Allegro MicroSystems Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Allegro Microsystems Fourth Quarter and Full Fiscal Year twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press 11 on your telephone. You will then wait for hear an automated message advising your hand is raised.

Operator

To withdraw your question, please press 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to Jeline Hoover, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications.

Jalene Hoover
Jalene Hoover
Vice President of IR & Corporate Communications at Allegro MicroSystems

Thank you, Brianna. Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to discuss Allegro's fiscal fourth quarter and full fiscal year twenty twenty five results. I'm joined today by Allegro's President and Chief Executive Officer, Mike Duke and Allegro's Chief Financial Officer, Derek D'Angelio. They will provide highlights of our business, review our quarterly and annual financial performance, and share our first quarter outlook. We will follow our prepared remarks with a Q and A session.

Jalene Hoover
Jalene Hoover
Vice President of IR & Corporate Communications at Allegro MicroSystems

Our earnings release and prepared remarks include certain non GAAP financial measures. The non GAAP financial measures that are discussed today are not intended to replace or be a substitute for GAAP financial results. A reconciliation of these non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release, which is available on the Investor Relations page of our website at www.allegromicro.com. This call is also being webcast and a replay will be available in the Events and Presentations section of our IR page shortly. During the course of this conference call, we will make projections and other forward looking statements regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company.

Jalene Hoover
Jalene Hoover
Vice President of IR & Corporate Communications at Allegro MicroSystems

We wish to caution that such statements are based on current expectations and assumptions as of today's date, and as a result are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to differ materially from projections. Important factors that can affect our business, including factors that could cause actual results to differ from our forward looking statements, are described in detail in our earnings release for the fourth quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five and in the most recent periodic and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Our estimates, expectations or other forward looking statements may change, and the company assumes no obligation to update forward looking statements to reflect actual results, changes to assumptions, other events that may occur, except as required by law. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Allegra's President and CEO, Mike Duke. Mike?

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Thank you very much, Jalene, and good morning, and thank you all for joining our fourth quarter and full fiscal year twenty twenty five conference call. And let me start by saying that it is truly an honor and a privilege to assume the role of President and CEO at Allegro. My journey started twenty seven years ago when I joined Allegro as a chip designer, working on cutting edge technologies, which we then turned into disruptive product lines. I then expanded my focus into business leadership, eventually running all three of our business units as SVP of Technology and Products. And in this role, I led the growth of company revenue and gross margin.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Following our IPO, I became Allegro's first ever Chief Technology Officer responsible for technology development, corporate strategy and M and A. Along the way, I also led our global operations teams, including oversight of our internal factory and quality teams, while also working closely with our OSAT and fab partners around the globe. Collectively, I believe the breadth and depth of my experience provides a rich opportunity to accelerate and implement product, innovation, and efficiency initiatives that will drive sales growth and gross margin improvements for Allegra. Recently, as you might imagine, I've been asked about my strategic priorities as CEO, and at the highest level, here is my response. I will work with our teams to accelerate new product development and unlock SAM expansion, to secure impactful design wins with leading customers and growth markets, and to leverage my innovation expertise to drive a meaningful impact on both top and bottom line growth.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

More specifically, relentless innovation that drives leadership in new and existing markets and applications will be a top priority. Innovation with purpose is central to everything we do at Allegro, and through innovation we will strengthen our competitive advantages and drive double digit sales growth in automotive and industrial end markets. During fiscal twenty twenty five, we demonstrated accelerated innovation by releasing 50% more products compared to our IPO year. And these innovative new ICs are truly important to our journey as they will positively impact gross margins and help fuel our multibillion dollar SAM expansion initiatives as we target a $12,000,000,000 market opportunity. It's also a priority to extend our leading magnetic sensing market position.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

