NASDAQ:SGC Superior Group of Companies Q1 2025 Earnings Report $10.00 -0.12 (-1.19%) As of 01:22 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Superior Group of Companies EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.05Consensus EPS $0.11Beat/MissMissed by -$0.16One Year Ago EPSN/ASuperior Group of Companies Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$137.10 millionExpected Revenue$139.85 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$2.76 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ASuperior Group of Companies Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/8/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, May 8, 2025Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsSuperior Group of Companies' Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, August 5, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Superior Group of Companies Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 8, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to the Superior Group of Companies First Quarter twenty twenty five Conference Call. With us today are Michael Benstock, Chief Executive Officer and Mike Kempel, Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. This call may contain forward looking statements regarding the company's plans, initiatives and strategies and the anticipated financial performance of the company, including but not limited to sales and profitability. Such statements are based upon management's current expectations, projections, estimates and assumptions. Operator00:00:39Words such as expect, believe, anticipate, think, outlook, hope and variations of such words and similar expressions identify such forward looking statements. Forward looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause future results to differ materially from those suggested by forward looking statements. Such risks and uncertainties are further disclosed in the company's periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including, but not limited to, the company's most recent annual report on Form 10 ks and the quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. Shareholders, potential investors and other readers are urged to consider these factors carefully in evaluating the forward looking statements made herein and cautioned not to place undue reliance on such forward looking statements. The company does not undertake to update the forward looking statements except as required by law. Operator00:01:45And now I'll turn the call over to Michael Benstock. Speaker 100:01:50Thank you, and welcome everyone to today's call. As usual, I'll start with a review of consolidated financial highlights for the first quarter, including a discussion around our three business segments and current market conditions. Mike will then walk us through our financial results in more detail, then we'd be happy to take your questions. So let's get started. Our customer buying hesitancy persisted through the quarter. Speaker 100:02:13On top of the uncertainty around inflation and interest rates, the recently introduced tariffs that have already been revised a few times, in particular, the ever escalating China tariff rate, not only further slowed customer decision making, but has made sourcing of our products somewhat of a challenge. The good news is that SGC has successfully navigated numerous economic challenges in the past, and we entered 2025 in a strong financial position to manage through the current economic uncertainty. Of course, we have no line of sight to what the next move by our executive branch will be and what countermoves will take place in this tit for tat environment. As many of you are aware, for decades, we have had a redundant manufacturing and sourcing strategy in place for most of what we produce. This competitive strategy has helped us greatly in the past no matter the challenging environment. Speaker 100:03:07Let me point out for those of you who are new to our story that we are not heavily invested in China manufacturing or sourcing our finished products for our Healthcare segment or, of course, for our call center segment. But a handful of our customers' products that we support in our call centers will be impacted by high tariffs on China made products brought into The USA, and that will ultimately impact their businesses, which could have a trickle down impact to us. It is also true that some of our customers could competitively benefit from high tariffs on products from China or elsewhere. During these challenging times, we have the advantage of leveraging the diversification of our three business segments combined with our multiple sources of supply. We remain focused on what we can control, which you can well imagine is centered on strong cost management. Speaker 100:03:57The costs we've recently eliminated from the business that Mike will speak to will support even stronger profitability as demand normalizes. Taking a look at our consolidated first quarter results, we held revenue nearly flat year over year despite the macro headwinds and lapping a 6% increase in the first quarter a year ago. Growth in our contact center business was offset by a slight decline in branded products, our largest segment, and a decline in healthcare apparel. Also on a consolidated basis, we recorded a first quarter net loss per share of $05 relative to earnings per diluted share of $0.24 in the prior year period. The profit decline was primarily the result of lower gross margins from sales mix changes that included fewer orders from higher margin customers. Speaker 100:04:49Despite the quarterly net loss, we maintained a strong balance sheet and net leverage position, which allows us to take a strategic long term approach to capital allocation. This includes prudently investing in our three attractive businesses, while capitalizing on market dislocations to actively repurchase our common shares, which we consider a compelling value. Turning to our business segments and starting with Branded Products. Sales and Promotional Products grew while Branded Uniform sales with existing customers were down year over year, primarily due to stronger Uniform Program rollouts in the year ago quarter. Overall, our pipeline of business opportunities in branded products is setting new records. Speaker 100:05:33Our order backlog remains strong and our customer retention continues to be over 90%. This gives us line of sight to Q2 being a relatively strong quarter. In addition, we continue to recruit new sales reps, win new accounts and expand wallet share with our existing base. All these actions will enable us, as we have in every crisis, to gain overall market share as we still control only a very small portion of this attractive market as the eighth largest of more than 25,000 distributors. Turning to Healthcare Apparel. Speaker 100:06:07Economic uncertainty is also having an impact, most notably in institutional Healthcare Apparel and in our brick and mortar wholesale related channel. We're investing we'll continue to invest in growing our digital channels, both wholesale and direct to consumer, to continue expanding our single digit market share in this growth industry. We're also spending to drive demand creation for our Wink and our Carhartt licensed brand products, albeit being very strategic while doing so. As for contact centers, while not immune to current macro uncertainty in end markets, this remains our highest margin segment. We've begun to realize the benefits of our first ever sales team through successfully participating and winning RFPs as well as developing a record pipeline. Speaker 100:06:52We will continue to test and utilize cutting edge technology that enhances the customer experience, enables operational efficiency and serves as a competitive advantage, particularly as we target high touch small and medium sized enterprises. With that, I'll turn Speaker 200:07:08the call over to Mike, who will Speaker 100:07:09take us through first quarter results in detail, and Speaker 200:07:11then we'll open it up for Q and A. Mike? Thank you, Michael. And again, welcome to our call. On a year over year basis, our consolidated first quarter revenues were down 1%. Speaker 200:07:23Taking this segment by segment, for Branded Products, revenue was off less than 1%, an improvement over the fourth quarter's '5 