NYSE:PACK Ranpak Q1 2025 Earnings Report $3.40 -0.01 (-0.15%) Closing price 05/23/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$3.58 +0.18 (+5.29%) As of 05/23/2025 07:53 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Ranpak EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.13Consensus EPS -$0.04Beat/MissMissed by -$0.09One Year Ago EPS-$0.10Ranpak Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$91.20 millionExpected Revenue$90.56 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$640.00 thousandYoY Revenue Growth+6.90%Ranpak Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/6/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateTuesday, May 6, 2025Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsRanpak's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, August 7, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Ranpak Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 6, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Randpak Holdings Corp. First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. All participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. Operator00:00:21I would now like to turn the call over to Sarah Horvath, General Counsel. Please go ahead. Sara HorvathExecutive VP, Chief Legal & HR Officer at Ranpak00:00:27Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that we will discuss forward looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those forward looking statements as a result of various factors, including those discussed in our press release and the risk factors identified in our Form 10 ks and our other filings filed with the SEC. Some of the statements and responses to your questions in this conference call may include forward looking statements that are subject to future events and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. Rampak assumes no obligation and does not intend to update any such forward looking statements. Sara HorvathExecutive VP, Chief Legal & HR Officer at Ranpak00:01:12You should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements, all of which speak to the company only as of today. The earnings release we issued this morning and the presentation for today's call are posted on the Investor Relations section of our website. A copy of the release has been included in a Form eight ks that we submitted to the SEC before this call. We will also make a replay of this conference call available via webcast on the company website. For financial information that is presented on a non GAAP basis, we have included reconciliations to the comparable GAAP information. Sara HorvathExecutive VP, Chief Legal & HR Officer at Ranpak00:01:46Please refer to the table and slide presentation accompanying today's earnings release. Lastly, we'll be filing our 10 Q with the SEC for the period ending 03/31/2025. The 10 Q will be available through the SEC or on the Investor Relations section of our website. With me today, I have Omar Asili, our Chairman and CEO and Bill Drew, our CFO. Omar will summarize our first quarter results, and Bill will provide additional detail on the financial results before we open up the call for questions. Sara HorvathExecutive VP, Chief Legal & HR Officer at Ranpak00:02:19With that, I'll turn the call over to Omar. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:02:23Thank you, Sarah, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Today, I'll start by discussing the first quarter, which at this point feels a lot less relevant given everything that has transpired over the past six weeks. I will also discuss the impacts global trade discussions are having on our business and what we are doing to adapt to the current environment. Generally speaking, the diversity of our business geographically and across end users as well as strong momentum with enterprise accounts gives me a great deal of comfort that we're in a solid position to weather the likely disruptions and slower near term outlook as the trade discussions ripple throughout global economies. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:03:05Regarding our results, our volume momentum continued as we began 2025 with our seventh quarter in a row of volume growth. Consolidated net revenue increased 8.8% on a constant currency basis for the quarter, including a 0.9% non cash headwind from the Amazon warrants, driven by 12% volume growth as e commerce activity drove outsized growth in North America. Our North America business continued its strong growth and was the key driver of top line performance with sales up 33 and volumes up more than 40% over Q1 of twenty twenty four. Similar to the fourth quarter, we saw broad based top line strength in Q1 as enterprise accounts contributed excellent growth consistent with what we saw in 2024. And end users in our distribution channel experienced increased demand as well. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:04:00Our team continues to execute well with the ramp up of these larger accounts, and we believe that has well positioned us to continue to grow with these critical customers in 2025. We're deepening relationships with the biggest players in e commerce and retail, setting us up well for further growth in 2025 in North America. Of course, our future growth potential here is subject to those macro factors that I just mentioned. Europe and Asia Pacific started off the first two months of the year up slightly in terms of volume, but experienced a weaker than expected March, which led to a challenged top line and volume contribution for the quarter. As the quarter went on, the environment in Europe deteriorated with activity slowing meaningfully in March. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:04:46April saw stabilization as volumes were up versus the prior year, but overall activity in Europe does feel worse compared to where we started the year. Automation started the year up slightly on a constant currency basis versus 2024 as some projects moved from Q1 to Q2 due to customer delays, but overall, we feel very good about our ability to grow this business meaningfully and in line with our previously shared expectations of 50% growth. Our differentiated solutions and expected strong payback profile for high volume customers makes for a strong value proposition. On a constant currency basis, adjusted EBITDA declined 7.8% for the quarter, including a non cash impact of the Amazon warrants, which contributed a 4.2% headwind to our reported figures. Excluding the impact of the Amazon warrants, adjusted EBITDA declined 3.6% year over year. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:05:45Overall profitability was negatively impacted by increased input costs year over year and lower sales volume in Europe and Asia Pacific as well as negative mix impact of outsized contribution of enterprise accounts in North America and temporary production inefficiencies. The input cost environment continues to vary by geography. In The U. S, pricing has moved up given the greater demand in the market for kraft paper, which became increasingly tight in the fourth quarter and led to some mill disruptions that lasted into Q1. Challenges with longer lead times at the mills led to short term inefficiencies in areas like freight and logistics. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:06:25And as a result, we invested in more inventory in the first quarter to protect against further disruption. We have taken price in the second quarter in order to offset some of this increase and improve our margin profile and utilize longer lead times to enhance our planning and run time, which will benefit margin beginning in Q2 as well. In Europe, the energy markets remain volatile, but pricing for Dutch nat gas is down roughly 40% from its February peak. Our paper pricing for the first two quarters is consistent with Q4 twenty twenty four, but is up slightly year over year. We are seeing some mills look to raise pricing for the back half of twenty twenty five, but we are taking steps to mitigate the impact through greater raw material purchases in the second quarter. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:07:13Overall though, in Europe and in Asia Pacific, we believe we are well positioned to maintain our attractive margin profile we clawed back post COVID. We'll take you through the tariff impact, what we're seeing and steps we are taking to improve our financial profile in this environment after Bill's remarks. To summarize, given the operating environment uncertainty, we are tightly managing our business in the near term, while maintaining focus on the long term health and potential of our company. Our focus is on driving volumes and winning share, reducing our structural costs and maximizing cash. We have moved quickly to address areas of inefficiency and to reduce costs to better align our cost structure with the current outlook. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:07:56With that, here's Bill with more info on the quarter. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:08:01Thank you, Omar. In the deck, you'll see a summary of some of our key performance indicators. We'll also be filing our 10 Q, which provides further information on Rampak's operating results. Overall net revenue for the company in the first quarter increased 8.8% year over year on a constant currency basis, driven by exceptional volume growth in North America, offset by top line headwinds in Europe and APAC. For the quarter in the Europe and APAC Reporting Division, combined revenue decreased 6% on a constant currency basis, driven by lower PTS volumes in March and timing of automation projects compared to the prior year. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:08:36Automation sales in EMEA were in line with expectations and we expect to achieve meaningful automation growth in the region in 2025. North America posted another excellent net revenue quarter driven by 45% PPS volume growth, which led to net revenue growth of 33.5% for the quarter. The momentum in North America enterprise accounts remains excellent as our execution continues to deliver strong results in PPS, and we believe we have the potential for substantial automation growth in North America in the second half of the year. Gross profit declined 2.5% in the quarter on a constant currency basis as lower volumes in Europe and APAC, combined with higher input costs, drove a 6% decline in gross profit in the region and unfavorable mix and inefficiencies in North America contributed to a lower overall margin profile for NOAM. As Omar mentioned, we took action in order to claw back input cost headwind in North America in the second quarter and believe the inefficiencies due to paper market lead time disruption will be resolved in Q2. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:09:38Overall, we believe we can improve the gross margin profile as we get more efficient with our operations and our cost reduction actions take hold. SG and A, excluding RSU expense of $28,900,000 was up 0.4% versus prior year. We've chosen to defer no spend until conditions improve and have identified structural cost reductions of $8,000,000 which we are implementing to improve our financial profile. Lower gross profit from EMEA and APAC volume decline and slightly higher G and A drove a decline in adjusted EBITDA of 7.8% in the quarter on a constant currency basis. This reflects a non cash impact of $800,000 or 4.2% from the reporting impact of the Amazon warrants. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:10:21Excluding the impact of warrants, adjusted EBITDA would have declined 3.6%. Moving to the balance sheet and liquidity. We completed the first quarter with a strong liquidity position and recently refinanced credit facility. We had a cash balance of $65,500,000 and no drawings on our revolving credit facility, bringing our reported net leverage to 4.3 times on an LTM basis and 3.9 times according to our bank leverage ratio. Since the start of the year, we invested in more than $10,000,000 of additional paper inventory to reduce the impact from the lead times and potential disruptions and ensure we can satisfy our customers' demand, particularly as the large customers ramp up. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:10:58As the year progresses and we get more comfort in the operating environment, we expect to work this inventory level down. Our credit facility is all USD, so we utilize cross currency swaps to hedge $210,000,000 of our capital structure. These swaps reduce our USD exposure with euro exposure, reducing our currency risk as it relates to debt service and also enabling us to save on interest expense by swapping our SOFR exposure with Euribor, saving us roughly 130 basis points on the hedged portion annually. We generate more than half of revenue and adjusted EBITDA in Europe and APAC. So to the extent the euro continues to rise against the dollar, our profits and cash generated there can be a powerful tool to help us delever. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:11:39Our CapEx for the quarter was $7,500,000 in line with our expectations and largely related to PPS converter spend. Capital expenditures are the area most directly impacted by the evolving tariff landscape. Our spend on converters for use in Europe and APAC is not impacted, but the converters we purchase and build for The U. S. Market rely on parts and units sourced from China and other Asia Pacific countries. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:12:01We're closely evaluating our spending plans in light of recent developments and focusing our efforts on minimizing the impact through alternative sourcing and an even greater focus on refabrication and refurbishment of older converters in the field. Again, while the environment around this is obviously uncertain, from a paper sourcing perspective, we expect minimal impact as we source locally in our production areas. One final area to mention is that this is the first quarter in which we see the impact of the Amazon warrants flow through. Again, as you see us report going forward, there'll be some noise related to the revenue associated with Amazon as the value of the warrants are recognized. That means each period, there'll be a noncash decrease to our reported revenue figures, which will flow down through the income statement to gross profit, adjusted EBITDA and net income. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:12:47In the first quarter, the impact of this was $800,000 which impacted our sales comparisons by 0.9% and adjusted EBITDA by 4.2%. In our earnings release, when we file our 10 Q, you will see the impact of this clearly in the statement of cash flows, where it gets added back into the cash flow from operations as well as in the footnotes, where we'll break out the value for the period. When evaluating our performance, we recommend also looking at our income statement figures on an as adjusted basis by adding those revenue offsets in to understand our performance. With that, I'll turn it to Omar. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:13:20Thank you, Bill. Now to come back to what we are seeing on the ground in the 50 plus countries we operate in and what we are doing to improve our position. To provide some clarity on the impact of tariffs, I'd like to point out we have a diverse global business with more than 50% of our net revenue generated in regions where our cost of goods sold and capital expenditures are not directly impacted by tariffs outside of what it does to business and consumer confidence. Business in Europe and APAC reporting unit is conducted largely in euros, which has appreciated meaningfully against the dollar, providing us with a benefit against our USD term loan. We are in cash generation mode in these regions to best position ourselves to benefit from the stronger euro currency. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:14:07In The U. S, the impact of tariffs is largest to our capital expenditures of our PPS converters, some of which are purchased from manufacturers in China or in the case of machines we assemble and manufacture ourselves in North America, contain parts and components from China and other Asian countries. We're taking steps to minimize the potential impact of these tariffs by evaluating alternative parts and global suppliers as well as stepping up our efforts to refabricate and refurbish existing machines in our fleet to reduce cost. At this time, we are focused on minimizing our converter spend by getting units back from the field and refurbishing them to minimize spend. In automation, our box customization equipment is currently made in Europe and shipped to The U. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:14:53S. And thus will be subject to the European tariff rate. The majority of parts used to assemble those machines are European as well, so we do not have much exposure to tariffs on Asian countries for our box customization solutions. We are focused on cost out and efficiencies to minimize the impact to our customers and believe that the value proposition of our equipment to our customers remains extremely compelling even with the current additional tariffs. We believe this could also provide an opportunity for us to take share versus the more expensive three-dimensional box customization technologies, which is more expensive and is also manufactured in Europe. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:15:35Our automated dunnage insertion solutions and decision towers are assembled in The U. S. With some parts coming from Asian countries that are currently in the ninety day reprieve window. At this point, we do not expect the tariffs to meaningfully impact demand for our solutions, given the strong performance and payback, which is becoming even more critical in this environment. As Bill pointed out, our largest input cost, which is kraft paper, is not currently impacted by tariffs as we source paper locally for use in our different regions. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:16:08Given the operating environment uncertainty, we are tightly managing our business in the near term, while maintaining focus on the long term health and potential of our company. Our focus is on driving volumes and winning market share, reducing our structural costs and maximizing cash. We have a world class platform and a strong momentum in many areas of the business. We are thankful for the investments we have made and feel like they position us well to continue to drive the business forward even in this challenging environment. Thank you all again. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:16:43At this point, we'd like to open the line up for questions. Operator? Operator00:16:49Thank Our first question comes from Greg Palm from Craig Hallum. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:17:11Yes, thanks. This is Danny Egerich on for Greg today. I appreciate you taking the questions. Hoping to kind of dig in a little more on the geographies. Obviously, it sounds like North America was good in the quarter and continues to be so. Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:17:27But maybe a little more color on what exactly you saw in March in kind of the EMEA, APAC regions and now that you've seen some stabilization here in April, maybe what your confidence level is in the region, I guess, kind of in the months ahead? Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:17:45Sure. Yeah. Good morning, Danny. So just going geographically, as you outlined, North America is very robust, continues to sort of exhibit a very strong funnel of growth and great trial activity for us. And a lot of it is driven by the large enterprise accounts. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:18:05And we frankly see that continuing for the rest of the year. In Europe, let me take that first before Asia Pacific. I would say Southern Europe feels stronger than Northern Europe for our business. The Nordic region was a little bit weaker. And then in Central Germany was a bit weaker as as consumers and and frankly, CEOs and companies were a little bit more cautious. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:18:36So we saw a little bit of softness there and we saw a bit more strength in the southern part of the continent. In April, we saw some good stabilization. We'll see how things go from here. Frankly, it's very tough to assess where Europe is going. On the one hand, with some of the legislations that are happening and stimulus in Germany and some of the discussion around defense industry, etcetera, we see some potential for a pickup in activity. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:19:11On the other hand, I know tariffs are obviously weighing on them and weighing on consumer sentiment. So we continue to monitor things very closely in Europe. In Asia Pacific, it's obviously a very broad region and there's a lot of varying sort of performance. The strongest region for us or country is Japan, which continues to exhibit quite a bit of momentum and we're excited about what we're seeing there. In Southeast Asia, sorry, it's a little bit more mixed. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:19:43And then Australia is also a little bit more mixed. But our expectation for the rest of the year is quite constructive sort of on Japan. If you summarize for our business, you basically have overall a very strong North America market for now. You have a pretty decent level of activity overall in APAC driven by Japan. And then Europe is the area that is exhibiting some softness that we're watching more closely. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:20:11And then if you overlay that with our expectations of growth in automation that we think will deliver outsized numbers this year, we believe that overall the growth picture for us will continue to be robust. And frankly, this is our seventh quarter in a row of showing decent volume growth. And in almost five of those seven quarters our volume growth was double digit or north of 10%. And we think that will continue for the rest of the year. Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:20:45Okay, great. That's really helpful. And then you mentioned kind of the automation in there. I was hoping to kind of maybe hit on some of the push outs you saw from Q1 to Q2. So do we expect those to all hit in Q2 now? Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:21:01Or is there any risk that, that continues to push out just based on what we're seeing in the macro? I know you kind of said you're still confident in that 50% growth rate, but just kind of seeing how you're thinking about that. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:21:13Sure. Yes. No, that's a great question because obviously automation is a big driver of growth and a big area of emphasis and investment for us. I would say we entered the year feeling very, very bullish. In automation, I will tell you, because some of these projects are sizable, it's very tough to be precise that something is going to be signed before a particular quarter. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:21:38So, you know, it's very possible that instead of signing something by March, it may slip to to April just given the nature of the integration and the documentation it takes to do to do automation projects. So I'm less worried about a shift from one quarter to another per se as long as we are winning these projects. So that's point one. Point two, what gives me a lot of confidence, Danny, is we are working with some new accounts, but more importantly, we're working with existing accounts about more and more installations and more equipment. And from everything I'm seeing after all the announcements and the uncertainty about tariffs, these projects continue and continue at a very good pace. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:22:24So I'm confident in the 50% plus for the year. Just given the visibility I have and the funnel I'm seeing and some of these deals that we're trying to sign, I think we're going to sign a lot of them in Q2, because some of them that slipped from the end of Q1, they continue to sort of move at a good pace and some of them already signed in this quarter. So I feel with many of our customers that require big automation needs, things are on track. Now let me just interject here a little bit about the macro environment. Because obviously, with the announcement around tariffs, we all worried here, that going to delay some automation projects? Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:23:06Is that going to delay CapEx? How our customer is going to react? And I'm going to simplify and tell you things fall into two buckets. The large accounts and the large players in e commerce, in retail, etcetera, and some even in industrial, we see them pushing forward on automation. If the ROI is there, if the payback is there, the feedback they've given us is these projects are very important and they're not going to delay them because of tariffs. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:23:34In particular, if these projects come with savings around labor, there is a big concern other than tariffs out there that we're seeing around the border policy, migration policy, etcetera, and what that may mean for warehouse workers, what that may mean for labor and tightness of labor market. So we're actually quite enthusiastic about what we're seeing on that front. So that's on the one hand the bullish side of what we're seeing in automation post the tariff discussion. On the other hand, are some companies, think apparel, maybe think footwear, etcetera, some companies that are hit pretty hard around the tariffs and a lot of their product maybe comes from China, those companies are deferring automation projects. But that is not a huge part of the universe of companies that we tackle. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:24:24So if you put it all together, we remain very confident in sort of our growth trajectory in automation. Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:24:33Okay. Appreciate that. Maybe if I could just sneak in one last quick one on margins. Obviously, you came in a little bit light this quarter. You you kind of gave the factors that that played into that. Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:24:44But now as you kind of initiate some of these pricing and and, you know, cost management initiatives, how should we think about, you know, the benefits of those those things flowing through, Q2 and in the coming quarters? How should we think about gross margin trajectory? Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:25:03Sure. I'll let Bill take that. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:25:05Sure. Thanks, Danny. So as far William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:25:07as the gross margin outlook, right, in the prepared remarks, we had helped fund some of the actions that we're taking to improve our margin profile, right? So we're taking price. We're doing some operational initiatives, taking cost out right across the board. So we do expect gross margin to improve from Q1 to Q2 with the bulk of the majority of the improvement coming Q3, Q4, right, as some of these cost initiatives take hold. But we would expect you to see a step up of a few points from Q1 to Q2 and then again into Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:25:43Our Operator00:25:48next question comes from Kieran McCabe from Cantor Fitzgerald. Analyst00:25:54Hi, guys. This is Kieran on for Troy Jensen. Just a follow-up to Analyst00:25:58that last question. Maybe could you provide any kind of detail on the cost reduction actions you're taking as it just operating more efficiently? And any kind Analyst00:26:08of details you could provide on that? Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:26:11Yes. Sure. I'll start here, then I'll turn it over to Bill maybe for a bit more detail. So a couple of things. If you look at Q1 and a little bit Q4 of last year, some of our suppliers just like us frankly were a bit surprised with some of the growth in North America and some mills ran into some operational issues getting us paper on time frankly, and unrelated to even some of the volume trends. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:26:40Some of them had some equipment issues and maintenance issues that limited their ability to produce in time and in full for us. So that meant, in particular this quarter and a little bit in the prior quarter, we were buying product in the spot market. We were trying to sort of make sure we have enough inventory to sell to our customers. And when you do that last minute, clearly that came with some inefficiencies, not just in the cost of the product, but in adjacent costs like warehousing and freight and all that. So that impacted margins quite a bit. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:27:17And part of the initiatives that you're seeing us do right now is better planning, better forecasting and frankly that's already starting to have an impact in this quarter. And as Bill said, we think that will improve in the next quarter. So some operational efficiencies and cost outs around freight warehousing should help. We are also looking at the organization and looking at the team and where we have some redundancies etcetera. We're being very prudent in reducing costs and spend there. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:27:53And then in automation, we're also investing quite a bit in some operational efficiencies, frankly driven by scale. So one of the things that we're doing is as we ramp up and win more and more accounts and with some of that scale, we are becoming a more and better efficient operator and helping margin that way. So these are some of the cost initiatives that we're embarking upon. And then maybe Bill can add some color. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:28:22Sure. So I mean roughly half or the bulk of it, right, would come through headcount. There's just certain areas where as we make some of these efficiencies, just wouldn't be required anymore. So we'll be able to take that structural cost out. As Omar mentioned, freight and logistics is a key piece that we've been doing a lot of work on, moving product between our different facilities. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:28:45So there's good opportunity there to take cost out outside storage, right, or certain things as we work down this paper inventory, which we're well situated with at the moment, will come into effect. And then other just areas that we're just being extremely tight on given the environment is discretionary spend. So things that are nice to have, not need to have at the moment are just being put on pause, and we'll evaluate as the year progresses. Analyst00:29:09Perfect. Thank you so much. Operator00:29:12We have no further questions in queue. I'll turn the call back over to Bill Drew for closing remarks. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:29:19Great. Thank you, Julianne, and thank William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:29:21you all for joining us today. We'll see you next quarter. Operator00:29:24This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesSara HorvathExecutive VP, Chief Legal & HR OfficerWilliam DrewEVP & CFOAnalystsOmar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at RanpakDanny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLCAnalystPowered by Key Takeaways Randpak delivered its seventh consecutive quarter of volume growth, with consolidated net revenue up 8.8% on a constant currency basis and North America sales soaring 33.5% (volumes +45%) driven by e-commerce and enterprise account momentum. Europe and Asia Pacific underperformed in March after slight gains early in Q1, leading to a 6% constant-currency revenue decline for EMEA/APAC, though April volumes stabilized and management remains watchful amid macro uncertainties. The automation segment saw modest Q1 growth with some project timing shifts into Q2, yet the company reaffirms its target of ~50% automation revenue growth for 2025, backed by strong demand from large enterprise customers and a healthy project funnel. Adjusted EBITDA fell 7.8% year-over-year (3.6% ex-Amazon warrants) due to higher input costs, regional volume shortfalls, and mix-related production inefficiencies; pricing actions and operational cost-out initiatives are expected to drive gross margin improvements beginning in Q2. Randpak is mitigating U.S. tariff exposure on PPS converters by diversifying suppliers, refurbishing existing equipment, and sourcing kraft paper locally, while maintaining a strong liquidity position of $65.5 million cash and a refinanced credit facility. AI Generated. 