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Earnings HistoryForecast Mayville Engineering EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.04Consensus EPS $0.01Beat/MissBeat by +$0.03One Year Ago EPS$0.22Mayville Engineering Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$135.58 millionExpected Revenue$134.52 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$1.06 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AMayville Engineering Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/6/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, May 7, 2025Conference Call Time10:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Mayville Engineering Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 7, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining the Mayville Engineering Company First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. My name is Sami, and I'll be coordinating your call today. I would now like to hand over to your host, Stefan Neely, with Valem Advisers to begin. Stefan, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:28Thank you, operator. On behalf of our entire team, I'd like to welcome you to our first quarter twenty twenty five results conference call. Leading the call today is MiX President and CEO, Jack Reddy and Rochelle Lair, Chief Financial Officer. Today's discussion contains forward looking statements about future business and financial expectations. Actual results may differ significantly from those projected in today's forward looking statements due to various risks and uncertainties, including the risks described in our periodic reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Speaker 100:01:00Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update our forward looking statements. Further, this call will include the discussion of certain non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation of these measures to the closest GAAP financial measure is included in our quarterly earnings press release, which is available at mechinc.com. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Jack. Speaker 200:01:25Thank you, Stefan, and good morning, everyone. Our first quarter results reflected the team's strong execution and operational discipline. This allowed us to deliver 12% sequential sales growth, margin expansion and positive free cash flow despite softer customer demand amid continued inventory destocking. Our team's commitment to the MBX framework, culture of continuous improvement and cost discipline contributed 140 basis points in sequential adjusted EBITDA margin improvement. These efforts to create a leaner cost structure allows us to operate more efficiently in this dynamic demand environment and create a platform to respond better when customer demand returns. Speaker 200:02:18Rochelle will discuss the outlook in more detail shortly, but I would like to mention that we are maintaining our full year guidance. Our outlook is driven by strong year to date execution and stronger than expected demand within our less cyclical military and other end markets. That said, we are closely monitoring the evolving regulatory and macroeconomic environment, which could impact demand in the second half of the year. At MEC, we are proud to be the largest domestic metal fabricator with approximately 95 of our sales and 92% of our sourcing coming from within The United States. As we await more clarity on the long term direction of US trade policy, our business is well positioned to remain highly competitive as policy shifts occur and should be relatively insulated from the direct impact of tariffs. Speaker 200:03:23Our domestic footprint also enables us to benefit from OEM reshoring activity, a trend that is being accelerated by the ongoing changes in US trade policy. We have recently been engaged with numerous new and existing customers who are exploring options to reposition their supply chain. Given the dynamic nature of our current trade policy, we expect that this trend will take time to develop. Turning now to a more detailed review of market conditions across our primary end markets. Let's begin with our commercial vehicle market, which represents approximately 38% of our trailing twelve month revenues. Speaker 200:04:11Net sales to this market were $50,900,000 in the first quarter, a decrease of 13.7% versus the prior year period. Our net sales outperformed the broader commercial vehicle market by 300 basis points as evidenced by a reported 16.7% year over year decrease in North American Class eight truck production according to ACT Research. Our outperformance was driven primarily by new project launches. As we look forward to 2025, ACT Research currently forecast the Class eight vehicle production to decrease 22.9 year over year in 2025 to approximately 256,000 units. Uncertainty around the impact of tariffs, possible regulation changes and freight rates are expected to weigh on demand in 2025, pushing out the recovery into 2026. Speaker 200:05:15That said, both our current guidance and ACT's forecast for 2025 do not fully reflect the potential impact to the commercial vehicle demand that would result from a recession or the repeal of EPA emissions requirements. Looking out to 2026, the latest ACT forecast also continues to show full year production growing by 18.3% relative to 2025. This is driven by demand for new vehicles ahead of the deadline for compliance with EPA emissions regulations in 2027. The powersports market represented approximately 16% of our trailing twelve month revenues and decreased by 26.5% on a year over year basis in the first quarter. Performance during the quarter continues to be driven by customer channel inventory destocking and soft customer demand. Speaker 200:06:17This was partially offset by the impact of new project ramp ups Due to the current economic landscape and uncertainty around tariffs, we remain cautious on spend for high ticket customer discretionary items. Next is the construction and access market, which represented approximately 15% of our trailing twelve month revenues. Our construction and access revenue decreased 31.4% on a year over year basis in the first quarter. This reflects soft demand across both non residential and public infrastructure markets, partially offset by ongoing new customer wins. We are closely monitoring nonresidential and infrastructure demand trends. Speaker 200:07:05If a better than anticipated economic environment or lower interest rates can drive a recovery in construction activity, we would expect demand to recover. We do see the risk that an economic downturn could possibly prolong the current softness that we are seeing in this end market. Our agricultural market represented approximately 8% of trailing twelve month revenues and decreased by 26.9 on a year over year basis during the first quarter. Our results reflect weakness in both large and small agricultural markets. The outlook for Ag remains increasingly uncertain as interest rates and inventory destocking have slowed demand. Speaker 200:07:56While agriculture customers are farther along with inventory destocking than customers in other segments, the impact of trade policy on crop demand has created uncertainty for farmers and the outlook for equipment demand. Turning now to an overview of substantial new business wins during the first quarter. Our team continues to execute well on our commercial growth initiatives and are already progressing well toward our annual goal of $100,000,000 in new business wins. We have continued to expand our share with our commercial vehicle customers as they launch their next generation models leading into the EPA regulation changes. Many of these products support future growth and will be launching in 2026 and 2027. Speaker 200:08:51After some strategic wins last quarter, we continue to expand our market share with our Access customer as they continue to evaluate their global supply base. Our US manufacturing facilities located near the customer remains a key differentiator, consistently delivering the best value within their supply chain. In the quarter, we were able to secure a significant program update from our aluminum extrusions business, extending a multiyear contract. This project is priced utilizing our updated value pricing model, which will expand profitability over the life of the program. Within our power sports market, we are seeing customers focus on introducing their next generation products, which we expect will be a catalyst for additional commercial growth in the coming quarters. Speaker 200:09:48In the quarter, we secured multiple new model update wins with their primary construction customer as we further expand share with this customer across multiple product lines. Our team's execution of the MBX framework continues to deliver measurable results. We have been focused on implementing pricing improvements and disciplined cost management to strengthen our overall financial profile. The effectiveness of our MBX initiatives is particularly evident in our working capital efficiency, which has resulted in consistent operating cash flow generation. During the first quarter, we generated $5,400,000 in free cash flow, resulting in free cash flow conversion of 44% of adjusted EBITDA. Speaker 200:10:40This comes during a quarter where we typically experience net working capital pressure. For the past few years, we have instilled lean manufacturing practices into our business focusing on high return capital light automation advancements supporting our planned growth and improved efficiency. These enhancements combined with our other MBX initiatives drove consistent profitability. This helped us execute on our capital allocation strategy, which prioritizes debt repayment, opportunistic share repurchases and strategic accretive acquisitions. During the first quarter, our