With an estimated 30% CAGR through 02/1930, TMR magnetic sensors present a unique opportunity for continued share gains for Allegro, and we've recently demonstrated an ability to drive share gains through our ExtremeSense TMR technology. In fact, in Q4, we secured new TMR wins in the biomedical market and a new automotive win in an XEV thermal management application. We also released new ExtremeSense TMR current sensors in the quarter. These ICs deliver high precision current measurements and 4x noise reduction compared to competing hall solutions. For these and many more reasons, we are deeply excited about the future of TMR.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Moving on to power, we will also expand our leadership in select power applications. For example, we are introducing a new family of high voltage isolated gate driver ICs to the market. These gate drivers represent a nearly $3,000,000,000 SAM expansion opportunity for Allegro that can significantly augment our long term automotive and data center growth rates. In FY 2025, we launched initial drivers enabling GaN solutions and also began sampling our silicon carbide isolated gate drivers to market leading customers. And in Q4, we were pleased to secure our first automotive isolated gate driver win in an exciting new XEV charging program in China.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Now let's drill in on automotive. We have served the automotive market for more than thirty years, and in that time we've established a reputation for offering premium solutions, and we've demonstrated the right to win. We continue to accelerate our wins in the e mobility market, which offers a $5,000,000,000 SAM opportunity and an estimated 16% CAGR. And in Q4, we secured a new current sensor win in an XED inverter application in Europe, which represents an important share gain for Allegro. Audio mobility growth opportunity is supported by industry analysts continued expectations for double digit growth in XEV powertrain production, where our content is meaningfully greater compared to an ICE powertrain.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Our content is also meaningfully greater in emerging ADAS applications, where we see significant opportunity in steer by wire and electromechanical braking systems, and where Allegro's dollar content per system can exceed $20 In Q4, we were thrilled to secure multiple new design wins in high growth electro mechanical braking systems that represent a strong new growth vector for Allegro. Pivoting now to industrial priorities, we will capitalize on emerging opportunities in high growth sectors, including robotics, data center, clean energy, and medical markets. These markets offer an approximate $3,000,000,000 SAM opportunity and a 15% CAGR. Industrial customers, they value and recognize our differentiated automotive grade technologies. For example, there is an ever increasing need to efficiently manage server power demands.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

This need is driving a return to growth in our data center products. High growth AI data centers require more of our motor drivers, current sensors, and isolated gate drivers. And we are excited about our data center future, because AI servers have more than 2x the Allegro content opportunity relative to legacy servers. We continue to expand our TMR solutions into medical applications, and today are designed into leading blood glucose monitoring solutions with multiple customers. With a $300,000,000 SAM, we see additional opportunities to expand our participation in this market.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

As we look to the future, we have emerging business and excellent relationships with market leading companies in the robotics market. Where our precise motion control solutions and high resolution sensors offer space and control advantages in every joint throughout a robot. And as humanoid robots are adopted in factories or in homes, a new rapid growth SAM will emerge for Allegro. Experts estimate the size of this robotic SAM to exceed $10,000,000,000 between 02/1930 and 02/1935. And we are establishing our leading products and technologies within the SAM and doubling down on our focus in this market.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

And as a final priority as CEO, we will execute operational efficiency initiatives to enhance gross margins and profitability. One such initiative in the next twelve to eighteen months, we are excited to release a multitude of new products with optimized supply chain, test flow, bill of materials or design architectures that unlock significant manufacturing cost reductions. These ICs represent cost innovations, a different but important type of innovation that has the potential to drive a meaningful gross margin uplift for Allegro starting in the very near future. This is an exciting time with many growth opportunities ahead for Allegro, and while I don't expect to materially change the strategies which I helped develop as CTO, I believe that as Allegro's CEO, I can accelerate our strategies and unlock additional shareholder value. I will share more in the coming months and quarters, but we have a strong conviction in our near term financial targets and our long term model, which is based on double digit sales growth, 58% or greater gross margins, and more than 32% operating margins.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

We see a credible path to progressing towards these targets over the next few years. I'm thrilled to be backed by an outstanding team here at Allegro, and I'm confident in our collective ability to advance our mission while creating value for stakeholders. Turning now to fiscal fourth quarter results, we delivered strong execution overall with fourth quarter sales above the high end of our guidance at $193,000,000 and non GAAP EPS of $06 above the midpoint of our guidance. And it is worth noting that we do not have any indication that this upside revenue performance was due to any pull ins in response to tariffs. In addition, during the quarter, automotive sales returned to growth increasing 8% sequentially led by e mobility.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

In Q4, we saw particular strength in power solutions for ADAS applications, and we expect to continue to leverage our strong market position at applications including electric power steering, advanced braking systems, and XED powertrains, as well as 48 volt systems. In our industrial and other end markets, we saw growth in data center and robotics and automation revenue in the March and are encouraged by continued signs of increasing activity in industrial markets. Turning now to design wins, in the fourth quarter we achieved record level design wins, and with more than 70% of those wins and strategic focus areas which include e mobility, robotics and automation, data center, clean energy, and medical. I'm pleased to see the diverse nature of these wins, as this diversity highlights the resilience of our portfolio, while also positioning us well for growth. I'm truly excited to lead Allegro through this next chapter of growth as we build on a strong foundation, accelerate our strategic priorities, and deliver on both our near and long term financial targets.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

