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Earnings HistoryForecast Ecopetrol EPS ResultsActual EPSN/AConsensus EPS $0.58Beat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AEcopetrol Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$31,778.85 billionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AEcopetrol Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/6/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, May 7, 2025Conference Call Time10:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Ecopetrol Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 7, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Natalia, and I will be your operator today. Welcome to Ecopetrol's earnings conference call, in which we will discuss the main financial and operating results of the first quarter of twenty twenty five. There will be a question and answer session at the end of the presentation. Before we begin, it is important to mention that the comments in this call by Ecopetrol's senior management include projections of the company's future performance. Operator00:00:32These projections do not constitute any commitment as to future results nor do they take into account risks or uncertainties that could materialize. As a result, Ecopetrol assumes no responsibility in the event that future results are different from the projections shared on this conference call. The call will be led by Mr. Ricardo Rova, CEO of Ecopetrol Rafael Guzman, Executive Vice President of Hydrocarbons Camilo Arco, CFO and David Regano, Executive Vice President of Transition Energies. Thank you for your attention. Operator00:01:13Mr. Roa, you may begin your conference. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:01:19Welcome to the first quarter results call of the Ecopetrol Group for 2025. The first months of the year were marked by high global uncertainty with a notable volatility in Brent prices, driven by geopolitical tensions and an increased supply from OPEC plus. These factors required the activation of different plants to address lower price scenarios. At Ecopetrol, we Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:01:49have Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:01:49historically anticipated these challenges with a strong strategy, diversifying our customer base, enhancing our commercial management and maintaining operational and capital discipline. This approach has enabled us to navigate the environment confidentially and take advantage of the opportunities that emerged. In the hydrocarbons line, we closed the quarter with an average production of seven and forty five thousand barrels of oil equivalent per day, in line with our annual goals and maintaining a growing trend despite local events. We are moving ahead with our exploration campaign and have achieved important milestones in The Caribbean offshore and our operations in Brazil, reporting our commitment to growth and the sustainability of reserves. In transportation, we maintained our resilience, controlling social events, preserving operational continuity while developing key infrastructure to reduce the time and cost of logistics for our crude, oil and pine products. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:03:09Regarding our refineries, as anticipated, the throughput was temporarily affected by scheduled maintenance shutdowns according to the plan, ensuring safe, reliable and efficient operations. The refining margin decreased by 3.9 per barrel compared to the first quarter of the last year, explained by 53% due to product differentials, 30% due to the scheduled maintenance, 14% due to unplanned operational events and 3% due to other events. Among these events, there were energy issues at the Cartagena refinery where we maintained our mitigation planning progress. Let's move to the next slide, please. We firmly believe that natural gas is a key energy source for the energy transition and the electrification of the country. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:04:15We continue contributing to national supply with significant progress in the development of shore gas, along with important milestones such as the signing of the regasification services contract on Colombian Pacific Coast. This project has a potential of 60 gigabtud and is expected to begin operations in the second quarter of twenty twenty six. We are also advising the Caribbean reclassification project, which will leverage Ecopetrol Group's assets to commercialize up to two fifty giga Btud with an estimated starting 2027. Our Executive Vice President for the Energy Transition will provide more details about these projects shortly. I want to highlight that Ecopetrol Group supplied approximately 68% of the country's natural gas demand during the first quarter, reaffirming our critical role in the Colombian's energy security. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:05:24In renewable energy, we remain committed to achieve 900 megawatts of cell generation capacity this year, actually expecting to surpass 1,000 megawatts. This will allow us to continue reducing energy cost in our operation and to maintain our position as the leading cell generator of renewable energy in the country. During the first quarter, our energy efficiency program generate savings of nearly COP 23,000,000,000, reaching a total 21 petajoules since the program began in 2018. Finally, we continue to achieve managed environmental licenses and the complementary regulations required to legally enable our energy transition projects. Let's move on the next slide. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:06:18Financially, this was a stable quarter despite lower Brent prices. I want to highlight several aspects. First, we continue to strengthen our efficiency program, optimizing cost and generating more value for every invested dollar as part of the company's future, which is reinforced to face current scenarios. Secondly, I want to highlight the progress of the investment plan for the year, which has reached near to the 20% execution. This progress has been affected by external events in the Rubiales Castilla and Canosur fields. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:06:59However, we have achieved important advances in efficiencies through new initiatives in drilling and completion in our operations in the Permian and through circular economic projects involving material reuse. Thirdly, I want to mention that we received early payments from the fuel price stabilization fund by the government covering the balances of the second, third and fourth quarters in 2024. In addition, the lower accommodation during this quarter reflects both the government's commitment and Ecopetrol's effective management and last, the payment of dividends to our shareholders, demonstrating our financial strength. Let's move to the next slide, please. In terms of corporate governance, I want to highlight the results of the General Shareholders' Meeting held in March. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:08:00The Board of Directors were formed with members of extensive experience in key areas of the company, completing all the directors provided for in the status mostly independent. The new directors are already familiarizing themselves with the strategy and operation of DecoPetroglob and have reiterated their commitment to continue generating competitive returns for our investors. Additionally, we published our integrated management report and the annual corporate governance report, which includes our main initiatives, goals and results in this area. The approved dividends was within the range of our internal policy, balancing returns to shareholders with the need to continue investing in our operations and strategy. On the environmental front, we continue to reduce our greenhouse gas emission in Scopes one and two. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:09:03Our water reuse capacity continues to grow and remains at levels comparable to the most demanding international standards. With these results, we reaffirm that Ecopetrol remains a solid company strategy for the country and prepared for future challenges. I now give the floor to Rafael Guzman, who will present the results of the Hydrocarbons business line. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:09:29Thank you, Ricardo. As of 2025, we have a 17% progress in our exploration investments with four wells finished and two more wells in drilling operations, out of 10 planned for the year. Key highlights for this investment include: Operations Negua off zero block with the successful completion of the initial formation testing of the Serious 2 ST2 well. This allowed us to confirm the reservoir conditions and identify a production potential higher than initially estimated. Additionally, as part of the development environment and licensing process for the serious discovery, we have successfully completed the required consultation process with the 116 communities certified by the national authority for prior consultation. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:10:21Furthermore, drilling began on the Buenos Huerta-one well. This well located 11 kilometers from the Sirius discovery aims to test the presence of gas in an exploration concept different from that of the aforementioned discovery. As for the onshore activity, oil present was confirmed in the Zorzal Este-two well drilled in 2023 by Heoparque in partnership with Ocol in the Llanos Prentalis area. The well is currently undergoing full test. Regarding the offshore assets in the South Caribbean, where Shell has been our operator partner in the coal fired, purple angel and Fuerte Sul blocks, we have been conducting a review since February 2025 to assess the best alternatives to continue executing the investments. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:11:11In light of a potential decision by the partner to divest its interest. These projects are a priority for Ecopetrol and have solid technical and economic viability. The next steps in the development of these discoveries include a continuation with the conceptual, basic and detailed engineering for connecting the gas to the national transportation system, as well as efforts with the Ministry of Mines and Energy and the Energy and Gas Regulatory Commission to enable gas evacuation to the national system, along with any required adjustments to the tariff system. Ecopetrol has full capacity to ensure the continuity of operations. Let's move on to the next slide. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:11:58During the first quarter of twenty twenty five, the final investment decision for Gato Do Mato was approved. This development is part of our strategy to geographically diversify the hydrocarbon portfolio and increase in reserves. We expect partial reserves incorporation in 2025. This decision followed a reengineering process for its development and included installation of an FPSO designed to process up to 120,000 barrels of oil per day. This is the first development project in which Ecopetrol participates in the pre salt area of the Santos Basin in Brazil. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:12:39Gato Tomato has certified 112,000,000 barrels of 2C contingent oil resources net to Ecopetrol before royalties. Production is expected to begin in 2029, reaching approximately 33,000 barrels of oil per day net to Ecopetrol. Let's move to the next slide. As shown in the top right graph, in the first quarter of twenty twenty five, Ecopetrol reached a production of seven and forty five thousand barrels of oil equivalent per day, mainly due to the contribution from the Acacia spill following the increase in our participation in the CPO-nine block, the Canosur field due to the expansion of water processing facilities at the Centaurus facilities and better performance in the Permian. With these results, Ecopetrol achieved the highest crude oil production in Colombia in the last five years. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:13:37This was possible despite the impact of external factors in Cancur, Quifa and Rubiales between March 31 and April 3, caused by blockades by indigenous guards as well as the impact on production from fields in the Northern Arauca due to interruptions of the Cano Limon, Covenas and Lisentenario pipeline as a result of attacks to the infrastructure. Ecopetrol demonstrated its resilience by quickly recovering 100% of the production from Cano Sul and Ruelles fields. Regarding investment activity, during the first quarter of the year, dollars $672,000,000 were executed with 17% progress on segment's investment plan. A total of 94 workovers and 114 development wells were drilled. For the Canosur asset, the startup of the pipeline and the expansion of the Centaurus Station stand out. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:14:37These milestones will allow operational continuity of the field with an increase in its production. Let's move to the next slide, please. In midstream, the volumes transported decreased by 2% compared to the first quarter of twenty twenty four, as shown in the first graph, primarily due to the scheduled maintenance of the Barrancabermeja refinery, which impacted both oil and refined product volumes. The midstream segment activated alternative logistics schemes complement the necessary volumes and meet domestic production demand, maximizing the use of available infrastructure during such maintenances. This included the delivery of naphtha and diesel at the Pozos Coladas loading terminal and gasoline at the Agla Cucho plant, as well as the reception of Sebastopol and imports via Buenaventura of over 807,000 barrels of diesel and gasoline. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:15:36Additionally, we successfully evacuated more than 3,700,000 barrels from the Arauca fields to the Vicente Nario pipeline, following the suspension of the Banania Ayacucho section of the Canelo Mon Covenas pipeline, In line with what was mentioned on the previous slide, the new Caneluzuru pipeline began operation this quarter, connecting the field to the ODL system. With a capacity of over 50,000 barrels per day, it will enable the evacuation of 100% of the current production from the field, providing operational reliability and reducing vulnerability to external risks. Lastly, I would like to highlight the financial strength of the midstream segment, which continues to contribute to the stability of the group's financial results in times of volatility, with an 11% growth in EBITDA, driven by both exogenous factors and improved operational performance. Let's move to the next slide. Important maintenances activities were carried out in our refineries during the quarter. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:16:44In Barrancarameha, scheduled maintenance took place in the crude unit, the diesel hydrotreater and the automatic plant. Additionally, major maintenance work began at the UOP2 cracking unit and it's progressing as planned. In Cartagena, an unscheduled total shutdown occurred from February 2020 with no impact on refined product supply in Colombia, followed by the commencement of scheduled maintenance on the hydrocracking unit. The consolidated refining throughput for the first quarter of the year was 396,000 barrels per day, representing nearly 7% reduction compared to the same period in 2024 due to scheduled maintenances and the operational events mentioned earlier. The refining margin for the first quarter was $10.9 per barrel, which is $3.9 per barrel lower than the same period last year. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:17:4553% is associated with a reduction in international fuel price differentials, 30% with scheduled maintenances and 14% with unplanned operational events, including the shutdown of the Cartagena refinery. Similarly, during the first quarter of the year, there was a 67% decrease in EBITDA compared to the quarter of twenty twenty four, with 40% of the impact related to exogenous factors such as volume prices, exchange rate fluctuations and refined product theft. 43% of the reduction was due to the operational expenses arising from the maintenance plan, inventory management and higher gas costs, 10% reduction due to unplanned operational events such as the previously mentioned shutdown of the Carretajena refinery. Compared to the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four, there was an increase in both refining margin and EBITDA, driven by better product differentials. To address the challenges of 2025, we have made progress in the following value levers. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:18:59At the Cartagena refinery, significant progress has been made in recovering electrical reliability, with seven of the 16 planned milestones achieved to date. By June 2025, we expect to mitigate the risk from very high to mid. Regarding cost optimization, an eight percent reduction in refining cash cost was achieved compared to fourth quarter twenty twenty four, primarily due to the reduction in unplanned maintenance. To maximize value products, two key projects are being developed: first, the expansion of the coking capacity of the Cartagena unit, which is underway and is expected to be operational in 2027. Second, various initiatives aimed at increasing productivity at the Barrancor Meja petrochemical plant are being advanced. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:19:53Lastly, in the strategic projects aimed at diversifying and exporting new markets, I would like to highlight the approval by the Board of Directors of the project Fuel Quality Baseline, Ivaraca Vermeja and the project implementation of improvements to the U107 NAFTA Hydrotreater in Cartagena. These projects are intended to improve the EBITDA of the downstream segment by generating higher value products and the improvement of gasoline quality. They also contribute to reducing fuel imports for the country and improving air quality in Colombia by 2,030. These projects are key to advancing the energy transition and the future incorporation of biofuels, such as sustainable aviation fuel, SAF. Let's move to the next slide. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:20:48In the first quarter of the year, we made progress on the efficiency plan and we are above expectations, achieving 700,000,000,000.0 from the upstream, midstream and downstream segments as well as from the corporate areas. These efficiencies, higher than those of the first quarter of twenty twenty four, have allowed us to advance in cost control with reductions in lifting costs, transportation cost per barrel and refining costs compared to last quarter of twenty twenty four. Additionally, I would like to highlight that lifting costs reached levels lower than those of the first quarter of twenty twenty four, with a decrease of $0.85 per barrel, driven by the achievement of efficiencies and higher production that more than offset the operational cost pressures of higher energy consumption and treatment of higher volumes of fluids as steels mature and the effect of higher dollar to peso exchange rate. In 2025, we continue with an asset profitability enhancement plan that will allow us to maintain lifting cost below $12 per barrel. Now I'll turn it over to David, who will discuss the main milestones of the energies for the transition business line. David Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for Transition at Ecopetrol00:22:09Thank you, Rafael. One of our strategic priorities is to move forward with projects that contribute to meet natural gas demand under current supply conditions. In this context, we would like to share the progress on our reclassification initiatives. On February 28, we signed a contract as a user of integrated reclassification services on Colombian specific costs with Pio SaaS, a company responsible for building, operating and maintaining the facilities. PO was selected after several negotiation rounds within a competitive process that included 18 companies. David Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for Transition at Ecopetrol00:22:51The project involves the use of floating storage unit anchored in the Buenaventura Bay and a reclassification facility located in Buga. This new infrastructure will enable the received storage and reclassification of LNG with an estimated capacity between 60,000,000 to 100,000,000 cubic feet per day and storage capacity of up to 138,000 cubic meters. Operations are expected to begin in the second quarter of twenty twenty six. Additionally, the commercialization process will begin in July 2025, starting at 60 giga BTU per day for five years, supported by key regulatory developments that open the door for new players in the diversification and commercialization of imported gas. Let's move on the next slide, please. David Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for Transition at Ecopetrol00:23:46At the same time, we are evaluating the possibility of reclassification project on the Caribbean Coast, leveraging the COPETROL Group's existing infrastructure in two fronts. By Enel NG, using assets from the Wahira Association to deliver gas to the national transportation system from the Vallena Station through a floating storage and reclassification unit. Coenas LNG using Zenith's assets and a floating storage and reclassification unit connected to the Coenas Port. This option will require infrastructure conversion to ensure connectivity along the whole Vazconia segment with estimated transportation capacity of 130,000,000 cubic feet per day by 2027 and up to 400,000,000 cubic feet per day by 2029. This project will enable the commercialization of up to two fifty gigabtu per day with expected deliveries in 2027. David Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for Transition at Ecopetrol00:24:49Both initiatives reflect a comprehensive supply strategy, using existing infrastructure to expand supply capacity, while ensuring greater flexibility to meet the country's demand. Next slide please. Additionally, we are launching a new commercialization process for natural gas from our major fields, covering the period from December 2025 to November 2030. This cycle includes the sale of a 51 giga BTU per day block over three years, along with the potential availability of an additional 30 giga BTU per day from Heratore. This complemented by yearly blocks between 2027 and 02/1930, with volumes ranging from nine to 41 gigabtou per day. David Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for Transition at Ecopetrol00:25:38During the first quarter of twenty twenty five, the CoPetro Group supplied about 68% of the national natural gas demand and 83% of non thermal power demand, supported by a production of 158,003 barrels of oil equivalent per day of gas and LPG and EBITDA generation of $915,000,000,000. Our energy efficiency program delivered 1.27 petajoules in the first quarter of the year, avoiding over 90,000 tons of CO2 equivalent emissions and generating nearly COP 23,000,000,000 in savings. Since its launch in 2018, the program has accumulated Ps. 21.18 pJ, representing a 71% progress towards our 02/1930 target. In the first quarter of twenty twenty five, the incorporation of non conventional renewable energy sources allowed savings over ARS 10,000,000,000. David Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for Transition at Ecopetrol00:26:40In addition, we reached more than ARS 6,000,000,000 in wholesale energy purchases. Lastly, we are progressing on an inorganic growth portfolio that could add over 1,500 megawatts of installed capacity from non conventional renewable energy sources between 2025 and 2028. This includes the signing of our framework investment agreement with ICE Colombia, which set the conditions for a potential 49% stake in the JMA Guacai Wind Cluster located in La Guajira, subject to the fulfillment of precedent conditions. I will now pass the floor to Camilo, who will present the results of our transmission and road infrastructure line and the key financial milestones. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:27:30Thank you, David. During the first quarter of twenty twenty five, ESA continued delivering outstanding results and contributing to the diversification of the Ecopetrol Group. These achievements are due to the commissioning of new projects, the positive effect of contractual indexation, higher returns from road concessioners and an increase in revenues from the telecommunication business. ESA exhibited a comprehensive growth with an increase of 9% in revenues and 8% in EBITDA year over year. Its contribution within the Ecopetrol Group increased, accounting for 13% of revenues and 18% of EBITDA, aligned with our long term strategic diversification objective. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:28:21Additionally, we highlight the dividend contribution from ISA to its majority shareholder, which for 2025 totaled $720,000,000,000 and its return on average equity of 16.8% for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. With the early achievement of key goals for the ESA two thousand and thirty strategy, the company is moving forward with its new 02/1940 strategy, energy that brings life to the transition. This strategy outlines a roadmap towards a future more sustainable, innovative and committed with Latin America's development. I want to highlight also ESA's long term ambitious goal for doubling its twenty twenty four's EBITDA. Additionally, it aims to increase its transmission capacity of twenty twenty four by 1.5 times, develop eight gigawatts of storage infrastructure and generate synergies with Ecopetrol as a provider of energy solutions. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:29:28Regarding the awarded and operational projects, several important achievements stand out. In Brazil, Eighteen reinforcements were added to the electrical grid. In Chile, the new two twenty kilowatts Las Palmas Centella flow control system project was awarded to Intervial Chile. In the Road segment, the implementation of the free flow system on the Ruta Del Maipo was agreed upon facilitating traffic in the South access to Santiago. Additionally, the commissioning of the renovation of the Huatiquara and Tazajeros substations in Santander, Colombia, 6 additional reinforcement in Brazil and the Expansion 21 project in Peru are not worth it. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:30:17Let's go to the next slide to detail the financial performance of our group. The financial results for the first quarter of twenty twenty five reflect our attempts to consolidate structural efficiencies and protect the company's profitability and liquidity. As Ricardo and Rafael mentioned before, the declining Brent reference prices and major maintenances in the downstream segment to guarantee the production of quality fuels and preserve the integrity of our operations impacted our results. Net income stood at COP3.1 trillion, EBITDA at COP13.3 trillion, and EBITDA margin reached an outstanding 42%, proving our effective control and lower costs and expenses compared to the last quarter of twenty twenty four. The Transportation and Transmission segment contributed 42% to the EBITDA, effectively mitigating the impact of price volatility. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:31:21The Exploration and Production segments contributed 54% to the EBITDA, while the refining segment accounted for the remaining 4%. We invested 1,200,000,000 exceeding the average amount for the first quarter of the past five years. I would like to emphasize that within the hydrocarbons line, our main efforts were directed towards the exploration and production segment in fields such as CPO-nine, Cano Sur and Rubiales as well as in the Permian. These were followed by investments focused on ensuring operational continuity in the transportation and refining segment. Similarly, we made investments of approximately $136,000,000 related to expand the gas chain and supply. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:32:14Our leverage indicators remain steady. The gross debt to EBITDA ratio remained at 2.2 times on a consolidated basis and 1.6 times excluding ISA. Let's move on the next slide. We keep addressing and monitoring our cash levels, both standalone and on a consolidated basis, with a proactive approach that has enabled us to optimize cash flow, ensure the availability of resources for key investments and minimize financial risks. The Ecopetrol Group's cash balance closed at COP17 trillion, generating a positive free cash flow of COP 1,400,000,000,000.0. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:32:57Of the total cash, 42% was contributed by ESA, twenty seven percent by Ecopetrol and the remaining 31% by the group's other subsidiaries. Additionally, our cash management during the quarter included the following transactions. As of March, we carried out a repo for approximately $500,000,000 backed by public debt securities, COLTES received in 2024 by Ecopetrol as part of the fuel prices, stabilization fund payment, generating a temporary increase in short term gross debt. Depending on the market conditions, the unwind of this repo will be reviewed. The Ministry of Finance authorized an international loan facility of up to $500,000,000 with Banco Santander. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:33:50The proceeds from this transaction will be used to meet our operational cash requirements, thus compensating the outflows caused by recent inorganic acquisitions. This aligns with our financing plan and maintains the gross debt to EBITDA target for the year. A favorable milestone was the early collection of the total balance of the fuel price stabilization fund, FEPEC, for 2024. At the March, the receivable of the first quarter of twenty twenty four for around Ps. 2,200,000,000,000.0 was paid through short term public debt securities, COLTES, which were used to guarantee a repo transaction. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:34:39In addition, at the April, we received 5,400,000,000,000.0 in short term coal test for the balance of the second, third and fourth quarters of twenty twenty four. These were already sold, providing the necessary liquidity to complete the total dividend payment to our shareholders in the first half of this year. Through our financial hedging policy, we executed hedging programs to mitigate the price volatility on diesel for 3,200,000 barrels and exchange rate for $615,000,000 Likewise, we continue to analyze other hedging strategies for Brent price for the second half of twenty twenty five and 2026. These measures have strategically positioned us to address recent market dynamics and the increased fiscal obligations resulting from the interior commotion decree due to the Catatumbo crisis. We anticipate this will result in disbursement for the group of approximately 1,200,000,000,000 this year, in addition to the impact of the value added tax on fuel imports starting 01/01/2025, which will be detailed in the next slide. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:36:03In December 2024, the National Tax Authority issued a ruling interpreting that value added tax on fuel imports must be paid at a rate of 19% on the customs value of the imported goods. This ruling has prospective effects starting on 01/01/2025. Since January, Ecopetrol has paid such value added tax in accordance with the ANS ruling. Estimates show that in 2025, this payment will reach approximately trillion, recoverable at 93% through tax refund request. Regarding the period 2022 to 2024, Ecopetrol SEA and the Cartagena refinery received three requests from Lian, including a proposal of tax, penalty and interest totaling trillion related to the VAT payment on the declarations submitted during that period Due to the differing interpretations of regulations and protecting the company's interest, Ecopetrol and the Cartagena refinery will respond to the special custom request and challenge them through administrative and judicial channels using the resources and actions provided by the law. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:37:28Ecopetrol and the Cartagena refinery are committed to fully complying with their customs and tax obligations and will respect the administrative and judicial decision that resolved this dispute. Finally, market and company scenarios indicate that Brent prices for 2025 may fall below our financial projections. Therefore, we've implemented measures to enhance our ability to address these industry challenges, ensuring we achieve our operational and financial targets for this year. I now hand over to the President, who will detail the adopted plan to navigate the current environment of price volatility. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:38:11Thank you, Camilo. To close this evening's call, I would like to share key messages about the actions we have been implementing in response to the high uncertainty environment we are currently navigating. It's important to emphasize that Ecopetrolis are diversified group with core business in hydrocarbon transportation and energy transmission, which had proven to be essential during times of volatility and now contribute over 40% of our EBITDA. On top of that, we have a competitive commercial strategy that has allowed us to maintain single digit differentials, maximizing the value of our products. This is not the first period of a strong volatility we have faced as a company, and we had both the experience and preparation need to respond effectively. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:39:11Our investment plan is built around a price range that allows us to adapt to different market scenarios while maintaining capital discipline to ensure competitive returns. Based on these fundamentals, we have implemented concrete measures to strengthen the group's position. For cash rotation, we have implemented an additional robust program of efficiencies and cost and expenses saving amounting by approximately ARS 1,000,000,000,000, along with a strong working capital management of around ARS 2,000,000,000,000, combined with the early CapEx payments and available credit lines, this reinforces our liquidity. In terms of capital discipline, we are focused on efficient production decisions, portfolio rotation strategies and differentiated crude market. Considering our integration across the value chain, 99% of our production operates at an EBITDA breakeven below $55 per barrel, providing a natural hedge against price fluctuations. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:40:29Additionally, our plans include flexibility in terms of CapEx intervention of $500,000,000 aiming to protect our production for the year. For resilience and financial flexibility, we maintain a controlled debt level, declining production costs and are generating synergies between segments and subsidiaries that continue to strengthen our competitiveness. It is worth mentioning that given the current situation, we update our lifting cost target aiming for a level below $12 per barrel. We continuously monitor the market conditions and have well defined protocols in place to adjust commercial options, optimize cost to renegotiate contracts, manage debt and activate financial hedge whenever necessary. These pillars allow us to look ahead with confidence. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:41:30We have clear protocols to respond to any further deterioration in market conditions and are ready to activate additional levers if required. Ecopetrol is well prepared to continue generating sustainable value for our shareholders and for the country, even in the face of global volatility. With that, we now open the floor for questions. Moderator00:42:06Thank you. Let's begin now the Q and A session. We recommend to ask three questions at the most to give space for the others. And also all the analysts, please choose the language in which you'll be asking your question. If not, we won't be able to hear it. Moderator00:42:29The next question is from Catherine Ortiz from Correores Davivienda. Moderator00:42:35Good morning, everyone. Can you hear me? Moderator00:42:41Catherine, good morning. We can hear you clouded clear. Moderator00:42:44Thank you for your presentation. Let me summarize my three questions. One is related to the last topic that you mentioned, Ricardo, related to the effect that the fall of oil prices can have and how Ecopetrol has been preparing. So I have several questions with that. First, could you please confirm figures that you mentioned in other settings related to the impact of the fall of the price of oil on the EBITDA and the revenue per dollar of the drop of the price of oil, you said that it's 750,000,000.00 per dollar. Moderator00:43:39Please confirm that figure. And with your last slide, I have a question because the breakeven that you mentioned at 99% with production EBITDA up $54. I'd like to compare it also with the breakeven of your revenue Because in the figures that you showed at the end of the year, the breakeven of the EBITDA at the end of the year was $40 overall, but the revenue was $49. And that's because of the context of the very high taxes that we have in Colombia. So I'd like to know that figure of 99 percent of production and revenue to understand better the impact that we could see on production because of this effect. Moderator00:44:32And also, although it's true, especially the premium, we know that the breakeven that zone is at $50 now. But when you look at that WTI, it's below 60. So could you please tell us if in that production segment in The U. S. There is a contingency related to the effect that this could have with the fall of the oil price? Moderator00:45:08That's my first question. Do you want to hear the other two or do you want to answer this first one? Maybe my first question was quite extensive. Erika, thank you. Let's begin by answering your first question and then we can cover the other two. Moderator00:45:32Our CEO would like to talk about the effect that you're asking regarding the decrease of each dollar with the Brent, barrel. Then I can compliment. Good morning for everyone. Catherine, good morning and thank you for your questions. I'm Ricardo Roa, the CEO of Ecopetrol. Moderator00:45:58Yes, I'd like to confirm your figures and the exercises made so far. Remember, we have a price of reference of Brent in our plan in investments and in operations. Based on this, we have evaluated and for every dollar that the Brent changes in the market, we will have impacts on the revenue and the EBITDA and the net profit. The impact of each dollar that changes upwards or downwards with the price of Brent in the market on EBITDA is COP 740,000,000.00 a year on the net profit of COP 370,000,000.00 and counteracting those effects, we would need in terms of the exchange rate, MXN200 more per dollar. So the effect can counteract the impacts of the fall of the Brent price. Moderator00:47:07We have been monitoring constantly the conditions, particular conditions of the price of the oil, the market Brent and WTI, which is of the state. So on those aspects, we've also been monitoring our operations, profits and based on what we've seen, we've announced that as of today and under the current conditions, we don't have to make decisions on the interruption of the production of several of our wells. But there may be decisions ahead, especially with the wells underway and there we will have to be making evaluations and making decisions. So now let's give the floor to Rafael. Thank you, Ricardo and Catherine for your question. Moderator00:48:14I'd like to refer briefly to the Permian. The current Permian is showing good performance now. Remember, we're talking about the year of having a production from '90 to '95. We have completed 35 new wells to date with a plan close to 90 that we have with the Permian. In terms of the breakeven, the production of the Permian is below $50 of WTI. Moderator00:48:53We do have with our partner some strategies to suspend the investment in new wells if for a long period of months we see low prices of WTI. One of the advantages with this is that this these suspensions can be made quickly, and they can be also reactivated quickly, and that gives us high flexibility. To date, we haven't had discussions with the with our partner for the suspension and we continue with our plans. Anyways, most of the production that we expect for the year is with the wells that are already underway, not with the production that comes from new wells. So for now, in the flexibility of CapEx that we have, we don't see the need of cutting back on CapEx or production. Moderator00:49:57Rafael, thank you. And if you allow me, Catherine, Camilo Arco speaking, I'd like to compliment the answers given by our CEO and Rafael. And I'd like to highlight the breakevens. Typically, this is an indicator that is displayed in companies of E and P, pure E and P and they're related to the production costs. As Rafael said, it's very important to keep in mind that adding to Ecopetrol, more than 99% of our wells are capable of operated with breakevens below $55 But we cannot lose sight that today Ecopetrol, as we emphasized in our presentation, this is a group that has different energies. Moderator00:50:55It not only has upstreams, but other segments in hydrocarbons, midstream and downstreams. But it also today incorporates lines, the business lines of energy transmission and roads and energies for transition. So looking at these indicators by the group, perhaps you can find there some of the answers to the differences with the breakevens announced. But sure, we can confirm to you Catherine that after making the analysis and the effects compensated by different segments, the breakeven of the profit of the group is close to $50 per barrel, while the breakeven of the EBITDA is closer to $44 per barrel. Perfect. Moderator00:51:50Thank you so much. Great answers. So let me continue with my second question that relates to the requirement made by Dien. Recently, you showed us the steps that you will be taking with that. And among those steps, before the reconsideration, you have closing the case. Moderator00:52:14I wonder if right then or when specifically Ecopetrol should make a reserve for of those BRL 9,400,000,000.0 if the DEAN or the tax authority does not reconsider and is firm with its ruling. So should Ecopetrol right then make that payment? And in time, how how long do you estimate making this close? Will it be in three months, six months, a year? Just to have an idea in that sense, that question. Moderator00:52:56And I would also like to understand ahead with that new interpretation. Will Ecopetrol have to keep spending every year about 3,600,000,000.0, the ones that you've mentioned? I'd like to confirm this. So independent of what the DN rules in the past, it will Ecopetrol in the future have to be paying those BRL 3,600,000,000.0? And if so, this year, you mentioned that in a report that this is compensated with balances that will be recovered but ahead. Moderator00:53:36Is it normal to have these types of balance to be recovered? Or is this just a onetime payment, not for 2025, but afterwards, after this figure, will it go to Ps. 4,000,000,000 additional? That's my second question, gentlemen. Okay, Catherine. Moderator00:53:58Again, thank you. This is Camilo Arco. And this question with the scope that you're giving us will allow us to clarify several things for everybody that's joining us in this call today and that are really wondering about this. So let me expand going back to what you've asked. Indeed, in December 2024 and December 20, the DEAN issued an opinion in which there's a change of a doctrine