Ispire Technology Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

and thank you for standing by. My name is Regina, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the iSpire Technology Third Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.

Operator

I would now like to turn the conference over to Philip Carlson from KCSA. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Hello, everyone, and welcome to iSpire Technologies earnings conference call for the third quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five ended 03/31/2025. At this time, I'd like to inform you that this conference call is being recorded and that all participants are in a listen only mode. Following the company's prepared remarks, we will be facilitating a question and answer session. Joining us today are Mr. Michael Wong, the company's Co CEO and Mr.

Speaker 1

Jim McCormick, the company's CFO. To begin, Mr. Wong will recap the company's key fiscal third quarter financial results and recent corporate highlights, after which Mr. McCormick will discuss the company's fiscal third quarter financial results in more detail. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this conference call contains forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Speaker 1

All statements other than statements of historical fact and its announcement are forward looking statements. Forward looking statements are based on estimates and assumptions made by the company in terms of its experience and its perception of historical trends, current conditions and expected future developments as well as other factors that the company believes are relevant. These forward looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, and many factors could cause the company's actual results or performance to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward looking statements. Further information regarding this and other risk factors are included in the company's filings with the SEC. The company undertakes no obligation to update forward looking statements to reflect subsequent or current events or circumstances or to changes in its expectations, except as may be required by law.

Speaker 1

I will now turn the call over to Mr. Wang. Mr. Wang, please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Phil, and thank you to all who have joined us today. I'm glad to be here today to review our fiscal third quarter twenty twenty five results and the recent highlights. As our results over the third quarter demonstrated, we have continued to deliver on our promises across multiple fronts of our business. Our commitment to executing on our strategic roadmap is clear as we strive towards becoming a leading manufacturer of precision dosing, raising technology for global nicotine companies. We made significant progress throughout our fiscal third quarter.

Speaker 2

'1 of our main priorities has been on managing our account receivables more tightly. I'm pleased to announce that during the quarter, we were able to reduce our account receivable by approximately $7,300,000 from the previous quarter to approximately $60,400,000 This includes a reduction in the underlying accounts receivable balance of approximately $2,600,000 reversing the trend we have seen with the increase in accounts receivable during previous quarters. This improvement was due to our team putting in place strict payment and collection policies and further demonstrates our commitment to enhancing our financial stability. We expect to continue making more progress on reducing our accounts receivable in the coming quarters as we focus on higher quality and the larger customers with improved payment terms. For the third quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five, we reported revenues of approximately $26,200,000 compared to $30,000,000 even for the same period in fiscal twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2

The pending increase in tariffs on Chinese made goods has impacted product pricing dynamics in the market. However, we expect to be less impacted given that we also manufacture our products in Malaysia, which I'll talk to shortly. Moving forward, we are optimizing our pricing strategy by shifting more from landed pricing to FOB factory pricing, which will enhance our flexibility and strengthen our market position regardless of the tariff conditions affecting our gross margin. Regarding our Malaysian operation, we have now secured our interim nicotine product manufacturing license as promised on our last earnings call. Our growing business in Malaysia is a central part of our global business strategy of delivering leading vaping and age gating technology solutions to consumers.

Speaker 2

The interim license allows us to officially begin marketing our nicotine manufacturing capabilities externally. We anticipate receiving our final manufacturer's license in the coming few months, which will complete our regulatory requirements in Malaysia. Our Malaysian facility will soon feature 80 production lines, that's eight zero, significantly expanding our manufacturing capacity from the current fixed lines we are running now. This diversification of our production base is strategically important and positions us advantageously in the global marketplace as it lowers the risk of geopolitical factors that increase our pricing. I'm also pleased to report that on May 1, we announced that ICTECH LLC, a key joint venture, filed a component PMPA for its blockchain based point of use age gating system with the FDA, delivering on another key promise.

Speaker 2

This age verification component is a necessary step towards regulation in our industry, as the traditional systems typically verify the user's age only once at purchase, which offers a lower bar of safety and security for underage individuals looking for vaping products. This new and innovative platform requires continual real time verification for device access. This is the type of security that is needed, especially as we aim to curb the issue of youth vaping use. Our joint venture ICTECH requested an expedited review of the PMPA application, citing the system's potential to enhance public health. Furthermore, I SPAR will benefit from commercial sales of the component, as well as from the rights to integrate the technology into our own devices.