percent decline. Consistent with last quarter, sales of promotional products grew while branded uniform sales with existing customers were down year over year, primarily due to stronger uniform program rollouts in the year ago quarter, as well as hiring freezes implemented by some of our customers during the first quarter. For Healthcare Apparel, first quarter revenue was down 7% versus the prior year, reflecting a decline in Institutional Healthcare Apparel. For our Contact Center business segment, we were able to grow revenue 3% with solid retention and growth of existing customers as well as adding new customers benefiting from our internal sales force. Moving on to gross margin. Speaker 200:08:19On a consolidated basis, the gross margin rate was 36.8% for the first quarter, nearly flat sequentially and compared to 39.8% the prior year. SG and A was 36.5% of revenues compared to 35.2% the prior year quarter and consolidated EBITDA came in at $3,500,000 versus $9,600,000 a year earlier. Let's take a closer look by segment. Our branded products gross margin was 32% in the first quarter, which compares to 36.5% a year earlier, primarily the result of sourcing mix that led to higher product costs as well as customer mix that led to lower pricing. SG and A for branded products was up just slightly at 27.1% of revenues and we generated EBITDA of $5,700,000 compared to $9,900,000 in the prior year quarter. Speaker 200:09:22Moving on to Healthcare Apparel, our first quarter gross margin of 37.2 was up sequentially, but compares to 39.4% in the prior year period with both variances reflecting changes in underlying cost of goods. In terms of SG and A for Healthcare Apparel, it was 34.9% of sales, up from 33.6% a year earlier, reflecting expense deleverage on this quarter's sales. The result was $1,500,000 in healthcare apparel EBITDA as compared to $2,600,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. Lastly, on contact centers, we held gross margin essentially flat year over year at 53.6% and SG and A as a percentage of revenues was 45.1%, up 90 basis points due to an increase in professional fees. The resulting EBITDA of $2,800,000 was just slightly below $2,900,000 in the year ago quarter. Speaker 200:10:31Moving further down the income statement, interest expense net was $1,200,000 during the first quarter, improved from $1,800,000 in the year ago quarter due to a lower weighted average interest rate. The net loss for the quarter was approximately $800,000 compared to net income of $3,900,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty four, resulting in a net loss per share of $05 as compared to earnings per diluted share of zero two four dollars last year. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the first quarter with $20,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents, up from $19,000,000 to start the year. We have also been actively repurchasing shares under the Board's authorization that was recently expanded as mentioned on our last call. We consider the repurchases to be a favorable use of cash and completed $3,800,000 worth of share buybacks during the first quarter to repurchase approximately 294,000 shares. Speaker 200:11:40Overall, we ended March with a net leverage ratio of 2.2 times trailing twelve months covenant EBITDA versus 1.7 times to start the year. We had anticipated a first quarter increase in net leverage given the back end weighted nature of our forecast at the beginning of the year and the timing of cash outflows. We remain well within our covenant requirements and continue to maintain significant liquidity to support the growth of our business. Turning to our updated full year outlook. Given the heightened economic uncertainty following the April tariff announcements, we currently expect revenues to be in the range of $550,000,000 to $575,000,000 suggesting year over year growth at the high end of about 2%. Speaker 200:12:34This compares to our prior outlook range of $585,000,000 to $595,000,000 Clearly, the economic uncertainty is resulting in macro volatility that has many companies, including our own clients delaying decision making. Therefore, due to the bottom line sensitivity to tariff and other developments as we move through the year, we are not providing an earnings per share outlook at this time. It is important to reiterate that we have a proven track record of successfully navigating challenging economic times and the significant improvement that we have driven over the last two years in operating cash flow, working capital and net leverage places our company in a position of strength relative to many of our competitors. So while we are managing our cash flow and expenses tightly during these uncertain times, including a reduction of approximately $13,000,000 in annualized budget expenses, which will begin to impact the second quarter. We also remain laser focused on driving growth and leveraging our position of strength to gain market share. Speaker 200:13:50With that operator, Michael and I would be happy to take questions, if you could please open the lines. Operator00:13:56We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Kevin Steinke with Barrington Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:14:40Thanks. Good afternoon. Wanted to just start off by talking about the pipeline. You mentioned some really strong pipelines in both branded products and contact centers despite the uncertain environment that you're operating in. So maybe just talk about what's going well for you there. Speaker 300:15:10It sounds like you're being very aggressive in branded products as you always are and you can take advantage of some opportunities in this environment. So maybe just love to hear more color on your ability to build the pipeline in those businesses. Speaker 100:15:29Thanks, Kevin. It's a great question. Let's start with Branded Products. Branded Products came out of all this noise about tariffs really slugging, recruiting heavily, running webinars on how their customers and prospects could better handle the tariffs to the point social media posting all kinds of white papers and positioning themselves as the expert as they really are the people closest to the ground in China in particular. You have to remember too that because over the years we've created this redundant strategy for manufacturing and sourcing, they have moved even since the first Trump administration a lot of their production to other countries. Speaker 100:16:21There are some products of course like electronics and hard goods, double wall drinkware for stainless steel drinkware that can't be sourced anywhere else but China. But people have choices. They don't have to buy those items because they're going to be so expensive. They can buy apparel and other items soft goods instead. And we certainly have positioned ourselves well for that. Speaker 100:16:42And I invite anybody who's on the call with three to go out to BAMKO's website, there are three webinars out there that describe what people can do to avoid this. And we've gotten a lot of prospects listening to those. Quite frankly, we've even allowed competitors and suppliers and everybody else to listen because we have positioned ourselves as the expert. That has driven a lot of business our way. And we like to say never waste a crisis. Speaker 100:17:08And as you know from your experience Kevin, BAMKO doesn't waste a crisis during COVID. They pivoted greatly. We're pivoting now. And BAMKO is looking great. Their bookings are strong. Speaker 100:17:20Their pipeline is strong. There are things in their pipeline that are hanging out a little bit longer than usual. But it's their pipeline is growing not just because of that. It's also additional opportunities that we wouldn't have had otherwise. Things are happening slower, but they're happening and they're closing. Speaker 100:17:37There's been a lot of upside surprises even in the last week or two within their pipeline. I think that's the current condition and which is why we say we're feeling great about Q2. I think we've got a good line of sight to where Q2 is going to be. What we don't know is while we see the beginning of Q3 being strong, don't know how the back end of Q3 and Q4 are going to be yet. If typically, we're back end weighted and if that holds true again, we should come out of this