NYSE:NVGS Navigator Q1 2025 Earnings Report $14.23 +0.24 (+1.72%) Closing price 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$14.20 -0.03 (-0.21%) As of 04:04 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Navigator EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.36Consensus EPS $0.30Beat/MissBeat by +$0.06One Year Ago EPSN/ANavigator Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$151.41 millionExpected Revenue$128.26 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$23.15 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ANavigator Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/14/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, May 15, 2025Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsNavigator's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, August 13, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, August 14, 2025 at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Navigator Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 15, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:00:00Conference Call for the First Quarter twenty twenty five Financial Results. On today's call, have Mads Peter Zakol, Chief Executive Officer Gary Chapman, Chief Financial Officer Oyvind Lindeman, Chief Commercial Officer and myself, Randy Gibbons, Executive Vice President of Investor Relations and Business Development in North America. I must advise you that this conference call is being recorded today. As we conduct today's presentation, we'll be making various forward looking statements. These statements include, but are not limited to the future expectations, plans and prospects from both a financial and operational perspective and are based on management assumptions, forecasts and expectations as of today's date, 05/15/2025. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:00:41Actual results may differ significantly from our forward looking information and financial forecast. Additional information about these factors and assumptions are included in our annual and quarterly reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. With that, I now pass the floor to Mads Peter Zacco, the company's Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, Mads. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:01:00Thank you so much. Good morning, good afternoon, and thank you for joining this Navigator Gas earnings call for Q1 twenty twenty five. As a start, I'll just review the key data from our Q1 twenty twenty five performance, and then I'll go over the outlook for the rest of the year. After that, Gary, Oyvind and Randy will discuss our results in more detail. In the first quarter, we again generated more revenues, up 13% compared to same period last year. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:01:29This was a new record quarterly revenue, and it was driven by both high utilization and higher rates. Income from our joint venture terminal was down significantly. Adjusted EBITDA for Q1 was $73,000,000 in line with both same period of 2024 and also Q4. The balance sheet is strong with a robust cash position even after investments into three secondhand vessels and further investments installments paid into the MGC newbuildings. With the recent $40,000,000 bond tap and the $300,000,000 refinancing proceeds, the cash balance will be substantially stronger this second quarter. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:02:10I'd like to add that the $300,000,000 refinancing was signed as planned in the middle of the most volatile trade environment that we've seen in decades. And this is at the lowest margins ever for Navigator and also, I think, showing the rock solid support and trust that we have from our banking partners. The return of capital continued in Q1 with both the €05 fixed dividend and a share buyback up to, in combination, 25% of net income. We're also pleased to announce another share repurchase authorization in the amount of an additional $50,000,000 enhancing shareholder returns, earnings per share and return on equity. Commercially, we pushed TCE rate back up higher and secured average Q1 TCE rates of $30,475 This is 8% higher than both previous quarter and same period last year. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:03:07We achieved utilization above 92%, in line with our guidance and higher than both Q4 of twenty twenty four and higher than the same period last year. We're again quite pleased with our ability to maintain robust TCE rates and utilization in a market that was hit by softer ethylene transport demand. To illustrate the softness, throughput at our joint venture ethylene export terminal was limited to 86,000 tonnes for the quarter, and this is, of course, much lower than the already soft fourth quarter and much below capacity. This was caused by continued effects from The U. S. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:03:44Cracker turnarounds, leading to reduced domestic supply, leading to higher domestic prices and as consequence, a narrow arbitrage. We expanded our fleet by acquiring three secondhand ethylene capable vessels at attractive prices. All three have now been taken over and deployed as planned. We also sold Navigator Venus, one of the original Navigator vessels, which was about to reach 25 years of age. The sale secured $17,500,000 of cash and a book gain of almost $13,000,000 Gradual fleet renewal remains a priority, and we are likely to sell more of our older tonnage. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:04:27The four last months have been challenging strategically, to say the least. It now seems that uncertainty is receding somewhat. We believe that the port fees, as announced by The U. S. Trade Representative, will not affect Navigator Gas negatively due to our vessel size and due to us being a service provider to U. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:04:48S. Energy exports. It now also seems that tariffs on Chinese import from The U. S. May be limited to 10%. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:04:56I guess in this context, it should be mentioned that over the past five years, China has received less than 10% of ethylene shipped from Morgans Point. But anyway, much can still change. With our diversified customer base, our trading capability and strong balance sheet, I believe we remain resilient even if geopolitics take an unexpected turn. April utilization was weaker than usual due to cargo cancellations and some customers pausing new vessel fixtures. The effect has now already been reversed, and the month of May showed gradual normalization in vessel utilization and likely a record high throughput at Mogens Point. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:05:39The vessel supply picture remains attractive with a Handysize order book of 9%. And in addition to this, now 22% of the global Handysize vessels on the water, they're more than 20 years of age. So the supply picture continues to look good. Now I'll pass it over to you, Gary, so you can tell a little bit more about the financial result. Go ahead, please. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:06:01Thank you, Mads. Welcome, everybody. As Mads alluded to, we've been really busy in the last few months for all kinds of reasons. Our first quarter twenty twenty five financials show yet another strong result, maintaining our trend over many quarters now, showing the quality and diversity of our business, not least as a result of our flexible fleet, resilient charter rates and utilization and our operational efficiency and cost controls. This all comes through in the numbers on slide six where we see TCE jump above $30,000 per day. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:06:31This leads on to a record high quarterly net operating revenue of $151,000,000 adjusted EBITDA of $72,800,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty five. Utilization was up 92.4%, up 3.1% compared to first quarter twenty twenty four. And the average time charter equivalent rate of $30,476 per day is, in this first quarter, is the highest rate achieved by Navigator in almost a decade. You'll see that voyage expenses have increased substantially, partially as a result of our increased fleet size, but primarily as these are pass through costs to our customers, there being a corresponding increase in operating revenues. Vessel operating expenses were somewhat up compared to the first quarter of twenty twenty four at $47,000,000 with the increase primarily driven by the timing of maintenance costs incurred during the three months ended 03/31/2025 compared to the same period in 2024. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:07:26Depreciation is slightly up compared to previous quarters due to our now increased fleet, and our general and admin costs of $8,100,000 in the first quarter, whilst up year on year, is down compared to the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four. Our unrealized movements on nondesignated derivative instruments resulted in a loss in this quarter of $2,300,000 this being related to movements in the fair value of our long term interest rate swaps, which affects our net income but which has no impact on our cash or liquidity. We also report a lower net interest expense in the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to the first quarter of twenty twenty four, partly due to lower SOFR rates. Other income shown in this quarter of 4,800,000.0 relates to a historic but successful legal settlement for damages caused to navigate at Ares in a collision with a container ship some ten years ago. As we were uncertain about this claim, we did not include any provision in our accounts, and so this settlement has gone straight into our income statement for the quarter. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:08:24This is a full settlement, and we don't expect anything further in this in respect of this particular incident. Our income tax line reflects current tax and mainly deferred taxes, which are significantly down compared to q one twenty twenty four as they're primarily derived from our investment and share of profits in our ethylene export terminal at Morgans Point. Randy will shortly explain more, but the ethylene terminal throughput volumes in q one twenty twenty five were low, as Mads mentioned, at 85,553 tonnes, resulting in us reporting a loss of $900,000 But as already mentioned, we're anticipating materially higher throughput back towards more normal trading levels in the second quarter and beyond this year. Then overall for the first quarter of twenty twenty five, net income attributable to stockholders was 27,000,000, which is our highest quarterly net income in the last three years and the second highest in the last nine years with basic earnings per share of 39¢ and adjusted net income, which excludes unrealized gains, losses on derivative instruments, foreign exchange, and other income of $25,500,000 or 37¢ per share. Our balance sheet shown on slide seven continues to be strong with a cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash balance of $139,000,000 at 03/31/2025. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:09:40This is despite paying out $26,300,000 for scheduled loan repayments, over $1,900,000 in share buybacks in respect to the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four, dollars '20 '1 million is further progress payments towards our MGC newbuild vessels, and a further $4,000,000 final payment for our ethylene terminal expansion project. Our liquidity will be boosted further by a few things not included in these first quarter numbers, such as the $40,000,000 bond tap issue, which settled in early April, the sale of the Navigator Venus, which completed this week, and the debt refinancing that we have signed and that we're targeting to draw down by the May 2025. On slide eight, I apologize for the slightly busy slide here, but we've been busy extending our maturities, improving our liquidity and reducing our financing costs. We were able to enter into a new senior secured loan facility in February 2025 to partially finance the purchase of the three German built 17,000 cubic meter ethaneethylene capable liquefied gas carriers that we've since taken delivery of and of which vessels are already positively contributing to our bottom line. Following our successful issuance of 100,000,000 of new senior unsecured bonds in October 2024, which at the time closed with the lowest spread for an unsecured dollar denominated shipping bond in The Nordic market since 02/2008, we took advantage of a favorable market. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:11:01And on 03/28/2025, we successfully issued a further 40,000,000 tap of our bonds, which also priced at 7.25%. We closed this just three business days before mister Trump's Liberation Day announcements. And although we saw some upward movement in interest rates at the time, we believe the tap pricing represented a credit spread that was around 15 basis points tighter than even our original hundred million issue, showing Navigator to be an attractive credit story as well as an attractive equity story. Then on 05/02/2025, we entered into a new senior secured term loan and revolving credit facility for up to $300,000,000 that will be used to repay the company's existing September 2020 and October 2023 secured outstanding loan facilities of 143,000,000 and 15,000,000, respectively, and thereafter be available for general corporate purposes. The facility has a tenor of six years maturing in 02/1931. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:11:55Amounts outstanding will bear interest on a quarterly basis at Soffer plus 170 basis points, and the facility is secured by or to be secured by eight of the company's vessels. We now have no debt maturities due in the next twelve months. I would just like to take this opportunity to say thank you to the club of lenders here for their faith in Navigator and for working with us on this given the macro environment we have seen just recently. We think our business model is robust, and it's good to see others thinking the same also and taking a longer term view as we do. On the right side of this slide is a summary of our main debt movements in the last four months, and we also show towards the bottom a pro form a loan to value calculation, which we think is important to demonstrate that we're operating conservatively while still trying to be efficient with our balance sheet and looking for opportunities to reduce our cost of finance. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:12:44On Slide nine, our leverage against earnings remains in a strong position with net debt to adjusted EBITDA at 2.6x for the last twelve months to 03/31/2025, and our net debt to capitalization was 38% at the end of this first quarter of twenty twenty five. As we've shown before, we're continuing to make substantial debt repayments with around $124,000,000 of average annual scheduled debt amortization payments expected across the coming three years, twenty twenty five to 2027. And, again, the last bullet, we've finished the quarter with a healthy cash balance despite the many calls on our funds where we're actively pursuing a number of important work streams. On slide 10, this is one of our most important slides as it shows our estimated all in cash breakeven for 2025, which, at $20,600 per day, is significantly below our average TCE revenue for this first quarter of twenty twenty five of $30,476 per day and is materially unchanged from the estimate we provided on our last earnings call back in March. The estimated cash breakeven figure is an all in figure, and it includes our forecast scheduled debt repayments and our drydocking costs. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:13:51On the right is our updated OpEx guidance for 2025 across our differing vessel segments ranging from 8,050 per day for our smaller vessels to 11,100 per day for our larger, more complex ethylene vessels. This guidance is unchanged from our last quarterly call in March. And following below is guidance for this year and for the first quarter of twenty twenty five across vessel OpEx, general and admin cost, depreciation, and cash interest expenses in dollar terms. The full year guidance for vessel OpEx for 2025 towards the bottom is now slightly higher in total than the previous guidance given in March as we now have a net two extra vessels across the remainder of the year. Slide 11 outlines our historic quarterly adjusted EBITDA, adding this first quarter's solid figure and demonstrating yet another very positive and consistent result as seen for many quarters now, and this is despite a slightly prolonged dip in the ethylene arbitrage, which Oyvind will cover shortly and which has impacted the results from our terminal this quarter. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:14:48On the right side, we show our historic adjusted EBITDA for 2024, our last twelve months adjusted EBITDA, and an annualized adjusted EBITDA based on the first quarter's result. In addition, the e EBITDA bars then to the right provide some sensitivity and illustrate an increase in adjusted EBITDA of approximately $19,000,000 for each $1,000 incremental increase in average time charter equivalent rates per day. Then in terms of our vessels' drydock schedule, projected costs, time taken, we've moved this slide to the appendix. As although this is very important information, the slide itself is quite heavy, and you don't need me to read it out to you. The only point I want to make is that we're continuing to invest in our energy and fuel saving initiatives, which we believe are great investments to make for both financial and environmental reasons, typically having very short payback periods. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:15:38So with that and having to been able to report some strong results and activities this quarter, I will hand you over to Oyvind who can guide us through our commercial environment amidst some of the macro uncertainties we have all been seeing. Thank you. Loewind? Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:15:53Thank you, Garry, and good morning, good afternoon, everyone. I'll spend the next few minutes walking you through the freight markets, our utilization trends and the recent impact of tariffs. I'll also touch on the latest ethylene arbitrage and wrap up with a quick view on vessel supply. So let's start with the market. If you turn to Page 13, you'll see the latest time charter assessments across the gas carrier segments. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:16:23The story here is stability. Rates for our core segments, ethylene and semi refrigerated vessels, which cover 88% of our fleet, are well firm. That's reassuring, especially given the recent backdrop of tariffs, trade uncertainties and most people pushing the pause button. Now on to utilization. On Page 14, it shows the makeup of our earnings days across petrochemicals, LPG and ammonia as well as fleet utilization. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:16:55We came in strong in the first quarter with utilization of 92.4%, but things took a sharp turn in April. On April 10, China imposed tariffs up to 125 of a range of U. S. Energy products, including ethane, ethylene and LPG. That made the trade between the two countries completely uneconomical. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:17:20We had three handysize ethane cargoes to China canceled, and zero new inquiries follow during this time. And we weren't alone. The industry widespread disruptions and cancellations. But right after Easter, China quietly dropped the ethane tariff back down to 1%. Immediately, activity came back. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:17:43We concluded two ethane fixtures overnight, and that's how quickly tariffs can swing the markets. With tariffs down and sentiment improving, utilization is now recovering, and we expect a more normalized trading pattern from May onwards. Our forward cover helps smooth things out. As of today, 41% of our ship days over the next twelve months are fixed at an average rate of $31,048 per day. Now let's take a closer look at the tariff situation. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:18:21On the next page, we added three charts showing the direct impact of the tariff spike. First, on LPG. This isn't a core trade for us, but the ripple effect has some impact on the overall freight markets and sentiment. The 125 tariff made U. S. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:18:40To China LPG uneconomical. Cargos diverted instantly to South Korea, Japan, Indonesia, India, while China turned to Middle East and nearby suppliers to backfill their demand. These ships increase inefficiencies, which can actually benefit shipping. In the middle chart, you'll see Handysize Ethane liftings dropped in April. Not surprising as most of these trades are on a spot basis. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:19:14All spot activity was put on pause. But with the tariff now back to 1%, I fully expect May volumes to bounce back. On the right, it shows ethylene. China has never been the main buyer of U. S. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:19:29Ethylene. They have on average imported about 10% of U. S. Ethylene exports during the first five the last five years. Last year in 2024, just 85,000 tonnes went to China and have declined since 2023. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:19:45And yet our ethylene freight rates Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:19:49are up. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:19:50It illustrates that China is not an essential driver for U. S. Ethylene exports or our ethylene freight markets. In any event, and similar to ethylene and LPG, the 125% tariff shut the trade during April for ethylene. Now with an 11% tariff and a healthy arbitrage, we could see China come back into play for this commodity. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:20:16Speaking of arbitrage, the ethylene arbitrage is wide open. On Page 16, if you take a look at the gray line on the left hand chart, U. S. Ethylene prices have come down to around $400 per tonne, significantly down. And that's great news, rate for trade, power terminal and for freight. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:20:40The mid graph shows where freight sits in the ethylene value chain. And if you look in the light blue box, dollars 300 per ton to Europe or Asia on paper, it works for us. Terminal volumes in April were up. And as Mats mentioned, May is shaping up even better. Our terminal is set to use its flex capacity to meet that demand. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:21:06On supply, on Page 17, it shows the fleet picture. Supply in our Handsize segment remains very manageable, single digit growth from the yards. A good chunk of the fleet is over twenty years of age. The larger segments are seeing more newbuilds, but we are in a comfortable position in the segments we operate. So to wrap it up, April was turbulent, but the fundamentals are back for ethane and ethylene. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:21:34Utilization is rising, rates are holding, and volumes are flowing through the terminal. So we're entering May with solid momentum and a bit of spring optimism. With that, I'll hand over to Randy for the latest corporate developments. Randy? Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:21:50Thank you, Oyvind. So following up on several announcements we made in recent months, we want to provide some additional details and updates on our recent developments. Starting on slide 19, we're pleased to announce our return of capital for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. But before we get to that, I wanna highlight that during the first quarter, we repurchased more than 136,000 common shares in the open market totaling $1,900,000 for an average price of $14.17 per share. Now looking ahead, in line with our return of capital policy and the illustrative table below, we're returning 25% of net income or a total of $6,800,000 to shareholders during the second quarter. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:22:31The board has declared a cash dividend of 5¢ per share payable on June 17 to all shareholders of record as of May 29, equating to a quarterly cash dividend payment of $3,500,000. Additionally, with MBGS shares trading well below estimated NAV of around $27 a share, we will use the variable portion of the return of capital policy for share buybacks. As such, we expect to repurchase $3,300,000 of common shares between now and quarter end, such that the dividend and share purchase repurchases together equal 25% of net income. Again, $6,800,000 in total this quarter. As seen over the past few years, returning capital to shareholders will remain a primary focus for us going forward. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:23:15And that's not all for capital returns. Just wait, there's more. Now looking at slide 20, included in our earnings release yesterday afternoon, we announced the board's authorization for a new share repurchase program of up to $50,000,000 of NVGS common stock, most likely to be implemented via open market purchases. To be clear, this new share repurchase authorization is in addition to our quarterly share repurchases connected to our return of capital policy. So the $3,300,000 mentioned earlier will not eat into this new $50,000,000 authorization. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:23:51Now there are several compelling reasons for us to repurchase shares, buying back a discount boost our NAV per share, it reduces the share count and increases earnings per share, supports the share price, and as we explained through our five pillars of capital deployment, it diversifies our uses of cash. In terms of funding the buybacks, we've recently raised almost $200,000,000 of excess liquidity through the unsecured bond tap, the most recent credit facility refinancing, and the sale of the Navigator Venus, which I'll touch on in a second. As Gary displayed on slide eight, a large portion of the excess cash will be used to repay more expensive debt. Some will be used for growth projects, some will be kept on the balance sheet, and some will be used for this share repurchase program. As you can see on the bottom left of the slide, the extremely intelligent equity analyst who cover us agree that our share price is very attractive with lots of upside from here. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:24:43So all that being said, there are many factors that come into play regarding the timing and scale of incremental repurchases, but we do plan on implementing this program in the near future, especially at the current very cheap share price. Now turning to our ethylene export terminal on Slide 21. As we mentioned on a previous earnings call, US golf ethylene cracker turnarounds persisted throughout the first quarter, resulting in reduced US ethylene supply and high US ethylene prices. As a result, throughput volumes during the first quarter decreased to 85,000 tons. However, as The US crackers ramped production in April, the domestic ethylene price fell from 30¢ a pound or $660 per metric ton to 20¢ a pound or $440 per metric ton. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:25:29As you can see on the bottom right chart, substantially widening the arbitrage to both Europe and Asia. So this led to throughput in April increasing to a six month high of 66,000 tons. And with the domestic ethylene price now back down to $400 a ton, throughput in May will exceed the volumes in April, and the flex train will be utilized soon. So looking at the forward curve for ethylene prices, we expect the terminal throughput to remain fairly strong and our net income from the joint venture to return to historical profitability levels this quarter. As a reminder, we completed the final Flex Train CapEx payment of $4,000,000 in January for a total contribution of $128,000,000 all paid from cash on hand. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:26:12As for the contracting of expansion volumes, interest in the offtake contracts has increased in recent weeks and we continue to expect that additional offtake capacity will be contracted in the coming months as new customers continue to request terms. Now finishing on Slide 22, our fleet renewal program continues to be implemented as we sell our oldest vessels and replace them with modern secondhand tonnage. So starting with the divestiture. Two days ago, we completed the sale of our oldest vessel, Navigator Venus, a 2,000 built, 22,000 cubic meter gas carrier to a third party for $17,500,000 resulting in a $12,800,000 profit to be included in our second quarter net income. That leaves us with only two of our original vessels built in February, and we continue to engage buyers who are showing interest in acquiring those older vessels. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:27:03On the replacement side, during the first quarter, took delivery of all three secondhand handysize ethylene carriers that we agreed to acquire in December of twenty twenty four, complementing the increased export capacity from our ethylene export terminal joint venture. Now the vast majority of that $83,900,000 total purchase price was financed through new debt totaling $74,600,000 So the acquisition only required less than $10,000,000 of our cash. As a result of our recent sale and purchase activity, our current fleet is now 11.9 years of age with an average size of 20,816 cubic meters. So not too young, not too old, not too big, not too small, basically, the Goldilocks fleet. With that, I'll now turn it back over to Mads for closing remarks. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:27:51No worry. Thanks a lot, Randy. Yes. In in in summary, I guess that we can conclude here that Navigator got gas got off to a robust start to 2025. I probably should add here that the past month has added quite a few sleepless nights and probably also some gray hairs. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:28:11But I think in Q1, we delivered another solid quarter with strong operating cash flows. And we have in front of us a Q2 that maybe started a little bit shaky, but has now returned to almost normal, dare I say so. We've built resilience by refinancing well ahead of maturity at lower margins and better terms. And this is why we, despite less overall visibility than usual, can continue to pay quarterly cash dividends and add another substantial share buyback program at $50,000,000 This buyback program will significantly enhance the shareholder returns, our EPS and our return on equity. We remain confident about the demand fundamentals of the business. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:28:53Continued growth in U. S. Natural gas liquids production and the significant build out in U. S. Export infrastructure over the next four years will support exports and thereby transport demand. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:29:05Near term, we expect the terminal throughput for Q2 to be materially higher than Q1 and with a widening ethylene arbitrage. The vessel supply picture remains attractive with a small handysize order book and an aging global fleet. So thanks a lot for listening. And now I'll hand it back to you, Randy, and we'll go to q and a. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:29:25Thank you, Mads. Operator, we'll now open the lines for some q and a. So to raise your hand, press star nine, and then you'll have to unmute yourself by pressing star six. Or if using Zoom, just use the raise hand function. So first question, your line should be open. Question, your line should be Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:29:40open. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:29:42Randy, thank you. Thanks for the update, guys. A couple questions from my end. I think, Oyvind, you spent a good amount of time talking about the market in April and and how things have improved thus far in May as the tariffs have gotten removed or lowered. Just wanted to ask when the China U. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:29:59S, say, trade got to a bit of a standstill, as you highlighted, what ended up happening elsewhere? Did you see any cargo opportunities to send to other areas in the Far East, or was it just a complete, you know, lull in the market? Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:30:14No. I mean, LPG is quite it's a deep market. It's a big market, and it's quite fungible, meaning that you can find other outlets. So positively for Navigator in that situation, so no LPG from US to China. So what does China do? Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:30:34They buy from other sources. So we actually did some trades that we haven't done before. LPG on the hand is sized from Middle East to China. So, usually, those ships are too small for such a long deep sea voyage on LPG. It's more for the VLGCs, but it happened. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:30:55And that is a sort of blip a positive blip if you if if you see it that way. But LPG generally caused inefficiencies, so ships were waiting, fully laden, deviating, different trades going to new places. And, generally, that was a positive for the market, generally, for LPG. Ethane stopped until China announced that, no, it's exempt from import duties, I. E, only 1% going from 01/1926 to 1%. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:31:29So that's clearly helpful. So those two things had an impact. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:31:36Okay. And then just in terms of how we saw things in the first quarter, it seems that your realized rate stayed fairly strong even as you were highlighting the arbitrage to move cargo kind of favored going the short haul route to Europe instead of to the Far East. Is that a bit of would you say that's a delayed reaction maybe that we will see some of that into the second quarter where we'll see the softer rate? Because, obviously, 30,000 is still quite strong in spite of that shorter haul. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:32:06I think when there was no smaller volumes of ethylene going through the terminal in the first quarter and rates were kept high, and now you're facing a situation whereby there's more volumes. So, you know, that's a positive if you're thinking about the second quarter. That's more supply that more volumes that needs to move on the same amount of ships. First quarter, most of it went Transatlantic to Europe, so on ethane and ethylene, shorter voyages. But now we're seeing also voyages going to Indonesia and other places for longer. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:32:46So yes, we're optimistic. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:32:50Okay. And one final one, and I'll turn it over. Maybe to you, Gary, you've got the new credit facility in place now that refinances this year's maturity. You've paid for the terminal expansion with your cash resources. And on the last call, you mentioned that you're aiming to put some debt in place on the terminal now that it's completed. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:33:10You've got the small balance left on that original loan for the pre expansion part of the terminal. What are you thinking right now in terms of, you know, putting some debt on on the on the project now? Any sense of timing or or amount? Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:33:24Yeah. I think what we can say, it's it's it's not imminent. I don't think it's top of our list. I think it's something that we've been looking at for a while, and I think there are various different things we can look at. Obviously, for Navigator, it's not ships, so it's it's something a little bit different for us to finance. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:33:44And I think, you know, with the contractual situation from the flex train there, we've been waiting for for that situation, which is coming along nicely. But because we've not been in a rush, I think we've been prioritizing our more expensive bank debt and our other facilities and getting that out of the way first. But it's certainly still on our list. But in terms of priority and timing, yeah, it's probably not right up at the top of the list. I think we we've got other things that that we can go for first. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:34:17Okay. Thanks, Gary. Thanks, guys. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:34:20Thank you. Thank you, Omar. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:34:25All right. Next question. Your line should be open. Analyst00:34:28Hi. Just starting off on the buyback program. How do you think about deploying the new buyback program? And is there a mechanism for how you determine the amount of buybacks in any given quarter? Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:34:45Yeah. Thanks for that, Charles. So in terms of scale, you know, looking back over the last couple of years, we bought back around 55 or so million dollars each year. In 2022, we announced the program, the first fifty million dollar share buyback program and implemented it pretty soon thereafter. So certainly planning on putting this one to good use as well. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:35:06In terms of the scale, there are certain parameters and volume limitations that you can buy back on any given day and kind of an open market share repurchase program. So, obviously, we'll have to stay in line with those. But that said, you know, again, we're gonna do the 3,300,000.0 for sure in terms of share buybacks based on the return of capital policy. And the incremental one, we plan on utilizing here in the near term as well. So a lot of variables will determine the exact timing and scale of that, but it is something we plan on implementing, in the near term. Analyst00:35:38Got it. Understood. And just second question. Has volatility that you've seen in the market recently changed how you're approaching the chartering strategy? Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:35:51Charles, we mentioned we put in a a note, which we haven't done before in terms of our percentage cover over the next twelve month and the average rate of that. That certainly helped in April. I think that 41% is probably a little bit low, so we're looking to nudge it up a few percentage points. So it's something we we look at, and, of course, you are influenced by what's happening around you. But on a long term, we generally are just shy of 50% on cover because we really petrochemicals generally spot driven. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:36:28So and we believe in that market is coming back now. And then, of course, it's beneficial to have some spot open ships. Analyst00:36:37Understood. Thanks for the time. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:36:43Thank you, Charles. I believe that is it in terms of Q and A. So I'll turn it back to Mads for one final goodbye. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:36:53Good. Thanks for staying with us and listening in to our Q1 results. I think you can see that this is better than expected Q1. It was a quite robust result that we demonstrated here with good cash returns. And of course, that cash return then is translated into returning cash to shareholders. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:37:12So we are pleased to see that even in a time when things have been very dynamic around us that we can finance our vessels with strong support from our banks and we can also generate excess liquidity, so we can launch another share buyback. We've seen that as being a very good instrument in the past to to returning shares or capital to to shareholders, and and this is one that we'll keep prioritizing. So stay tuned, and thank you so much for listening in. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:37:42Wait one more second. It looks like we have a late addition to the Q and A. Clement, there he is. Your line is open. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:37:50Hi, Tim. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to delve a bit further into the TCE increase quarter over quarter. Was the bulk of the uplift attributable to solid performance or on the spot market, or was it mostly due to vessels on time charters being rolled at higher rates? Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:38:13You're muted, Ivan. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:38:15No. Oh, boy. Mostly on the time charter market, Clement. The spot market was getting a little bit choppy leading into to April. So generally attributed to to time charter, which proves the point that also customers are viewing 2025 as being quite tighter or tighter on ship. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:38:40So that's just a reflection of that. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:38:44Right. That's helpful. And this one is more on the modeling side, but should we expect the core pay payments on the ethylene export terminal to provide a tailwind to the JV's contribution in the second quarter? Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:39:00Yep. And I guess Yeah. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:39:01Oh, go Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:39:01ahead, Martin. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:39:02No. No. That will certainly be the case. The deficiency payments tend to vary from contract to contract. So, so it it depends on on which the customer is, but but, typically, they will fall into the the following quarter portion of it. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:39:19So, yeah, you'll see a benefit or positive impact from it. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:39:24That's helpful. Thank you. That's everything from me. Thank you for taking my questions. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:39:28Absolutely. Thanks for joining. Alright. With that, for real this time, thanks again, and we look forward to seeing you all in August.