Speaker 2

These new revenue opportunities will further position iSpire as the leading innovator of a regulatory compliant precision dosing vaping technology. As we discussed the last quarter, our plug and play component PMPA strategy through our IX joint venture has transformative potential for the entire nicotine delivery market. If approved, this would be the first component PMTA in FDA history, allowing for modular use in hundreds of ENDS products. In parallel, I SPAR is also preparing to file its own POP systems and disposable vape PMPAs for flavored ENDS products that will incorporate the I VTEC age gating system. We are planning to first introduce four flavored products, with the potential to increase to between six and ten flavors.

Speaker 2

If approved, this would provide adult consumers with safe, regulated alternatives while effectively preventing youth access. This is a much needed change to the current market where consumers often endanger their health with risky, unregulated products that continue to flood the marketplace. This technology represents a pioneering approach to expanding adult access to PMPA authorized flavored products, while setting new standards for industry safety and compliance. Another exciting development during the third quarter was the launch of the Sprout, developed in partnership with the Raw Garden, a leading California based cannabis company. Sprout is an advanced all in one cannabis paper device designed for purity, performance, and safety.

Speaker 2

Sprout is specifically developed to optimize the new senses and intricacies of sophisticated cannabis oil, while eliminating common industry flaws like plastic degradation, clogged airflow, and inconsistent heating. This ensures an experience for consumers as clean as the plant itself. Initially launching with the Raw Garden, the SPROUT technology is available to cannabis operators across The US. Our innovation with the SPROUT product underscores our commitment to raising industry standards, prioritizing material safety and putting consumer well-being first. We continue to engage in discussions with several large global nicotine and tobacco providers who are looking to diversify their supply chain.

Speaker 2

While we are under NDAs and cannot reveal specific names at this time, we look forward to making announcements as soon as possible. As you can see here, we have made significant progress on our strategic priorities. We have reduced our accounts receivable, secured our interim Malaysian nicotine product manufacturing license, filed the iQTECH PMTA on schedule, and positioned ourselves to capitalize on growing international opportunities. We remain focused on driving a more profitable business model through our Malaysian manufacturing operations, as well as focusing on high quality customers. All while driving innovative technology solution for the global vaping market.

Speaker 2

With that, I'll turn the call over to our CFO, Jim McCormick, to review our financial results in more detail. Jim?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Michael. As a reminder, I will refer to the fiscal third quarter twenty twenty five as the three months ended 03/31/2025. All comparisons are to the prior year ended 03/31/2024, unless otherwise stated. For the third quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five, total revenue decreased to $26,200,000 representing a change of 12.7% or $3,800,000 compared to $30,000,000 in the same period last year. Our revenue results were driven by the performance across our key geographical regions as follows.

Speaker 3

European revenues of approximately $13,200,000 in Q3 fiscal twenty twenty five represent a slight decline of $300,000 or 2.9% compared to $13,600,000 in the same period last year. Revenue from North America of approximately $8,800,000 in Q3 fiscal twenty twenty five represented a decline of $3,600,000 or 28.9% compared to $12,400,000 for the third quarter in fiscal twenty twenty four. This was largely driven by the new tariffs on China made products, the impact of our transition of some manufacturing activities from China to Malaysia, and the effect of us on working only with larger and high quality customers such as multistate operators. Asia Pacific revenues of approximately $3,000,000 represented a decline of $800,000 or 21.4% compared to $3,800,000 in the third quarter of last fiscal year. This was primarily the result of reduced demand in South Korea ahead of anticipated changes in the regulatory environment.

Speaker 3

Revenues from Africa of $100,000 were roughly flat compared to the revenue from the same period last year. For the nine month period ending 03/31/2025, revenues decreased by 6.3% to 107,400,000 compared to the same period in fiscal twenty twenty four. Once again, this is tied directly to the focus on higher quality customers in cannabis space for growing revenue for higher levels of accounts receivable collection. For the three months ending 03/31/2025, we reported gross profit of approximately $4,800,000 compared to approximately $6,100,000 for the same period in fiscal twenty twenty four. Gross margins for Q3 were down to 18.2% from 20.4% last year.

