NYSE:RBOT Vicarious Surgical Q1 2025 Earnings Report $7.32 +0.65 (+9.66%) Closing price 03:58 PM EasternExtended Trading$7.30 -0.02 (-0.27%) As of 06:41 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Vicarious Surgical EPS ResultsActual EPS-$2.58Consensus EPS -$2.61Beat/MissBeat by +$0.03One Year Ago EPSN/AVicarious Surgical Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AVicarious Surgical Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/12/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateMonday, May 12, 2025Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsVicarious Surgical's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Monday, August 11, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Monday, August 4, 2025 at 4:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Vicarious Surgical Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 12, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Vicarius Surgical twenty twenty five First Quarter Earnings Call. My name is Nadia, and I'll be coordinating the call today. Operator00:00:14Will now hand over to your host, Webb Campbell, Investor Relations, to begin. Webb, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:22Good afternoon. Today, after market close, Vicarious Surgical released financial results for the three months ended 03/31/2025. A copy of the press release is available on the company's website. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that management will make statements during this call that include forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities law, which are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Any statements contained in this call that relate to expectations or predictions of future events, results or performance are forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:01All forward looking statements, including without limitation, those relating to obtaining approval for the Vicarious Surgical System and the timing of any such approval, our operating trends and future financial performance, expense management, market opportunity and commercialization are based upon current estimates and various assumptions. These statements involve material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ or events to materially differ from those anticipated or implied by these forward looking statements. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these statements. For a list and description of these risks and uncertainties associated with our business, please refer to the risk factors set in our Securities and Exchange Commission filings, including in our most recent Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q. This conference call contains time sensitive information and is accurate only as of the live broadcast today, 05/12/2025. Speaker 100:02:04Vicarious Surgical disclaims any intention or obligation, except as required by law, to update or revise any financial projections or forward looking statements, whether based on new information, future events or otherwise. Now I'll hand the call over to Adam Sachs, Co Founder and CEO, for prepared remarks. Adam? Speaker 200:02:26Thanks, Webb. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining Vicari Surgical's first quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. I'm pleased to be here today alongside Sarah Romano, our Chief Financial Officer. We're especially delighted to have Sarah with us for her first earnings call as an official member of the Vicarious team, having joined us at the April. Sarah begins excuse me, brings decades of financial leadership experience and substantial knowledge from prior CFO positions at innovative businesses in the health care sector. Speaker 200:03:00She has run successful fundraising activities, M and A initiatives and operations strategies in her career. Turning to our recent business progress. It is truly an exciting time at Vicarious Surgical. For the last decade, our vision has been to revolutionize robotic surgery by overcoming the limitations inherent in open, laparoscopic, and existing robotic approaches. After years of dedicated effort in developing our proprietary decoupled actuating technology and meticulously refining our surgical system to enable minimally invasive procedures through a single small incision, we are just a few quarters away from our biggest milestone yet, our first clinical patients. Speaker 200:03:48We anticipate 2025 will be the year Vicarious Surgical evolves into a clinical stage company and demonstrates the immense value of our single port surgical system. For the current year, our efforts are directed toward the precise and timely execution of all critical intermediate steps essential for our success in the clinic. These include, first, the expansive inventory build out of instrument arms, cameras and capital equipment to support our schedule of rigorous testing. Second, the successful completion of all essential performance and safety testing with our surgical system, such as sterility, biocompatibility and electromagnetic compatibility. Third, securing appropriate in country regulatory approvals to advance clinical work at our respective planned sites. Speaker 200:04:43In the first quarter, we successfully built our first patient card and surgeon console for formal preclinical testing