to consider that as of the 01/01/2025, fuels are subject imported fuels are subject to a 19% VAT. Moderator00:54:50This opinion has effects on two perspectives. One, ahead like you mentioned in your question and the other back and it relates to the procedure that we will have to follow from here on. Regarding the procedures ahead, as of January and following this guideline, Ecopetrol has been meeting its responsibility and its tax obligation following what the DEAN has required and has been paying the VAT for importing fuels, gasoline and diesel mainly with 90%. Also, you mentioned another figure and indicates an effort of Ecopetrol at ARS 3 point 6 billion in the year 2025. Of these ARS 3,600,000,000.0, the expectation is that we can recover about 93% of that sum, meaning 3,300,000,000.0 through the recoveries and crosses of balances in favor tax returns from previous years. Moderator00:56:07Going ahead, it's possible that the balance of taxes in favor of Ecopetrol will not only persist, but will increase. Why? Because this tariff of 19% means that we have to pay that percentage over the imports. While the formula of the prices of fuels in Colombia allow us only to recover 5%. So that difference between 519%, meaning 14% necessarily will increase the balance of taxes paid in the future. Moderator00:56:46So surely ahead, we will have to made an effort that can be crossed in real time with the balances of the tax returns or taxes in our favor. Now again, let me refer to the second perspective and it's the impact on previous periods, specifically 2022, '20 '20 '4, which are the statements which are not infirm. So on that claim, a first calculation has been made. We've received special requirements, customs, Indraphicar and Enecopetrol, which add up today to ARS 9,400,000,000.0. Within that sum, 7,000,000,000 are the taxes that we haven't paid, one bill six of Ecopetrol, one of Repicar and the other BRL 2,400,000,000.0 have to do with interest and sanctions. Moderator00:57:52So on this particular item, we're talking about an interpretative difference and we controvert this. So the first thing that follows is to go through the administrative method for which we have to respond before May 12. The special customs requirements we received from Ecopetrol. Those that were received at the Picarro have been answered already. And on this, the Vian should be giving its ruling in the following months, making analysis of what we presented and they will confirm this requirement or they will adjust it. Moderator00:58:40It's called an official liquidation. And this official liquidation is an administrative act and as such, it's acceptable to all legal actions foreseen in the law. So once we have this ruling from the DEAN, we will determine what path we shall continue, which can include the reconsideration that we're asking for along with legal actions as if required, we can have the reposition resources presented and we can even go directly to present a demand before the state council. So this is a judicial process that can take time from two to five years before anything goes through. And let me talk about the importance of the reserves. Moderator00:59:49When it comes to reserves of payments, they will of course depend of how the process develops and the need of the final ruling. And the payment has to be given by the state council if necessary. Our consideration today, it's worth saying and based on the opinions given by attorneys, the possibility that we will be given a green light with this is high. Why? Because the eventual provision will be with the requirement of the external auditor and that provision or reserve will depend on the development of the process and the possibility of success of defending the arguments by, Ecopetrol. Moderator01:00:47So to end, we're in a very preliminary stage. We only received the requirement to pay for especially 2022 and 2024. And first, we have to go through the administrative path and that the legal path. So we hope that the effects on the accounting and the payment eventual payment will take two to five years as I said before. And I hope with this, I have responded several of your questions related to the payment of that VAT. Moderator01:01:30Thank you. We also have Daniel Guardiola from BGT. Hello, good morning, Ricardo, Camilo, Rafael. I have two brief questions, so my other colleagues have time to ask questions. First, what's the sensibility for the production of Ecopetrol keeping in mind if the company executes a CapEx reduction of $500,000,000 that you have with your austerity plan? Moderator01:02:00And second question, Camilo, could you please share with us what's the rent cash breakeven of the upstream business considering, of course, the CapEx that you expect to assign to this business this year? These are my two questions. Thank you. This is Rafael Guzman, and thank you for your question. Moderator01:02:28As Camilo said, 99% of the production has a breakeven of $55 per barrel. Now in terms of investment, with the flexibility of CapEx we've announced, we will get priority to the CapEx, especially for those investments that create new production. And so far, we haven't seen having to cut back on our CapEx for production. We'd also like to give an example related to the prior question with the Permian, which we expect will be 90,000 to 95,000 barrels a day. And with those new wells that we have, it's close to 8%, nine % of that production. Moderator01:03:25And we also mentioned that we have drilled 75 wells this year. So this example also illustrates our effort to maintain capital in the projects that remain in production. Okay, Daniel. And with regards to the financial question, I think it was covered by Rafael when we discussed the break even maybe it's important to mention that the expectations of the investments plan related with CapEx. We announced to the market an investment plan that was approved at the end of twenty twenty four and for this 2025 from $6,000,000,000 to $6,800,000,000 Of these $6,800,000,000 there's a chance or the flexibility better of $500,000,000 And over that, perhaps we should emphasize that we will give priorities to investments that protect production and reserves, firstly. Moderator01:04:42And secondly, we will give priority to those investments on projects that can contribute the internal generation right away, meaning projects preferably in operation stages, brown fit projects that have positive EBITDAs and increase the generation, the internal generation of the company. And depending of this CapEx level, if possible to stay in this range without ruling out the chance depending of the performance of the prices. We will have even a more drastic plan of that CapEx depends the final EBITDA that we'll have. But as Rafael said, the breakeven of the EBITDA is below $55 a barrel. Thank you, Rafael and Camilo. Moderator01:05:51Have a great day. Thank you. The next questions will be in English. So we remind all the analysts to choose on the interpretation, I can, the language. Otherwise, we cannot hear you. Moderator01:06:12UBS has a question. Mr. Vascon Sejes, ask your question. Analyst01:06:17Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Two follow ups here on this breakeven discussion. The first one, at what point would Ecopetrol start reviewing its strategy? We just discussed it quite a lot about the 55 breakeven, but for how long would it need to remain below such levels for Ecopetrol to change this strategy? Analyst01:06:40I assume, of course, would not be like a week or a month, but I think the question is exactly how is the company's evaluation process to change strategy or the approach here? A second question, actually a follow-up on this first one. Where do you view all the opportunities to reduce CapEx and costs in case the branch remains lower for longer? Is it the $500,000,000 in the upstream business that you just mentioned on the slides the full potential or there could be other opportunities? And which business would you prioritize the most? Analyst01:07:16And which other business you also see potential to reduce CapEx or expenses if required? Those are the two questions. Thank you. Moderator01:07:33Thank you for your questions. Let's refer again. This is Camilo Arco, I'm the CFO. I'd like to begin by quickly referring to the ranges of reviewing the strategy as you've mentioned and especially I'll talk about the eventual revision of the financial plan for 2025 and the three years, three subsequent years. The most important thing I'd like to highlight here is that we constantly monitor the performance of the market. Moderator01:08:14And there is a range determined from $60 to $65 of a barrel Brent, which leads us to take measures like the ones we've announced. These ranges, it's important to mention, are not specific ranges. It's not that the price of Brent in some determined days will touch this level. Instead, we're talking about average ranges for the year, the full year based on this first quarter and the forecast that we have for the rest of the year. So while we reach the average ranges for the full year closer to $60 in addition to the measures we've mentioned, there could be a chance or we can evaluate the chance of re ascensioning or changing the budget of 2025 when we see that the deviations are material enough to not meet the goals established for this year. Moderator01:09:27So again, beyond the discussion of the breakeven, when it comes to the planning and budget policy of the company, the range of $60 per barrel average of Brent for next year gives us a chance of evaluating the re sanction of the financial plan for 2025. And now let's give the floor on the opportunities of investment that you mentioned. No, this is Rafael Guzman again. These $500,000,000 that we mentioned of CapEx, it's not only for upstream business, it also impacts the mid and downstream and the other Ecopetrol businesses even in corporate. And I'd like to mention also something about that 1% of production that has a breakeven above BRL55 million. Moderator01:10:26We've talked about the BRL99 million a lot. But let's talk about that 1% because there we have important actions. Part of the new goal that we have in efficiencies, which is another ARS1 billion is for higher efficiencies included in these fields of more breakeven. Also in these fields, we have investment commitments for our partners, not Apeco Petrol, but made by the partner which will increase the production of these fields and therefore will decrease the breakeven. And we're not only looking at fields entirely, but also the production specific of wells and certain facilities to maintain our production levels throughout the year, including with the current prices that we are reviewing. Moderator01:11:25And I'd like to complement my answer related to your second question. Let me say that, of course, an eventual resumption of the plan would lead us to review the CapEx in every business line. This revision would be cross sectional. Today, what we propose with the Brent expectations we have is $500,000,000 of flexibility to help us to be in the lower range of the financial plan proposed. But while there is a persistent reduction of the prices, we can take more drastic measures, again, to protect the production and reserves. Moderator01:12:18But when more necessary, we can intervene when it comes to the profitability and the breakeven of different wells. So that's why we have a detailed analysis per asset. And we Analyst01:13:22Has the government used sovereign titles or any type of short term securities to pay down the bank balance? Those are the questions. Thank you. Moderator01:13:35Rafael Guzman. Moderator01:13:40Good morning, Eduardo. This is Rafael Guzman. In the first quarter, we had a cost below $12 It's specifically $11.25 That's we're announcing that we will keep it below $12 for the entire year. Most of this also comes with the increase of the efficiencies of 1,000,000,000. So the mechanisms are to reduce maintenance of subsoil, increasing the period in which you have to change the subsoil equipment. Moderator01:14:17Second, efficiencies in energy, which we have been achieving using less energy and having lower rates of energy, thanks to the commercial management made. When it comes to we have really different engines that we're placing in the pumps of the subsoils of the wells. We also have renegotiations of maintenance contracts, reusing the materials to make the maintenance at the facilities on the surface. And this is also, as we saw in the first quarter, goes hand in hand with a higher exchange rate of the pesos, which helps us a lot significantly in these lifting costs. Moderator01:15:10Yes. When Moderator01:15:12it comes to your question, Juan, when it comes to the form of payment of the test No. The form of payment of the through the government to make these PEPEC payments through debt but through crossing dividends or direct payments. Really, the Ministry of Treasury of the Nation determines how the payment is made. However, it's a good opportunity to mention good news related to this, which is part of the presentation. Firstly, Costs in twenty twenty four, meaning we received the first payment of BRL 2,200,000,000.0 and a second payment of BRL Moderator01:16:2424 Moderator01:16:26reaching BRL 7,600,000,000.0 full. The compensation of effective 2024, these were paid and fully received by Ecopetrol. With regards to the some received in the second payment, these were paid in short term titles, which were liquidated and sold to the market through banking intermediaries. With the remaining payments of BRL 2,200,000,000.0, some of these tied off are part of the simultaneous transaction made and are used as collateral for the liquidity credits obtained. For this year, 2025, given the circumstances and prices, our expectation is that the causation of FX will drop substantially. Moderator01:17:24Although last year, we had $7,600,000,000 our projections with current prices and that the tax this year will cost BRL 3,000,000,000 approximately in favor of Ecopetrol, closer to the lower rates. And over this, we'll have to wait to what option of payment is determined by the nation. We also have with us, Mr. Jose from Goldman Sachs. Mr. Moderator01:17:58Jose, Costello, ask your question. Analyst01:18:00I have a follow-up on Eduardo's question on the form of payment of a pack. Recently, flow mentioned that you guys were being paid with some liquid instruments, right, as you just explained. I just want to confirm my understanding that you kind of liquidated those already and having cash in hands, right? And my second question is on the CapEx flexibility you guys talked about. I understand you have some $500,000,000 in CapEx flexibility where you can adjust not only on the upstream segment, but also on the downstream and so on. Analyst01:18:35But I would like to get a sense on what is the impact of production, assuming you would cost or you would cut investments on the upstream division? Thank you. Moderator01:18:50Thank you for your questions. This is Camilo Varco. To answer your question about Quebec and to confirm that indeed, the payment of Quebec received BRL 5,400,000,000.0 was liquidated already. The titles were placed in the market. And today, it's part of our cash flow and the liquidity of the Ecopetrol Group. Moderator01:19:19And with regards to your second question, I can anticipate that there is no impact on production. But let's listen to Rafael to complement Yes, you're right, Camilo. Rafael, this is Rafael, Rafael, when comes to the 500,000 that we have in CapEx, we still have the same production goal. Keep that in mind. Thank you. Moderator01:20:32Okay. Okay. Understand because you're saying you're pay 3.6, but you should recover 3,300,000,000.0. I'd like to see what's the net effect on the cash that this has on the company this first Working capital reverts to 3. How can we see this as a net effect on the cash flow? Moderator01:21:03Will we have an effect on working capital of a billion pesos? I'd like to see those net effects you said that a method to protect the cash flow, you would have 2,000,000,000 for working capital. However, what we see now require there is a requirement of the Diaanda National paying you a capital with debt titles, and you're trying to change those titles to act, making that effort. So where are you where are these two working capital 2,000,000,000 pesos working capital coming from? And third, I'd like to thank you if you could give us more information of that from that leverage of six times. Moderator01:22:09With the debt ratings, we'll see that the rating firms have decreased the stand alone rating of Ecopetrol and two Is a very high debt. So what about your But as soon would you talk with the rate of first ahead? Is normal. So To see that it has a higher leverage level compared to other oil companies. So if you could clarify this for me regarding the conversations you have with the rating agencies and how to push that six times that you're talking about. Moderator01:22:58Thank Moderator01:23:00you. This is Camilo Barrico again. With regards to your first question related to the TAN, the tax authority, you have summarized it perfectly. This year, indeed, the payment of the tax from January to December means an effort made by us of BRL 3,600,000,000.0. Although we have balances in favor of us of the bat close to BRL 5,000,000,000 today, and it's possible to cross these in the next months. Moderator01:23:35Practically, in the next thirty sixty days, we've been able to cross the taxes in charge of that. By the end of twenty twenty five, if you said, of those 3.6, we expect to recover 3.3, which would imply a total effort of Ecopetrol in the cash of 500,000,000. And ahead if this keeps on happening, And we know this will happen given the difference of rates to pay the VAT versus the difference of rate to collect the VAT. It's sure that we will have balances of taxes in our favor, significant ones. So in the next sixty days, we will have to pay the bat with balances of taxes in our favor. Moderator01:24:31So that covers your first question. Your second question is related to managing working capital and the BRL 2,000,000,000 that our CEO referred to. Fundamentally has to do with part of our contingency plan under the protection of our cash flow and ensuring our liquidity. And this fundamentally has to do with an efficient centralization of the groups. It has to do with paying the dividends of the affiliates, several payments of Ecopetrol to its subsidiaries, capitalization of subsidiaries, which are deferred in time and will be more adjusted to the timetables required in our investment plans. Moderator01:25:26And really the management of inventories of accounts payable and receivable are measures guided to increase the efficiency of this cash pooling of the subsidiaries and managing the accounts and the inventories as part of the working capital. Our expectation is that here we can increase by R2 billion the total this year, the amount of the cash available. And now your third question related to the debt, your question is very pertinent. And one of our main working goals is that today, yes, the rating firms are still applying a criteria, which in our opinion, every time seems to be less technical because indeed as a group, we incorporate ISA, which is a group that contributes the most proportion or the most of the debt. And since ESA is regulated, it can leverage those investments four point times its EBITDA. Moderator01:26:54And today, this implies a reading that's not precise when it comes to the indicator of the debt EBITDA of the Ecopetrol Group. And as you said, within the indicator of the industry, 2.2 times looks high, yes. But when you exclude the part of the debt of Ecopetrol, the indicator of Ecopetrol is 1.6 times in terms of debt. So that makes it look high to a lower range of debt. This is an ongoing conversation that we have with the rating firms. Moderator01:27:38And what they've said is that while the contribution of companies like ESA and Senate, which is above 42% of the EBITDA, surely this discussion can be given more and more. Our expectation is to adjust the methodology used by the rating firms. So they keep in mind these factors and allow us to have a depth space of a group that has energy with oil. Thank you so much. Today, we have Andres Cardona from Citibank. Moderator01:28:19Mr. Cardona, you can ask. Good morning, everyone. I have three questions. First, recently, we saw in the company making several acquisitions in the arts segment, renewables that can possibly close another assets. Moderator01:28:43I understand to be sold. So tell us about the appetite for more inorganic growth with an oil price at $60 which and you've got a barrel of $73 per barrel and also with the effect of the liability in the first question. Second question, could you clarify how many barrels are consolidated in Acacia in the first quarter because of the higher participation? And third, the media is saying that Shell could potentially leave the offshore project. Are you capable to face the development of this project alone? Moderator01:29:40And what permits, environmental permits are pending so that the project can move to the next stage? And how feasible is it to have those permits because of the recent postures of the and the ministry of the environment, etcetera? So these are my three questions. Thank you. Thank you for taking them. Moderator01:30:17Andres, thank you for your question. This is Julian Lemos. I'm the Corporate President of Strategy. Firstly, as Ecopetrol, we have an investments plan built as you've said with a Brent of $73 yes. And all of the inorganic investments we've evaluated and constantly evaluated have to meet working discipline criteria. Moderator01:30:53There is no doubt right now, we have to review those opportunities that we're seeing. But we are also convinced that just as we've hydrocarbons and