Speaker 3

During the nine month period to 03/31/2025, gross profit increased to $20,200,000 from $19,200,000 for the same period last year. Gross margins for the nine month period to 03/31/2025 were up to 18.8 versus 16.8% for the same period last year. This was primarily due to changes in the product mix and generally improving gross margins in North America. Total operating expenses for fiscal Q3 twenty twenty five were approximately $15,400,000 versus approximately $11,800,000 for the same period last year. Operating expenses over the nine month period to 03/31/2025 were $43,400,000 up from $29,700,000 through the third fiscal quarter of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3

This increase reflects higher stock based compensation expense, bad debt expense, higher sales and marketing costs, and one off severance costs related to the company's previously disclosed North American restructuring. It is worth noting that the benefits of this restructuring will begin to be realized in fiscal Q4 twenty twenty five. The net loss for the third fiscal quarter of twenty twenty five was $10,900,000 or $0.19 per share, compared to a net loss of $5,900,000 or $0.11 per share for the same period last year. As of 03/31/2025, iSpire held cash and cash equivalents of $23,500,000 a reduction of $10,900,000 versus the same previous quarter of last year, with a working capital balance of negative $2,100,000 The reduction in cash equivalents is related to a reduction in standard and related party accounts receivable. The company fully expects to return to a positive working cash balance moving forward.

Speaker 3

For the nine months ended 03/31/2025, net cash flow used by operating activities was 12,100,000 compared to $16,900,000 in the same period last year. Net cash used in investing activities for the nine months to 03/31/2025 was $1,700,000 compared to $5,900,000 provided by investing activities in the prior comparable period. Net cash provided by financing activities for the nine months to 03/31/2025 was $2,300,000 compared to $10,100,000 used in the same period last year. That concludes our discussion of I SPIRE's fiscal third quarter twenty twenty five financial results. I will now turn the call back over to Michael.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jim. In closing, I'm very pleased with the progress we made over the third fiscal quarter. As I stated previously, we achieved several significant milestones this quarter. Securing our interim nicotine manufacturing license in Malaysia, restructuring our global operations to be more cost effective, transitioning more of our manufacturing to Malaysia, filing of iCTEG component PMTA with FDA on schedule, and reversing the increasing trend of our accounts receivable. In addition, our pricing strategy shift from landed to FOB factory pricing demonstrates our adaptability and commitment to long term profitability regardless of its external market conditions.

Speaker 2

There are several unique and exciting opportunities that exist for I SPIRE going forward. In particular, receiving Malaysia's First federal nicotine manufacturing license, our age gating technologies potential to revolutionize the electronic nicotine delivery systems, namely, ANS devices worldwide. And our ongoing discussion with global nicotine providers. With our strategic focus on innovation, regulatory compliance, and the increased financial stability, we are well placed to capitalize on significant market opportunities while also being a leader in responsible industry practices. Thank you again to our investors for their continued support and to everyone who joined us today for your time.

Speaker 2

We look forward to updating you further in the coming months. If you have any questions, please contact us through email at irispiretechnology dot com. This completes our prepared remarks, and we are now open to questions. Operator, please go ahead.

Operator

Our first question will come from the line of Nick Anderson with Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Yes, good morning, and thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the quarter. First one for me, just on the FDA and the focus on port shopping, just help us understand what that could mean regarding the illicit vape supply in The U. S. And I guess two questions off this. Do you expect a significant reduction in illicit product flow off this?

Speaker 4

And two, does this change the way you look at the growth opportunity in North America kind of near term here? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Nick, thank you. So with the approval of this technology, we strongly believe we will convert a lot of consumers from currently using gray or black market vaping products to actually compliant and safer products so they can trust. Right now, of course, from different estimates you get different dollar amount. But by and large, the consensus is the black market for vaping products, especially e cigarette, accounts for anywhere between five and seven times of the legal market, which last year reached over $10,000,000,000 So that means in The US black market is anywhere between $5.5 to potentially even up to $70,000,000,000 in retail. So those are products we really don't feel comfortable enough to use, we personally.