and have since begun system integration as well as the construction of our second surgeon console and patient card that will be utilized in our first human cases. Further, our initial instrument sets have completed production and have completed bioburden review. With these results in hand, we expect to begin initial biocompatibility and sterility testing on new inventory momentarily as well as to send additional instruments for sterilization and subsequent essential performance and safety testing. On the clinical side, we are preparing for our first human cases. We expect to treat a handful of patients at a few sites. Speaker 200:05:32The endpoint for these initial patients will align with that of our pivotal trial, focusing on the surgeon's ability to successfully complete the intended ventral hernia repair. We continue to advance through the approval process required to perform our first clinical procedures. We are maintaining close collaboration with reviewers in this process, providing necessary information for their review of the study design, methodology, and procedures. Beyond our development and clinical progress in the quarter, we are also pleased to announce our latest strategic hospital system partnership with UMass Memorial Medical Center, a premier health care system in the greater Boston area and clinical partner of the esteemed University of Massachusetts Chan Medical School. This collaboration will concentrate on optimizing critical elements of implementing a robotic system, including refining para operative practices, enhancing surgeon education through mentorship and system testing, and establishing ambassadorship activities to drive best practices and adoption of our version one point o system. Speaker 200:06:40UMass Memorial's regional prominence, academic focus, and close proximity to our Waltham headquarters make them an invaluable partner as we work to optimize the integration of our technology into hospital environments. This collaboration adds to our strong set of existing partnerships with several leading health care institutions and providers, including HCA Healthcare, University Hospitals, Pittsburgh Creates, Intermountain Health, and LSU Health New Orleans. These strategic collaborations, combined with the unwavering commitment of our team, give us a strong conviction and our capability to realize our corporate mission and achieve our objectives for the year. We are increasingly optimistic that the progress made in the first quarter will enable us to showcase the groundbreaking value of our V1.0 system in a clinical setting later this year, a pivotal moment which we are keenly focused on. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Sarah to review our first quarter financial results. Speaker 300:07:43Thank you, Adam. Total operating expenses for the first quarter of twenty twenty five were $15,700,000 a 2% decrease compared to $16,100,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. R and D expenses for the first quarter of twenty twenty five were $9,400,000 compared to $10,000,000 in the first quarter of 'twenty four. General and administrative expenses for the first quarter of 'twenty five were $5,300,000 compared to $5,000,000 in the first quarter of 'twenty four. And first quarter twenty twenty five sales and marketing expenses were $1,000,000 essentially flat from the prior year period. Speaker 300:08:25Further, adjusted net loss for the first quarter of twenty twenty five was $15,300,000 or $2.58 per share as compared to $15,100,000 or also $2.58 per share in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. GAAP net loss for the first quarter of twenty twenty five was $15,400,000 or $2.6 per share. This compares to a net loss of $17,000,000 or $2.9 per share in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. For a reconciliation of all non GAAP measures to GAAP, please review our earnings press release. We ended the first quarter of this year with approximately $37,000,000 of cash, cash equivalents and short term investments on our balance sheet. Speaker 300:09:17This represents our first quarter cash burn rate of approximately 12,000,000 We continue to expect full year 2025 cash burn to be approximately $50,000,000 and we remain committed to disciplined capital allocation. 2025 is off to a strong start, and we look forward to updating you as we progress with our business initiatives in the coming quarters. With that, I will turn the call back to Adam for closing remarks. Speaker 200:09:50Thanks, Sarah. Vicarious Surgical is on course for a transformative 2025. The team's solid first quarter performance puts us firmly on the path to achieving our first major clinical milestone later this year. Our achievements are, as ever, a direct result of the unwavering dedication of our team, coupled with the invaluable support of our investors and stakeholders. Thank you for your continued belief in Vicarious Surgical. Speaker 200:10:23And thank you to everyone who joined the call today. We appreciate your support and look forward to updating you on our continued progress. Nadia, we're ready for questions. Operator00:10:35Thank you. Our first question goes to Ryan Zinnerman of BTIG. Ryan, please go ahead. Speaker 400:10:57Hi, everyone. This is Izzy on for Ryan. Thank you for taking the questions. And Sarah, congrats on