net leverage was 1.4 times. Speaker 200:11:27Excluding any M and A activity, we expect to be below one times net debt leverage by the end of twenty twenty five. Additionally, we repurchased $1,700,000 of our common stock under our share repurchase program. Over the course of the last two years, we have returned $9,600,000 of capital to shareholders through repurchases totaling more than 646,000 shares. With more than $17,000,000 remaining under the existing authorization, we remain committed to consistent share repurchases. At a minimum, we plan to repurchase 5,000,000 to $6,000,000 to offset the dilution from our annual stock compensation awards. Speaker 200:12:15Beyond our minimum repurchase threshold, we will evaluate additional repurchases using a returns based approach that takes into consideration opportunities to grow our business and create value through acquisitions. M and A remains a cornerstone of our value creation strategy as we seek to expand into high growth adjacent end markets and diversify our customer base. Our team has cultivated a pipeline of acquisition targets that align with our strategic criteria. While we are actively pursuing these opportunities to build upon our market leading capabilities, we remain disciplined and committed to driving long term shareholder value. In summary, I am extremely proud of our team's strategic execution as seen by our strong first quarter performance. Speaker 200:13:13We have adapted to shifting end market demands by recalibrating our cost structure and improving our operational efficiency. As the largest vertically integrated value added manufacturing partner in The US, we offer a comprehensive suite of solutions that make us a true one stop partner. We support our customers throughout the entire product life cycle from concept to full scale production With a strong presence in the industrial heartland and robust end to end capabilities, we are uniquely positioned to support OEMs accelerating their onshoring efforts in response to shifting U. S. Trade policies and the global rebalancing of supply chains. Speaker 200:14:04Despite a dynamic and uncertain macroeconomic environment, I remain confident in our ability to expand market share, capitalize on emerging tailwinds such as domestic manufacturing incentives and the tariff structures and maintain disciplined execution. Importantly, as we continue to work closely with our OEM partners, we remain acutely focused on monitoring macroeconomic and regulatory developments across our end markets. In anticipation of potential demand shifts, our teams have developed a comprehensive set of contingency plans that can be deployed swiftly to preserve profitability and operational agility. These plans include flexible production scheduling, targeted fixed cost reductions, and the consolidation of certain manufacturing processes to improve efficiency. Should we begin to see material regulatory changes or recessionary pressures, we are well positioned to take decisive action to manage through the cycle while safeguarding our margin profile. Speaker 200:15:13Our continued focus remains on driving consistent profitable growth and creating sustainable long term value for our shareholders. With that, I will now turn the call over to Rochelle to review our financial results. Speaker 300:15:27Thank you, Jag, and good morning, everyone. Total sales for the first quarter decreased 15.9% year over year to $135,600,000 This decrease was due to softer customer demand across the majority of the company's key end markets and customer channel inventory destocking. This is partially offset by volume from new projects in our other end market and increased aftermarket demand in our military end market. Our manufacturing margin was 15,300,000 in the first quarter as compared to $20,900,000 in the same prior year period. The decrease was primarily driven by the corresponding decrease in net sales. Speaker 300:16:12Our manufacturing margin rate was 11.3% for the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to 13% for the prior year period. The decrease in our manufacturing margin rate was attributable to lower fixed cost absorption from lower customer sales, partially offset by cost reduction actions. Other selling, general and administrative expenses were $8,700,000 for the first quarter of twenty twenty five or 6.4% of net sales as compared to $7,800,000 for the same prior year period or 4.8% of net sales. The increase in these expenses during the first quarter primarily reflects normal wage inflation and higher costs related to compliance requirements, market analysis studies and other consulting expenses. These costs will ease as the year progresses. Speaker 300:17:07And as customer demand returns, we expect that our SG and A will revert to our long term targeted range of between 4.5% to 5.5% of sales. Interest expense was $1,600,000 for the first quarter of twenty twenty five as compared to $3,400,000 in the prior year period due to a reduction in borrowings and lower interest rates relative to the first quarter of last year. Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter was $12,200,000 versus $18,500,000 for the same prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA margin percent decreased by two fifty basis points to 9% in the current quarter as compared to 11.5% for the same prior year period. Our adjusted EBITDA margin decrease was attributable to lower sales, partially offset by cost rationalization initiatives. Speaker 300:18:01Turning now to our statement of cash flows and balance sheet. Free cash flow during the first quarter of twenty twenty five was $5,400,000 as compared to $7,900,000 in the prior year period. The decrease in free cash flow as compared to the prior year reflects the impact of lower sales, offset partially by net working capital efficiencies. As of the end of the first quarter of twenty twenty five, our debt, which includes bank debt, financing agreements and finance lease obligations, was $80,600,000 down from $143,100,000 at the end of the first quarter of twenty twenty four and resulted in a net leverage ratio of 1.4 times as of March 31. Now turning to a review of our 2025 financial guidance. Speaker 300:18:55We are maintaining our 2025 financial guidance, which we introduced earlier this year. We continue to expect net sales of between $560,000,000 and $590,000,000 adjusted EBITDA of between $60,000,000 and $66,000,000 and free cash flow between $43,000,000 and $50,000,000 This guidance incorporates shifting market expectations as the outlook has improved for some but softened for others. For our commercial vehicle end market, we expect sales to decrease low single digits. The construction and access market to be flat to down low single digits. The powersports market is expected to decrease mid single to low double digits. Speaker 300:19:42The agriculture market to be down by mid-twenty percent. The military market is now expected to be a mid teens increase, and we expect our other end markets to be a high teens increase. As Jake mentioned, there are many evolving dynamics within our end markets. We recognize the rising degree of uncertainty in these markets individually and across the broader economic environment. While we are continuing to monitor developments closely with our OEM customers, our guidance currently does not reflect a potential recessionary environment later in the year or any commercial vehicle emissions rule changes that could impact demand later in the year. Speaker 300:20:25In anticipation of the potential for a recession or possible changes in the commercial vehicle regulations, we have created a playbook to navigate each of these scenarios. For each, we have plans to swiftly scale our operating activities in response to demand and tactically reduce our fixed costs to preserve our margins. With respect to tariffs, we expect minimal direct financial impact to MEC as our contracts and pricing mechanisms enable us to pass through increases in raw material costs to our customers. While these pass throughs are expected to be modestly margin dilutive, the impact is minimal and has been fully contemplated within our current guidance. Furthermore, embedded within our 2025 adjusted EBITDA guidance is $1,000,000 to $3,000,000 of cost improvement driven by our MBX operational excellence and strategic value based pricing initiatives net of inflationary pressures. Speaker 300:21:28As it relates to free cash flow guidance, we expect that our capital expenditures for the year will be in a range between $13,000,000 and $17,000,000 Based on our free cash flow guidance and excluding any M and A activity, we expect to be below one times net debt leverage by year end. With that, operator, that concludes our prepared remarks. Please open the line for questions as we begin our question and answer session. Operator00:22:02Thank you very much. Our first question comes from Ross Sparaneblack from William Blair. Speaker 400:22:30Hey. Maybe just to kick it off here, as we think about kind of the cadence of the end markets for the second half, can you maybe just kind of walk us through anything that stands out? It looks like maybe commercial vehicles had a slight ramp in the second half, whereas power sports ag may be more steady on the top line? Speaker 200:22:50Yes. That is correct, Ross. Our current guidance as we indicated earlier in March when we released our guidance includes a slight uptick in the CV market in the second half. That is related to potential 2027 regulation changes and pre buys in both 2025 and 2026. We also said, in March that, our first half is going to be approximately equal to the second half of last year, '20 '20 '4, and that we expect a modest increase, with potential pre buys and also potential, interest rate changes in the second half of twenty twenty five. Speaker 200:23:41Related to as it relates to powersports, that market continues to be highly interest rate dependent, and we don't expect any significant changes in demand forecast in powersports. And similarly, in agriculture, we do not expect any recovery in 2025 and expect the recovery to take some shape in 2026. Speaker 400:24:09Okay. Maybe just touching on tariffs and potential for reshoring. Are you seeing opportunities? And if so, if there are any end markets that stand out? Speaker 200:24:21We continue to have good discussions with both existing customers and new customers as it relates to tariffs. We have provided a number of customers with quotes and pricing on potential opportunities. Given the dynamic, nature of current tariff discussions and, our customers are being very conservative, and they are not in a position yet to make significant decisions because the tariffs sort of magically go away in three months. Right? You know, they don't wanna be stuck with a different price structure in their supply chain. Speaker 200:25:00So I think, you know, just like all of us, our customers are also watching day to day the developments. And, you know, if if there is a significant tariff impact, I think Mac is well positioned to capture those opportunities. As as we mentioned in our prepared remarks, we're a % domestic manufacturer. 