other projects in renewable energies, have to review them and to find a way to make the progress because they do contribute to the financial sustainability of the group. And of course, we cannot just leave them suddenly. Surely, the setting will make us be more strict with our criteria and more creative with the mechanisms that we can have to carry out these transactions. I mean, cash generation, structuring, debt or the rotation of our portfolio. Moderator01:31:56For the next two questions, let's hear Rafael Guzman. Andres, good morning. Rafael Guzman speaking. For your question on Acacias, yes, comparing the last quarter of last year with the first quarter of this year, we have an increase of 16,000 barrels of crude oil national of Ecopetrol Group. Of these 10,600 correspond to 45%, which was the acquisition we made of Repsol. Moderator01:32:33Let me highlight in this field of Acacias, since we have 100% of the synergies that we have between this field and Ichimene, we have 200,000 barrels in addition. So it's not only the result, but it's because of the synergies. And the increase of crude oil in Colombia comes from Calle Sur. The next question regarding the development of the discoveries of KGG in The Caribbean. Yes, Shell will see its participation to Ecopetrol. Moderator01:33:18And firstly, yes, we are capable to assume the operation on our own. The development has more with the engineering with the national transportation system and procedures with the Ministry of Mines and the CREG to have this connection mainly. As far as the environmental permits, let's hear Elsa Haimitz, who can talk about this. Thank you, Rafael. Good morning. Moderator01:33:52Andres, with regards to the environmental permits pending, right now, we are underway with the exploration permit and also the environmental and to connect the cast offshore with the national transportation system. And within this big process, which is the study of environmentalizes, the first part has to do with the prior giving disclosures with the communities that are nearby. So right now, we're designing the connection that duct, that oil duct, the pipeline and managing with the ANCP, the certification of the communities that will be impacted to proceed with the prior consultation. Once we have agreements with the communities, we will present their request of the environmental permits. And if it's feasible to have them, yes, it is. Moderator01:35:01And we've been working with on this. Thank you. Could you please precise? Is there an appetite for new operations? I know you have several underway, but ahead, does Ecopetrol have an appetite for new opportunities of growth inorganic given the prices of oil, which are much lower and the risk of liability. Moderator01:35:36Andres, as I've mentioned, the appetite is there. Yes, we have strategic goals to incorporate reserves, inorganic and megawatts and constantly seeking opportunities of diversification and to enhance our portfolio. And again, we want to do is to be much more strict with the criteria we have you we use and we have to be very creative. So again, we will we are evaluating options. We are aware that the moment of the moment now, but we're also aware of the needs and the strategic goals of the organization and how the M and A is very important to that. Moderator01:36:26Let me complement Andres related to the eventual contingency of the DN. It's important to say that the perspective, the future perspective of paying the VAT doesn't really have a big impact on our cash flow. And remember, it was MXN 300,000 million in 2025. But when it comes to the controversy rising from the interpretation of the opinion given by Dien, the effects that could take place eventually again will be seen on a long term basis once the rulings are made and the judicial process takes place. So we will be taking the actions and using the resources foreseen in the law. Moderator01:37:27And this will take no less than two years. Thank you. Next question from Sergio Torres from Correores Daviviente. Mr. Torres, good morning. Moderator01:37:43Thank you for receiving my questions. I have one. With what you mentioned that on February 28, Ecopetrol entered a contract for regasification. Could you please give us more details about that contract beyond its capability? How much will cost will be the cost annual cost for Ecopetrol? Moderator01:38:15And for how long will you have this service, contracted? Good morning. This is David Rihano, the Executive VP of Energies for Transition. Thank you, Sergio for your question. As we've announced before, this is a contract in which Ecopetrol acquired services of regasification And this decision was taken keeping in mind all of our working capital requirements. Moderator01:38:52When it comes to this particular case, first, it's to acquire the regasification rights, which has been announced. Later and as we've said also in several sectorial settings, we will proceed to acquire the LNG that will be placed at the facilities of regasification and long term contracts under the best price conditions. And domestically, that amount of gas will be sold. That way the group expects to generate value obviously through this transaction, specifically on the duration. This contract has a commitment for five years counted as the moment when the facility is commissioned. Moderator01:39:49The detail of the price of the regasification is confidential, however. But our CEO recently said that this year we will begin the commercialization process publicly so everybody can participate. Here we have Alejandra from JPMorgan. I'd like to understand on the potential of acquiring new debt, you said for MA and also the possibility of going to international markets. The current cost is much more expensive and different. Moderator01:40:43And I understand that you'll be more cautious with M and As. But I'd like to understand if there's a chance of going out to international markets to issue debt? Or do you want to remain more cautious? Or if there's if it's if off the table to go outside? Thank you, Alejandra. Moderator01:41:10This is Camilo Arco, the CFO. With regards to the additional debt, I'd like to remind you that our investment plan organic does not have an increased debt. In the inorganic component, we have confirmed even under these circumstances that every opportunity of inorganic investment is being evaluated very, very closely and with the caution that you have mentioned. This means that we prioritize the investments, which today have the capability to contribute and generate enough to leverage the investment itself, meaning projects that are under operation and have an EBITDA that's enough to serve the debt. We work in each of these opportunities looking at the finance, looking at the evaluation of everything. Moderator01:42:24On this, it's also worth mentioning that this year, we have formalized transactions or closed transactions, which are financed also. We referred in the presentation to the financing of $500,000,000 which fundamentally is part of the cash of the group, but will cover part of the investment made in the CPO-nine asset. And in the future, what we foresee is that we will try to see financing options that are structured more in banks. We monitor constantly the market only if there are conditions and levels of rates that will allow us to go out to the market this year, we will be evaluating But right now, we don't see them. Moderator01:43:33And really, we're focused if we have to finance inorganic opportunities, these will be structured finance specific operations, mainly using banking bank related financing. Thank you. Next question from Andres Duarte from Corfin Columbiana. Andres, the floor is yours. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking my questions and for your presentations. Moderator01:44:11I have three follow-up questions. First, since Ricardo Roa, the CEO, just remembered that the sensibility not only comes from the prices, but also from the devaluation. I'd like to know what exchange rate are you assuming for the breakeven of $55 per barrel? Second question, please explain again in case you did, I did understand it well. The component of the BRL 2,200,000,000.0 used as collateral related to what you talked about the PEPIC. Moderator01:44:55Please explain it what that consists of. I did understand it. And third and last, has to do with M and As, but more focus not on oil and gas. Could you specifically refer to Monameros, electrical generators, Internexa? And I'm asking because Isa yesterday said that it had discussions with that company and Monametos. Moderator01:45:27I don't know if that was initiative of the company itself, I guess not. But could you please refer to possible acquisitions like those? Thank you. Okay, Andres, thank you for your questions. This is Camilo Arco again. Moderator01:45:52And let me answer two of your three questions mainly. The exchange rate used that we for in our investment plan is 4,150 a dollar. And the sensibility over the variabilities indeed is made using this rate, this exchange rate. As far as your second question, we're talking about simultaneous operations. In other words, these are operations of short term financing with a collateral, in this case, short term tests and long term that we have in position to guarantee the payment of the short term obligation. Moderator01:46:46Meaning, this is a credit line from treasury guaranteed with collateral for which we give the short term test. So there, we can still identify the opposition. We're talking about the payments of PEPEC, the MXN 2,200,000,000.0 that we received in March to pay the first PEPEC payment is used as a collateral for the test credit. With the drop of the exchange rates with of our central bank, surely this transaction will be liquidated, will be made liquid like we did with the other test titled. So again, this has been placed in the market. Moderator01:47:39These were liquidated or sold through the brokers bank of the banks. So these are the two questions that I have addressed for you. Thank you, Camilo. Andres, this is Julian Milamos, the Corporate VP new strategies and businesses. So let me talk about three aspects for you. Moderator01:48:04First, M and A is a confidential nature for us. But let me talk with you with what I can address firstly. Ecopetrol has not announced that it will buy electrical companies. There are two potential businesses for remote self generation to cover the needs of electrical need of Ecopetrol itself. So with that, we will continue with two projects that are subject to the precedent conditions to carry them out. Moderator01:48:42And just as we have strategic goals to incorporate reserves, we also have strategic goals to incorporate megawatts that are renewable for our own consumption. With regards to other topics, I'd say that at CoPetro constantly evaluates options throughout the oil chain, petrochemicals and fertilizers. Throughout the analysis made recurrently, regularly, we monitor the opportunities out there and the opportunities that are not out there. And I'm not talking about one company specifically here, but I'd like to underscore that our company and our process really does evaluate the options to diversify and capture value throughout the entire chain. With Intranexa, you mentioned what ESA said yesterday. Moderator01:49:45Let me tell you what President Roa perhaps in the last call mentioned. The conversation is out there, yes. It's covered by confidentiality, however. And when we have a potential agreement with ISA, we will report it to the market. We can't announce anything now. Moderator01:50:04Thank you. You. Thank you so much for your answers. Next question comes from Stephanie Amosqueda from Credit One Capital. Good morning, everyone, and thank you so much for the time. Moderator01:50:21I have three questions. I think they're quite brief. Let me begin with one that's a follow-up of what Andres asked and it's we've heard comments in the market of a potential purchase of Wimpeche. Do you have any comments about that? Thank you, Stephanie. Moderator01:50:46This is Julia Lemas, the Corporate VP of new businesses. What I can mention is that we're waiting for the compliance of the precedent conditions made in the contract with Enel. The authorization of the integration by the SEC has been made. And when we reach the precedent conditions, we can make the announcements and the details of the transaction. I'd like to underline that this is not buying an electricity plant. Moderator01:51:21It's for the remote electricity to serve the electrical consumption only of Ecopetrol. Remember, Ecopetrol is the main consumer electrical energy of the country. So these types of acquisitions do contribute to the power supply strategy that we have on a medium and long term basis. Perfect. Thank you. Moderator01:51:44The other question is on the midstream that we haven't discussed. What impacts do you see on the midstream on revenue given the lower prices of oil today? Good morning, Stephanie. I am the President of SETI. What we see on a short term basis, the impact as well. Moderator01:52:23And as Rafael said, the production does go hand in hand with our expectations of the year in terms of revenue. So you mean that there's no indexation of the rates on the oil prices? No. Perfect. Thank you so much. Moderator01:52:40And to end, going back to the regasification, I understand that you're sub hiring the capacity of regasifying. But how would the or better, can you clarify what the licenses that you would need to have this regasification and milestones needed for this. This is David Villanue. I'm the Executive VP of Energies for Transition. As we've said before and you've underlined with the Pacific, we are hiring the services of regasification in which the contractor is in charge of building the facilities, operating them and maintaining them to meet the availabilities of the service demanded in the contract. Moderator01:53:43As far as the permits, the contractor already has them, especially the environmental authority has certified that they don't need the environmental license in the facilities at Buga. And the permits in Buenaventura are in effect. So according to the timeline of the contractor, the construction will begin June 28 this year. So that way, we can have the commissioning of the contract or even before the date, pacted. Great. Moderator01:54:27Thank you so much for your answers. Thank you. There are no more questions. So now let's read the questions of the chat. Peter asks, can you share an update on the discussions made on importing of GNL? Moderator01:54:50Again, this is David Rihanna. In addition to what we've mentioned in this call on the contracting regasification in The Pacific And as we've also mentioned in the sector, there are two additional initiatives in The Caribbean that seek to make use of facilities of Ecopetrol. One is called Ballena LNG, which will connect one floating unit for regasification to the Chuchupave platform, which already is connected to Ballena and to the National Grid of Gas that's managed by TGI and in The Caribbean and also by Promigas. And then the second project, The Caribbean, it's called Covenas LNG, which will use the facilities of Senate in that area of the country and will connect to the gas system through the conversion of the group, which Jobo Vasconia. This is advancing, yes. Moderator01:55:59We already have conceptual designs and we'll make the consultations before the environmental authorities and sea authorities to obtain permits quickly and to have this regasification of one or both or by 2027. In parallel, we've begun this year the requirements for the LNG in the international market. We already have nonbinding offers of LNG providers overseas. And while we can obtain the permits, we can get the molecule. Alejandro Sanchez from Allianza says, do you plan to incorporate reserves this year for the Gato Do Mato project? Moderator01:57:00Are these approved, probable or possible accounting wise? Could you give us more details about the situation of the Barrancabermeja refinery because the charge dropped 8% year, but the plants began only three days before the first quarter ended. This is Rafael Guzman. Let me answer the first question of Gato do Mato. Indeed, we are going to incorporate proven reserves this year given the decision of investment on the project. Moderator01:57:42Last year, we had certified BRL112 million barrels of oil for contingency. The contingency was the approval of the development plan from the partners, which did take place this quarter. Most of these resources will go to proven reserves and that the other part to non proven reserves. Good morning. This is Felipe Trejo, VP of Industrial Processes. Moderator01:58:18The decrease of 8% in the charge of the refinery of Barrancabermeja in the first quarter is for three things. One, the schedule stop of the oil and the hydro treatment, which stopped the operation. The second is the lower availability of light crude oil, especially in Cardiolimon, which does hit or hurt the processing like the lubricants and the paraffins. And third relates to the maintenance of the UAP two, which began at the end of quarter days before the operations were adjusted and this affected the availability. But it's important to keep in mind that this is a seventy four day overhaul stoppage. Moderator01:59:13It's part of the timetable or schedule. And we expect with the OP2 contribution very, very important after the second semester. Oriana Cabot from Balance Sets. On the midstream business, is there any relevant update on the tariffs that should take place for the twenty twenty three, twenty twenty seven period? What's the impact expected from Ana and Rubiales? Moderator01:59:56Good morning. This is Aleksandre Cadena again. I think that there is no update on the rates or tariffs, but I'd like to remind you the process that we have experienced to update the tariff. It's been a year since the resolution was issued and the agents, the producers and the companies of transportation presented comments about it and they were given on time to the Ministry of Mining. The number of comments were so many that the ministry started to review them with different agents, meetings, regular meetings have been held, technical meetings to review the impact on the tariffs. Moderator02:00:54But now there is no estimated date for final resolution. It's important to clarify that meanwhile, we apply the tariffs that are enforced and in August 26, the ministry published Resolution two eighty five, which enabled an annual tariff that was included in the prior methodology. This was made as of September 1. It's important to highlight that this is part of what explains the higher EBITDA of the midstream seen compared to the first quarter of last year. Felipe Gomez from Ashburn asks, why does the plan presented by Ecopetrol to 02/1940 has a CapEx for ESA almost half of what ESA presented for its own 02/1940 strategy? Moderator02:02:02Good morning. On the question regarding the environmental licenses against the Frontera Energy and Ecopetrol, It's a point to highlight that the procedure just began. ANLA has not charged any of these companies. We are in the initial phases. Once the charges are established, we will respond them and defend them under the administrative proceeding. Moderator02:02:42Camilo Arco, again, the CFO. And let me answer your question related to the investments plan announced recently by ESA, talking about its twenty four year strategy versus the figures that possibly we have on investment plans of this company. I'd like to mention that, yes, the strategic investment plan disclosed recently by ESA is reviewed and adjusted. And it's conciliates with the investment plans Ecopetrol's investment plan by 02/1940. And there are major challenges not only with the investments that are growing, but to renew some concessions. Moderator02:03:39Now at Ecopetrol, we are analyzing and reviewing the strategy And surely there we can align the investment plans that go between billion and MXN33 billion. No, 28,000,000,000 and $33,000,000,000 for '25 to 02/1940. Allow me to end this call. Thank all of you for joining us with the following messages. Ecopetrol firmly bets on its advancements plan with the flexibility announced, enhancing the fundamentals of the business of hydrocarbons even in the middle of the complexities that we're seeing. Moderator02:04:35Second, we'll remain the idea of growing our businesses. We have a discipline with our working capital and the idea is always to benefit society and our shareholders. And we will continue measuring, monitoring, sensibilizing and evaluating every element that can hurt the liquidity and leverage growth that can hit or hurt the company, which has to do with a billion pesos that we will reach in savings at the end of the year. And all this so together, we can build and making our big make this company the company of all. Thank you. Moderator02:05:31Thank you all. And with this, we end this earnings call for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. Thank you for joining us. You can leave now.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesRicardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEORafael GuzmánEVP of HydrocarbonsDavid Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for TransitionCamilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value OfficerAnalystsModeratorAnalystPowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallEcopetrol Q1 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipants Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K) Ecopetrol Earnings HeadlinesEcopetrol S.A. 