better than most. Speaker 100:18:09When you get to the contact centers, we built the sales team. They are bringing in more opportunities. And while we expect we pulled all of our customers, we expect a little bit of fall off here and there later on in the year in particular. If this continues, we also are bringing on customers at a better clip than we have in the past. So we're feeling like we're going to come out of this better than most. Speaker 100:18:43And unfortunately, don't know what the next moves are going to be from Washington. And we presume that we'll soften our stance as time goes on instead of hardening it. And most of forecasting takes that into account. Speaker 300:19:06All right. That's very helpful color. Appreciate it. And so with the reduced revenue guidance, like you said, you feel good about the second quarter. So are you just trying to build some conservatism into the second half, I guess, given the more limited visibility around that traditional ramp up in the second half? Speaker 100:19:35I believe we'll still have a ramp up in the second half. Yes, of course we're building conservatism on the current environment of not knowing who's going to say what next. We're just being trying to be extremely cautious. And we're managing our costs within the business on an extremely conservative basis also. Speaker 300:19:58Okay. I guess lastly, can you just discuss just from a cost perspective, again, maybe a review as things stand out anyway, your exposure from a cost perspective to tariffs and your ability to pass on through price increases if needed? Speaker 100:20:26It's by business. You got to look at it. So we'll pass on increases that we incur to most of our customers. We're permitted to do so either by contract or by on a PO by PO basis. We're going to try to recoup as much of the tariff as possible through price increases. Speaker 100:20:51And we believe that we'll have that well under control. But obviously, there may be some timing issues. We're not always allowed every moment to raise sometimes by contract on a certain date or within a certain amount of notice. You have to keep in mind that we're a replenishment business and we already have containers coming in that are at the higher tariffs. So we've got to be ever aware of that. Speaker 100:21:19And I think our customers are certainly hearing that from their other vendors. So we're not it's not as if it's a surprise to them. Now when you get to healthcare apparel, that's the branded products outlook. When you get to healthcare apparel, it's the same. If tariffs exist, we've got to pass them on. Speaker 100:21:48In the direct to consumer business, we just raise our prices directly to consumers. If it's direct through the wholesale channels, we will raise our prices. If on the institutional side of the business, which is particularly slow right now, because they're more in a wait and see mode and not have there's no compelling reason for them to have to move forward quickly. They'll take a much slower approach to this. They'll wait and see flesh out and see what happens with the tariffs before they start buying again. Speaker 100:22:20They have been impacted somewhat by the institutional side, has been impacted by some the pullbacks by the government on funding of research and so on. But our main products scrubs in particular are not generally impacted that much by research, but they are to some extent. It's more lab coats and different other types of protective gear that are impacted by that. In the contact centers, where we have increases is going to be in only a few places really and it's more how our customers are impacted by increases they have on the products that we're supporting in the call center. But I feel like we'll come out of this okay. Speaker 100:23:08And of course, our guidance with respect to the top line is how many of the things can't we replace. When you look at pulling our guidance down that far, it really has to do with the items within branded products that can't be sourced elsewhere, which I spoke about earlier such as electronics and some of the injection molded plastic items and the steel wall drinkware. But again, we're taking a conservative approach to this. It could very well be we're able to take all those customers who want those items and get them into other items in other countries that will be less impacted. Speaker 300:23:52Thank you. Appreciate all the insight. I'll turn it back over. Operator00:23:58The next question comes from Jim Sidoti with Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:24:04Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. So it seems like customers react pretty quickly when the tariffs are announced. Should deals be made with other countries including China? How fast do you think customers would react the other way? Speaker 100:24:25It's an interesting question. I think one of the issues that the entire country is faced with Jim is that the analyses we've seen on even if tomorrow Washington said, hey, we're kidding. It would take six to nine months from today before we'd see things getting closely back to normal because the supply chain has been so disrupted. Factories in a lot of places have let their workers go. They've run their lines out. Speaker 100:24:51They let them go. They're not taking out any new business. They got to bring them all back. It's kind of like post Chinese New Year where it takes a month to get everybody back to work and then ramp back up takes another month. And then logistically, container ships are all in the wrong places. Speaker 100:25:08They're not sitting in China right now. They're elsewhere. So they got to reposition them. They got to get all the containers that on whatever it was called was called Independence Day or have to sent to The U. S. Speaker 100:25:24And that ties up a lot of containers with not enough ships to carry them. So we've seen some analyses from pretty smart people that say, we could be in for some supply chain disruption, not just in our business and every business manufacturing outside The United States and more offshore than nearshore for the next year, year and a half. Speaker 400:25:52Right. And you mentioned that there's you think you can implement about $13,000,000 in cost savings on an annualized basis. Where do you get that? What aligns do you think that impacts? Speaker 200:26:07Hi, Jim, it's Mike. So these are all these cuts would be within our SG and A expense line and it's really looking across all of our segments and a number of different types of expenses where we just find opportunities for us to become more efficient and leaner. So we're very comfortable that the cuts that we've taken will not impact our ability to continue to grow the business or again should as things become more clear and we hopefully get on the other end of these high tariffs, we'll still be in a position to still grow and drive the business. So again, think largely operational efficiencies again across all three of our segments. Speaker 100:26:58Keep in mind, Jim, I'll jump in that we were staffed to support a $5.85 to $595,000,000 business. As we realized that it will be a number less than that, we reduced accordingly. And that's really the gist of it. Speaker 400:27:16Okay. And then the last one for me. I know you don't want to get too detailed on guidance, but for the quarter that just ended, you had a gross margin around 37%. Is that a good proxy for the rest of the year? Speaker 200:27:33Jim, I would say, if you look at the first quarter, clearly the branded products margin rate was down to last year and down versus the trends. I'm sure you know, we would expect under, I'll say, normal circumstances for that margin to rebound as we move throughout the year. Again, putting aside what we're talking about in terms of potential impacts as it relates to China and tariff and whatnot under normal circumstances, we would expect that to rebound. In the first quarter, we had some sourcing cost mix, some pricing mix with some larger orders year over year that created a decrease in the first quarter, and we wouldn't anticipate that in the second quarter. Speaker 400:28:16Okay. All right. Thank you. Operator00:28:21The next question comes from David Marsh with Singular Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:28:27Hey, guys. Thank you very much for taking the