is a key factor in our forecast.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

It is difficult to make general statements about the impact of any broad based weakness in the economy on our overall business or how the uncertainty will affect consumer spending on devices for the remainder of the year. Even if we make high level assumptions about potential impacts of the macro environment on device shipments, the details matter. For example, which types of devices are most impacted, which Dolby technologies are on these devices and are high end or low end devices being disproportionately affected? These are just some of the many factors that could impact our revenue. With that in mind and to help you think about potential scenarios for the second half of the year, we estimate that if there were a 5% change in overall device shipments for the remainder of the year, it could have an approximate impact on our revenue of roughly 2% to 4% or $15,000,000 to $25,000,000 for the remainder of this year.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

As a reminder, most of our licensing revenue is based on unit shipments. In general, we estimate revenues from unit shipments each quarter and trued up the following quarter based on actual reported shipments from our partners. Our royalty reporting is generally about one quarter in arrears because device shipment data is not real time. I would also like to share a few more endpoint specific factors to keep in mind as the macroeconomic situation evolves. Mobile tends to have a higher concentration of minimum volume commitments, so it is less sensitive to near term changes in device shipments relative to, say, broadcast, PC or CEN markets.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

We are still in early days in the opportunity for auto, And currently, the majority of our auto revenue is from non U. S. OEMs shipping to non U. S. Markets.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

The last point I'd like to make is that as you think about the impact of U. S. Trade deals, we estimate that approximately 25% of our licensing revenues from consumer device shipments are from those sold into The U. S. These are some of the things to keep in mind as the environment continues to evolve.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

Now moving on to our outlook for Q3 and the full year. Our outlook for Q3 is for revenue to be between $290,000,000 and $320,000,000 Within that, licensing revenue ranges from $265,000,000 to $295,000,000 Gross margins are expected to be approximately 88% on a non GAAP basis. Our outlook for non GAAP operating expenses is between $190,000,000 and 200,000,000 And with our effective tax rate for Q2 at about 20.5% on a non GAAP basis, non GAAP EPS is expected to come in between $0.62 and $0.77 per diluted share. For the full year, we have widened and lowered the range of revenue to be between $1,310,000,000 and $1,380,000,000 Our outlook for licensing revenue is to be between $1,210,000,000 and $1,280,000,000 We see non GAAP operating expenses between $760,000,000 and $775,000,000 and non GAAP earnings per share to be between $3.88 and $4.03 In closing, I'd like to remind you that Dolby has successfully navigated many technological and economic cycles. We have a resilient business model with a diversified global revenue base, deep partner relationships, high gross margins and a healthy balance sheet.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

We are well positioned to manage the business, and we will continue to focus on things that put us on a path of long term growth. With that, I'd like to turn it back to the operator to open the line for your questions. Operator?

Operator

Your first question comes from the line of Ralph Schackart with William Blair. Your line is open.

Ralph Schackart
Equity Research Analyst at William Blair

Good afternoon, and thanks for the extra color on the call today as it relates to the outlook. Just maybe first, as you're talking to your OEM partners, just curious, those that may be in less, I guess, lower tariff regions, I guess, what's sort of the ability for them to increase capacity if that should play out? That's the first question. Then I'll have a second.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

Yes. So thanks, Ralph. Of course, it varies by end market. One data point I would share on that note is the location of manufacture for TVs. Mexico is the largest location of manufacture, generally exempt under the exempt from tariff status.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

It's about 10% in China. Across the rest of our portfolio, it really varies by OEM. So I think ultimately, as Robert said, when we model our forecast about how many devices are going to ship and it's happening in real time, people deciding whether to increase prices because of those because of any tariffs, whether it's going to affect consumer spending, whether they're adjusting supply chains. But at this point, especially given that mobile is less sensitive to unit shipments, as Robert said, in the short term. TVs are mostly in Mexico.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

From where we sit today, we think it's likely that we'll experience some slight headwinds, but that could change quickly depending on how it evolves from here.

Ralph Schackart
Equity Research Analyst at William Blair

Great. And Robert, I missed this in the prepared remarks. Maybe you could just clarify. You talked about 25% of the units sold in The U. S.

Ralph Schackart
Equity Research Analyst at William Blair

Was that in reference to the total volume of products that Dolby reports as revenue? Maybe you can just kind of clarify that, please. Thanks.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

Yeah. Hey. Hi, Ralph. So while our ship to and, ship from data is limited, we estimate that approximately 25% of our licensing revenue from consumer device shipments are from those sold into The US, and a large portion of that is yeah. Okay.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

So for all our licensing revenue, 25 about 25% is related to, purchases in The US, consumer devices in The US.

Ralph Schackart
Equity Research Analyst at William Blair

Okay. That's helpful, Kevin. And just maybe last one, maybe a little bit bigger picture. You know, you've obviously been getting good traction with Vision and Atmos. You know, as it relates to some of the economic noise that's going on right now, has that stalled any conversations there or I guess maybe lost momentum?

Ralph Schackart
Equity Research Analyst at William Blair

Just kind of curious the momentum you're seeing on those two growth products.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

No. We continue to have really strong engagement with partners across the ecosystem. I talked about some of those today, automotive in particular, where we continue to see people leaning into really investing in the in car entertainment experience. Dolby Atmos Music is leading the way. You saw us announce Porsche has announced plans to launch four of its models with Dolby Atmos.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

Cadillac announced its plans to expand into the entirety of its EV lineup for 2026. And we also are now up to three Dolby Vision customers. So we're excited to move from Dolby Atmos music in the car and expanding that into the entire audiovisual experience.

Ralph Schackart
Equity Research Analyst at William Blair

That's helpful. Thanks, Kevin. Thanks, Robert.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Steven Frankel with Rosenblatt. Your line is open.

Steve Frankel
Director of Research & Senior Research Analyst at Rosenblatt Securities

Good afternoon. And yes, thank you for extra insight. In terms of the overall environment, to what extent if you see the environment continuing to deteriorate, might you adjust OpEx for the back half of the year? Is that expense level pretty much locked in at this point?

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

Well, the first thing I would say, Steve, is given the uncertainty, we're going to stay focused on what we know to drive long term value. We're not making any quick we're not making any fast changes to our operating plans. On the other hand, through periods of uncertainty, we've learned to make sure and be very attuned to whether there are any changes in the environment, has any impact on any one of our individual growth opportunities to the upside or the downside. We would make we'll look to be quick to adjust to that if and when that happens. Right now, we're staying the course.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

And we're always and I think you've seen us over the last couple of years looking for opportunities to be as efficient as we can everywhere we can.

Steve Frankel
Director of Research & Senior Research Analyst at Rosenblatt Securities

And you continue to make great progress in the car with Atmos Music. What do you think it takes to get to the tipping point? Is it hitting a particular car brand at a mainstream price point? Is it just getting a couple more wins? What do you think the catalyst will be that will really tick this market?

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

Well, look, I think we're doing we're really pleased with the momentum we have now. And we continue every quarter to bring on new manufacturers. We see new and existing customers of ours expanding deeper into their lineups. They are, as you would expect from us, usually starting they're starting at the higher ends of their lineups. And so we're also working with them and looking forward to when we start to get into high volume mainstream models.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

So that would be another big milestone. But in the meantime, we're very happy with the momentum.

Steve Frankel
Director of Research & Senior Research Analyst at Rosenblatt Securities

Great. And for Robert, what were true ups in the quarter?

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

True ups for Q2 is about $1,000,000

Steve Frankel
Director of Research & Senior Research Analyst at Rosenblatt Securities

I'll jump back in the queue. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Schall with Barrington Research. Your line is open.

Patrick Sholl
Vice President at Barrington Research Associates

Hi. Thanks. Good afternoon. Just another question on auto. Just curious in terms of, like, the the type of vehicles that you're getting adoption from Vision as well as Atmos, if that's more focused on EV or, like, a specific dash screen size, or anything like that?

Patrick Sholl
Vice President at Barrington Research Associates

And then on products and services,

Patrick Sholl
Vice President at Barrington Research Associates

I was wondering if you

Patrick Sholl
Vice President at Barrington Research Associates

could detail any, like, tariff exposure on that side.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

Yes. So on automotive, our first three customers are Chinese EV manufacturers. We also, on onset of Atmos, saw China move fast. And I think it's just a function of their they move fast. And I think that we also are seeing concentration in EVs because those models are designed in a way which allows for faster implementations and people are being aggressive about investing in the in car entertainment experience.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

They also tend to have more screens. But this is really there are some interesting stats about how much time people spend in their cars, when the car isn't moving at all. And so for some parts of the world or really anywhere in the world, whether you're kind of you're waiting to pick up somebody from somewhere or you have time in that car, then people are using their cars as moving entertainment centers and communication centers. So I think overall that's what's driving it. It'll start with the ability to stream movies and shows other types of content.

Kevin Yeaman
Kevin Yeaman
President , CEO & Director at Dolby Laboratories

On the second part of the question, do you want to take the impact, Robert?

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

Yeah. Hi. The question on impact on our products business, fairly small, the impact of the tariffs. Yeah, there are we do manufacture our products overseas, but a large portion of those products are shipped to non U. S.

Robert Park
Robert Park
Senior VP & CFO at Dolby Laboratories

Markets. And the impact on the tariff rates for those are pretty marginal.

Patrick Sholl
Vice President at Barrington Research Associates

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will hand things back over to Peter for closing remarks.

Peter Goldmacher
Peter Goldmacher
VP & Investor Relations at Dolby Laboratories

Thanks, operator. Thanks, everyone, for joining the call. We'll talk to you next quarter.

Operator

Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect.

Executives
    • Peter Goldmacher
      Peter Goldmacher
      VP & Investor Relations
    • Kevin Yeaman
      Kevin Yeaman
      President , CEO & Director
    • Robert Park
      Robert Park
      Senior VP & CFO
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Key Takeaways

  • Q2 results saw both licensing and total revenue hit the midpoint of guidance, with non-GAAP EPS of $1.34 at the high end, and FY25 revenue guidance modestly revised to $1.31–1.38 billion amid macro uncertainty.
  • Automotive momentum strengthened as Porsche, Cadillac, Volvo, Xiaomi and Hyundai integrate Dolby Atmos, while NIO and Zeeker deploy Dolby Vision in new EV models, making auto a key growth driver.
  • Mobile expansion focuses on bringing Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos to user-generated content through partnerships with Xiaohongshu, Kuaishou, Filmora and CapCut, plus device launches by Oppo, Realme and Xiaomi.
  • Living-room footprint grew with major sports events like the Super Bowl and March Madness streamed in Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision, and new IPTV, set-top box and TV models from Waipu TV, TOD, Sky Glass Gen 2, LG, Sharp and Hisense supporting Dolby technologies.
  • Financially, Q2 generated $175 million in operating cash flow and finished with $711 million in cash & investments; the company repurchased $35 million of stock and raised its dividend by 10%, underscoring a resilient, high-margin model for long-term growth.
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