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Email Address About EcopetrolEcopetrol (NYSE:EC) operates as an integrated energy company. The company operates through four segments: Exploration and Production; Transport and Logistics; Refining, Petrochemical and Biofuels; and Electric Power Transmission and Toll Roads Concessions. It engages in the exploration and production of oil and gas; transportation of crude oil, motor fuels, fuel oil, and other refined products, including diesel, jet, and biofuels; processing and refining crude oil; distribution of natural gas and LPG; sale of refined and petrochemical products; supplying of electric power transmission services; design, development, construction, operation, and maintenance of road and energy infrastructure projects; and supplying of information technology and telecommunications services. As of December 31, 2022, the company had approximately 9,127 kilometers of crude oil and multi-purpose pipelines. It also produces and commercializes polypropylene resins and compounds, and masterbatches; and offers industrial service sales to customers and specialized management services. It has operations in Colombia, the United States, Asia, Central America and the Caribbean, Europe, and South America. The company was formerly known as Empresa Colombiana de Petróleos and changed its name to Ecopetrol S.A. in June 2003. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Natalia, and I will be your operator today. Welcome to Ecopetrol's earnings conference call, in which we will discuss the main financial and operating results of the first quarter of twenty twenty five. There will be a question and answer session at the end of the presentation. Before we begin, it is important to mention that the comments in this call by Ecopetrol's senior management include projections of the company's future performance. Operator00:00:32These projections do not constitute any commitment as to future results nor do they take into account risks or uncertainties that could materialize. As a result, Ecopetrol assumes no responsibility in the event that future results are different from the projections shared on this conference call. The call will be led by Mr. Ricardo Rova, CEO of Ecopetrol Rafael Guzman, Executive Vice President of Hydrocarbons Camilo Arco, CFO and David Regano, Executive Vice President of Transition Energies. Thank you for your attention. Operator00:01:13Mr. Roa, you may begin your conference. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:01:19Welcome to the first quarter results call of the Ecopetrol Group for 2025. The first months of the year were marked by high global uncertainty with a notable volatility in Brent prices, driven by geopolitical tensions and an increased supply from OPEC plus. These factors required the activation of different plants to address lower price scenarios. At Ecopetrol, we Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:01:49have Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:01:49historically anticipated these challenges with a strong strategy, diversifying our customer base, enhancing our commercial management and maintaining operational and capital discipline. This approach has enabled us to navigate the environment confidentially and take advantage of the opportunities that emerged. In the hydrocarbons line, we closed the quarter with an average production of seven and forty five thousand barrels of oil equivalent per day, in line with our annual goals and maintaining a growing trend despite local events. We are moving ahead with our exploration campaign and have achieved important milestones in The Caribbean offshore and our operations in Brazil, reporting our commitment to growth and the sustainability of reserves. In transportation, we maintained our resilience, controlling social events, preserving operational continuity while developing key infrastructure to reduce the time and cost of logistics for our crude, oil and pine products. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:03:09Regarding our refineries, as anticipated, the throughput was temporarily affected by scheduled maintenance shutdowns according to the plan, ensuring safe, reliable and efficient operations. The refining margin decreased by 3.9 per barrel compared to the first quarter of the last year, explained by 53% due to product differentials, 30% due to the scheduled maintenance, 14% due to unplanned operational events and 3% due to other events. Among these events, there were energy issues at the Cartagena refinery where we maintained our mitigation planning progress. Let's move to the next slide, please. We firmly believe that natural gas is a key energy source for the energy transition and the electrification of the country. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:04:15We continue contributing to national supply with significant progress in the development of shore gas, along with important milestones such as the signing of the regasification services contract on Colombian Pacific Coast. This project has a potential of 60 gigabtud and is expected to begin operations in the second quarter of twenty twenty six. We are also advising the Caribbean reclassification project, which will leverage Ecopetrol Group's assets to commercialize up to two fifty giga Btud with an estimated starting 2027. Our Executive Vice President for the Energy Transition will provide more details about these projects shortly. I want to highlight that Ecopetrol Group supplied approximately 68% of the country's natural gas demand during the first quarter, reaffirming our critical role in the Colombian's energy security. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:05:24In renewable energy, we remain committed to achieve 900 megawatts of cell generation capacity this year, actually expecting to surpass 1,000 megawatts. This will allow us to continue reducing energy cost in our operation and to maintain our position as the leading cell generator of renewable energy in the country. During the first quarter, our energy efficiency program generate savings of nearly COP 23,000,000,000, reaching a total 21 petajoules since the program began in 2018. Finally, we continue to achieve managed environmental licenses and the complementary regulations required to legally enable our energy transition projects. Let's move on the next slide. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:06:18Financially, this was a stable quarter despite lower Brent prices. I want to highlight several aspects. First, we continue to strengthen our efficiency program, optimizing cost and generating more value for every invested dollar as part of the company's future, which is reinforced to face current scenarios. Secondly, I want to highlight the progress of the investment plan for the year, which has reached near to the 20% execution. This progress has been affected by external events in the Rubiales Castilla and Canosur fields. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:06:59However, we have achieved important advances in efficiencies through new initiatives in drilling and completion in our operations in the Permian and through circular economic projects involving material reuse. Thirdly, I want to mention that we received early payments from the fuel price stabilization fund by the government covering the balances of the second, third and fourth quarters in 2024. In addition, the lower accommodation during this quarter reflects both the government's commitment and Ecopetrol's effective management and last, the payment of dividends to our shareholders, demonstrating our financial strength. Let's move to the next slide, please. In terms of corporate governance, I want to highlight the results of the General Shareholders' Meeting held in March. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:08:00The Board of Directors were formed with members of extensive experience in key areas of the company, completing all the directors provided for in the status mostly independent. The new directors are already familiarizing themselves with the strategy and operation of DecoPetroglob and have reiterated their commitment to continue generating competitive returns for our investors. Additionally, we published our integrated management report and the annual corporate governance report, which includes our main initiatives, goals and results in this area. The approved dividends was within the range of our internal policy, balancing returns to shareholders with the need to continue investing in our operations and strategy. On the environmental front, we continue to reduce our greenhouse gas emission in Scopes one and two. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:09:03Our water reuse capacity continues to grow and remains at levels comparable to the most demanding international standards. With these results, we reaffirm that Ecopetrol remains a solid company strategy for the country and prepared for future challenges. I now give the floor to Rafael Guzman, who will present the results of the Hydrocarbons business line. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:09:29Thank you, Ricardo. As of 2025, we have a 17% progress in our exploration investments with four wells finished and two more wells in drilling operations, out of 10 planned for the year. Key highlights for this investment include: Operations Negua off zero block with the successful completion of the initial formation testing of the Serious 2 ST2 well. This allowed us to confirm the reservoir conditions and identify a production potential higher than initially estimated. Additionally, as part of the development environment and licensing process for the serious discovery, we have successfully completed the required consultation process with the 116 communities certified by the national authority for prior consultation. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:10:21Furthermore, drilling began on the Buenos Huerta-one well. This well located 11 kilometers from the Sirius discovery aims to test the presence of gas in an exploration concept different from that of the aforementioned discovery. As for the onshore activity, oil present was confirmed in the Zorzal Este-two well drilled in 2023 by Heoparque in partnership with Ocol in the Llanos Prentalis area. The well is currently undergoing full test. Regarding the offshore assets in the South Caribbean, where Shell has been our operator partner in the coal fired, purple angel and Fuerte Sul blocks, we have been conducting a review since February 2025 to assess the best alternatives to continue executing the investments. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:11:11In light of a potential decision by the partner to divest its interest. These projects are a priority for Ecopetrol and have solid technical and economic viability. The next steps in the development of these discoveries include a continuation with the conceptual, basic and detailed engineering for connecting the gas to the national transportation system, as well as efforts with the Ministry of Mines and Energy and the Energy and Gas Regulatory Commission to enable gas evacuation to the national system, along with any required adjustments to the tariff system. Ecopetrol has full capacity to ensure the continuity of operations. Let's move on to the next slide. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:11:58During the first quarter of twenty twenty five, the final investment decision for Gato Do Mato was approved. This development is part of our strategy to geographically diversify the hydrocarbon portfolio and increase in reserves. We expect partial reserves incorporation in 2025. This decision followed a reengineering process for its development and included installation of an FPSO designed to process up to 120,000 barrels of oil per day. This is the first development project in which Ecopetrol participates in the pre salt area of the Santos Basin in Brazil. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:12:39Gato Tomato has certified 112,000,000 barrels of 2C contingent oil resources net to Ecopetrol before royalties. Production is expected to begin in 2029, reaching approximately 33,000 barrels of oil per day net to Ecopetrol. Let's move to the next slide. As shown in the top right graph, in the first quarter of twenty twenty five, Ecopetrol reached a production of seven and forty five thousand barrels of oil equivalent per day, mainly due to the contribution from the Acacia spill following the increase in our participation in the CPO-nine block, the Canosur field due to the expansion of water processing facilities at the Centaurus facilities and better performance in the Permian. With these results, Ecopetrol achieved the highest crude oil production in Colombia in the last five years. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:13:37This was possible despite the impact of external factors in Cancur, Quifa and Rubiales between March 31 and April 3, caused by blockades by indigenous guards as well as the impact on production from fields in the Northern Arauca due to interruptions of the Cano Limon, Covenas and Lisentenario pipeline as a result of attacks to the infrastructure. Ecopetrol demonstrated its resilience by quickly recovering 100% of the production from Cano Sul and Ruelles fields. Regarding investment activity, during the first quarter of the year, dollars $672,000,000 were executed with 17% progress on segment's investment plan. A total of 94 workovers and 114 development wells were drilled. For the Canosur asset, the startup of the pipeline and the expansion of the Centaurus Station stand out. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:14:37These milestones will allow operational continuity of the field with an increase in its production. Let's move to the next slide, please. In midstream, the volumes transported decreased by 2% compared to the first quarter of twenty twenty four, as shown in the first graph, primarily due to the scheduled maintenance of the Barrancabermeja refinery, which impacted both oil and refined product volumes. The midstream segment activated alternative logistics schemes complement the necessary volumes and meet domestic production demand, maximizing the use of available infrastructure during such maintenances. This included the delivery of naphtha and diesel at the Pozos Coladas loading terminal and gasoline at the Agla Cucho plant, as well as the reception of Sebastopol and imports via Buenaventura of over 807,000 barrels of diesel and gasoline. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:15:36Additionally, we successfully evacuated more than 3,700,000 barrels from the Arauca fields to the Vicente Nario pipeline, following the suspension of the Banania Ayacucho section of the Canelo Mon Covenas pipeline, In line with what was mentioned on the previous slide, the new Caneluzuru pipeline began operation this quarter, connecting the field to the ODL system. With a capacity of over 50,000 barrels per day, it will enable the evacuation of 100% of the current production from the field, providing operational reliability and reducing vulnerability to external risks. Lastly, I would like to highlight the financial strength of the midstream segment, which continues to contribute to the stability of the group's financial results in times of volatility, with an 11% growth in EBITDA, driven by both exogenous factors and improved operational performance. Let's move to the next slide. Important maintenances activities were carried out in our refineries during the quarter. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:16:44In Barrancarameha, scheduled maintenance took place in the crude unit, the diesel hydrotreater and the automatic plant. Additionally, major maintenance work began at the UOP2 cracking unit and it's progressing as planned. In Cartagena, an unscheduled total shutdown occurred from February 2020 with no impact on refined product supply in Colombia, followed by the commencement of scheduled maintenance on the hydrocracking unit. The consolidated refining throughput for the first quarter of the year was 396,000 barrels per day, representing nearly 7% reduction compared to the same period in 2024 due to scheduled maintenances and the operational events mentioned earlier. The refining margin for the first quarter was $10.9 per barrel, which is $3.9 per barrel lower than the same period last year. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:17:4553% is associated with a reduction in international fuel price differentials, 30% with scheduled maintenances and 14% with unplanned operational events, including the shutdown of the Cartagena refinery. Similarly, during the first quarter of the year, there was a 67% decrease in EBITDA compared to the quarter of twenty twenty four, with 40% of the impact related to exogenous factors such as volume prices, exchange rate fluctuations and refined product theft. 43% of the reduction was due to the operational expenses arising from the maintenance plan, inventory management and higher gas costs, 10% reduction due to unplanned operational events such as the previously mentioned shutdown of the Carretajena refinery. Compared to the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four, there was an increase in both refining margin and EBITDA, driven by better product differentials. To address the challenges of 2025, we have made progress in the following value levers. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:18:59At the Cartagena refinery, significant progress has been made in recovering electrical reliability, with seven of the 16 planned milestones achieved to date. By June 2025, we expect to mitigate the risk from very high to mid. Regarding cost optimization, an eight percent reduction in refining cash cost was achieved compared to fourth quarter twenty twenty four, primarily due to the reduction in unplanned maintenance. To maximize value products, two key projects are being developed: first, the expansion of the coking capacity of the Cartagena unit, which is underway and is expected to be operational in 2027. Second, various initiatives aimed at increasing productivity at the Barrancor Meja petrochemical plant are being advanced. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:19:53Lastly, in the strategic projects aimed at diversifying and exporting new markets, I would like to highlight the approval by the Board of Directors of the project Fuel Quality Baseline, Ivaraca Vermeja and the project implementation of improvements to the U107 NAFTA Hydrotreater in Cartagena. These projects are intended to improve the EBITDA of the downstream segment by generating higher value products and the improvement of gasoline quality. They also contribute to reducing fuel imports for the country and improving air quality in Colombia by 2,030. These projects are key to advancing the energy transition and the future incorporation of biofuels, such as sustainable aviation fuel, SAF. Let's move to the next slide. Rafael GuzmánEVP of Hydrocarbons at Ecopetrol00:20:48In the first quarter of the year, we made progress on the efficiency plan and we are above expectations, achieving 700,000,000,000.0 from the upstream, midstream and downstream segments as well as from the corporate areas. These efficiencies, higher than those of the first quarter of twenty twenty four, have allowed us to advance in cost control with reductions in lifting costs, transportation cost per barrel and refining costs compared to last quarter of twenty twenty four. Additionally, I would like to highlight that lifting costs reached levels lower than those of the first quarter of twenty twenty four, with a decrease of $0.85 per barrel, driven by the achievement of efficiencies and higher production that more than offset the operational cost pressures of higher energy consumption and treatment of higher volumes of fluids as steels mature and the effect of higher dollar to peso exchange rate. In 2025, we continue with an asset profitability enhancement plan that will allow us to maintain lifting cost below $12 per barrel. Now I'll turn it over to David, who will discuss the main milestones of the energies for the transition business line. David Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for Transition at Ecopetrol00:22:09Thank you, Rafael. One of our strategic priorities is to move forward with projects that contribute to meet natural gas demand under current supply conditions. In this context, we would like to share the progress on our reclassification initiatives. On February 28, we signed a contract as a user of integrated reclassification services on Colombian specific costs with Pio SaaS, a company responsible for building, operating and maintaining the facilities. PO was selected after several negotiation rounds within a competitive process that included 18 companies. David Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for Transition at Ecopetrol00:22:51The project involves the use of floating storage unit anchored in the Buenaventura Bay and a reclassification facility located in Buga. This new infrastructure will enable the received storage and reclassification of LNG with an estimated capacity between 60,000,000 to 100,000,000 cubic feet per day and storage capacity of up to 138,000 cubic meters. Operations are expected to begin in the second quarter of twenty twenty six. Additionally, the commercialization process will begin in July 2025, starting at 60 giga BTU per day for five years, supported by key regulatory developments that open the door for new players in the diversification and commercialization of imported gas. Let's move on the next slide, please. David Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for Transition at Ecopetrol00:23:46At the same time, we are evaluating the possibility of reclassification project on the Caribbean Coast, leveraging the COPETROL Group's existing infrastructure in two fronts. By Enel NG, using assets from the Wahira Association to deliver gas to the national transportation system from the Vallena Station through a floating storage and reclassification unit. Coenas LNG using Zenith's assets and a floating storage and reclassification unit connected to the Coenas Port. This option will require infrastructure conversion to ensure connectivity along the whole Vazconia segment with estimated transportation capacity of 130,000,000 cubic feet per day by 2027 and up to 400,000,000 cubic feet per day by 2029. This project will enable the commercialization of up to two fifty gigabtu per day with expected deliveries in 2027. David Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for Transition at Ecopetrol00:24:49Both initiatives reflect a comprehensive supply strategy, using existing infrastructure to expand supply capacity, while ensuring greater flexibility to meet the country's demand. Next slide please. Additionally, we are launching a new commercialization process for natural gas from our major fields, covering the period from December 2025 to November 2030. This cycle includes the sale of a 51 giga BTU per day block over three years, along with the potential availability of an additional 30 giga BTU per day from Heratore. This complemented by yearly blocks between 2027 and 02/1930, with volumes ranging from nine to 41 gigabtou per day. David Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for Transition at Ecopetrol00:25:38During the first quarter of twenty twenty five, the CoPetro Group supplied about 68% of the national natural gas demand and 83% of non thermal power demand, supported by a production of 158,003 barrels of oil equivalent per day of gas and LPG and EBITDA generation of $915,000,000,000. Our energy efficiency program delivered 1.27 petajoules in the first quarter of the year, avoiding over 90,000 tons of CO2 equivalent emissions and generating nearly COP 23,000,000,000 in savings. Since its launch in 2018, the program has accumulated Ps. 21.18 pJ, representing a 71% progress towards our 02/1930 target. In the first quarter of twenty twenty five, the incorporation of non conventional renewable energy sources allowed savings over ARS 10,000,000,000. David Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for Transition at Ecopetrol00:26:40In addition, we reached more than ARS 6,000,000,000 in wholesale energy purchases. Lastly, we are progressing on an inorganic growth portfolio that could add over 1,500 megawatts of installed capacity from non conventional renewable energy sources between 2025 and 2028. This includes the signing of our framework investment agreement with ICE Colombia, which set the conditions for a potential 49% stake in the JMA Guacai Wind Cluster located in La Guajira, subject to the fulfillment of precedent conditions. I will now pass the floor to Camilo, who will present the results of our transmission and road infrastructure line and the key financial milestones. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:27:30Thank you, David. During the first quarter of twenty twenty five, ESA continued delivering outstanding results and contributing to the diversification of the Ecopetrol Group. These achievements are due to the commissioning of new projects, the positive effect of contractual indexation, higher returns from road concessioners and an increase in revenues from the telecommunication business. ESA exhibited a comprehensive growth with an increase of 9% in revenues and 8% in EBITDA year over year. Its contribution within the Ecopetrol Group increased, accounting for 13% of revenues and 18% of EBITDA, aligned with our long term strategic diversification objective. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:28:21Additionally, we highlight the dividend contribution from ISA to its majority shareholder, which for 2025 totaled $720,000,000,000 and its return on average equity of 16.8% for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. With the early achievement of key goals for the ESA two thousand and thirty strategy, the company is moving forward with its new 02/1940 strategy, energy that brings life to the transition. This strategy outlines a roadmap towards a future more sustainable, innovative and committed with Latin America's development. I want to highlight also ESA's long term ambitious goal for doubling its twenty twenty four's EBITDA. Additionally, it aims to increase its transmission capacity of twenty twenty four by 1.5 times, develop eight gigawatts of storage infrastructure and generate synergies with Ecopetrol as a provider of energy solutions. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:29:28Regarding the awarded and operational projects, several important achievements stand out. In Brazil, Eighteen reinforcements were added to the electrical grid. In Chile, the new two twenty kilowatts Las Palmas Centella flow control system project was awarded to Intervial Chile. In the Road segment, the implementation of the free flow system on the Ruta Del Maipo was agreed upon facilitating traffic in the South access to Santiago. Additionally, the commissioning of the renovation of the Huatiquara and Tazajeros substations in Santander, Colombia, 6 additional reinforcement in Brazil and the Expansion 21 project in Peru are not worth it. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:30:17Let's go to the next slide to detail the financial performance of our group. The financial results for the first quarter of twenty twenty five reflect our attempts to consolidate structural efficiencies and protect the company's profitability and liquidity. As Ricardo and Rafael mentioned before, the declining Brent reference prices and major maintenances in the downstream segment to guarantee the production of quality fuels and preserve the integrity of our operations impacted our results. Net income stood at COP3.1 trillion, EBITDA at COP13.3 trillion, and EBITDA margin reached an outstanding 42%, proving our effective control and lower costs and expenses compared to the last quarter of twenty twenty four. The Transportation and Transmission segment contributed 42% to the EBITDA, effectively mitigating the impact of price volatility. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:31:21The Exploration and Production segments contributed 54% to the EBITDA, while the refining segment accounted for the remaining 4%. We invested 1,200,000,000 exceeding the average amount for the first quarter of the past five years. I would like to emphasize that within the hydrocarbons line, our main efforts were directed towards the exploration and production segment in fields such as CPO-nine, Cano Sur and Rubiales as well as in the Permian. These were followed by investments focused on ensuring operational continuity in the transportation and refining segment. Similarly, we made investments of approximately $136,000,000 related to expand the gas chain and supply. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:32:14Our leverage indicators remain steady. The gross debt to EBITDA ratio remained at 2.2 times on a consolidated basis and 1.6 times excluding ISA. Let's move on the next slide. We keep addressing and monitoring our cash levels, both standalone and on a consolidated basis, with a proactive approach that has enabled us to optimize cash flow, ensure the availability of resources for key investments and minimize financial risks. The Ecopetrol Group's cash balance closed at COP17 trillion, generating a positive free cash flow of COP 1,400,000,000,000.0. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:32:57Of the total cash, 42% was contributed by ESA, twenty seven percent by Ecopetrol and the remaining 31% by the group's other subsidiaries. Additionally, our cash management during the quarter included the following transactions. As of March, we carried out a repo for approximately $500,000,000 backed by public debt securities, COLTES received in 2024 by Ecopetrol as part of the fuel prices, stabilization fund payment, generating a temporary increase in short term gross debt. Depending on the market conditions, the unwind of this repo will be reviewed. The Ministry of Finance authorized an international loan facility of up to $500,000,000 with Banco Santander. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:33:50The proceeds from this transaction will be used to meet our operational cash requirements, thus compensating the outflows caused by recent inorganic acquisitions. This aligns with our financing plan and maintains the gross debt to EBITDA target for the year. A favorable milestone was the early collection of the total balance of the fuel price stabilization fund, FEPEC, for 2024. At the March, the receivable of the first quarter of twenty twenty four for around Ps. 2,200,000,000,000.0 was paid through short term public debt securities, COLTES, which were used to guarantee a repo transaction. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:34:39In addition, at the April, we received 5,400,000,000,000.0 in short term coal test for the balance of the second, third and fourth quarters of twenty twenty four. These were already sold, providing the necessary liquidity to complete the total dividend payment to our shareholders in the first half of this year. Through our financial hedging policy, we executed hedging programs to mitigate the price volatility on diesel for 3,200,000 barrels and exchange rate for $615,000,000 Likewise, we continue to analyze other hedging strategies for Brent price for the second half of twenty twenty five and 2026. These measures have strategically positioned us to address recent market dynamics and the increased fiscal obligations resulting from the interior commotion decree due to the Catatumbo crisis. We anticipate this will result in disbursement for the group of approximately 1,200,000,000,000 this year, in addition to the impact of the value added tax on fuel imports starting 01/01/2025, which will be detailed in the next slide. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:36:03In December 2024, the National Tax Authority issued a ruling interpreting that value added tax on fuel imports must be paid at a rate of 19% on the customs value of the imported goods. This ruling has prospective effects starting on 01/01/2025. Since January, Ecopetrol has paid such value added tax in accordance with the ANS ruling. Estimates show that in 2025, this payment will reach approximately trillion, recoverable at 93% through tax refund request. Regarding the period 2022 to 2024, Ecopetrol SEA and the Cartagena refinery received three requests from Lian, including a proposal of tax, penalty and interest totaling trillion related to the VAT payment on the declarations submitted during that period Due to the differing interpretations of regulations and protecting the company's interest, Ecopetrol and the Cartagena refinery will respond to the special custom request and challenge them through administrative and judicial channels using the resources and actions provided by the law. Camilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value Officer at Ecopetrol00:37:28Ecopetrol and the Cartagena refinery are committed to fully complying with their customs and tax obligations and will respect the administrative and judicial decision that resolved this dispute. Finally, market and company scenarios indicate that Brent prices for 2025 may fall below our financial projections. Therefore, we've implemented measures to enhance our ability to address these industry challenges, ensuring we achieve our operational and financial targets for this year. I now hand over to the President, who will detail the adopted plan to navigate the current environment of price volatility. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:38:11Thank you, Camilo. To close this evening's call, I would like to share key messages about the actions we have been implementing in response to the high uncertainty environment we are currently navigating. It's important to emphasize that Ecopetrolis are diversified group with core business in hydrocarbon transportation and energy transmission, which had proven to be essential during times of volatility and now contribute over 40% of our EBITDA. On top of that, we have a competitive commercial strategy that has allowed us to maintain single digit differentials, maximizing the value of our products. This is not the first period of a strong volatility we have faced as a company, and we had both the experience and preparation need to respond effectively. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:39:11Our investment plan is built around a price range that allows us to adapt to different market scenarios while maintaining capital discipline to ensure competitive returns. Based on these fundamentals, we have implemented concrete measures to strengthen the group's position. For cash rotation, we have implemented an additional robust program of efficiencies and cost and expenses saving amounting by approximately ARS 1,000,000,000,000, along with a strong working capital management of around ARS 2,000,000,000,000, combined with the early CapEx payments and available credit lines, this reinforces our liquidity. In terms of capital discipline, we are focused on efficient production decisions, portfolio rotation strategies and differentiated crude market. Considering our integration across the value chain, 99% of our production operates at an EBITDA breakeven below $55 per barrel, providing a natural hedge against price fluctuations. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:40:29Additionally, our plans include flexibility in terms of CapEx intervention of $500,000,000 aiming to protect our production for the year. For resilience and financial flexibility, we maintain a controlled debt level, declining production costs and are generating synergies between segments and subsidiaries that continue to strengthen our competitiveness. It is worth mentioning that given the current situation, we update our lifting cost target aiming for a level below $12 per barrel. We continuously monitor the market conditions and have well defined protocols in place to adjust commercial options, optimize cost to renegotiate contracts, manage debt and activate financial hedge whenever necessary. These pillars allow us to look ahead with confidence. Ricardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEO at Ecopetrol00:41:30We have clear protocols to respond to any further deterioration in market conditions and are ready to activate additional levers if required. Ecopetrol is well prepared to continue generating sustainable value for our shareholders and for the country, even in the face of global volatility. With that, we now open the floor for questions. Moderator00:42:06Thank you. Let's begin now the Q and A session. We recommend to ask three questions at the most to give space for the others. And also all the analysts, please choose the language in which you'll be asking your question. If not, we won't be able to hear it. Moderator00:42:29The next question is from Catherine Ortiz from Correores Davivienda. Moderator00:42:35Good morning, everyone. Can you hear me? Moderator00:42:41Catherine, good morning. We can hear you clouded clear. Moderator00:42:44Thank you for your presentation. Let me summarize my three questions. One is related to the last topic that you mentioned, Ricardo, related to the effect that the fall of oil prices can have and how Ecopetrol has been preparing. So I have several questions with that. First, could you please confirm figures that you mentioned in other settings related to the impact of the fall of the price of oil on the EBITDA and the revenue per dollar of the drop of the price of oil, you said that it's 750,000,000.00 per dollar. Moderator00:43:39Please confirm that figure. And with your last slide, I have a question because the breakeven that you mentioned at 99% with production EBITDA up $54. I'd like to compare it also with the breakeven of your revenue Because in the figures that you showed at the end of the year, the breakeven of the EBITDA at the end of the year was $40 overall, but the revenue was $49. And that's because of the context of the very high taxes that we have in Colombia. So I'd like to know that figure of 99 percent of production and revenue to understand better the impact that we could see on production because of this effect. Moderator00:44:32And also, although it's true, especially the premium, we know that the breakeven that zone is at $50 now. But when you look at that WTI, it's below 60. So could you please tell us if in that production segment in The U. S. There is a contingency related to the effect that this could have with the fall of the oil price? Moderator00:45:08That's my first question. Do you want to hear the other two or do you want to answer this first one? Maybe my first question was quite extensive. Erika, thank you. Let's begin by answering your first question and then we can cover the other two. Moderator00:45:32Our CEO would like to talk about the effect that you're asking regarding the decrease of each dollar with the Brent, barrel. Then I can compliment. Good morning for everyone. Catherine, good morning and thank you for your questions. I'm Ricardo Roa, the CEO of Ecopetrol. Moderator00:45:58Yes, I'd like to confirm your figures and the exercises made so far. Remember, we have a price of reference of Brent in our plan in investments and in operations. Based on this, we have evaluated and for every dollar that the Brent changes in the market, we will have impacts on the revenue and the EBITDA and the net profit. The impact of each dollar that changes upwards or downwards with the price of Brent in the market on EBITDA is COP 740,000,000.00 a year on the net profit of COP 370,000,000.00 and counteracting those effects, we would need in terms of the exchange rate, MXN200 more per dollar. So the effect can counteract the impacts of the fall of the Brent price. Moderator00:47:07We have been monitoring constantly the conditions, particular conditions of the price of the oil, the market Brent and WTI, which is of the state. So on those aspects, we've also been monitoring our operations, profits and based on what we've seen, we've announced that as of today and under the current conditions, we don't have to make decisions on the interruption of the production of several of our wells. But there may be decisions ahead, especially with the wells underway and there we will have to be making evaluations and making decisions. So now let's give the floor to Rafael. Thank you, Ricardo and Catherine for your question. Moderator00:48:14I'd like to refer briefly to the Permian. The current Permian is showing good performance now. Remember, we're talking about the year of having a production from '90 to '95. We have completed 35 new wells to date with a plan close to 90 that we have with the Permian. In terms of the breakeven, the production of the Permian is below $50 of WTI. Moderator00:48:53We do have with our partner some strategies to suspend the investment in new wells if for a long period of months we see low prices of WTI. One of the advantages with this is that this these suspensions can be made quickly, and they can be also reactivated quickly, and that gives us high flexibility. To date, we haven't had discussions with the with our partner for the suspension and we continue with our plans. Anyways, most of the production that we expect for the year is with the wells that are already underway, not with the production that comes from new wells. So for now, in the flexibility of CapEx that we have, we don't see the need of cutting back on CapEx or production. Moderator00:49:57Rafael, thank you. And if you allow me, Catherine, Camilo Arco speaking, I'd like to compliment the answers given by our CEO and Rafael. And I'd like to highlight the breakevens. Typically, this is an indicator that is displayed in companies of E and P, pure E and P and they're related to the production costs. As Rafael said, it's very important to keep in mind that adding to Ecopetrol, more than 99% of our wells are capable of operated with breakevens below $55 But we cannot lose sight that today Ecopetrol, as we emphasized in our presentation, this is a group that has different energies. Moderator00:50:55It not only has upstreams, but other segments in hydrocarbons, midstream and downstreams. But it also today incorporates lines, the business lines of energy transmission and roads and energies for transition. So looking at these indicators by the group, perhaps you can find there some of the answers to the differences with the breakevens announced. But sure, we can confirm to you Catherine that after making the analysis and the effects compensated by different segments, the breakeven of the profit of the group is close to $50 per barrel, while the breakeven of the EBITDA is closer to $44 per barrel. Perfect. Moderator00:51:50Thank you so much. Great answers. So let me continue with my second question that relates to the requirement made by Dien. Recently, you showed us the steps that you will be taking with that. And among those steps, before the reconsideration, you have closing the case. Moderator00:52:14I wonder if right then or when specifically Ecopetrol should make a reserve for of those BRL 9,400,000,000.0 if the DEAN or the tax authority does not reconsider and is firm with its ruling. So should Ecopetrol right then make that payment? And in time, how how long do you estimate making this close? Will it be in three months, six months, a year? Just to have an idea in that sense, that question. Moderator00:52:56And I would also like to understand ahead with that new interpretation. Will Ecopetrol have to keep spending every year about 3,600,000,000.0, the ones that you've mentioned? I'd like to confirm this. So independent of what the DN rules in the past, it will Ecopetrol in the future have to be paying those BRL 3,600,000,000.0? And if so, this year, you mentioned that in a report that this is compensated with balances that will be recovered but ahead. Moderator00:53:36Is it normal to have these types of balance to be recovered? Or is this just a onetime payment, not for 2025, but afterwards, after this figure, will it go to Ps. 4,000,000,000 additional? That's my second question, gentlemen. Okay, Catherine. Moderator00:53:58Again, thank you. This is Camilo Arco. And this question with the scope that you're giving us will allow us to clarify several things for everybody that's joining us in this call today and that are really wondering about this. So let me expand going back to what you've asked. Indeed, in December 2024 and December 20, the DEAN issued an opinion in which there's a change of a doctrine to consider that as of the 01/01/2025, fuels are subject imported fuels are subject to a 19% VAT. Moderator00:54:50This opinion has effects on two perspectives. One, ahead like you mentioned in your question and the other back and it relates to the procedure that we will have to follow from here on. Regarding the procedures ahead, as of January and following this guideline, Ecopetrol has been meeting its responsibility and its tax obligation following what the DEAN has required and has been paying the VAT for importing fuels, gasoline and diesel mainly with 90%. Also, you mentioned another figure and indicates an effort of Ecopetrol at ARS 3 point 6 billion in the year 2025. Of these ARS 3,600,000,000.0, the expectation is that we can recover about 93% of that sum, meaning 3,300,000,000.0 through the recoveries and crosses of balances in favor tax returns from previous years. Moderator00:56:07Going ahead, it's possible that the balance of taxes in favor of Ecopetrol will not only persist, but will increase. Why? Because this tariff of 19% means that we have to pay that percentage over the imports. While the formula of the prices of fuels in Colombia allow us only to recover 5%. So that difference between 519%, meaning 14% necessarily will increase the balance of taxes paid in the future. Moderator00:56:46So surely ahead, we will have to made an effort that can be crossed in real time with the balances of the tax returns or taxes in our favor. Now again, let me refer to the second perspective and it's the impact on previous periods, specifically 2022, '20 '20 '4, which are the statements which are not infirm. So on that claim, a first calculation has been made. We've received special requirements, customs, Indraphicar and Enecopetrol, which add up today to ARS 9,400,000,000.0. Within that sum, 7,000,000,000 are the taxes that we haven't paid, one bill six of Ecopetrol, one of Repicar and the other BRL 2,400,000,000.0 have to do with interest and sanctions. Moderator00:57:52So on this particular item, we're talking about an interpretative difference and we controvert this. So the first thing that follows is to go through the administrative method for which we have to respond before May 12. The special customs requirements we received from Ecopetrol. Those that were received at the Picarro have been answered already. And on this, the Vian should be giving its ruling in the following months, making analysis of what we presented and they will confirm this requirement or they will adjust it. Moderator00:58:40It's called an official liquidation. And this official liquidation is an administrative act and as such, it's acceptable to all legal actions foreseen in the law. So once we have this ruling from the DEAN, we will determine what path we shall continue, which can include the reconsideration that we're asking for along with legal actions as if required, we can have the reposition resources presented and we can even go directly to present a demand before the state council. So this is a judicial process that can take time from two to five years before anything goes through. And let me talk about the importance of the reserves. Moderator00:59:49When it comes to reserves of payments, they will of course depend of how the process develops and the need of the final ruling. And the payment has to be given by the state council if necessary. Our consideration today, it's worth saying and based on the opinions given by attorneys, the possibility that we will be given a green light with this is high. Why? Because the eventual provision will be with the requirement of the external auditor and that provision or reserve will depend on the development of the process and the possibility of success of defending the arguments by, Ecopetrol. Moderator01:00:47So to end, we're in a very preliminary stage. We only received the requirement to pay for especially 2022 and 2024. And first, we have to go through the administrative path and that the legal path. So we hope that the effects on the accounting and the payment eventual payment will take two to five years as I said before. And I hope with this, I have responded several of your questions related to the payment of that VAT. Moderator01:01:30Thank you. We also have Daniel Guardiola from BGT. Hello, good morning, Ricardo, Camilo, Rafael. I have two brief questions, so my other colleagues have time to ask questions. First, what's the sensibility for the production of Ecopetrol keeping in mind if the company executes a CapEx reduction of $500,000,000 that you have with your austerity plan? Moderator01:02:00And second question, Camilo, could you please share with us what's the rent cash breakeven of the upstream business considering, of course, the CapEx that you expect to assign to this business this year? These are my two questions. Thank you. This is Rafael Guzman, and thank you for your question. Moderator01:02:28As Camilo said, 99% of the production has a breakeven of $55 per barrel. Now in terms of investment, with the flexibility of CapEx we've announced, we will get priority to the CapEx, especially for those investments that create new production. And so far, we haven't seen having to cut back on our CapEx for production. We'd also like to give an example related to the prior question with the Permian, which we expect will be 90,000 to 95,000 barrels a day. And with those new wells that we have, it's close to 8%, nine % of that production. Moderator01:03:25And we also mentioned that we have drilled 75 wells this year. So this example also illustrates our effort to maintain capital in the projects that remain in production. Okay, Daniel. And with regards to the financial question, I think it was covered by Rafael when we discussed the break even maybe it's important to mention that the expectations of the investments plan related with CapEx. We announced to the market an investment plan that was approved at the end of twenty twenty four and for this 2025 from $6,000,000,000 to $6,800,000,000 Of these $6,800,000,000 there's a chance or the flexibility better of $500,000,000 And over that, perhaps we should emphasize that we will give priorities to investments that protect production and reserves, firstly. Moderator01:04:42And secondly, we will give priority to those investments on projects that can contribute the internal generation right away, meaning projects preferably in operation stages, brown fit projects that have positive EBITDAs and increase the generation, the internal generation of the company. And depending of this CapEx level, if possible to stay in this range without ruling out the chance depending of the performance of the prices. We will have even a more drastic plan of that CapEx depends the final EBITDA that we'll have. But as Rafael said, the breakeven of the EBITDA is below $55 a barrel. Thank you, Rafael and Camilo. Moderator01:05:51Have a great day. Thank you. The next questions will be in English. So we remind all the analysts to choose on the interpretation, I can, the language. Otherwise, we cannot hear you. Moderator01:06:12UBS has a question. Mr. Vascon Sejes, ask your question. Analyst01:06:17Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Two follow ups here on this breakeven discussion. The first one, at what point would Ecopetrol start reviewing its strategy? We just discussed it quite a lot about the 55 breakeven, but for how long would it need to remain below such levels for Ecopetrol to change this strategy? Analyst01:06:40I assume, of course, would not be like a week or a month, but I think the question is exactly how is the company's evaluation process to change strategy or the approach here? A second question, actually a follow-up on this first one. Where do you view all the opportunities to reduce CapEx and costs in case the branch remains lower for longer? Is it the $500,000,000 in the upstream business that you just mentioned on the slides the full potential or there could be other opportunities? And which business would you prioritize the most? Analyst01:07:16And which other business you also see potential to reduce CapEx or expenses if required? Those are the two questions. Thank you. Moderator01:07:33Thank you for your questions. Let's refer again. This is Camilo Arco, I'm the CFO. I'd like to begin by quickly referring to the ranges of reviewing the strategy as you've mentioned and especially I'll talk about the eventual revision of the financial plan for 2025 and the three years, three subsequent years. The most important thing I'd like to highlight here is that we constantly monitor the performance of the market. Moderator01:08:14And there is a range determined from $60 to $65 of a barrel Brent, which leads us to take measures like the ones we've announced. These ranges, it's important to mention, are not specific ranges. It's not that the price of Brent in some determined days will touch this level. Instead, we're talking about average ranges for the year, the full year based on this first quarter and the forecast that we have for the rest of the year. So while we reach the average ranges for the full year closer to $60 in addition to the measures we've mentioned, there could be a chance or we can evaluate the chance of re ascensioning or changing the budget of 2025 when we see that the deviations are material enough to not meet the goals established for this year. Moderator01:09:27So again, beyond the discussion of the breakeven, when it comes to the planning and budget policy of the company, the range of $60 per barrel average of Brent for next year gives us a chance of evaluating the re sanction of the financial plan for 2025. And now let's give the floor on the opportunities of investment that you mentioned. No, this is Rafael Guzman again. These $500,000,000 that we mentioned of CapEx, it's not only for upstream business, it also impacts the mid and downstream and the other Ecopetrol businesses even in corporate. And I'd like to mention also something about that 1% of production that has a breakeven above BRL55 million. Moderator01:10:26We've talked about the BRL99 million a lot. But let's talk about that 1% because there we have important actions. Part of the new goal that we have in efficiencies, which is another ARS1 billion is for higher efficiencies included in these fields of more breakeven. Also in these fields, we have investment commitments for our partners, not Apeco Petrol, but made by the partner which will increase the production of these fields and therefore will decrease the breakeven. And we're not only looking at fields entirely, but also the production specific of wells and certain facilities to maintain our production levels throughout the year, including with the current prices that we are reviewing. Moderator01:11:25And I'd like to complement my answer related to your second question. Let me say that, of course, an eventual resumption of the plan would lead us to review the CapEx in every business line. This revision would be cross sectional. Today, what we propose with the Brent expectations we have is $500,000,000 of flexibility to help us to be in the lower range of the financial plan proposed. But while there is a persistent reduction of the prices, we can take more drastic measures, again, to protect the production and reserves. Moderator01:12:18But when more necessary, we can intervene when it comes to the profitability and the breakeven of different wells. So that's why we have a detailed analysis per asset. And we Analyst01:13:22Has the government used sovereign titles or any type of short term securities to pay down the bank balance? Those are the questions. Thank you. Moderator01:13:35Rafael Guzman. Moderator01:13:40Good morning, Eduardo. This is Rafael Guzman. In the first quarter, we had a cost below $12 It's specifically $11.25 That's we're announcing that we will keep it below $12 for the entire year. Most of this also comes with the increase of the efficiencies of 1,000,000,000. So the mechanisms are to reduce maintenance of subsoil, increasing the period in which you have to change the subsoil equipment. Moderator01:14:17Second, efficiencies in energy, which we have been achieving using less energy and having lower rates of energy, thanks to the commercial management made. When it comes to we have really different engines that we're placing in the pumps of the subsoils of the wells. We also have renegotiations of maintenance contracts, reusing the materials to make the maintenance at the facilities on the surface. And this is also, as we saw in the first quarter, goes hand in hand with a higher exchange rate of the pesos, which helps us a lot significantly in these lifting costs. Moderator01:15:10Yes. When Moderator01:15:12it comes to your question, Juan, when it comes to the form of payment of the test No. The form of payment of the through the government to make these PEPEC payments through debt but through crossing dividends or direct payments. Really, the Ministry of Treasury of the Nation determines how the payment is made. However, it's a good opportunity to mention good news related to this, which is part of the presentation. Firstly, Costs in twenty twenty four, meaning we received the first payment of BRL 2,200,000,000.0 and a second payment of BRL Moderator01:16:2424 Moderator01:16:26reaching BRL 7,600,000,000.0 full. The compensation of effective 2024, these were paid and fully received by Ecopetrol. With regards to the some received in the second payment, these were paid in short term titles, which were liquidated and sold to the market through banking intermediaries. With the remaining payments of BRL 2,200,000,000.0, some of these tied off are part of the simultaneous transaction made and are used as collateral for the liquidity credits obtained. For this year, 2025, given the circumstances and prices, our expectation is that the causation of FX will drop substantially. Moderator01:17:24Although last year, we had $7,600,000,000 our projections with current prices and that the tax this year will cost BRL 3,000,000,000 approximately in favor of Ecopetrol, closer to the lower rates. And over this, we'll have to wait to what option of payment is determined by the nation. We also have with us, Mr. Jose from Goldman Sachs. Mr. Moderator01:17:58Jose, Costello, ask your question. Analyst01:18:00I have a follow-up on Eduardo's question on the form of payment of a pack. Recently, flow mentioned that you guys were being paid with some liquid instruments, right, as you just explained. I just want to confirm my understanding that you kind of liquidated those already and having cash in hands, right? And my second question is on the CapEx flexibility you guys talked about. I understand you have some $500,000,000 in CapEx flexibility where you can adjust not only on the upstream segment, but also on the downstream and so on. Analyst01:18:35But I would like to get a sense on what is the impact of production, assuming you would cost or you would cut investments on the upstream division? Thank you. Moderator01:18:50Thank you for your questions. This is Camilo Varco. To answer your question about Quebec and to confirm that indeed, the payment of Quebec received BRL 5,400,000,000.0 was liquidated already. The titles were placed in the market. And today, it's part of our cash flow and the liquidity of the Ecopetrol Group. Moderator01:19:19And with regards to your second question, I can anticipate that there is no impact on production. But let's listen to Rafael to complement Yes, you're right, Camilo. Rafael, this is Rafael, Rafael, when comes to the 500,000 that we have in CapEx, we still have the same production goal. Keep that in mind. Thank you. Moderator01:20:32Okay. Okay. Understand because you're saying you're pay 3.6, but you should recover 3,300,000,000.0. I'd like to see what's the net effect on the cash that this has on the company this first Working capital reverts to 3. How can we see this as a net effect on the cash flow? Moderator01:21:03Will we have an effect on working capital of a billion pesos? I'd like to see those net effects you said that a method to protect the cash flow, you would have 2,000,000,000 for working capital. However, what we see now require there is a requirement of the Diaanda National paying you a capital with debt titles, and you're trying to change those titles to act, making that effort. So where are you where are these two working capital 2,000,000,000 pesos working capital coming from? And third, I'd like to thank you if you could give us more information of that from that leverage of six times. Moderator01:22:09With the debt ratings, we'll see that the rating firms have decreased the stand alone rating of Ecopetrol and two Is a very high debt. So what about your But as soon would you talk with the rate of first ahead? Is normal. So To see that it has a higher leverage level compared to other oil companies. So if you could clarify this for me regarding the conversations you have with the rating agencies and how to push that six times that you're talking about. Moderator01:22:58Thank Moderator01:23:00you. This is Camilo Barrico again. With regards to your first question related to the TAN, the tax authority, you have summarized it perfectly. This year, indeed, the payment of the tax from January to December means an effort made by us of BRL 3,600,000,000.0. Although we have balances in favor of us of the bat close to BRL 5,000,000,000 today, and it's possible to cross these in the next months. Moderator01:23:35Practically, in the next thirty sixty days, we've been able to cross the taxes in charge of that. By the end of twenty twenty five, if you said, of those 3.6, we expect to recover 3.3, which would imply a total effort of Ecopetrol in the cash of 500,000,000. And ahead if this keeps on happening, And we know this will happen given the difference of rates to pay the VAT versus the difference of rate to collect the VAT. It's sure that we will have balances of taxes in our favor, significant ones. So in the next sixty days, we will have to pay the bat with balances of taxes in our favor. Moderator01:24:31So that covers your first question. Your second question is related to managing working capital and the BRL 2,000,000,000 that our CEO referred to. Fundamentally has to do with part of our contingency plan under the protection of our cash flow and ensuring our liquidity. And this fundamentally has to do with an efficient centralization of the groups. It has to do with paying the dividends of the affiliates, several payments of Ecopetrol to its subsidiaries, capitalization of subsidiaries, which are deferred in time and will be more adjusted to the timetables required in our investment plans. Moderator01:25:26And really the management of inventories of accounts payable and receivable are measures guided to increase the efficiency of this cash pooling of the subsidiaries and managing the accounts and the inventories as part of the working capital. Our expectation is that here we can increase by R2 billion the total this year, the amount of the cash available. And now your third question related to the debt, your question is very pertinent. And one of our main working goals is that today, yes, the rating firms are still applying a criteria, which in our opinion, every time seems to be less technical because indeed as a group, we incorporate ISA, which is a group that contributes the most proportion or the most of the debt. And since ESA is regulated, it can leverage those investments four point times its EBITDA. Moderator01:26:54And today, this implies a reading that's not precise when it comes to the indicator of the debt EBITDA of the Ecopetrol Group. And as you said, within the indicator of the industry, 2.2 times looks high, yes. But when you exclude the part of the debt of Ecopetrol, the indicator of Ecopetrol is 1.6 times in terms of debt. So that makes it look high to a lower range of debt. This is an ongoing conversation that we have with the rating firms. Moderator01:27:38And what they've said is that while the contribution of companies like ESA and Senate, which is above 42% of the EBITDA, surely this discussion can be given more and more. Our expectation is to adjust the methodology used by the rating firms. So they keep in mind these factors and allow us to have a depth space of a group that has energy with oil. Thank you so much. Today, we have Andres Cardona from Citibank. Moderator01:28:19Mr. Cardona, you can ask. Good morning, everyone. I have three questions. First, recently, we saw in the company making several acquisitions in the arts segment, renewables that can possibly close another assets. Moderator01:28:43I understand to be sold. So tell us about the appetite for more inorganic growth with an oil price at $60 which and you've got a barrel of $73 per barrel and also with the effect of the liability in the first question. Second question, could you clarify how many barrels are consolidated in Acacia in the first quarter because of the higher participation? And third, the media is saying that Shell could potentially leave the offshore project. Are you capable to face the development of this project alone? Moderator01:29:40And what permits, environmental permits are pending so that the project can move to the next stage? And how feasible is it to have those permits because of the recent postures of the and the ministry of the