question. First one to ask, just looking at the cash flow statement here and seeing you guys had a pretty big reduction in AP and liabilities, current liabilities. Is that just a seasonal impact, Mike, just kind of a typical seasonal trend there? Speaker 200:28:54It more of a seasonal impact in the first quarter. We typically have we'll have larger payments associated with bonus payments for the prior year, payments that we make with some of our benefit plans. So those again tend to be more weighted there in the first quarter, which you can see really in both years, we had both first quarters, we had significant declines in that account in those accounts year over year. Speaker 500:29:27Got you. So as that washes out, over the course of the year, that will be less of a drag on cash flow and allow you to generate a little bit more operating cash flow throughout the course of the year, right? Speaker 200:29:42Sure. That would be our expectation. Speaker 400:29:45Right. Speaker 500:29:46Okay. And then just kind of turning to the P and L side, I guess, you were able to hold SG and A pretty steady year over year really. Can you give us a little bit more insight on where you think you might be able to realize some savings there? Just to help us understand kind of timing and how that would flow through? Speaker 200:30:13Sure. Well, as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, we executed approximately $13,000,000 in annualized savings. We put those measures in place in the April timeframe. So we'll begin to see the benefit of those cuts starting here in the second quarter. There are certain reductions, whether it's contractual or just periods where we need to transition where some of those savings will materialize a little bit later in the year, but the vast majority will start to benefit the second quarter and again hold throughout the balance of the year. Speaker 500:30:55Okay. And then just lastly from me, as things get a little bit choppier in the water here, you guys did actually do a small acquisition last quarter, I believe it was. And you're pretty well positioned from a liquidity perspective to perhaps capitalize on some opportunities should they come up. Are you starting to see anything where there are opportunities to make some acquisitions? And what space would you really focus first and foremost as you evaluate those opportunities? Speaker 100:31:35First and foremost, right now we're conserving cash. We don't know what the future going to bring. So we have put while we're still talking to potential companies about joining us, we would not right now entertain closing any acquisitions until we have more clarity around what's happening from a tariff standpoint. We believe that the there's going to be a very rich field out there of acquisition opportunities. Once this is all done there are people competitors who are really suffering out there who were 100% reliant on China or vendors who were buying suppliers who were buying Chinese product and selling it to them. Speaker 100:32:26So we believe we're going be well better positioned than anybody else to take advantage of that. On the call center side, we're still looking for geography of lower cost and we're doing a lot of exploration there whether we do that through acquisition or wind up doing it on its The jury is still out. We're still exploring both those possibilities. And right now though from an acquisition standpoint, there would have to be a really compelling reason to do one. And I would tell you, have to be immediately accretive and have to be bought at the right price. Speaker 500:33:02Got it. Got it. All right. Well, thank you very much guys and wish you the best for the balance of the year. Speaker 100:33:08Thank you. Operator00:33:10The next question comes from Michael Kupinski with Noble Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:33:17Hi, Jacob Muchler on for Michael Kupinski. You already partially addressed this, but would you be able to provide a few more comments on the price elasticity of branded products and how you're thinking about profitability in the segment compared to maybe eating more of those costs and growing market share? Thanks. Speaker 100:33:40Yes. Let's start with the Branded Products business. The preponderance of their business is branded merchandise as opposed to branded uniforms. And branded merchandise is basically on an order by order basis. So we're pricing in the tariff. Speaker 100:33:56Somebody wants product from China and we do have customers who actually still want product from China even with the 145% tariffs and we're happy to serve them. But somebody who wants, as I said, other products will have to go to another country. We are all of our confirmations of purchase orders and all of our correspondence with customers allows us to build in tariffs as they happen. So even if their orders on the water and tariffs change, we can put a tariff price on that order. So we expect to recoup most of that. Speaker 100:34:34I would say the lion's share of that with our clients. On the Uniform side, we have the same language in most of our contracts. We started changing them during the first Trump administration. And most of our contracts that aren't evergreen contracts have that language in it. And we are going back to customers and saying we're raising your prices for the products that come from China. Speaker 100:34:57At the same time, we're trying to move your products to other places. We don't have most of our products are not made in China, but the ones that are, we will attempt to move. And almost without exception, unless it's a very specialized product on the apparel side, we should be able to move it out. As I said earlier, there could be timing issues of when we raise prices versus when we're actually able or when we want to raise prices versus when we're actually able to do it. But we should be fine on this. Speaker 100:35:30I think it's very elastic, the answer to your question. And I think our customers are not surprised when we're coming back to them and saying, look, there's a tariff on this. You want it and by contract you have to take it. And by PO you have to take it already. And if you don't want that, let's go find you something somewhere that suits your budget. Speaker 100:35:51And it may be a lower priced item with still a high tariff on it, so they wind up paying the same thing. But I think there's a ton of flexibility there. Speaker 600:36:01Got you. Thanks. All my other questions have been addressed. Thanks for your time. Speaker 100:36:06Thank you. Operator00:36:11This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Michael Benstock for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:36:20Thank you, operator, and we appreciate everyone being on the call. I want to thank our loyal customers and our dedicated employees for their tremendous efforts. As shareholders, you can rest assured we're making the most of current macro conditions while keeping our eye on the prize which is compelling long term outlook for each of our three attractive businesses. We'll keep you updated as we move through the year and please don't hesitate to reach out with any additional questions. Thanks again for your interest in SGC and enjoy the evening. Operator00:36:52The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Despite macro headwinds – including rising inflation, interest rates and escalating China tariffs – the company leverages its redundant manufacturing and diversified three-segment strategy to manage sourcing challenges and economic uncertainty. First-quarter revenues held nearly flat year-over-year with a net loss per share of $0.05 (versus EPS $0.24 prior year), driven by lower gross margins from a mix shift away from higher-margin orders. The Branded Products segment saw growing promotional sales offset by softer uniform rollouts, but benefits from a record pipeline, >90% customer retention and strong order backlog point to a robust Q2. Healthcare Apparel revenues fell 7% in Q1 due to institutional and wholesale softness, prompting increased investment in digital channels and targeted marketing for Wink and Carhartt brands to expand market share. Full-year revenue guidance has been lowered to $550–575 million (up to 2% growth), with no EPS outlook provided amid tariff-driven volatility, while cutting $13 million in annualized expenses starting Q2 to preserve profitability. A.I. generated. May contain errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallSuperior Group of Companies Q1 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Superior Group of Companies Earnings HeadlinesWhat is Barrington Research's Estimate for SGC Q2 Earnings?May 17, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comBarrington Research Issues Pessimistic Forecast for Superior Group of Companies (NASDAQ:SGC) Stock PriceMay 16, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comGold Hits New Highs as Global Markets SpiralWhen Trump took office in 2017, gold was just $1,100 an ounce. By the time he left, it had soared to $1,839. Now… as new tariffs take effect, gold is breaking records again. 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Email Address About Superior Group of CompaniesSuperior Group of Companies (NASDAQ:SGC) manufactures and sells apparel and accessories in the United States and internationally. It operates through three segments: Branded Products, Healthcare Apparel, and Contact Centers. The Branded Products segment produces and sells customized merchandising solutions, promotional products, and branded uniform to chain retailer, food service, entertainment, technology, transportation, and other industries under BAMKO and HPI brands. The Healthcare Apparel segment manufactures and sells healthcare apparel, such as scrubs, lab coats, protective apparel, and patient gowns under the Fashion Seal Healthcare, CID Resources and Wink, and Carhartt brand names. This segment sells healthcare service apparel to healthcare laundries, dealers, distributors, and physical and e-commerce retailers. The Contact Centers segment offers outsourced, nearshore business process outsourcing, and contact and call-center support services. The company was formerly known as Superior Uniform Group, Inc. and changed its name to Superior Group of Companies, Inc. in May 2018. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to the Superior Group of Companies First Quarter twenty twenty five Conference Call. With us today are Michael Benstock, Chief Executive Officer and Mike Kempel, Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. This call may contain forward looking statements regarding the company's plans, initiatives and strategies and the anticipated financial performance of the company, including but not limited to sales and profitability. Such statements are based upon management's current expectations, projections, estimates and assumptions. Operator00:00:39Words such as expect, believe, anticipate, think, outlook, hope and variations of such words and similar expressions identify such forward looking statements. Forward looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause future results to differ materially from those suggested by forward looking statements. Such risks and uncertainties are further disclosed in the company's periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including, but not limited to, the company's most recent annual report on Form 10 ks and the quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. Shareholders, potential investors and other readers are urged to consider these factors carefully in evaluating the forward looking statements made herein and cautioned not to place undue reliance on such forward looking statements. The company does not undertake to update the forward looking statements except as required by law. Operator00:01:45And now I'll turn the call over to Michael Benstock. Speaker 100:01:50Thank you, and welcome everyone to today's call. As usual, I'll start with a review of consolidated financial highlights for the first quarter, including a discussion around our three business segments and current market conditions. Mike will then walk us through our financial results in more detail, then we'd be happy to take your questions. So let's get started. Our customer buying hesitancy persisted through the quarter. Speaker 100:02:13On top of the uncertainty around inflation and interest rates, the recently introduced tariffs that have already been revised a few times, in particular, the ever escalating China tariff rate, not only further slowed customer decision making, but has made sourcing of our products somewhat of a challenge. The good news is that SGC has successfully navigated numerous economic challenges in the past, and we entered 2025 in a strong financial position to manage through the current economic uncertainty. Of course, we have no line of sight to what the next move by our executive branch will be and what countermoves will take place in this tit for tat environment. As many of you are aware, for decades, we have had a redundant manufacturing and sourcing strategy in place for most of what we produce. This competitive strategy has helped us greatly in the past no matter the challenging environment. Speaker 100:03:07Let me point out for those of you who are new to our story that we are not heavily invested in China manufacturing or sourcing our finished products for our Healthcare segment or, of course, for our call center segment. But a handful of our customers' products that we support in our call centers will be impacted by high tariffs on China made products brought into The USA, and that will ultimately impact their businesses, which could have a trickle down impact to us. It is also true that some of our customers could competitively benefit from high tariffs on products from China or elsewhere. During these challenging times, we have the advantage of leveraging the diversification of our three business segments combined with our multiple sources of supply. We remain focused on what we can control, which you can well imagine is centered on strong cost management. Speaker 100:03:57The costs we've recently eliminated from the business that Mike will speak to will support even stronger profitability as demand normalizes. Taking a look at our consolidated first quarter results, we held revenue nearly flat year over year despite the macro headwinds and lapping a 6% increase in the first quarter a year ago. Growth in our contact center business was offset by a slight decline in branded products, our largest segment, and a decline in healthcare apparel. Also on a consolidated basis, we recorded a first quarter net loss per share of $05 relative to earnings per diluted share of $0.24 in the prior year period. The profit decline was primarily the result of lower gross margins from sales mix changes that included fewer orders from higher margin customers. Speaker 100:04:49Despite the quarterly net loss, we maintained a strong balance sheet and net leverage position, which allows us to take a strategic long term approach to capital allocation. This includes prudently investing in our three attractive businesses, while capitalizing on market dislocations to actively repurchase our common shares, which we consider a compelling value. Turning to our business segments and starting with Branded Products. Sales and Promotional Products grew while Branded Uniform sales with existing customers were down year over year, primarily due to stronger Uniform Program rollouts in the year ago quarter. Overall, our pipeline of business opportunities in branded products is setting new records. Speaker 100:05:33Our order backlog remains strong and our customer retention continues to be over 90%. This gives us line of sight to Q2 being a relatively strong quarter. In addition, we continue to recruit new sales reps, win new accounts and expand wallet share with our existing base. All these actions will enable us, as we have in every crisis, to gain overall market share as we still control only a very small portion of this attractive market as the eighth largest of more than 25,000 distributors. Turning to Healthcare Apparel. Speaker 100:06:07Economic uncertainty is also having an impact, most notably in institutional Healthcare Apparel and in our brick and mortar wholesale related channel. We're investing we'll continue to invest in growing our digital channels, both wholesale and direct to consumer, to continue expanding our single digit market share in this growth industry. We're also spending to drive demand creation for our Wink and our Carhartt licensed brand products, albeit being very strategic while doing