Energizer Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Energizer Holdings Inc. Second quarter two thousand twenty five results conference call. At this time, all lines are in listen only mode. And following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press 0 for the operator.

Operator

This call is being recorded on Tuesday, 05/06/2025. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Mr. Mark Levine. Please go ahead.

Jon Poldan
Jon Poldan
Vice President, Treasurer & Investor Relations at Energizer

Good morning, and welcome to Energizer's second quarter fiscal twenty twenty five conference call. Joining me today are Mark Levine, President and Chief Executive Officer and John Dravik, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. A replay of this call will be available on the Investor Relations section of our website energizerholdings.com. In addition, slide deck providing detailed financial results for the quarter is also posted on our website. During the call, we will make forward looking statements about the company's future business and financial performance, among other matters.

Jon Poldan
Jon Poldan
Vice President, Treasurer & Investor Relations at Energizer

These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to differ materially from these statements. We do not undertake to update these forward looking statements. Other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements are included in reports we file with the SEC. We also refer in our presentation to non GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of non GAAP financial measures to comparable GAAP measures is shown in our press release issued earlier today, which is available on our website.

Jon Poldan
Jon Poldan
Vice President, Treasurer & Investor Relations at Energizer

Information concerning our categories and estimated market share discussed on this call relates to the categories where we compete and is based on Energizer's internal data, data from industry analysis and estimates we believe to be reasonable. The battery category information includes both brick and mortar and e commerce retail sales. Unless otherwise noted, all comments regarding the quarter and year pertain to Energizer's fiscal year and all comparisons to prior year relate to the same period in fiscal twenty twenty four. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Mark.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our second quarter earnings call. John and I are going to first talk through the details of our Q2, and then we will spend the bulk of the time on the impact of the changing macro environment and how we are responding to it. Q2 was a solid quarter for us and largely consistent with our expectations. We saw growth continue for the fourth consecutive quarter, with organic sales up nearly 1.5%. We also expanded gross margins and delivered adjusted earnings per share of $0.67 at the upper end of our guided range.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

We are proud of our performance in the quarter, which was bolstered by many of the investments we have made in the past several years. Those decisions have not only contributed to our year over year results, but they are playing a critical role in helping us to navigate the current volatility. More on that in a moment. As we take a closer look at each of our businesses, recall the areas we have highlighted distribution, innovation, digital commerce, pricing and revenue management, and market expansion. Each of these areas has contributed and will continue to contribute to our fiscal twenty twenty five results.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

These focus areas come together on shelf or online as we strive to meet consumers where they are. Our battery business had a particularly strong performance, growing 3% organically in quarter. Our distribution footprint in The U. S. And international markets continues to grow across both brick and mortar retail and digital commerce.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

In auto care, we saw strong growth within our appearance and air freshener businesses, behind innovation, distribution gains, and market expansion. Our appearance business delivered 5.5% organic growth, largely driven by the launch of our new Podium Series product line, which is now on shelf in over 15,000 stores in both The U. S. And internationally. Overall, our auto business declined roughly 2.5% organically in the quarter, with the decline entirely driven by a shift in the timing of our refrigerant shipments from the second quarter into April.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Those are just the highlights of a solid second quarter. Now let me hand it to John to provide more details on Q2, before we then turn to an update on the impacts of tariffs and how we are leveraging our world class supply chain to manage the changing landscape. We will then finish with a view on the remainder of fiscal 'twenty five. John?

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Thanks, Mark, and good morning, everyone.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Second quarter reported net sales were flat, while organic revenue increased 1.4%. Our fourth consecutive quarter of organic growth was driven by a strong performance in batteries, partially offset by a decline in auto care. Batteries continues to benefit from significant distribution wins in The U. S, as well as strong international results, which combined to deliver organic growth globally. The launch of our Podium Series is also progressing nicely and in position for a strong performance during the summer season.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

However, in the current quarter, auto results were weighed down by a shift in timing of shipments within our refrigerants business, which have now largely shifted into April. Adjusted gross margin increased 30 basis points to 40.8%, primarily driven by an incremental $16,000,000 of project momentum savings in the quarter. Adjusted SG and A was 18.8 of net sales, an increase of $10,600,000 in the quarter. The year over year dollar increase was primarily driven by planned spending in our digital transformation and growth initiatives, as well as increased legal fees, partially offset by project momentum savings of approximately $4,000,000 A and P as a percent of sales was 3.1%, roughly flat versus the prior year. Interest expense was $38,000,000 an improvement from the prior year due to lower average debt outstanding.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