I'd like to thank Allegro's employees, partners, customers, and investors for their continued support. Before I hand the call over to Derek, I'd like to briefly comment on recent Onsemi dynamics to offer some further clarity on the situation. As you likely know, it became public knowledge during the quarter that we had received several proposals from Onsemi to potentially acquire Allegro. Our board takes its fiduciary duties very seriously, and naturally our board will consider any credible outreach to acquire Allegro that might be in the best interest of our stockholders. Accordingly, our board spent extensive time considering Onsemi's proposals.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

We laid out a path to Onsemi for further engagement, and Onsemi ultimately determined to withdraw its interest instead. I'll now turn the call over to Derek to review the Q4 and full fiscal year 2025 financial results and provide our outlook for the first quarter.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Thank you, Mike, and good morning everyone. I'd like to start with a brief comment about tariffs. It is obviously a rapidly evolving environment, and quantifying the potential impact of tariffs remains challenging. As of today, we believe there are currently immaterial direct impacts on Allegro. Our products are classified as semiconductors, and we ship all of our products from our back end facility in The Philippines.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

The indirect impact of tariffs are just harder to predict. So far, we have not seen any abnormal customer behavior, which could be associated with any tariffs. We will of course continue to monitor this situation closely and expect to have better clarity moving forward. Tariffs aside, we are encouraged by the positive forward looking indicators we are seeing across our business. I'll share a few data points that further reinforce our belief that we are entering the beginning of an up cycle.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

First, our customer inventories have continued to decline and our distributor inventory levels have actually declined 25%, exiting the fourth quarter compared to the beginning of FY twenty twenty five. Fourth quarter bookings were up another 20% sequentially and have now increased for the fifth consecutive quarter to the highest they've been in more than two years. Orders within lead time continue to increase. Backlog has resumed growth, and we are actually starting to see select component or raw material shortages. Now turning to a summary of our fourth quarter financial results.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Sales were 193,000,000 and non GAAP earnings per share were $06 Gross margin was 45.6%, operating margin was 9%, and adjusted EBITDA was 14.8% of sales. Total Q4 sales increased by 8% sequentially, but declined 20 year over year. Sales to automotive customers increased by 8% sequentially, led by e mobility sales, which increased 16% sequentially. Auto sales declined 23% year over year. Industrial and other sales increased by 9% sequentially and for the third consecutive quarter, led by continued growth in data center as well as in robotics and automation.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Industrial and other sales declined 11% year over year. Sales throughout distribution channel increased by 4% sequentially and represented 50% of Q4 sales. This combined with continued strong POS and normalizing inventory levels provides us additional evidence that we are coming off the bottom. From a product perspective, magnetic sensor sales increased by 3% sequentially to 61% of sales. Sales of our power products increased 19% sequentially, led by growth in motor drivers for ADAS and data center applications.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Sales by geography were again well balanced, with 27% of sales in China, Twenty Four Percent in the rest of Asia, 20 Percent in Japan, Sixteen Percent in The Americas and 13% of sales in Europe. Now turning to Q4 profitability. Gross margin was 45.6%, below our expectations due to a combination of mix and lower absorption as we fulfilled some orders from finished goods. Also, as we discussed on our last call, in our fourth quarter, we generally have customer price adjustments before our cost reductions cycle through inventory and into the P and L. We expect to begin to see this normalize in Q1 and into Q2.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Operating expenses were $70,000,000 up $2,000,000 or 3% sequentially due to annual payroll tax resets. Operating margin was 9% of sales compared to 10.8% in Q3 and twenty three point eight percent a year ago. Throughout fiscal 'twenty five, we took actions to optimize our cost structure, including rationalizing our global footprint, closing our Photonics business and moving functions to our shared services center in The Philippines. We also continue to implement operational efficiencies across the business to drive gross and operating margin improvements. Ongoing initiatives include advancing our China for China localization efforts, continued rationalization of our global manufacturing and support footprint, and executing on new manufacturing efficiency initiatives.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

