NASDAQ:SPRY ARS Pharmaceuticals Q1 2025 Earnings Report $15.49 +0.64 (+4.31%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$15.25 -0.24 (-1.55%) As of 05:31 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast ARS Pharmaceuticals EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.35Consensus EPS -$0.35Beat/MissMet ExpectationsOne Year Ago EPSN/AARS Pharmaceuticals Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$7.97 millionExpected Revenue$7.48 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$490.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AARS Pharmaceuticals Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/14/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, May 14, 2025Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsARS Pharmaceuticals' Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, August 5, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, August 6, 2025 at 9:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by ARS Pharmaceuticals Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 14, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning and welcome to the IRS Pharmaceuticals Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the company's prepared remarks, we will open the lines for questions. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I'll now turn the call over to Justin Schachtma, Chief Business Officer. Operator00:00:24Please proceed. Justin ChakmaChief Business Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:00:27Good morning, and thank you for joining our first quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. This morning, we issued a press release detailing our financial results and commercial highlights, which is available in the investor and media section of our website at ars pharma dot com. With me on the call are Richard Lowenthal, our co founder, president and CEO, who will review recent corporate updates and achievements. Eric Peraz, our Chief Commercial Officer, who will cover our commercial activities and progress. And Kathy Scott, our CFO, who will provide a summary of our financial results and cash position. Justin ChakmaChief Business Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:01:05Before we begin, note that today's remarks may contain forward looking statements. Actual results may differ materially. Please refer to our press release and SEC filings for further risk disclosures. With that, I'll turn the call over to Rich. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:01:22Thank you, Justin. Good morning, and thank you all for joining us on this call. We're off to a strong start in 2025 as we continue to execute the nationwide launch of Nefi, the first and only needle free epinephrine treatment approved for type one allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis. We believe Nefi has blockbuster potential, addressing a U. S. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:01:44Market potential of 3,000,000,000 net sales in the near term, comprised of about six point five million patients who have been prescribed epinephrine over the past three years. Beyond this, an additional thirteen point five million diagnosed patients have no epinephrine prescription, and many struggle with needle anxiety and portability concerns. Only three point two million patients actually fill their epinephrine auto injector prescriptions, underscoring the substantial unmet medical need that Nefi is uniquely positioned to solve. With only two quarters of commercialization so far, Nefi is gaining traction as a potential new standard of care in this space. In the first quarter of twenty twenty five, Nefi generated 7,800,000.0 in U. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:02:32S. Net product revenue, reflecting the continuously growing demand among physicians, patients, and caregivers for an alternative to traditional auto injectors. We started this year with 27 commercial insurance coverage, and now have reached 57% coverage with more payer discussions ongoing. We are entering the peak epinephrine prescribing season during the summer with strong momentum, and with additional health insurance coverage anticipated in the coming months, we also expect to generate additional demand through our DTC consumer awareness campaign that launches tomorrow. This demand is supported by the real world evidence of adoption by thousands of healthcare providers who have prescribed Nefeo ready. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:03:18In addition, thousands more have participated in our Nefi Experience Program using Nefi during oral food challenges and immunotherapy treatments in the clinic. This month, we also reached a major milestone. In addition to our two milligram dose for children and adults weighing thirty kilograms or greater. Nefi one milligram was approved by the FDA in early March of this year and is now available at pharmacies across The U. S. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:03:46For children weighing between fifteen and thirty kilograms. The availability of this pediatric dose is particularly important as the one milligram dose represents twenty three percent of all epinephrine units dispensed in 2024 and more than half of all epinephrine prescriptions for children. NEPHY offers caregivers and young patients a reliable and easy to use option, and we ensured that it was available before summer travel, camps, and back to school preparations. To further strengthen our commercial reach, including to key pediatricians, we recently expanded our strategic collaboration with AOK Abello, a global leader in allergy care, ahead of this peak summer prescribing season. This co promotion agreement expands our direct promotional network for Nefi to over 20,000 healthcare providers across The United States, including targeted outreach to approximately 9,000 pediatricians, accelerating our efforts to position NEFI as the leading epinephrine option for both adults and children. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:04:52This partnership builds on our broader global relationship with AOK. Under this agreement, ARS will continue to focus on allergists and the highest volume pediatricians and PCPs in The United States and retains full control over all aspects of U. S. Commercialization, including marketing, medical affairs, market access, production, and distribution. Lastly, regulatory reviews are underway for Nefi in The U. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:05:19K, Canada, Japan, China, and Australia, with decisions and commercial launches in these countries expected to begin in mid-twenty twenty five through the first half of twenty twenty six. To summarize, this is a year of execution for ARRIS. We aim to deepen physician engagement, expand access, and lay the groundwork for a global commercial footprint for NESI supported by our partners. I'll turn the call over to Eric for a more detailed review of our commercial progress. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:05:51Thanks, Rich. Our commercial strategy is built on three key pillars, driving healthcare provider adoption, securing market access, and increasing patient awareness. Since launch, our sales team has directly engaged over 10,000 healthcare providers. More than fifty percent of these providers have prescribed Nepi. Of the prescriptions submitted to date, nearly ninety percent have come from top decile targets. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:06:16We view this as a strong endorsement from leading experts who treat the highest number of patients at risk for allergic reactions. Approximately 2,500 healthcare providers have also enrolled in our Net the Experience Program and over 13,000 units have been placed in offices for use during anaphylactic events. This hands on experience has led to numerous physician testimonials that highlights the positive impact NEPE is having in clinical practice. With the recent availability of the one milligram dose, we'll be adding it to our NEPE experience program and we'll collect additional information on both the one milligram and two milligram doses. We plan to share the physician survey data from our NEPHE experience program in various medical forums later this year. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:07:05As Rich mentioned, we continue to make progress in payer access. We have secured commercial coverage across more than 30 formulary platforms now including UnitedHealthcare. Currently over fifty seven percent of all US commercial lives have access to Nepi. We are approaching a tipping point in market access that will enable more healthcare providers to prescribe Nepi without restrictions. In the coming months as patients schedule appointments and visit their allergy care providers, we anticipate that access to Nepi will become quicker and easier. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:07:40For patients within commercial insurance, our assistance program ensures that most individuals will only have a $25 copay, which is less than the typical $40 for a generic injector. We are making it easier for patients as the copay support is now automatically applied at the point of sale in retail pharmacies. Additionally, for eligible patients who are uninsured or underinsured, we provide Nepi at no cost through our patient assistance program. These programs reflect our commitment to ensure that all patients at risk of allergic reaction have access to this potentially life saving treatment. As we turn to the third pillar of our commercial strategy, patient awareness, we are excited to announce the launch of a broad and comprehensive direct to consumer campaign that will redefine the epinephrine landscape and establish NEPHI as a household name. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:08:33Our campaign titled Hello NEPHI, Goodbye Needles will debut tomorrow. We're utilizing a multichannel strategy to reach patients, parents and caregivers where they are, including connected TV, broadcast, social media platforms, health related websites, print pharmacies, and point of care settings. Our data driven media plan aims to engage high value audiences during key seasonal periods, such as back to school and the availability of our one milligram dose. We expect to reach ninety five percent of severe allergy patients and their caregivers. Our investment is essential for achieving our goals of raising awareness and encouraging adoption. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:09:15Every aspect of this campaign is designed to empower patients and their caregivers to position Nepi as a standard of care and drive prescription growth. We believe our DTC campaign could generate significant revenue in the second half of twenty twenty five and beyond, while establishing Nepi as a leading brand in severe allergy care. I'll now pass the call over to Kathy to walk through our financials. Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:09:39Thank you, Eric. The details of our financial results can be found in our earnings press release and 10 Q filing. So I'll provide a summary. For the first quarter of twenty twenty five, we recorded total revenue of $8,000,000 This is comprised of $7,800,000 in U. S. Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:09:56Net product revenue for NEPI, and we expect to see a continued ramp up in product revenue as our commercial efforts accelerate. In addition, we had 200,000.0 in collaboration revenue, which was the recognition of deferred revenue from performance obligations related to our collaboration and license agreement with ALK. Under our new co promotion agreement with ALK, ARS will continue to recognize all net product revenue in The US and retain full responsibility for commercialization. NEPI will be detailed by ALK sales representatives in primary position for the first two years and co primary position during the last two years of the four year agreement. Additional terms of our co promotional agreement can be found in our eight ks and 10 Q filings. Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:10:48In terms of our operating expenses, cost of goods sold for the first quarter was 1,100,000.0. Our COGS continues to benefit from some inventory that was expensed prior to FDA approval in August 2024. R and D expenses for the first quarter were 3,000,000, primarily related to clinical expenses and product development. Sales, general and administrative expenses were 41,100,000.0 for the first quarter, largely tied to personnel, sales and marketing expenses associated with the commercialization of NEPI in The US. As Eric noted, we are launching a comprehensive DTC campaign tomorrow, which has a planned investment of 40,000,000 to $50,000,000 for the remainder of 2025. Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:11:37The bulk of this expense will be recognized in our SG and A in the second and third quarters of the year. And we believe we will start seeing the benefits of the DTC campaign starting in Q3 twenty twenty five. Also, with the planned DTC spend and additional investments in pediatric access and commercialization with our partner ALK, we project total twenty twenty five operating expenses of between $210,000,000 and $220,000,000 excluding stock based compensation and cost of goods sold. The ARK co promotion agreement adds approximately $8,000,000 in operating expense to the previous guidance for 2025. We believe this is a solid investment in our future growth potential in the pediatric market. Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:12:23ARS's portion of the commercial expenses under the co promotion agreement with ALK will be recorded as an expense on our P and L for the first year of the agreement, but will accrue and not be paid in cash to ALK until the second year of the agreement. Any future performance based payments to ALK based on achieving certain market share thresholds are expected to be recognized as operating expenses. Lastly, we reported a net loss of 33,900,000.0 or $0.35 per share for the first quarter. Overall, we are well capitalized today with a disciplined and strategic investment approach to support the commercial execution of NEPI, while also advancing development of our nasal epinephrine program in new indications, Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:13:10such Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:13:10as urticaria. As of 03/31/2025, we had cash, cash equivalents and short term investments of 275,700,000.0. We reiterate today that based on our current plans, we have an operating runway of at least three years. With that, I'll pass the call back over to Rich. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:13:31Thank you, Kathy. As you heard, we are executing from a position of strength. We've seen the momentum across the board from strong early revenue and formulary wins to physician testimonials and real world adoption. This reinforces our belief that Nefi is a truly transformative product. I am proud of the work our team has done, and I'm grateful to our partners, the medical and advocacy communities, and above all else, the patients and caregivers for their support and enthusiasm. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:14:03Operator, please open the line for questions. Operator00:14:06Thank you. And as a reminder, to ask a question, press 11 on your telephone And it comes from the line of Ryan Jesner with Raymond James. Please proceed. Ryan DeschnerVice President - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:14:37Good morning. Thanks for the question. Curious how much of the 1Q sales figure is attributed to inventory and how you're thinking about inventory execution over the next few quarters going into peak epinephrine season as well as following it? And I have a follow-up. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:14:52Yeah, hi, this is Rich Lone for Ryan. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:14:55How are you? Our first quarter numbers were very little influenced by inventory. We're seeing fairly steady inventories at this point. And it was prior to the one milligram being launched, so this was all two milligram sales, of course. But we don't think we had much influence on the sales this quarter. Ryan DeschnerVice President - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:15:20Got it. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:15:21And what would the gross to net discount look like in the first quarter? How meaningful was that change from fourth quarter to first quarter? Kathy can give you the full details, but as expected, the gross to net will slowly come down towards the 50% mark. We're seeing a good uptake of insurance coverage and fewer cash sales, and that will obviously bring down gross to net when we get better insurance coverage. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:15:50But Kathy, you want to speak to the gross to net in this quarter? Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:15:53Sure. Good morning, Ryan. Yes, Q4 was definitely a higher gross to net than Q1. As Rich said, our payer coverage is coming online, And we were kind of hovering around the 60, a little over 60% for Q1, but do expect that to go down to closer to 50% as we go forward in 2025. Ryan DeschnerVice President - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:16:16Thanks, Kathy. Thanks, Rich. Operator00:16:18Thank you so much. One moment for our next question. And it comes from the line of Josh Schemer with Cantor. Please proceed. Josh SchimmerManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:16:29Thanks for taking the questions. Just a couple of quick ones. First, when you've worked through the inventory on hand, what do you expect cost of goods to settle out at? And then for the, I think, 50% of commercial lives that have access, can you confirm that there are no prior auth requirements for access to NFE for them? Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:16:58Sorry, can you repeat the second question, Josh? Josh SchimmerManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:17:01The update was over 50% of commercial lives have access to NFI. Just want to make sure that there are no prior auth requirements those patients. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:17:11Right. Okay. So, let's start there. Currently, about 57% of people have coverage with no prior authorization. Okay, if you count with prior authorization, we're probably close to 90%, Josh. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:17:25So, we're not really considering the prior authorization as a full coverage, partial, but not full. We do see good approval rates of prior authorizations between 6080%, depending on the insurer. But again, we got to get the doctors to write those prior authorizations, so that's a barrier. But 57% right now have coverage on Nefi without any prior authorization or any other paperwork required. They can get a prescription and go to the pharmacy and pick up the prescription at the pharmacy. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:18:03Okay. And then with regards to the first question, I I don't believe we've given details on the COGS other than generally the the cost of goods are are, you know, in the ballpark of less they're pretty low. I don't think we've given exact guidance. Have we, Justin, on this? Justin ChakmaChief Business Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:18:30No, I think the question was whether as we use up our inventory, what happens to cost of goods? Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:18:40Kathy, do you want to speak to that? Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:18:44Sure, no, we definitely have, as disclosed in our 10 Q, we've got some no cost inventory that was expensed prior to FDA approval. So as we wean that into our inventory, which should be kind of over the next eighteen months or so, we would expect that inventory COGS the COGS would increase slightly, But for the most part, though, that zero cost inventory is the raw materials that we're still paying for manufacturing for those for the inventory that's that's beating COGS in the near term. Josh SchimmerManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:19:21Okay, thank you. Operator00:19:23Thank you. One moment, please. Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director, Biotechnology Analyst at Leerink Partners00:19:37Partners. Please proceed. Hey, morning everyone. A couple from me. Could you talk about the strength of the Nefi experience program and helping to convert possible later adopter physicians into broader prescribers of Nefi? Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director, Biotechnology Analyst at Leerink Partners00:19:53And what is the feedback been so far in terms of some details you've heard recently about use of Nefi there? Any updates on single versus twice dosing of Nefi for example? Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:20:05Yeah, so I can give you a little update. So, as Eric pointed out earlier, the Nefi experience program has been very, very successful. More than 2,500 physicians are enrolled and have Nefi. A lot of them have used everything we provided, so we are going to be expanding the program to not only include the one milligram, but possibly also for those doctors that have already used their supply of Nefi two milligram to give them additional supply of two milligram. With the outcome so far, we're seeing very good results just by surveying the sites that have actually administered Nefi to patients, the experiences are coming back very positive. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:20:51The results are basically looking like injections. So, still around ninety percent are getting a response with a single dose of nefi. About ten percent are needing a second dose. That's the same as what's observed with injection. So, we believe that's very positive feedback. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:21:10And in general, the doctors have been very positive about their experience so far. So, we are planning to potentially publish some of this shortly. We could then obviously be able to use that to help other doctors that may be still reluctant or still questioning whether real world data is available, because this is a very large subset of real world data right now. And then, we are looking forward to the one milligram being out there and being used as well, since a lot of these children that get oral food challenge are younger. And then, maybe towards the American College meeting, we may also put out an abstract on the NEPHE experience program and the results. Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director, Biotechnology Analyst at Leerink Partners00:21:57Got it. That helps. And a quick follow-up for me. On the payer fronts and insurance coverage, how are you tracking against your goal of, I think, 80% commercial lives by 3Q? And could you remind us, are there any payers still in negotiations or in progress right now that you would need to secure to get there? Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:22:18Yeah. I think, well, there's certainly a number of payers that we're still working with. We do have the contract with Zynq, but we're still working with Caremark and Aetna to cover NEFI under that agreement. So, that's obviously a big insurer that we're still working with to get final agreement on. We're also working with Prime and other Blue Cross companies, of course, to get agreement with a lot of them. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:22:45We do have some Blue Cross companies already covering. We generally have a scorecard on our website, so it's fairly transparent as to who's covering and who's still pending coverage. But, again, even Caremark right now is accepting PAs and approving at a very high percentage, as I said, in the upper range of the 60 to 80% I mentioned. So, they are very, very quickly approving of prior authorizations, but they are still requiring a prior authorization for NEFI at this point. But we are trying to work through that. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:23:21So, those are some of the bigger ones that we want to try to get across finish line to get towards that 80% coverage. But in general, with prior authorization, we're already above 90%. There's only a handful of companies that are actually blocking NEFI right now. So, that's actually very positive as well. Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director, Biotechnology Analyst at Leerink Partners00:23:45Yep. Sounds good. Thanks. Operator00:23:48Thank you. Our next question comes from Andres Arguirides with Oppenheimer. Please proceed. Andres, your line is open. We're ready for your question. Operator00:24:07Okay. We'll go back to the next question. Our next question comes from Lachlan Hambury Brown with William Blair. Please proceed. Lachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William Blair00:24:22Hey, guys. Thanks for the questions. I was wondering if you could provide any detail on the number of prescriptions that were actually written and filled in the quarter as we try to understand what the sort of capture rate of IQVIA and other providers are? And could you provide any color on you've talked about the PAs and the high success rate there. Can you talk about how many of the prescriptions in the past quarter have been covered versus required a prior auth? Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:24:51Okay. I think, Eric, you should probably take that question. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:24:55Sure. Sounds good. So, first, when we look at the prescription data through IQVIA, we've talked about this before, that it's not a % capture of everything. Our cash prescriptions through Blink are not covered. But roughly, if you look at the extended unit data on a weekly basis, it's about, 13,000 prescriptions, or or units. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:25:16But again, that's not a complete, capture. And then as far as the PAs, if you look at the beginning of this year, we were looking at about 70% of prescriptions required a PA. That's down to about 45%. So as Rich went through and I went through in our comments, we're seeing the PAs come down, which is a very positive thing. We work closely with the doctors and obviously their staff to submit the PAs. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:25:45We're continuing to drive that. And I think with six to seven months under our belt, we have really good insights in terms of the criteria that's evaluated in terms of an approval of a PA. So our sales team continues to share that information with office managers those individuals in the office that are responsible for those PAs. Lachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William Blair00:26:09Great, thanks. And could you also talk about the sort of overlap between the Nefi experienced docs and the high prescribers? I mean, are the 7,000 odd doctors in the Nefi experienced program? Are they all in that of the high prescribing bucket at the moment? How's that sort of conversion looking? Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:26:29Yeah, Rich, I can take that one too. So, when we start looking at kind of our first, I'll say from a decile perspective, about 81% of our decile tens, that's the highest volume of physicians, are writing for nephews, is great. If you look at the combination of eights, nines and tens, it's about 75. We do see that doctors that are part of the experience program on average are writing about two and a half to three times more than the overall average that we're seeing at a national level. So that program is exactly doing what we expected in terms of building trust and confidence. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:27:07Doctors really like it because they're able to get firsthand experience. And when they talk to patients, they can reference that and tell stories about what they've seen in their own clinical practice. So as Rich said, we're looking to get that out more broadly in the second half of the year, but we're starting to do that already too with our peer to peer education, our speaker programs. Most of the speakers are part of the program and have had firsthand experience. So they're able to share that when they're speaking to other healthcare providers and their peers. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:27:34So we're going to continue driving that because we clearly know that this program is really hitting the mark of what we expected it to do. Lachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William Blair00:27:43Thanks. Operator00:27:45Thank you. Next question is from Andre Argyris with Oppenheimer. Please proceed. Andreas ArgyridesManaging Director & Senior Analyst - Biotechnology at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:27:55Good morning, and thanks for taking our question. Sorry for the disruption there earlier. Rich, can you just talk about how you're thinking about the rest of the year in terms of I know you're not providing guidance, but how the Q1 results are tracking for that inflection point in the second half of the year? Thanks. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:28:19Yeah. I think I think we're still tracking according to plan and exactly where we believe we should be right now. We are obviously expecting to see that inflection in the third quarter. The August, September timeframe tends to be peak sales for this product, especially with the children. Our sales are still heavily weighted towards children with the two milligram. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:28:43We expect that to even be expanded, greater focus on children with the one milligram. So, we do expect to see that inflection point start this summer. And with the DTC campaign and one milligram available, we think that that's where we'll start to see a real upturn in market share. Andreas ArgyridesManaging Director & Senior Analyst - Biotechnology at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:29:07And then just a quick follow-up. Do you still think that prior ops are the biggest impediment at the moment? And so when you get to the broad access that you're guiding towards, that that'll be a real boost? Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:29:27Yeah, I mean, think the prior authorizations when we have low insurance coverage is an impediment. When we start to get higher and higher up in insurance coverage, there's fewer prior auth the docs have to deal with, and they're more than happy to write prior authorizations. They just don't want to write too many. So, it's a matter of volume. So, we do see the number of prior authorizations coming down. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:29:56We see the approval rates increasing. So, that's a good sign. And that encourages doctors to continue to write prior authorizations for those patients that are not getting automatic insurance coverage without paperwork. So, that's encouraging. So, we do think it's a headwind, but it becomes less and less and less as time goes by because the remaining patients that are not covered are those insurance companies that are delaying. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:30:29The doctors are more willing to write the prior authorizations because there's just fewer of them. Does that make sense? Andreas ArgyridesManaging Director & Senior Analyst - Biotechnology at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:30:36It does. Thanks, and congrats on the quarter. I was hoping I Andreas ArgyridesManaging Director & Senior Analyst - Biotechnology at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:30:41could get you. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:30:41Thank you. Operator00:30:43Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Louise Chen with Scotiabank. Louise ChenManaging Director at Scotiabank00:30:50Hi, thanks for taking my questions here. So I just wanted to ask you how we can think about the sales targets that ALK has to hit in order to get to the performance based payments that you've discussed? And then the second thing is, what is your market share now? Where do you hope to be by the end of the year? Thank you. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:31:10Eric, I think you should take that question, if okay. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:31:14Yeah, let me take the second part first. So when you look at market share overall in the category of the basket of, epinephrine across the board, brand and generic, we have about a one point, 3% share. But what we also focus on more importantly is our targets of the doctors that we're calling on directly. That's about 6.2. And then we also have super targets, which is about 7.5. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:31:40So these are doctors that we spend extra time in terms of our promotion and focus. As far as the ALK co promote, this is a great opportunity that we are very excited about. Obviously, we're able to expand our footprint of the number of reps. We're going to grow from about 12,500 physicians with direct promotion up to about 20,000. So we have some milestone targets in terms of market share that we think is very reasonable to hit those targets. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:32:13And especially as we've articulated, we've got so many catalysts coming up in the, next three to six months here with the one milligram, the DTC commercial and continued, payer coverage improving. So we feel really confident about this co promote and look forward to the impact that they're going to have in the pediatric space. Louise ChenManaging Director at Scotiabank00:32:34Okay, thank you. Operator00:32:36Thank you. And our last question is from Laxman Hambaughy Brown with William Blair. Please proceed. Lachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William Blair00:32:45Hey. Thanks for the follow-up. I just wanted to confirm, Kathy, I think you said you're expecting most of the sort of DTC marketing to be in Q2 and Q3. So I wanted to confirm, should we sort of expect a tail off in Q4? Or is it more that most of the sort of growth will be Q2 and Q3, and then it will be steady thereafter? Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:33:03Sure. We do expect to spend some in Q4. But as I said in my remarks, the majority in Q2 and Q3. And the as which set the inflection point for sales, we would expect to start really in Q3. So did that answer your question? Lachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William Blair00:33:21Yep. Yep. Thanks. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:33:23And Auckland, just to add to that, I mean, we obviously are doing that very intentionally to front load the awareness campaign before the summer period, right, which is really August, September is where you'll see the big peak in epinephrine sales. So, we want to make sure we get to all the consumers and make sure they're aware that nephews are available. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:33:49So, the sooner we can do that in the summer period, the better. So, we've obviously put a lot of the spend earlier and then we'll taper off after that and get to a steady state. Lachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William Blair00:34:03Okay, thanks. Operator00:34:05Thank Operator00:34:06you. And with that, ladies and gentlemen, we conclude our Q and A session and program for today. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJustin ChakmaChief Business OfficerKathleen ScottChief Financial OfficerAnalystsRichard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS PharmaceuticalsEric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS PharmaceuticalsRyan DeschnerVice President - Equity Research at Raymond James FinancialJosh SchimmerManaging Director at Cantor FitzgeraldRoanna RuizSenior Managing Director, Biotechnology Analyst at Leerink PartnersLachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William BlairAndreas ArgyridesManaging Director & Senior Analyst - Biotechnology at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.Louise ChenManaging Director at ScotiabankPowered by Key Takeaways In the first quarter, Nefi achieved $7.8 million in U.S. net product revenue, reflecting growing demand for the needle-free epinephrine treatment. Nefi is now available in both the 2 mg adult dose and the newly FDA-approved 1 mg pediatric dose, covering more than half of all children’s epinephrine prescriptions. Payer coverage has expanded to 57% of U.S. commercial lives, with ongoing negotiations aimed at exceeding 80% by the third quarter. The company has broadened its commercial reach through a co-promotion with ALK to 20,000 healthcare providers (including 9,000 pediatricians) and is launching the “Hello NEFI, Goodbye Needles” DTC campaign ahead of peak season. ARS reported a Q1 net loss of $33.9 million and holds $275.7 million in cash and short-term investments, supporting over three years of operating runway. AI Generated. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning and welcome to the IRS Pharmaceuticals Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the company's prepared remarks, we will open the lines for questions. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I'll now turn the call over to Justin Schachtma, Chief Business Officer. Operator00:00:24Please proceed. Justin ChakmaChief Business Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:00:27Good morning, and thank you for joining our first quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. This morning, we issued a press release detailing our financial results and commercial highlights, which is available in the investor and media section of our website at ars pharma dot com. With me on the call are Richard Lowenthal, our co founder, president and CEO, who will review recent corporate updates and achievements. Eric Peraz, our Chief Commercial Officer, who will cover our commercial activities and progress. And Kathy Scott, our CFO, who will provide a summary of our financial results and cash position. Justin ChakmaChief Business Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:01:05Before we begin, note that today's remarks may contain forward looking statements. Actual results may differ materially. Please refer to our press release and SEC filings for further risk disclosures. With that, I'll turn the call over to Rich. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:01:22Thank you, Justin. Good morning, and thank you all for joining us on this call. We're off to a strong start in 2025 as we continue to execute the nationwide launch of Nefi, the first and only needle free epinephrine treatment approved for type one allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis. We believe Nefi has blockbuster potential, addressing a U. S. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:01:44Market potential of 3,000,000,000 net sales in the near term, comprised of about six point five million patients who have been prescribed epinephrine over the past three years. Beyond this, an additional thirteen point five million diagnosed patients have no epinephrine prescription, and many struggle with needle anxiety and portability concerns. Only three point two million patients actually fill their epinephrine auto injector prescriptions, underscoring the substantial unmet medical need that Nefi is uniquely positioned to solve. With only two quarters of commercialization so far, Nefi is gaining traction as a potential new standard of care in this space. In the first quarter of twenty twenty five, Nefi generated 7,800,000.0 in U. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:02:32S. Net product revenue, reflecting the continuously growing demand among physicians, patients, and caregivers for an alternative to traditional auto injectors. We started this year with 27 commercial insurance coverage, and now have reached 57% coverage with more payer discussions ongoing. We are entering the peak epinephrine prescribing season during the summer with strong momentum, and with additional health insurance coverage anticipated in the coming months, we also expect to generate additional demand through our DTC consumer awareness campaign that launches tomorrow. This demand is supported by the real world evidence of adoption by thousands of healthcare providers who have prescribed Nefeo ready. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:03:18In addition, thousands more have participated in our Nefi Experience Program using Nefi during oral food challenges and immunotherapy treatments in the clinic. This month, we also reached a major milestone. In addition to our two milligram dose for children and adults weighing thirty kilograms or greater. Nefi one milligram was approved by the FDA in early March of this year and is now available at pharmacies across The U. S. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:03:46For children weighing between fifteen and thirty kilograms. The availability of this pediatric dose is particularly important as the one milligram dose represents twenty three percent of all epinephrine units dispensed in 2024 and more than half of all epinephrine prescriptions for children. NEPHY offers caregivers and young patients a reliable and easy to use option, and we ensured that it was available before summer travel, camps, and back to school preparations. To further strengthen our commercial reach, including to key pediatricians, we recently expanded our strategic collaboration with AOK Abello, a global leader in allergy care, ahead of this peak summer prescribing season. This co promotion agreement expands our direct promotional network for Nefi to over 20,000 healthcare providers across The United States, including targeted outreach to approximately 9,000 pediatricians, accelerating our efforts to position NEFI as the leading epinephrine option for both adults and children. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:04:52This partnership builds on our broader global relationship with AOK. Under this agreement, ARS will continue to focus on allergists and the highest volume pediatricians and PCPs in The United States and retains full control over all aspects of U. S. Commercialization, including marketing, medical affairs, market access, production, and distribution. Lastly, regulatory reviews are underway for Nefi in The U. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:05:19K, Canada, Japan, China, and Australia, with decisions and commercial launches in these countries expected to begin in mid-twenty twenty five through the first half of twenty twenty six. To summarize, this is a year of execution for ARRIS. We aim to deepen physician engagement, expand access, and lay the groundwork for a global commercial footprint for NESI supported by our partners. I'll turn the call over to Eric for a more detailed review of our commercial progress. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:05:51Thanks, Rich. Our commercial strategy is built on three key pillars, driving healthcare provider adoption, securing market access, and increasing patient awareness. Since launch, our sales team has directly engaged over 10,000 healthcare providers. More than fifty percent of these providers have prescribed Nepi. Of the prescriptions submitted to date, nearly ninety percent have come from top decile targets. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:06:16We view this as a strong endorsement from leading experts who treat the highest number of patients at risk for allergic reactions. Approximately 2,500 healthcare providers have also enrolled in our Net the Experience Program and over 13,000 units have been placed in offices for use during anaphylactic events. This hands on experience has led to numerous physician testimonials that highlights the positive impact NEPE is having in clinical practice. With the recent availability of the one milligram dose, we'll be adding it to our NEPE experience program and we'll collect additional information on both the one milligram and two milligram doses. We plan to share the physician survey data from our NEPHE experience program in various medical forums later this year. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:07:05As Rich mentioned, we continue to make progress in payer access. We have secured commercial coverage across more than 30 formulary platforms now including UnitedHealthcare. Currently over fifty seven percent of all US commercial lives have access to Nepi. We are approaching a tipping point in market access that will enable more healthcare providers to prescribe Nepi without restrictions. In the coming months as patients schedule appointments and visit their allergy care providers, we anticipate that access to Nepi will become quicker and easier. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:07:40For patients within commercial insurance, our assistance program ensures that most individuals will only have a $25 copay, which is less than the typical $40 for a generic injector. We are making it easier for patients as the copay support is now automatically applied at the point of sale in retail pharmacies. Additionally, for eligible patients who are uninsured or underinsured, we provide Nepi at no cost through our patient assistance program. These programs reflect our commitment to ensure that all patients at risk of allergic reaction have access to this potentially life saving treatment. As we turn to the third pillar of our commercial strategy, patient awareness, we are excited to announce the launch of a broad and comprehensive direct to consumer campaign that will redefine the epinephrine landscape and establish NEPHI as a household name. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:08:33Our campaign titled Hello NEPHI, Goodbye Needles will debut tomorrow. We're utilizing a multichannel strategy to reach patients, parents and caregivers where they are, including connected TV, broadcast, social media platforms, health related websites, print pharmacies, and point of care settings. Our data driven media plan aims to engage high value audiences during key seasonal periods, such as back to school and the availability of our one milligram dose. We expect to reach ninety five percent of severe allergy patients and their caregivers. Our investment is essential for achieving our goals of raising awareness and encouraging adoption. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:09:15Every aspect of this campaign is designed to empower patients and their caregivers to position Nepi as a standard of care and drive prescription growth. We believe our DTC campaign could generate significant revenue in the second half of twenty twenty five and beyond, while establishing Nepi as a leading brand in severe allergy care. I'll now pass the call over to Kathy to walk through our financials. Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:09:39Thank you, Eric. The details of our financial results can be found in our earnings press release and 10 Q filing. So I'll provide a summary. For the first quarter of twenty twenty five, we recorded total revenue of $8,000,000 This is comprised of $7,800,000 in U. S. Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:09:56Net product revenue for NEPI, and we expect to see a continued ramp up in product revenue as our commercial efforts accelerate. In addition, we had 200,000.0 in collaboration revenue, which was the recognition of deferred revenue from performance obligations related to our collaboration and license agreement with ALK. Under our new co promotion agreement with ALK, ARS will continue to recognize all net product revenue in The US and retain full responsibility for commercialization. NEPI will be detailed by ALK sales representatives in primary position for the first two years and co primary position during the last two years of the four year agreement. Additional terms of our co promotional agreement can be found in our eight ks and 10 Q filings. Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:10:48In terms of our operating expenses, cost of goods sold for the first quarter was 1,100,000.0. Our COGS continues to benefit from some inventory that was expensed prior to FDA approval in August 2024. R and D expenses for the first quarter were 3,000,000, primarily related to clinical expenses and product development. Sales, general and administrative expenses were 41,100,000.0 for the first quarter, largely tied to personnel, sales and marketing expenses associated with the commercialization of NEPI in The US. As Eric noted, we are launching a comprehensive DTC campaign tomorrow, which has a planned investment of 40,000,000 to $50,000,000 for the remainder of 2025. Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:11:37The bulk of this expense will be recognized in our SG and A in the second and third quarters of the year. And we believe we will start seeing the benefits of the DTC campaign starting in Q3 twenty twenty five. Also, with the planned DTC spend and additional investments in pediatric access and commercialization with our partner ALK, we project total twenty twenty five operating expenses of between $210,000,000 and $220,000,000 excluding stock based compensation and cost of goods sold. The ARK co promotion agreement adds approximately $8,000,000 in operating expense to the previous guidance for 2025. We believe this is a solid investment in our future growth potential in the pediatric market. Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:12:23ARS's portion of the commercial expenses under the co promotion agreement with ALK will be recorded as an expense on our P and L for the first year of the agreement, but will accrue and not be paid in cash to ALK until the second year of the agreement. Any future performance based payments to ALK based on achieving certain market share thresholds are expected to be recognized as operating expenses. Lastly, we reported a net loss of 33,900,000.0 or $0.35 per share for the first quarter. Overall, we are well capitalized today with a disciplined and strategic investment approach to support the commercial execution of NEPI, while also advancing development of our nasal epinephrine program in new indications, Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:13:10such Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:13:10as urticaria. As of 03/31/2025, we had cash, cash equivalents and short term investments of 275,700,000.0. We reiterate today that based on our current plans, we have an operating runway of at least three years. With that, I'll pass the call back over to Rich. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:13:31Thank you, Kathy. As you heard, we are executing from a position of strength. We've seen the momentum across the board from strong early revenue and formulary wins to physician testimonials and real world adoption. This reinforces our belief that Nefi is a truly transformative product. I am proud of the work our team has done, and I'm grateful to our partners, the medical and advocacy communities, and above all else, the patients and caregivers for their support and enthusiasm. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:14:03Operator, please open the line for questions. Operator00:14:06Thank you. And as a reminder, to ask a question, press 11 on your telephone And it comes from the line of Ryan Jesner with Raymond James. Please proceed. Ryan DeschnerVice President - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:14:37Good morning. Thanks for the question. Curious how much of the 1Q sales figure is attributed to inventory and how you're thinking about inventory execution over the next few quarters going into peak epinephrine season as well as following it? And I have a follow-up. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:14:52Yeah, hi, this is Rich Lone for Ryan. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:14:55How are you? Our first quarter numbers were very little influenced by inventory. We're seeing fairly steady inventories at this point. And it was prior to the one milligram being launched, so this was all two milligram sales, of course. But we don't think we had much influence on the sales this quarter. Ryan DeschnerVice President - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:15:20Got it. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:15:21And what would the gross to net discount look like in the first quarter? How meaningful was that change from fourth quarter to first quarter? Kathy can give you the full details, but as expected, the gross to net will slowly come down towards the 50% mark. We're seeing a good uptake of insurance coverage and fewer cash sales, and that will obviously bring down gross to net when we get better insurance coverage. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:15:50But Kathy, you want to speak to the gross to net in this quarter? Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:15:53Sure. Good morning, Ryan. Yes, Q4 was definitely a higher gross to net than Q1. As Rich said, our payer coverage is coming online, And we were kind of hovering around the 60, a little over 60% for Q1, but do expect that to go down to closer to 50% as we go forward in 2025. Ryan DeschnerVice President - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:16:16Thanks, Kathy. Thanks, Rich. Operator00:16:18Thank you so much. One moment for our next question. And it comes from the line of Josh Schemer with Cantor. Please proceed. Josh SchimmerManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:16:29Thanks for taking the questions. Just a couple of quick ones. First, when you've worked through the inventory on hand, what do you expect cost of goods to settle out at? And then for the, I think, 50% of commercial lives that have access, can you confirm that there are no prior auth requirements for access to NFE for them? Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:16:58Sorry, can you repeat the second question, Josh? Josh SchimmerManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:17:01The update was over 50% of commercial lives have access to NFI. Just want to make sure that there are no prior auth requirements those patients. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:17:11Right. Okay. So, let's start there. Currently, about 57% of people have coverage with no prior authorization. Okay, if you count with prior authorization, we're probably close to 90%, Josh. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:17:25So, we're not really considering the prior authorization as a full coverage, partial, but not full. We do see good approval rates of prior authorizations between 6080%, depending on the insurer. But again, we got to get the doctors to write those prior authorizations, so that's a barrier. But 57% right now have coverage on Nefi without any prior authorization or any other paperwork required. They can get a prescription and go to the pharmacy and pick up the prescription at the pharmacy. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:18:03Okay. And then with regards to the first question, I I don't believe we've given details on the COGS other than generally the the cost of goods are are, you know, in the ballpark of less they're pretty low. I don't think we've given exact guidance. Have we, Justin, on this? Justin ChakmaChief Business Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:18:30No, I think the question was whether as we use up our inventory, what happens to cost of goods? Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:18:40Kathy, do you want to speak to that? Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:18:44Sure, no, we definitely have, as disclosed in our 10 Q, we've got some no cost inventory that was expensed prior to FDA approval. So as we wean that into our inventory, which should be kind of over the next eighteen months or so, we would expect that inventory COGS the COGS would increase slightly, But for the most part, though, that zero cost inventory is the raw materials that we're still paying for manufacturing for those for the inventory that's that's beating COGS in the near term. Josh SchimmerManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:19:21Okay, thank you. Operator00:19:23Thank you. One moment, please. Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director, Biotechnology Analyst at Leerink Partners00:19:37Partners. Please proceed. Hey, morning everyone. A couple from me. Could you talk about the strength of the Nefi experience program and helping to convert possible later adopter physicians into broader prescribers of Nefi? Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director, Biotechnology Analyst at Leerink Partners00:19:53And what is the feedback been so far in terms of some details you've heard recently about use of Nefi there? Any updates on single versus twice dosing of Nefi for example? Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:20:05Yeah, so I can give you a little update. So, as Eric pointed out earlier, the Nefi experience program has been very, very successful. More than 2,500 physicians are enrolled and have Nefi. A lot of them have used everything we provided, so we are going to be expanding the program to not only include the one milligram, but possibly also for those doctors that have already used their supply of Nefi two milligram to give them additional supply of two milligram. With the outcome so far, we're seeing very good results just by surveying the sites that have actually administered Nefi to patients, the experiences are coming back very positive. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:20:51The results are basically looking like injections. So, still around ninety percent are getting a response with a single dose of nefi. About ten percent are needing a second dose. That's the same as what's observed with injection. So, we believe that's very positive feedback. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:21:10And in general, the doctors have been very positive about their experience so far. So, we are planning to potentially publish some of this shortly. We could then obviously be able to use that to help other doctors that may be still reluctant or still questioning whether real world data is available, because this is a very large subset of real world data right now. And then, we are looking forward to the one milligram being out there and being used as well, since a lot of these children that get oral food challenge are younger. And then, maybe towards the American College meeting, we may also put out an abstract on the NEPHE experience program and the results. Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director, Biotechnology Analyst at Leerink Partners00:21:57Got it. That helps. And a quick follow-up for me. On the payer fronts and insurance coverage, how are you tracking against your goal of, I think, 80% commercial lives by 3Q? And could you remind us, are there any payers still in negotiations or in progress right now that you would need to secure to get there? Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:22:18Yeah. I think, well, there's certainly a number of payers that we're still working with. We do have the contract with Zynq, but we're still working with Caremark and Aetna to cover NEFI under that agreement. So, that's obviously a big insurer that we're still working with to get final agreement on. We're also working with Prime and other Blue Cross companies, of course, to get agreement with a lot of them. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:22:45We do have some Blue Cross companies already covering. We generally have a scorecard on our website, so it's fairly transparent as to who's covering and who's still pending coverage. But, again, even Caremark right now is accepting PAs and approving at a very high percentage, as I said, in the upper range of the 60 to 80% I mentioned. So, they are very, very quickly approving of prior authorizations, but they are still requiring a prior authorization for NEFI at this point. But we are trying to work through that. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:23:21So, those are some of the bigger ones that we want to try to get across finish line to get towards that 80% coverage. But in general, with prior authorization, we're already above 90%. There's only a handful of companies that are actually blocking NEFI right now. So, that's actually very positive as well. Roanna RuizSenior Managing Director, Biotechnology Analyst at Leerink Partners00:23:45Yep. Sounds good. Thanks. Operator00:23:48Thank you. Our next question comes from Andres Arguirides with Oppenheimer. Please proceed. Andres, your line is open. We're ready for your question. Operator00:24:07Okay. We'll go back to the next question. Our next question comes from Lachlan Hambury Brown with William Blair. Please proceed. Lachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William Blair00:24:22Hey, guys. Thanks for the questions. I was wondering if you could provide any detail on the number of prescriptions that were actually written and filled in the quarter as we try to understand what the sort of capture rate of IQVIA and other providers are? And could you provide any color on you've talked about the PAs and the high success rate there. Can you talk about how many of the prescriptions in the past quarter have been covered versus required a prior auth? Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:24:51Okay. I think, Eric, you should probably take that question. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:24:55Sure. Sounds good. So, first, when we look at the prescription data through IQVIA, we've talked about this before, that it's not a % capture of everything. Our cash prescriptions through Blink are not covered. But roughly, if you look at the extended unit data on a weekly basis, it's about, 13,000 prescriptions, or or units. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:25:16But again, that's not a complete, capture. And then as far as the PAs, if you look at the beginning of this year, we were looking at about 70% of prescriptions required a PA. That's down to about 45%. So as Rich went through and I went through in our comments, we're seeing the PAs come down, which is a very positive thing. We work closely with the doctors and obviously their staff to submit the PAs. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:25:45We're continuing to drive that. And I think with six to seven months under our belt, we have really good insights in terms of the criteria that's evaluated in terms of an approval of a PA. So our sales team continues to share that information with office managers those individuals in the office that are responsible for those PAs. Lachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William Blair00:26:09Great, thanks. And could you also talk about the sort of overlap between the Nefi experienced docs and the high prescribers? I mean, are the 7,000 odd doctors in the Nefi experienced program? Are they all in that of the high prescribing bucket at the moment? How's that sort of conversion looking? Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:26:29Yeah, Rich, I can take that one too. So, when we start looking at kind of our first, I'll say from a decile perspective, about 81% of our decile tens, that's the highest volume of physicians, are writing for nephews, is great. If you look at the combination of eights, nines and tens, it's about 75. We do see that doctors that are part of the experience program on average are writing about two and a half to three times more than the overall average that we're seeing at a national level. So that program is exactly doing what we expected in terms of building trust and confidence. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:27:07Doctors really like it because they're able to get firsthand experience. And when they talk to patients, they can reference that and tell stories about what they've seen in their own clinical practice. So as Rich said, we're looking to get that out more broadly in the second half of the year, but we're starting to do that already too with our peer to peer education, our speaker programs. Most of the speakers are part of the program and have had firsthand experience. So they're able to share that when they're speaking to other healthcare providers and their peers. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:27:34So we're going to continue driving that because we clearly know that this program is really hitting the mark of what we expected it to do. Lachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William Blair00:27:43Thanks. Operator00:27:45Thank you. Next question is from Andre Argyris with Oppenheimer. Please proceed. Andreas ArgyridesManaging Director & Senior Analyst - Biotechnology at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:27:55Good morning, and thanks for taking our question. Sorry for the disruption there earlier. Rich, can you just talk about how you're thinking about the rest of the year in terms of I know you're not providing guidance, but how the Q1 results are tracking for that inflection point in the second half of the year? Thanks. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:28:19Yeah. I think I think we're still tracking according to plan and exactly where we believe we should be right now. We are obviously expecting to see that inflection in the third quarter. The August, September timeframe tends to be peak sales for this product, especially with the children. Our sales are still heavily weighted towards children with the two milligram. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:28:43We expect that to even be expanded, greater focus on children with the one milligram. So, we do expect to see that inflection point start this summer. And with the DTC campaign and one milligram available, we think that that's where we'll start to see a real upturn in market share. Andreas ArgyridesManaging Director & Senior Analyst - Biotechnology at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:29:07And then just a quick follow-up. Do you still think that prior ops are the biggest impediment at the moment? And so when you get to the broad access that you're guiding towards, that that'll be a real boost? Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:29:27Yeah, I mean, think the prior authorizations when we have low insurance coverage is an impediment. When we start to get higher and higher up in insurance coverage, there's fewer prior auth the docs have to deal with, and they're more than happy to write prior authorizations. They just don't want to write too many. So, it's a matter of volume. So, we do see the number of prior authorizations coming down. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:29:56We see the approval rates increasing. So, that's a good sign. And that encourages doctors to continue to write prior authorizations for those patients that are not getting automatic insurance coverage without paperwork. So, that's encouraging. So, we do think it's a headwind, but it becomes less and less and less as time goes by because the remaining patients that are not covered are those insurance companies that are delaying. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:30:29The doctors are more willing to write the prior authorizations because there's just fewer of them. Does that make sense? Andreas ArgyridesManaging Director & Senior Analyst - Biotechnology at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:30:36It does. Thanks, and congrats on the quarter. I was hoping I Andreas ArgyridesManaging Director & Senior Analyst - Biotechnology at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:30:41could get you. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:30:41Thank you. Operator00:30:43Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Louise Chen with Scotiabank. Louise ChenManaging Director at Scotiabank00:30:50Hi, thanks for taking my questions here. So I just wanted to ask you how we can think about the sales targets that ALK has to hit in order to get to the performance based payments that you've discussed? And then the second thing is, what is your market share now? Where do you hope to be by the end of the year? Thank you. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:31:10Eric, I think you should take that question, if okay. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:31:14Yeah, let me take the second part first. So when you look at market share overall in the category of the basket of, epinephrine across the board, brand and generic, we have about a one point, 3% share. But what we also focus on more importantly is our targets of the doctors that we're calling on directly. That's about 6.2. And then we also have super targets, which is about 7.5. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:31:40So these are doctors that we spend extra time in terms of our promotion and focus. As far as the ALK co promote, this is a great opportunity that we are very excited about. Obviously, we're able to expand our footprint of the number of reps. We're going to grow from about 12,500 physicians with direct promotion up to about 20,000. So we have some milestone targets in terms of market share that we think is very reasonable to hit those targets. Eric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:32:13And especially as we've articulated, we've got so many catalysts coming up in the, next three to six months here with the one milligram, the DTC commercial and continued, payer coverage improving. So we feel really confident about this co promote and look forward to the impact that they're going to have in the pediatric space. Louise ChenManaging Director at Scotiabank00:32:34Okay, thank you. Operator00:32:36Thank you. And our last question is from Laxman Hambaughy Brown with William Blair. Please proceed. Lachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William Blair00:32:45Hey. Thanks for the follow-up. I just wanted to confirm, Kathy, I think you said you're expecting most of the sort of DTC marketing to be in Q2 and Q3. So I wanted to confirm, should we sort of expect a tail off in Q4? Or is it more that most of the sort of growth will be Q2 and Q3, and then it will be steady thereafter? Kathleen ScottChief Financial Officer at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:33:03Sure. We do expect to spend some in Q4. But as I said in my remarks, the majority in Q2 and Q3. And the as which set the inflection point for sales, we would expect to start really in Q3. So did that answer your question? Lachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William Blair00:33:21Yep. Yep. Thanks. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:33:23And Auckland, just to add to that, I mean, we obviously are doing that very intentionally to front load the awareness campaign before the summer period, right, which is really August, September is where you'll see the big peak in epinephrine sales. So, we want to make sure we get to all the consumers and make sure they're aware that nephews are available. Richard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS Pharmaceuticals00:33:49So, the sooner we can do that in the summer period, the better. So, we've obviously put a lot of the spend earlier and then we'll taper off after that and get to a steady state. Lachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William Blair00:34:03Okay, thanks. Operator00:34:05Thank Operator00:34:06you. And with that, ladies and gentlemen, we conclude our Q and A session and program for today. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJustin ChakmaChief Business OfficerKathleen ScottChief Financial OfficerAnalystsRichard LowenthalCo Founder, President, CEO & Director at ARS PharmaceuticalsEric KarasChief Commercial Officer at ARS PharmaceuticalsRyan DeschnerVice President - Equity Research at Raymond James FinancialJosh SchimmerManaging Director at Cantor FitzgeraldRoanna RuizSenior Managing Director, Biotechnology Analyst at Leerink PartnersLachlan Hanbury-BrownBiotech Equity Research Analyst at William BlairAndreas ArgyridesManaging Director & Senior Analyst - Biotechnology at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.Louise ChenManaging Director at ScotiabankPowered by