Speaker 2

So by allowing so many consumers, especially adult consumers, use them. So of course, there hasn't been a reliable solution to age gate products for adult consumers to use and to prevent youth access to such products. But finally with such solution, we are very optimistic about how many percent of the consumers we can convert from black market to legal market. So that's number one. Number two, I think until our products are FDA approved, we of course don't plan or cannot sell products in The US.

Speaker 2

So in the near term, in The US, there is probably very little revenue from such products. However, this technology could be used outside The United States. As we all know, most countries face the same challenge as we face here in The US that's uncontrolled youth access to flavored yeast to bread. So many governments are looking for solutions right now. In fact, we already spoke to a couple of governments in terms of regulation and tobacco control aspect, are encouraging opportunities outside The US where the deployment of such technology could happen much, much faster than within The US.

Speaker 2

So in the near term, I think the opportunities are more outside The US when our own products are FDA approved, US represents an enormous market for us. Nick, did I answer your question completely?

Speaker 4

Yes, that was perfect. Thank you. Second one for me, wanted to follow-up on the EU and the disposable vape bans taking place over the coming months here. Are there any countries in particular you're looking at and are excited about? And are there any supply constraints that need to be addressed before kind of expanding your product offering overseas?

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Speaker 2

As far as, first of all, to address the EU market, as we all know, UK led the European market by banning disposables, EU would follow suit. So obviously the industry will switch to what we know as number one, pod systems, where you only need to replace the pods that you use on your device. And the other opportunity would be for some consumers to actually switch to open systems or refillable systems. So this is where I Spire's brand Aspire is super strong. Largely so far our global nicotine or E SID revenue comes from the European region.

Speaker 2

So we strongly believe we'll benefit from the ban for disposable, whether it's The UK or across the whole EU. So now second part of the question is whether or not we will have any restriction or bottleneck in terms of our supply chain manufacturing capabilities to support such initiative. We think we'll be in good shape supporting that endeavor and support the change in that regulation. As I stated previously, with our phase two factory, our second factory in Malaysia, we'll be able to build out up to 80 production lines in total. Of course, we are on one hand very excited about this manufacturing license for nicotine products.

Speaker 2

On the other hand, we are also very mindful of financial discipline and strategic use of our cash. So on that front, as we continue our conversation with our potential customers and to support our own demand, we are also looking at whether certain product lines are better supported by more automated production process. So from output point of view, we feel very confident with 80 lines in fully automated, we could pump out somewhere between 700,000,000 POP devices in a year's time. So the capacity certainly will be able to support significant growth in demand, whether it's from our own products or to support other brands. Nick?

Speaker 4

Got it. Thanks for the color, Michael. Congrats on the quarter. I'll jump back in the queue.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from the line of Pablo Zuanic with Zuanic and Associates LLC. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thank you, and good morning, everyone, here in The U. S. Just my question more in terms of cannabis. Can you talk about customer reactions in The US for your new hardware devices, your new innovation? How much inroads are you making there?

Speaker 5

And then related to that, of course, we don't know what's gonna happen with tariffs. You know, it's on and off every day pretty much. But, you know, what alternatives do customers have, really? They need the vaping hardware, they will just have to pass it on to pricing to their customers, I suppose. But if you can discuss that.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Pablo. The first part of your question, Specific to the SPROUT product we talked about, that's just one of the recent innovations. The other product we launched a quarter before is what we call VOLT platform. That's V O L T, VOLT platform. We shortened it for VLT.

Speaker 2

So essentially with the Vault platform we are providing a pod system that can become a new standard for the vaping industry. As you recall a long time ago, and even to some degree today, the traditional battery plus S Pen card configuration was very, very much a standard for the industry. But over time, consumers' taste change and brands want more attractive looking devices. So that's why two quarters ago we launched the Vault platform. It offers alternative to traditional individually designed pod system and the traditional old battery stick approach, making the product easier to carry, compact, and good to look.

Speaker 2

We launched that on industry basis. By that I mean, so all the brands could share the same battery part of the POD system. They don't have to spend all the money to re procure, re sell such battery part when a consumer already has battery from another brand or a generic brand. So we are trying to build a new essentially platform for the industry that was taking shape. Now with this new Sprouts product, this is really performance focused and more, let's call it specifically designed for cannabis oil, especially with highly corrosive proteins.