so. As for contact centers, while not immune to current macro uncertainty in end markets, this remains our highest margin segment. We've begun to realize the benefits of our first ever sales team through successfully participating and winning RFPs as well as developing a record pipeline. Speaker 100:06:52We will continue to test and utilize cutting edge technology that enhances the customer experience, enables operational efficiency and serves as a competitive advantage, particularly as we target high touch small and medium sized enterprises. With that, I'll turn Speaker 200:07:08the call over to Mike, who will Speaker 100:07:09take us through first quarter results in detail, and Speaker 200:07:11then we'll open it up for Q and A. Mike? Thank you, Michael. And again, welcome to our call. On a year over year basis, our consolidated first quarter revenues were down 1%. Speaker 200:07:23Taking this segment by segment, for Branded Products, revenue was off less than 1%, an improvement over the fourth quarter's '5 percent decline. Consistent with last quarter, sales of promotional products grew while branded uniform sales with existing customers were down year over year, primarily due to stronger uniform program rollouts in the year ago quarter, as well as hiring freezes implemented by some of our customers during the first quarter. For Healthcare Apparel, first quarter revenue was down 7% versus the prior year, reflecting a decline in Institutional Healthcare Apparel. For our Contact Center business segment, we were able to grow revenue 3% with solid retention and growth of existing customers as well as adding new customers benefiting from our internal sales force. Moving on to gross margin. Speaker 200:08:19On a consolidated basis, the gross margin rate was 36.8% for the first quarter, nearly flat sequentially and compared to 39.8% the prior year. SG and A was 36.5% of revenues compared to 35.2% the prior year quarter and consolidated EBITDA came in at $3,500,000 versus $9,600,000 a year earlier. Let's take a closer look by segment. Our branded products gross margin was 32% in the first quarter, which compares to 36.5% a year earlier, primarily the result of sourcing mix that led to higher product costs as well as customer mix that led to lower pricing. SG and A for branded products was up just slightly at 27.1% of revenues and we generated EBITDA of $5,700,000 compared to $9,900,000 in the prior year quarter. Speaker 200:09:22Moving on to Healthcare Apparel, our first quarter gross margin of 37.2 was up sequentially, but compares to 39.4% in the prior year period with both variances reflecting changes in underlying cost of goods. In terms of SG and A for Healthcare Apparel, it was 34.9% of sales, up from 33.6% a year earlier, reflecting expense deleverage on this quarter's sales. The result was $1,500,000 in healthcare apparel EBITDA as compared to $2,600,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. Lastly, on contact centers, we held gross margin essentially flat year over year at 53.6% and SG and A as a percentage of revenues was 45.1%, up 90 basis points due to an increase in professional fees. The resulting EBITDA of $2,800,000 was just slightly below $2,900,000 in the year ago quarter. Speaker 200:10:31Moving further down the income statement, interest expense net was $1,200,000 during the first quarter, improved from $1,800,000 in the year ago quarter due to a lower weighted average interest rate. The net loss for the quarter was approximately $800,000 compared to net income of $3,900,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty four, resulting in a net loss per share of $05 as compared to earnings per diluted share of zero two four dollars last year. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the first quarter with $20,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents, up from $19,000,000 to start the year. We have also been actively repurchasing shares under the Board's authorization that was recently expanded as mentioned on our last call. We consider the repurchases to be a favorable use of cash and completed $3,800,000 worth of share buybacks during the first quarter to repurchase approximately 294,000 shares. Speaker 200:11:40Overall, we ended March with a net leverage ratio of 2.2 times trailing twelve months covenant EBITDA versus 1.7 times to start the year. We had anticipated a first quarter increase in net leverage given the back end weighted nature of our forecast at the beginning of the year and the timing of cash outflows. We remain well within our covenant requirements and continue to maintain significant liquidity to support the growth of our business. Turning to our updated full year outlook. Given the heightened economic uncertainty following the April tariff announcements, we currently expect revenues to be in the range of $550,000,000 to $575,000,000 suggesting year over year growth at the high end of about 2%. Speaker 200:12:34This compares to our prior outlook range of $585,000,000 to $595,000,000 Clearly, the economic uncertainty is resulting in macro volatility that has many companies, including our own clients delaying decision making. Therefore, due to the bottom line sensitivity to tariff and other developments as we move through the year, we are not providing an earnings per share outlook at this time. It is important to reiterate that we have a proven track record of successfully navigating challenging economic times and the significant improvement that we have driven over the last two years in operating cash flow, working capital and net leverage places our company in a position of strength relative to many of our competitors. So while we are managing our cash flow and expenses tightly during these uncertain times, including a reduction of approximately $13,000,000 in annualized budget expenses, which will begin to impact the second quarter. We also remain laser focused on driving growth and leveraging our position of strength to gain market share. Speaker 200:13:50With that operator, Michael and I would be happy to take questions, if you could please open the lines. Operator00:13:56We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Kevin Steinke with Barrington Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:14:40Thanks. Good afternoon. Wanted to just start off by talking about the pipeline. You mentioned some really strong pipelines in both branded products and contact centers despite the uncertain environment that you're operating in. So maybe just talk about what's going well for you there. Speaker 300:15:10It sounds like you're being very aggressive in branded products as you always are and you can take advantage of some opportunities in this environment. So maybe just love to hear more color on your ability to build the pipeline in those businesses. Speaker 100:15:29Thanks, Kevin. It's a great question. Let's start with Branded Products. Branded Products came out of all this noise about tariffs really slugging, recruiting heavily, running webinars on how their customers and prospects could better handle the tariffs to the point social media posting all kinds of white papers and positioning themselves as the expert as they really are the people closest to the ground in China in particular. You have to remember too that because over the years we've created this redundant strategy for manufacturing and sourcing, they have moved even since the first Trump administration a lot of their production to other countries. Speaker 100:16:21There are some products of course like electronics and hard goods, double wall drinkware for stainless steel drinkware that can't be sourced anywhere else but China. But people have choices. They don't have to buy those items because they're going to be so expensive. They can buy apparel and other items soft goods instead. And we certainly have positioned ourselves well for that. Speaker 100:16:42And I invite anybody who's on the call with three to go out to BAMKO's website, there are three webinars out there that describe what people can do to avoid this. And we've gotten a lot of prospects listening to those. Quite frankly, we've even allowed competitors and suppliers and everybody else to listen because we have positioned ourselves as the expert. That has driven a lot of business our way. And we like to say never waste a crisis. Speaker 