your new role here. Just to start out, given your current cash balance right now and the expectations for burn through the year, I was just curious what assurances you can give to investors about your continued ability to fund operations? Speaker 300:11:20So hi. Nice to hear from you, and thank you for the question. So our main focus is on disciplined spending, ensuring that we stay within budget while also ensuring that we produce a safe and effective product. So we're reviewing all costs, ensuring that our cash is being used in the most effective way possible. Additionally, we are thinking strategically about our our financing. Speaker 300:11:47We're currently evaluating all options that are available to us. We do have a very supportive insider base. We believe that they'll be very supportive going forward as well, and hopefully some new investors coming coming to the table as well. With several upcoming exciting milestones ahead, you know, we're hoping to structure a financing around these. So I think, know, we're all very optimistic here, with with our ability to to finance the company. Speaker 400:12:21Got it. That that's helpful. Thank you, Sarah. And as we think about the supply, just curious if you guys are how you're feeling about your ability to supply any remaining components for the v one o build? Anything that we should be aware of there? Speaker 400:12:36Thank you for taking the questions. Speaker 200:12:39Yeah. So last quarter, we did note some challenges with our supply chain. It's obviously quite a complex supply chain for a fairly complex system overall. And that being said, we've managed this effectively, and we have not seen any, you know, further changes or adjustments in our schedule as a result of supply. So I would say, at the moment, we're feeling quite good about our supply chain. Speaker 200:13:08We have a pretty amazing team that manages the entire supply chain for our business, and they've been able to do so effectively in the last quarter. Speaker 400:13:19Got it. Thank you for taking the questions. Speaker 200:13:22Thank you. Operator00:13:25Thank you. And the next question goes to Josh Jennings of TD Cowen. Josh, please go ahead. Speaker 500:13:39Hi, this is Eric on for Josh. Thank you for taking the question. I wanted to ask about the technical dossier submission that should be unlocking your ability to conduct first patient testing. I was just hoping for a little more detail on the review timeline expectations. So I think you said in the past that it could be a few months, and I was just hoping we could talk through the assumption there and where it comes from and and also if that factors in some potential questions that you could be receiving from the agency. Speaker 200:14:07Yeah. Thanks, Eric. I appreciate the question. So overall, we're looking around mid this year at filing our technical dossier in country in order to do these first clinical patients. This includes a ton of information, all of the safety testing and performance data that's required to use our system in the first human cases later this year. Speaker 200:14:35So we're really excited about this. We've made a set of assumptions that enable us to do these first patients later this year, And that is based on a number of assumptions around other companies with similar products, similar levels of complexity that have filed in similar countries or actually the same country or the same agency in the last year or two. So we feel fairly confident in these assumptions. We have that does bake in some time to go back and forth, hence why we're filing in the middle of this year and doing those first cases later this year. Speaker 500:15:19Understood. That makes sense. And then on the hospital partners that you've been announcing, and congrats on the recent announcement today, to what extent could they be additive to your development process as we stand right now? Or is that really something that once you reach commercial stage, the benefit of those partners will become evident? Speaker 200:15:39So first, the the second part of your question there, 100%. I mean, we are working with these partners, and they are working with us because they're excited about what we're doing. And they want to see it in the operating room and be able to use it in the operating room. And this is a market that is 96% white space that has incredible opportunity and not nearly enough surgical robotics or robots out in the field today, which gives these hospital systems the opportunity and and the the availability to purchase our system when we're on market because of its differentiation and the promise of visualization, dexterity, sensing capabilities, and ability to operate. To to answer directly about what we're working on with them, especially with the the latest system with UMass, it's primarily focused around paraoperative workflow and procedures, really making sure not only that we've designed a system that is is excellent for workflow and able to do procedures in an efficient, streamlined manner, but on top of that, that we're actually designing the workflow around the system and around what makes sense for the operating room today. Speaker 500:16:57That makes sense. Thank you for the questions. Speaker 200:17:01Yeah. Thank you. Operator00:17:04Thank you.