We delivered adjusted EBITDA and adjusted earnings per share of one hundred and forty point three million dollars and sixty seven cents per share, with adjusted earnings per share at the upper end of our previously provided outlook. During the quarter, we also refinanced our $500,000,000 revolving credit facility, now maturing in March 2030, and opportunistically extended the maturity of our term loan B, now maturing in March 2032. Importantly, we refinanced these facilities at roughly the same rates, while extending the maturities of both facilities by more than four years, and the weighted average maturity of our total debt portfolio by more than one year. Our nearest maturity is now $300,000,000 of notes maturing at the end of twenty twenty seven. Our free cash flow declined $44,100,000 year over year, primarily driven by investments in incremental inventory to support our plastic free packaging launch in The U.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

S. And incremental inventory to mitigate tariff exposures, as well as capital expenditures to support our plastic free packaging and digital transformation initiatives. Now, I'll turn it back over to Mark to take us through what we're seeing in the macro environment and the impact on our categories and consumers.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Thanks, John. Again, a performance we are very proud of despite ending the quarter in a more challenging environment relative to where we began.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

As we look ahead, the uncertainty around tariffs and the impact on the consumer create challenges for the balance of the year. Let's first talk about tariffs. Work we have done over the last two and a half years to transform our supply chain positions us well to mitigate the impact from tariffs much more quickly than we would have been able to previously. As a baseline, imports from China to The U. S.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Typically represent less than 5% of our consolidated cost of goods. And as John and I will cover, we have a clear path to further reduce our exposure during the next twelve months. Let's take a step back and revisit the changes we've made to provide more context on why we are confident in our ability to withstand the volatility that has become more and more common. You will recall that as we exited the COVID pandemic, we identified a substantial pipeline of initiatives to rebuild gross margins, improve working capital efficiency, and invest for long term growth. As part of that undertaking, we identified areas where we could improve cost, resiliency, and agility.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Many of these initiatives were captured within Project Momentum, which you have heard a lot about since we announced it in November 2022. The intent of the program was clearly designed to improve earnings growth and enhance free cash flow, But we were mindful that the changes to our network needed to also enhance our ability to absorb future shocks to the global supply chain. As Project Momentum got started, we took a clean sheet approach to our manufacturing and distribution network, with an emphasis on in region, for region production, ultimately to drive improved cost, agility, and resiliency. In addition to the work on our existing network, we made several strategic acquisitions over the last few years, which included manufacturing locations in Indonesia, Belgium, and our latest plant acquisition in Poland last week. The results have transformed how we bring products to market, and are particularly relevant today.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

For markets outside of The U. S, we currently source approximately 97% of our cost of goods from either in region or non U. S. Production facilities. In The U.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

S, products sourced from China for U. S. Consumption represents less than 5% of consolidated cost of goods. The remaining 95% are sourced mostly within The U. S, with the remainder from low tariff countries.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

The significant investments behind our digital transformation have also been a key enabler. In addition to greatly improved data visibility and analytics, it has allowed us to streamline processes and overall workflow, and has resulted in a more efficient and responsive organization, which is so critical in this environment. Progress we have made over the last several years has been tremendous. Even with that, we are not immune to the impact from the proposed tariffs. We remain focused on managing those items that are directly within our control.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

A critical area is ensuring that we stay close to the consumer and understand how they are reacting against this backdrop. Recently, there has been a notable shift in consumer sentiment, which has driven increased emphasis on value and heightened caution in their spending. In terms of the impact on our categories, let's start with battery. On a global basis, we expect the battery category to deliver low single digit growth over the long term. However, weakened consumer confidence and persistent inflation across the store may pressure volumes in the short term.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