92 plus percent of our inputs are US sourced. If you include some of the Canadian purchases of aluminum that we get, which we're actively sourcing back to The US, it's almost 95% to 96% of our inputs are domestically sourced. Speaker 200:25:42Given that, and our locations that are really favorable to our customers' operations, we're really well positioned to take advantage of any increased tariff regime we might see in the long run. Speaker 400:25:59Okay. So if we were just assuming that tariffs are structural, what the what is like the average onboarding timeline for a customer? Just maybe a sense that Speaker 200:26:09it could be 2025 Speaker 400:26:10or if it would be 2026. I Speaker 200:26:13think by let's say by middle of the year, we see some really structural tariff regimes in place. We could start up a program as quickly as three to four months. And depending on the size of the program, I could even be shorter than that. So there is a potential, if we see a static tariff regime by middle of the year, there is a potential for us, certainly late q three, early q '4, for us to see some incremental benefit and tailwind to MEG. Speaker 400:26:50Okay. Thank you for that. I'll jump back in queue. Speaker 200:26:54All right. Thanks, Ross. Operator00:26:58Our next question comes from Ted Jackson from Northland Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:27:06Thanks. First of all, on, just being able to control the things that you can control. You know, it's a good question. My my question is good morning. Sorry. Speaker 100:27:20I'm in an airport, so it's a little noisy in here. The the when you went through the, outlook for your different segments, I didn't catch quite everything. What did you say for agriculture, and what did you say for power sports? Speaker 200:27:32Yeah. Agriculture, we expect, ag market, at least our revenues to be down mid twenties. And powersports, we expect to be down somewhere between low single digits sorry, mid single digits to mid teens. Speaker 300:27:52I can hear you, sir. Speaker 100:27:55Okay. The the guide surprised me. I mean, you know, the the color coming out of anyone who has any exposure within the commercial vehicle marketplace is, I mean, it's just it's honestly terrible. And I mean, think that the tenor is that it's perhaps going to get worse before it gets better. And the ability for you to offset with things like military and others and pressure. Speaker 100:28:19So with that in mind, could you maybe provide a little more color about what's driving the improved outlook for both of those segments? Speaker 200:28:27Yes. So let me address CV market first, Ted. As we mentioned in our prepared remarks, we are qualifying our guidance maintenance on two factors, given that CV is almost 40 of our revenues. First one is recession. We're not building in any recession in the second half into our guidance. Speaker 200:28:53In fact, as we said, we're expecting a slight pickup in the second half revenues. That's number one. Number two is we're not building in any potential impact of potential cancellation of EPA regulation changes. So let me get into that a little bit more. The current guidance incorporates some level of pre buys in in second half of this year and also going into 2026. Speaker 200:29:23If for any reason, EPA decides to change, the new regulations that are set to come in in 2027. There are two effects to that regulation change. The first one is called what's called as the GHG, changes, level three, GHG number three changes. That really doesn't impact, any of our commercial vehicle customer volumes. That regulation only requires that industry Speaker 300:29:53forty eight forty five 49. Speaker 200:29:58Sorry. That GHG three regulations, phase three regulations imply that the industry has to produce more electrical, vehicles. So if that gets canceled, we don't expect our customers to see any significant volume impact. That means we won't see any significant volume impact. The second part of the 2027 regulation changes is what's called as NOx changes. Speaker 200:30:21Today, the current engines are allowed to produce up to 200 milligrams of NOx emissions, whereas the 2027 regulations require the engine makers and the CV OEMs to get down to about 35 milligrams of NOx emissions. That is currently set in law. So let me repeat that. That is currently set in law to go into effect in 2027. That is a significant lift for the administration to change that. Speaker 200:30:53It has to go and change the law and then suspend the 2027 regulation changes. If that happens, that is a material event for the industry. So I want to caution that, you know, it's a heavy lift to change that. But if it does happen, then it's a material change to the industry. That will affect the pre buys in 2025. Speaker 200:31:14That will affect, the pre buys in 2026. But if you take a long arc of a three year period, right, the volumes are just going to normalize. Volumes are not going to disappear. It's just they're going to normalize versus this peaks and valleys we normally see in the CV market. Right? Speaker 200:31:32So that is really where we are. So, as we sit here, we're maintaining our guidance, with those two caveats of no recession in the second half and no, 2027 knocks changes, from EPA. If we find that, you know, these changes are gonna happen in the coming months, we're happy to revisit our guidance, and we're happy to, inform all of you what the impact might be, on our 2025 and 2026 revenues. Speaker 300:32:04And I would just add, this goes back to your opening statement, Ted, control what we can control. And so that's where we have developed our playbook of the different scenarios. And so should any of these events take place, we have the playbook lined out so we can execute swiftly and control our margins manage our margins. Speaker 100:32:27And I was remiss in not welcoming you to the quarterly calls. I look forward to working with you. Speaker 300:32:35Thank you, Ted. Operator00:32:42Our next question comes from Andrew Kaplowitz from Citigroup. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:32:50Hi, good morning. This is Natalia Block on behalf of Andy Kaplowitz. Speaker 400:32:55Morning. How are you? Morning, Natalia. So Speaker 500:32:59I guess first question that I wanna ask is, like, based on your team's based on your commercial team's engagement, how would you characterize the tone of customer conversations today versus three to six months ago? Are customers in a more reactive wait and see mode, or are they still proactively exploring new projects? Speaker 200:33:16I would say that the customers in in certain end markets like ag and power sports, they are continuing to focus on destocking and continue to alter their production volumes to make sure that the channel inventories get cleared out. So in those end markets, the conversations have been slightly muted even though in our prepared remarks, talked about winning new business in construction, winning new business in power sports, etcetera. So we we are actively engaged with every one of our customers, but we also recognize that our OEMs have their own challenges that they're trying to deal with. And we're we're standing by them to support their activities, whether it's new product introductions, whether it is channel inventory reductions, or preparing for twenty twenty seven launches. As we said also in our remarks, we're on track to win approximately $100,000,000 of new business. Speaker 200:34:19In fact, as I sit here, April, we're ahead of our schedule in terms of winning new business, even in this environment. But mind you that, a a lot of those programs we're winning right now are either twenty twenty six starts or even twenty twenty seven twenty twenty seven starts. Right? So we're always focused on long term business development and long term growth for the company while, as Rochelle mentioned, trying to control what we can control in the short term. When it comes to commercial vehicle customers, we all follow ACT forecast. Speaker 200:34:58ACT forecasts have been more conservative than what our OEMs have indicated both publicly and what we see in our forecast from them. Right? So we're taking a cautious approach to the CV end market because we know that there are some unanswered questions, particularly around EPA regulations that we just talked about. So with all of that, we're continuing to work with our customers, continuing to look for opportunities to support them. And we're engaged with a couple of