Lear Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Lear Corporation First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please also note today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Tim Brumbaugh, Vice President, Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Timothy Brumbaugh
Timothy Brumbaugh
VP of IR at Lear Corporation

Thanks, Jamie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Lear's first quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. Presenting today are Ray Scott, Lear President and CEO and Jason Cardew, Senior Vice President and CFO. Other members of Lear's senior management team have also joined us on the call. Following prepared remarks, we will open the call for Q and A.

Timothy Brumbaugh
Timothy Brumbaugh
VP of IR at Lear Corporation

You can find a copy of the presentation that accompanies these remarks at ir.leer.com. Before Ray begins, I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you that as we conduct this call, we will be making forward looking statements to assist you in understanding Lear's expectations for the future. As detailed in our Safe Harbor statement on Slide two, our actual results could differ materially from these forward looking statements due to many factors discussed in our latest 10 ks and other periodic reports. I also want to remind you that during today's presentation, we will refer to non GAAP financial metrics. You are directed to the slides in the appendix of our presentation for the reconciliation of non GAAP items to the most directly comparable GAAP measures.

Timothy Brumbaugh
Timothy Brumbaugh
VP of IR at Lear Corporation

The agenda for today's call is on Slide three. First, Ray will review highlights from the quarter and provide a business update. Jason will then review our first quarter results and provide an update on the factors impacting our full year guidance. Finally, Ray will offer some concluding remarks. Following the formal presentation, we would be happy to take your questions.

Timothy Brumbaugh
Timothy Brumbaugh
VP of IR at Lear Corporation

Now I'd like to invite Ray to begin.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Thanks, Tim. Please turn to Slide five, which highlights key financial metrics for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. They delivered $5,600,000,000 of revenue in the first quarter. Core operating earnings were $270,000,000 and our total company operating margins improved to 4.9%, near our previously targeted exit run rate of 5% Adjusted earnings per share was $3.12 Operating cash flow was a use of $128,000,000 in the first quarter.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Slide six summarizes key business and financial highlights from the quarter. As a reminder, our strategic priorities continue to be extending our global leadership position in Seating, expanding margins in E Systems through our focused product portfolio, growing our operational excellence and competitive advantage through Idea by Alir and supporting our sustainable value creation with disciplined capital allocation. Our execution on these key priorities enabled us to improve our operating margins in both Seating and E Systems as well as for the total company in the quarter despite the challenging market conditions. This improvement was driven by historic levels of positive net performance contributing 125 basis points to Seating and 155 basis points to E Systems margins. Efficiency improvements, particularly in E Systems and savings from our investments in restructuring and automation in both segments are driving durable operating performance.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

This was our best single quarter of net performance since the second quarter of twenty twenty one. We're extending our global leadership position in Seating, winning two new ComfortFlex programs and a new global Seat program with key Chinese domestic automakers. For Volvo, we will provide a ComfortFlex module combining ventilation and pneumatic lumbar support. We will also supply our combined steering wheel heat and hands on detection module for a second program with Honda. This award illustrates how winning and validating a module for a customer can lead to the sourcing of additional programs.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

The performance improvements driven by our Comfort Flex modules are gaining recognition from third parties such as Motor Trend. In a recent review of the Lucid Gravity, Motor Trend noted, the massage seats for both front passengers were nothing short of exceptional, offering a deeper and more therapeutic experience than most rivals. We supply the ComfortFlex module that combines heat, ventilation and lumbar and massage for the lucid gravity. In China, we won several awards with domestic Chinese automakers such as BYD, FAW and Xiaoping. In April, we took operating control of one of our joint ventures in China, which supplies seats on two key programs for BYD.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Consolidating this joint venture is expected to add approximately $70,000,000 to our reported revenue for 2025. In E Systems, we continue to win new business across all our focused product lines. The awarded business totaling more than $750,000,000 in annual sales was the most in any quarter in more than a decade. In Wiring, we won two key awards with Ford and BMW. For Ford, won a large award for a program with production in North America, including conquest volume incremental to the portion we currently supply.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

We were awarded our third major wire harness program with BMW, launching in 2028. And building on the momentum we have with BMW, this is our first BMW Wire award in China. Our teams continue to develop innovative solution. This quarter, we were awarded a second generation battery disconnect unit with a key customer by providing an enhanced design relative to the current generation. Our innovation continues to be recognized by third parties.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Our Zone Control Module won a PACE Award from Automotive News. It's highly configurable software increases scalability and enables flexibility in wire harness designs. I'd to congratulate the team for this incredible honor. The first quarter results highlights our ability to execute our strategy in any macro environment. During the quarter, we repurchased 25,000,000 worth of shares, demonstrating our confidence in our long term outlook for the company.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Slide seven provides an update on the key metrics we introduced during our last quarterly earnings call, which investors can use to track our progress on expanding margins and generating long term revenue growth. For Seating, we still expect to quote up to $3,000,000,000 in conquest opportunities this year, with most programs awarded in the second half. While the quote pipeline remains robust, customers had delayed sourcing on some programs into 2026 and there could be more as customers reevaluate their plans based on the recent changes to tariff policies. In E Systems, approximately 20% of our first quarter awards were for conquest business, including incremental content on the existing forward wire programs. We continue to pursue additional conquest opportunities.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Customer interest in our innovative module seat product is growing. Two additional awards for our Comfort Flex modules bring our total to 21 programs for Comfort Flex, Comfort Max, Seat and Flex Air products. And our robust pipeline of development projects will lead to further program wins. Our strong relationships with Chinese domestic automakers continue to deliver new program wins. We will supply complete seats for several programs with BYD, FAW and Xiaoping in China and continued our discussions with BYD to support their global growth outside of China.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

The FAW award is conquest business and we are actively quoting additional opportunities with both FAW and Xiaoping as well as other Chinese domestic customers that we expect will be sourced in the coming quarters. Our first quarter performance was driven by strong performance across the key metrics we previously outlined as enablers to improve margins in both segments. Investments in Idea by Lear and our automation projects generated $11,000,000 of savings in the first quarter, with benefits compounding over the year. Restructuring investments contributed $12,000,000 of savings in the first quarter. Efficiency improvements in our operations allowed us to reduce our global hourly headcount by 3,600 in the first quarter, primarily in Mexico and Eastern Europe.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Since the end of twenty twenty three, we have reduced our global hourly headcount by nearly 19,000 or 10%. Our strategic actions drove our strong net performance in the quarter. We are on pace to deliver at least 40 basis points in Seating and 80 basis points of net performance in E Systems this year. And lastly, the 4.9% operating margin we delivered in the first quarter increases our confidence that we can continue to expand margins in both business segments over time. Turning to Slide eight.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

The global trade landscape is shifting rapidly and tariffs are at the forefront of these changes. I will provide an overview of our exposure and the proactive steps we are taking to mitigate the risk. Our exposure is primarily in two areas direct exposure, where we are the importer of record in the countries with tariffs on the components and indirect exposure to the vehicle production that may be disrupted due to tariffs or softening demand. The tariff impact was minimal in the first quarter and we are working with our customers to ensure full recovery of the costs we incurred. Our direct exposure is primarily in Mexico and Honduras.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

On an annual basis, we import into The United States from Mexico approximately $2,800,000,000 of components where either Lear or suppliers provide the parts and Lear is the importer of record. These components are primarily trim and structures and seating and wire harnesses in these systems. Approximately 94% of the components imported into The U. S. From Mexico and Canada are USMCA compliant, a significant increase from approximately 77% that were fully compliant at the end of twenty twenty four due to the work that we have done to ensure all compliant parts are certified.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

On an annual basis, we import approximately $625,000,000 of components from Honduras, primarily wire harnesses in E Systems, which are subject to the Section two thirty two tariffs. We already have customer commitments in place, which cover more than 90% of the Honduras exposure and expect to complete agreements with customers for the remaining 10% in the coming days. Changes to North American production due to customer schedules or softening customer demand is our primary indirect tariff exposure. Approximately $1,800,000,000 of our 2024 North American sales was derived from vehicles exported to The United States from Mexico and Canada. Additional indirect exposure is on European vehicles exported to The U.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

S. Of approximately $8,000,000,000 of sales in Europe for 2024, about $1,000,000,000 or 13% were on vehicles exported to The U. S. We have taken proactive steps and moved aggressively to minimize our gross exposure. Our first step was to build a team of 60 individuals from across the organization focused on measuring our exposure through our supply chain development processes to track and report our cost and execute our mitigation actions.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Our continued focus on automation and investments we made in digital tools such as foundry have enabled us to quickly develop operational capabilities to track in the impact tariffs and support our commercial recovery plans with our customers. Our message to customers has been very clear. 100% of all tariffs must be recovered. At the same time, the team has worked very aggressively to provide solutions to minimize the overall exposure for our customers. Innovative designs, engineering changes and alternative sourcing options can reduce the overall tariff costs.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

As the largest U. S.-based automotive supplier, we continue to have conversations with the administration and other key elected officials to clearly explain how our supply chain has been optimized as well as the rationale for sourcing certain labor intensive products for Mexico and Honduras. This ultimately ensures our customers can produce and sell vehicles at competitive prices in The U. S. Market and globally.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

The evolving trade policy environment has clearly created uncertainty for the automotive industry. We're developing multiple planning and manufacturing scenarios to quickly respond to changes in trade policy. Our investments in automation provide us with a competitive advantage to grow capabilities we currently have in The U. S, such as injection molded components, stamping, foam, flex air, fabrics and the assembly of battery disconnect units in their self connect boards. While tariffs are impacting the entire automotive industry, Lear is taking proactive approaches to reduce the direct and indirect impact of tariffs through innovative solutions.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

And now I'd like to turn the call over to Jason for the financial review.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

Thanks, Ray. Slide 10 shows vehicle production and key exchange rates for the first quarter. Global production increased 1% compared to the same period last year, slightly better than expected due to higher production in all regions, but still down 5% on a Leer sales weighted basis driven by lower year over year production in North America and Europe. Production volumes declined by 5% in North America and by 7% in Europe, while volumes in China were up 12%.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

U. S. Dollar strengthened against both the euro and the RMB. Slide 11 highlights Lear's growth over market. In the first quarter, sales performed in line with global industry production with seating growth over market in line and E Systems down 1%.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

Excluding the impact of the wind down of discontinued product lines, E Systems growth over market would have been 4%. In Europe, sales outperformed industry production by two percentage points, driven by new business with BMW and Renault and E Systems, as well as higher volumes in several Mercedes and Land Rover programs and seating. North America revenue growth lagged the market by two percentage points, reflecting lower volumes on Lear platforms such as the Jeep Wagoneer and Ford Explorer and Aviator and seating and the Ford Escape and E Systems. New Seating and E Systems business on the Volvo EX90 and the Chevrolet Equinox EV and Seating offset a portion of the underperformance in the region. Our China business lagged industry growth estimates by five percentage points, driven by lower volumes on several BMW programs in Seating and the wind down of onboard charger business for several JLR programs in E Systems.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