In auto care, we expect consumer caution to have a mixed impact in the short term, as some consumers move into our categories and away from do it for me, while others prioritize their spend in other categories, which may be less discretionary for them. When we pull all of this together, tariffs, consumer confidence, and overall demand we have tempered our outlook over the remainder of the year, which John will cover now.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Thanks, Mark. Let me start with some details around tariff impacts. In an admittedly very fluid environment, we did want to share some directional impacts these tariffs would have on our business and how we are working to address them.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

So, let me first address fiscal year twenty twenty five. We have already taken a number of steps, including sourcing shifts and pricing, and do not expect tariffs to have a direct impact on our P and L this year. Now, moving to our exposures over a longer period of time, assuming tariffs announced this year remain in their current form, let me walk through our gross unmitigated exposures. Roughly 5% of our cost of goods are exposed to tariffs levied on China at an incremental 145% rate. And approximately 10% to 15% of our cost of goods are exposed to the rest of the world reciprocal tariffs.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

We have some exposure to the steel and aluminum tariffs announced this year as well. All in, this represents an incremental total headwind of roughly $150,000,000 of which 85% is attributable to the China tariffs. It's important to remember this is unmitigated. We are already working on solutions to minimize the ongoing impact and believe over the next twelve months, we can reduce the amount of our China sourced product by close to half through alternative sourcing partners and mix of our own internal supply. And based on the flexibility of our redesigned supply chain, we have the ability to rebalance our network and minimize the impact of tariffs related to all other countries.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

We've also already taken a round of pricing related to the initial round of tariffs, including for steel and aluminum. And as we gain more insights and certainty, we will assess additional commercial actions, including product offerings and additional pricing. By minimizing our China exposure, rebalancing our internal supply network, and targeted commercial actions, we have line of sight to offset the impacts of tariffs over the next twelve months. Looking to the balance of this year, while we are very encouraged with our year to date results, we know the recent volatility is negatively impacting consumer sentiment. Based on the most recent economic indicators, consumers are beginning to pull back on spending and becoming more value conscious with their dollars.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Based on this demand environment, we now expect the following results in the back half of fiscal 'twenty five. For the third quarter, we 20 Despite the expected slowdown in consumer spending and the related impact on our revenue, we intend to continue to invest in A and P behind our Podium launch during the quarter, resulting in adjusted EPS in the range of $0.55 to $0.65 per share. For the full year, we expect reported and organic net sales in the range of flat to up 2%.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Gross margin to be up 50 basis points and in line with prior guidance. Adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS in ranges of $610,000,000 to $630,000,000 and $3.3 to $3.5 per share, both reflecting positive growth at the midpoint versus prior year results. Our current outlook for earnings excludes any impacts from the recently acquired APS business in Europe. For the remainder of 2025, we expect the results of this business to have a modestly dilutive impact to our consolidated gross margins and neutral to earnings per share. We have also made incremental investments in inventory this year, as we work on various tariff mitigation strategies, as well as planned additional investments in working capital related to our recently announced European Battery acquisition.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Based on these additional uses of cash, we now expect free cash flow in the range of 6% to 8% of net sales and debt pay down of roughly $100,000,000 for the full year. In closing, we delivered a strong second quarter, but we entered the third quarter facing an uncertain macro environment in consumer. The organization has rallied around these macro challenges, and we have built a strategic advantage through our investments in our network, which will enable us to perform at a high level in a dynamic environment. I am highly confident we are executing the right strategies to deliver on our long term financial algorithm. With that, let's open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press the star followed by the one on your touch tone phone. You will then hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press the star followed by the two.

Operator

And if you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment, please, for your first question. And your first question comes from Peter Grom from UBS. Please go ahead.

Peter Grom
Peter Grom
Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group

Thanks, operator. Good morning, everyone. So I just wanted to follow-up on the tariff commentary. I know you just ran through that and all that color was incredibly helpful. But just given the many moving pieces, can we maybe just run through the mitigation impacts again?

Peter Grom
Peter Grom
Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group

And then I guess what I'm really trying to understand, and I recognize the situation fluid, it's really early to be talking about fiscal twenty six. But I was hoping to get some color in terms of how we should be thinking about or how we should be modeling this $150,000,000 gross number versus the expectation that you anticipate to mitigate that headwind over the next twelve months? Thanks.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Good morning, Peter. I just apologize for the late start today. We had some technological issues. Just want to make sure we're coming through clearly to you, Peter, in the call. You hearing us okay?