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Vicarious is preparing for first human clinical cases of its single-port surgical system in 2025, having completed key preclinical milestones and targeting pivotal trials later this year. In Q1 2025, the company built its initial patient cart and surgeon console, initiated system integration, produced instrument sets, and began biocompatibility, sterility and performance testing. They formed a strategic partnership with UMass Memorial Medical Center to optimize perioperative workflows, surgeon training and system integration ahead of clinical use. Q1 2025 financials showed a 2% decrease in operating expenses to $15.7 M, a GAAP net loss of $15.4 M ($2.60/share), and $37 M in cash, supporting a full-year burn of ~$50 M. Management reports stable supply chain, disciplined capital allocation, and is evaluating milestone-based financing options—backed by insiders—to fund upcoming operations. AI Generated. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Vicarius Surgical twenty twenty five First Quarter Earnings Call. My name is Nadia, and I'll be coordinating the call today. Operator00:00:14Will now hand over to your host, Webb Campbell, Investor Relations, to begin. Webb, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:22Good afternoon. Today, after market close, Vicarious Surgical released financial results for the three months ended 03/31/2025. A copy of the press release is available on the company's website. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that management will make statements during this call that include forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities law, which are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Any statements contained in this call that relate to expectations or predictions of future events, results or performance are forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:01All forward looking statements, including without limitation, those relating to obtaining approval for the Vicarious Surgical System and the timing of any such approval, our operating trends and future financial performance, expense management, market opportunity and commercialization are based upon current estimates and various assumptions. These statements involve material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ or events to materially differ from those anticipated or implied by these forward looking statements. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these statements. For a list and description of these risks and uncertainties associated with our business, please refer to the risk factors set in our Securities and Exchange Commission filings, including in our most recent Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q. This conference call contains time sensitive information and is accurate only as of the live broadcast today, 05/12/2025. Speaker 100:02:04Vicarious Surgical disclaims any intention or obligation, except as required by law, to update or revise any financial projections or forward looking statements, whether based on new information, future events or otherwise. Now I'll hand the call over to Adam Sachs, Co Founder and CEO, for prepared remarks. Adam? Speaker 200:02:26Thanks, Webb. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining Vicari Surgical's first quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. I'm pleased to be here today alongside Sarah Romano, our Chief Financial Officer. We're especially delighted to have Sarah with us for her first earnings call as an official member of the Vicarious team, having joined us at the April. Sarah begins excuse me, brings decades of financial leadership experience and substantial knowledge from prior CFO positions at innovative businesses in the health care sector. Speaker 200:03:00She has run successful fundraising activities, M and A initiatives and operations strategies in her career. Turning to our recent business progress. It is truly an exciting time at Vicarious Surgical. For the last decade, our vision has been to revolutionize robotic surgery by overcoming the limitations inherent in open, laparoscopic, and existing robotic approaches. After years of dedicated effort in developing our proprietary decoupled actuating technology and meticulously refining our surgical system to enable minimally invasive procedures through a single small incision, we are just a few quarters away from our biggest milestone yet, our first clinical patients. Speaker 200:03:48We anticipate 2025 will be the year Vicarious Surgical evolves into a clinical stage company and demonstrates the immense value of our single port surgical system. For the current year, our efforts are directed toward the precise and timely execution of all critical intermediate steps essential for our success in the clinic. These include, first, the expansive inventory build out of instrument arms, cameras and capital equipment to support our schedule of rigorous testing. Second, the successful completion of all essential performance and safety testing with our surgical system, such as sterility, biocompatibility and electromagnetic compatibility. Third, securing appropriate in country regulatory approvals to advance clinical work at our respective planned sites. Speaker 200:04:43In the first quarter, we successfully built our first patient card and surgeon console