New business on the Xiaomi Su seven and two LEAP motor programs in Seating and the Xiaoping Mona and E Systems offset a portion of the underperformance in China. We continue to grow our share with key Chinese automakers such as BYD and Geely, which will further improve our customer mix in China going forward. We recently took operating control of the Seating joint venture in China supporting two BYD programs, which will have a positive impact on our consolidated growth over market going forward and provide investors with a clear view of the strength of our competitive position in this key market. Turning to slide 12, I'll highlight our financial results for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. Our sales declined 7% year over year to $5,600,000,000 Excluding the impact of foreign exchange, commodities, acquisitions and divestitures, sales were down 5%, reflecting lower volumes on Lear platforms, partially offset by the addition of new business in both our business segments.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

Core operating earnings were $270,000,000 compared to $280,000,000 last year, driven by lower volumes on Lear platforms, partially offset by positive net performance in our margin accretive backlog. Adjusted earnings per share were $3.12 as compared to $3.18 a year ago, reflecting lower adjusted net income, partially offset by the benefit of our share repurchase program. First quarter operating cash flow was a use of $128,000,000 As expected, operating cash flow was negatively impacted in the quarter by the timing of the close of this quarter as compared to last year and higher cash restructuring costs, which will further improve our cost structure going forward. Slide 13 explains the variance in sales and adjusted operating margins for the first quarter in the Seating segment. Sales for the first quarter were $4,200,000,000 a decrease of $327,000,000 or 7% from 2024.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

Excluding the impact of foreign exchange, commodities, acquisitions and divestitures, sales were down 5% due to lower volumes on Lear platforms, partially offset by the addition of new business. Adjusted earnings were $280,000,000 down $15,000,000 or 5% from 2024, with adjusted operating margins of 6.7. Operating margins were higher compared to last year, reflecting strong net performance, partially offset by lower production on Lear platform. Slide 14 explains the variance in sales and adjusted operating margins in the E Systems segment for the first quarter. Sales for the first quarter were 1,400,000,000 a decrease of $108,000,000 or 7% from 2024.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

Excluding the impact of foreign exchange, commodities, acquisitions and divestitures, sales were down 5%, driven primarily by the wind down of discontinued product lines and lower volumes on Lear platforms, partially offset by the addition of new business. Adjusted earnings were $74,000,000 or 5.2% of sales compared to $77,000,000 and 5.1% of sales in 2024. Operating margins were higher compared to last year, reflecting strong net performance and the roll on of our margin accretive backlog, partially offset by lower production on Lear platforms and the wind down of discontinued product lines. The strong net performance in the quarter was driven by operating improvements across all regions that we expect to result in durable improvements to our margins going forward. Slide 15 provides an update on our full year outlook.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

While our first quarter results were solid and we have made significant progress on our operational improvement initiatives, the ongoing international trade negotiations have introduced significant uncertainty in both the broader global economy as well as the automotive industry. As Ray indicated earlier, there are two exposures that we're managing. The direct impact of tariffs and the indirect impact on production volume and mix. We remain confident that we will recover the indirect impact the direct impact of tariffs. This has been our position from the start and we have made significant progress in our negotiations with customers.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

On the other hand, the indirect impact associated with production volume and mix is not yet clear. External production forecasts have deteriorated since February and we expect that OEMs will need time to adjust their production and mix plans to account for the recent changes in global trade policy. On the positive side, we expect the recent weakening of the U. S. Dollar to have a favorable impact on our full year results and we continue to make progress on negotiations with customers to recover the full cost of tariffs.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

In addition, we are making significant progress on our operating performance initiatives and remain on track for the net performance targets outlined at the beginning of the year. We are increasing our investment in restructuring to accelerate our footprint rationalization actions and reduce costs. At the same time, we are lowering our capital spending by roughly the same amount as we adjust our new capacity and other discretionary capital investments in response to the weaker industry production outlook. While as a result of the uncertainty in the industry, we are not reaffirming our 2025 full year outlook, we do remain confident we can deliver the operating performance improvements highlighted on our last earnings call. We typically speak at a public investor conference during each quarter and we'll use those opportunities to provide updates on the business and we'll reintroduce our full year outlook when we have increased clarity from customers on their production plans for the remainder of the year.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

Moving to slide 16, we highlight our balanced capital allocation strategy. We have a strong balance sheet and liquidity profile, which is a significant competitive advantage for us in today's uncertain environment. We do not have any near term outstanding debt maturities. Our earliest bond maturity is in 2027 and our debt structure has a weighted average life of approximately twelve years. Our cost of debt is low averaging approximately 4%.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

In addition, we have $2,800,000,000 of available liquidity. Our capital allocation priorities remain consistent. We are focused on generating strong cash flow, investing in the core business to drive profitable growth and returning excess cash to shareholders. During the quarter, we repurchased $25,000,000 worth of shares. Our current share repurchase authorization has approximately 1,100,000,000 remaining, which allows us to repurchase shares through 12/31/2026.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

We are temporarily pausing share repurchase activity to ensure we maintain our strong liquidity position during this period of uncertainty. Based on recent developments, we believe this pause will be short and are planning to reinstate share repurchases as soon as visibility improves. Now I'll turn it back to Rafe for some closing thoughts.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Thanks, Jason. Please turn to Slide 18.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Our first quarter results provided another clear example of our ability to deliver strong performance in a volatile industry environment. We continue to execute on our strategic initiative to position the company for revenue growth and margin improvement. In Seating, we are winning new business in thermal comfort and expanding our presence with Chinese domestic customers. Motor Trend recognized the performance improvements we can deliver through our Comfort Flex and Comfort Max seat module solutions. In E Systems, our historic quarter of business wins, particularly in Wiring and the next generation battery disconnect unit sets us up for long term revenue growth of our focused product portfolio.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

The Automotive News PACE Award for our Zone Control Module highlights the innovation our teams are developing for our customers. Extending our leadership in operational excellence through our investments in Idea by Lear is driving margin improvement throughout the business. We have a strong balance sheet with no near term debt maturities that allows us flexibility in our capital allocation strategy and positions us well to navigate tariff related industry headwinds. As we work through challenging industry conditions, we are proactively taking steps to position Lear for future success and we're committed to keeping the investor community updated in the current dynamic environment. I couldn't be more proud to lead the Lear team and I want to thank all our employees for their dedication and hard work.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

And now we'd be happy to take your questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. And our first question today comes from Joe Spak from UBS. Please go ahead with your question.

Joseph Spak
Joseph Spak
Managing Director at UBS Group

Thanks. Good morning, everyone.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Good morning, guess

Joseph Spak
Joseph Spak
Managing Director at UBS Group

first question, have you seen any meaningful changes to production schedules yet? Are you just anticipating this? And the reason I ask is it just seems interesting that the further we get into earnings season here, the more guidance withdrawals we're getting. So I'm wondering if we're seeing some more breaking changes to the schedules?

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Yes. I think we have seen changes announced throughout the last four or five weeks. I wouldn't say that there has any recent uptick in the number of announcements, but it's clearly the environment remains pretty dynamic. And maybe Joe, I'll just take a minute to explain our thought process process on why we decided to withdraw guidance at this point. As a result of having our call a little bit later in cycle, we've had the benefit of hearing from our customers what they're saying on their calls.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

We've seen some positive developments in terms of the cost of tariffs for the industry. And certainly this industry has faced challenges over the last five years from COVID, the chip shortage issue and supply chain disruptions. But I think this is really a very different situation. And as we were thinking about how to guide in this environment, what would be helpful to investors, what we struggled with is the wide range that we would end up guiding to account for all the variability in the production outlook. There's really three variables that remain right now.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

First, how do the end consumers respond to price increases, higher pricing in the market, seems likely to happen. Then how do our customers react to that to those changes? Do they have a preference for market share or do they try and capture some price benefit in the opportunity for their margins associated with that? And then lastly, what additional trade policies are enacted by The U. S.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Or our trading partners as these negotiations evolve. And listening to our customers' earnings calls, could hear the sort of tension in that decision making framework between market share and margins that they're working through. And so given that uncertainty and what their plans are, we thought that we ended up with too wide of a range to be helpful for investors. And so until there's visibility, at least on those first two variables, we're not in a position to provide guidance that would be useful, I think, for investors. Now, we have fairly decent clarity and visibility on the second quarter, but there still are changes coming.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

And we are presenting at an investor conference in the June, June '10 through '11, and we will provide more clear guidance on the second quarter specifically at that event once we see a little bit more visibility on the items I just mentioned.

Joseph Spak
Joseph Spak
Managing Director at UBS Group

Thanks for all that color. As a second question, I just want to make sure I understand, and sorry to sort of go back to tariffs here. But it seems like with the disclosure you laid out on the direct impact, actually Honduras ends up being one of the bigger factors here. Is there a way to get your customers to be the importer of record or get anointed as an approved importer record such that they could claim that 3.75% reimbursement? And then as you think about that particular country exposure and the reimbursement is expected to go down in a year or maybe away in two years, is that where you need to see most of the work done, Ray?

Joseph Spak
Joseph Spak
Managing Director at UBS Group

I know you've made some comments about potentially moving some production around.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Yes. Well, I think to the first point, Joe, yes. We've I think the team has done a remarkable job of presenting all options to our customers. And one of those options is who is going to be the reporter of record as far as location. And so that is an option we have put on and it absolutely is something that we're considering and talking to our customers about.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

And respect to the ability to move parts and manufacturing, I mean, are the things that we're looking at. There it's still a very competitive location for us. And obviously, like Jason mentioned, there's still a lot of work to be done and or there's still work that's going to be done on what that's going to be at the end of the day. And so it's really going come down to what that reciprocal tariff or what that tariff would be on those components in Honduras will look like. And so those discussions are going on with our customer.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

I don't know, Jason, if you want to add a little bit of Yes.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

And our understanding, Joe, on the 3.75% exemption credit, so to speak, is that they that the OEMs, our customers can indicate which of their components can be given that exemption. And so I think a product like wire harnesses has a fairly high likelihood of being a product that would be imported to The U. S. Tariff free, whether we're the importer of record or the customer is.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

I don't think that that necessarily has to shift from us to our customer in order to take advantage of that new rule there. And just to kind of go back to your first comment, in regards to Honduras, yes, it is our most significant exposure. And since I'm sure this is a question that is going to come up as the call progresses, I can address that. Now overall, we see our gross tariff costs at about $200,000,000 And so about half of that is Honduras. And that's because the wire harnesses are on the annex that accompanies the Section two thirty two auto tariffs.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

And so they're subject to the 25% tariff. We think it's highly likely that that tariff rate is adjusted because wire harnesses really don't have a place on that annex in the same way engines, transmissions or other highly technical parts do. It's I think it's kind of misplaced and you've heard customers and others advocate for that change. So as a result of that, you would then revert to the 10% tariff rate, the reciprocal tariff rate that's in place with Honduras. And at a 10% rate, Honduras is still competitive with Mexico.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

And so we think ultimately that's where it ends up, but there's clearly some uncertainty on how long that process takes to get there. The other half of our tariff exposure, the other $100,000,000 for this year, roughly half of that is on components where our customers are the control the sourcing with our suppliers. And so they have direct responsibility for that. They're having negotiations and discussions with those suppliers and that would be passed through whatever the outcome of that negotiation would be passed through from our customer to the supplier. And then so what we're really focused on in terms of the direct exposure is that remaining $50,000,000 roughly 25% of the gross exposure is for products where we are the importer of record and we are we control the sourcing.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

And we've already made tremendous progress in reducing that exposure through design changes and sourcing changes and we will continue to reduce that. And we've had very productive discussions with our customers about recovering the cost of that tariff in the interim.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Yes, I think it's important to mention that we've been very clear with the customer that we expect 100% recovery, if it's directed or indirect on the components. And for the majority or the majority of our customers, they've agreed on 100% of what I'll call directed their source components. And the indirect, I feel very, very confident that we're going get full recovery on a net position.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

I think the team has done a great job of commercializing what our expectation is and we're making really good improvements on that side of it. But I also think that there are alternative solutions that can work to, I think, our advantage with how we can relocate components. I mentioned some of the manufacturing, the strong manufacturing presence we have in The United States and how we can relocate things to The United States in certain areas, around the ones I mentioned with foam and textiles and stampings and those type of components that would work really well here in The U. S. And so I think the teams have done a really nice job.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

And I have confidence because the conversations are going extremely well. I think we've made some very good progress. I think what the team has done with these systems on the wire harness, it shows the level of expectations and the results we expect across the board from all customers.

Joseph Spak
Joseph Spak
Managing Director at UBS Group

Appreciate all the detail guys.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Thanks, Joe.

Operator

Our next question comes from Dan Levy from Barclays. Please go ahead with

Dan Levy
Senior Equity Research Analyst at Barclays Corporate & Investment Bank

Wanted to start with a question on the outlook and I recognize there is uncertainty and you'll provide us with an update. But maybe we could just go back to the original outlook that you provided. And just give us a sense because it feels like you're getting most of the recoveries on the tariffs and you say you expect 100% recoveries. But what is the lower end of your outlook contemplating as far as LVP by region? And maybe you could just talk about maybe some of the pluses and minuses outside of tariffs that we've seen versus the guidance that you provided back in February.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Dan, our February guidance contemplated production down 1% globally and down 2% on a Leer weighted basis. And so I think we had $1,000,000,000 range on revenue. So you could there'd be another 2% roughly decline there beyond that. So let's call it 4% down on a LIR weighted basis. And the other kind of key assumption affecting the top line would have been around the foreign exchange rates.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

We had the euro at $1.04 and the RMB 7 point 3 0 dollars So I think we're going to see some top line improvement as a result of FX. You're going see some revenue as a result of the pass through of tariffs. And then you're going to see some reduction in revenue associated with the volume reductions that are anticipated and some of which have been announced and are taking place here in the second quarter. Just the North America market is probably the biggest question mark. S and P's forecast is for 14,000,000 units, I believe, of production and we were at 15,000,000 in the prior guidance.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

So that's the biggest risk factor if you look at what the external prognosticators are suggesting. And as we think about where the kind of puts and takes are, I think we're looking at Europe. We're looking at vehicles produced in Mexico and Canada. And then we're looking at vehicles produced in Japan and Korea that are imported into The U. S.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

And so the what our customers ultimately decide to do, again, around market share versus margin preservation is going to have a profound impact on the volumes vehicles imported into The U. S. Market and ultimately on our production of vehicles that we supply parts to. And so that's the big variable that's difficult to predict. In terms of the other things we can control, we talked about tariff cost and recoveries.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

We expect full recovery. We don't see that as a particularly large issue. In terms of our cost structure, in general, we are on track to deliver the commitments we made around automation and restructuring savings and our other efficiency program improvements. Certainly don't want to lose sight of the very strong first quarter we had in both business segments. It really increased our confidence in being able to achieve the full year guidance that we provided for net performance, which was 40 basis points in Seating and 80 basis points of margin improvement in E Systems for the net performance.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

We far exceeded that in the first quarter. So the things that we can control remain well on track and maybe a little bit of ahead of where we started the year.

Dan Levy
Senior Equity Research Analyst at Barclays Corporate & Investment Bank

Great. Thank you. And maybe just a follow-up question. And if you could just maybe double click on the pieces that are driving the performance. But broadly, it feels like the tariffs just place an added pressure on both the seating and electrical architecture wire harness businesses which as it was these are tight margin businesses to begin with.

Dan Levy
Senior Equity Research Analyst at Barclays Corporate & Investment Bank

You've laid out a series of all of these strategic actions. How are you starting to see this play into maybe separating yourselves from the pack and taking share? I know you referenced that you won some wards in E Systems.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Well, first of all, it's a great quarter. I think the E Systems team did a remarkable job, not just when we talk about expanding our margins and operational excellence and what they did as far as performance, but the growth side, it was a really good quarter for us. And I think it comes down to a couple of things. One, the performance and how they're performing with a particular OE. I do think that we can't overlook the innovation and capabilities that we've been able to deliver both on the product side and I think equally as important is the operational side.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

It's interesting, we've really strategically looking at how we can change our operational excellence in advanced automation and software development. Some of the things we've mentioned with how we're designing different efficiencies on the plant floor that allows us to be extremely competitive and still get a return above our cost of capital. That's everything we're focused on. And I think those elements that we've been working on for more than ten years are really starting to show the benefits in the operations today. We had a great we really put ourselves out there as far as being able to track us to our investors and show how we're performing from a net performance perspective and the team did a great job.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

But it also shows up in growth because we can quote business where we'd still get a return above our cost of capital as we're introducing new technology innovation on the plant floor. And so I think that's an important message because we've been talking about that for some time and we're seeing the conviction in how we're delivering, not just from a performance standpoint, but from a growth perspective. And so, we absolutely believe that that is something that we can continue to do. It puts us in a great position today and currently as we expand our margins, but more importantly as we're winning new business.

Operator

Great. Thank you. Our next question comes from Emmanuel Rosner from Wolfe Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Emmanuel Rosner
Managing Director - Senior Autos & Auto Technology Analyst at Wolfe Research LLC

Great. Thank you so much. I was actually hoping to follow-up on this on the cost performance, which obviously was quite impressive in the quarter. And so you mentioned an accelerated investment in restructuring. Curious to what extent you could still inflect up the benefit from these actions still this year, especially in case some of these indirect tariff impact come and the volume plays out sort of weaker.