100:17:08And as you know from your experience Kevin, BAMKO doesn't waste a crisis during COVID. They pivoted greatly. We're pivoting now. And BAMKO is looking great. Their bookings are strong. Speaker 100:17:20Their pipeline is strong. There are things in their pipeline that are hanging out a little bit longer than usual. But it's their pipeline is growing not just because of that. It's also additional opportunities that we wouldn't have had otherwise. Things are happening slower, but they're happening and they're closing. Speaker 100:17:37There's been a lot of upside surprises even in the last week or two within their pipeline. I think that's the current condition and which is why we say we're feeling great about Q2. I think we've got a good line of sight to where Q2 is going to be. What we don't know is while we see the beginning of Q3 being strong, don't know how the back end of Q3 and Q4 are going to be yet. If typically, we're back end weighted and if that holds true again, we should come out of this better than most. Speaker 100:18:09When you get to the contact centers, we built the sales team. They are bringing in more opportunities. And while we expect we pulled all of our customers, we expect a little bit of fall off here and there later on in the year in particular. If this continues, we also are bringing on customers at a better clip than we have in the past. So we're feeling like we're going to come out of this better than most. Speaker 100:18:43And unfortunately, don't know what the next moves are going to be from Washington. And we presume that we'll soften our stance as time goes on instead of hardening it. And most of forecasting takes that into account. Speaker 300:19:06All right. That's very helpful color. Appreciate it. And so with the reduced revenue guidance, like you said, you feel good about the second quarter. So are you just trying to build some conservatism into the second half, I guess, given the more limited visibility around that traditional ramp up in the second half? Speaker 100:19:35I believe we'll still have a ramp up in the second half. Yes, of course we're building conservatism on the current environment of not knowing who's going to say what next. We're just being trying to be extremely cautious. And we're managing our costs within the business on an extremely conservative basis also. Speaker 300:19:58Okay. I guess lastly, can you just discuss just from a cost perspective, again, maybe a review as things stand out anyway, your exposure from a cost perspective to tariffs and your ability to pass on through price increases if needed? Speaker 100:20:26It's by business. You got to look at it. So we'll pass on increases that we incur to most of our customers. We're permitted to do so either by contract or by on a PO by PO basis. We're going to try to recoup as much of the tariff as possible through price increases. Speaker 100:20:51And we believe that we'll have that well under control. But obviously, there may be some timing issues. We're not always allowed every moment to raise sometimes by contract on a certain date or within a certain amount of notice. You have to keep in mind that we're a replenishment business and we already have containers coming in that are at the higher tariffs. So we've got to be ever aware of that. Speaker 100:21:19And I think our customers are certainly hearing that from their other vendors. So we're not it's not as if it's a surprise to them. Now when you get to healthcare apparel, that's the branded products outlook. When you get to healthcare apparel, it's the same. If tariffs exist, we've got to pass them on. Speaker 100:21:48In the direct to consumer business, we just raise our prices directly to consumers. If it's direct through the wholesale channels, we will raise our prices. If on the institutional side of the business, which is particularly slow right now, because they're more in a wait and see mode and not have there's no compelling reason for them to have to move forward quickly. They'll take a much slower approach to this. They'll wait and see flesh out and see what happens with the tariffs before they start buying again. Speaker 100:22:20They have been impacted somewhat by the institutional side, has been impacted by some the pullbacks by the government on funding of research and so on. But our main products scrubs in particular are not generally impacted that much by research, but they are to some extent. It's more lab coats and different other types of protective gear that are impacted by that. In the contact centers, where we have increases is going to be in only a few places really and it's more how our customers are impacted by increases they have on the products that we're supporting in the call center. But I feel like we'll come out of this okay. Speaker 100:23:08And of course, our guidance with respect to the top line is how many of the things can't we replace. When you look at pulling our guidance down that far, it really has to do with the items within branded products that can't be sourced elsewhere, which I spoke about earlier such as electronics and some of the injection molded plastic items and the steel wall drinkware. But again, we're taking a conservative approach to this. It could very well be we're able to take all those customers who want those items and get them into other items in other countries that will be less impacted. Speaker 300:23:52Thank you. Appreciate all the insight. I'll turn it back over. Operator00:23:58The next question comes from Jim Sidoti with Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:24:04Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. So it seems like customers react pretty quickly when the tariffs are announced. Should deals be made with other countries including China? How fast do you think customers would react the other way? Speaker 100:24:25It's an interesting question. I think one of the issues that the entire country is faced with Jim is that the analyses we've seen on even if tomorrow Washington said, hey, we're kidding. It would take six to nine months from today before we'd see things getting closely back to normal because the supply chain has been so disrupted. Factories in a lot of places have let their workers go. They've run their lines out. Speaker 100:24:51They let them go. They're not taking out any new business. They got to bring them all back. It's kind of like post Chinese New Year where it takes a month to get everybody back to work and then ramp back up takes another month. And then logistically, container ships are all in the wrong places. Speaker 100:25:08They're not sitting in China right now. They're elsewhere. So they got to reposition them. They got to get all the containers that on whatever it was called was called Independence Day or have to sent to The U. S. Speaker 100:25:24And that ties up a lot of containers with not enough ships to carry them. So we've seen some analyses from pretty smart people that say, we could be in for some supply chain disruption, not just in our business and every business manufacturing outside The United States and more offshore than nearshore for the next year, year and a half. Speaker 400:25:52Right. And you mentioned that there's you think you can implement about $13,000,000 in cost savings on an annualized basis. Where do you get that? What aligns do you think that impacts? Speaker 200:26:07Hi, Jim, it's Mike. So these are all these cuts would be within our SG and A expense line and it's really looking across all of our segments and a number of different types of expenses where we just find opportunities for us to become more efficient and leaner. So we're very comfortable that the cuts that we've taken will not impact our ability to continue to grow the business or again should as things become more clear and we hopefully get on the other end of these high tariffs, we'll still be in a position to still grow and drive the business. So again, think largely operational efficiencies again across all three of our segments. Speaker 100:26:58Keep in mind, Jim, I'll jump in that we were staffed to support a $5.85 to $595,000,000 business. As we realized that it will be a number less than that, we reduced accordingly. And that's really the gist of it. Speaker 400:27:16Okay. And then the last one for me. I know you don't want to get too detailed on guidance, but for the quarter that just ended, you had a gross margin around 37%. Is that a good proxy for the rest of the year? Speaker 200:27:33Jim, I would say, if you look at the first quarter, clearly the branded products margin rate was down to last year and down versus the trends. I'm sure you know, we would expect under, I'll say, normal circumstances for that margin to rebound as we move throughout the year. Again, putting aside what we're talking about in terms of potential impacts as it relates to China and tariff and whatnot under normal circumstances, we would expect that to rebound. In the first quarter, we had some sourcing cost mix, some pricing mix with some larger orders year over year that created a decrease in the first quarter, and we wouldn't anticipate that in the second quarter. Speaker 400:28:16Okay. All right. Thank you. Operator00:28:21The next question comes from David Marsh with Singular Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:28:27Hey, guys. Thank you very much for taking the question. First one to ask, just looking at the cash flow statement here and seeing you guys had a pretty big reduction in AP and liabilities, current liabilities. Is that just a seasonal impact, Mike, just kind of a typical seasonal trend there? Speaker 200:28:54It more of a seasonal impact in the first quarter. We typically have we'll have larger payments associated with bonus payments for the prior year, payments that we make with some of our benefit plans. So those again tend to be more weighted there in the first quarter, which you can see really in both years, we had both first quarters, we had significant declines in that account in those accounts year over year. Speaker 500:29:27Got you. So as that washes out, over the course of the year, that will be less of a drag on cash flow and allow you to generate a little bit more operating cash flow throughout the course of the year, right? Speaker 200:29:42Sure. That would be our expectation. Speaker 400:29:45Right. Speaker 500:29:46Okay. And then just kind of turning to the P and L side, I guess, you were able to hold SG and A pretty steady year over year really. Can you give us a little bit more insight on where you think you might be able to realize some savings there? Just to help us understand kind of timing and how that would flow through? Speaker 200:30:13Sure. Well, as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, we executed approximately $13,000,000 in annualized savings. We put those measures in place in the April timeframe. So we'll begin to see the benefit of those cuts starting here in the second quarter. There are certain reductions, whether it's contractual or just periods where we need to transition where some of those savings will materialize a little bit later in the year, but the vast majority will start to benefit the second quarter and again hold throughout the balance of the year. Speaker 500:30:55Okay. And then just lastly from me, as things get a little bit choppier in the water here, you guys did actually do a small acquisition last quarter, I believe it was. And you're pretty well positioned from a liquidity perspective to perhaps capitalize on some opportunities should they come up. Are you starting to see anything where there are opportunities to make some acquisitions? And what space would you really focus first and foremost as you evaluate those opportunities? Speaker 100:31:35First and foremost, right now we're conserving cash. We don't know what the future going to bring. So we have put while we're still talking to potential companies about joining us, we would not right now entertain closing any acquisitions until we have more clarity around what's happening from a tariff standpoint. We believe that the there's going to be a very rich field out there of acquisition opportunities. Once this is all done there are people competitors who are really suffering out there who were 100% reliant on China or vendors who were buying suppliers who were buying Chinese product and selling it to them. Speaker 100:32:26So we believe we're going be well better positioned than anybody else to take advantage of that. On the call center side, we're still looking for geography of lower cost and we're doing a lot of exploration there whether we do that through acquisition or wind up doing it on its The jury is still out. We're still exploring both those possibilities. And right now though from an acquisition standpoint, there would have to be a really compelling reason to do one. And I would tell you, have to be immediately accretive and have to be bought at the right price. Speaker 500:33:02Got it. Got it. All right. Well, thank you very much guys and wish you the best for the balance of the year. Speaker 100:33:08Thank you. Operator00:33:10The next question comes from Michael Kupinski with Noble Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:33:17Hi, Jacob Muchler on for Michael Kupinski. You already partially addressed this, but would you be able to provide a few more comments on the price elasticity of branded products and how you're thinking about profitability in the segment compared to maybe eating more of those costs and growing market share? Thanks. Speaker 100:33:40Yes. Let's start with the Branded Products business. The preponderance of their business is branded merchandise as opposed to branded uniforms. And branded merchandise is basically on an order by order basis. So we're pricing in the tariff. Speaker 100:33:56Somebody wants product from China and we do have customers who actually still want product from China even with the 145% tariffs and we're happy to serve them. But somebody who wants, as I said, other products will have to go to another country. We are all of our confirmations of purchase orders and all of our correspondence with customers allows us to build in tariffs as they happen. So even if their orders on the water and tariffs change, we can put a tariff price on that order. So we expect to recoup most of that. Speaker 100:34:34I would say the lion's share of that with our clients. On the Uniform side, we have the same language in most of our contracts. We started changing them during the first Trump administration. And most of our contracts that aren't evergreen contracts have that language in it. And we are going back to customers and saying we're raising your prices for the products that come from China. Speaker 100:34:57At the same time, we're trying to move your products to other places. We don't have most of our products are not made in China, but the ones that are, we will attempt to move. And almost without exception, unless it's a very specialized product on the apparel side, we should be able to move it out. As I said earlier, there could be timing issues of when we raise prices versus when we're actually able or when we want to raise prices versus when we're actually able to do it. But we should be fine on this. Speaker 100:35:30I think it's very elastic, the answer to your question. And I think our customers are not surprised when we're coming back to them and saying, look, there's a tariff on this. You want it and by contract you have to take it. And by PO you have to take it already. And if you don't want that, let's go find you something somewhere that suits your budget. Speaker 100:35:51And it may be a lower priced item with still a high tariff on it, so they wind up paying the same thing. But I think there's a ton of flexibility there. Speaker 600:36:01Got you. Thanks. All my other questions have been addressed. Thanks for your time. Speaker 100:36:06Thank you. Operator00:36:11This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Michael Benstock for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:36:20Thank you, operator, and we appreciate everyone being on the call. I want to thank our loyal customers and our dedicated employees for their tremendous efforts. As shareholders, you can rest assured we're making the most of current macro conditions while keeping our eye on the prize which is compelling long term outlook for each of our three attractive businesses. We'll keep you updated as we move through the year and please don't hesitate to reach out with any additional questions. Thanks again for your interest in SGC and enjoy the evening. Operator00:36:52The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by