NYSE:CRBG Corebridge Financial Q1 2025 Earnings Report $31.78 -1.14 (-3.45%) Closing price 05/21/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$31.72 -0.06 (-0.19%) As of 05/21/2025 04:32 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Corebridge Financial EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.16Consensus EPS $1.15Beat/MissBeat by +$0.01One Year Ago EPS$1.10Corebridge Financial Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$4.74 billionExpected Revenue$5.28 billionBeat/MissMissed by -$539.78 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACorebridge Financial Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/5/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, May 6, 2025Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsCorebridge Financial's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 30, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Corebridge Financial Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 6, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, the Corbridge Financial Inc. First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call will begin shortly with your host, Michelle Mudarisoglu. We appreciate your patience as we prepare your session today. During the call, we encourage participants to raise any questions they may have. Good morning, all, and thank you for joining us for the Corbridge Financial Inc. Operator00:02:46First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. My name is Carly, and I'll be coordinating the call today. I'd now like to hand over to our host, Michelle Mudrysu. Floor is yours. Isil MuderrisogluHead of Investor & Rating Agency Relations at Corebridge Financial00:03:04Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Corbridge Financial's earnings update for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. Joining me on the call are Kevin Hogan, President and Chief Executive Officer and Elias Habayeb, Chief Financial Officer. We will begin with prepared remarks by Kevin and Elias, and then we will take your questions. Today's comments may contain forward looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. These statements are not guarantees of future performance or events and are based upon management's current expectations and assumptions. Isil MuderrisogluHead of Investor & Rating Agency Relations at Corebridge Financial00:03:41CorBridge's filings with the SEC provide details on important factors that may cause actual results or events to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward looking statements. Except as required by the applicable securities laws, CorBridge is under no obligation to update any forward looking statements if circumstances or management's estimates or opinions should change and you are cautioned to not place undue reliance on any forward looking statements. Additionally, today's remarks may refer to non GAAP financial measures. The reconciliation of such measures to the most comparable GAAP figures is included in our earnings release, financial supplement and earnings presentation, all of which are available on our website at investors.corbridgefinancial.com. With that, I would like to now turn the call over to Kevin and Elias for their prepared remarks. Isil MuderrisogluHead of Investor & Rating Agency Relations at Corebridge Financial00:04:36Kevin? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:04:37Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining. The macroeconomic uncertainty and heightened volatility of these past few months remind us that we live in a complex, ever changing world. At times like this, when conditions are uncertain, the mission of CorBridge to proudly partner with individuals, financial professionals and institutions to make it possible for more people to take action in their financial lives becomes more relevant than ever. Over 11,000 Americans are turning 65 every day, and the long term impact of a market downturn can be significant for retirees and those nearing retirement. Our company stands ready to support our customers in times like these, and our strength and stability have enabled us to serve through many periods of volatility and uncertainty. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:05:32Turning to first quarter results on Slide three. We are pleased to report another strong quarter that reflects the continued benefits of our diversified business model, strong balance sheet and disciplined execution. CorBridge reported operating earnings per share of $1.16 and ROE of 11.8%. We also returned $454,000,000 to shareholders delivering a payout ratio of 70%. Our balance sheet remains resilient with holding company liquidity of $2,400,000,000 in a high quality general account investment portfolio conservatively positioned with an average rating of single A. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:06:16Central to our success are four strategic pillars that drive EPS growth and long term value creation: organic growth, balance sheet optimization, expense efficiencies and active capital management. I will review the results of the quarter in the context of each. First, organic growth, where the breadth and diversity of our product portfolio and distribution platform are meaningful differentiators. CorBridge had a very good start to the year, delivering robust premiums and deposits of $9,300,000,000 although lower in total than last year's exceptionally strong level. We are seeing sustained customer demand driven by an aging U. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:07:00S. Population and an advisor community that recognizes the value of annuities. In support of our growth, we are investing in digital capabilities, expanding our product offerings and deepening relationships with our distribution partners while also developing new channels. In Individual Retirement, we continue to benefit from favorable market and demographic conditions, producing premiums and deposits of $4,700,000,000 We have consistently maintained a top tier market position over the last ten years as our broad product suite serves a wide range of retirement needs. We are also building momentum following the successful introduction of our Vila product in October 2024, delivering over $260,000,000 of sales in the first quarter. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:07:52We are now actively selling through our largest distribution partners and after launching in California last month are admitted in all but two states. Looking forward, we are well positioned in the fast growing RILA market given our strong product, broad reach and long tenured relationships. Group Retirement continues to deliver steady periodic in plan deposits driven by increased advisor focus and sustained client demand. Our employee advisor force is growing, and the investments we are making in advisor productivity are beginning to yield results, with in plan average enrollments up 9% and in plan average deposits up 10%. Additionally, I am pleased to note that we added our Ryla product to the out of plan offering, delivering approximately $50,000,000 of sales in the first quarter. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:08:47We also continued to grow our advisory and brokerage business with 5% AUMA growth year over year, even with lower equity market performance in 2025. Life Insurance delivered another quarter of attractive performance, including both strong sales and mortality results better than expectations. This business continues to perform well supported by our strong product positioning, digital and automated underwriting capabilities and expanding distribution. With nearly $1,000,000,000,000 of gross in force, this business remains a mainstay for Corbridge, providing stability during periods of market volatility. Institutional Markets has continued to focus on growing our GIC program with discipline, and I am pleased to say that we have been successful with GICT reserves increasing 48% year over year. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:09:44We also continue to capture attractive opportunities in pension risk transfer with a promising pipeline of transactions developing over the rest of the year. Across CoreBridge, we are proud of the new business we are generating, the discipline we have maintained and the momentum we are building. We remain focused on targeting profitable business with double digit IRRs even as conditions evolve sometimes rapidly. We have consistently demonstrated the ability to pivot across product and channel, dialing up or down to focus our efforts where risk adjusted returns are the most attractive and customer needs the greatest. Turning to the second strategic pillar, optimizing our balance sheet, we have also made meaningful progress. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:10:33Through proactive asset liability management and disciplined risk oversight, we are enhancing our financial strength while positioning CoreBridge for long term success. Bermuda continues to be an important part of our capital management strategy. And in the first quarter, we ceded approximately $2,000,000,000 in reserves to our affiliated reinsurer. We also remain active in exploring opportunities across our company to enhance capital efficiency and increase shareholder value. Moving to the third strategic pillar, we continue to drive operating efficiency and improve operating leverage. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:11:13These efforts help support disciplined growth and financial flexibility. As we continue to transform CoreBridge, we recently conducted a voluntary early retirement program for eligible colleagues in The U. S. Through this program, we expect to further reduce our expense base and at the same time, create capacity to invest in new skills and capabilities and reshape our workforce. We are also pursuing opportunities to enhance efficiency as we further digitize end to end processes that support our insurance operations. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:11:48Additionally, we continue to make investments to further modernize our finance and actuarial capabilities. Turning to the fourth strategic pillar. We are committed to providing an attractive and growing return to our shareholders in a thoughtful and balanced manner while maintaining the flexibility to pursue growth and innovation. Over the last twelve months, through our share repurchase program, we have reduced share count by over 10%. Together, these four strategic pillars are helping us build a stronger, more agile company, and we are well positioned to generate sustainable growth and create long term value for shareholders. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:12:31Moving to our financial targets, I am pleased to note that CorBridge continues to deliver. Our expectation is for annual run rate EPS to increase on average in the range of 10% to 15% over the long term. Elias will provide more perspective on our outlook as well as an update on our market sensitivities. Corporidge achieved a run rate ROE of 12.3% in the first quarter and we remain committed to our 12% to 14% annual target. The Life Fleet RBC ratio remains above target even with recent market volatility. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:13:11We also delivered a 70% payout ratio and are maintaining our target of 60% to 65%. Moving to Slide five. Since 2017, regardless of market cycle, Corbridge has been able to significantly grow our business while maintaining a strong balance sheet and consistent cash generation. To put that in numbers, over the last eight years, we have increased sales by over 50%. At the same time, our Life Fleet RBC ratio has consistently exceeded target and our insurance companies have generated on average over $2,100,000,000 in cash annually. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:13:53These outcomes collectively demonstrate the CoreBridge value proposition. We are well positioned across a range of macro environments to continue creating shareholder value and to continue delivering for our customers. And now I will hand the call over to Elias. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:14:12Thank you, Kevin. I will begin my comments today on Slide six. CorBridge reported first quarter adjusted pretax operating income of $810,000,000 or operating earnings per share of $1.16 a 5% increase year over year on a per share basis. Our operating EPS included two notable items this quarter, resulting in a favorable impact of $01 Details can be found in our earnings presentation. Annualized alternative investment returns were $06 short of our long term expectations, largely due to real estate equity returns. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:14:57Adjusting for notable items and alternative investment returns, we delivered run rate operating EPS of $1.21 and adjusted ROE of 12.3%. Moving to Slide seven. Core sources of income, excluding notable items and the sale of our International Life business, grew by 1% year over year, driven by higher fee income and improved underwriting margin. Base spread income declined by 3% over the same period. This was driven by profitable growth offset by the earn in of Fed rate actions from the second half of twenty twenty four and dynamics in group retirement as its earnings transition from spread to fee income. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:15:48Sequentially, base spread income increased by 3%. This change was mainly driven by profitable growth that outweighed the earn in of Fed rate actions, which was in line with our prior guidance. In total, the underlying fundamentals behind base spread income continued to be bolstered by 8% growth in the general account and attractive new money yields, which exceeded roll off yields in the portfolio by approximately 100 basis points. Additionally, fee income improved by 1% year over year largely as a result of higher account values along with our growing advisory and brokerage business. Underwriting margin improved by 12% year over year driven by more favorable mortality experience. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:16:42Pivoting to expenses, first quarter general operating expenses for our insurance businesses and parent company were 5% higher year over year after excluding the sale of our International Life business. This largely reflects savings from corporate forward offset by costs attributable to business growth as well as higher compensation and benefit expenses. Our first quarter results reflect both planned investments in talent to support growth and timing of our annual performance related equity grants. Adding to Kevin's earlier comments about the voluntary early retirement program, we currently estimate this will have a onetime cost of $85,000,000 As this program demonstrates, Corporate remains disciplined in our approach to expense management and is committed to managing costs thoughtfully while supporting key strategic initiatives and business priorities. Next, I will briefly review a few highlights from each of our businesses. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:17:54Details on the four segments can be found in our earnings presentation. As a reminder, results exclude the impact of notable items, variable investment income and the sale of our International Life business. While adjusted pretax operating income for Individual retirement declined by 10% year over year, the fundamentals for this business remain strong and the market conditions attractive. As I previously shared, spread income was impacted by two factors we see as short term in nature: Fed rate actions and our hedging activities to maintain alignment between assets and liabilities. Consistent with prior guidance, these items collectively reduced base spread income by approximately $50,000,000 for the quarter. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:18:49In addition, results were impacted by higher DAC and commissions related to business growth, also consistent with our prior guidance. For the general account, Individual Retirement generated net inflows of $1,100,000,000 demonstrating the strength of our asset origination capabilities, product portfolio and distribution network supported by ongoing strong customer demand. Group Retirement delivered another steady quarter with core earnings of $167,000,000 Of note, this quarter's base spread income benefited from opportunistic asset repositioning efforts. Given the ongoing shift in our customer base and resulting net outflows, we expect to see continuation of the transition from spread to fee based income over time. As a result, net outflows were $1,800,000,000 which is consistent with our prior guidance and in line with levels observed in the first half of twenty twenty four. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:20:03We continue to be excited about the opportunities in this space, especially as customers seek solutions to position their portfolios for retirement. And as such, we remain focused on efforts to grow the advisory and brokerage business. Life insurance continues to be a strong performer. Adjusted pretax operating income increased by 23% year over year, primarily driven by more favorable mortality experience. In institutional markets, adjusted pretax operating income was virtually flat year over year. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:20:43That said, total sources of income grew by 33% supported by robust reserve growth of 17% over the same period. As a reminder, earnings from this segment may reflect some quarterly volatility, but we expect earnings to increase over time as reserves grow. Overall, Corbridge continues to benefit from our diversified and complementary portfolio of market leading businesses, which remains a key component of our shareholder value proposition. Moving to Slide eight, where I will focus on three key areas of capital, liquidity and the balance sheet. Excluding $1,000,000,000 to cover the April 2025 debt maturity, CorBridge ended the quarter with $1,400,000,000 of cash on hand at the holding company, supported by $600,000,000 of distributions from our U. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:21:48S. Insurance companies in this quarter. This level exceeds the holding company's needs for the next twelve months, and I will note that we have no material debt maturities until 2027. Our insurance companies have a strong liquidity profile driven by positive operating cash flows, liquid invested assets and contingent liquidity sources, all of which help provide ample flexibility to respond to a range of macro environments. Our insurance companies also remain well capitalized with their respective capital ratios exceeding target. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:22:31CorBridge continues to actively manage capital in a disciplined and forward looking manner, maintaining a sufficient buffer to withstand market volatility and capture attractive growth opportunities. This active management includes our hedging programs, which continue to perform as expected. These programs help safeguard statutory capital, support our ability to deliver consistent cash flows and protect long term value for shareholders. Further, they are important to our balance sheet management strategy and are designed to help protect it against market movements, including during periods of volatility like we're currently experiencing. Given the uncertain economic landscape and growing concerns about a recession, we understand there's heightened focus on insurers' investment portfolios. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:23:31So let me pause here and offer a few highlights on our $223,000,000,000 investment portfolio. First and foremost, our portfolio is diversified across asset class, sector, geography and issuer, making it less vulnerable to systemic risk, and it's proven to be resilient across past credit cycles. Approximately 97% is invested in fixed income and short term investments, the bulk of which consists of liquid high quality bonds. 95% of our fixed maturities are rated investment grade. This portfolio reflects actions taken over the past few years to improve credit quality and return on capital. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:24:20As our investment strategy is liability driven, our credit portfolio is a mix of public, private and structured products, put together with the goal of maximizing risk adjusted returns while maintaining tight alignment between our assets and liabilities. For public credit, we maintain a high quality bias with significant exposure to investment grade corporate bonds that provide liquidity and regulatory capital efficiency. Private credit allocations, the vast majority of which are traditional investment grade corporate private placements, benefits from illiquidity premiums and contain negotiated protective financial covenants. Corbridge believes this asset class will generally perform better during a downturn due to the protections built into the transactions. And structured products provide us with exposures to diversified collateral. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:25:22Approximately 95% is comprised of the more senior tranches with significant credit enhancements. Lastly, commercial mortgage loans are performing as expected and we have maintained our conservative reserving approach. I will now wrap up with our latest sensitivities. We previously commented on the fourth quarter twenty twenty four earnings call that 2025 EPS growth would be below our long term expectations of 10% to 15% due to the drag from the earn in of Fed rate actions. At that time, we anticipated EPS in 2025 would grow by mid single digits from the 2024 base of $4.99 These projections assume annual equity market returns of 8%, alternatives improving over the course of the year to achieve our 8% to 9% target return by the end of 2025 and fifty basis points of Fed rate cuts in 2025. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:26:37Given recent increased volatility, we are providing updated sensitivities to equity markets and interest rates. The net impact from an immediate 10% change in the S and P 500 Index on the combination of fee income and advisory fee expense is approximately $85,000,000 over the first twelve months. Further, each 25 basis points move in SOFR impacts base portfolio income by approximately two basis points. This sulfur rate sensitivity is lower than our prior guidance due to a reduction in net floating rate exposures over the past two quarters. Lastly, given the lack of deal activity because of current market uncertainty, we expect alternative investments returns to fall short of our long term return expectations of 8% to 9% in 2025. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:27:40For the second quarter, we expect alternative investment returns will be approximately half the level in the first quarter based on the information available to us at this time. In conclusion, our proactive balance sheet management, supported by strong reserving practices and risk controls, has enabled Corbridge to pursue profitable growth across multiple cycles while delivering on financial and capital management goals. Corbridge will remain disciplined in managing our financial flexibility, balancing prudence with the agility to invest in the future. Now I will turn the call back to Isha. Isil MuderrisogluHead of Investor & Rating Agency Relations at Corebridge Financial00:28:24Thank you, Elias. As a reminder, please limit yourselves to one question and one follow-up. Operator, we are now ready to begin the Q and A portion of the call. Operator00:28:36Thank you. We'd now like to open the lines for Q Our first question comes from Dan Bergmann of Cowen. Dan, your line is now open. Daniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD Cowen00:28:54Thanks. Good morning. Daniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD Cowen00:28:57Your base yield took a nice step up quarter over quarter, particularly in the Group Retirement segment. I know you mentioned some actions you took to reposition the portfolio this quarter. I wanted to see if you could just give a little more detail around those actions. And given you previously talked about some opportunities to optimize the asset portfolio, I guess what inning are you in for that process? And as we look ahead, how should we think about the ability for you to take further steps to improve yields in the coming quarters? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:29:21Yes. Thanks, Dan. Appreciate the question. Look, I'll start and then I'll pass over to Elias. As you noted, the sequential increase in the Group Retirement based spreads and spread income kind of as in the case of individual retirement reflects some opportunistic asset repositioning, which is really part of our active our regular active portfolio management strategy that Elias will touch on in a bit. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:29:49But I think what's important to take away is that we don't expect a change in the trend over time. We see this business transitioning from spread to a fee based business. Fee income is already the predominant source of revenues for that business. There are going to be some variances quarter to quarter driven by sort of one time items and some seasonality related to where we credit interest. But we think this is a positive trend over time from spread to fee income. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:30:20Now in terms of the yield questions, I'll pass that over to Elias. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:30:23Hey, thanks, Kevin. And hey, Dan, if you look at our track record, we've taken advantage opportunistically from time to time where we had opportunities to reposition assets and pick up yields and improve return on capital. And when looking at the first quarter, what we did in Group Retirement, we saw a similar opportunity and we did to some extent also on the individual retirement space take advantage of it. And we'll continue to do that whenever the opportunity arises and when it and when within our risk parameters. And if you look at the what we did in '22, '20 '3, '20 '4 also against the in force and individual retirement, this is kind of no different than the stuff we've done previously. Daniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD Cowen00:31:12Got it. That's really helpful. Thank you. Daniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD Cowen00:31:15And then maybe just a little bit of Daniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD Cowen00:31:16a broad one. But given the recent market volatility, just wanted to see if you could provide an update on what you're seeing in the market for your various individual retirement products. I guess how is industry demand holding up amidst the volatility? And how are you finding the competitive environment across your different product areas? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:31:32Yes, sure. Thanks. Look, the demand for annuities remains robust. The belly of the yield curve remains supportive. Credit spreads, I think are also relevant there. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:31:47And above all, the long term macro drivers are really very powerful trends, the aging of the population, the need for people to look after their own retirements and a supportive advisor community. And based on our experience market uncertainty actually further increases the demand for our products sometimes in the income benefits and sometimes in the accumulation areas. Of our various products fixed annuities are the most sort of immediately sensitive. And in the first the fourth quarter and the first quarter there were a few periods of lower sales in the face of some of the market changes. And while we maintained our usual pricing discipline. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:32:30But I wouldn't read too much into that. We see very strong demand continuing for the index product in particular. Fixed annuity conditions remain very attractive. And we're off to a great start with our Ryla product. We continue to see the way I define rationality of pricing and competition is whether or not we're able to meet our margins on new business and we continue to see attractive new business margins. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:33:04Now I would point out second quarter of last year was kind of an exceptional period where everything came together. And I wouldn't expect that type of quarter to necessarily repeat. But overall, the conditions are very attractive and we're confident in growing our individual retirement overall general accounts and spread income over time. Daniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD Cowen00:33:31Got it. Super helpful. Thank you. Operator00:33:36Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Elyse Greenspan of Wells Fargo. Elyse, your line is now open. Elyse GreenspanManaging Director at Wells Fargo Securities00:33:44Hi, thanks. You guys said this quarter, which I know you typically say in calls, just that you guys are continuing to explore opportunities across the company to enhance capital efficiency. Can you just expand on I guess what's top of mind on that list today? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:34:05Yes. So Elyse, thanks for the question. Look, we're always looking for opportunities increase our efficiency, increase shareholder value and optimize our portfolio. We continue to expand our Bermuda strategy, which is an important part of our capital management toolkit. And we added an additional $2,000,000,000 of reserves this quarter. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:34:31So we've ceded $14,000,000,000 with the new strategy to date. And we are early in the stages of our Bermuda strategy. We see further opportunities for both in force and new business sessions. In addition to that, obviously external reinsurance transactions are something that we evaluate from time to time. And any transaction we've consistently said must be accretive on a risk adjusted basis. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:35:00And so we continue to explore those opportunities. We're always open to considering ways to increase shareholder value and we'll be happy to share anything new at an appropriate time. Elyse GreenspanManaging Director at Wells Fargo Securities00:35:16Thanks. And then my second question, you guys the opening commentary you're pointing to, I think you said a promising pipeline of PRT deals over the rest of the year. I know some peers have just pointed to volatility perhaps impacting deal flow in that business this year. Can you just kind of talk to what you're seeing and how you expect things to transpire over the rest of the year? Thank you. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:35:43Yes. Thanks, Elyse. Look, we continue to see very robust opportunities for pension risk transfer. For quite some time, we've been focused on full plan terminations, which are transactions generally in the region of $500,000,000 to $1,000,000,000 We carefully underwrite these. They're essentially like little mini M and A transactions where we have to carefully evaluate both liabilities and asset strategies. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:36:13Pension plans continue to be well funded. Generally, these transactions result from committed corporate risk management strategies. They like M and A transactions are not predictable. We don't necessarily expect them to land regularly quarter by quarter. But the pipeline both in The U. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:36:33S. And also in The UK continues to be as strong as we've seen it. And we don't necessarily see any indications that volatility is going to have significant impact on timing or pursuit of these transactions. Operator00:36:56Thank you very much. Next question comes from Joel Hurwitz of Dowling and Partners. Joel, your line is now open. Joel HurwitzLead Analyst at Dowling & Partners00:37:05Hey, good morning. First, a couple on expenses. Expenses in individual retirement and corporate were up from where you've been running. How much would you attribute that to seasonality? Then on the voluntary separation, any expectation for expense savings running through operating earnings? Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:37:25Hey, Joel, it's Elias. So with this is a component of what you're seeing in individual retirement and the parent and in total across the board is seasonality. Typically, first quarter is higher tied to the rule of 65, which is people based on age and years of service. If they meet the rule of 65, equity grants are expensed upfront versus over three years. And this year, we had a higher dollar amount of equity grants meeting the Rule of 65. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:38:00So that's a component of it. And the second component is our payroll taxes and four zero one matches are kind of front loaded. And as you progress in the year, those will come down. So there's definitely seasonality there. I would say about 50% of the increase in IR is tied to that on that spot. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:38:22With respect to early retirement program, that's kind of one of the initiatives we are undertaking to continue to modernize our organization and improve our operating leverage. The expectation is a portion of the savings out of the early retirement program will drop to the bottom line and a portion we're going to use to fund investments in new capabilities for the next leg of our journey. We do expect that to benefit our expense run rate. But given the timing of when people depart, it will not fully earn into the run rate till the beginning of twenty twenty six. Joel HurwitzLead Analyst at Dowling & Partners00:39:03Okay. Very helpful. And then just a second one. In group, you've been talking about growing your out of plan business in the advisory and brokerage business. Can you just provide an update on the organic growth that you're seeing there? Joel HurwitzLead Analyst at Dowling & Partners00:39:16And then what sort of traction your advisers are gaining? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:39:20Yes. Thanks. Appreciate the question, Joel. I mean Group Retirement as you pointed out and as I mentioned is not solely a spread business. And we're seeing very attractive opportunities in the out of plan and the advisory and brokerage space. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:39:40Overall, our advisor force is growing And the advisors support both the in plan and the out of plan strategies with in plan having advisory options as well. Our advisory and brokerage assets are now $16,000,000,000 They're up 5% year over year. And if you look at the combination of the out of plan plus the advisory and brokerage assets, it's a significant earnings base at $99,000,000,000 We're seeing we've been investing in advisor productivity. And as per my prepared remarks, we're seeing some improvements in the productivity in terms of enrollments and deposits. And maybe the most important numbers of all is of our 1,900,000 customers in this business, 1,600,000 of them are still implant only customers. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:40:34And our advisers are building relationships with them in order to prepare for that important moment of household asset consolidation. And so we're in the early stages of the change in the trend from a spread to a fee based business, but the signs are very positive across the board. Joel HurwitzLead Analyst at Dowling & Partners00:40:58Okay. Thank you. Operator00:41:01Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Suneet Kamath of Jefferies. Suneet, your line is now open. Suneet KamathSenior Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company Inc00:41:14Great. Thank you. So you had guided to elevated surrenders in Individual Retirement, I think, in 1Q and then 3Q and 4Q. It didn't seem like we saw a big change here in 1Q. Is that because the surrenders will roll off more in the latter half of the year? Suneet KamathSenior Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company Inc00:41:31And then do you have a sense of what rolled off? Like what were you able to retain through other products? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:41:41Yes. Thanks, Suneet. Good morning. Yes. What we said last quarter, we do expect higher levels of fixed annuity and indexed annuity volumes to be exiting their surrender charge period. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:41:52And that is in particular in the second half of this year. And we see this as kind of natural given the significant growth in the whole portfolio over the last few years, but in particular since 2022 when the rate environment really started change. And so this increase in volumes exiting surrender charge periods, it's not going to be consistent quarter to quarter. It really reflects where large volumes of product were sold in the past. On the other hand, in our experience surrender rates reflect really where yields and credit spreads are at a given time. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:42:32And over the last few cycles, we haven't seen anything that's outside of our expectations along those lines. And we've seen generally that when surrender rates are higher, usually the conditions for new business are also very attractive, which is important as really what we're focused on is the long term growth of our general account net of any surrenders. So it's not necessarily I mean, we look at options as to how we may preserve surrenders, but more importantly, we look at new business pricing and new business pricing is very attractive. And so irrespective of the surrender behaviors and activity, we expect that the general account and spread income will continue to grow over time. And the environment continues to be very robust for our entire range of individual retirement products index annuities, fixed annuities and most recently our RILA which is off to a great start. Suneet KamathSenior Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company Inc00:43:37Got it. That's helpful. Thanks. And then on Slide five, I thought that picture of cash generation over time was pretty impressive. But if I look at the data, it looks like it's been relatively flattish at that kind of $2,000,000,000 ish level. Suneet KamathSenior Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company Inc00:43:51And I think on the last call you talked about increasing it by 10%. So I just want to understand what's different now that allows you to grow it? And should we think about that 10% as really just a bump up? Or is that more of a on an annual basis, you want to increase that by 10%? Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:44:09Suneet, it's Elias. So if you look back historically, there was a different kind of strategy at the time and the historical numbers are a bit normalized. And you could find that in the S-one in our public filings. Let's talk now about the strategy since we go public we've gone public. Our strategy has been to grow earnings and increase cash generation to deliver on the 60% to 65% payout ratio. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:44:38Our target for this year is to grow the insurance company dividends by 5% to 10% and we believe we're on track to delivering it. And sitting here today despite the market volatility, we remain confident in our expectation to deliver the increased 5% to 10% in dividends from the insurance companies and deliver on our payout ratio. We'd expect that to continue to grow over time as we grow the profitability of the business. Suneet KamathSenior Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company Inc00:45:10Okay. That's helpful. Thanks. Operator00:45:15Thank you very much. Our next question comes from K. V. Montesire with Deutsche Bank. K. Operator00:45:22V. Your line is now open. Cave MontazeriAnalyst at Deutsche Bank00:45:24Good morning. My first question is on your guidance for base spread income. So you've reduced your sensitivity to short term interest rates. And I think in your prepared remarks, you mentioned that it was mainly due to reducing your exposure to floating rates. So I guess I'm wondering, A, is that the right answer? Cave MontazeriAnalyst at Deutsche Bank00:45:45And then two, how are you thinking about your hedging philosophy and how maybe that could impact your sensitivity going forward? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:45:55Yes. Thanks, KV. Good morning. Look, maybe I'll unpack the IR spread income story a little bit for you. So as we just talked about, right, the first quarter spreads and spread income as in the case of Group Retirement did benefit from some asset repositioning, which helped to offset the impact that we had guided to relative to the fourth quarter Fed rate actions and how they affected in particular sulfur. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:46:29And looking ahead, we actually continue to expect that base spread income will grow over time even if there is a little bit of marginal spread compression. We provided the sulfur cut sensitivity and just remind you that those are generally short term in impact. And we have lowered our sensitivity since the fourth quarter from the three bps to the two bps. But really the overriding driver of spread income is ultimately business operations. And there are very powerful drivers on the macro side that I'm not going to necessarily repeat. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:47:04In current new business pricing is at or above our medium term return expectations. The investment environment is good. Our new money rates are still 100 basis points over the roll off. And so it's not going to be a straight line. There'll be a little variability quarter to quarter. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:47:23But the fundamental trend is that the general account we're growing the general account reserves over time and base spread income will grow over time irrespective of underlying spread dynamics, which will be an important contributor to our growth targets. I'll hand it over to Elias to talk a little bit about the hedging question. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:47:43Yes. And listen, from the hedging question, we've talked in the past like one of the aspects of how we manage the balance sheet is the ALM profile of the balance sheet, and our investment strategy is liability driven. So we adjust the asset side to what we see on the liability side. And what we have done is reduced our net floating rate exposure. We've held floaters in the portfolio for two reasons. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:48:11One, we find them as an attractive asset class and on a relative value basis. At times, they've offered better returns than to fixed rate bonds. And separately, we've used them as a tool to manage the ALM profile of the balance sheet. So when rates increased in 2022 and liability durations came in significantly, we used in addition to derivatives, we used an increased allocation to floaters to shorten the duration of the asset. So and we will continue to manage it within that discipline. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:48:45And as a result of what's played out in our portfolio, we've reduced the floating rate exposure. So if you recall, at the September, when we first talked about it, we said about 8% of the investment portfolio was in a net floating rate position. That's down to about 5% as of the March from it. And that's been the driver behind why the sensitivity has improved since then. And that's also kind of consistent to what we hinted at back at the third quarter earnings call when we gave the initial sensitivity that we expected that sensitivity to decline over time. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:49:21So it's playing out kind of consistent with what we expected. And just to echo Kevin's comments, our guidance on spread income in Individual Retirement is we expect it to grow over time. The business dynamics is great. If you look at the new money yields relative to what's rolling off, and I quoted it in my script, this quarter we had 100 basis point differential that's kind of accretive. And if you look at what happened to spread income in the quarter, while the earning of the 100 basis points was consistent with the prior guidance we gave you, it's where we were able to mitigate it with growth in the business side as well as some asset repositioning to take advantage of opportunities to improve returns in the investment portfolio within our risk and capital parameters. Cave MontazeriAnalyst at Deutsche Bank00:50:13Thank you. That's very helpful. Second pivot to technology. Just wondering if you can get an update on Simply Now and some of the other new tech initiatives you have going on. I think in the past, you've mentioned, at least for life insurance, 80% of new policies were auto decision. Cave MontazeriAnalyst at Deutsche Bank00:50:32Just wondering if you can expand that maybe what you're seeing in other segments and how you're using digital capabilities to further improve your process not just on the cost side, but also to drive top line growth. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:50:46Yes. Thanks, KZ. Look, we're really proud of our life insurance business and we have been investing in that business over a number of years, starting with our data strategy and then ultimately building into our digital capabilities and automated underwriting, which is ultimately what's driving I think a lot of the success there. The work we've done also in repositioning our product strategy is kind of hand in glove with that and focusing on products that are less interest rate sensitive and also maybe a little bit less pricing sensitive. And we're pleased with the strong position that we have there. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:51:36Elias talked about the fact that after our early voluntary early retirement program, I mean, part of those savings will drop to the bottom line, but part of those are being reinvested in the business. Important investments that we're making include further investments in our data and digital and automation strategies. We're starting to see some of the benefits of those in our Retirement Services business. You'll see some of that in the advisor efficiency numbers that I quoted in my prepared remarks. And then we're also adopting a strategy of enhancing our capabilities in our finance and actuarial and our other sort of administrative support activities. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:52:20And so the benefits of the data, digital and automation strategies, We're in the early stages of exploring tools like advanced practices and artificial intelligence, but that's something that is on our path. And we do see it as an important opportunity to increase our scalability and our operating efficiency and operating leverage over time. Cave MontazeriAnalyst at Deutsche Bank00:52:46Thank you. Operator00:52:51Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Alex Scott of Barclays. Alex, your line is now open. Alex ScottEquity Research Analyst at Barclays00:52:59Hey, good Alex ScottEquity Research Analyst at Barclays00:53:00morning. The first one I had for you is on the relationship with Nippon. I think the last time you were asked on one of these calls about the relationship you hadn't gotten through some of the regulatory approvals and so forth. So it's hard to talk more about it. And I was interested if you had any more color on just the ways that your two firms may work together in partnership. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:53:22Yes. Thanks Alex. Appreciate the question. Look, we're very excited about our relationship with Nippon Life. They've joined the board. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:53:31They're already contributing there. We're both large diverse companies that we operate in very different markets and we have a lot that we can learn from each other. We're taking a structured approach to looking at what are the various areas in which we may be able to generate some mutually beneficial commercial activities. And we're working our way through evaluating those opportunities. And I'm sure that both companies will be excited to come forward when we have something significant that we've identified and that we're in a position to announce. Alex ScottEquity Research Analyst at Barclays00:54:12Got it. That's helpful. Second one I have for you is just going to the asset portfolio. And I know you mentioned some in your opening remarks. I just wanted to ask about if there's anything you could provide that would help frame for us how you'd expect the portfolio to perform in different types of scenarios if we were to get some kind of credit event. Alex ScottEquity Research Analyst at Barclays00:54:39Reason I ask is just there is a little bit more invested asset leverage just given you're more of a fixed annuity company. And this between now and the next time you have an earnings call, the environment could potentially change more significantly. So I just wanted to see if we could get a feel for how you expect that to perform. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:54:58Yes. Thanks, Alex. Look, I'll hand over to Elias in a minute here. But I'll just start off with, look, we're very comfortable with our overall asset portfolio and our credit exposure. And it reflects both years of actions to improve the quality, but also the fact that we very much focus on an asset strategy to support our liability portfolio. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:55:25And I'll let Elias go through the characteristics of the portfolio that put us in this position where we're comfortable with the exposure. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:55:35Hey, Alex. From a credit perspective, credit risk is like one of the top risks we proactively manage in our portfolio. And part of our strategy in addition to be liability driven is to maintain diversification, so we don't have concentration risk and maintain a high quality portfolio. And right now, 95% of the book is investment grade and we've migrated the average credit rating of the fixed maturities to a single A over the last couple of years. And we have a high allocation to liquid assets. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:56:12So we do subject the portfolio to various forms of sensitivities and stress testing and that kind of helps inform us on decisions we take. We feel comfortable from a credit loss perspective. On the portfolio, our biggest allocation is to public credits. On the private side, the largest allocation is to traditional investment grade private placements, which is not a new asset class for the insurance companies and not for us. And those come with strong financial covenants that gives us protections if there's stress. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:56:50In addition, on structured products, we tend to be at the top end of or the higher end of the capital structure, which gives us significant enhancements. And we're proactive. If we start seeing things that are going sideways, we'll take action, exit positions to cut our losses before things play out. And we do carry a pretty meaningful allowance for loan losses on the loan side, so we feel comfortable with it. So from the loss perspective, we feel comfortable. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:57:24There's always risk on rating downgrades, but again, we've got tools available to us to mitigate that impact. And finally, kind of remember, we're in a very we have a strong balance sheet. Our RBC at the end of the year was $426,000,000 You combine the balance sheet with the high credit quality portfolio with diversification and conservative reserving on the portfolio and we kind of feel comfortable with where we are right now. Alex ScottEquity Research Analyst at Barclays00:57:55That's really helpful. Thank you. Operator00:57:59Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Jimmy Bhullar of JPMorgan. Jimmy, your line is now open. Jimmy, can we start to check your lines locally muted? Jimmy BhullarEquity Research Analyst at JP Morgan00:58:17Hi. My questions were actually answered and I pressed star one, but I guess it didn't go through. Maybe I'll ask one on just your RBC ratio. It's still above 400%, but I wanted to see if you saw some decline in the directionally at least in the quarter given the moves in the market and just moves in interest rates as well. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:58:41Hey, Jimmy, it's Elias. I'm happy to answer. So there is some sensitivity to rates and equity markets from an RBC perspective. It's different than the sensitivities on GAAP operating income because on an RBC basis, you've got to think through the impact available as well as required capital. But given the diversification in our balance sheet as well as the hedging programs we have in place, that impact is limited. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:59:12And you've got the proof points with Slide five, if you go back, because some of those were during periods of volatility in the market and RBC was maintained above 400. The other thing I would say around market volatility and the impact of RBC, that's kind of temporary and short term. And as markets reverse, the impact reverses as well with it. So to us, we look at that more as a temporary impact for us and it's the impact is limited given the hedging and the diversification. Credit to us is more meaningful from an RBC perspective, and that's what we try to proactively manage too. Jimmy BhullarEquity Research Analyst at JP Morgan01:00:00Okay. And then I think Kevin in his remarks and you as well had given out some numbers on sensitivity to the weak market and potentially weak alternative investment income. And you were referring to adjusted earnings. Should we assume that the impact on cash flows is similar or is it higher or lower for some? Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial01:00:20So the impact, if you think about it in terms of fee income, that will be mirrored on the cash flow side. If you think about it in terms of alternatives, that's more mark to market impact in earnings versus distributions. That being said, we remain confident in the cash flows in our business and we've demonstrated over time stability in the cash generation given the diversification in the business model. And sitting here today, we remain confident in being able to deliver on our payout ratio target for the year. Jimmy BhullarEquity Research Analyst at JP Morgan01:01:03Thank you. Operator01:01:06Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Tom Gallagher of Evercore ISI. Tom, your line is now open. Thomas GallagherAnalyst at Evercore01:01:17Good morning. First question just on the portfolio repositioning and then I had a follow-up on risk transfer. But on the portfolio repositioning, I guess two part question. One, how involved are you on the reallocation considering you're outsourcing most of the portfolio individual fixed income decisions to Blackstone and BlackRock. Are you actually involved in the bond by bond trades between them? Thomas GallagherAnalyst at Evercore01:01:53Or is it more of a broader overall portfolio allocation type of responsibility you now have? And then can you provide a little more color for if you're selling down your floaters, what are you repositioning that into? Is it private credit? Is it something else? A little bit of more elaboration on what's going on beneath the surface here. Thomas GallagherAnalyst at Evercore01:02:18Thanks. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial01:02:19Yes. Thanks, Tom. Look, I'll start. We control our investment strategy. We have very powerful origination partners and they're an extension of what our capabilities are. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial01:02:32But the strategy is ours, the risk appetite is ours and we provide very clear guidelines and allocations and instructions and are actively managing the portfolio through our partners. But I'll hand it over to Elias to address some of your other questions. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial01:02:52Yes, Tom, it's Elias. So to Kevin's point, we drive the decisions around repositioning as well as the decisions around where money gets invested. The different managers, BlackRock, Blackstone, but there's also our own internal team is still sourcing assets for us. It's based on what they, you know, they get allocations based on what they they think they could source for us and how that fits within the liabilities we offer. With respect to the repositioning we did in the first quarter, it got reinvested in combination. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial01:03:27Some of it was public credit, some of it was private credit. And we sold down some lower yielding bonds and reinvested the money. Thomas GallagherAnalyst at Evercore01:03:39Got you. Thank you for that. And then just on risk transfer, I guess we've had two recent deals in the market, one VA, another pretty big life deal. I would describe them as the pricing on VA was low, the pricing on high was pretty robust. How important is the pricing versus the view of tail risk? Thomas GallagherAnalyst at Evercore01:04:03Because I guess when I look at your VA block, I don't really think about it as being high risk. It seems like pretty low risk, even though it's a high risk category, I guess you could call it. So I'm just curious how you're approaching those two different businesses when you consider risk transfer. Is it really about optimizing shareholder value or reducing tail risk? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial01:04:29So any transaction that we would pursue has to be accretive on a risk adjusted basis, just repeating what I said before. And that means both in terms of price and structure. Credit protection is important, price is important and there's we're constantly looking at what is the value add opportunity for the company. Yes. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial01:04:56And Tom, we do look at what the company would look like after that transaction. So it's really looking at you factor in the tail risk and improving the risk profile of the balance sheet as long as what you're getting for it in exchange. And we need to be a fair price in exchange. Thomas GallagherAnalyst at Evercore01:05:16Got you. Thank you. Operator01:05:19Thank you very much. I'd now like to hand back to Kevin Hogan for any further remarks. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial01:05:26Yes. Thanks. Look, I just want to take a moment here to thank our people and our partners for being a source of strength for our customers, supporting them in both good times and bad. What we do matters and moments of uncertainty highlight the importance of how we help people take action in their financial lives. Thanks for your questions. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial01:05:45Thanks for joining us today and have a good day. Operator01:05:48As we conclude today's call, we'd like to thank everyone for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesIsil MuderrisogluHead of Investor & Rating Agency RelationsKevin HoganDirector, President & CEOElias HabayebExecutive VP & CFOAnalystsDaniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD CowenElyse GreenspanManaging Director at Wells Fargo SecuritiesJoel HurwitzLead Analyst at Dowling & PartnersSuneet KamathSenior Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company IncCave MontazeriAnalyst at Deutsche BankAlex ScottEquity Research Analyst at BarclaysJimmy BhullarEquity Research Analyst at JP MorganThomas GallagherAnalyst at EvercorePowered by Key Takeaways CorBridge reported Q1 operating earnings per share of $1.16 with an 11.8% ROE and returned $454 million to shareholders, achieving a 70% payout ratio, while maintaining $2.4 billion of holding company liquidity in a high-quality investment portfolio. Premiums and deposits reached $9.3 billion in Q1, fueled by strong demand in Individual Retirement ($4.7 billion) including $260 million of RILA sales, robust Group Retirement deposits, record Life Insurance sales and a 48% increase in GIC reserves in Institutional Markets. The company enhanced capital efficiency via active balance-sheet optimization, ceding $2 billion of reserves to its affiliated Bermudan reinsurer and pursuing disciplined asset-liability management to bolster financial strength. A voluntary early-retirement program and ongoing digitization initiatives aim to reduce expenses, reshape the workforce and invest in new data, digital and automated underwriting capabilities to improve operating leverage. CorBridge has reduced its share count by over 10% in the last year, targeting long-term 10%–15% EPS growth, a 12%–14% ROE range and a sustainable 60%–65% payout ratio to deliver balanced capital management and shareholder returns. A.I. generated. 