Peter Grom
Peter Grom
Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group

You sound great, guys.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Okay. Well,

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

it's great question, Peter. It's obviously probably the most timely question given the environment. We want to provide as much clarity as we can. I think what we want to do is it's important to separate and understand the impact of the different tranches of tariffs and the impact that they may have. I think from a headline standpoint, Peter, I'm going to turn it over to John to kind of walk through the details.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

But from a 25 standpoint, we have mitigated the impact of tariffs on 2025. So we've solved the impact there. I think as we look ahead to 2026, we are in the process of mitigating that exposure. It will take time, but we have line of sight over the next twelve months to mitigate all impact from tariffs over that period of time. And John can walk through some of the details about how we're thinking about it.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Yes. Thanks, Mark. Good morning, Peter. So I gave a gross tariff number of $150,000,000 in the prepared remarks, and I want to kind of break that down into a couple of buckets. The first one are tariffs in place already, and then the second group are tariffs that are announced but not yet active.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

So the tariffs that are already in place include the steel and aluminum tariffs that we've talked about and then the China IEPA. And as Mark said, we've effectively neutralized the direct impacts of these tariffs. That was through sourcing shifts, pricing and then inventory that we have on hand, which is offsetting any impact that we would have to 25,000,000 that's going to carry forward for us as well. Now, we'll turn to the tariffs that have been announced but not yet in place, which are really the reciprocal tariffs. So you've got China, which is the 125% incremental tariff and then rest of world tariffs, which are currently 10%.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

So starting with China, I think Mark mentioned that this represents only about 5% of our consolidated COGS, but that really is the overwhelming majority of the absolute tariff exposure. So whether or not those incremental 125 rates for China go into effect, we already have plans in place to reduce the underlying China exposure through sourcing from something like 5% to 2% to 3%. So we'll cut that in half relatively quickly over the next twelve months. And then the rest of the world tariffs are which are about 10% to 15% of our consolidated cost of goods, these are exposed to the 10% reciprocal rest of world tariff and we're actively working to minimize those by sourcing changes, rerouting our network and then commercial actions that we will continue to take. So we've addressed and offset the tariffs already in place, and then we have concrete plans today to address about 60% to 70% of the tariffs announced, but not yet implemented, and that's going to happen over the next twelve months.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

So we're confident for the remainder of the 30% to 40% that we'll continue to look at additional supply chain actions and commercial actions to get take care of those. And so we think that over the course of the next year, ultimately we'll be able to offset the entire exposure. Now to your point about 26%, we're continuing to work through how that will look and we'll give guidance in a couple of quarters, but it will be a transitional year where we start incurring some of these larger tariffs in the next month and those will go into inventory and then they'll start coming back out into our P and L. So we'll give a better color what the total impact of 26% is will be in a couple of quarters, But we think we can minimize the gross number by at least half, if not more.

Peter Grom
Peter Grom
Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group

Great. Thanks so much. That was super helpful. I'll pass it on.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Thanks, Peter.

Operator

Thank you. And your next question comes from Bill Chappell from Truist Securities. Please go ahead.

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Thanks. Good morning.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Good morning, Bill.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Hey, Bill.

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Hey, I mean, I know there's the tariffs are it's murky in kind of the outlook, and appreciate the mitigation you've done kind of for your specifically, but what are you hearing or kind of what's your evaluation of, I guess the devices out there that use batteries? And I mean, I'm trying to think of, mean, like, a lot of washing machines are made in China and they're gonna see a big tariff coming over to The US, and so, but washing machines don't use batteries to my knowledge. You know, have you looked at kind of the device market and how that's going to be impacted then kind of put that into your forecast? Because I understand consumers are cautious now, but what happens when those devices go up 30%, fifty % in price? Just trying to understand how that goes into your algebra for the back half of the year.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

So we take all of those factors into account as we kind of look forward. And we certainly are mindful that devices are going to likely become more expensive. Those devices that previously used our batteries will continue to use our batteries. And but you are going to see consumers react to higher prices. You have seen we have recent experience with this, which in COVID, you had a lot of that device pull forward where consumers bought a lot of devices, then they didn't for a couple of years and they were just getting back into a replenishment cycle on devices.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

So we're in contact with our OEM partners. We understand the way they're thinking about it.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

As John said, some of these tariffs are in place, some of them aren't yet. We'll have to wait and see what happens with that. But we I think this is in part of the logic behind taking the prudent approach to call down our top line outlook because it is an uncertain consumer environment.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

We do expect consumers to pull back. That would include device ownership and that would impact our replenishment as well.

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

And so just to clarify, you're assuming that it gets worse, it just has higher prices coming in and that's factored into the back half. Is that the right way to look at it?

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Yes.

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Okay. And then just on Auto Care, I mean, historically, when there's been a slowdown in kind of new car sales, helps the Auto Care because people are taking care of spending more time on their existing used.

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Is that kind of how you're looking at this summer or is it too early to tell?

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

Well, what I would say

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

is there's headwinds and tailwinds that emerge in difficult economic times with consumers on auto care. I mean, first, it's slightly some of our categories are more discretionary for consumers and so they will opt out of those purchases in favor of other categories, which are less discretionary for those consumers. However, to your point, people are going to hold on to their cars longer and cars, the age of the fleet is going to continue to increase in age. They will also migrate from do it for me to do it yourself, which helps create a tailwind within the auto care category. So there's puts and takes on balance.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

We do expect some impact to consumers as they pull back and become more cautious. But there's some natural offsets which occur as well. And again, all of that has been taken into account as we provided our forward look.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Yes, maybe just to add for that for some color. Bill, we're expecting low single digit increases in auto in the third quarter.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

So we're still relatively bullish on our auto business going into the busy season. And that's behind podium and you saw the shift to front of the refrigerants from Q2 to Q3. So that should boost the quarter a little bit.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

And Bill, as a reminder, the podium series is a super premium offering, which again, those consumers tend to be more immune to the pricing impact than others, and we've launched that product in a timely place right now from a consumer standpoint as they may migrate into the do it yourself as opposed to do it for me.

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

So again, just to clarify, your lower top line guidance is auto and battery or is it primarily battery and just a slight modification to auto?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Yes, it's more battery, auto. I mean, they're both down a little bit, but auto is still positive in the third quarter.

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

Got it. Thanks so much.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Thanks, Bill.

Operator

Thank you. And your next question comes from Lauren Lieberman from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Lauren Lieberman
Lauren Lieberman
Managing Director at Barclays

Great. Thanks. Good morning. I was curious if you could talk a little bit about any retailer destocking that you have seen. You haven't mentioned it yet, but I would think that that's something that could well be a headwind for 3Q.

Lauren Lieberman
Lauren Lieberman
Managing Director at Barclays

So can you just talk about your things destocking wise? Thanks.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Sure, Lauren. I think as you've seen some of the recent scanner trends that have come out and you've seen some softening in the consumer, including in the battery category, Naturally that will cause a slight uptick in inventory on hand with retailers. I wouldn't say it's significant or meaningful. It's just a natural effect of some softer POS sales. We think that will mitigate over time as retailers moderate their replenishment orders, and we have taken that into account in sort of our 3Q and 4Q forecast.

Lauren Lieberman
Lauren Lieberman
Managing Director at Barclays

Okay, got it. So this is, in part, this adjustment to the back half is not just weakening or the risk of weakening consumer, it's retail orders catching up with consumer takeaway that you've already seen in the first half?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

That's correct.

Lauren Lieberman
Lauren Lieberman
Managing Director at Barclays

Okay, great. And then curious if you can tell us a little bit more about the APS acquisition. Just is this primarily the manufacturing asset or else I know that APS manufactured Panasonic in Europe. So is that also going to be part of your portfolio going forward? And if so, just anything you can share with us strategically on how Panasonic would fit in?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Sure. We're really excited to be able to get that one closed. We just closed on it this past Friday. It really has a number of attributes to it. One is greater scale in our European business, notably in Germany, UK, Poland, Spain as key markets.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

It is another asset, to your point, in our network, and it provides a manufacturing facility in Poland, which again will help us continue to lean into the in region for region manufacturing. We were just we just closed on Friday, the integration teams are meeting actually this week to get together and understand how do we want to push these two businesses together and create the most value. There is a brand transition from Panasonic to the Energizer brands, so that will take place over the balance of this calendar year. So we'll be transitioning from Panasonic into the Energizer family of brands over the next eight months or so, and that'll be part of the process that the teams are discussing this week as well.

Lauren Lieberman
Lauren Lieberman
Managing Director at Barclays

Okay, great. Thanks so much.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Thanks, Lauren.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Robert Ottenstein from Energizer. Please go ahead.

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & head of the Global Beverages and Household Products Team at EvercoreISI

Great. Thank you very much. I've got two questions but let start off with one and then we'll go to the next. So first, when we go out and kind of do our trade visits and you look at batteries and you look at the back, what we find is Duracell batteries made in China, a lot of private label made in Vietnam, private label made in China. And so, you know, this is, you know, a multidimensional situation.

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & head of the Global Beverages and Household Products Team at EvercoreISI

Right? And can you help us think through how you're looking at the impact on competitors, what competitors may do with their supply chains? And what that overall impact will be on competitive dynamics on one level and the other just how retailers may start to change how they think about competitors and private label. Because if you think this is all going to continue for some time, you may decide to switch which suppliers you want to work with based on your perceptions of the suppliers' supply chains. So love to kind of get that dimension of the whole tariff situation, if you can.

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & head of the Global Beverages and Household Products Team at EvercoreISI

Thank you.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Good morning, Robert. Let me start with on the competitive set. I think the way to think about this is our main competitor is great competitor. I don't think we may have different input headwinds or production headwinds. I would say, based on the way we think about it, we think we're largely in the same place as our main competitor and there's not necessarily a discernible advantage for us in that space.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

I think if you flip private label, the way to provide some dimension to this is, if you think about the private label portion of the category in The U. S, call it roughly 20% of the category, about 50% of that is manufactured in The U. S. Or in sort of I'll call them low tariff countries including Vietnam. The other 50% of that 20% is manufactured in China.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

So to your point, is there an opportunity? There could be certainly one that our teams are chasing. We don't want to necessarily get into the private label business. We've said our philosophy on private label is we're going to engage in private label to the extent that can advantage our brands. And certainly, we have a stable of value brands that can help add to the offerings that any retailer may have and may be able to provide an augment to the private label in the form of a value brand in their store.

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & head of the Global Beverages and Household Products Team at EvercoreISI

Right. So wouldn't make commercial sense to redouble those efforts with Ryovac and saying, look, let us come in with the Ryovac and phase out your private label and we'll give you that value tier or develop some other strategy whether it's kind of a joint sort of Ryovac private brand or some kind of twist for the retailers, but kind of use this situation as an opportunity to deepen your relationship with retailers and gain incremental shelf space.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Love the way you're thinking. I can assure you we're having the same conversations internally as well.

Bill Chappell
Bill Chappell
Managing Director at Truist Securities

All

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & head of the Global Beverages and Household Products Team at EvercoreISI

right. Well, let me I don't want to monopolize the call. I got a bunch of other questions, so I'll pass it on and we

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & head of the Global Beverages and Household Products Team at EvercoreISI

can follow-up later. Thank you.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Thanks, Robert.

Operator

You. And your next question comes from Andrea from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Andrea Teixeira
Andrea Teixeira
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase

Thank you and good morning, everyone. So, I wanted to just see if you can comment on the exit rate of the quarter, on the underlying consumption rate vis a vis what we're seeing in the category, perhaps step back and talk about the category in The U. S. And then as you see the exit rate. And then related to what you just discussed about private label and radio vac, I was wondering because your price mix was down about 50 bps in the second quarter, and that includes trade promotions.