In the fourth quarter, we initiated a restructuring program, which is expected to result in annualized cost savings of at least $15,000,000 beginning in FY twenty six. We expect half of these savings to drive a reduction in our cost of goods sold, and the other half will reduce OpEx. A portion of the savings is expected to fund strategic sales and R and D investments. In connection with this restructuring program, we incurred approximately $6,000,000 in restructuring charges in the fourth quarter. The effective tax rate for the quarter was 4%, resulting in a full year effective tax rate of 3%.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Our effective tax rate was lower than the statutory rate, primarily due to research and development credits. The fourth quarter diluted share count was 185,000,000 shares, and net income was $12,000,000 or $06 per diluted share. Now turning to a brief summary of full year 2025 results. Fiscal twenty twenty five sales was $725,000,000 a decline of 31% year over year, reflecting significant customer inventory reductions. Gross margin was 48%.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Operating margin was 9.5%, adjusted EBITDA was 15.6%, and earnings per share were zero two four dollars Sales to automotive customers declined by 28% year over year, and industrial and other sales declined 38% year over year. During fiscal 'twenty five, we also entered a new phase as a public company, with a repurchase of 39,000,000 shares from our largest shareholder, Sankin Electric. Recall this transaction reduced Sankin's ownership from 51% to 33%, increased our free float by 30%, while also reducing the total shares outstanding by 5%, and continued to improve our corporate governance. Moving to the balance sheet and cash flow. We ended Q4 with cash of $131,000,000 and debt of $345,000,000 Cash flow from operations was $20,000,000 CapEx was $5,000,000 and free cash flow was $15,000,000 From a working capital perspective, DSO was 40 days compared to forty three days in Q3, and inventory days were one hundred and forty eight days compared to one hundred and eighty two days a quarter ago.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Inventory dollars declined by $9,000,000 sequentially, largely due to reductions in finished goods and wafer inventories. During Q4, we also made another voluntary debt payment of $30,000,000 and repriced our term loan down a further 25 basis points. Finally, during fiscal 'twenty five, we made a total of $105,000,000 of voluntary debt payments. I'll now turn to our Q1 twenty twenty six outlook. The following guidance range contemplates minimal direct impact of tariffs in Q1.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

We expect first quarter sales to be in the range of $192,000,000 to $2.00 $2,000,000 The midpoint of this range equates to an 18% year over year increase and would be the first year over year increase since the third quarter of fiscal 'twenty four. Additionally, we expect the following all on a non GAAP basis. We expect gross margin to be between 4648%, an increase of 140 basis points at the midpoint, which factors in anticipated cost reductions described earlier, as well as vendor pricing negotiated in Q4 that begins to impact the P and L in Q1. OpEx is expected to be approximately $72,000,000 an increase of $2,000,000 or three percent sequentially due to planned annual salary increases and the reset of variable compensation plans with the start of our new fiscal year. We expect interest expense to be approximately $5,000,000 inclusive of a $25,000,000 voluntary debt payment made on April 30.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

We expect our tax rate to be 8%, and our weighted average diluted share count to be 186,000,000 shares. As a result, we expect non GAAP EPS to be between $06 and $0.10 per share. At the midpoint, this equates to 1.7x improvement year over year on a sales increase of 18%, demonstrating the potential operating leverage in the business model. Now I'll turn the call back over to Jolene for questions.

Jalene Hoover
Jalene Hoover
Vice President of IR & Corporate Communications at Allegro MicroSystems

Thank you, Derek. This concludes management's prepared remarks. Before we open the call for your questions, I'd like to share our first fiscal quarter conference lineup with you. We will attend TD Cowen's fifty third Annual TMT Conference on May 29 at the Intercontinental New York Parkway, and Mizuho's twenty twenty five Technology Conference on June 10 at Conrad, New York Downtown. Looking further into the year, we are targeting hosting an Analyst Day event following our 2025, October '20 '20 '5 fifth year anniversary as a public company, and we'll provide more details as we get closer to the event.

Jalene Hoover
Jalene Hoover
Vice President of IR & Corporate Communications at Allegro MicroSystems

We will now open the call for your questions. As a reminder, what the primary purpose of today's call to discuss our fourth quarter and full fiscal year 2025 results and fiscal Q1 outlook, we appreciate you keeping your questions focused on these topics. Brianna, please review your Q and A instructions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press 11 again.

Operator

Your line is now open.

Timothy Arcuri
Timothy Arcuri
Managing Director at UBS Group

Thanks a lot. You did talk about your China for China strategy. I know you're working with SMIC. I think you're taping out new products in that fab. Can you talk about that?

Timothy Arcuri
Timothy Arcuri
Managing Director at UBS Group

I think you're supposed to get some chips from them by the end of last year. So can you just update us on that and sort of how that's going to progress and what the key milestones there are?

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Sure, thanks Timothy. We've been hard at work on our China for China supply chain initiative for a number of years now. It's a multi faceted strategy with both wafer fab and back end partners, all of which would be within the borders of China, which would largely meet the needs of our growth customers in China. We've made significant progress on the wafer technology perspective, qualifying various products along the way. Additionally, we have a robust portfolio of products in China.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

We have various package types that we need to stand up in China. Those activities are going well, along with the activities testing products in China. So, across the board, we're feeling good about where we stand. As we progress through the year, we expect to have first revenues, meaningful revenues shipping out of the China for China supply chain later in the year.