powersports customers where they're evaluating how much of their Asia made components they want to bring back to The US. Speaker 200:35:38Right? So, and we our teams have been extremely busy in answering, inquiries around, you know, reshoring and onshoring opportunities. So it's an exciting time for us because, yes, there seem to be some dark clouds on the horizon, but our team is highly engaged with our customers. We're trying to control our cost structure. And we're cautiously optimistic about some sort of settlement towards this tariff regime, whether structural or not. Speaker 200:36:11We'll have some clarity in the coming months. And we're still planning on, if our second half being slightly positive compared to our first half. Speaker 500:36:23Got it. That's helpful. And then just two follow-up questions to that. I guess, first question, as a follow-up, could you help us better understand, like, your revenue mix in terms of long term recurring programs for short cycle project based work? Like, how's that mix shifted over time, and does it influence your visibility into the second half of this year and in flash work 2026? Speaker 200:36:46So generally speaking, you know, depending on the size of the program, it might take us, you know, three months to start up a small program to eighteen months to start up a really large program. So given the mix that of new business we're winning, a significant portion of the new business we're winning right now is perhaps 26 or 27 startups. And the rule of thumb is if we don't have that business in our bag by middle of the year, that's generally a twenty twenty six start up. Right? So having said that, the tariff regime has opened up some opportunities for us. Speaker 200:37:28We're actively working them as we speak. That could, you know, be potential second half startups. We're encouraged by some of those activities. And, you know, as they materialize more, you know, we'll be happy to share more about them. And by the way, so some of those opportunities, as I said, are in powersports, some of them are in electrical infrastructure, some of them are related to data centers. Speaker 200:37:55So some of these non legacy end markets as well are coming to four where we're really excited to support these new customers. Speaker 300:38:05And those new opportunities are the place where we're able to put in our strategic value based pricing model. And so as we look to the long term in 2627, you'll see more of that in place as you look to our margins versus what you're seeing now because probably now only, you know, five to 10% of our programs are under that, and we'll have far more in '26 and '27. Speaker 500:38:28Okay. Got it. That's really helpful. And then last question for me. Just focusing on the agricultural end market, you know, ag being down mid twenties, this year that you are forecasting. Speaker 500:38:38How should we think about timing for recovery? Are you modeling 2026 as a bounce back here or expecting more of a gradual return? Speaker 200:38:47It's a it still continues to be a dynamic environment. Current tariff regime doesn't really help, as farmers are looking at, potential recovery in crop prices and exports, current high tariffs from countries like China do not really help US Farmers. Having said all of that, the latest Purdue University Ag survey, for the first time in a long time, indicated a positive uptick in farmer sentiment. That is something that, you know, really for us to watch as we go through 2025. Our initial assumption is that 2026 will be a gradual recovery for Ag. Speaker 200:39:32But given the changes in global trade policy and potentially some increased former sentiment, it is possible that we could see a bounce back, but that's not something that we are planning at this point, but we're closely watching it. Speaker 500:39:52Okay. Got it. That's super helpful. Thank you. Speaker 200:39:55Thank you. Operator00:40:03Our next question comes from Ross Sparaneblack from William Blair. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:40:11Hey, guys. Just a couple more here, if you don't mind. Thinking on the new business opportunities and the hundred million dollars target, can you just update us on the progress year to date and what the mix has been between new and existing customers? Speaker 200:40:26I think we're on by April, Ross, we're somewhere between 35 and 40 million of new business booked. That's a little bit ahead, you know, to do the linear math. Right? You know, it's a little bit ahead, know, timeline wise to our hundred million dollar target. Our sales teams are, you know, really active with existing customers. Speaker 200:40:50That is our first focus. And we're continuing to see a good set of wins in the CV market and also power sports. And we've mentioned as well construction and access market. So I would say that in all of these end markets, we're making good progress. What I call as forming versus hunting. Speaker 200:41:13Our team is excellent in forming. We're from the Midwest. Right? We know how to do that really well. But at the same time, you know, we have had a significant focus since, you know, last year to look at new opportunities and new customers and new end markets. Speaker 200:41:29So we're to engage with new customers in data center and electrical infrastructure and other end markets that are seeing secular growth. So those are the end markets we're excited about. We're having good conversations with them. I would say the $35,000,000 to $40,000,000 I just mentioned to you, a significant portion of that is existing customers with a sprinkling of new customers. But our pipeline is really strong and I'm fully confident that our teams will hit the $100,000,000 new business target this year. Speaker 200:42:07And I do expect, as we go into the second half, that we will see some new customers added to our list. Speaker 400:42:18Yes. No, that's great to hear. Maybe just kind of conceptualizing this growing program funnel. Do you think that there's gonna be some momentum here? I mean, is there a chance we could exit the year at, you $1.20, 1 60? Speaker 400:42:34Or was this just more of a, you know, seasonality to the the start of the year? Speaker 200:42:39It's hard to hard to tell. Look, you know, as you mentioned earlier, right, if if the tariffs are gonna be structural, right, that's a huge advantage for for Mac. So we will wait and see. Of course, right, like many of us, we want more US manufacturing. We want certain level of competitiveness for US companies. Speaker 200:43:00So given all of that, I'm optimistic that, you know, with this even some small structural changes, we will be able to gain ground and gain more business in the second half. Speaker 400:43:13Okay. Well, yeah, just understanding the potential for kind of a lower for longer scenario here in some of the core markets. I mean, would be to gauge your confidence level today around maybe achieving just the lower end of the 2026 revenue targets, you know, just thinking of kind of contribution of, you know, new business opportunities versus what would be required for the macro recovery? Speaker 200:43:35That's a great question. As we talked about in our last earnings call, our view has not changed about 2026. We still see a line of sight to low end of our 2026 range, revenue range. At the same time, right, unless the bottom falls off and there's a huge recession and a significant change to EPA regulation, those are the two caveats I'll continue to mention. If we don't see those two things, then yes, we still see a line of sight to low end of the range in 2026. Speaker 400:44:14Okay. But even with with, like, the, you know, push out of the regulations, I mean, that's maybe 50,000,000 of business. So, know, 700 is still kind of a win in this environment. Speaker 200:44:26Yeah. I I I would agree with you. At the same time, right, we also no one has asked us, so I'll just volunteer. Right? We continue to look for M and A opportunities. Speaker 200:44:35We continue to be active and given our balance sheet and given our free cash flow generation capabilities. And we'll see how the rest of the year materializes. There's a good possibility that we could enter some end markets that could provide additional growth for us through M and A as well. Speaker 400:45:00Yeah. That's actually a great segue here. Just, you know, thinking about kind of the pipeline for M and A, how are you guys prioritizing in market diversification versus maybe geographic reach or additional manufacturing capabilities? Is there a a top target for you right now? Speaker 200:45:15Yeah. Great question. I think, first and foremost for us, priority is diversification. Particularly given, you know, many of our end markets sort of went into the same down cycle this year that really, you know, opened our eyes to the need for further diversification of our end markets. So that's probably our number one. Speaker 200:45:40Not probably. That is our number one priority is diversification. Number two priority for us is accretive margin profile. And then I would say the third priority is being close to our customers with perhaps a a different geographic exposure within The US. We're not going also The US. Speaker 200:46:00We're still a US based company, a US based manufacturing company. So perhaps Southern states, all of that, as we mentioned in our M and A strategy slide that's on our website. That is still our focus. And we have enough number of targets in our pipeline that match those criteria. And we're really excited about what we can do here in the coming year. Speaker 400:46:28That's great to hear. Thanks again, guys. Congrats. Speaker 200:46:32Thanks, Ross. Thank you. Operator00:46:36We currently have no further questions. So I'd like to hand back to Jag Reddy for some closing remarks. Speaker 200:46:44Once again, thank you for joining our call. We appreciate your continued support of MEC, and we look forward to updating you on our progress next quarter. Should you have any questions, please contact Noel Ryan or Stephen Neely at Valem, our Investor Relations Counsel. This concludes our call today. You may now disconnect. Operator00:47:08Thank you very much for joining. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining the Mayville Engineering Company First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. My name is Sami, and I'll be coordinating your call today. I would now like to hand over to your host, Stefan Neely, with Valem Advisers to begin. Stefan, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:28Thank you, operator. On behalf of our entire team, I'd like to welcome you to our first quarter twenty twenty five results conference call. Leading the call today is MiX President and CEO, Jack Reddy and Rochelle Lair, Chief Financial Officer. Today's discussion contains forward looking statements about future business and financial expectations. Actual results may differ significantly from those projected in today's forward looking statements due to various risks and uncertainties, including the risks described in our periodic reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Speaker 100:01:00Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update our forward looking statements. Further, this call will include the discussion of certain non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation of these measures to the closest GAAP financial measure is included in our quarterly earnings press release, which is available at mechinc.com. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Jack. Speaker 200:01:25Thank you, Stefan, and good morning, everyone. Our first quarter results reflected the team's strong execution and operational discipline. This allowed us to deliver 12% sequential sales growth, margin expansion and positive free cash flow despite softer customer demand amid continued inventory destocking. Our team's commitment to the MBX framework, culture of continuous improvement and cost discipline contributed 140 basis points in sequential adjusted EBITDA margin improvement. These efforts to create a leaner cost structure allows us to operate more efficiently in this dynamic demand environment and create a platform to respond better when customer demand returns. Speaker 200:02:18Rochelle will discuss the outlook in more detail shortly, but I would like to mention that we are maintaining our full year guidance. Our outlook is driven by strong year to date execution and stronger than expected demand within our less cyclical military and other end markets. That said, we are closely monitoring the evolving regulatory and macroeconomic environment, which could impact demand in the second half of the year. At MEC, we are proud to be the largest domestic metal fabricator with approximately 95 of our sales and 92% of our sourcing coming from within The United States. As we await more clarity on the long term direction of US trade policy, our business is well positioned to remain highly competitive as policy shifts occur and should be relatively insulated from the direct impact of tariffs. Speaker 200:03:23Our domestic footprint also enables us to benefit from OEM reshoring activity, a trend that is being accelerated by the ongoing changes in US trade policy. We have recently been engaged with numerous new and existing customers who are exploring options to reposition their supply chain. Given the dynamic nature of our current trade policy, we expect that this trend will take time to develop. Turning now to a more detailed review of market conditions across our primary end markets. Let's begin with our commercial vehicle market, which represents approximately 38% of our trailing twelve month revenues. Speaker 200:04:11Net sales to this market were $50,900,000 in the first quarter, a decrease of 13.7% versus the prior year period. Our net sales outperformed the broader commercial vehicle market by 300 basis points as evidenced by a reported 16.7% year over year decrease in North American Class eight truck production according to ACT Research. Our outperformance was driven primarily by new project launches. As we look forward to 2025, ACT Research currently forecast the Class eight vehicle production to decrease 22.9 year over year in 2025 to approximately 256,000 units. Uncertainty around the impact of tariffs, possible regulation changes and freight rates are expected to weigh on demand in 2025, pushing out the recovery into 2026. Speaker 200:05:15That said, both our current guidance and ACT's forecast for 2025 do not fully reflect the potential impact to the commercial vehicle demand that would result from a recession or the repeal of EPA emissions requirements. Looking out to 2026, the latest ACT forecast also continues to show full year production growing by 18.3% relative to 2025. This is driven by demand for new vehicles ahead of the deadline for compliance with EPA emissions regulations in 2027. The powersports market represented approximately 16% of our trailing twelve month revenues and decreased by 26.5% on a year over year basis in the first quarter. Performance during the quarter continues to be driven by customer channel inventory destocking and soft customer demand. Speaker 200:06:17This was partially offset by the impact of new project ramp ups Due to the current economic landscape and uncertainty around tariffs, we remain cautious on spend for high ticket customer discretionary items. Next is the construction and access market, which represented approximately 15% of our trailing twelve month revenues. Our construction and access revenue decreased 31.4% on a year over year basis in the first quarter. This reflects soft demand across both non residential and public infrastructure markets, partially offset by ongoing new customer wins. We are closely monitoring nonresidential and infrastructure demand trends. Speaker 200:07:05If a better than anticipated economic environment or lower interest rates can drive a recovery in construction activity, we would expect demand to recover. We do see the risk that an economic downturn could possibly prolong the current softness that we are seeing in this end market. Our agricultural market represented approximately 8% of trailing twelve month revenues and decreased by 26.9 on a year over year basis during the first quarter. Our results reflect weakness in both large and small agricultural markets. The outlook for Ag remains increasingly uncertain as interest rates and inventory destocking have slowed demand. Speaker 200:07:56While agriculture customers are farther along with inventory destocking than customers in other segments, the impact of trade policy on crop demand has created uncertainty for farmers and the outlook for equipment demand. Turning now to an overview of substantial new business wins during the first quarter. Our team continues to execute well on our commercial growth initiatives and are already progressing well toward our annual goal of $100,000,000 in new business wins. We have continued to expand our share with our commercial vehicle customers as they launch their next generation models leading into the EPA regulation changes. Many of these products support future growth and will be launching in 2026 and 2027. Speaker 200:08:51After some strategic wins last quarter, we continue to expand our market share with our Access customer as they continue to evaluate their global supply base. Our US manufacturing facilities located near the customer remains a key differentiator, consistently delivering the best value within their supply chain. In the quarter, we were able to secure a significant program update from our aluminum extrusions business, extending a multiyear contract. This project is priced utilizing our updated value pricing model, which will expand profitability over the life of the program. Within our power sports market, we are seeing customers focus on introducing their next generation products, which we expect will be a catalyst for additional commercial growth in the coming quarters. Speaker 200:09:48In the quarter, we secured multiple new model update wins with their primary construction customer as we further expand share with this customer across multiple product lines. Our team's execution of the MBX framework continues to deliver measurable results. We have been focused on implementing pricing improvements and disciplined cost management to strengthen our overall financial profile. The effectiveness of our MBX initiatives is particularly evident in our working capital efficiency, which has resulted in consistent operating cash flow generation. During the first quarter, we generated $5,400,000 in free cash flow, resulting in free cash flow conversion of 44% of adjusted EBITDA. Speaker 200:10:40This comes during a quarter where we typically experience net working capital pressure. For the past few years, we have instilled lean manufacturing practices into our business focusing on high return capital light automation advancements supporting our planned growth and improved efficiency. These enhancements combined with our other MBX initiatives drove consistent profitability. This helped us execute on our capital allocation strategy, which prioritizes debt repayment, opportunistic share repurchases and strategic accretive acquisitions. During the first quarter, our net leverage was 1.4 times. Speaker 200:11:27Excluding any M and A activity, we expect to be below one times net debt leverage by the end of twenty twenty five. Additionally, we repurchased $1,700,000 of our common stock under our share repurchase program. Over the course of the last two years, we have returned $9,600,000 of capital to shareholders through repurchases totaling more