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesRandy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business DevelopmentMads ZachoChief Executive OfficerGary ChapmanChief Financial OfficerOeyvind LindemanChief Commercial OfficerAnalystsOmar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLCAnalystCliment MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's EdgePowered by Key Takeaways Navigator Gas delivered record Q1 revenue up 13% year-over-year, achieving $151 million in net operating revenue and $72.8 million in adjusted EBITDA, driven by over 92% utilization and average TCE rates of $30,476/day. The company executed a $300 million refinancing and $40 million bond tap at historically low margins amid market volatility, bolstering liquidity to fund three secondhand vessel acquisitions, terminal expansion and debt reduction. Capital return remained a priority with a fixed €0.05 dividend and share buy-backs totaling 25% of net income in Q1, alongside board approval of an additional $50 million share repurchase authorization. Throughput at the Morgans Point ethylene export terminal dropped to 85,553 tonnes in Q1 due to U.S. cracker turnarounds and narrow arbitrage, but April volumes rebounded to 66,000 tonnes and widening ethylene spreads are expected to restore joint-venture profitability in Q2. Fleet renewal advanced with delivery of three 17,000 m³ ethylene vessels financed mainly by new debt and the sale of the aging Navigator Venus for $17.5 million (book gain ~$13 million), yielding an average fleet age of 11.9 years amid a tight Handysize orderbook. AI Generated. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:00:00Conference Call for the First Quarter twenty twenty five Financial Results. On today's call, have Mads Peter Zakol, Chief Executive Officer Gary Chapman, Chief Financial Officer Oyvind Lindeman, Chief Commercial Officer and myself, Randy Gibbons, Executive Vice President of Investor Relations and Business Development in North America. I must advise you that this conference call is being recorded today. As we conduct today's presentation, we'll be making various forward looking statements. These statements include, but are not limited to the future expectations, plans and prospects from both a financial and operational perspective and are based on management assumptions, forecasts and expectations as of today's date, 05/15/2025. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:00:41Actual results may differ significantly from our forward looking information and financial forecast. Additional information about these factors and assumptions are included in our annual and quarterly reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. With that, I now pass the floor to Mads Peter Zacco, the company's Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, Mads. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:01:00Thank you so much. Good morning, good afternoon, and thank you for joining this Navigator Gas earnings call for Q1 twenty twenty five. As a start, I'll just review the key data from our Q1 twenty twenty five performance, and then I'll go over the outlook for the rest of the year. After that, Gary, Oyvind and Randy will discuss our results in more detail. In the first quarter, we again generated more revenues, up 13% compared to same period last year. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:01:29This was a new record quarterly revenue, and it was driven by both high utilization and higher rates. Income from our joint venture terminal was down significantly. Adjusted EBITDA for Q1 was $73,000,000 in line with both same period of 2024 and also Q4. The balance sheet is strong with a robust cash position even after investments into three secondhand vessels and further investments installments paid into the MGC newbuildings. With the recent $40,000,000 bond tap and the $300,000,000 refinancing proceeds, the cash balance will be substantially stronger this second quarter. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:02:10I'd like to add that the $300,000,000 refinancing was signed as planned in the middle of the most volatile trade environment that we've seen in decades. And this is at the lowest margins ever for Navigator and also, I think, showing the rock solid support and trust that we have from our banking partners. The return of capital continued in Q1 with both the €05 fixed dividend and a share buyback up to, in combination, 25% of net income. We're also pleased to announce another share repurchase authorization in the amount of an additional $50,000,000 enhancing shareholder returns, earnings per share and return on equity. Commercially, we pushed TCE rate back up higher and secured average Q1 TCE rates of $30,475 This is 8% higher than both previous quarter and same period last year. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:03:07We achieved utilization above 92%, in line with our guidance and higher than both Q4 of twenty twenty four and higher than the same period last year. We're again quite pleased with our ability to maintain robust TCE rates and utilization in a market that was hit by softer ethylene transport demand. To illustrate the softness, throughput at our joint venture ethylene export terminal was limited to 86,000 tonnes for the quarter, and this is, of course, much lower than the already soft fourth quarter and much below capacity. This was caused by continued effects from The U. S. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:03:44Cracker turnarounds, leading to reduced domestic supply, leading to higher domestic prices and as consequence, a narrow arbitrage. We expanded our fleet by acquiring three secondhand ethylene capable vessels at attractive prices. All three have now been taken over and deployed as planned. We also sold Navigator Venus, one of the original Navigator vessels, which was about to reach 25 years of age. The sale secured $17,500,000 of cash and a book gain of almost $13,000,000 Gradual fleet renewal remains a priority, and we are likely to sell more of our older tonnage. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:04:27The four last months have been challenging strategically, to say the least. It now seems that uncertainty is receding somewhat. We believe that the port fees, as announced by The U. S. Trade Representative, will not affect Navigator Gas negatively due to our vessel size and due to us being a service provider to U. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:04:48S. Energy exports. It now also seems that tariffs on Chinese import from The U. S. May be limited to 10%. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:04:56I guess in this context, it should be mentioned that over the past five years, China has received less than 10% of ethylene shipped from Morgans Point. But anyway, much can still change. With our diversified customer base, our trading capability and strong balance sheet, I believe we remain resilient even if geopolitics take an unexpected turn. April utilization was weaker than usual due to cargo cancellations and some customers pausing new vessel fixtures. The effect has now already been reversed, and the month of May showed gradual normalization in vessel utilization and likely a record high throughput at Mogens Point. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:05:39The vessel supply picture remains attractive with a Handysize order book of 9%. And in addition to this, now 22% of the global Handysize vessels on the water, they're more than 20 years of age. So the supply picture continues to look good. Now I'll pass it over to you, Gary, so you can tell a little bit more about the financial result. Go ahead, please. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:06:01Thank you, Mads. Welcome, everybody. As Mads alluded to, we've been really busy in the last few months for all kinds of reasons. Our first quarter twenty twenty five financials show yet another strong result, maintaining our trend over many quarters now, showing the quality and diversity of our business, not least as a result of our flexible fleet, resilient charter rates and utilization and our operational efficiency and cost controls. This all comes through in the numbers on slide six where we see TCE jump above $30,000 per day. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:06:31This leads on to a record high quarterly net operating revenue of $151,000,000 adjusted EBITDA of $72,800,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty five. Utilization was up 92.4%, up 3.1% compared to first quarter twenty twenty four. And the average time charter equivalent rate of $30,476 per day is, in this first quarter, is the highest rate achieved by Navigator in almost a decade. You'll see that voyage expenses have increased substantially, partially as a result of our increased fleet size, but primarily as these are pass through costs to our customers, there being a corresponding increase in operating revenues. Vessel operating expenses were somewhat up compared to the first quarter of twenty twenty four at $47,000,000 with the increase primarily driven by the timing of maintenance costs incurred during the three months ended 03/31/2025 compared to the same period in 2024. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:07:26Depreciation is slightly up compared to previous quarters due to our now increased fleet, and our general and admin costs of $8,100,000 in the first quarter, whilst up year on year, is down compared to the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four. Our unrealized movements on nondesignated derivative instruments resulted in a loss in this quarter of $2,300,000 this being related to movements in the fair value of our long term interest rate swaps, which affects our net income but which has no impact on our cash or liquidity. We also report a lower net interest expense in the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to the first quarter of twenty twenty four, partly due to lower SOFR rates. Other income shown in this quarter of 4,800,000.0 relates to a historic but successful legal settlement for damages caused to navigate at Ares in a collision with a container ship some ten years ago. As we were uncertain about this claim, we did not include any provision in our accounts, and so this settlement has gone straight into our income statement for the quarter. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:08:24This is a full settlement, and we don't expect anything further in this in respect of this particular incident. Our income tax line reflects current tax and mainly deferred taxes, which are significantly down compared to q one twenty twenty four as they're primarily derived from our investment and share of profits in our ethylene export terminal at Morgans Point. Randy will shortly explain more, but the ethylene terminal throughput volumes in q one twenty twenty five were low, as Mads mentioned, at 85,553 tonnes, resulting in us reporting a loss of $900,000 But as already mentioned, we're anticipating materially higher throughput back towards more normal trading levels in the second quarter and beyond this year. Then overall for the first quarter of twenty twenty five, net income attributable to stockholders was 27,000,000, which is our highest quarterly net income in the last three years and the second highest in the last nine years with basic earnings per share of 39¢ and adjusted net income, which excludes unrealized gains, losses on derivative instruments, foreign exchange, and other income of $25,500,000 or 37¢ per share. Our balance sheet shown on slide seven continues to be strong with a cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash balance of $139,000,000 at 03/31/2025. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:09:40This is despite paying out $26,300,000 for scheduled loan repayments, over $1,900,000 in share buybacks in respect to the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four, dollars '20 '1 million is further progress payments towards our MGC newbuild vessels, and a further $4,000,000 final payment for our ethylene terminal expansion project. Our liquidity will be boosted further by a few things not included in these first quarter numbers, such as the $40,000,000 bond tap issue, which settled in early April, the sale of the Navigator Venus, which completed this week, and the debt refinancing that we have signed and that we're targeting to draw down by the May 2025. On slide eight, I apologize for the slightly busy slide here, but we've been busy extending our maturities, improving our liquidity and reducing our financing costs. We were able to enter into a new senior secured loan facility in February 2025 to partially finance the purchase of the three German built 17,000 cubic meter ethaneethylene capable liquefied gas carriers that we've since taken delivery of and of which vessels are already positively contributing to our bottom line. Following our successful issuance of 100,000,000 of new senior unsecured bonds in October 2024, which at the time closed with the lowest spread for an unsecured dollar denominated shipping bond in The Nordic market since 02/2008, we took advantage of a favorable market. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:11:01And on 03/28/2025, we successfully issued a further 40,000,000 tap of our bonds, which also priced at 7.25%. We closed this just three business days before mister Trump's Liberation Day announcements. And although we saw some upward movement in interest rates at the time, we believe the tap pricing represented a credit spread that was around 15 basis points tighter than even our original hundred million issue, showing Navigator to be an attractive credit story as well as an attractive equity story. Then on 05/02/2025, we entered into a new senior secured term loan and revolving credit facility for up to $300,000,000 that will be used to repay the company's existing September 2020 and October 2023 secured outstanding loan facilities of 143,000,000 and 15,000,000, respectively, and thereafter be available for general corporate purposes. The facility has a tenor of six years maturing in 02/1931. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:11:55Amounts outstanding will bear interest on a quarterly basis at Soffer plus 170 basis points, and the facility is secured by or to be secured by eight of the company's vessels. We now have no debt maturities due in the next twelve months. I would just like to take this opportunity to say thank you to the club of lenders here for their faith in Navigator and for working with us on this given the macro environment we have seen just recently. We think our business model is robust, and it's good to see others thinking the same also and taking a longer term view as we do. On the right side of this slide is a summary of our main debt movements in the last four months, and we also show towards the bottom a pro form a loan to value calculation, which we think is important to demonstrate that we're operating conservatively while still trying to be efficient with our balance sheet and looking for opportunities to reduce our cost of finance. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:12:44On Slide nine, our leverage against earnings remains in a strong position with net debt to adjusted EBITDA at 2.6x for the last twelve months to 03/31/2025, and our net debt to capitalization was 38% at the end of this first quarter of twenty twenty five. As we've shown before, we're continuing to make substantial debt repayments with around $124,000,000 of average annual scheduled debt amortization payments expected across the coming three years, twenty twenty five to 2027. And, again, the last bullet, we've finished the quarter with a healthy cash balance despite the many calls on our funds where we're actively pursuing a number of important work streams. On slide 10, this is one of our most important slides as it shows our estimated all in cash breakeven for 2025, which, at $20,600 per day, is significantly below our average TCE revenue for this first quarter of twenty twenty five of $30,476 per day and is materially unchanged from the estimate we provided on our last earnings call back in March. The estimated cash breakeven figure is an all in figure, and it includes our forecast scheduled debt repayments and our drydocking costs. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:13:51On the right is our updated OpEx guidance for 2025 across our differing vessel segments ranging from 8,050 per day for our smaller vessels to 11,100 per day for our larger, more complex ethylene vessels. This guidance is unchanged from our last quarterly call in March. And following below is guidance for this year and for the first quarter of twenty twenty five across vessel OpEx, general and admin cost, depreciation, and cash interest expenses in dollar terms. The full year guidance for vessel OpEx for 2025 towards the bottom is now slightly higher in total than the previous guidance given in March as we now have a net two extra vessels across the remainder of the year. Slide 11 outlines our historic quarterly adjusted EBITDA, adding this first quarter's solid figure and demonstrating yet another very positive and consistent result as seen for many quarters now, and this is despite a slightly prolonged dip in the ethylene arbitrage, which Oyvind will cover shortly and which has impacted the results from our terminal this quarter. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:14:48On the right side, we show our historic adjusted EBITDA for 2024, our last twelve months adjusted EBITDA, and an annualized adjusted EBITDA based on the first quarter's result. In addition, the e EBITDA bars then to the right provide some sensitivity and illustrate an increase in adjusted EBITDA of approximately $19,000,000 for each $1,000 incremental increase in average time charter equivalent rates per day. Then in terms of our vessels' drydock schedule, projected costs, time taken, we've moved this slide to the appendix. As although this is very important information, the slide itself is quite heavy, and you don't need me to read it out to you. The only point I want to make is that we're continuing to invest in our energy and fuel saving initiatives, which we believe are great investments to make for both financial and environmental reasons, typically having very short payback periods. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:15:38So with that and having to been able to report some strong results and activities this quarter, I will hand you over to Oyvind who can guide us through our commercial environment amidst some of the macro uncertainties we have all been seeing. Thank you. Loewind? Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:15:53Thank you, Garry, and good morning, good afternoon, everyone. I'll spend the next few minutes walking you through the freight markets, our utilization trends and the recent impact of tariffs. I'll also touch on the latest ethylene arbitrage and wrap up with a quick view on vessel supply. So let's start with the market. If you turn to Page 13, you'll see the latest time charter assessments across the gas carrier segments. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:16:23The story here is stability. Rates for our core segments, ethylene and semi refrigerated vessels, which cover 88% of our fleet, are well firm. That's reassuring, especially given the recent backdrop of tariffs, trade uncertainties and most people pushing the pause button. Now on to utilization. On Page 14, it shows the makeup of our earnings days across petrochemicals, LPG and ammonia as well as fleet utilization. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:16:55We came in strong in the first quarter with utilization of 92.4%, but things took a sharp turn in April. On April 10, China imposed tariffs up to 125 of a range of U. S. Energy products, including ethane, ethylene and LPG. That made the trade between the two countries completely uneconomical. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:17:20We had three handysize ethane cargoes to China canceled, and zero new inquiries follow during this time. And we weren't alone. The industry widespread disruptions and cancellations. But right after Easter, China quietly dropped the ethane tariff back down to 1%. Immediately, activity came back. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:17:43We concluded two ethane fixtures overnight, and that's how quickly tariffs can swing the markets. With tariffs down and sentiment improving, utilization is now recovering, and we expect a more normalized trading pattern from May onwards. Our forward cover helps smooth things out. As of today, 41% of our ship days over the next twelve months are fixed at an average rate of $31,048 per day. Now let's take a closer look at the tariff situation. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:18:21On the next page, we added three charts showing the direct impact of the tariff spike. First, on LPG. This isn't a core trade for us, but the ripple effect has some impact on the overall freight markets and sentiment. The 125 tariff made U. S. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:18:40To China LPG uneconomical. Cargos diverted instantly to South Korea, Japan, Indonesia, India, while China turned to Middle East and nearby suppliers to backfill their demand. These ships increase inefficiencies, which can actually benefit shipping. In the middle chart, you'll see Handysize Ethane liftings dropped in April. Not surprising as most of these trades are on a spot basis. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:19:14All spot activity was put on pause. But with the tariff now back to 1%, I fully expect May volumes to bounce back. On the right, it shows ethylene. China has never been the main buyer of U. S. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:19:29Ethylene. They have on average imported about 10% of U. S. Ethylene exports during the first five the last five years. Last year in 2024, just 85,000 tonnes went to China and have declined since 2023. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:19:45And yet our ethylene freight rates Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:19:49are up. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:19:50It illustrates that China is not an essential driver for U. S. Ethylene exports or our ethylene freight markets. In any event, and similar to ethylene and LPG, the 125% tariff shut the trade during April for ethylene. Now with an 11% tariff and a healthy arbitrage, we could see China come back into play for this commodity. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:20:16Speaking of arbitrage, the ethylene arbitrage is wide open. On Page 16, if you take a look at the gray line on the left hand chart, U. S. Ethylene prices have come down to around $400 per tonne, significantly down. And that's great news, rate for trade, power terminal and for freight. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:20:40The mid graph shows where freight sits in the ethylene value chain. And if you look in the light blue box, dollars 300 per ton to Europe or Asia on paper, it works for us. Terminal volumes in April were up. And as Mats mentioned, May is shaping up even better. Our terminal is set to use its flex capacity to meet that demand. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:21:06On supply, on Page 17, it shows the fleet picture. Supply in our Handsize segment remains very manageable, single digit growth from the yards. A good chunk of the fleet is over twenty years of age. The larger segments are seeing more newbuilds, but we are in a comfortable position in the segments we operate. So to wrap it up, April was turbulent, but the fundamentals are back for ethane and ethylene. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:21:34Utilization is rising, rates are holding, and volumes are flowing through the terminal. So we're entering May with solid momentum and a bit of spring optimism. With that, I'll hand over to Randy for the latest corporate developments. Randy? Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:21:50Thank you, Oyvind. So following up on several announcements we made in recent months, we want to provide some additional details and updates on our recent developments. Starting on slide 19, we're pleased to announce our return of capital for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. But before we get to that, I wanna highlight that during the first quarter, we repurchased more than 136,000 common shares in the open market totaling $1,900,000 for an average price of $14.17 per share. Now looking ahead, in line with our return of capital policy and the illustrative table below, we're returning 25% of net income or a total of $6,800,000 to shareholders during the second quarter. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:22:31The board has declared a cash dividend of 5¢ per share payable on June 17 to all shareholders of record as of May 29, equating to a quarterly cash dividend payment of $3,500,000. Additionally, with MBGS shares trading well below estimated NAV of around $27 a share, we will use the variable portion of the return of capital policy for share buybacks. As such, we expect to repurchase $3,300,000 of common shares between now and quarter end, such that the dividend and share purchase repurchases together equal 25% of net income. Again, $6,800,000 in total this quarter. As seen over the past few years, returning capital to shareholders will remain a primary focus for us going forward. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:23:15And that's not all for capital returns. Just wait, there's more. Now looking at slide 20, included in our earnings release yesterday afternoon, we announced the board's authorization for a new share repurchase program of up to $50,000,000 of NVGS common stock, most likely to be implemented via open market purchases. To be clear, this new share repurchase authorization is in addition to our quarterly share repurchases connected to our return of capital policy. So the $3,300,000 mentioned earlier will not eat into this new $50,000,000 authorization. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:23:51Now there are several compelling reasons for us to repurchase shares, buying back a discount boost our NAV per share, it reduces the share count and increases earnings per share, supports the share price, and as we explained through our five pillars of capital deployment, it diversifies our uses of cash. In terms of funding the buybacks, we've recently raised almost $200,000,000 of excess liquidity through the unsecured bond tap, the most recent credit facility refinancing, and the sale of the Navigator Venus, which I'll touch on in a second. As Gary displayed on slide eight, a large portion of the excess cash will be used to repay more expensive debt. Some will be used for growth projects, some will be kept on the balance sheet, and some will be used for this share repurchase program. As you can see on the bottom left of the slide, the extremely intelligent equity analyst who cover us agree that our share price is very attractive with lots of upside from here. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:24:43So all that being said, there are many factors that come into play regarding the timing and scale of incremental repurchases, but we do plan on implementing this program in the near future, especially at the current very cheap share price. Now turning to our ethylene export terminal on Slide 21. As we mentioned on a previous earnings call, US golf ethylene cracker turnarounds persisted throughout the first quarter, resulting in reduced US ethylene supply and high US ethylene prices. As a result, throughput volumes during the first quarter decreased to 85,000 tons. However, as The US crackers ramped production in April, the domestic ethylene price fell from 30¢ a pound or $660 per metric ton to 20¢ a pound or $440 per metric ton. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:25:29As you can see on the bottom right chart, substantially widening the arbitrage to both Europe and Asia. So this led to throughput in April increasing to a six month high of 66,000 tons. And with the domestic ethylene price now back down to $400 a ton, throughput in May will exceed the volumes in April, and the flex train will be utilized soon. So looking at the forward curve for ethylene prices, we expect the terminal throughput to remain fairly strong and our net income from the joint venture to return to historical profitability levels this quarter. As a reminder, we completed the final Flex Train CapEx payment of $4,000,000 in January for a total contribution of $128,000,000 all paid from cash on hand. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:26:12As for the contracting of expansion volumes, interest in the offtake contracts has increased in recent weeks and we continue to expect that additional offtake capacity will be contracted in the coming months as new customers continue to request terms. Now finishing on Slide 22, our fleet renewal program continues to be implemented as we sell our oldest vessels and replace them with modern secondhand tonnage. So starting with the divestiture. Two days ago, we completed the sale of our oldest vessel, Navigator Venus, a 2,000 built, 22,000 cubic meter gas carrier to a third party for $17,500,000 resulting in a $12,800,000 profit to be included in our second quarter net income. That leaves us with only two of our original vessels built in February, and we continue to engage buyers who are showing interest in acquiring those older vessels. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:27:03On the replacement side, during the first quarter, took delivery of all three secondhand handysize ethylene carriers that we agreed to acquire in December of twenty twenty four, complementing the increased export capacity from our ethylene export terminal joint venture. Now the vast majority of that $83,900,000 total purchase price was financed through new debt totaling $74,600,000 So the acquisition only required less than $10,000,000 of our cash. As a result of our recent sale and purchase activity, our current fleet is now 11.9 years of age with an average size of 20,816 cubic meters. So not too young, not too old, not too big, not too small, basically, the Goldilocks fleet. With that, I'll now turn it back over to Mads for closing remarks. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:27:51No worry. Thanks a lot, Randy. Yes. In in in summary, I guess that we can conclude here that Navigator got gas got off to a robust start to 2025. I probably should add here that the past month has added quite a few sleepless nights and probably also some gray hairs. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:28:11But I think in Q1, we delivered another solid quarter with strong operating cash flows. And we have in front of us a Q2 that maybe started a little bit shaky, but has now returned to almost normal, dare I say so. We've built resilience by refinancing well ahead of maturity at lower margins and better terms. And this is why we, despite less overall visibility than usual, can continue to pay quarterly cash dividends and add another substantial share buyback program at $50,000,000 This buyback program will significantly enhance the shareholder returns, our EPS and our return on equity. We remain confident about the demand fundamentals of the business. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:28:53Continued growth in U. S. Natural gas liquids production and the significant build out in U. S. Export infrastructure over the next four years will support exports and thereby transport demand. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:29:05Near term, we expect the terminal throughput for Q2 to be materially higher than Q1 and with a widening ethylene arbitrage. The vessel supply picture remains attractive with a small handysize order book and an aging global fleet. So thanks a lot for listening. And now I'll hand it back to you, Randy, and we'll go to q and a. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:29:25Thank you, Mads. Operator, we'll now open the lines for some q and a. So to raise your hand, press star nine, and then you'll have to unmute yourself by pressing star six. Or if using Zoom, just use the raise hand function. So first question, your line should be open. Question, your line should be Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:29:40open. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:29:42Randy, thank you. Thanks for the update, guys. A couple questions from my end. I think, Oyvind, you spent a good amount of time talking about the market in April and and how things have improved thus far in May as the tariffs have gotten removed or lowered. Just wanted to ask when the China U. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:29:59S, say, trade got to a bit of a standstill, as you highlighted, what ended up happening elsewhere? Did you see any cargo opportunities to send to other areas in the Far East, or was it just a complete, you know, lull in the market? Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:30:14No. I mean, LPG is quite it's a deep market. It's a big market, and it's quite fungible, meaning that you can find other outlets. So positively for Navigator in that situation, so no LPG from US to China. So what does China do? Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:30:34They buy from other sources. So we actually did some trades that we haven't done before. LPG on the hand is sized from Middle East to China. So, usually, those ships are too small for such a long deep sea voyage on LPG. It's more for the VLGCs, but it happened. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:30:55And that is a sort of blip a positive blip if you if if you see it that way. But LPG generally caused inefficiencies, so ships were waiting, fully laden, deviating, different trades going to new places. And, generally, that was a positive for the market, generally, for LPG. Ethane stopped until China announced that, no, it's exempt from import duties, I. E, only 1% going from 01/1926 to 1%. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:31:29So that's clearly helpful. So those two things had an impact. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:31:36Okay. And then just in terms of how we saw things in the first quarter, it seems that your realized rate stayed fairly strong even as you were highlighting the arbitrage to move cargo kind of favored going the short haul route to Europe instead of to the Far East. Is that a bit of would you say that's a delayed reaction maybe that we will see some of that into the second quarter where we'll see the softer rate? Because, obviously, 30,000 is still quite strong in spite of that shorter haul. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:32:06I think when there was no smaller volumes of ethylene going through the terminal in the first quarter and rates were kept high, and now you're facing a situation whereby there's more volumes. So, you know, that's a positive if you're thinking about the second quarter. That's more supply that more volumes that needs to move on the same amount of ships. First quarter, most of it went Transatlantic to Europe, so on ethane and ethylene, shorter voyages. But now we're seeing also voyages going to Indonesia and other places for longer. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:32:46So yes, we're optimistic. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:32:50Okay. And one final one, and I'll turn it over. Maybe to you, Gary, you've got the new credit facility in place now that refinances this year's maturity. You've paid for the terminal expansion with your cash resources. And on the last call, you mentioned that you're aiming to put some debt in place on the terminal now that it's completed. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:33:10You've got the small balance left on that original loan for the pre expansion part of the terminal. What are you thinking right now in terms of, you know, putting some debt on on the on the project now? Any sense of timing or or amount? Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:33:24Yeah. I think what we can say, it's it's it's not imminent. I don't think it's top of our list. I think it's something that we've been looking at for a while, and I think there are various different things we can look at. Obviously, for Navigator, it's not ships, so it's it's something a little bit different for us to finance. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:33:44And I think, you know, with the contractual situation from the flex train there, we've been waiting for for that situation, which is coming along nicely. But because we've not been in a rush, I think we've been prioritizing our more expensive bank debt and our other facilities and getting that out of the way first. But it's certainly still on our list. But in terms of priority and timing, yeah, it's probably not right up at the top of the list. I think we we've got other things that that we can go for first. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLC00:34:17Okay. Thanks, Gary. Thanks, guys. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:34:20Thank you. Thank you, Omar. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:34:25All right. Next question. Your line should be open. Analyst00:34:28Hi. Just starting off on the buyback program. How do you think about deploying the new buyback program? And is there a mechanism for how you determine the amount of buybacks in any given quarter? Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:34:45Yeah. Thanks for that, Charles. So in terms of scale, you know, looking back over the last couple of years, we bought back around 55 or so million dollars each year. In 2022, we announced the program, the first fifty million dollar share buyback program and implemented it pretty soon thereafter. So certainly planning on putting this one to good use as well. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:35:06In terms of the scale, there are certain parameters and volume limitations that you can buy back on any given day and kind of an open market share repurchase program. So, obviously, we'll have to stay in line with those. But that said, you know, again, we're gonna do the 3,300,000.0 for sure in terms of share buybacks based on the return of capital policy. And the incremental one, we plan on utilizing here in the near term as well. So a lot of variables will determine the exact timing and scale of that, but it is something we plan on implementing, in the near term. Analyst00:35:38Got it. Understood. And just second question. Has volatility that you've seen in the market recently changed how you're approaching the chartering strategy? Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:35:51Charles, we mentioned we put in a a note, which we haven't done before in terms of our percentage cover over the next twelve month and the average rate of that. That certainly helped in April. I think that 41% is probably a little bit low, so we're looking to nudge it up a few percentage points. So it's something we we look at, and, of course, you are influenced by what's happening around you. But on a long term, we generally are just shy of 50% on cover because we really petrochemicals generally spot driven. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:36:28So and we believe in that market is coming back now. And then, of course, it's beneficial to have some spot open ships. Analyst00:36:37Understood. Thanks for the time. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:36:43Thank you, Charles. I believe that is it in terms of Q and A. So I'll turn it back to Mads for one final goodbye. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:36:53Good. Thanks for staying with us and listening in to our Q1 results. I think you can see that this is better than expected Q1. It was a quite robust result that we demonstrated here with good cash returns. And of course, that cash return then is translated into returning cash to shareholders. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:37:12So we are pleased to see that even in a time when things have been very dynamic around us that we can finance our vessels with strong support from our banks and we can also generate excess liquidity, so we can launch another share buyback. We've seen that as being a very good instrument in the past to to returning shares or capital to to shareholders, and and this is one that we'll keep prioritizing. So stay tuned, and thank you so much for listening in. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:37:42Wait one more second. It looks like we have a late addition to the Q and A. Clement, there he is. Your line is open. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:37:50Hi, Tim. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to delve a bit further into the TCE increase quarter over quarter. Was the bulk of the uplift attributable to solid performance or on the spot market, or was it mostly due to vessels on time charters being rolled at higher rates? Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:38:13You're muted, Ivan. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:38:15No. Oh, boy. Mostly on the time charter market, Clement. The spot market was getting a little bit choppy leading into to April. So generally attributed to to time charter, which proves the point that also customers are viewing 2025 as being quite tighter or tighter on ship. Oeyvind LindemanChief Commercial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:38:40So that's just a reflection of that. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:38:44Right. That's helpful. And this one is more on the modeling side, but should we expect the core pay payments on the ethylene export terminal to provide a tailwind to the JV's contribution in the second quarter? Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:39:00Yep. And I guess Yeah. Gary ChapmanChief Financial Officer at Navigator Holdings00:39:01Oh, go Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:39:01ahead, Martin. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:39:02No. No. That will certainly be the case. The deficiency payments tend to vary from contract to contract. So, so it it depends on on which the customer is, but but, typically, they will fall into the the following quarter portion of it. Mads ZachoChief Executive Officer at Navigator Holdings00:39:19So, yeah, you'll see a benefit or positive impact from it. Climent MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's Edge00:39:24That's helpful. Thank you. That's everything from me. Thank you for taking my questions. Randy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business Development at Navigator Holdings00:39:28Absolutely. Thanks for joining. Alright. With that, for real this time, thanks again, and we look forward to seeing you all in August.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesRandy GiveansExecutive Vice President, Investor Relations and Business DevelopmentMads ZachoChief Executive OfficerGary ChapmanChief Financial OfficerOeyvind LindemanChief Commercial OfficerAnalystsOmar NoktaManaging Director at Jefferies LLCAnalystCliment MolinsHead of Shipping Research at Value Investor's EdgePowered by