for formal preclinical testing and have since begun system integration as well as the construction of our second surgeon console and patient card that will be utilized in our first human cases. Further, our initial instrument sets have completed production and have completed bioburden review. With these results in hand, we expect to begin initial biocompatibility and sterility testing on new inventory momentarily as well as to send additional instruments for sterilization and subsequent essential performance and safety testing. On the clinical side, we are preparing for our first human cases. We expect to treat a handful of patients at a few sites. Speaker 200:05:32The endpoint for these initial patients will align with that of our pivotal trial, focusing on the surgeon's ability to successfully complete the intended ventral hernia repair. We continue to advance through the approval process required to perform our first clinical procedures. We are maintaining close collaboration with reviewers in this process, providing necessary information for their review of the study design, methodology, and procedures. Beyond our development and clinical progress in the quarter, we are also pleased to announce our latest strategic hospital system partnership with UMass Memorial Medical Center, a premier health care system in the greater Boston area and clinical partner of the esteemed University of Massachusetts Chan Medical School. This collaboration will concentrate on optimizing critical elements of implementing a robotic system, including refining para operative practices, enhancing surgeon education through mentorship and system testing, and establishing ambassadorship activities to drive best practices and adoption of our version one point o system. Speaker 200:06:40UMass Memorial's regional prominence, academic focus, and close proximity to our Waltham headquarters make them an invaluable partner as we work to optimize the integration of our technology into hospital environments. This collaboration adds to our strong set of existing partnerships with several leading health care institutions and providers, including HCA Healthcare, University Hospitals, Pittsburgh Creates, Intermountain Health, and LSU Health New Orleans. These strategic collaborations, combined with the unwavering commitment of our team, give us a strong conviction and our capability to realize our corporate mission and achieve our objectives for the year. We are increasingly optimistic that the progress made in the first quarter will enable us to showcase the groundbreaking value of our V1.0 system in a clinical setting later this year, a pivotal moment which we are keenly focused on. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Sarah to review our first quarter financial results. Speaker 300:07:43Thank you, Adam. Total operating expenses for the first quarter of twenty twenty five were $15,700,000 a 2% decrease compared to $16,100,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. R and D expenses for the first quarter of twenty twenty five were $9,400,000 compared to $10,000,000 in the first quarter of 'twenty four. General and administrative expenses for the first quarter of 'twenty five were $5,300,000 compared to $5,000,000 in the first quarter of 'twenty four. And first quarter twenty twenty five sales and marketing expenses were $1,000,000 essentially flat from the prior year period. Speaker 300:08:25Further, adjusted net loss for the first quarter of twenty twenty five was $15,300,000 or $2.58 per share as compared to $15,100,000 or also $2.58 per share in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. GAAP net loss for the first quarter of twenty twenty five was $15,400,000 or $2.6 per share. This compares to a net loss of $17,000,000 or $2.9 per share in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. For a reconciliation of all non GAAP measures to GAAP, please review our earnings press release. We ended the first quarter of this year with approximately $37,000,000 of cash, cash equivalents and short term investments on our balance sheet. Speaker 300:09:17This represents our first quarter cash burn rate of approximately 12,000,000 We continue to expect full year 2025 cash burn to be approximately $50,000,000 and we remain committed to disciplined capital allocation. 2025 is off to a strong start, and we look forward to updating you as we progress with our business initiatives in the coming quarters. With that, I will turn the call back to Adam for closing remarks. Speaker 200:09:50Thanks, Sarah. Vicarious Surgical is on course for a transformative 2025. The team's solid first quarter performance puts us firmly on the path to achieving our first major clinical milestone later this year. Our achievements are, as ever, a direct result of the unwavering dedication of our team, coupled with the invaluable support of our investors and stakeholders. Thank you for your continued belief in Vicarious Surgical. Speaker 200:10:23And thank you to everyone who joined the call today. We appreciate your support and look forward to updating you on our continued progress. Nadia, we're ready for questions. Operator00:10:35Thank you. Our first question goes to Ryan Zinnerman of BTIG. Ryan, please go ahead. Speaker 400:10:57Hi, everyone. This is Izzy on for Ryan. Thank you for taking the