than 646,000 shares. With more than $17,000,000 remaining under the existing authorization, we remain committed to consistent share repurchases. At a minimum, we plan to repurchase 5,000,000 to $6,000,000 to offset the dilution from our annual stock compensation awards. Speaker 200:12:15Beyond our minimum repurchase threshold, we will evaluate additional repurchases using a returns based approach that takes into consideration opportunities to grow our business and create value through acquisitions. M and A remains a cornerstone of our value creation strategy as we seek to expand into high growth adjacent end markets and diversify our customer base. Our team has cultivated a pipeline of acquisition targets that align with our strategic criteria. While we are actively pursuing these opportunities to build upon our market leading capabilities, we remain disciplined and committed to driving long term shareholder value. In summary, I am extremely proud of our team's strategic execution as seen by our strong first quarter performance. Speaker 200:13:13We have adapted to shifting end market demands by recalibrating our cost structure and improving our operational efficiency. As the largest vertically integrated value added manufacturing partner in The US, we offer a comprehensive suite of solutions that make us a true one stop partner. We support our customers throughout the entire product life cycle from concept to full scale production With a strong presence in the industrial heartland and robust end to end capabilities, we are uniquely positioned to support OEMs accelerating their onshoring efforts in response to shifting U. S. Trade policies and the global rebalancing of supply chains. Speaker 200:14:04Despite a dynamic and uncertain macroeconomic environment, I remain confident in our ability to expand market share, capitalize on emerging tailwinds such as domestic manufacturing incentives and the tariff structures and maintain disciplined execution. Importantly, as we continue to work closely with our OEM partners, we remain acutely focused on monitoring macroeconomic and regulatory developments across our end markets. In anticipation of potential demand shifts, our teams have developed a comprehensive set of contingency plans that can be deployed swiftly to preserve profitability and operational agility. These plans include flexible production scheduling, targeted fixed cost reductions, and the consolidation of certain manufacturing processes to improve efficiency. Should we begin to see material regulatory changes or recessionary pressures, we are well positioned to take decisive action to manage through the cycle while safeguarding our margin profile. Speaker 200:15:13Our continued focus remains on driving consistent profitable growth and creating sustainable long term value for our shareholders. With that, I will now turn the call over to Rochelle to review our financial results. Speaker 300:15:27Thank you, Jag, and good morning, everyone. Total sales for the first quarter decreased 15.9% year over year to $135,600,000 This decrease was due to softer customer demand across the majority of the company's key end markets and customer channel inventory destocking. This is partially offset by volume from new projects in our other end market and increased aftermarket demand in our military end market. Our manufacturing margin was 15,300,000 in the first quarter as compared to $20,900,000 in the same prior year period. The decrease was primarily driven by the corresponding decrease in net sales. Speaker 300:16:12Our manufacturing margin rate was 11.3% for the first quarter of twenty twenty five compared to 13% for the prior year period. The decrease in our manufacturing margin rate was attributable to lower fixed cost absorption from lower customer sales, partially offset by cost reduction actions. Other selling, general and administrative expenses were $8,700,000 for the first quarter of twenty twenty five or 6.4% of net sales as compared to $7,800,000 for the same prior year period or 4.8% of net sales. The increase in these expenses during the first quarter primarily reflects normal wage inflation and higher costs related to compliance requirements, market analysis studies and other consulting expenses. These costs will ease as the year progresses. Speaker 300:17:07And as customer demand returns, we expect that our SG and A will revert to our long term targeted range of between 4.5% to 5.5% of sales. Interest expense was $1,600,000 for the first quarter of twenty twenty five as compared to $3,400,000 in the prior year period due to a reduction in borrowings and lower interest rates relative to the first quarter of last year. Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter was $12,200,000 versus $18,500,000 for the same prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA margin percent decreased by two fifty basis points to 9% in the current quarter as compared to 11.5% for the same prior year period. Our adjusted EBITDA margin decrease was attributable to lower sales, partially offset by cost rationalization initiatives. Speaker 300:18:01Turning now to our statement of cash flows and balance sheet. Free cash flow during the first quarter of twenty twenty five was $5,400,000 as compared to $7,900,000 in the prior year period. The decrease in free cash flow as compared to the prior year reflects the impact of lower sales, offset partially by net working capital efficiencies. As of the end of the first quarter of twenty twenty five, our debt, which includes bank debt, financing agreements and finance lease obligations, was $80,600,000 down from $143,100,000 at the end of the first quarter of twenty twenty four and resulted in a net leverage ratio of 1.4 times as of March 31. Now turning to a review of our 2025 financial guidance. Speaker 300:18:55We are maintaining our 2025 financial guidance, which we introduced earlier this year. We continue to expect net sales of between $560,000,000 and $590,000,000 adjusted EBITDA of between $60,000,000 and $66,000,000 and free cash flow between $43,000,000 and $50,000,000 This guidance incorporates shifting market expectations as the outlook has improved for some but softened for others. For our commercial vehicle end market, we expect sales to decrease low single digits. The construction and access market to be flat to down low single digits. The powersports market is expected to decrease mid single to low double digits. Speaker 300:19:42The agriculture market to be down by mid-twenty percent. The military market is now expected to be a mid teens increase, and we expect our other end markets to be a high teens increase. As Jake mentioned, there are many evolving dynamics within our end markets. We recognize the rising degree of uncertainty in these markets individually and across the broader economic environment. While we are continuing to monitor developments closely with our OEM customers, our guidance currently does not reflect a potential recessionary environment later in the year or any commercial vehicle emissions rule changes that could impact demand later in the year. Speaker 300:20:25In anticipation of the potential for a recession or possible changes in the commercial vehicle regulations, we have created a playbook to navigate each of these scenarios. For each, we have plans to swiftly scale our operating activities in response to demand and tactically reduce our fixed costs to preserve our margins. With respect to tariffs, we expect minimal direct financial impact to MEC as our contracts and pricing mechanisms enable us to pass through increases in raw material costs to our customers. While these pass throughs are expected to be modestly margin dilutive, the impact is minimal and has been fully contemplated within our current guidance. Furthermore, embedded within our 2025 adjusted EBITDA guidance is $1,000,000 to $3,000,000 of cost improvement driven by our MBX operational excellence and strategic value based pricing initiatives net of inflationary pressures. Speaker 300:21:28As it relates to free cash flow guidance, we expect that our capital expenditures for the year will be in a range between $13,000,000 and $17,000,000 Based on our free cash flow guidance and excluding any M and A activity, we expect to be below one times net debt leverage by year end. With that, operator, that concludes our prepared remarks. Please open the line for questions as we begin our question and answer session. Operator00:22:02Thank you very much. Our first question comes from Ross Sparaneblack from William Blair. Speaker 400:22:30Hey. Maybe just to kick it off here, as we think about kind of the cadence of the end markets for the second half, can you maybe just kind of walk us through anything that stands out? It looks like maybe commercial vehicles had a slight ramp in the second half, whereas power sports ag may be more steady on the top line? Speaker 200:22:50Yes. That is correct, Ross. Our current guidance as we indicated earlier in March when we released our guidance includes a slight uptick in the CV market in the second half. That is related to potential 2027 regulation changes and pre buys in both 2025 and 2026. We also said, in March that, our first half is going to be approximately equal to the second half of last year, '20 '20 '4, and that we expect a modest increase, with potential pre buys and also potential, interest rate changes in the second half of twenty twenty five. Speaker 200:23:41Related to as it relates to powersports, that market continues to be highly interest rate dependent, and we don't expect any significant changes in demand forecast in powersports. And similarly, in agriculture, we do not expect any recovery in 2025 and expect the recovery to take some shape in 2026. Speaker 400:24:09Okay. Maybe just touching on tariffs and potential for reshoring. Are you seeing opportunities? And if so, if there are any end markets that stand out? Speaker 200:24:21We continue to have good discussions with both existing customers and new customers as it relates to tariffs. We have provided a number of customers with quotes and pricing on potential opportunities. Given the dynamic, nature of current tariff discussions and, our customers are being very conservative, and they are not in a position yet to make significant decisions because the tariffs sort of magically go away in three months. Right? You know, they don't wanna be stuck with a different price structure in their supply chain. Speaker 200:25:00So I think, you know, just like all of us, our customers are also watching day to day the developments. And, you know, if if there is a significant tariff impact, I think Mac is well positioned to capture those opportunities. As as we mentioned in our prepared remarks, we're a % domestic manufacturer. 