Timothy Arcuri
Timothy Arcuri
Managing Director at UBS Group

Got it. Thanks for that. And then Derek, just on the gross margin, it's a little less than what I had anyway. Can you talk about I know that there's these pricing issues and you had to negotiate price down and then costs take a while to catch up with that. Can you is that still sort of weighing on March?

Timothy Arcuri
Timothy Arcuri
Managing Director at UBS Group

And when do you see the costs catching up to the price decline? And sort of how maybe like how to think about gross margin? I'm not asking you to guide for

Timothy Arcuri
Timothy Arcuri
Managing Director at UBS Group

the following quarter,

Timothy Arcuri
Timothy Arcuri
Managing Director at UBS Group

but sort of what are some of the puts and takes?

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Tim,

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

that's exactly right. So contemplated in our fourth quarter guidance here when we guided to about a 47% midpoint, in that was the pricing negotiations that usually take place in the first calendar quarter of the year. We also negotiate lower costs with our vendors, but it takes about two quarters of the case in inventory to cycle into the P and L. And that dynamic happened the same a few years ago. If you went back and looked at our 2022 and twenty twenty three years, we had the same dynamic on the upside where we had an artificially higher gross margin in the first calendar quarter of the year.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Coupled with that, we've brought our production levels down pretty low in Q4, and we're able to reduce finished goods by more than 10%. So that's a good thing. So we're fulfilling orders from finished goods. As we go into Q1, we expect mix to start to normalize a little bit better. We do expect to continue to maintain our production levels at Q4 levels and continue to bring down finished goods.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

But we expect to start to see the benefit of those cost reductions we've negotiated start to impact the P and L in Q4 in addition to the restructuring program benefits in Q1. Beyond that, looking longer term, that 60% to 65% variable contribution margin that I've talked about, that still holds pretty well. It could actually be higher than that in the near term as we get these cost reduction benefits.

Timothy Arcuri
Timothy Arcuri
Managing Director at UBS Group

Okay, Jerry, thank you.

Operator

Thank you. In the interest of time, we will allow one question and one follow-up per participant. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Joe Quatrochi of Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Joe Quatrochi
Joe Quatrochi
Director & Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo

Yeah, thanks for taking the question. I was curious, you're talking about seeing some pretty good growth in your backlog or return to growth in backlog and starting to see that pull from customers. Can you talk about just the specific areas and how we think about that relative to the increased design wins and opportunities there versus just kind of seeing an improvement in the cycle?

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Yes, so thanks, Joe. I'll start with a little more commentary on the design wins. Yet again, we continue to see more than 70% of those design wins, exactly where we want to see them in e mobility and focus industrials. And when you think about how the backlog will then start to trend, as you rack up wins, as the bookings come in strong, as Derek mentioned, they've been coming in strong, you obviously get the commensurate uplift in backlog. And it's where you'd expect to see it.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

We're seeing good gains in the e mobility side of the business and particular strength in data center on the industrial side of the business.

Joe Quatrochi
Joe Quatrochi
Director & Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo

That's helpful. And then as a follow-up, on the tariffs, I think some of the tariffs are based on the location of where the wafer origin is. So can you remind us how to think about what's coming from The U. S. And going into China, given that the relationship is still kind of ramping?

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Yeah, Joe, this is Derek. So right now, we ship all of our products from our back end facility in The Philippines, and approximately 15% of our sales are shipped to U. S, which currently those are exempted right now as semiconductors. And from a wafer perspective, about a little bit more than half of our wafers come from UMC in Taiwan, about 10% to 15% from TSMC in Taiwan, the remainder come about 35 from The U. S.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

From polar semiconductor, and so far those have not been subject to tariffs. So we have the ability to move wafers between fabs to satisfy different geographies.

Joe Quatrochi
Joe Quatrochi
Director & Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Gary Mobley of Loop Capital. Your line is now open.

Gary Mobley
Managing Director & Senior Equity Analyst at Loop Capital

Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. I want to ask about inventory in the channel, in particular, in the distribution channel. Did I hear correctly that point of sale was greater than point of purchase in the fourth quarter? And does your first quarter revenue outlook contemplate continuation of undershipping into the distribution channel?

Gary Mobley
Managing Director & Senior Equity Analyst at Loop Capital

And then maybe you can also comment on where your inventories direct to customers sit.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Yes, I'll start with the distribution channel, Gary. So as I mentioned, exiting our Q4, our distribution channel inventories globally were down 25% year over year, which obviously is a good sign. It does vary a bit by region, as I talked about it on our last call. So we think we're in really good shape in most parts of Asia from an inventory declining standpoint. There's still some work to be done in Europe, still a little bit of work to be done in The United States, I think.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

So on the distribution side, our guidance for Q1 contemplates that. On the direct side, we continue to see the same dynamics. I think inventory has come down across the board a lot more in Q4 as we saw in our December in The U. S. As sales were down 25% in The U.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

S. That rebounded nicely in Q4, up 23%. And we're seeing a lot of in quarter orders, particularly in The United States and for auto. So that's also a good sign. So we think we're in pretty good shape in most regions.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

I think there's some work to be done in Europe.