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The company operates through Individual Retirement, Group Retirement, Life Insurance, and Institutional Markets segments. The Individual Retirement segment provides fixed annuities, fixed index annuities, variable annuities, and retail mutual funds. The Group Retirement segment offers record-keeping services, plan administration and compliance services, and financial planning and advisory solutions to employer-defined contribution plans and their participants, as well as proprietary and non-proprietary annuities, advisory services, and brokerage products. The Life Insurance segment offers term life and universal life insurance in the United States, as well as issues individual life, whole life, and group life insurance in the United Kingdom; and distributes medical insurance in Ireland. The Institutional Markets segment provides stable value wraps, structured settlement and pension risk transfer annuities, corporate and bank owned life insurance, private placement variable universal life and annuities products, and guaranteed investment contracts. The company was formerly known as SAFG Retirement Services, Inc. Corebridge Financial, Inc. was incorporated in 1998 and is headquartered in Houston, Texas. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, the Corbridge Financial Inc. First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call will begin shortly with your host, Michelle Mudarisoglu. We appreciate your patience as we prepare your session today. During the call, we encourage participants to raise any questions they may have. Good morning, all, and thank you for joining us for the Corbridge Financial Inc. Operator00:02:46First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. My name is Carly, and I'll be coordinating the call today. I'd now like to hand over to our host, Michelle Mudrysu. Floor is yours. Isil MuderrisogluHead of Investor & Rating Agency Relations at Corebridge Financial00:03:04Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Corbridge Financial's earnings update for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. Joining me on the call are Kevin Hogan, President and Chief Executive Officer and Elias Habayeb, Chief Financial Officer. We will begin with prepared remarks by Kevin and Elias, and then we will take your questions. Today's comments may contain forward looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. These statements are not guarantees of future performance or events and are based upon management's current expectations and assumptions. Isil MuderrisogluHead of Investor & Rating Agency Relations at Corebridge Financial00:03:41CorBridge's filings with the SEC provide details on important factors that may cause actual results or events to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward looking statements. Except as required by the applicable securities laws, CorBridge is under no obligation to update any forward looking statements if circumstances or management's estimates or opinions should change and you are cautioned to not place undue reliance on any forward looking statements. Additionally, today's remarks may refer to non GAAP financial measures. The reconciliation of such measures to the most comparable GAAP figures is included in our earnings release, financial supplement and earnings presentation, all of which are available on our website at investors.corbridgefinancial.com. With that, I would like to now turn the call over to Kevin and Elias for their prepared remarks. Isil MuderrisogluHead of Investor & Rating Agency Relations at Corebridge Financial00:04:36Kevin? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:04:37Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining. The macroeconomic uncertainty and heightened volatility of these past few months remind us that we live in a complex, ever changing world. At times like this, when conditions are uncertain, the mission of CorBridge to proudly partner with individuals, financial professionals and institutions to make it possible for more people to take action in their financial lives becomes more relevant than ever. Over 11,000 Americans are turning 65 every day, and the long term impact of a market downturn can be significant for retirees and those nearing retirement. Our company stands ready to support our customers in times like these, and our strength and stability have enabled us to serve through many periods of volatility and uncertainty. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:05:32Turning to first quarter results on Slide three. We are pleased to report another strong quarter that reflects the continued benefits of our diversified business model, strong balance sheet and disciplined execution. CorBridge reported operating earnings per share of $1.16 and ROE of 11.8%. We also returned $454,000,000 to shareholders delivering a payout ratio of 70%. Our balance sheet remains resilient with holding company liquidity of $2,400,000,000 in a high quality general account investment portfolio conservatively positioned with an average rating of single A. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:06:16Central to our success are four strategic pillars that drive EPS growth and long term value creation: organic growth, balance sheet optimization, expense efficiencies and active capital management. I will review the results of the quarter in the context of each. First, organic growth, where the breadth and diversity of our product portfolio and distribution platform are meaningful differentiators. CorBridge had a very good start to the year, delivering robust premiums and deposits of $9,300,000,000 although lower in total than last year's exceptionally strong level. We are seeing sustained customer demand driven by an aging U. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:07:00S. Population and an advisor community that recognizes the value of annuities. In support of our growth, we are investing in digital capabilities, expanding our product offerings and deepening relationships with our distribution partners while also developing new channels. In Individual Retirement, we continue to benefit from favorable market and demographic conditions, producing premiums and deposits of $4,700,000,000 We have consistently maintained a top tier market position over the last ten years as our broad product suite serves a wide range of retirement needs. We are also building momentum following the successful introduction of our Vila product in October 2024, delivering over $260,000,000 of sales in the first quarter. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:07:52We are now actively selling through our largest distribution partners and after launching in California last month are admitted in all but two states. Looking forward, we are well positioned in the fast growing RILA market given our strong product, broad reach and long tenured relationships. Group Retirement continues to deliver steady periodic in plan deposits driven by increased advisor focus and sustained client demand. Our employee advisor force is growing, and the investments we are making in advisor productivity are beginning to yield results, with in plan average enrollments up 9% and in plan average deposits up 10%. Additionally, I am pleased to note that we added our Ryla product to the out of plan offering, delivering approximately $50,000,000 of sales in the first quarter. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:08:47We also continued to grow our advisory and brokerage business with 5% AUMA growth year over year, even with lower equity market performance in 2025. Life Insurance delivered another quarter of attractive performance, including both strong sales and mortality results better than expectations. This business continues to perform well supported by our strong product positioning, digital and automated underwriting capabilities and expanding distribution. With nearly $1,000,000,000,000 of gross in force, this business remains a mainstay for Corbridge, providing stability during periods of market volatility. Institutional Markets has continued to focus on growing our GIC program with discipline, and I am pleased to say that we have been successful with GICT reserves increasing 48% year over year. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:09:44We also continue to capture attractive opportunities in pension risk transfer with a promising pipeline of transactions developing over the rest of the year. Across CoreBridge, we are proud of the new business we are generating, the discipline we have maintained and the momentum we are building. We remain focused on targeting profitable business with double digit IRRs even as conditions evolve sometimes rapidly. We have consistently demonstrated the ability to pivot across product and channel, dialing up or down to focus our efforts where risk adjusted returns are the most attractive and customer needs the greatest. Turning to the second strategic pillar, optimizing our balance sheet, we have also made meaningful progress. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:10:33Through proactive asset liability management and disciplined risk oversight, we are enhancing our financial strength while positioning CoreBridge for long term success. Bermuda continues to be an important part of our capital management strategy. And in the first quarter, we ceded approximately $2,000,000,000 in reserves to our affiliated reinsurer. We also remain active in exploring opportunities across our company to enhance capital efficiency and increase shareholder value. Moving to the third strategic pillar, we continue to drive operating efficiency and improve operating leverage. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:11:13These efforts help support disciplined growth and financial flexibility. As we continue to transform CoreBridge, we recently conducted a voluntary early retirement program for eligible colleagues in The U. S. Through this program, we expect to further reduce our expense base and at the same time, create capacity to invest in new skills and capabilities and reshape our workforce. We are also pursuing opportunities to enhance efficiency as we further digitize end to end processes that support our insurance operations. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:11:48Additionally, we continue to make investments to further modernize our finance and actuarial capabilities. Turning to the fourth strategic pillar. We are committed to providing an attractive and growing return to our shareholders in a thoughtful and balanced manner while maintaining the flexibility to pursue growth and innovation. Over the last twelve months, through our share repurchase program, we have reduced share count by over 10%. Together, these four strategic pillars are helping us build a stronger, more agile company, and we are well positioned to generate sustainable growth and create long term value for shareholders. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:12:31Moving to our financial targets, I am pleased to note that CorBridge continues to deliver. Our expectation is for annual run rate EPS to increase on average in the range of 10% to 15% over the long term. Elias will provide more perspective on our outlook as well as an update on our market sensitivities. Corporidge achieved a run rate ROE of 12.3% in the first quarter and we remain committed to our 12% to 14% annual target. The Life Fleet RBC ratio remains above target even with recent market volatility. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:13:11We also delivered a 70% payout ratio and are maintaining our target of 60% to 65%. Moving to Slide five. Since 2017, regardless of market cycle, Corbridge has been able to significantly grow our business while maintaining a strong balance sheet and consistent cash generation. To put that in numbers, over the last eight years, we have increased sales by over 50%. At the same time, our Life Fleet RBC ratio has consistently exceeded target and our insurance companies have generated on average over $2,100,000,000 in cash annually. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:13:53These outcomes collectively demonstrate the CoreBridge value proposition. We are well positioned across a range of macro environments to continue creating shareholder value and to continue delivering for our customers. And now I will hand the call over to Elias. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:14:12Thank you, Kevin. I will begin my comments today on Slide six. CorBridge reported first quarter adjusted pretax operating income of $810,000,000 or operating earnings per share of $1.16 a 5% increase year over year on a per share basis. Our operating EPS included two notable items this quarter, resulting in a favorable impact of $01 Details can be found in our earnings presentation. Annualized alternative investment returns were $06 short of our long term expectations, largely due to real estate equity returns. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:14:57Adjusting for notable items and alternative investment returns, we delivered run rate operating EPS of $1.21 and adjusted ROE of 12.3%. Moving to Slide seven. Core sources of income, excluding notable items and the sale of our International Life business, grew by 1% year over year, driven by higher fee income and improved underwriting margin. Base spread income declined by 3% over the same period. This was driven by profitable growth offset by the earn in of Fed rate actions from the second half of twenty twenty four and dynamics in group retirement as its earnings transition from spread to fee income. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:15:48Sequentially, base spread income increased by 3%. This change was mainly driven by profitable growth that outweighed the earn in of Fed rate actions, which was in line with our prior guidance. In total, the underlying fundamentals behind base spread income continued to be bolstered by 8% growth in the general account and attractive new money yields, which exceeded roll off yields in the portfolio by approximately 100 basis points. Additionally, fee income improved by 1% year over year largely as a result of higher account values along with our growing advisory and brokerage business. Underwriting margin improved by 12% year over year driven by more favorable mortality experience. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:16:42Pivoting to expenses, first quarter general operating expenses for our insurance businesses and parent company were 5% higher year over year after excluding the sale of our International Life business. This largely reflects savings from corporate forward offset by costs attributable to business growth as well as higher compensation and benefit expenses. Our first quarter results reflect both planned investments in talent to support growth and timing of our annual performance related equity grants. Adding to Kevin's earlier comments about the voluntary early retirement program, we currently estimate this will have a onetime cost of $85,000,000 As this program demonstrates, Corporate remains disciplined in our approach to expense management and is committed to managing costs thoughtfully while supporting key strategic initiatives and business priorities. Next, I will briefly review a few highlights from each of our businesses. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:17:54Details on the four segments can be found in our earnings presentation. As a reminder, results exclude the impact of notable items, variable investment income and the sale of our International Life business. While adjusted pretax operating income for Individual retirement declined by 10% year over year, the fundamentals for this business remain strong and the market conditions attractive. As I previously shared, spread income was impacted by two factors we see as short term in nature: Fed rate actions and our hedging activities to maintain alignment between assets and liabilities. Consistent with prior guidance, these items collectively reduced base spread income by approximately $50,000,000 for the quarter. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:18:49In addition, results were impacted by higher DAC and commissions related to business growth, also consistent with our prior guidance. For the general account, Individual Retirement generated net inflows of $1,100,000,000 demonstrating the strength of our asset origination capabilities, product portfolio and distribution network supported by ongoing strong customer demand. Group Retirement delivered another steady quarter with core earnings of $167,000,000 Of note, this quarter's base spread income benefited from opportunistic asset repositioning efforts. Given the ongoing shift in our customer base and resulting net outflows, we expect to see continuation of the transition from spread to fee based income over time. As a result, net outflows were $1,800,000,000 which is consistent with our prior guidance and in line with levels observed in the first half of twenty twenty four. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:20:03We continue to be excited about the opportunities in this space, especially as customers seek solutions to position their portfolios for retirement. And as such, we remain focused on efforts to grow the advisory and brokerage business. Life insurance continues to be a strong performer. Adjusted pretax operating income increased by 23% year over year, primarily driven by more favorable mortality experience. In institutional markets, adjusted pretax operating income was virtually flat year over year. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:20:43That said, total sources of income grew by 33% supported by robust reserve growth of 17% over the same period. As a reminder, earnings from this segment may reflect some quarterly volatility, but we expect earnings to increase over time as reserves grow. Overall, Corbridge continues to benefit from our diversified and complementary portfolio of market leading businesses, which remains a key component of our shareholder value proposition. Moving to Slide eight, where I will focus on three key areas of capital, liquidity and the balance sheet. Excluding $1,000,000,000 to cover the April 2025 debt maturity, CorBridge ended the quarter with $1,400,000,000 of cash on hand at the holding company, supported by $600,000,000 of distributions from our U. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:21:48S. Insurance companies in this quarter. This level exceeds the holding company's needs for the next twelve months, and I will note that we have no material debt maturities until 2027. Our insurance companies have a strong liquidity profile driven by positive operating cash flows, liquid invested assets and contingent liquidity sources, all of which help provide ample flexibility to respond to a range of macro environments. Our insurance companies also remain well capitalized with their respective capital ratios exceeding target. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:22:31CorBridge continues to actively manage capital in a disciplined and forward looking manner, maintaining a sufficient buffer to withstand market volatility and capture attractive growth opportunities. This active management includes our hedging programs, which continue to perform as expected. These programs help safeguard statutory capital, support our ability to deliver consistent cash flows and protect long term value for shareholders. Further, they are important to our balance sheet management strategy and are designed to help protect it against market movements, including during periods of volatility like we're currently experiencing. Given the uncertain economic landscape and growing concerns about a recession, we understand there's heightened focus on insurers' investment portfolios. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:23:31So let me pause here and offer a few highlights on our $223,000,000,000 investment portfolio. First and foremost, our portfolio is diversified across asset class, sector, geography and issuer, making it less vulnerable to systemic risk, and it's proven to be resilient across past credit cycles. Approximately 97% is invested in fixed income and short term investments, the bulk of which consists of liquid high quality bonds. 95% of our fixed maturities are rated investment grade. This portfolio reflects actions taken over the past few years to improve credit quality and return on capital. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:24:20As our investment strategy is liability driven, our credit portfolio is a mix of public, private and structured products, put together with the goal of maximizing risk adjusted returns while maintaining tight alignment between our assets and liabilities. For public credit, we maintain a high quality bias with significant exposure to investment grade corporate bonds that provide liquidity and regulatory capital efficiency. Private credit allocations, the vast majority of which are traditional investment grade corporate private placements, benefits from illiquidity premiums and contain negotiated protective financial covenants. Corbridge believes this asset class will generally perform better during a downturn due to the protections built into the transactions. And structured products provide us with exposures to diversified collateral. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:25:22Approximately 95% is comprised of the more senior tranches with significant credit enhancements. Lastly, commercial mortgage loans are performing as expected and we have maintained our conservative reserving approach. I will now wrap up with our latest sensitivities. We previously commented on the fourth quarter twenty twenty four earnings call that 2025 EPS growth would be below our long term expectations of 10% to 15% due to the drag from the earn in of Fed rate actions. At that time, we anticipated EPS in 2025 would grow by mid single digits from the 2024 base of $4.99 These projections assume annual equity market returns of 8%, alternatives improving over the course of the year to achieve our 8% to 9% target return by the end of 2025 and fifty basis points of Fed rate cuts in 2025. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:26:37Given recent increased volatility, we are providing updated sensitivities to equity markets and interest rates. The net impact from an immediate 10% change in the S and P 500 Index on the combination of fee income and advisory fee expense is approximately $85,000,000 over the first twelve months. Further, each 25 basis points move in SOFR impacts base portfolio income by approximately two basis points. This sulfur rate sensitivity is lower than our prior guidance due to a reduction in net floating rate exposures over the past two quarters. Lastly, given the lack of deal activity because of current market uncertainty, we expect alternative investments returns to fall short of our long term return expectations of 8% to 9% in 2025. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:27:40For the second quarter, we expect alternative investment returns will be approximately half the level in the first quarter based on the information available to us at this time. In conclusion, our proactive balance sheet management, supported by strong reserving practices and risk controls, has enabled Corbridge to pursue profitable growth across multiple cycles while delivering on financial and capital management goals. Corbridge will remain disciplined in managing our financial flexibility, balancing prudence with the agility to invest in the future. Now I will turn the call back to Isha. Isil MuderrisogluHead of Investor & Rating Agency Relations at Corebridge Financial00:28:24Thank you, Elias. As a reminder, please limit yourselves to one question and one follow-up. Operator, we are now ready to begin the Q and A portion of the call. Operator00:28:36Thank you. We'd now like to open the lines for Q Our first question comes from Dan Bergmann of Cowen. Dan, your line is now open. Daniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD Cowen00:28:54Thanks. Good morning. Daniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD Cowen00:28:57Your base yield took a nice step up quarter over quarter, particularly in the Group Retirement segment. I know you mentioned some actions you took to reposition the portfolio this quarter. I wanted to see if you could just give a little more detail around those actions. And given you previously talked about some opportunities to optimize the asset portfolio, I guess what inning are you in for that process? And as we look ahead, how should we think about the ability for you to take further steps to improve yields in the coming quarters? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:29:21Yes. Thanks, Dan. Appreciate the question. Look, I'll start and then I'll pass over to Elias. As you noted, the sequential increase in the Group Retirement based spreads and spread income kind of as in the case of individual retirement reflects some opportunistic asset repositioning, which is really part of our active our regular active portfolio management strategy that Elias will touch on in a bit. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:29:49But I think what's important to take away is that we don't expect a change in the trend over time. We see this business transitioning from spread to a fee based business. Fee income is already the predominant source of revenues for that business. There are going to be some variances quarter to quarter driven by sort of one time items and some seasonality related to where we credit interest. But we think this is a positive trend over time from spread to fee income. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:30:20Now in terms of the yield questions, I'll pass that over to Elias. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:30:23Hey, thanks, Kevin. And hey, Dan, if you look at our track record, we've taken advantage opportunistically from time to time where we had opportunities to reposition assets and pick up yields and improve return on capital. And when looking at the first quarter, what we did in Group Retirement, we saw a similar opportunity and we did to some extent also on the individual retirement space take advantage of it. And we'll continue to do that whenever the opportunity arises and when it and when within our risk parameters. And if you look at the what we did in '22, '20 '3, '20 '4 also against the in force and individual retirement, this is kind of no different than the stuff we've done previously. Daniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD Cowen00:31:12Got it. That's really helpful. Thank you. Daniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD Cowen00:31:15And then maybe just a little bit of Daniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD Cowen00:31:16a broad one. But given the recent market volatility, just wanted to see if you could provide an update on what you're seeing in the market for your various individual retirement products. I guess how is industry demand holding up amidst the volatility? And how are you finding the competitive environment across your different product areas? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:31:32Yes, sure. Thanks. Look, the demand for annuities remains robust. The belly of the yield curve remains supportive. Credit spreads, I think are also relevant there. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:31:47And above all, the long term macro drivers are really very powerful trends, the aging of the population, the need for people to look after their own retirements and a supportive advisor community. And based on our experience market uncertainty actually further increases the demand for our products sometimes in the income benefits and sometimes in the accumulation areas. Of our various products fixed annuities are the most sort of immediately sensitive. And in the first the fourth quarter and the first quarter there were a few periods of lower sales in the face of some of the market changes. And while we maintained our usual pricing discipline. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:32:30But I wouldn't read too much into that. We see very strong demand continuing for the index product in particular. Fixed annuity conditions remain very attractive. And we're off to a great start with our Ryla product. We continue to see the way I define rationality of pricing and competition is whether or not we're able to meet our margins on new business and we continue to see attractive new business margins. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:33:04Now I would point out second quarter of last year was kind of an exceptional period where everything came together. And I wouldn't expect that type of quarter to necessarily repeat. But overall, the conditions are very attractive and we're confident in growing our individual retirement overall general accounts and spread income over time. Daniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD Cowen00:33:31Got it. Super helpful. Thank you. Operator00:33:36Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Elyse Greenspan of Wells Fargo. Elyse, your line is now open. Elyse GreenspanManaging Director at Wells Fargo Securities00:33:44Hi, thanks. You guys said this quarter, which I know you typically say in calls, just that you guys are continuing to explore opportunities across the company to enhance capital efficiency. Can you just expand on I guess what's top of mind on that list today? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:34:05Yes. So Elyse, thanks for the question. Look, we're always looking for opportunities increase our efficiency, increase shareholder value and optimize our portfolio. We continue to expand our Bermuda strategy, which is an important part of our capital management toolkit. And we added an additional $2,000,000,000 of reserves this quarter. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:34:31So we've ceded $14,000,000,000 with the new strategy to date. And we are early in the stages of our Bermuda strategy. We see further opportunities for both in force and new business sessions. In addition to that, obviously external reinsurance transactions are something that we evaluate from time to time. And any transaction we've consistently said must be accretive on a risk adjusted basis. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:35:00And so we continue to explore those opportunities. We're always open to considering ways to increase shareholder value and we'll be happy to share anything new at an appropriate time. Elyse GreenspanManaging Director at Wells Fargo Securities00:35:16Thanks. And then my second question, you guys the opening commentary you're pointing to, I think you said a promising pipeline of PRT deals over the rest of the year. I know some peers have just pointed to volatility perhaps impacting deal flow in that business this year. Can you just kind of talk to what you're seeing and how you expect things to transpire over the rest of the year? Thank you. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:35:43Yes. Thanks, Elyse. Look, we continue to see very robust opportunities for pension risk transfer. For quite some time, we've been focused on full plan terminations, which are transactions generally in the region of $500,000,000 to $1,000,000,000 We carefully underwrite these. They're essentially like little mini M and A transactions where we have to carefully evaluate both liabilities and asset strategies. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:36:13Pension plans continue to be well funded. Generally, these transactions result from committed corporate risk management strategies. They like M and A transactions are not predictable. We don't necessarily expect them to land regularly quarter by quarter. But the pipeline both in The U. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:36:33S. And also in The UK continues to be as strong as we've seen it. And we don't necessarily see any indications that volatility is going to have significant impact on timing or pursuit of these transactions. Operator00:36:56Thank you very much. Next question comes from Joel Hurwitz of Dowling and Partners. Joel, your line is now open. Joel HurwitzLead Analyst at Dowling & Partners00:37:05Hey, good morning. First, a couple on expenses. Expenses in individual retirement and corporate were up from where you've been running. How much would you attribute that to seasonality? Then on the voluntary separation, any expectation for expense savings running through operating earnings? Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:37:25Hey, Joel, it's Elias. So with this is a component of what you're seeing in individual retirement and the parent and in total across the board is seasonality. Typically, first quarter is higher tied to the rule of 65, which is people based on age and years of service. If they meet the rule of 65, equity grants are expensed upfront versus over three years. And this year, we had a higher dollar amount of equity grants meeting the Rule of 65. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:38:00So that's a component of it. And the second component is our payroll taxes and four zero one matches are kind of front loaded. And as you progress in the year, those will come down. So there's definitely seasonality there. I would say about 50% of the increase in IR is tied to that on that spot. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:38:22With respect to early retirement program, that's kind of one of the initiatives we are undertaking to continue to modernize our organization and improve our operating leverage. The expectation is a portion of the savings out of the early retirement program will drop to the bottom line and a portion we're going to use to fund investments in new capabilities for the next leg of our journey. We do expect that to benefit our expense run rate. But given the timing of when people depart, it will not fully earn into the run rate till the beginning of twenty twenty six. Joel HurwitzLead Analyst at Dowling & Partners00:39:03Okay. Very helpful. And then just a second one. In group, you've been talking about growing your out of plan business in the advisory and brokerage business. Can you just provide an update on the organic growth that you're seeing there? Joel HurwitzLead Analyst at Dowling & Partners00:39:16And then what sort of traction your advisers are gaining? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:39:20Yes. Thanks. Appreciate the question, Joel. I mean Group Retirement as you pointed out and as I mentioned is not solely a spread business. And we're seeing very attractive opportunities in the out of plan and the advisory and brokerage space. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:39:40Overall, our advisor force is growing And the advisors support both the in plan and the out of plan strategies with in plan having advisory options as well. Our advisory and brokerage assets are now $16,000,000,000 They're up 5% year over year. And if you look at the combination of the out of plan plus the advisory and brokerage assets, it's a significant earnings base at $99,000,000,000 We're seeing we've been investing in advisor productivity. And as per my prepared remarks, we're seeing some improvements in the productivity in terms of enrollments and deposits. And maybe the most important numbers of all is of our 1,900,000 customers in this business, 1,600,000 of them are still implant only customers. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:40:34And our advisers are building relationships with them in order to prepare for that important moment of household asset consolidation. And so we're in the early stages of the change in the trend from a spread to a fee based business, but the signs are very positive across the board. Joel HurwitzLead Analyst at Dowling & Partners00:40:58Okay. Thank you. Operator00:41:01Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Suneet Kamath of Jefferies. Suneet, your line is now open. Suneet KamathSenior Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company Inc00:41:14Great. Thank you. So you had guided to elevated surrenders in Individual Retirement, I think, in 1Q and then 3Q and 4Q. It didn't seem like we saw a big change here in 1Q. Is that because the surrenders will roll off more in the latter half of the year? Suneet KamathSenior Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company Inc00:41:31And then do you have a sense of what rolled off? Like what were you able to retain through other products? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:41:41Yes. Thanks, Suneet. Good morning. Yes. What we said last quarter, we do expect higher levels of fixed annuity and indexed annuity volumes to be exiting their surrender charge period. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:41:52And that is in particular in the second half of this year. And we see this as kind of natural given the significant growth in the whole portfolio over the last few years, but in particular since 2022 when the rate environment really started change. And so this increase in volumes exiting surrender charge periods, it's not going to be consistent quarter to quarter. It really reflects where large volumes of product were sold in the past. On the other hand, in our experience surrender rates reflect really where yields and credit spreads are at a given time. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:42:32And over the last few cycles, we haven't seen anything that's outside of our expectations along those lines. And we've seen generally that when surrender rates are higher, usually the conditions for new business are also very attractive, which is important as really what we're focused on is the long term growth of our general account net of any surrenders. So it's not necessarily I mean, we look at options as to how we may preserve surrenders, but more importantly, we look at new business pricing and new business pricing is very attractive. And so irrespective of the surrender behaviors and activity, we expect that the general account and spread income will continue to grow over time. And the environment continues to be very robust for our entire range of individual retirement products index annuities, fixed annuities and most recently our RILA which is off to a great start. Suneet KamathSenior Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company Inc00:43:37Got it. That's helpful. Thanks. And then on Slide five, I thought that picture of cash generation over time was pretty impressive. But if I look at the data, it looks like it's been relatively flattish at that kind of $2,000,000,000 ish level. Suneet KamathSenior Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company Inc00:43:51And I think on the last call you talked about increasing it by 10%. So I just want to understand what's different now that allows you to grow it? And should we think about that 10% as really just a bump up? Or is that more of a on an annual basis, you want to increase that by 10%? Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:44:09Suneet, it's Elias. So if you look back historically, there was a different kind of strategy at the time and the historical numbers are a bit normalized. And you could find that in the S-one in our public filings. Let's talk now about the strategy since we go public we've gone public. Our strategy has been to grow earnings and increase cash generation to deliver on the 60% to 65% payout ratio. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:44:38Our target for this year is to grow the insurance company dividends by 5% to 10% and we believe we're on track to delivering it. And sitting here today despite the market volatility, we remain confident in our expectation to deliver the increased 5% to 10% in dividends from the insurance companies and deliver on our payout ratio. We'd expect that to continue to grow over time as we grow the profitability of the business. Suneet KamathSenior Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company Inc00:45:10Okay. That's helpful. Thanks. Operator00:45:15Thank you very much. Our next question comes from K. V. Montesire with Deutsche Bank. K. Operator00:45:22V. Your line is now open. Cave MontazeriAnalyst at Deutsche Bank00:45:24Good morning. My first question is on your guidance for base spread income. So you've reduced your sensitivity to short term interest rates. And I think in your prepared remarks, you mentioned that it was mainly due to reducing your exposure to floating rates. So I guess I'm wondering, A, is that the right answer? Cave MontazeriAnalyst at Deutsche Bank00:45:45And then two, how are you thinking about your hedging philosophy and how maybe that could impact your sensitivity going forward? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:45:55Yes. Thanks, KV. Good morning. Look, maybe I'll unpack the IR spread income story a little bit for you. So as we just talked about, right, the first quarter spreads and spread income as in the case of Group Retirement did benefit from some asset repositioning, which helped to offset the impact that we had guided to relative to the fourth quarter Fed rate actions and how they affected in particular sulfur. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:46:29And looking ahead, we actually continue to expect that base spread income will grow over time even if there is a little bit of marginal spread compression. We provided the sulfur cut sensitivity and just remind you that those are generally short term in impact. And we have lowered our sensitivity since the fourth quarter from the three bps to the two bps. But really the overriding driver of spread income is ultimately business operations. And there are very powerful drivers on the macro side that I'm not going to necessarily repeat. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:47:04In current new business pricing is at or above our medium term return expectations. The investment environment is good. Our new money rates are still 100 basis points over the roll off. And so it's not going to be a straight line. There'll be a little variability quarter to quarter. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:47:23But the fundamental trend is that the general account we're growing the general account reserves over time and base spread income will grow over time irrespective of underlying spread dynamics, which will be an important contributor to our growth targets. I'll hand it over to Elias to talk a little bit about the hedging question. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:47:43Yes. And listen, from the hedging question, we've talked in the past like one of the aspects of how we manage the balance sheet is the ALM profile of the balance sheet, and our investment strategy is liability driven. So we adjust the asset side to what we see on the liability side. And what we have done is reduced our net floating rate exposure. We've held floaters in the portfolio for two reasons. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:48:11One, we find them as an attractive asset class and on a relative value basis. At times, they've offered better returns than to fixed rate bonds. And separately, we've used them as a tool to manage the ALM profile of the balance sheet. So when rates increased in 2022 and liability durations came in significantly, we used in addition to derivatives, we used an increased allocation to floaters to shorten the duration of the asset. So and we will continue to manage it within that discipline. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:48:45And as a result of what's played out in our portfolio, we've reduced the floating rate exposure. So if you recall, at the September, when we first talked about it, we said about 8% of the investment portfolio was in a net floating rate position. That's down to about 5% as of the March from it. And that's been the driver behind why the sensitivity has improved since then. And that's also kind of consistent to what we hinted at back at the third quarter earnings call when we gave the initial sensitivity that we expected that sensitivity to decline over time. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:49:21So it's playing out kind of consistent with what we expected. And just to echo Kevin's comments, our guidance on spread income in Individual Retirement is we expect it to grow over time. The business dynamics is great. If you look at the new money yields relative to what's rolling off, and I quoted it in my script, this quarter we had 100 basis point differential that's kind of accretive. And if you look at what happened to spread income in the quarter, while the earning of the 100 basis points was consistent with the prior guidance we gave you, it's where we were able to mitigate it with growth in the business side as well as some asset repositioning to take advantage of opportunities to improve returns in the investment portfolio within our risk and capital parameters. Cave MontazeriAnalyst at Deutsche Bank00:50:13Thank you. That's very helpful. Second pivot to technology. Just wondering if you can get an update on Simply Now and some of the other new tech initiatives you have going on. I think in the past, you've mentioned, at least for life insurance, 80% of new policies were auto decision. Cave MontazeriAnalyst at Deutsche Bank00:50:32Just wondering if you can expand that maybe what you're seeing in other segments and how you're using digital capabilities to further improve your process not just on the cost side, but also to drive top line growth. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:50:46Yes. Thanks, KZ. Look, we're really proud of our life insurance business and we have been investing in that business over a number of years, starting with our data strategy and then ultimately building into our digital capabilities and automated underwriting, which is ultimately what's driving I think a lot of the success there. The work we've done also in repositioning our product strategy is kind of hand in glove with that and focusing on products that are less interest rate sensitive and also maybe a little bit less pricing sensitive. And we're pleased with the strong position that we have there. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:51:36Elias talked about the fact that after our early voluntary early retirement program, I mean, part of those savings will drop to the bottom line, but part of those are being reinvested in the business. Important investments that we're making include further investments in our data and digital and automation strategies. We're starting to see some of the benefits of those in our Retirement Services business. You'll see some of that in the advisor efficiency numbers that I quoted in my prepared remarks. And then we're also adopting a strategy of enhancing our capabilities in our finance and actuarial and our other sort of administrative support activities. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:52:20And so the benefits of the data, digital and automation strategies, We're in the early stages of exploring tools like advanced practices and artificial intelligence, but that's something that is on our path. And we do see it as an important opportunity to increase our scalability and our operating efficiency and operating leverage over time. Cave MontazeriAnalyst at Deutsche Bank00:52:46Thank you. Operator00:52:51Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Alex Scott of Barclays. Alex, your line is now open. Alex ScottEquity Research Analyst at Barclays00:52:59Hey, good Alex ScottEquity Research Analyst at Barclays00:53:00morning. The first one I had for you is on the relationship with Nippon. I think the last time you were asked on one of these calls about the relationship you hadn't gotten through some of the regulatory approvals and so forth. So it's hard to talk more about it. And I was interested if you had any more color on just the ways that your two firms may work together in partnership. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:53:22Yes. Thanks Alex. Appreciate the question. Look, we're very excited about our relationship with Nippon Life. They've joined the board. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:53:31They're already contributing there. We're both large diverse companies that we operate in very different markets and we have a lot that we can learn from each other. We're taking a structured approach to looking at what are the various areas in which we may be able to generate some mutually beneficial commercial activities. And we're working our way through evaluating those opportunities. And I'm sure that both companies will be excited to come forward when we have something significant that we've identified and that we're in a position to announce. Alex ScottEquity Research Analyst at Barclays00:54:12Got it. That's helpful. Second one I have for you is just going to the asset portfolio. And I know you mentioned some in your opening remarks. I just wanted to ask about if there's anything you could provide that would help frame for us how you'd expect the portfolio to perform in different types of scenarios if we were to get some kind of credit event. Alex ScottEquity Research Analyst at Barclays00:54:39Reason I ask is just there is a little bit more invested asset leverage just given you're more of a fixed annuity company. And this between now and the next time you have an earnings call, the environment could potentially change more significantly. So I just wanted to see if we could get a feel for how you expect that to perform. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:54:58Yes. Thanks, Alex. Look, I'll hand over to Elias in a minute here. But I'll just start off with, look, we're very comfortable with our overall asset portfolio and our credit exposure. And it reflects both years of actions to improve the quality, but also the fact that we very much focus on an asset strategy to support our liability portfolio. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial00:55:25And I'll let Elias go through the characteristics of the portfolio that put us in this position where we're comfortable with the exposure. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:55:35Hey, Alex. From a credit perspective, credit risk is like one of the top risks we proactively manage in our portfolio. And part of our strategy in addition to be liability driven is to maintain diversification, so we don't have concentration risk and maintain a high quality portfolio. And right now, 95% of the book is investment grade and we've migrated the average credit rating of the fixed maturities to a single A over the last couple of years. And we have a high allocation to liquid assets. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:56:12So we do subject the portfolio to various forms of sensitivities and stress testing and that kind of helps inform us on decisions we take. We feel comfortable from a credit loss perspective. On the portfolio, our biggest allocation is to public credits. On the private side, the largest allocation is to traditional investment grade private placements, which is not a new asset class for the insurance companies and not for us. And those come with strong financial covenants that gives us protections if there's stress. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:56:50In addition, on structured products, we tend to be at the top end of or the higher end of the capital structure, which gives us significant enhancements. And we're proactive. If we start seeing things that are going sideways, we'll take action, exit positions to cut our losses before things play out. And we do carry a pretty meaningful allowance for loan losses on the loan side, so we feel comfortable with it. So from the loss perspective, we feel comfortable. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:57:24There's always risk on rating downgrades, but again, we've got tools available to us to mitigate that impact. And finally, kind of remember, we're in a very we have a strong balance sheet. Our RBC at the end of the year was $426,000,000 You combine the balance sheet with the high credit quality portfolio with diversification and conservative reserving on the portfolio and we kind of feel comfortable with where we are right now. Alex ScottEquity Research Analyst at Barclays00:57:55That's really helpful. Thank you. Operator00:57:59Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Jimmy Bhullar of JPMorgan. Jimmy, your line is now open. Jimmy, can we start to check your lines locally muted? Jimmy BhullarEquity Research Analyst at JP Morgan00:58:17Hi. My questions were actually answered and I pressed star one, but I guess it didn't go through. Maybe I'll ask one on just your RBC ratio. It's still above 400%, but I wanted to see if you saw some decline in the directionally at least in the quarter given the moves in the market and just moves in interest rates as well. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:58:41Hey, Jimmy, it's Elias. I'm happy to answer. So there is some sensitivity to rates and equity markets from an RBC perspective. It's different than the sensitivities on GAAP operating income because on an RBC basis, you've got to think through the impact available as well as required capital. But given the diversification in our balance sheet as well as the hedging programs we have in place, that impact is limited. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial00:59:12And you've got the proof points with Slide five, if you go back, because some of those were during periods of volatility in the market and RBC was maintained above 400. The other thing I would say around market volatility and the impact of RBC, that's kind of temporary and short term. And as markets reverse, the impact reverses as well with it. So to us, we look at that more as a temporary impact for us and it's the impact is limited given the hedging and the diversification. Credit to us is more meaningful from an RBC perspective, and that's what we try to proactively manage too. Jimmy BhullarEquity Research Analyst at JP Morgan01:00:00Okay. And then I think Kevin in his remarks and you as well had given out some numbers on sensitivity to the weak market and potentially weak alternative investment income. And you were referring to adjusted earnings. Should we assume that the impact on cash flows is similar or is it higher or lower for some? Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial01:00:20So the impact, if you think about it in terms of fee income, that will be mirrored on the cash flow side. If you think about it in terms of alternatives, that's more mark to market impact in earnings versus distributions. That being said, we remain confident in the cash flows in our business and we've demonstrated over time stability in the cash generation given the diversification in the business model. And sitting here today, we remain confident in being able to deliver on our payout ratio target for the year. Jimmy BhullarEquity Research Analyst at JP Morgan01:01:03Thank you. Operator01:01:06Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Tom Gallagher of Evercore ISI. Tom, your line is now open. Thomas GallagherAnalyst at Evercore01:01:17Good morning. First question just on the portfolio repositioning and then I had a follow-up on risk transfer. But on the portfolio repositioning, I guess two part question. One, how involved are you on the reallocation considering you're outsourcing most of the portfolio individual fixed income decisions to Blackstone and BlackRock. Are you actually involved in the bond by bond trades between them? Thomas GallagherAnalyst at Evercore01:01:53Or is it more of a broader overall portfolio allocation type of responsibility you now have? And then can you provide a little more color for if you're selling down your floaters, what are you repositioning that into? Is it private credit? Is it something else? A little bit of more elaboration on what's going on beneath the surface here. Thomas GallagherAnalyst at Evercore01:02:18Thanks. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial01:02:19Yes. Thanks, Tom. Look, I'll start. We control our investment strategy. We have very powerful origination partners and they're an extension of what our capabilities are. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial01:02:32But the strategy is ours, the risk appetite is ours and we provide very clear guidelines and allocations and instructions and are actively managing the portfolio through our partners. But I'll hand it over to Elias to address some of your other questions. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial01:02:52Yes, Tom, it's Elias. So to Kevin's point, we drive the decisions around repositioning as well as the decisions around where money gets invested. The different managers, BlackRock, Blackstone, but there's also our own internal team is still sourcing assets for us. It's based on what they, you know, they get allocations based on what they they think they could source for us and how that fits within the liabilities we offer. With respect to the repositioning we did in the first quarter, it got reinvested in combination. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial01:03:27Some of it was public credit, some of it was private credit. And we sold down some lower yielding bonds and reinvested the money. Thomas GallagherAnalyst at Evercore01:03:39Got you. Thank you for that. And then just on risk transfer, I guess we've had two recent deals in the market, one VA, another pretty big life deal. I would describe them as the pricing on VA was low, the pricing on high was pretty robust. How important is the pricing versus the view of tail risk? Thomas GallagherAnalyst at Evercore01:04:03Because I guess when I look at your VA block, I don't really think about it as being high risk. It seems like pretty low risk, even though it's a high risk category, I guess you could call it. So I'm just curious how you're approaching those two different businesses when you consider risk transfer. Is it really about optimizing shareholder value or reducing tail risk? Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial01:04:29So any transaction that we would pursue has to be accretive on a risk adjusted basis, just repeating what I said before. And that means both in terms of price and structure. Credit protection is important, price is important and there's we're constantly looking at what is the value add opportunity for the company. Yes. Elias HabayebExecutive VP & CFO at Corebridge Financial01:04:56And Tom, we do look at what the company would look like after that transaction. So it's really looking at you factor in the tail risk and improving the risk profile of the balance sheet as long as what you're getting for it in exchange. And we need to be a fair price in exchange. Thomas GallagherAnalyst at Evercore01:05:16Got you. Thank you. Operator01:05:19Thank you very much. I'd now like to hand back to Kevin Hogan for any further remarks. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial01:05:26Yes. Thanks. Look, I just want to take a moment here to thank our people and our partners for being a source of strength for our customers, supporting them in both good times and bad. What we do matters and moments of uncertainty highlight the importance of how we help people take action in their financial lives. Thanks for your questions. Kevin HoganDirector, President & CEO at Corebridge Financial01:05:45Thanks for joining us today and have a good day. Operator01:05:48As we conclude today's call, we'd like to thank everyone for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesIsil MuderrisogluHead of Investor & Rating Agency RelationsKevin HoganDirector, President & CEOElias HabayebExecutive VP & CFOAnalystsDaniel BergmanStock Analyst at TD CowenElyse GreenspanManaging Director at Wells Fargo SecuritiesJoel HurwitzLead Analyst at Dowling & PartnersSuneet KamathSenior Research Analyst at Jefferies & Company IncCave MontazeriAnalyst at Deutsche BankAlex ScottEquity Research Analyst at BarclaysJimmy BhullarEquity Research Analyst at JP MorganThomas GallagherAnalyst at EvercorePowered by