questions. And Sarah, congrats on your new role here. Just to start out, given your current cash balance right now and the expectations for burn through the year, I was just curious what assurances you can give to investors about your continued ability to fund operations? Speaker 300:11:20So hi. Nice to hear from you, and thank you for the question. So our main focus is on disciplined spending, ensuring that we stay within budget while also ensuring that we produce a safe and effective product. So we're reviewing all costs, ensuring that our cash is being used in the most effective way possible. Additionally, we are thinking strategically about our our financing. Speaker 300:11:47We're currently evaluating all options that are available to us. We do have a very supportive insider base. We believe that they'll be very supportive going forward as well, and hopefully some new investors coming coming to the table as well. With several upcoming exciting milestones ahead, you know, we're hoping to structure a financing around these. So I think, know, we're all very optimistic here, with with our ability to to finance the company. Speaker 400:12:21Got it. That that's helpful. Thank you, Sarah. And as we think about the supply, just curious if you guys are how you're feeling about your ability to supply any remaining components for the v one o build? Anything that we should be aware of there? Speaker 400:12:36Thank you for taking the questions. Speaker 200:12:39Yeah. So last quarter, we did note some challenges with our supply chain. It's obviously quite a complex supply chain for a fairly complex system overall. And that being said, we've managed this effectively, and we have not seen any, you know, further changes or adjustments in our schedule as a result of supply. So I would say, at the moment, we're feeling quite good about our supply chain. Speaker 200:13:08We have a pretty amazing team that manages the entire supply chain for our business, and they've been able to do so effectively in the last quarter. Speaker 400:13:19Got it. Thank you for taking the questions. Speaker 200:13:22Thank you. Operator00:13:25Thank you. And the next question goes to Josh Jennings of TD Cowen. Josh, please go ahead. Speaker 500:13:39Hi, this is Eric on for Josh. Thank you for taking the question. I wanted to ask about the technical dossier submission that should be unlocking your ability to conduct first patient testing. I was just hoping for a little more detail on the review timeline expectations. So I think you said in the past that it could be a few months, and I was just hoping we could talk through the assumption there and where it comes from and and also if that factors in some potential questions that you could be receiving from the agency. Speaker 200:14:07Yeah. Thanks, Eric. I appreciate the question. So overall, we're looking around mid this year at filing our technical dossier in country in order to do these first clinical patients. This includes a ton of information, all of the safety testing and performance data that's required to use our system in the first human cases later this year. Speaker 200:14:35So we're really excited about this. We've made a set of assumptions that enable us to do these first patients later this year, And that is based on a number of assumptions around other companies with similar products, similar levels of complexity that have filed in similar countries or actually the same country or the same agency in the last year or two. So we feel fairly confident in these assumptions. We have that does bake in some time to go back and forth, hence why we're filing in the middle of this year and doing those first cases later this year. Speaker 500:15:19Understood. That makes sense. And then on the hospital partners that you've been announcing, and congrats on the recent announcement today, to what extent could they be additive to your development process as we stand right now? Or is that really something that once you reach commercial stage, the benefit of those partners will become evident? Speaker 200:15:39So first, the the second part of your question there, 100%. I mean, we are working with these partners, and they are working with us because they're excited about what we're doing. And they want to see it in the operating room and be able to use it in the operating room. And this is a market that is 96% white space that has incredible opportunity and not nearly enough surgical robotics or robots out in the field today, which gives these hospital systems the opportunity and and the the availability to purchase our system when we're on market because of its differentiation and the promise of visualization, dexterity, sensing capabilities, and ability to operate. To to answer directly about what we're working on with them, especially with the the latest system with UMass, it's primarily focused around paraoperative workflow and procedures, really making sure not only that we've designed a system that is is excellent for workflow and able to do procedures in an efficient, streamlined manner, but on top of that, that we're actually designing the workflow around the system and around what makes sense for the operating room today. Speaker 500:16:57That makes sense. Thank you for the questions. Speaker 200:17:01Yeah. Thank you. Operator00:17:04Thank you.Read morePowered by