92 plus percent of our inputs are US sourced. If you include some of the Canadian purchases of aluminum that we get, which we're actively sourcing back to The US, it's almost 95% to 96% of our inputs are domestically sourced. Speaker 200:25:42Given that, and our locations that are really favorable to our customers' operations, we're really well positioned to take advantage of any increased tariff regime we might see in the long run. Speaker 400:25:59Okay. So if we were just assuming that tariffs are structural, what the what is like the average onboarding timeline for a customer? Just maybe a sense that Speaker 200:26:09it could be 2025 Speaker 400:26:10or if it would be 2026. I Speaker 200:26:13think by let's say by middle of the year, we see some really structural tariff regimes in place. We could start up a program as quickly as three to four months. And depending on the size of the program, I could even be shorter than that. So there is a potential, if we see a static tariff regime by middle of the year, there is a potential for us, certainly late q three, early q '4, for us to see some incremental benefit and tailwind to MEG. Speaker 400:26:50Okay. Thank you for that. I'll jump back in queue. Speaker 200:26:54All right. Thanks, Ross. Operator00:26:58Our next question comes from Ted Jackson from Northland Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:27:06Thanks. First of all, on, just being able to control the things that you can control. You know, it's a good question. My my question is good morning. Sorry. Speaker 100:27:20I'm in an airport, so it's a little noisy in here. The the when you went through the, outlook for your different segments, I didn't catch quite everything. What did you say for agriculture, and what did you say for power sports? Speaker 200:27:32Yeah. Agriculture, we expect, ag market, at least our revenues to be down mid twenties. And powersports, we expect to be down somewhere between low single digits sorry, mid single digits to mid teens. Speaker 300:27:52I can hear you, sir. Speaker 100:27:55Okay. The the guide surprised me. I mean, you know, the the color coming out of anyone who has any exposure within the commercial vehicle marketplace is, I mean, it's just it's honestly terrible. And I mean, think that the tenor is that it's perhaps going to get worse before it gets better. And the ability for you to offset with things like military and others and pressure. Speaker 100:28:19So with that in mind, could you maybe provide a little more color about what's driving the improved outlook for both of those segments? Speaker 200:28:27Yes. So let me address CV market first, Ted. As we mentioned in our prepared remarks, we are qualifying our guidance maintenance on two factors, given that CV is almost 40 of our revenues. First one is recession. We're not building in any recession in the second half into our guidance. Speaker 200:28:53In fact, as we said, we're expecting a slight pickup in the second half revenues. That's number one. Number two is we're not building in any potential impact of potential cancellation of EPA regulation changes. So let me get into that a little bit more. The current guidance incorporates some level of pre buys in in second half of this year and also going into 2026. Speaker 200:29:23If for any reason, EPA decides to change, the new regulations that are set to come in in 2027. There are two effects to that regulation change. The first one is called what's called as the GHG, changes, level three, GHG number three changes. That really doesn't impact, any of our commercial vehicle customer volumes. That regulation only requires that industry Speaker 300:29:53forty eight forty five 49. Speaker 200:29:58Sorry. That GHG three regulations, phase three regulations imply that the industry has to produce more electrical, vehicles. So if that gets canceled, we don't expect our customers to see any significant volume impact. That means we won't see any significant volume impact. The second part of the 2027 regulation changes is what's called as NOx changes. Speaker 200:30:21Today, the current engines are allowed to produce up to 200 milligrams of NOx emissions, whereas the 2027 regulations require the engine makers and the CV OEMs to get down to about 35 milligrams of NOx emissions. That is currently set in law. So let me repeat that. That is currently set in law to go into effect in 2027. That is a significant lift for the administration to change that. Speaker 200:30:53It has to go and change the law and then suspend the 2027 regulation changes. If that happens, that is a material event for the industry. So I want to caution that, you know, it's a heavy lift to change that. But if it does happen, then it's a material change to the industry. That will affect the pre buys in 2025. Speaker 200:31:14That will affect, the pre buys in 2026. But if you take a long arc of a three year period, right, the volumes are just going to normalize. Volumes are not going to disappear. It's just they're going to normalize versus this peaks and valleys we normally see in the CV market. Right? Speaker 200:31:32So that is really where we are. So, as we sit here, we're maintaining our guidance, with those two caveats of no recession in the second half and no, 2027 knocks changes, from EPA. If we find that, you know, these changes are gonna happen in the coming months, we're happy to revisit our guidance, and we're happy to, inform all of you what the impact might be, on our 2025 and 2026 revenues. Speaker 300:32:04And I would just add, this goes back to your opening statement, Ted, control what we can control. And so that's where we have developed our playbook of the different scenarios. And so should any of these events take place, we have the playbook lined out so we can execute swiftly and control our margins manage our margins. Speaker 100:32:27And I was remiss in not welcoming you to the quarterly calls. I look forward to working with you. Speaker 300:32:35Thank you, Ted. Operator00:32:42Our next question comes from Andrew Kaplowitz from Citigroup. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:32:50Hi, good morning. This is Natalia Block on behalf of Andy Kaplowitz. Speaker 400:32:55Morning. How are you? Morning, Natalia. So Speaker 500:32:59I guess first question that I wanna ask is, like, based on your team's based on your commercial team's engagement, how would you characterize the tone of customer conversations today versus three to six months ago? Are customers in a more reactive wait and see mode, or are they still proactively exploring new projects? Speaker 200:33:16I would say that the customers in in certain end markets like ag and power sports, they are continuing to focus on destocking and continue to alter their production volumes to make sure that the channel inventories get cleared out. So in those end markets, the conversations have been slightly muted even though in our prepared remarks, talked about winning new business in construction, winning new business in power sports, etcetera. So we we are actively engaged with every one of our customers, but we also recognize that our OEMs have their own challenges that they're trying to deal with. And we're we're standing by them to support their activities, whether it's new product introductions, whether it is channel inventory reductions, or preparing for twenty twenty seven launches. As we said also in our remarks, we're on track to win approximately $100,000,000 of new business. Speaker 200:34:19In fact, as I sit here, April, we're ahead of our schedule in terms of winning new business, even in this environment. But mind you that, a a lot of those programs we're winning right now are either twenty twenty six starts or even twenty twenty seven twenty twenty seven starts. Right? So we're always focused on long term business development and long term growth for the company while, as Rochelle mentioned, trying to control what we can control in the short term. When it comes to commercial vehicle customers, we all follow ACT forecast. Speaker 200:34:58ACT forecasts have been more conservative than what our OEMs have indicated both publicly and what we see in our forecast from them. Right? So we're taking a cautious approach to the CV end market because we know that there are some unanswered questions, particularly around EPA regulations that we just talked about. So with all of that, we're continuing to work with our customers, continuing to look for opportunities to support them. And we're engaged with a couple of powersports customers where they're evaluating how much of their Asia made components they want to bring back to The US. Speaker 200:35:38Right? So, and we our teams have been extremely busy in answering, inquiries around, you know, reshoring and onshoring opportunities. So it's an exciting time for us because, yes, there seem to be some dark clouds on the horizon, but our team is highly engaged