Emmanuel Rosner
Managing Director - Senior Autos & Auto Technology Analyst at Wolfe Research LLC

Do you have any room to offset some of that with accelerated benefits on the net performance side, basically higher than your initial guidance?

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

Yes, that's certainly our goal. And we're looking to increase our restructuring investment this year by between 30,000,000 and 40,000,000 And some of that will produce an immediate benefit to our cost structure. And so there will be some additional net performance that results from that investment in restructuring. Now we are dialing back our capital spending as well by a similar amount. And most of that relates to capacity that we don't need as a result of lower volumes and some discretionary spending.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

But a little bit of it is also on the automation side where you have some longer payback projects that we're going to push out to next year. Emmanuel, what we really did is just kind of took a step back and looked at all investment opportunities that we have across both our capital expenditure program and our restructuring program and force rank those based on payback and sort of reprioritized our investments. And that led to some, again, investment in restructuring and a little lower investment in CapEx, but the net effect of that should be positive for net performance this year.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Yes. I think that's important, Emmanuel, that during this time of uncertainty, our priorities are operational excellence.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

And as Jason mentioned, how we're focused on capital deployment, where we're focused based on returns, how we can accelerate particularly areas of our products manufacturing facilities. The second priority is our balance sheet. We're very disciplined on what we're looking at, how we're spending capital, where we're spending capital, even building some assumptions around changes in volume and how we deploy capital, really getting at potentially even getting at and cutting our capital costs based on what we see relative to volumes and how we're really focused on cash. I mean, even our commercial agreements that we're putting in place are two elements. One is to get 100 recovery, but also to minimize any type of cash impact relative to how we're solving those commercial issues.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

And the two disciplines between operation and commercial are equally weighted as far as how we're really aggressively going after that. And I think the last one is the strategic options, how we're positioned. We're a U. S.-based company, a large U. S.-based company.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

We believe we have some strategic options that we can take advantage of. And I think that's going to play out over a little time as they've got these rebates that they're going to receive and those wear out over three years, how we're going reposition for our customers. But I'll tell you one thing that comes up as we discuss all these with our customers. We learned quite a bit through COVID. We learned quite a bit through the EV collapse with volumes.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

We're really focused on terms and conditions. If we're going to deploy capital, what are the terms and conditions look like relative to how we're going to get returns above our cost of capital based on volume, based on deployment of capital, how we're focused. And so we also look at this as an opportunity to go back and really discuss the terms and conditions relative to our customers, because I think we've learned quite a bit over the last five years and those terms need to change. I mean, particularly around suppliers and making investments for our customers, not just short term, but longer term. So we've really got at this.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

I'm really proud of the team. I tell you that mitigation ideas, innovation ideas, the engineering ideas, things that they've come up with, really, I think, put us in a better position to really get at the things I mentioned as far as priorities within this company right now.

Emmanuel Rosner
Managing Director - Senior Autos & Auto Technology Analyst at Wolfe Research LLC

Yes. Thanks for the color. And then I actually have two quick follow ups. The first one is beyond just the impact on or risk to industry volumes. Do you see any risk from the current uncertainty on backlog or the backlog that you announced last quarter?

Emmanuel Rosner
Managing Director - Senior Autos & Auto Technology Analyst at Wolfe Research LLC

And then specifically, on the balance sheet, obviously, continued commitment in returning excess cash to shareholders. But are you pausing the buyback at all while figuring out what the outlook and free cash flow for the year looks like? Or is it just continuing?

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Yes. Emmanuel, I'll start with the second question first. We are pausing our share repurchases here for a short period of time until there is more visibility on production environment. And we believe that will be brief and we hope to restart that soon, once we have a better understanding of our customers' production plans for, really the second half of the year. In terms of the backlog, I think it's too early to provide an update on the two year backlog we announced, the 2025, '20 '20 '6 backlog.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

But certainly, the award in wire and the other awards in E Systems in general in the quarter will help the longer term growth rate of that business. 150,000,000 of the $750,000,000 of new business awards were conquest awards. So those are market share gains. Those will drive growth for the business longer term. And I think once we sort of get through this wind down of products that we're exiting in E Systems, you'll see a return to the more normalized growth rates we've enjoyed over the last five or six years in that segment.

Emmanuel Rosner
Managing Director - Senior Autos & Auto Technology Analyst at Wolfe Research LLC

Thank you.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

You're welcome.

Operator

Our next question comes from Colin Langan from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead with your question.

Colin Langan
Colin Langan
Automotive & Mobility Analyst at Wells Fargo

Great. Thanks for taking my questions. And congrats on a pretty good margin in the quarter. Just wondering, I think a couple of weeks before the quarter ended, you were talking about a low 4%, you ended at 4.9%. What came in so much better at the end of the quarter to kind of get you so much higher than what you were thinking?

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

Yes, there were really two things that happened. The production held up better than we had anticipated and what we were seeing at that time, particularly in Asia, we saw a very, very strong March, much better than we had expected. And then in addition to that, we did see a little bit of a pull ahead of some of our commercial performance in the Seating segment in particular. And so there's probably 20 basis points of that net performance that we delivered in the first quarter that we had anticipated in the second quarter and beyond. And so those are the two primary factors.

Jason Cardew
Jason Cardew
Senior VP & CFO at Lear

And then just generally speaking, just strong operating performance in both business segments. It's not doesn't often happen that way where you get sort of everyone performing at such a high level simultaneously and that's what we had. We had great performance in both C and E Systems and really across all regions. And so it was just a testament to the strong finish to the quarter for the team more than anything.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

I appreciate the recognition too because I feel the same way.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

I felt really good about the first quarter. Unfortunately, we're like we've talked about the indirect situation around tariffs is kind of the uncertainty that we're faced with right now as an industry. But I think it gives you a good indication. Even during a very tough quarter relative to volatility around production, we can perform well. And so I think it's really a great job by the operation teams, both in Seating and E Systems and how they performed.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

I was really happy with the numbers.