Gary Mobley
Managing Director & Senior Equity Analyst at Loop Capital

Okay. My follow-up, want to circle back onto gross margin. We've already talked about a lot of the different variables to the improvement but do you think given the Acxiom and the contribution variable contribution margin that assuming revenue continues to improve on a sequential basis do you think a 50% gross margin is possible as we move through the balance of fiscal year 'twenty six?

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Yes, certainly the way we look at it, right, our long term target is 58%, but internally we've broken that down into time fences and the immediate term goal was to get back to 50%. The guidance for Q1 is 47%, Gary, at the midpoint. And as I mentioned, the variable contribution margin on that, you could take revenue at 65%, that holds pretty true. I expect that 65% could be even better here in the next couple of quarters, given those cost reductions, both from the restructuring program, the ongoing initiatives, and the vendor negotiated pricing that will start to cycle into the P and L could be higher than that 65%. So it is plausible that it will be in the short term, that 50%.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Chris Caso of Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.

Chris Caso
Managing Director at Wolfe Research LLC

Yes, thank you, good morning. Mike, guess first one for you. I know you've been with the company for a while, but kind of as you enter the seat here with CEO, just interested any kind of strategic changes or kind of different direction, anything you might do differently that now that you've taken the seat. And obviously, you've been with the company a long time, so whatever strategy has been in place, I'm sure you've had a hand on it. But just any kind of thoughts about the things that might be different going forward?

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Sure, thanks Chris. And I'll summarize some of what I said in the prepared remarks, saying that it's really a priority for me to lean in a bit more on innovation, and what I mean by that, within the same R and D spending envelope, I think we can reprioritize where we spend our money to make sure our products become even more differentiated and we stay two steps ahead of the competition. I was part of the acquisition of the TMR technology through Crocus, the high voltage isolated gate driver business through HayDay. They're actually experiencing and demonstrating strong traction with customers. My priority is to accelerate the ramp of some of these exciting new areas.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

We're truly differentiated in those spaces, and they do represent new areas of high growth SAM expansion. And then when I look at things we can do from an operational efficiency perspective, there's a lot we can do on the tried and true innovation side of the house, but on this cost innovation side of things that I mentioned, there's some low hanging fruit, I'll just give one example, converting from gold wire to copper wire that will drive margin benefits both in the short, medium, and long term gains. And I'm a hawk for things like that, I get excited about driving those changes, so we're going to accelerate some of those initiatives as well. So that just gives you a bit of a feel, scratches the surface on some of the priorities and differences.

Chris Caso
Managing Director at Wolfe Research LLC

Got it. And I guess as a follow-up, and I'll ask this because I know you're going to get asked and we're certainly asked quite a bit from investors. But if you could revisit the Arno offer and kind of what the thought process was around that, is it safe to say that simply the offer wasn't high enough value for what you thought the company was worth. And you said in your opening remarks, the board and you folks are open to things, but maybe just kind of now that it appears to be over, just kind of some hindsight of what your thinking was with regard to that.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Yeah, we've said to the largest extent what we're gonna say today, and maybe what I'll just reiterate is that we really believe in our future. We have a strong growth potential ahead of us both on the top line and on the gross margin line. As I said in the prepared remarks, the board was very mindful of their fiduciary duties, and we did lay out a clear and constructive path to engage with the other side, we opened doors for a greater value, and ultimately on semi decline to pursue that path, and that's really where it ends.

Chris Caso
Managing Director at Wolfe Research LLC

Got it, thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Joshua Buchalter of TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Joshua Buchalter
Director - Equity Research at TD Cowen

Hey guys, thanks for taking my question and Mike congratulations on the CEO role. In your prepared remarks and in response to some earlier questions, you mentioned leaning in on new products, in particular TMR, Hay Day and high precision power and sensing parts on both sides of your house. It sounds like inventory is pretty much is close to cleaned up. Like are we at the point where you think those new products are hitting the model yet and you can hit that growth profile you laid out at your last analyst that you have I think 7% to 10% above SAAR and 5% to 10% above GDP in industrial? Thank you.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Yeah, thanks for the kind words to start, Josh. To start where you finished, we are confident in our ability on an automotive perspective to achieve SAR plus seven to 10%, and we remain confident in our ability to overdrive growth relative to the broad industrial market by five to 10%. A lot of it comes down to the SAM or the target markets we participate in. It's a $12,000,000,000 SAM, 8,000,000,000 is auto, but within that $8,000,000,000 the $5,000,000,000 e mobility SAM, it's growing with a growth rate of 16%. Within that XEV powertrain growth rates approach 20%.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

If we switch over to the industrial side of the house, our focus markets, that's a $3,000,000,000 SAM growing at a 15% CAGR. But you look at data center, you look at robotics, these are not futuristic applications or technologies, they're obviously here today, we're participating well, and they have a 20% growth CAGR. And when you look at TMR and the isolated gate driver products, they just layer on more positivity on the story. So we remain committed and we remain confident in our ability to grow above market.

Joshua Buchalter
Director - Equity Research at TD Cowen

Okay, thank you. And Derek, I appreciate the color you gave on the restructuring, think it was $15,000,000 split between COGS and OpEx. Is that sort of immediate from where you just guided the June and we should expect OpEx to be flat to down through the year? How should we be thinking about that layering in? Thank you.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Yes, Josh. Good morning. So as I mentioned, that $15,000,000 we start to that's on an annualized basis. We'll start to see the benefit of that in Q1. And so as I guided OpEx for Q1, I expect that to be up about $2,000,000 or 3%.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

That's really a result of the annual salary increases and the reset of our variable compensation. Offsetting that is the beginning of these benefits from this restructuring program, which is really a repositioning. We opened a shared services center in The Philippines about a year and a half ago now, and it's working out really, really well. And 70% of our customers are in Asia and the majority of our vendors. So we've moved some of the footprint there and it also has a cost benefit.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

So we expect to continue to see those cost benefits throughout FY '20 '20 '6 and into FY 2027. But you could expect OpEx won't grow significantly in FY '20 '20 '6, low single digits.

Joshua Buchalter
Director - Equity Research at TD Cowen

Got it. Thank you.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Vijay Rakesh of Mizuho. Your line is now open.

Vijay Rakesh
Vijay Rakesh
Managing Director at Mizuho Financial Group

Yeah, hey Mike and Derek, just a quick housekeeping one. What does the eMobility mix for the quarter, I guess? And a follow-up.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Mobility mix of auto was about 50% of auto in the quarter, Vijay.

Vijay Rakesh
Vijay Rakesh
Managing Director at Mizuho Financial Group

Got it. And then I think as you look at China for China, given all the different mutations, are you seeing more increased competition in China from the domestic suppliers or are you seeing them in source more? What are you seeing in terms of those trends? And especially you have a good position there with BYD and others, but BYD is also a big insourcer, I guess. But any color there?

Vijay Rakesh
Vijay Rakesh
Managing Director at Mizuho Financial Group

Thanks.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Sure, Vijay, this is Mike. So, to China, clearly a competitive market. Let me just start by saying we still continue to see very positive signs relative to growth in China. There's just myriad design wins and customer momentum I can talk about, even within this quarter off the top of my head, two large inverter design wins for our sensors in the XEV market. We have ADAS wins in China across sensing and power.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

I talked about an isolated gate driver win in China automotive. So we're still seeing good traction and momentum in China. Customers are having a very strong positive response to our China for China initiatives. That all being said, of course, there are local competitors in China, they're formidable in a sense, they're relentless, but what we're seeing with our premium products, with our temperature rugged, high automotive grade products, we are still differentiating ourselves both on actual performance of the IC itself, but also the quality levels we can achieve with our ICs. I met with the CEO of one of our leading China customers in the last few months, and he confirmed that despite plenty of approaches from local China market customers, he's staying with Allegro for the duration of the next cycle where we see strong business growth with that customer.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

That's just an N of one, but we see that same trend across a broader swath of customers as well.

Vijay Rakesh
Vijay Rakesh
Managing Director at Mizuho Financial Group

Got it. Thanks, Mike.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Quinn Bolton of Needham and Company. Your line is now open.

Quinn Bolton
Senior Analyst at Needham & Company

Hey, guys. Just wanted to ask, obviously, margin has been under pressure, you've kind of gone through some of the factors there. I guess I'm just kind of wondering if pricing is continuing to be aggressive. Know, the you haven't seen that 65% sort of fall through over the last two, three quarters as revenue has increased by about $30,000,000 You know, and so I'm just trying to reconcile why gross margin remains under such pressure as revenue has recovered over the past three quarters.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Thanks, Quinn. I can talk a bit about pricing. So, as you're aware, I think as we stated in last quarter's call as well, in the automotive market, there's a general expectation in low single digit price reductions on a year over year basis. These are negotiated when you win large awards in automotive.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

And we didn't see anything abnormal as we entered 2025, single digit reductions are what we're seeing in automotive this year. In the channel, a little over a year ago, we talked about how channel pricing softened. It appears that that pricing has stabilized as well. But no, we're not seeing any abnormal pricing as we enter calendar year 2025 and our fiscal year.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

The dynamic on the gross margin side is, as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, the last two quarters we've been able to bring down finished goods, and we expect to continue to do that in Q1. So while sales are up, production levels aren't necessarily up. So we have a little bit more under absorption.

Quinn Bolton
Senior Analyst at Needham & Company

Got it. And then I guess there's been some concern by investors that with all of the auto tariff uncertainty and the potential for higher costs that auto guys may be coming back at a faster than annual cadence asking for additional price declines sort of outside of that normal annual cadence. Have you guys seen any evidence of auto customers coming back asking for further price declines, or do you sort of see a normal annual cadence in those negotiations? Thanks so much.

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

We see a normal annual cadence. We see nothing in terms in response to tariffs relative to requests for further price reductions.

Quinn Bolton
Senior Analyst at Needham & Company

Perfect. Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Joseph Moore of Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Joseph Moore
Joseph Moore
Managing Director at Morgan Stanley

Great. Thank you. You mentioned in your prepared remarks that you're seeing some early signs of potential shortages. Can you elaborate on that? What are the signs and what any particular products or markets?

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

Yes, Joe, good morning. This is Derek. We're seeing potential signs of shortages for us in longer lead raw materials, in particular where we see data center products for us coming back pretty fast and in quarter lead times increasing or in quarter orders increasing, many of our peers are seeing the same things, there starts to be a crunch on raw materials. We're of course managing that. We did do a pretty good job of building strategic wafer and die bank.

Derek D'Antilio
Derek D'Antilio
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at Allegro MicroSystems

We've done that with some finished goods as well. And I think that's helping us now as we're starting to see the channel return in quarter orders return pretty fast.

Joseph Moore
Joseph Moore
Managing Director at Morgan Stanley

Okay. Thank you. And then with regards to automotive and the potential pull ins, I mean, you've answered to this, but I guess just if you could characterize what those conversations are like, because I can't imagine running a business when the tariffs are kind of on again, off again in Canada and Mexico and then globally and then you don't know where they're going to be and now they're temporarily suspended and stuff's going to get more expensive in a few weeks and that all comes after over a year of inventory reduction. Like, aren't inventories just too lean to deal with all this, and shouldn't there be some indication that those inventories are going to have to start to come up?

Michael Doogue
Michael Doogue
President & CEO at Allegro MicroSystems

Yeah, I'll take that one, Joe. This is Mike. So, we've talked at length about increased bookings. So one thing we've done, we have close relationships with our customers, and what we've been doing when we see upside potential coming from customers, we've been having direct conversations to understand what's driving the upside, and we have not seen any material evidence that upside demand is coming from tariff situations. I know that's an awfully simple answer, but it happens to be a true one.

Joseph Moore
Joseph Moore
Managing Director at Morgan Stanley

Yeah, I appreciate that. Thank you much.

Operator

At this time, I am showing no further questions in the queue. I would now like to hand it back to Jolene for closing remarks.

Jalene Hoover
Jalene Hoover
Vice President of IR & Corporate Communications at Allegro MicroSystems

Thank you, Brianna. We appreciate you taking the time to join us. This concludes this morning's conference call.

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.

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Key Takeaways

  • In Q4 Allegro delivered revenue of $193 M and non-GAAP EPS of $0.06, beating guidance, with automotive sales up 8% and industrial sales up 9% sequentially.
  • For Q1 FY26 management expects sales of $192 M–$200 M (18% year-over-year growth at midpoint), gross margin of 46–48% and non-GAAP EPS of $0.06–$0.10 per share.
  • Allegro achieved a record level of design wins in Q4—over 70% in e-mobility, robotics, data center, clean energy and medical—and saw bookings rise 20% sequentially while distributor inventories fell 25%, signaling an up-cycle.
  • New CEO Mike Duke outlined priorities to accelerate innovation—notably in TMR magnetic sensors (30% CAGR) and high-voltage isolated gate drivers ($3 B SAM)—and to drive operational efficiencies and cost innovations for double-digit growth and gross margins above 58%.
  • Full-year FY25 results included $725 M in revenue (down 31% YoY), a 48% gross margin, 9.5% operating margin and a share repurchase of 39 M shares, reducing the largest shareholder’s stake from 51% to 33%.
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