environment, etcetera? So these are my three questions. Thank you. Thank you for taking them. Moderator01:30:17Andres, thank you for your question. This is Julian Lemos. I'm the Corporate President of Strategy. Firstly, as Ecopetrol, we have an investments plan built as you've said with a Brent of $73 yes. And all of the inorganic investments we've evaluated and constantly evaluated have to meet working discipline criteria. Moderator01:30:53There is no doubt right now, we have to review those opportunities that we're seeing. But we are also convinced that just as we've hydrocarbons and other projects in renewable energies, have to review them and to find a way to make the progress because they do contribute to the financial sustainability of the group. And of course, we cannot just leave them suddenly. Surely, the setting will make us be more strict with our criteria and more creative with the mechanisms that we can have to carry out these transactions. I mean, cash generation, structuring, debt or the rotation of our portfolio. Moderator01:31:56For the next two questions, let's hear Rafael Guzman. Andres, good morning. Rafael Guzman speaking. For your question on Acacias, yes, comparing the last quarter of last year with the first quarter of this year, we have an increase of 16,000 barrels of crude oil national of Ecopetrol Group. Of these 10,600 correspond to 45%, which was the acquisition we made of Repsol. Moderator01:32:33Let me highlight in this field of Acacias, since we have 100% of the synergies that we have between this field and Ichimene, we have 200,000 barrels in addition. So it's not only the result, but it's because of the synergies. And the increase of crude oil in Colombia comes from Calle Sur. The next question regarding the development of the discoveries of KGG in The Caribbean. Yes, Shell will see its participation to Ecopetrol. Moderator01:33:18And firstly, yes, we are capable to assume the operation on our own. The development has more with the engineering with the national transportation system and procedures with the Ministry of Mines and the CREG to have this connection mainly. As far as the environmental permits, let's hear Elsa Haimitz, who can talk about this. Thank you, Rafael. Good morning. Moderator01:33:52Andres, with regards to the environmental permits pending, right now, we are underway with the exploration permit and also the environmental and to connect the cast offshore with the national transportation system. And within this big process, which is the study of environmentalizes, the first part has to do with the prior giving disclosures with the communities that are nearby. So right now, we're designing the connection that duct, that oil duct, the pipeline and managing with the ANCP, the certification of the communities that will be impacted to proceed with the prior consultation. Once we have agreements with the communities, we will present their request of the environmental permits. And if it's feasible to have them, yes, it is. Moderator01:35:01And we've been working with on this. Thank you. Could you please precise? Is there an appetite for new operations? I know you have several underway, but ahead, does Ecopetrol have an appetite for new opportunities of growth inorganic given the prices of oil, which are much lower and the risk of liability. Moderator01:35:36Andres, as I've mentioned, the appetite is there. Yes, we have strategic goals to incorporate reserves, inorganic and megawatts and constantly seeking opportunities of diversification and to enhance our portfolio. And again, we want to do is to be much more strict with the criteria we have you we use and we have to be very creative. So again, we will we are evaluating options. We are aware that the moment of the moment now, but we're also aware of the needs and the strategic goals of the organization and how the M and A is very important to that. Moderator01:36:26Let me complement Andres related to the eventual contingency of the DN. It's important to say that the perspective, the future perspective of paying the VAT doesn't really have a big impact on our cash flow. And remember, it was MXN 300,000 million in 2025. But when it comes to the controversy rising from the interpretation of the opinion given by Dien, the effects that could take place eventually again will be seen on a long term basis once the rulings are made and the judicial process takes place. So we will be taking the actions and using the resources foreseen in the law. Moderator01:37:27And this will take no less than two years. Thank you. Next question from Sergio Torres from Correores Daviviente. Mr. Torres, good morning. Moderator01:37:43Thank you for receiving my questions. I have one. With what you mentioned that on February 28, Ecopetrol entered a contract for regasification. Could you please give us more details about that contract beyond its capability? How much will cost will be the cost annual cost for Ecopetrol? Moderator01:38:15And for how long will you have this service, contracted? Good morning. This is David Rihano, the Executive VP of Energies for Transition. Thank you, Sergio for your question. As we've announced before, this is a contract in which Ecopetrol acquired services of regasification And this decision was taken keeping in mind all of our working capital requirements. Moderator01:38:52When it comes to this particular case, first, it's to acquire the regasification rights, which has been announced. Later and as we've said also in several sectorial settings, we will proceed to acquire the LNG that will be placed at the facilities of regasification and long term contracts under the best price conditions. And domestically, that amount of gas will be sold. That way the group expects to generate value obviously through this transaction, specifically on the duration. This contract has a commitment for five years counted as the moment when the facility is commissioned. Moderator01:39:49The detail of the price of the regasification is confidential, however. But our CEO recently said that this year we will begin the commercialization process publicly so everybody can participate. Here we have Alejandra from JPMorgan. I'd like to understand on the potential of acquiring new debt, you said for MA and also the possibility of going to international markets. The current cost is much more expensive and different. Moderator01:40:43And I understand that you'll be more cautious with M and As. But I'd like to understand if there's a chance of going out to international markets to issue debt? Or do you want to remain more cautious? Or if there's if it's if off the table to go outside? Thank you, Alejandra. Moderator01:41:10This is Camilo Arco, the CFO. With regards to the additional debt, I'd like to remind you that our investment plan organic does not have an increased debt. In the inorganic component, we have confirmed even under these circumstances that every opportunity of inorganic investment is being evaluated very, very closely and with the caution that you have mentioned. This means that we prioritize the investments, which today have the capability to contribute and generate enough to leverage the investment itself, meaning projects that are under operation and have an EBITDA that's enough to serve the debt. We work in each of these opportunities looking at the finance, looking at the evaluation of everything. Moderator01:42:24On this, it's also worth mentioning that this year, we have formalized transactions or closed transactions, which are financed also. We referred in the presentation to the financing of $500,000,000 which fundamentally is part of the cash of the group, but will cover part of the investment made in the CPO-nine asset. And in the future, what we foresee is that we will try to see financing options that are structured more in banks. We monitor constantly the market only if there are conditions and levels of rates that will allow us to go out to the market this year, we will be evaluating But right now, we don't see them. Moderator01:43:33And really, we're focused if we have to finance inorganic opportunities, these will be structured finance specific operations, mainly using banking bank related financing. Thank you. Next question from Andres Duarte from Corfin Columbiana. Andres, the floor is yours. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking my questions and for your presentations. Moderator01:44:11I have three follow-up questions. First, since Ricardo Roa, the CEO, just remembered that the sensibility not only comes from the prices, but also from the devaluation. I'd like to know what exchange rate are you assuming for the breakeven of $55 per barrel? Second question, please explain again in case you did, I did understand it well. The component of the BRL 2,200,000,000.0 used as collateral related to what you talked about the PEPIC. Moderator01:44:55Please explain it what that consists of. I did understand it. And third and last, has to do with M and As, but more focus not on oil and gas. Could you specifically refer to Monameros, electrical generators, Internexa? And I'm asking because Isa yesterday said that it had discussions with that company and Monametos. Moderator01:45:27I don't know if that was initiative of the company itself, I guess not. But could you please refer to possible acquisitions like those? Thank you. Okay, Andres, thank you for your questions. This is Camilo Arco again. Moderator01:45:52And let me answer two of your three questions mainly. The exchange rate used that we for in our investment plan is 4,150 a dollar. And the sensibility over the variabilities indeed is made using this rate, this exchange rate. As far as your second question, we're talking about simultaneous operations. In other words, these are operations of short term financing with a collateral, in this case, short term tests and long term that we have in position to guarantee the payment of the short term obligation. Moderator01:46:46Meaning, this is a credit line from treasury guaranteed with collateral for which we give the short term test. So there, we can still identify the opposition. We're talking about the payments of PEPEC, the MXN 2,200,000,000.0 that we received in March to pay the first PEPEC payment is used as a collateral for the test credit. With the drop of the exchange rates with of our central bank, surely this transaction will be liquidated, will be made liquid like we did with the other test titled. So again, this has been placed in the market. Moderator01:47:39These were liquidated or sold through the brokers bank of the banks. So these are the two questions that I have addressed for you. Thank you, Camilo. Andres, this is Julian Milamos, the Corporate VP new strategies and businesses. So let me talk about three aspects for you. Moderator01:48:04First, M and A is a confidential nature for us. But let me talk with you with what I can address firstly. Ecopetrol has not announced that it will buy electrical companies. There are two potential businesses for remote self generation to cover the needs of electrical need of Ecopetrol itself. So with that, we will continue with two projects that are subject to the precedent conditions to carry them out. Moderator01:48:42And just as we have strategic goals to incorporate reserves, we also have strategic goals to incorporate megawatts that are renewable for our own consumption. With regards to other topics, I'd say that at CoPetro constantly evaluates options throughout the oil chain, petrochemicals and fertilizers. Throughout the analysis made recurrently, regularly, we monitor the opportunities out there and the opportunities that are not out there. And I'm not talking about one company specifically here, but I'd like to underscore that our company and our process really does evaluate the options to diversify and capture value throughout the entire chain. With Intranexa, you mentioned what ESA said yesterday. Moderator01:49:45Let me tell you what President Roa perhaps in the last call mentioned. The conversation is out there, yes. It's covered by confidentiality, however. And when we have a potential agreement with ISA, we will report it to the market. We can't announce anything now. Moderator01:50:04Thank you. You. Thank you so much for your answers. Next question comes from Stephanie Amosqueda from Credit One Capital. Good morning, everyone, and thank you so much for the time. Moderator01:50:21I have three questions. I think they're quite brief. Let me begin with one that's a follow-up of what Andres asked and it's we've heard comments in the market of a potential purchase of Wimpeche. Do you have any comments about that? Thank you, Stephanie. Moderator01:50:46This is Julia Lemas, the Corporate VP of new businesses. What I can mention is that we're waiting for the compliance of the precedent conditions made in the contract with Enel. The authorization of the integration by the SEC has been made. And when we reach the precedent conditions, we can make the announcements and the details of the transaction. I'd like to underline that this is not buying an electricity plant. Moderator01:51:21It's for the remote electricity to serve the electrical consumption only of Ecopetrol. Remember, Ecopetrol is the main consumer electrical energy of the country. So these types of acquisitions do contribute to the power supply strategy that we have on a medium and long term basis. Perfect. Thank you. Moderator01:51:44The other question is on the midstream that we haven't discussed. What impacts do you see on the midstream on revenue given the lower prices of oil today? Good morning, Stephanie. I am the President of SETI. What we see on a short term basis, the impact as well. Moderator01:52:23And as Rafael said, the production does go hand in hand with our expectations of the year in terms of revenue. So you mean that there's no indexation of the rates on the oil prices? No. Perfect. Thank you so much. Moderator01:52:40And to end, going back to the regasification, I understand that you're sub hiring the capacity of regasifying. But how would the or better, can you clarify what the licenses that you would need to have this regasification and milestones needed for this. This is David Villanue. I'm the Executive VP of Energies for Transition. As we've said before and you've underlined with the Pacific, we are hiring the services of regasification in which the contractor is in charge of building the facilities, operating them and maintaining them to meet the availabilities of the service demanded in the contract. Moderator01:53:43As far as the permits, the contractor already has them, especially the environmental authority has certified that they don't need the environmental license in the facilities at Buga. And the permits in Buenaventura are in effect. So according to the timeline of the contractor, the construction will begin June 28 this year. So that way, we can have the commissioning of the contract or even before the date, pacted. Great. Moderator01:54:27Thank you so much for your answers. Thank you. There are no more questions. So now let's read the questions of the chat. Peter asks, can you share an update on the discussions made on importing of GNL? Moderator01:54:50Again, this is David Rihanna. In addition to what we've mentioned in this call on the contracting regasification in The Pacific And as we've also mentioned in the sector, there are two additional initiatives in The Caribbean that seek to make use of facilities of Ecopetrol. One is called Ballena LNG, which will connect one floating unit for regasification to the Chuchupave platform, which already is connected to Ballena and to the National Grid of Gas that's managed by TGI and in The Caribbean and also by Promigas. And then the second project, The Caribbean, it's called Covenas LNG, which will use the facilities of Senate in that area of the country and will connect to the gas system through the conversion of the group, which Jobo Vasconia. This is advancing, yes. Moderator01:55:59We already have conceptual designs and we'll make the consultations before the environmental authorities and sea authorities to obtain permits quickly and to have this regasification of one or both or by 2027. In parallel, we've begun this year the requirements for the LNG in the international market. We already have nonbinding offers of LNG providers overseas. And while we can obtain the permits, we can get the molecule. Alejandro Sanchez from Allianza says, do you plan to incorporate reserves this year for the Gato Do Mato project? Moderator01:57:00Are these approved, probable or possible accounting wise? Could you give us more details about the situation of the Barrancabermeja refinery because the charge dropped 8% year, but the plants began only three days before the first quarter ended. This is Rafael Guzman. Let me answer the first question of Gato do Mato. Indeed, we are going to incorporate proven reserves this year given the decision of investment on the project. Moderator01:57:42Last year, we had certified BRL112 million barrels of oil for contingency. The contingency was the approval of the development plan from the partners, which did take place this quarter. Most of these resources will go to proven reserves and that the other part to non proven reserves. Good morning. This is Felipe Trejo, VP of Industrial Processes. Moderator01:58:18The decrease of 8% in the charge of the refinery of Barrancabermeja in the first quarter is for three things. One, the schedule stop of the oil and the hydro treatment, which stopped the operation. The second is the lower availability of light crude oil, especially in Cardiolimon, which does hit or hurt the processing like the lubricants and the paraffins. And third relates to the maintenance of the UAP two, which began at the end of quarter days before the operations were adjusted and this affected the availability. But it's important to keep in mind that this is a seventy four day overhaul stoppage. Moderator01:59:13It's part of the timetable or schedule. And we expect with the OP2 contribution very, very important after the second semester. Oriana Cabot from Balance Sets. On the midstream business, is there any relevant update on the tariffs that should take place for the twenty twenty three, twenty twenty seven period? What's the impact expected from Ana and Rubiales? Moderator01:59:56Good morning. This is Aleksandre Cadena again. I think that there is no update on the rates or tariffs, but I'd like to remind you the process that we have experienced to update the tariff. It's been a year since the resolution was issued and the agents, the producers and the companies of transportation presented comments about it and they were given on time to the Ministry of Mining. The number of comments were so many that the ministry started to review them with different agents, meetings, regular meetings have been held, technical meetings to review the impact on the tariffs. Moderator02:00:54But now there is no estimated date for final resolution. It's important to clarify that meanwhile, we apply the tariffs that are enforced and in August 26, the ministry published Resolution two eighty five, which enabled an annual tariff that was included in the prior methodology. This was made as of September 1. It's important to highlight that this is part of what explains the higher EBITDA of the midstream seen compared to the first quarter of last year. Felipe Gomez from Ashburn asks, why does the plan presented by Ecopetrol to 02/1940 has a CapEx for ESA almost half of what ESA presented for its own 02/1940 strategy? Moderator02:02:02Good morning. On the question regarding the environmental licenses against the Frontera Energy and Ecopetrol, It's a point to highlight that the procedure just began. ANLA has not charged any of these companies. We are in the initial phases. Once the charges are established, we will respond them and defend them under the administrative proceeding. Moderator02:02:42Camilo Arco, again, the CFO. And let me answer your question related to the investments plan announced recently by ESA, talking about its twenty four year strategy versus the figures that possibly we have on investment plans of this company. I'd like to mention that, yes, the strategic investment plan disclosed recently by ESA is reviewed and adjusted. And it's conciliates with the investment plans Ecopetrol's investment plan by 02/1940. And there are major challenges not only with the investments that are growing, but to renew some concessions. Moderator02:03:39Now at Ecopetrol, we are analyzing and reviewing the strategy And surely there we can align the investment plans that go between billion and MXN33 billion. No, 28,000,000,000 and $33,000,000,000 for '25 to 02/1940. Allow me to end this call. Thank all of you for joining us with the following messages. Ecopetrol firmly bets on its advancements plan with the flexibility announced, enhancing the fundamentals of the business of hydrocarbons even in the middle of the complexities that we're seeing. Moderator02:04:35Second, we'll remain the idea of growing our businesses. We have a discipline with our working capital and the idea is always to benefit society and our shareholders. And we will continue measuring, monitoring, sensibilizing and evaluating every element that can hurt the liquidity and leverage growth that can hit or hurt the company, which has to do with a billion pesos that we will reach in savings at the end of the year. And all this so together, we can build and making our big make this company the company of all. Thank you. Moderator02:05:31Thank you all. And with this, we end this earnings call for the first quarter of twenty twenty five. Thank you for joining us. You can leave now.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesRicardo Roa BarragánPresident & CEORafael GuzmánEVP of HydrocarbonsDavid Riaño AlarcónEVP of Energy for TransitionCamilo MuñozCFO & Chief Value OfficerAnalystsModeratorAnalystPowered by