Colin Langan
Colin Langan
Automotive & Mobility Analyst at Wells Fargo

Got it. That's helpful color. And just talking on performance, as I covered a couple of times in the call already. But if I look at the initial full year guide, I think it implied something like 130,000,000 50 five basis points. I believe you've got more than half of that already in Q1.

Colin Langan
Colin Langan
Automotive & Mobility Analyst at Wells Fargo

Is that what you were anticipating? I mean, guess it sounds like from comments earlier that performance is actually coming in stronger. And should we interpret that as that if it wasn't for tariffs, you'd actually be raising guidance today?

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Yes, think that certainly the first quarter came in better than we expected and that could lead to an improved number for the full year, but there's still lots of moving parts that we're managing here. And I think your math is right, more than half of our full year net performance was achieved in the first quarter, or what we had guided to previously. Now part of that is kind of the year over year look at the business. And so the first quarter in E Systems in particular last year was pretty weak. We had very high launch costs.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

We had some efficiency issues in our North America operations, which we talked about throughout last year. Those improved significantly from the first half of last year to the second half of last year. And so the comp gets a little harder in the second half of the year than it is than it was in the for the first half, Colin. So that's also a driver.

Colin Langan
Colin Langan
Automotive & Mobility Analyst at Wells Fargo

I mean, would you have raised guidance if it wasn't for the tariff issue or is that it's just too early to say?

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

That's a theoretical question. Mean, there wasn't this level of volume uncertainty, we certainly wouldn't have been talking about lowering I'll put it this way, we've been very confident in the year. We would been in a good position, especially coming out of that first quarter.

Colin Langan
Colin Langan
Automotive & Mobility Analyst at Wells Fargo

Got it.

Colin Langan
Colin Langan
Automotive & Mobility Analyst at Wells Fargo

All right.

Colin Langan
Colin Langan
Automotive & Mobility Analyst at Wells Fargo

Thanks for taking my questions.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

You're welcome.

Operator

Our next question comes from John Murphy from Bank of America. Please go ahead with your question.

John Murphy
John Murphy
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Good morning, guys. Just a very simple question to start. When you think about doing winding wiring harnesses in Honduras, I just wonder, Ray, if you could walk us through sort of the evolution of how that wound up being in Mexico and then got pushed down to Honduras from a labor costs perspective, but also maybe a labor availability perspective as well?

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Yes. Well, one, okay. So we've done a lot of work, even working with Washington trying to explain wire harnesses in very similar like trim covers. They're very labor intensive, unattractive jobs that I say that, like Jason mentioned, need to get up moved off the annex. But the migration was about labor arbitrage and having enough labor.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

We have facilities that can have anywhere from 5,000 to 6,000 employees in a facility running multiple platforms to be the most efficient for our customers that we ship to. And so the move from Mexico to Honduras was really driven around the continuation of the labor arbitrage. Honduras is a very good location for us. I mean, we have great quality. The absentee is very low.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

The job satisfaction, the work environment, everything is a really, really good location for us. So it's ideal for us. As matter of fact, we talked a little bit previously about even migrating more of our business to Honduras. Obviously, we put that on pause until we get some clarity around what's going to happen. But it's been a move from what was Juarez to Central Mexico down to even further South Of Mexico now to Honduras.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

And so it's worked out extremely well for us in both locations. And that's really how we've moved our wire harness business from Mexico to Honduras.

John Murphy
John Murphy
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. Maybe just a follow-up. When you think about wire harness and other stuff that's done outside The U. S, what's kind of the hurdle bringing back to U. S?

John Murphy
John Murphy
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Is it just labor cost, labor availability? And how much do you think you can automate it? I'm just trying to understand really here. So I mean it kind of gets out there in public a little bit more wildlife.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

No, it's a good question.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Think

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

no, that's it's a good question. And I think the first roadblock would be the labor scarcity, the labor issue of attracting that type of work here in The U. S. It's way I describe it, there are very there's very attractive jobs that are very sophisticated, technical. We do just in time assembly of seats here in The U.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

S. And UAW represented workers, great work. That type of work makes a lot of sense. I think when you get in when you look at a wire harness, it is very labor intensive. The automation is coming.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

It's going to take some time. It's not quite there yet. There's some very challenging aspects of our harness even though we're we've made significant improvements with automation and harnesses is not quite there yet. So I think the roadblocks really are the labor scarcity, the workforce development that'd be required to bring those type of jobs here. I think the attractiveness from a worker's perspective would be extremely low, very tough.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

And the technology just quite isn't there yet to bring and automate a major wire. I mean, harnesses are hundreds of pounds. They're extremely labor intensive as you're doing the taping and the crimping and the assembly of the harness itself. And so those are probably the big roadblocks that I think would be a very tough move to

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

The United States.

John Murphy
John Murphy
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. And then just another question. You highlighted and it was incredibly helpful that the tariff commentary, dollars 1,000,000,000 of parts that are coming across The Atlantic from Europe on European produced vehicles. Some of those might not make it here, it might be fewer.

John Murphy
John Murphy
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

But in reality, there might be market share shifts that occur in The U. S. Market that offset that. So could you kind of just remind us generally what's coming across the pond there? And then also maybe your exposures here in North America because there might be a really good story to market share gains from your domestic automakers as well as a result of that?

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Yes, John, just to clarify, so that's $1,000,000,000 of revenue that's associated with parts we sell to customers that are for vehicles produced in Europe and imported into The U. S. It's got part imports. So the biggest component of that is with Jaguar Land Rover, so Range Rover, Range Rover Sport, Thunder that whole product lineup. And we just saw that they announced that they're restarting shipments into The U.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

S. So they're going to continue participating in this market. And then the VW Group and their luxury brands, Audi and Porsche in particular, and then to a lesser extent Mercedes and Stellantis. And with Mercedes, they've also announced the move of one of their key programs, which we have the seating for in Europe to Tuscaloosa. And so we see over time that we will likely benefit from that business that's relocated from Europe into The U.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

S. As our customers adjust their footprint. And then in terms of who may benefit here in U. S, I don't want to go too far down that path. But I think our largest platform in The U.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

S. Market is the GM full size SUV program that's produced down in Arlington, Texas. But we also have the Ford Explorer. We have business with Hyundai, with BMW, with lots of customers here that have a domestic footprint that could benefit longer term from this tariff regime. So it's hard to say exactly how it's going to play out, but those are some of the highlights of programs that may be impacted.

John Murphy
John Murphy
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

So it's fair to say the uncertainty in the guidance is not all to the downside, it may actually eventually be to the upside, right? It's uncertainty.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Yes, that's right. I think, yes, if you look at the GM full size SUV inventory levels, I think that came out again yesterday or the day before, thirty days on hand. Yes, certainly, it seems like there could be some opportunities as well, and that affected our thought process around not reaffirming guidance.

John Murphy
John Murphy
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. And then just lastly, it sounds like there's some program extensions and stuff that's getting pushed out on wins. Can you just remind us as programs are extended, we're looking at a five to six year program that goes to seven or maybe eight years, whatever it may be, what are the requirements for refurbishing tooling or extending tooling and other plant equipment for another year or two? Are there big capital commitments or is this more of a gravy situation for you?

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

No, it's more of we like that. We like the situation. There's extending programs, usually programs are long in the tooth. We've done a nice job with VAV engineering changes, cost savings. No, we like it.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

And there isn't a tremendous amount of there might be some modification to some capital that we have in place, but there's no significant reinvestment that's required. We can run the current capital that's in place and also gives us an opportunity to reevaluate contracts because they need to extend the contract. So the terms and conditions that are in place need to be extended, which means in some respects, get to sit down and reestablish where you're at.

John Murphy
John Murphy
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. Very helpful. Thanks guys.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Ittai Mikkeli from TD Cowen. Please go ahead with your question.

Itay Michaeli
Equity Analyst at TD Cowen

Great. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Just two quick ones for me. First, I'm going back to Slide eight, you mentioned mix headwinds due to components on high content trims.

Itay Michaeli
Equity Analyst at TD Cowen

Just curious whether you're actually seeing any pressure on trim mix thus far in Q2, both in North America and perhaps globally?

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Yes, Itay, it's something we're anticipating. We haven't seen a lot of it, but there are some specific examples where we have seen this impact. And most notably, things like rear seat entertainment, where there's a component that's imported with a high tariff rate. And so the customer may reconsider their option packages. So we lose that content if that screen is on the back of the seat, for example, things like that.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

We haven't seen significant changes in features generally, but we wouldn't be surprised to see that as part of the response to customers managing higher costs. And so that's that was the reason we included that on the slide. As part of our mitigation plans, we're giving our customers alternative options. So we have some insight, given the options we're giving them to mitigate tariff costs or other related costs or lack of components. And so I think it's just more our insight of what we're doing and how we're communicating with our customers.

Itay Michaeli
Equity Analyst at TD Cowen

That's very helpful. And a quick follow-up on the new business awards in the quarter. Congrats on the progress. How should we think about the timing of when these awards flow into revenue? Do some of these actually launch as early as 2027?

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Most of it is in 2028. I think there may be a little bit at the tail end of 2027, but I think it's mostly 2028.

Itay Michaeli
Equity Analyst at TD Cowen

Great. That's very helpful. Thank

Itay Michaeli
Equity Analyst at TD Cowen

you.

Operator

And

Operator

ladies and gentlemen, with that, we'll be wrapping up today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Ray Scott for any closing remarks.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

Yes. Thank you. And I'd like to thank everyone for participating in the call today. I'd also like to thank the Lear employees that are on the call. You guys did a great job in the first quarter.

Ray Scott
Ray Scott
President, CEO & Director at Lear

I couldn't be more proud of the work that you're doing and exceptional job on what we're doing as far as the organization and really protecting the company with tariffs and costs and giving our customers options to mitigate their own costs. And so I appreciate all the hard work. So proud of the work that you've done and thank you.

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, with that, we'll conclude today's conference call and presentation. We do thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.

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Key Takeaways

  • Learn reported first-quarter revenue of $5.6 billion, core operating earnings of $270 million and an operating margin of 4.9%, with adjusted EPS of $3.12 and a $128 million cash use in the quarter.
  • Operating margins improved in both Seating and E Systems, driven by historic levels of positive net performance, efficiency gains from automation and restructuring and savings from Idea by Lear initiatives.
  • Lear won over $750 million in new E Systems awards—the highest in a decade—and secured multiple global Seating programs including ComfortFlex modules with Lucid, Volvo, Honda and key Chinese automakers, plus a JV consolidation adding ~$70 million of 2025 revenue.
  • The company has $200 million of gross tariff exposure (half in Honduras) but has achieved 94% USMCA compliance, is negotiating 100% cost recovery with customers and exploring sourcing, design and automation changes to mitigate direct and indirect trade risks.
  • Due to ongoing trade-policy and production uncertainties, Lear has withdrawn its 2025 full-year guidance and temporarily paused its share repurchase program, while remaining confident in delivering its net-performance targets and preserving financial flexibility.
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