Andrea Teixeira
Andrea Teixeira
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase

So if you can talk about how the consumer has been behaving in terms of your higher priced tiers against Rayovac and against, like, even entry level or even packs, like, as as we think about it. And you have, obviously, one customer on club and and think about, like, how you've been able to move channels as the consumers and meet the consumers where they are? Thank you.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Thanks, Andrea. A lot of questions in there. Let me see if I can hit them and then you can follow-up on anyone that I may have missed. I mean, let's just talk category from a battery standpoint. Globally, what we saw through February was the category volume was roughly was it grew about 1%, one point five % through February.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

In The U. S, through the March, volume was flat. But what seen in the latest thirteen week data April is that you've seen some volume declines over that time period. So you've seen some sequential softening in the category from a volume standpoint. Overall promotion levels to your point, I mean, you're seeing stable promotions.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

In fact, it's down year over year in terms of the percentage with the price reduction. It's above a little bit above historical levels, but nothing concerning from an overly promotional environment. You are seeing depth really flat year over year, but below historical averages. So there's a little there's a few puts and takes there, but I would say relatively benign and healthy promotional environment. We do have the broad offering.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

I mean, the benefit of our business is we are in distribution in every channel. So as consumers migrate in search of value, we are there to meet them. We have different pack sizes, we have different brands, we have different offerings that we can meet them in terms of whatever value orientation that they may have. In terms of the value and volume mix, John can probably give you the way we're looking at it from a Q3 and Q4 split.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

I can.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Let me just wrap up on Q2 though, just to give a little bit more. So the actually pricing on battery was relatively flat. Of the 50 basis points down, it was more investments and promotions that we did on auto as we came into the season. So that was more of the driver of the down 50. So battery was actually to Mark's point relatively flat.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Looking forward, as we think about maybe just to map out Q3 and Q4 and give a little more color, we expect to be flat to down 2% in the third quarter. That's really low single digit declines in battery. We're going to offset those partially with low single digit increases in auto, which is going to continue to benefit from the Podium launch and those shifting refrigerant sales. So, also on a reported basis, currency has the dollar has weakened as we know, so that should leave our full reported currency impact relatively neutral. We've kind of gone up and down and we're back to neutral for the full year.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

We expect gross margin to be roughly flat and then we're calling for EPS of $0.55 to $0.65 and that's really the expectation that we're going to continue investing in A and P in the third quarter behind our podium launch and that's in spite of some of the expected consumer headwinds that we're seeing in the near term. As we go, maybe just to give a little bit of color on the fourth quarter since we're kind of changing our outlook a bit here. We expect strong performance as the full impact of pricing, so we talked about the pricing that we're going to take to offset tariffs. That's going to hit in full in the fourth quarter and we should see that. We also took some pricing for innovation and that's also going to be realized in the fourth quarter.

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

That's going to benefit margins. And then we don't expect to spend nearly as much on podium in the fourth quarter as we did in the third quarter. So we'll see kind of a lift from that. And that really should result in some nice earnings for us as we finish out the year.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Anything we missed, Andrea?

Andrea Teixeira
Andrea Teixeira
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase

No. This is perfect. Thank you so much for hitting all the questions. I'll pass it on.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from William Reuter from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

Hi. Just a couple for me. And I know I maybe I just got myself very confused. But in your first question when you were asked about fiscal year 'twenty six, I thought you said that you would be able to offset all of it by the end or by the time that happens. But then your last statement, you said, well, we can offset the gross impact by half, if not more.

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

I guess can you help clarify that?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

We will have taken the actions necessary to offset the tariffs. We will start incurring those tariffs at the May, the incremental, the new ones that have been announced, but haven't started haven't been put in place. So we're going to see those dollars being spent throughout the summer and into the fall. We're taking actions currently to get out of these tariffs and we think in the next twelve months we will be able to offset most of them, if not all. And so there will be a P and L impact through the course of 2026.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

It's going to be dependent on rates and volumes and a lot of other things. So it's hard to give an exact number. What I would say is that gross 150 number will be cut by half as we look at '26, we just don't know exactly where we're going to then we can take commercial actions and other things to offset in addition.

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

I get it. Thank you. Sorry for being dense. Second question, your free cash flow guidance is down a little for the year. Do you still expect to repay 150,000,000 to $200,000,000 of debt?

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

Or is that expectation lowering?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Yes. We're going to shoot for $100,000,000 So we think we invested around $100,000,000 in inventory for a couple of reasons. We knew we were going to invest in incremental inventory for plastic free packaging because we're making that transition in North America this year. We've also invested in some additional inventory to try to mitigate some of the tariff exposure. So we expect some of these to start coming out in the third quarter.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

They should bolster us in the back half of the year, but it's still incremental to what we had planned coming in. So we're shooting for six to eight percent free cash flow, and I think we're going to go for $100,000,000 of debt pay down, which will happen in the third and fourth quarters.