Speaker 2

So this is setting a brand new safety standard for the industry. Similar to the Vault platform I shared earlier, we would like to make this a new standard for the industry as well. So that's why we think our approach of trying to offer the industry a new platform, whether from performance or from safety point of view or from cost effectiveness point of view for consumers. Those are our focus and we think both new platforms will be very attractive to MSOs. They not only launch new and more innovative products, but also from their point of view to offer safer products to their consumers.

Speaker 2

So that's my answer to the first part of your question. As far as your second part that's related to tariff situation we are facing right now, As Jim stated in his part, as soon as President Trump was elected in November, he made it very clear he was going to raise tariff on import, especially Chinese made products. In this industry, literally 99.99% of vaping devices up to say two years ago were made in China. Today there is a little bit of diversification in terms of country of origin, but still well over 90% of products are made in China. So as soon as President Trump was elected, nearly all of our customers started almost a panic search for solution phase.

Speaker 2

And we talked to most of them, we negotiated, a lot of other customers, brands were worried about the tariff level. Just as background, for most of the customers, cannabis, MSO, or individual operators we had business with, we generally would sign a supply agreement. In the agreement we typically specify landed cost. As you heard me saying several times in my prepared remarks, we generally sold the products to the customers on a landed cost basis, meaning that's what they pay when they receive the product from us in The US. But given the uncertainty regarding the tariffs, many brands wanted to almost get guaranteed landed price in the coming quarters and years ahead.

Speaker 2

Of course, we could not agree to that because we couldn't control the TERFs or the levels TERFs exposed specifically upon this industry. So since November there have been, I would say, a lot of conversations, negotiations on existing supply agreement. So to a degree that directly affected our cannabis revenue from The US in the quarter we reported. That's a big reason for the decline in revenue there. But as of now, we have successfully renegotiated with most of our US Cannabis customers.

Speaker 2

Most of them agreed to switch to FOB factory price, whether the factory is in China or in Malaysia. Obviously, if they place order with our Malaysian factory, they will enjoy a lower tariff. Obviously, from Malaysia and China, both point of view, since Malaysia is still in the scaling phase, scaling up phase, our product costs slightly more in Malaysia than in China. But the differential is more than being offset by the current tariff difference between Chinese made goods and Malaysian made goods. So no matter what, Malaysia is already more attractive to our customers, but over the next one to two quarters we plan on moving most, if not 100% of the cannabis hardware to our Malaysian operation to help our customers lower tariff on their end.

Speaker 2

But in order to really prevent any further exposure to tariff risks, We have, as I said, successfully renegotiated most of the contracts with our customers to FOB factory. Pablo, sorry about the long rounded answer to your question.

Speaker 5

No, that's very helpful. Very good color. If I may, just one quick follow-up. So I know it's hard to know about your competitors, right? And there are several, especially in the cannabis, vaping and worse space, of course, also nicotine.

Speaker 5

But do you think that you have more flexibility because of the emulation facility than others or your competitors, or they have also been diversifying their supply chain? Or it's just hard to know?

Speaker 2

I think even though, first of all, even though The US and China reached a ninety day agreement on tariff now, on one hand we still don't know what the picture looks like after ninety days. So even if we follow the current situation here, that is 30% tariff on Chinese mixed goods in the next thirty days, it's still significant tariff. On the other hand, as you are very aware, many of the Chinese factories have added some overseas manufacturing capabilities. I know our key competitor is in Indonesia and some other competitors are also in Indonesia. Indonesia products according to President Trump's tariff chart are expected to be 35%, and 45%.

Speaker 2

And 35% for Indonesia, Forty Five Percent for Vietnam, that's where a couple of our competitors are trying to set up factories. So among those key locations for our competitors factories, our Malaysian setup is still advantageous because Malaysia among all those countries I mentioned enjoys the lowest tariff rate so far. We strongly believe it will continue to have that edge over the other countries in Asia. Pablo?

Speaker 5

Understood, thank you very much. That's very helpful, thank you. Good color.

Operator

And that will conclude our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to Michael Wong for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

And thank you all again for joining us for the opportunity to share our progress with you. We look forward to reporting back more as we continue to make progress. So I hope to talk to you all again during our next quarterly call. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

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