with our customers. We're trying to control our cost structure. And we're cautiously optimistic about some sort of settlement towards this tariff regime, whether structural or not. Speaker 200:36:11We'll have some clarity in the coming months. And we're still planning on, if our second half being slightly positive compared to our first half. Speaker 500:36:23Got it. That's helpful. And then just two follow-up questions to that. I guess, first question, as a follow-up, could you help us better understand, like, your revenue mix in terms of long term recurring programs for short cycle project based work? Like, how's that mix shifted over time, and does it influence your visibility into the second half of this year and in flash work 2026? Speaker 200:36:46So generally speaking, you know, depending on the size of the program, it might take us, you know, three months to start up a small program to eighteen months to start up a really large program. So given the mix that of new business we're winning, a significant portion of the new business we're winning right now is perhaps 26 or 27 startups. And the rule of thumb is if we don't have that business in our bag by middle of the year, that's generally a twenty twenty six start up. Right? So having said that, the tariff regime has opened up some opportunities for us. Speaker 200:37:28We're actively working them as we speak. That could, you know, be potential second half startups. We're encouraged by some of those activities. And, you know, as they materialize more, you know, we'll be happy to share more about them. And by the way, so some of those opportunities, as I said, are in powersports, some of them are in electrical infrastructure, some of them are related to data centers. Speaker 200:37:55So some of these non legacy end markets as well are coming to four where we're really excited to support these new customers. Speaker 300:38:05And those new opportunities are the place where we're able to put in our strategic value based pricing model. And so as we look to the long term in 2627, you'll see more of that in place as you look to our margins versus what you're seeing now because probably now only, you know, five to 10% of our programs are under that, and we'll have far more in '26 and '27. Speaker 500:38:28Okay. Got it. That's really helpful. And then last question for me. Just focusing on the agricultural end market, you know, ag being down mid twenties, this year that you are forecasting. Speaker 500:38:38How should we think about timing for recovery? Are you modeling 2026 as a bounce back here or expecting more of a gradual return? Speaker 200:38:47It's a it still continues to be a dynamic environment. Current tariff regime doesn't really help, as farmers are looking at, potential recovery in crop prices and exports, current high tariffs from countries like China do not really help US Farmers. Having said all of that, the latest Purdue University Ag survey, for the first time in a long time, indicated a positive uptick in farmer sentiment. That is something that, you know, really for us to watch as we go through 2025. Our initial assumption is that 2026 will be a gradual recovery for Ag. Speaker 200:39:32But given the changes in global trade policy and potentially some increased former sentiment, it is possible that we could see a bounce back, but that's not something that we are planning at this point, but we're closely watching it. Speaker 500:39:52Okay. Got it. That's super helpful. Thank you. Speaker 200:39:55Thank you. Operator00:40:03Our next question comes from Ross Sparaneblack from William Blair. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:40:11Hey, guys. Just a couple more here, if you don't mind. Thinking on the new business opportunities and the hundred million dollars target, can you just update us on the progress year to date and what the mix has been between new and existing customers? Speaker 200:40:26I think we're on by April, Ross, we're somewhere between 35 and 40 million of new business booked. That's a little bit ahead, you know, to do the linear math. Right? You know, it's a little bit ahead, know, timeline wise to our hundred million dollar target. Our sales teams are, you know, really active with existing customers. Speaker 200:40:50That is our first focus. And we're continuing to see a good set of wins in the CV market and also power sports. And we've mentioned as well construction and access market. So I would say that in all of these end markets, we're making good progress. What I call as forming versus hunting. Speaker 200:41:13Our team is excellent in forming. We're from the Midwest. Right? We know how to do that really well. But at the same time, you know, we have had a significant focus since, you know, last year to look at new opportunities and new customers and new end markets. Speaker 200:41:29So we're to engage with new customers in data center and electrical infrastructure and other end markets that are seeing secular growth. So those are the end markets we're excited about. We're having good conversations with them. I would say the $35,000,000 to $40,000,000 I just mentioned to you, a significant portion of that is existing customers with a sprinkling of new customers. But our pipeline is really strong and I'm fully confident that our teams will hit the $100,000,000 new business target this year. Speaker 200:42:07And I do expect, as we go into the second half, that we will see some new customers added to our list. Speaker 400:42:18Yes. No, that's great to hear. Maybe just kind of conceptualizing this growing program funnel. Do you think that there's gonna be some momentum here? I mean, is there a chance we could exit the year at, you $1.20, 1 60? Speaker 400:42:34Or was this just more of a, you know, seasonality to the the start of the year? Speaker 200:42:39It's hard to hard to tell. Look, you know, as you mentioned earlier, right, if if the tariffs are gonna be structural, right, that's a huge advantage for for Mac. So we will wait and see. Of course, right, like many of us, we want more US manufacturing. We want certain level of competitiveness for US companies. Speaker 200:43:00So given all of that, I'm optimistic that, you know, with this even some small structural changes, we will be able to gain ground and gain more business in the second half. Speaker 400:43:13Okay. Well, yeah, just understanding the potential for kind of a lower for longer scenario here in some of the core markets. I mean, would be to gauge your confidence level today around maybe achieving just the lower end of the 2026 revenue targets, you know, just thinking of kind of contribution of, you know, new business opportunities versus what would be required for the macro recovery? Speaker 200:43:35That's a great question. As we talked about in our last earnings call, our view has not changed about 2026. We still see a line of sight to low end of our 2026 range, revenue range. At the same time, right, unless the bottom falls off and there's a huge recession and a significant change to EPA regulation, those are the two caveats I'll continue to mention. If we don't see those two things, then yes, we still see a line of sight to low end of the range in 2026. Speaker 400:44:14Okay. But even with with, like, the, you know, push out of the regulations, I mean, that's maybe 50,000,000 of business. So, know, 700 is still kind of a win in this environment. Speaker 200:44:26Yeah. I I I would agree with you. At the same time, right, we also no one has asked us, so I'll just volunteer. Right? We continue to look for M and A opportunities. Speaker 200:44:35We continue to be active and given our balance sheet and given our free cash flow generation capabilities. And we'll see how the rest of the year materializes. There's a good possibility that we could enter some end markets that could provide additional growth for us through M and A as well. Speaker 400:45:00Yeah. That's actually a great segue here. Just, you know, thinking about kind of the pipeline for M and A, how are you guys prioritizing in market diversification versus maybe geographic reach or additional manufacturing capabilities? Is there a a top target for you right now? Speaker 200:45:15Yeah. Great question. I think, first and foremost for us, priority is diversification. Particularly given, you know, many of our end markets sort of went into the same down cycle this year that really, you know, opened our eyes to the need for further diversification of our end markets. So that's probably our number one. Speaker 200:45:40Not probably. That is our number one priority is diversification. Number two priority for us is accretive margin profile. And then I would say the third priority is being close to our customers with perhaps a a different geographic exposure within The US. We're not going also The US. Speaker 200:46:00We're still a US based company, a US based manufacturing company. So perhaps Southern states, all of that, as we mentioned in our M and A strategy slide that's on our website. That is still our focus. And we have enough number of targets in our pipeline that match those criteria. And we're really excited about what we can do here in the coming year. Speaker 400:46:28That's great to hear. Thanks again, guys. Congrats. Speaker 200:46:32Thanks, Ross. Thank you. Operator00:46:36We currently have no further questions. So I'd like to hand back to Jag Reddy for some closing remarks. Speaker 200:46:44Once again, thank you for joining our call. We appreciate your continued support of MEC, and we look forward to updating you on our progress next quarter. Should you have any questions, please contact Noel Ryan or Stephen Neely at Valem, our Investor Relations Counsel. This concludes our call today. You may now disconnect. Operator00:47:08Thank you very much for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by