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

Got it. And then just lastly for me, from a competitive perspective, the de minimis exemption that's being repealed or likely being repealed, do you think that this will have any positive impact on the company? You believe that there have been batteries that have been being shipped to The U. S. And sold through TIMU or other retailers that haven't been subject to tariffs?

John Drabik
John Drabik
Executive VP & CFO at Energizer

Bill, I think the best way to think about this is from an overall standpoint, we think our production network, we think our sourcing optionality and our distribution footprint provides us an advantage in this environment. It takes time to work through some of the sources of changes as well as the distribution changes that may come as a result of these tariffs. But I think we need to work through that and see where we land before we sort of call any benefit or detriment going forward.

William Reuter
William Reuter
Analyst at Bank of America

Okay, that's all for me. I'll pass to others. Thank you.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Thanks, Bill.

Operator

Thank you. And your final question comes from Carla Casella from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Carla Casella
Carla Casella
Managing Director at JP Morgan

Hi. One follow-up on Bill's question about the debt paydown. Do you have a long term leverage target?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Not that we what I would say is we're trying to get to four times and below, and that can debt pay down continues to be one of our top it is our top priority. So we'll continue to focus on paying down. I think we'd like to get to four and below. Obviously, we got to get to four point five first, and we're just going to keep paying down and working our way towards that.

Carla Casella
Carla Casella
Managing Director at JP Morgan

Okay, great. And then on the raw material, does your basket of raw materials change dramatically with your move to the plastic free packaging?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

No, not dramatically. I mean, the majority of our materials are still the same on the battery side, it'd be steel, zinc, manganese, all those things with the packaging, it'll just be a different mix of it, there might be a little bit more cardboard, but not a huge change. The bulk of the cost is in the battery. Yes, the bulk of the cost is in the battery. So it's not that big a change.

Carla Casella
Carla Casella
Managing Director at JP Morgan

Okay, great. And then just when you talked about bringing some of your sourcing in house as you derisk from China. Is that bringing into your own facilities worldwide or is it into other third party facilities sourcing?

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

We look at everything. So we'll look at bringing it in house, we'll look at other partnerships that we could have in different parts of the world. It's just a big sourcing exercise to make sure that as we forecast demand around the world, what's the way we can fulfill that demand in the most cost efficient way? And so we will mix and match our sourcing partners, internal, external, to make sure we come up with optimized costs for our retailers.

Carla Casella
Carla Casella
Managing Director at JP Morgan

Okay, great. Thanks so much.

Operator

Thank you. And there are no further questions at this time. Mr. Levine, you may continue.

Mark LaVigne
Mark LaVigne
President and CEO at Energizer

Thanks for everyone joining us today. Everyone, have a great rest of the day. Thanks for your interest in Energizer.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you very much for participating and ask that you may disconnect. Have a great day.

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Key Takeaways

  • In Q2, Energizer delivered its fourth consecutive quarter of growth with organic sales up 1.5% and adjusted EPS of $0.67 at the upper end of guidance, driven by ongoing investments and cost‐savings initiatives.
  • The battery business grew 3% organically, led by distribution gains in the U.S. and internationally, while auto care saw a 2.5% organic decline entirely due to timing shifts in refrigerant shipments, offset by 5.5% growth in the new Podium Series.
  • Energizer’s Project Momentum and strategic supply‐chain reengineering have reduced China import exposure to under 5% of consolidated COGS, positioning the company to mitigate an estimated $150 million tariff headwind by halving China sourcing over the next 12 months.
  • Adjusted gross margin expanded 30 bps to 40.8% on $16 million of project savings, and the company refinanced its $500 million revolver and extended term loans to 2030/2032, while free cash flow dipped due to inventory builds for plastic-free packaging and tariff mitigation.
  • For Q3, Energizer now expects EPS of $0.55–$0.65 with continued A&P behind Podium; full‐year guidance is flat to +2% organic sales, +50 bps gross margin, $610–$630 million adjusted EBITDA and $3.30–$3.50 EPS, with 6–8% free cash flow and ~$100 million debt paydown.
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