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The company offers protective packaging solutions, such as void-fill protective systems that convert paper to fill empty spaces in secondary packages and protect objects under the FillPak brand; cushioning protective systems, which convert paper into cushioning pads under the PadPak brand; and wrapping protective systems that create pads or paper mesh to wrap and protect fragile items, as well as to line boxes and provide separation when shipping various objects under the WrapPak, Geami, and ReadyRoll brands, as well as cold chain products, which are used to provide insulation for goods. It also offers end-of-line packaging automation products, which help end users automate the void filling and box closure processes after product packing is complete. The company sells its products to end users primarily through a distributor network, and directly to select end-users. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Randpak Holdings Corp. First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. All participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. Operator00:00:21I would now like to turn the call over to Sarah Horvath, General Counsel. Please go ahead. Sara HorvathExecutive VP, Chief Legal & HR Officer at Ranpak00:00:27Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that we will discuss forward looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those forward looking statements as a result of various factors, including those discussed in our press release and the risk factors identified in our Form 10 ks and our other filings filed with the SEC. Some of the statements and responses to your questions in this conference call may include forward looking statements that are subject to future events and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. Rampak assumes no obligation and does not intend to update any such forward looking statements. Sara HorvathExecutive VP, Chief Legal & HR Officer at Ranpak00:01:12You should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements, all of which speak to the company only as of today. The earnings release we issued this morning and the presentation for today's call are posted on the Investor Relations section of our website. A copy of the release has been included in a Form eight ks that we submitted to the SEC before this call. We will also make a replay of this conference call available via webcast on the company website. For financial information that is presented on a non GAAP basis, we have included reconciliations to the comparable GAAP information. Sara HorvathExecutive VP, Chief Legal & HR Officer at Ranpak00:01:46Please refer to the table and slide presentation accompanying today's earnings release. Lastly, we'll be filing our 10 Q with the SEC for the period ending 03/31/2025. The 10 Q will be available through the SEC or on the Investor Relations section of our website. With me today, I have Omar Asili, our Chairman and CEO and Bill Drew, our CFO. Omar will summarize our first quarter results, and Bill will provide additional detail on the financial results before we open up the call for questions. Sara HorvathExecutive VP, Chief Legal & HR Officer at Ranpak00:02:19With that, I'll turn the call over to Omar. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:02:23Thank you, Sarah, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Today, I'll start by discussing the first quarter, which at this point feels a lot less relevant given everything that has transpired over the past six weeks. I will also discuss the impacts global trade discussions are having on our business and what we are doing to adapt to the current environment. Generally speaking, the diversity of our business geographically and across end users as well as strong momentum with enterprise accounts gives me a great deal of comfort that we're in a solid position to weather the likely disruptions and slower near term outlook as the trade discussions ripple throughout global economies. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:03:05Regarding our results, our volume momentum continued as we began 2025 with our seventh quarter in a row of volume growth. Consolidated net revenue increased 8.8% on a constant currency basis for the quarter, including a 0.9% non cash headwind from the Amazon warrants, driven by 12% volume growth as e commerce activity drove outsized growth in North America. Our North America business continued its strong growth and was the key driver of top line performance with sales up 33 and volumes up more than 40% over Q1 of twenty twenty four. Similar to the fourth quarter, we saw broad based top line strength in Q1 as enterprise accounts contributed excellent growth consistent with what we saw in 2024. And end users in our distribution channel experienced increased demand as well. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:04:00Our team continues to execute well with the ramp up of these larger accounts, and we believe that has well positioned us to continue to grow with these critical customers in 2025. We're deepening relationships with the biggest players in e commerce and retail, setting us up well for further growth in 2025 in North America. Of course, our future growth potential here is subject to those macro factors that I just mentioned. Europe and Asia Pacific started off the first two months of the year up slightly in terms of volume, but experienced a weaker than expected March, which led to a challenged top line and volume contribution for the quarter. As the quarter went on, the environment in Europe deteriorated with activity slowing meaningfully in March. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:04:46April saw stabilization as volumes were up versus the prior year, but overall activity in Europe does feel worse compared to where we started the year. Automation started the year up slightly on a constant currency basis versus 2024 as some projects moved from Q1 to Q2 due to customer delays, but overall, we feel very good about our ability to grow this business meaningfully and in line with our previously shared expectations of 50% growth. Our differentiated solutions and expected strong payback profile for high volume customers makes for a strong value proposition. On a constant currency basis, adjusted EBITDA declined 7.8% for the quarter, including a non cash impact of the Amazon warrants, which contributed a 4.2% headwind to our reported figures. Excluding the impact of the Amazon warrants, adjusted EBITDA declined 3.6% year over year. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:05:45Overall profitability was negatively impacted by increased input costs year over year and lower sales volume in Europe and Asia Pacific as well as negative mix impact of outsized contribution of enterprise accounts in North America and temporary production inefficiencies. The input cost environment continues to vary by geography. In The U. S, pricing has moved up given the greater demand in the market for kraft paper, which became increasingly tight in the fourth quarter and led to some mill disruptions that lasted into Q1. Challenges with longer lead times at the mills led to short term inefficiencies in areas like freight and logistics. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:06:25And as a result, we invested in more inventory in the first quarter to protect against further disruption. We have taken price in the second quarter in order to offset some of this increase and improve our margin profile and utilize longer lead times to enhance our planning and run time, which will benefit margin beginning in Q2 as well. In Europe, the energy markets remain volatile, but pricing for Dutch nat gas is down roughly 40% from its February peak. Our paper pricing for the first two quarters is consistent with Q4 twenty twenty four, but is up slightly year over year. We are seeing some mills look to raise pricing for the back half of twenty twenty five, but we are taking steps to mitigate the impact through greater raw material purchases in the second quarter. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:07:13Overall though, in Europe and in Asia Pacific, we believe we are well positioned to maintain our attractive margin profile we clawed back post COVID. We'll take you through the tariff impact, what we're seeing and steps we are taking to improve our financial profile in this environment after Bill's remarks. To summarize, given the operating environment uncertainty, we are tightly managing our business in the near term, while maintaining focus on the long term health and potential of our company. Our focus is on driving volumes and winning share, reducing our structural costs and maximizing cash. We have moved quickly to address areas of inefficiency and to reduce costs to better align our cost structure with the current outlook. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:07:56With that, here's Bill with more info on the quarter. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:08:01Thank you, Omar. In the deck, you'll see a summary of some of our key performance indicators. We'll also be filing our 10 Q, which provides further information on Rampak's operating results. Overall net revenue for the company in the first quarter increased 8.8% year over year on a constant currency basis, driven by exceptional volume growth in North America, offset by top line headwinds in Europe and APAC. For the quarter in the Europe and APAC Reporting Division, combined revenue decreased 6% on a constant currency basis, driven by lower PTS volumes in March and timing of automation projects compared to the prior year. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:08:36Automation sales in EMEA were in line with expectations and we expect to achieve meaningful automation growth in the region in 2025. North America posted another excellent net revenue quarter driven by 45% PPS volume growth, which led to net revenue growth of 33.5% for the quarter. The momentum in North America enterprise accounts remains excellent as our execution continues to deliver strong results in PPS, and we believe we have the potential for substantial automation growth in North America in the second half of the year. Gross profit declined 2.5% in the quarter on a constant currency basis as lower volumes in Europe and APAC, combined with higher input costs, drove a 6% decline in gross profit in the region and unfavorable mix and inefficiencies in North America contributed to a lower overall margin profile for NOAM. As Omar mentioned, we took action in order to claw back input cost headwind in North America in the second quarter and believe the inefficiencies due to paper market lead time disruption will be resolved in Q2. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:09:38Overall, we believe we can improve the gross margin profile as we get more efficient with our operations and our cost reduction actions take hold. SG and A, excluding RSU expense of $28,900,000 was up 0.4% versus prior year. We've chosen to defer no spend until conditions improve and have identified structural cost reductions of $8,000,000 which we are implementing to improve our financial profile. Lower gross profit from EMEA and APAC volume decline and slightly higher G and A drove a decline in adjusted EBITDA of 7.8% in the quarter on a constant currency basis. This reflects a non cash impact of $800,000 or 4.2% from the reporting impact of the Amazon warrants. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:10:21Excluding the impact of warrants, adjusted EBITDA would have declined 3.6%. Moving to the balance sheet and liquidity. We completed the first quarter with a strong liquidity position and recently refinanced credit facility. We had a cash balance of $65,500,000 and no drawings on our revolving credit facility, bringing our reported net leverage to 4.3 times on an LTM basis and 3.9 times according to our bank leverage ratio. Since the start of the year, we invested in more than $10,000,000 of additional paper inventory to reduce the impact from the lead times and potential disruptions and ensure we can satisfy our customers' demand, particularly as the large customers ramp up. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:10:58As the year progresses and we get more comfort in the operating environment, we expect to work this inventory level down. Our credit facility is all USD, so we utilize cross currency swaps to hedge $210,000,000 of our capital structure. These swaps reduce our USD exposure with euro exposure, reducing our currency risk as it relates to debt service and also enabling us to save on interest expense by swapping our SOFR exposure with Euribor, saving us roughly 130 basis points on the hedged portion annually. We generate more than half of revenue and adjusted EBITDA in Europe and APAC. So to the extent the euro continues to rise against the dollar, our profits and cash generated there can be a powerful tool to help us delever. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:11:39Our CapEx for the quarter was $7,500,000 in line with our expectations and largely related to PPS converter spend. Capital expenditures are the area most directly impacted by the evolving tariff landscape. Our spend on converters for use in Europe and APAC is not impacted, but the converters we purchase and build for The U. S. Market rely on parts and units sourced from China and other Asia Pacific countries. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:12:01We're closely evaluating our spending plans in light of recent developments and focusing our efforts on minimizing the impact through alternative sourcing and an even greater focus on refabrication and refurbishment of older converters in the field. Again, while the environment around this is obviously uncertain, from a paper sourcing perspective, we expect minimal impact as we source locally in our production areas. One final area to mention is that this is the first quarter in which we see the impact of the Amazon warrants flow through. Again, as you see us report going forward, there'll be some noise related to the revenue associated with Amazon as the value of the warrants are recognized. That means each period, there'll be a noncash decrease to our reported revenue figures, which will flow down through the income statement to gross profit, adjusted EBITDA and net income. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:12:47In the first quarter, the impact of this was $800,000 which impacted our sales comparisons by 0.9% and adjusted EBITDA by 4.2%. In our earnings release, when we file our 10 Q, you will see the impact of this clearly in the statement of cash flows, where it gets added back into the cash flow from operations as well as in the footnotes, where we'll break out the value for the period. When evaluating our performance, we recommend also looking at our income statement figures on an as adjusted basis by adding those revenue offsets in to understand our performance. With that, I'll turn it to Omar. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:13:20Thank you, Bill. Now to come back to what we are seeing on the ground in the 50 plus countries we operate in and what we are doing to improve our position. To provide some clarity on the impact of tariffs, I'd like to point out we have a diverse global business with more than 50% of our net revenue generated in regions where our cost of goods sold and capital expenditures are not directly impacted by tariffs outside of what it does to business and consumer confidence. Business in Europe and APAC reporting unit is conducted largely in euros, which has appreciated meaningfully against the dollar, providing us with a benefit against our USD term loan. We are in cash generation mode in these regions to best position ourselves to benefit from the stronger euro currency. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:14:07In The U. S, the impact of tariffs is largest to our capital expenditures of our PPS converters, some of which are purchased from manufacturers in China or in the case of machines we assemble and manufacture ourselves in North America, contain parts and components from China and other Asian countries. We're taking steps to minimize the potential impact of these tariffs by evaluating alternative parts and global suppliers as well as stepping up our efforts to refabricate and refurbish existing machines in our fleet to reduce cost. At this time, we are focused on minimizing our converter spend by getting units back from the field and refurbishing them to minimize spend. In automation, our box customization equipment is currently made in Europe and shipped to The U. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:14:53S. And thus will be subject to the European tariff rate. The majority of parts used to assemble those machines are European as well, so we do not have much exposure to tariffs on Asian countries for our box customization solutions. We are focused on cost out and efficiencies to minimize the impact to our customers and believe that the value proposition of our equipment to our customers remains extremely compelling even with the current additional tariffs. We believe this could also provide an opportunity for us to take share versus the more expensive three-dimensional box customization technologies, which is more expensive and is also manufactured in Europe. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:15:35Our automated dunnage insertion solutions and decision towers are assembled in The U. S. With some parts coming from Asian countries that are currently in the ninety day reprieve window. At this point, we do not expect the tariffs to meaningfully impact demand for our solutions, given the strong performance and payback, which is becoming even more critical in this environment. As Bill pointed out, our largest input cost, which is kraft paper, is not currently impacted by tariffs as we source paper locally for use in our different regions. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:16:08Given the operating environment uncertainty, we are tightly managing our business in the near term, while maintaining focus on the long term health and potential of our company. Our focus is on driving volumes and winning market share, reducing our structural costs and maximizing cash. We have a world class platform and a strong momentum in many areas of the business. We are thankful for the investments we have made and feel like they position us well to continue to drive the business forward even in this challenging environment. Thank you all again. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:16:43At this point, we'd like to open the line up for questions. Operator? Operator00:16:49Thank Our first question comes from Greg Palm from Craig Hallum. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:17:11Yes, thanks. This is Danny Egerich on for Greg today. I appreciate you taking the questions. Hoping to kind of dig in a little more on the geographies. Obviously, it sounds like North America was good in the quarter and continues to be so. Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:17:27But maybe a little more color on what exactly you saw in March in kind of the EMEA, APAC regions and now that you've seen some stabilization here in April, maybe what your confidence level is in the region, I guess, kind of in the months ahead? Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:17:45Sure. Yeah. Good morning, Danny. So just going geographically, as you outlined, North America is very robust, continues to sort of exhibit a very strong funnel of growth and great trial activity for us. And a lot of it is driven by the large enterprise accounts. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:18:05And we frankly see that continuing for the rest of the year. In Europe, let me take that first before Asia Pacific. I would say Southern Europe feels stronger than Northern Europe for our business. The Nordic region was a little bit weaker. And then in Central Germany was a bit weaker as as consumers and and frankly, CEOs and companies were a little bit more cautious. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:18:36So we saw a little bit of softness there and we saw a bit more strength in the southern part of the continent. In April, we saw some good stabilization. We'll see how things go from here. Frankly, it's very tough to assess where Europe is going. On the one hand, with some of the legislations that are happening and stimulus in Germany and some of the discussion around defense industry, etcetera, we see some potential for a pickup in activity. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:19:11On the other hand, I know tariffs are obviously weighing on them and weighing on consumer sentiment. So we continue to monitor things very closely in Europe. In Asia Pacific, it's obviously a very broad region and there's a lot of varying sort of performance. The strongest region for us or country is Japan, which continues to exhibit quite a bit of momentum and we're excited about what we're seeing there. In Southeast Asia, sorry, it's a little bit more mixed. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:19:43And then Australia is also a little bit more mixed. But our expectation for the rest of the year is quite constructive sort of on Japan. If you summarize for our business, you basically have overall a very strong North America market for now. You have a pretty decent level of activity overall in APAC driven by Japan. And then Europe is the area that is exhibiting some softness that we're watching more closely. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:20:11And then if you overlay that with our expectations of growth in automation that we think will deliver outsized numbers this year, we believe that overall the growth picture for us will continue to be robust. And frankly, this is our seventh quarter in a row of showing decent volume growth. And in almost five of those seven quarters our volume growth was double digit or north of 10%. And we think that will continue for the rest of the year. Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:20:45Okay, great. That's really helpful. And then you mentioned kind of the automation in there. I was hoping to kind of maybe hit on some of the push outs you saw from Q1 to Q2. So do we expect those to all hit in Q2 now? Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:21:01Or is there any risk that, that continues to push out just based on what we're seeing in the macro? I know you kind of said you're still confident in that 50% growth rate, but just kind of seeing how you're thinking about that. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:21:13Sure. Yes. No, that's a great question because obviously automation is a big driver of growth and a big area of emphasis and investment for us. I would say we entered the year feeling very, very bullish. In automation, I will tell you, because some of these projects are sizable, it's very tough to be precise that something is going to be signed before a particular quarter. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:21:38So, you know, it's very possible that instead of signing something by March, it may slip to to April just given the nature of the integration and the documentation it takes to do to do automation projects. So I'm less worried about a shift from one quarter to another per se as long as we are winning these projects. So that's point one. Point two, what gives me a lot of confidence, Danny, is we are working with some new accounts, but more importantly, we're working with existing accounts about more and more installations and more equipment. And from everything I'm seeing after all the announcements and the uncertainty about tariffs, these projects continue and continue at a very good pace. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:22:24So I'm confident in the 50% plus for the year. Just given the visibility I have and the funnel I'm seeing and some of these deals that we're trying to sign, I think we're going to sign a lot of them in Q2, because some of them that slipped from the end of Q1, they continue to sort of move at a good pace and some of them already signed in this quarter. So I feel with many of our customers that require big automation needs, things are on track. Now let me just interject here a little bit about the macro environment. Because obviously, with the announcement around tariffs, we all worried here, that going to delay some automation projects? Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:23:06Is that going to delay CapEx? How our customer is going to react? And I'm going to simplify and tell you things fall into two buckets. The large accounts and the large players in e commerce, in retail, etcetera, and some even in industrial, we see them pushing forward on automation. If the ROI is there, if the payback is there, the feedback they've given us is these projects are very important and they're not going to delay them because of tariffs. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:23:34In particular, if these projects come with savings around labor, there is a big concern other than tariffs out there that we're seeing around the border policy, migration policy, etcetera, and what that may mean for warehouse workers, what that may mean for labor and tightness of labor market. So we're actually quite enthusiastic about what we're seeing on that front. So that's on the one hand the bullish side of what we're seeing in automation post the tariff discussion. On the other hand, are some companies, think apparel, maybe think footwear, etcetera, some companies that are hit pretty hard around the tariffs and a lot of their product maybe comes from China, those companies are deferring automation projects. But that is not a huge part of the universe of companies that we tackle. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:24:24So if you put it all together, we remain very confident in sort of our growth trajectory in automation. Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:24:33Okay. Appreciate that. Maybe if I could just sneak in one last quick one on margins. Obviously, you came in a little bit light this quarter. You you kind of gave the factors that that played into that. Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:24:44But now as you kind of initiate some of these pricing and and, you know, cost management initiatives, how should we think about, you know, the benefits of those those things flowing through, Q2 and in the coming quarters? How should we think about gross margin trajectory? Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:25:03Sure. I'll let Bill take that. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:25:05Sure. Thanks, Danny. So as far William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:25:07as the gross margin outlook, right, in the prepared remarks, we had helped fund some of the actions that we're taking to improve our margin profile, right? So we're taking price. We're doing some operational initiatives, taking cost out right across the board. So we do expect gross margin to improve from Q1 to Q2 with the bulk of the majority of the improvement coming Q3, Q4, right, as some of these cost initiatives take hold. But we would expect you to see a step up of a few points from Q1 to Q2 and then again into Danny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:25:43Our Operator00:25:48next question comes from Kieran McCabe from Cantor Fitzgerald. Analyst00:25:54Hi, guys. This is Kieran on for Troy Jensen. Just a follow-up to Analyst00:25:58that last question. Maybe could you provide any kind of detail on the cost reduction actions you're taking as it just operating more efficiently? And any kind Analyst00:26:08of details you could provide on that? Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:26:11Yes. Sure. I'll start here, then I'll turn it over to Bill maybe for a bit more detail. So a couple of things. If you look at Q1 and a little bit Q4 of last year, some of our suppliers just like us frankly were a bit surprised with some of the growth in North America and some mills ran into some operational issues getting us paper on time frankly, and unrelated to even some of the volume trends. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:26:40Some of them had some equipment issues and maintenance issues that limited their ability to produce in time and in full for us. So that meant, in particular this quarter and a little bit in the prior quarter, we were buying product in the spot market. We were trying to sort of make sure we have enough inventory to sell to our customers. And when you do that last minute, clearly that came with some inefficiencies, not just in the cost of the product, but in adjacent costs like warehousing and freight and all that. So that impacted margins quite a bit. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:27:17And part of the initiatives that you're seeing us do right now is better planning, better forecasting and frankly that's already starting to have an impact in this quarter. And as Bill said, we think that will improve in the next quarter. So some operational efficiencies and cost outs around freight warehousing should help. We are also looking at the organization and looking at the team and where we have some redundancies etcetera. We're being very prudent in reducing costs and spend there. Omar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at Ranpak00:27:53And then in automation, we're also investing quite a bit in some operational efficiencies, frankly driven by scale. So one of the things that we're doing is as we ramp up and win more and more accounts and with some of that scale, we are becoming a more and better efficient operator and helping margin that way. So these are some of the cost initiatives that we're embarking upon. And then maybe Bill can add some color. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:28:22Sure. So I mean roughly half or the bulk of it, right, would come through headcount. There's just certain areas where as we make some of these efficiencies, just wouldn't be required anymore. So we'll be able to take that structural cost out. As Omar mentioned, freight and logistics is a key piece that we've been doing a lot of work on, moving product between our different facilities. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:28:45So there's good opportunity there to take cost out outside storage, right, or certain things as we work down this paper inventory, which we're well situated with at the moment, will come into effect. And then other just areas that we're just being extremely tight on given the environment is discretionary spend. So things that are nice to have, not need to have at the moment are just being put on pause, and we'll evaluate as the year progresses. Analyst00:29:09Perfect. Thank you so much. Operator00:29:12We have no further questions in queue. I'll turn the call back over to Bill Drew for closing remarks. William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:29:19Great. Thank you, Julianne, and thank William DrewEVP & CFO at Ranpak00:29:21you all for joining us today. We'll see you next quarter. Operator00:29:24This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesSara HorvathExecutive VP, Chief Legal & HR OfficerWilliam DrewEVP & CFOAnalystsOmar AsaliChairman and Chief Executive Officer at RanpakDanny EggerichsEquity Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLCAnalystPowered by