NYSE:KRP Kimbell Royalty Partners Q1 2025 Earnings Report $13.19 +0.11 (+0.84%) Closing price 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$13.19 0.00 (0.00%) As of 05:56 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Kimbell Royalty Partners EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.20Consensus EPS $0.15Beat/MissBeat by +$0.05One Year Ago EPS$0.04Kimbell Royalty Partners Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$84.21 millionExpected Revenue$84.05 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$161.00 thousandYoY Revenue Growth+2.90%Kimbell Royalty Partners Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/8/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, May 8, 2025Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsKimbell Royalty Partners' Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, August 7, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Kimbell Royalty Partners Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 8, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Greetings, and welcome to the Kimball Royalty Partners First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. And as a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce to you Rick Black with Investor Relations. Operator00:00:27Thank you, Rick. You may begin. Rick BlackEVP at Dennard Lascar Investor Relations00:00:31Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Kimbell Royalty Partners conference call to review financial and operational results for the first quarter of twenty twenty five, which ended on 03/31/2025. This call is also being webcast and can be accessed through the audio link on the Events and Presentations page of the IR section of kimbellrp.com. Information recorded on this call speaks only as of today, which is 05/08/2025. So please be advised that any time sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the date of any replay listening or transcript reading. Rick BlackEVP at Dennard Lascar Investor Relations00:01:06I would also like to remind you that the statements made in today's discussion that are not historical facts, including statements of expectations or future events or future financial performance, those are considered forward looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. We will be making forward looking statements as part of today's call, which by their nature are uncertain and outside of the company's control. Actual results may differ materially. Please refer to today's earnings release for our disclosures on forward looking statements. These factors as well as other risks and uncertainties are described in detail in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Rick BlackEVP at Dennard Lascar Investor Relations00:01:47Management will also refer to non GAAP measures, including adjusted EBITDA and cash available for distribution. Reconciliations to the nearest GAAP measures can be found at the end of today's earnings release. Kimball assumes no obligation to publicly update or revise any of these forward looking statements. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Bob Raviness, Kimball Realty Partners' Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Bob? Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:02:13Thank you, Rick, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us on the call this morning. With me today are several members of our senior management team including Davis Radness, our President and Chief Financial Officer Matt Daly, our Chief Operating Officer and Blaine Rinesberger, our Controller. We are pleased to start the year by reporting a record first quarter, which achieved several milestones across key metrics including record oil, natural gas and NGL revenues, record consolidated adjusted EBITDA and record cash available for distribution. Other twenty twenty five milestones so far also include completing a highly attractive and accretive acquisition in the core of the Permian Basin on 01/17/2025, increasing the company's borrowing base and elected commitments on our credit facility from $550,000,000 to $625,000,000 on 05/01/2025 and redeeming 50% of the Series A cumulative convertible preferred units on 05/07/2025 further simplifying our capital structure and reducing our cost of capital. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:03:27Even with the uncertainty occurring across the broader geopolitical landscape, activity on our acreage remains robust with 90 rigs actively drilling on our acreage at quarter end representing 16% market share of all rigs drilling in the Lower 48, which is unchanged from Q4 twenty twenty four. Permitting also remained strong. In fact, one notable example this quarter was from one of our oldest properties that we acquired in 02/2006 from an East Coast College endowment. This royalty asset which we have owned for nearly twenty years and has generated profits that are multiple times its original investment recently permitted 17 additional wells in Martin County, Texas with NRIs above 2%. This shows not only the strength of our diversified portfolio of assets, but also the benefit of the perpetual nature of minerals that can often provide surprisingly upside decades beyond the original investment at no cost to us. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:04:31Line of sight wells continue to be above the number of wells needed to maintain flat production, giving us confidence in the resilience of our production for 2025. Our superior five year annual average PDP decline rate of 14% including the acquired production requires only an estimated 6.5 net wells annually to maintain flat production. Today, we are pleased to declare our first quarter distribution of $0.47 per common unit, an increase of 17.5% from the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four and reflecting an approximate 16% annualized tax advantage yield. We estimate that approximately 70% of this distribution is expected to be considered return of capital and not subject to dividend taxes further enhancing the after tax return to our common unitholders. Turning to the remainder of the year, despite the current volatility and uncertainty in the broader economy and its impact on commodity prices, we remain confident in achieving our goals for 2025. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:05:40As a pure play mineral company with ownership of a diversified portfolio of high margin shallow decline assets with zero capital requirements needed to support resilient free cash flow, we remain bullish about The U. S. Oil and natural gas royalty industry and our role as a leading consolidator in the sector. We are encouraged by the opportunities we see in 2025 and beyond to continue to grow and expand our industry leading portfolio of assets to generate long term unitholder value. I'll now turn the call over to Davis. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:06:17Thanks, Bob, and good morning, everyone. As Bob mentioned, this is another strong quarter for Kimball. We generated several new quarterly records for oil, natural gas and NGL revenues, consolidated adjusted EBITDA and cash available for distribution. We also increased our borrowing base and elected commitment and redeemed 50% of the Series A convertible preferred units, which I'll discuss in more detail in a moment. I'll now start by reviewing our financial results for the first quarter. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:06:52Oil, natural gas and NGL revenues totaled $90,000,000 during the quarter, which includes seventy four days of contribution from the acquired production and is a new record for Kimmel. Including a full Q1 twenty twenty five impact of the acquired production, first quarter run rate production was 25,841 BOE per day. In addition, we exited the quarter with 90 rigs actively drilling on our acreage, which represents approximately 16% market share of all land rigs drilling in The Continental United States and is flat from Q4 twenty twenty four. On the expense side, first quarter general and administrative expenses were $9,600,000 5 point 8 million dollars of which was cash G and A expense or $2.52 per BOE. Total first quarter consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $75,500,000 which includes seventy four days of contribution from the acquired production and is also a new record for Kimmel. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:08:05You will find a reconciliation of both consolidated adjusted EBITDA and cash available for distribution at the end of our news release. As Bob mentioned, today we announced a cash distribution of $0.47 per common unit for the first quarter. We estimate that approximately 70% of this distribution is expected to be considered return of capital and not subject to dividend taxes, further enhancing the after tax return to our common unitholders. This represents a cash distribution payment to common unitholders that equates to 75% of cash available for distribution and the remaining 25% will be used to pay down a portion of the outstanding borrowings under Kimball's secured revolving credit facility. Moving now to our balance sheet and liquidity. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:09:01At 03/31/2025, we had approximately $299,000,000 in debt outstanding under our secured revolving credit facility, which represented a net debt to trailing twelve month consolidated adjusted EBITDA of approximately 0.9 times. We also had approximately $251,000,000 in undrawn capacity under the secured revolving credit facility as of 03/31/2025. Subsequent to quarter end, on 05/01/2025, the borrowing base and aggregate commitments on our secured revolving credit facility were increased from $550,000,000 to $625,000,000 in connection with our spring redetermination. In addition, on 05/07/2025, we redeemed 50% of the Series A cumulative convertible preferred units outstanding. This further simplifies our capital structure and reduces our cost of capital. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:10:05After giving effect to this redemption, along with the expected pay down from the remaining 25% of Q1 twenty twenty five projected cash available for distribution, Kimball expects to have approximately 462,100,000 in debt outstanding under its secured credit facility and have net debt to first quarter twenty twenty five trailing twelve month consolidated adjusted EBITDA of approximately 1.5 times. We continue to maintain a conservative balance sheet and remain very comfortable with our strong financial position, the support of our expanding bank syndicate and our financial flexibility. Today, we are also affirming our financial and operational guidance ranges for 2025. As a reminder, our full 2025 guidance outlook was included in the Q4 twenty twenty four earnings release. We remain confident about the prospects for continued robust development as we progress through 2025, given the number of rigs actively drilling on our acreage, especially in the Permian, as well as our line of sight wells materially exceeding our maintenance well count. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:11:23Lastly, as evidenced by our track record of ongoing acquisition activity, we expect to continue our role as a major consolidator in the highly fragmented U. S. Oil and natural gas royalty sector, which we estimate to be over $700,000,000,000 in size. And as we have stated in the past, there are only a handful of public entities in The United States and Canada that have the financial resources, infrastructure, network and technical expertise to complete large scale multi basin acquisitions. We continue to believe that the overall demand for energy, our well established and diversified asset portfolio and the attractive opportunities to further expand and add scale within our basins will continue to enhance value for our unitholders in the years to come. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:12:15With that, operator, we are now ready for questions. Operator00:12:19Thank you, sir. We will now be conducting a question and answer And the first question comes from the line of Tim Rezvan with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:12:55Good morning, folks. Thank you for taking our questions. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:12:58Good morning, Tim. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:12:59I Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:13:00want to start your last comments about continuing as a major consolidator. No surprise there. But I was wondering if you could kind of talk about your interest in M and A today. Everything we're hearing on the oil side is that things are kind of on a pause right now. The mineral space has been a lot of new capital being deployed, especially on the gas side. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:13:25So can you talk about kind of your interest today and maybe how your equity currency is not really what it was a few months ago as shares have pulled back across the industry. So kind of your interest in how maybe where your shares are trading today would factor into that. Thanks. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:13:42Great question, Tim. Always looking at M and A opportunities just to say right out of the gates. Your comments notwithstanding, which I totally agree with, we've had a hard time transacting on natural gas deals over the last couple of years. Just seems like we've gotten blown out of the water. I don't know if people are baking in higher price decks in the future strip or what exactly is happening there, but that's been challenging on the natural gas side. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:14:09I'd say that if M and A activity for us, it's a high bar, to state the obvious. We would be interested in doing deals where and we have a long history of doing this, where we could use our equity accretively to buy assets that would delever the business and just accelerate not only the scale of the company but also the deleveraging process. So if you look back historically, we've done that quite well and have been fortunate to have a lot of success in doing that in the past. And I would expect us to I'd be surprised if we weren't able to execute on some sort of M and A on that front, let's call it, over the next six to eighteen months, which I think would be to everybody's benefit. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:14:55Okay. Okay. So I guess we'll stay tuned on that front. And then I appreciate the comments on leverage. It seems pretty clear that the residual free cash flow will work that debt balance down. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:15:08Do you have a target number you're looking to? Or is the plan just steady state, pay that down to give you more dry powder for the next deal? How are thinking about the Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:15:20So one advantage of the pref that we have that I think is lost on a lot of people is that for covenant purposes, it doesn't apply, right? So the reason that we have the pref, which is more expensive than bank debt, is because we've seen this movie several times in the past. The oil and gas industry goes through cycles. We like to and put it of paramount importance, the ability to protect common distributions. So we paid a dividend all the way through COVID. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:15:48Even when oil went negative, we paid a dividend. So what we're doing is just carefully managing leverage so that we can stay at that 1.5 times target for the foreseeable future. And again, if we're able to execute like we have in the past on equity based M and A, we would expect to be able to accelerate that payment down. So keeping leverage at 1.5x or less, we've gone considerably lower than that in the past. And then just reload the balance sheet for future M and A down the road where we have to use cash consideration to find something that's particularly attractive like LimePoint or something else. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:16:24So goal is absolutely to continue to delever. Our business is more than most purpose built for an environment like this. We have, by design, a very balanced portfolio between oil and natural gas. It's funny, I think a lot of people forgot that 50% of our production is gas weighted, which has obviously benefited quarter over quarter. We also have diversity across every base in The United States. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:16:48And then last and certainly not least, we have the lowest PDP decline rate of pretty much any company that I'm aware of. So I think the combination of all of that plus 90 rigs still actively drilling on our acreage keys us up, at least on a relative basis, to outperform most companies in the upstream space. I'd also add just anecdotally, because I thought this was interesting, we're in a unique position just given how diverse our exposure is throughout The United States. We have acreage in pretty much every county, if not every county that produces hydrocarbons in The United States. And there's been a lot of talk in the last couple of weeks about drilling activity slowing down and what's happening. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:17:30What's interesting is we're looking forward to Q2, and I don't want to get ahead too much, but we might have the second highest lease bonus payments we've ever had in company history in Q2. And so I don't want to read too much into that, but we were a little bit surprised to see that lease bonus activity was picking up considerably at least quarter one to quarter two, and most of that's been in the Permian Basin. So it just runs a little bit counter to the narrative that things are slowing down. And that isn't to say that things won't in the future. But from our perspective, we not only have we not seen a slowdown, we've actually seen kind of a dramatic improvement in leasing activities, which I think is surprising, and I hope you find interesting. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:18:16I'd like Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:18:17to add to what David said. This is Bob. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:18:20Been doing this since 'ninety eight. Love this business model, obviously. And what we're with regard to organic growth and production increases on our properties, we're very diversified. We've put together a portfolio with considerable thought through all the years to maintain a really low PDP decline rate. And what we're doing is really taking a bet on how smart the engineers and geologists and landmen are and finance that are employed by our operators. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:18:56Their job depends on increasing production and maintaining production. Their salaries depend upon it, and their bonuses depend upon it. So every day, engineers, geologists, landmen, Midland, Houston, Dallas, Oklahoma City, Denver, are trying to figure out they're some of the best and the brightest in The US. And they're trying to figure out a way to maintain production because because they maybe want to buy a new f 150. They maybe want to get a nice Christmas gift for their kids and wives with a nice bonus. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:19:33And that's dependent upon them figuring out ways to maintain and increase production. I'll bet on that all day long. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:19:42Okay. That's excellent color. I appreciate the context. If I could just sneak one last one in related to that comment on natural gas. I would have thought with debt up and some significant contango in the gas strip, we might see you all take advantage of that. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:19:58I know you layered in some twenty twenty seven hedges, but you seem about 20% hedged going forward. Just kind of curious on your thoughts on hedging with higher debt. Thank you. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:20:08Yes, that's a great question. We actually talked about that at the Board level yesterday. We run stress tests internally on our production, and we look for we stress oil and gas down to very low levels, and we look at our ability to protect that the ability to pay distributions to common unitholders. And we feel that 20% hedged level is a good place to be. That is something that we actively think about, though. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:20:36And your point is well taken with, obviously, the natural gas strip increasing, should you layer on more hedges. It's something we think about. On the other hand, we try to take judgment out of the equation when we hedge. We don't try to time oil and gas prices when we layer on hedging. We have a very, methodical, formulaic approach to layering on hedges. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:21:01We do that thought is not lost on us. It's an intelligent thought. But at this time, we still like that 20% hedging level. We think that it protects us even in a very draconian pricing environment. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:21:17Okay. I'll leave it there. I appreciate all the answers. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:21:20Yes. Thanks, Tim. Operator00:21:23And the next question comes from the line of John Annes with Texas Capital. Please proceed with your question. John AnnisVice President at Texas Capital00:21:30Hey, good morning guys and congrats on the strong quarter. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:21:33Good morning, John AnnisVice President at Texas Capital00:21:35morning. For my first one, you mentioned the activity dashboard for both your line of sight activity and your market share of active rigs is quite supportive of growth in 2025. With the strong volumes in the first quarter, how do you see volumes trending throughout the year? And is there anything that has left you a little more conservative just given the net well inventories are above maintenance levels? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:22:05Great question and fair. We have a history of being conservative with our guidance. We're reaffirming our guidance. And I don't think there's anything at this time that we see that would cause us to alter guidance one way or the other. I think that in an environment like this, prudence is warranted. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:22:24We're just unclear what's going to happen with drilling schedules and CapEx. Again, based on everything I said on the preceding ten minutes, we're not seeing any evidence of a slowdown, which I think might be surprising to people. And maybe it comes in the future. But just based on near term activity we've got from DUCs and permits, the amount of rigs that are running, lease bonus activity, everything else, we feel very good about hitting our guidance numbers this year and would like to just keep them the same. So that's why we're reaffirming them. John AnnisVice President at Texas Capital00:22:59That's terrific color. For my follow-up, just regarding your attractive tax structure, how much runway do you have where your distributions can be conveyed on a tax friendly basis? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:23:12That is a great question, and it's a very complicated one. Obviously, we have a considerable tax shield, and we do feel that is a very unique attribute to our business. When oil and gas prices go up, more of our dividend is subject to taxes. When oil and gas prices go down, less of it is, and that's why we have that wonderful preponderance of our dividend, which is return of capital as opposed to ordinary income or dividend taxation. The runway on that is hard to predict because it depends on so many different variables, production, oil and gas prices, which we can't predict. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:23:53But it is considerable, I'll put it that way, and we see no near term end to that runway, so to speak, in the foreseeable future. John AnnisVice President at Texas Capital00:24:07Guys. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:24:09Thank you. Operator00:24:13And the next question comes from the line of Paul Diamond Please proceed with your question. Paul DiamondAnalyst at Citigroup00:24:19Thank you. Good morning all and thanks for taking the time. Just a one for you on I know you can or paid down or redeemed 50% of the converts. Just want to get an understanding of how you all think about what's left long term and how that fits into the cap structure over time? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:24:39Yes. So the game plan is to continue to pay down debt every quarter. I think we paid down $17,000,000 of debt this quarter. And then every two to three quarters, we'll redeem out at least 20% of the face value of that pref. That's the way that it's structured, is that we can do it, and 20% increments. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:24:57So you'll see us continue to allocate 25% of cash flow available per distribution to debt paydown. And then we will periodically, every couple of quarters or so, chip away at that pref, all the while maintaining that kind of ceiling of, let's call it, plus or minus, depending on oil and gas prices, a plus or minus 1.5x EBITDA. So the goal is to just chip away at that over time. We did that the only other time we've had a prep is back when we did that Haymaker acquisition in 2018, where we bought into our, what is the most important natural gas part of our company, which is in the Eastern Haynesville and Louisiana. And we did that quite successfully that way, and we just like the way that works. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:25:41It gives us a lot of optionality to pay down the debt prudently and to manage our debt levels or covenant levels. Paul DiamondAnalyst at Citigroup00:25:49Understood. Makes perfect sense. And then just drilling down a bit more on something you had said prior, where you've got to get blown out of the water, on the M and A side for nat gas. I guess, can you is there any bifurcation in that narrative between Haynesville or Appalachia? And has it kind of shifted over time? Paul DiamondAnalyst at Citigroup00:26:06Or is it all pretty much like everyone's walking in a higher future price? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:26:12Good nuanced question. I would say it's been more competitive in the Haynesville than it has been in Appalachia. There's a lot of interest in the Haynesville these days. And I mean, look, we like the Marcellus, too. Everybody loves Marcellus. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:26:28But just the ability to ramp growth there given infrastructure constraints is just obvious to everyone. So I would say, if I had to handicap that, I'd say that we have been more in the money in Appalachia than we have been in the Haynesville recently. And look, we've seen these waves before. I mean, there was a long period of time where we were just getting crushed in the Permian, for example. And then as that play started to mature, things became more accretive to us, and we've been able to rattle off a series of acquisitions in the Permian. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:27:01And that wasn't because we were deliberately targeting the Permian, it's just because that's where we saw the opportunity set. I wouldn't be surprised to see, for example, the Western Haynesville, East Texas, those prices are really high right now, and it's still a relatively undeveloped play. There's still a lot of running room there. It's more difficult for us to make things accretive on a cash flow basis. I think as that play gets delineated, as we get a better understanding of how things are developed, I would expect for that to become a more competitive place for us to allocate capital. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:27:36But good question. I think one other thing I'd add, everybody forgets about the Mid Con. Mid Con has tremendous gas volumes without any of the infrastructure constraints. The Longpoint acquisition that we did a few years ago really underscores almost the entire state of Oklahoma in terms of mineral ownership. So we've seen a lot of really, really great natural gas revenue coming and NGLs coming out of Oklahoma, too. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:28:01So that's an area where there's less competition and frankly, just some really good repeatable well results. So I think that's one other plan to kind of put on your radar of interest on the M and A front. Rick BlackEVP at Dennard Lascar Investor Relations00:28:17Understood. Appreciate the clarity. I'll leave it there. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:28:19Of course. Thank you. Operator00:28:23And the next question comes from the line of Noah Hungness with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Noah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:28:30Good morning, my first question I just wanted to ask on Hey, Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:28:36good morning, Noah. Good morning, Noah. Noah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:28:40Hey, guys. I just wanted to ask on the first question here was just on NGL and natural gas realizations. You guys seem to come in a lot stronger than maybe what we were expecting and what we had seen at similar times in prior years. Could you maybe talk about what drove that beat? And then also kind of how to think about, where NGLs as a percent of WTI and natural gas as a percent of Henry Hub would kind of trend through the balance of 25%? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:29:08Yes. I would use this quarter's numbers as a goalpost for the rest of the year. Fourth quarter differentials, they're traditionally worse for royalty companies, for everybody. But for royalty companies, in particular, I think 1Q number is going to be more representative going forward. And I actually asked that same question, Noah, to our technical team about where are we seeing the biggest uplift in differentials, and it's really been across the board. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:29:34We've seen that pretty much in every basin across our portfolio and improvements in both NGL and natural gas differentials. So there really isn't one area that I could attribute that improvement to. It's really been across the entire portfolio. Noah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:29:53Great. And then for my second question here, you guys gave us some great color on kind of where net DUCs were at the end of the quarter. But I'm sure as you guys are well aware, a lot has happened since March 31. So could you guys give us an update on where the net DUCs kind of stand today? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:30:13Yes. I think that's in our materials. Let me pull that up. Give me a second. Matthew DalyCOO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:30:24Yes. I mean, we no, this is Matt Daly. We disclosed we had 4.67 net DUCs at threethirty one, and that's the latest data we've disclosed publicly. Noah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:30:34Okay. Yes. I was just wondering if you had any color on maybe how that was trending in the first month or two into the quarter? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:30:43No. I mean, it's as you can imagine, it's an incredibly time intensive endeavor to go through our tens of millions of acres and quantify those DUCs and permits. So we do it once per quarter. Again, activity remains very solid. I wouldn't say there's a trend one way or the other. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:31:00Most of the DUCs are in the Permian, but we've got a significant number, almost the remaining half are spread throughout the other six major basins that we're in. So good trends there. Haven't again, just haven't seen any indication of a slowdown, not to say that it isn't going to happen nationwide, but continue to feel very good about our production profile. Matthew DalyCOO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:31:23And I would just add, this Matthew DalyCOO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:31:24is Matt again. Mean the Conoco commentary this morning indicated that production is going to remain flat in their Permian assets and overall and then the Diamondback down 1%. So we're not looking at this sort of a dramatic drop off here in terms of Permian production. And again, half our production is natural gas. So in some ways, we're a lot more insulated from what could be happening in the Permian in terms of a slight slowdown. Noah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:31:46No, that makes a ton of sense. Noah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:31:47I appreciate the color. Thank you. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:31:49Thank you, Noah. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:31:50Noah, thank you for your time. Operator00:31:57This now concludes our question and answer session. And I would like to turn the floor back over to management for any closing comments. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:32:11Thank you for your time, everybody, and have a great day. Operator00:32:16Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference call.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesRobert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEODavis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-FounderMatthew DalyCOOAnalystsRick BlackEVP at Dennard Lascar Investor RelationsTim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital MarketsJohn AnnisVice President at Texas CapitalPaul DiamondAnalyst at CitigroupNoah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill LynchPowered by Key Takeaways Kimball reported a record Q1 2025 with highest-ever oil, natural gas and NGL revenues, consolidated adjusted EBITDA and cash available for distribution. In Q1 2025, the partnership completed an accretive Permian Basin acquisition, boosted its credit facility from $550 million to $625 million and redeemed 50% of its Series A convertible preferred units. Activity remains robust with 90 rigs drilling on Kimball’s acreage (16% of Lower 48 rigs) and strong permitting, including 17 new wells permitted in Martin County, Texas, on an asset held since 2006. The partnership declared a $0.47/unit distribution for Q1, up 17.5% quarter-over-quarter, with an estimated 70% of the distribution treated as return of capital for tax purposes. At quarter-end net debt/EBITDA was ~0.9× (rising to ~1.5× post-redemption), with a policy of distributing 75% of cash available and using the remaining 25% to pay down revolving debt, while reaffirming full-year 2025 guidance. AI Generated. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Greetings, and welcome to the Kimball Royalty Partners First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. And as a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce to you Rick Black with Investor Relations. Operator00:00:27Thank you, Rick. You may begin. Rick BlackEVP at Dennard Lascar Investor Relations00:00:31Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Kimbell Royalty Partners conference call to review financial and operational results for the first quarter of twenty twenty five, which ended on 03/31/2025. This call is also being webcast and can be accessed through the audio link on the Events and Presentations page of the IR section of kimbellrp.com. Information recorded on this call speaks only as of today, which is 05/08/2025. So please be advised that any time sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the date of any replay listening or transcript reading. Rick BlackEVP at Dennard Lascar Investor Relations00:01:06I would also like to remind you that the statements made in today's discussion that are not historical facts, including statements of expectations or future events or future financial performance, those are considered forward looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. We will be making forward looking statements as part of today's call, which by their nature are uncertain and outside of the company's control. Actual results may differ materially. Please refer to today's earnings release for our disclosures on forward looking statements. These factors as well as other risks and uncertainties are described in detail in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Rick BlackEVP at Dennard Lascar Investor Relations00:01:47Management will also refer to non GAAP measures, including adjusted EBITDA and cash available for distribution. Reconciliations to the nearest GAAP measures can be found at the end of today's earnings release. Kimball assumes no obligation to publicly update or revise any of these forward looking statements. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Bob Raviness, Kimball Realty Partners' Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Bob? Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:02:13Thank you, Rick, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us on the call this morning. With me today are several members of our senior management team including Davis Radness, our President and Chief Financial Officer Matt Daly, our Chief Operating Officer and Blaine Rinesberger, our Controller. We are pleased to start the year by reporting a record first quarter, which achieved several milestones across key metrics including record oil, natural gas and NGL revenues, record consolidated adjusted EBITDA and record cash available for distribution. Other twenty twenty five milestones so far also include completing a highly attractive and accretive acquisition in the core of the Permian Basin on 01/17/2025, increasing the company's borrowing base and elected commitments on our credit facility from $550,000,000 to $625,000,000 on 05/01/2025 and redeeming 50% of the Series A cumulative convertible preferred units on 05/07/2025 further simplifying our capital structure and reducing our cost of capital. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:03:27Even with the uncertainty occurring across the broader geopolitical landscape, activity on our acreage remains robust with 90 rigs actively drilling on our acreage at quarter end representing 16% market share of all rigs drilling in the Lower 48, which is unchanged from Q4 twenty twenty four. Permitting also remained strong. In fact, one notable example this quarter was from one of our oldest properties that we acquired in 02/2006 from an East Coast College endowment. This royalty asset which we have owned for nearly twenty years and has generated profits that are multiple times its original investment recently permitted 17 additional wells in Martin County, Texas with NRIs above 2%. This shows not only the strength of our diversified portfolio of assets, but also the benefit of the perpetual nature of minerals that can often provide surprisingly upside decades beyond the original investment at no cost to us. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:04:31Line of sight wells continue to be above the number of wells needed to maintain flat production, giving us confidence in the resilience of our production for 2025. Our superior five year annual average PDP decline rate of 14% including the acquired production requires only an estimated 6.5 net wells annually to maintain flat production. Today, we are pleased to declare our first quarter distribution of $0.47 per common unit, an increase of 17.5% from the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four and reflecting an approximate 16% annualized tax advantage yield. We estimate that approximately 70% of this distribution is expected to be considered return of capital and not subject to dividend taxes further enhancing the after tax return to our common unitholders. Turning to the remainder of the year, despite the current volatility and uncertainty in the broader economy and its impact on commodity prices, we remain confident in achieving our goals for 2025. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:05:40As a pure play mineral company with ownership of a diversified portfolio of high margin shallow decline assets with zero capital requirements needed to support resilient free cash flow, we remain bullish about The U. S. Oil and natural gas royalty industry and our role as a leading consolidator in the sector. We are encouraged by the opportunities we see in 2025 and beyond to continue to grow and expand our industry leading portfolio of assets to generate long term unitholder value. I'll now turn the call over to Davis. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:06:17Thanks, Bob, and good morning, everyone. As Bob mentioned, this is another strong quarter for Kimball. We generated several new quarterly records for oil, natural gas and NGL revenues, consolidated adjusted EBITDA and cash available for distribution. We also increased our borrowing base and elected commitment and redeemed 50% of the Series A convertible preferred units, which I'll discuss in more detail in a moment. I'll now start by reviewing our financial results for the first quarter. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:06:52Oil, natural gas and NGL revenues totaled $90,000,000 during the quarter, which includes seventy four days of contribution from the acquired production and is a new record for Kimmel. Including a full Q1 twenty twenty five impact of the acquired production, first quarter run rate production was 25,841 BOE per day. In addition, we exited the quarter with 90 rigs actively drilling on our acreage, which represents approximately 16% market share of all land rigs drilling in The Continental United States and is flat from Q4 twenty twenty four. On the expense side, first quarter general and administrative expenses were $9,600,000 5 point 8 million dollars of which was cash G and A expense or $2.52 per BOE. Total first quarter consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $75,500,000 which includes seventy four days of contribution from the acquired production and is also a new record for Kimmel. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:08:05You will find a reconciliation of both consolidated adjusted EBITDA and cash available for distribution at the end of our news release. As Bob mentioned, today we announced a cash distribution of $0.47 per common unit for the first quarter. We estimate that approximately 70% of this distribution is expected to be considered return of capital and not subject to dividend taxes, further enhancing the after tax return to our common unitholders. This represents a cash distribution payment to common unitholders that equates to 75% of cash available for distribution and the remaining 25% will be used to pay down a portion of the outstanding borrowings under Kimball's secured revolving credit facility. Moving now to our balance sheet and liquidity. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:09:01At 03/31/2025, we had approximately $299,000,000 in debt outstanding under our secured revolving credit facility, which represented a net debt to trailing twelve month consolidated adjusted EBITDA of approximately 0.9 times. We also had approximately $251,000,000 in undrawn capacity under the secured revolving credit facility as of 03/31/2025. Subsequent to quarter end, on 05/01/2025, the borrowing base and aggregate commitments on our secured revolving credit facility were increased from $550,000,000 to $625,000,000 in connection with our spring redetermination. In addition, on 05/07/2025, we redeemed 50% of the Series A cumulative convertible preferred units outstanding. This further simplifies our capital structure and reduces our cost of capital. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:10:05After giving effect to this redemption, along with the expected pay down from the remaining 25% of Q1 twenty twenty five projected cash available for distribution, Kimball expects to have approximately 462,100,000 in debt outstanding under its secured credit facility and have net debt to first quarter twenty twenty five trailing twelve month consolidated adjusted EBITDA of approximately 1.5 times. We continue to maintain a conservative balance sheet and remain very comfortable with our strong financial position, the support of our expanding bank syndicate and our financial flexibility. Today, we are also affirming our financial and operational guidance ranges for 2025. As a reminder, our full 2025 guidance outlook was included in the Q4 twenty twenty four earnings release. We remain confident about the prospects for continued robust development as we progress through 2025, given the number of rigs actively drilling on our acreage, especially in the Permian, as well as our line of sight wells materially exceeding our maintenance well count. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:11:23Lastly, as evidenced by our track record of ongoing acquisition activity, we expect to continue our role as a major consolidator in the highly fragmented U. S. Oil and natural gas royalty sector, which we estimate to be over $700,000,000,000 in size. And as we have stated in the past, there are only a handful of public entities in The United States and Canada that have the financial resources, infrastructure, network and technical expertise to complete large scale multi basin acquisitions. We continue to believe that the overall demand for energy, our well established and diversified asset portfolio and the attractive opportunities to further expand and add scale within our basins will continue to enhance value for our unitholders in the years to come. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:12:15With that, operator, we are now ready for questions. Operator00:12:19Thank you, sir. We will now be conducting a question and answer And the first question comes from the line of Tim Rezvan with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:12:55Good morning, folks. Thank you for taking our questions. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:12:58Good morning, Tim. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:12:59I Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:13:00want to start your last comments about continuing as a major consolidator. No surprise there. But I was wondering if you could kind of talk about your interest in M and A today. Everything we're hearing on the oil side is that things are kind of on a pause right now. The mineral space has been a lot of new capital being deployed, especially on the gas side. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:13:25So can you talk about kind of your interest today and maybe how your equity currency is not really what it was a few months ago as shares have pulled back across the industry. So kind of your interest in how maybe where your shares are trading today would factor into that. Thanks. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:13:42Great question, Tim. Always looking at M and A opportunities just to say right out of the gates. Your comments notwithstanding, which I totally agree with, we've had a hard time transacting on natural gas deals over the last couple of years. Just seems like we've gotten blown out of the water. I don't know if people are baking in higher price decks in the future strip or what exactly is happening there, but that's been challenging on the natural gas side. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:14:09I'd say that if M and A activity for us, it's a high bar, to state the obvious. We would be interested in doing deals where and we have a long history of doing this, where we could use our equity accretively to buy assets that would delever the business and just accelerate not only the scale of the company but also the deleveraging process. So if you look back historically, we've done that quite well and have been fortunate to have a lot of success in doing that in the past. And I would expect us to I'd be surprised if we weren't able to execute on some sort of M and A on that front, let's call it, over the next six to eighteen months, which I think would be to everybody's benefit. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:14:55Okay. Okay. So I guess we'll stay tuned on that front. And then I appreciate the comments on leverage. It seems pretty clear that the residual free cash flow will work that debt balance down. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:15:08Do you have a target number you're looking to? Or is the plan just steady state, pay that down to give you more dry powder for the next deal? How are thinking about the Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:15:20So one advantage of the pref that we have that I think is lost on a lot of people is that for covenant purposes, it doesn't apply, right? So the reason that we have the pref, which is more expensive than bank debt, is because we've seen this movie several times in the past. The oil and gas industry goes through cycles. We like to and put it of paramount importance, the ability to protect common distributions. So we paid a dividend all the way through COVID. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:15:48Even when oil went negative, we paid a dividend. So what we're doing is just carefully managing leverage so that we can stay at that 1.5 times target for the foreseeable future. And again, if we're able to execute like we have in the past on equity based M and A, we would expect to be able to accelerate that payment down. So keeping leverage at 1.5x or less, we've gone considerably lower than that in the past. And then just reload the balance sheet for future M and A down the road where we have to use cash consideration to find something that's particularly attractive like LimePoint or something else. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:16:24So goal is absolutely to continue to delever. Our business is more than most purpose built for an environment like this. We have, by design, a very balanced portfolio between oil and natural gas. It's funny, I think a lot of people forgot that 50% of our production is gas weighted, which has obviously benefited quarter over quarter. We also have diversity across every base in The United States. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:16:48And then last and certainly not least, we have the lowest PDP decline rate of pretty much any company that I'm aware of. So I think the combination of all of that plus 90 rigs still actively drilling on our acreage keys us up, at least on a relative basis, to outperform most companies in the upstream space. I'd also add just anecdotally, because I thought this was interesting, we're in a unique position just given how diverse our exposure is throughout The United States. We have acreage in pretty much every county, if not every county that produces hydrocarbons in The United States. And there's been a lot of talk in the last couple of weeks about drilling activity slowing down and what's happening. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:17:30What's interesting is we're looking forward to Q2, and I don't want to get ahead too much, but we might have the second highest lease bonus payments we've ever had in company history in Q2. And so I don't want to read too much into that, but we were a little bit surprised to see that lease bonus activity was picking up considerably at least quarter one to quarter two, and most of that's been in the Permian Basin. So it just runs a little bit counter to the narrative that things are slowing down. And that isn't to say that things won't in the future. But from our perspective, we not only have we not seen a slowdown, we've actually seen kind of a dramatic improvement in leasing activities, which I think is surprising, and I hope you find interesting. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:18:16I'd like Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:18:17to add to what David said. This is Bob. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:18:20Been doing this since 'ninety eight. Love this business model, obviously. And what we're with regard to organic growth and production increases on our properties, we're very diversified. We've put together a portfolio with considerable thought through all the years to maintain a really low PDP decline rate. And what we're doing is really taking a bet on how smart the engineers and geologists and landmen are and finance that are employed by our operators. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:18:56Their job depends on increasing production and maintaining production. Their salaries depend upon it, and their bonuses depend upon it. So every day, engineers, geologists, landmen, Midland, Houston, Dallas, Oklahoma City, Denver, are trying to figure out they're some of the best and the brightest in The US. And they're trying to figure out a way to maintain production because because they maybe want to buy a new f 150. They maybe want to get a nice Christmas gift for their kids and wives with a nice bonus. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:19:33And that's dependent upon them figuring out ways to maintain and increase production. I'll bet on that all day long. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:19:42Okay. That's excellent color. I appreciate the context. If I could just sneak one last one in related to that comment on natural gas. I would have thought with debt up and some significant contango in the gas strip, we might see you all take advantage of that. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:19:58I know you layered in some twenty twenty seven hedges, but you seem about 20% hedged going forward. Just kind of curious on your thoughts on hedging with higher debt. Thank you. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:20:08Yes, that's a great question. We actually talked about that at the Board level yesterday. We run stress tests internally on our production, and we look for we stress oil and gas down to very low levels, and we look at our ability to protect that the ability to pay distributions to common unitholders. And we feel that 20% hedged level is a good place to be. That is something that we actively think about, though. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:20:36And your point is well taken with, obviously, the natural gas strip increasing, should you layer on more hedges. It's something we think about. On the other hand, we try to take judgment out of the equation when we hedge. We don't try to time oil and gas prices when we layer on hedging. We have a very, methodical, formulaic approach to layering on hedges. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:21:01We do that thought is not lost on us. It's an intelligent thought. But at this time, we still like that 20% hedging level. We think that it protects us even in a very draconian pricing environment. Tim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:21:17Okay. I'll leave it there. I appreciate all the answers. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:21:20Yes. Thanks, Tim. Operator00:21:23And the next question comes from the line of John Annes with Texas Capital. Please proceed with your question. John AnnisVice President at Texas Capital00:21:30Hey, good morning guys and congrats on the strong quarter. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:21:33Good morning, John AnnisVice President at Texas Capital00:21:35morning. For my first one, you mentioned the activity dashboard for both your line of sight activity and your market share of active rigs is quite supportive of growth in 2025. With the strong volumes in the first quarter, how do you see volumes trending throughout the year? And is there anything that has left you a little more conservative just given the net well inventories are above maintenance levels? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:22:05Great question and fair. We have a history of being conservative with our guidance. We're reaffirming our guidance. And I don't think there's anything at this time that we see that would cause us to alter guidance one way or the other. I think that in an environment like this, prudence is warranted. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:22:24We're just unclear what's going to happen with drilling schedules and CapEx. Again, based on everything I said on the preceding ten minutes, we're not seeing any evidence of a slowdown, which I think might be surprising to people. And maybe it comes in the future. But just based on near term activity we've got from DUCs and permits, the amount of rigs that are running, lease bonus activity, everything else, we feel very good about hitting our guidance numbers this year and would like to just keep them the same. So that's why we're reaffirming them. John AnnisVice President at Texas Capital00:22:59That's terrific color. For my follow-up, just regarding your attractive tax structure, how much runway do you have where your distributions can be conveyed on a tax friendly basis? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:23:12That is a great question, and it's a very complicated one. Obviously, we have a considerable tax shield, and we do feel that is a very unique attribute to our business. When oil and gas prices go up, more of our dividend is subject to taxes. When oil and gas prices go down, less of it is, and that's why we have that wonderful preponderance of our dividend, which is return of capital as opposed to ordinary income or dividend taxation. The runway on that is hard to predict because it depends on so many different variables, production, oil and gas prices, which we can't predict. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:23:53But it is considerable, I'll put it that way, and we see no near term end to that runway, so to speak, in the foreseeable future. John AnnisVice President at Texas Capital00:24:07Guys. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:24:09Thank you. Operator00:24:13And the next question comes from the line of Paul Diamond Please proceed with your question. Paul DiamondAnalyst at Citigroup00:24:19Thank you. Good morning all and thanks for taking the time. Just a one for you on I know you can or paid down or redeemed 50% of the converts. Just want to get an understanding of how you all think about what's left long term and how that fits into the cap structure over time? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:24:39Yes. So the game plan is to continue to pay down debt every quarter. I think we paid down $17,000,000 of debt this quarter. And then every two to three quarters, we'll redeem out at least 20% of the face value of that pref. That's the way that it's structured, is that we can do it, and 20% increments. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:24:57So you'll see us continue to allocate 25% of cash flow available per distribution to debt paydown. And then we will periodically, every couple of quarters or so, chip away at that pref, all the while maintaining that kind of ceiling of, let's call it, plus or minus, depending on oil and gas prices, a plus or minus 1.5x EBITDA. So the goal is to just chip away at that over time. We did that the only other time we've had a prep is back when we did that Haymaker acquisition in 2018, where we bought into our, what is the most important natural gas part of our company, which is in the Eastern Haynesville and Louisiana. And we did that quite successfully that way, and we just like the way that works. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:25:41It gives us a lot of optionality to pay down the debt prudently and to manage our debt levels or covenant levels. Paul DiamondAnalyst at Citigroup00:25:49Understood. Makes perfect sense. And then just drilling down a bit more on something you had said prior, where you've got to get blown out of the water, on the M and A side for nat gas. I guess, can you is there any bifurcation in that narrative between Haynesville or Appalachia? And has it kind of shifted over time? Paul DiamondAnalyst at Citigroup00:26:06Or is it all pretty much like everyone's walking in a higher future price? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:26:12Good nuanced question. I would say it's been more competitive in the Haynesville than it has been in Appalachia. There's a lot of interest in the Haynesville these days. And I mean, look, we like the Marcellus, too. Everybody loves Marcellus. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:26:28But just the ability to ramp growth there given infrastructure constraints is just obvious to everyone. So I would say, if I had to handicap that, I'd say that we have been more in the money in Appalachia than we have been in the Haynesville recently. And look, we've seen these waves before. I mean, there was a long period of time where we were just getting crushed in the Permian, for example. And then as that play started to mature, things became more accretive to us, and we've been able to rattle off a series of acquisitions in the Permian. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:27:01And that wasn't because we were deliberately targeting the Permian, it's just because that's where we saw the opportunity set. I wouldn't be surprised to see, for example, the Western Haynesville, East Texas, those prices are really high right now, and it's still a relatively undeveloped play. There's still a lot of running room there. It's more difficult for us to make things accretive on a cash flow basis. I think as that play gets delineated, as we get a better understanding of how things are developed, I would expect for that to become a more competitive place for us to allocate capital. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:27:36But good question. I think one other thing I'd add, everybody forgets about the Mid Con. Mid Con has tremendous gas volumes without any of the infrastructure constraints. The Longpoint acquisition that we did a few years ago really underscores almost the entire state of Oklahoma in terms of mineral ownership. So we've seen a lot of really, really great natural gas revenue coming and NGLs coming out of Oklahoma, too. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:28:01So that's an area where there's less competition and frankly, just some really good repeatable well results. So I think that's one other plan to kind of put on your radar of interest on the M and A front. Rick BlackEVP at Dennard Lascar Investor Relations00:28:17Understood. Appreciate the clarity. I'll leave it there. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:28:19Of course. Thank you. Operator00:28:23And the next question comes from the line of Noah Hungness with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Noah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:28:30Good morning, my first question I just wanted to ask on Hey, Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:28:36good morning, Noah. Good morning, Noah. Noah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:28:40Hey, guys. I just wanted to ask on the first question here was just on NGL and natural gas realizations. You guys seem to come in a lot stronger than maybe what we were expecting and what we had seen at similar times in prior years. Could you maybe talk about what drove that beat? And then also kind of how to think about, where NGLs as a percent of WTI and natural gas as a percent of Henry Hub would kind of trend through the balance of 25%? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:29:08Yes. I would use this quarter's numbers as a goalpost for the rest of the year. Fourth quarter differentials, they're traditionally worse for royalty companies, for everybody. But for royalty companies, in particular, I think 1Q number is going to be more representative going forward. And I actually asked that same question, Noah, to our technical team about where are we seeing the biggest uplift in differentials, and it's really been across the board. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:29:34We've seen that pretty much in every basin across our portfolio and improvements in both NGL and natural gas differentials. So there really isn't one area that I could attribute that improvement to. It's really been across the entire portfolio. Noah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:29:53Great. And then for my second question here, you guys gave us some great color on kind of where net DUCs were at the end of the quarter. But I'm sure as you guys are well aware, a lot has happened since March 31. So could you guys give us an update on where the net DUCs kind of stand today? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:30:13Yes. I think that's in our materials. Let me pull that up. Give me a second. Matthew DalyCOO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:30:24Yes. I mean, we no, this is Matt Daly. We disclosed we had 4.67 net DUCs at threethirty one, and that's the latest data we've disclosed publicly. Noah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:30:34Okay. Yes. I was just wondering if you had any color on maybe how that was trending in the first month or two into the quarter? Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:30:43No. I mean, it's as you can imagine, it's an incredibly time intensive endeavor to go through our tens of millions of acres and quantify those DUCs and permits. So we do it once per quarter. Again, activity remains very solid. I wouldn't say there's a trend one way or the other. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:31:00Most of the DUCs are in the Permian, but we've got a significant number, almost the remaining half are spread throughout the other six major basins that we're in. So good trends there. Haven't again, just haven't seen any indication of a slowdown, not to say that it isn't going to happen nationwide, but continue to feel very good about our production profile. Matthew DalyCOO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:31:23And I would just add, this Matthew DalyCOO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:31:24is Matt again. Mean the Conoco commentary this morning indicated that production is going to remain flat in their Permian assets and overall and then the Diamondback down 1%. So we're not looking at this sort of a dramatic drop off here in terms of Permian production. And again, half our production is natural gas. So in some ways, we're a lot more insulated from what could be happening in the Permian in terms of a slight slowdown. Noah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:31:46No, that makes a ton of sense. Noah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill Lynch00:31:47I appreciate the color. Thank you. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:31:49Thank you, Noah. Robert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEO at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:31:50Noah, thank you for your time. Operator00:31:57This now concludes our question and answer session. And I would like to turn the floor back over to management for any closing comments. Davis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-Founder at Kimbell Royalty Partners00:32:11Thank you for your time, everybody, and have a great day. Operator00:32:16Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference call.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesRobert RavnaasCO-Founder, Chairman & CEODavis RavnaasPresident, CFO and Co-FounderMatthew DalyCOOAnalystsRick BlackEVP at Dennard Lascar Investor RelationsTim RezvanManaging Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital MarketsJohn AnnisVice President at Texas CapitalPaul DiamondAnalyst at CitigroupNoah HungnessEquity Research Associate at Bank of America Merrill LynchPowered by