U.S. Global Investors Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Q3 Financial Results: Assets under management declined to $1.4 billion, operating revenues fell 19% year-over-year to $2.1 million, resulting in a net loss of $832,000 (3¢ per share).
  • Thematic Smart Beta 2.0 Strategy: The firm’s rigorously back-tested quant models continue to drive outperformance in its JETS airline ETF, WAR defense ETF, and gold funds after fees.
  • Shareholder Return Initiatives: US Global Investors repurchased 187,987 shares in the quarter, pays a 4.13% monthly dividend, and offers a total shareholder yield of 10.53% through buybacks and dividends.
  • Bullish on Gold and Bitcoin: Management plans to redeploy convertible debenture proceeds into the Bitcoin ecosystem and increase exposure to undervalued gold and Hive shares as regulatory and central bank tailwinds emerge.
  • Marketing and Distribution: The company is expanding its digital footprint with original video content on YouTube and TikTok, writing on Substack, and attending RIA and resource conferences to attract new assets.
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U.S. Global Investors Q3 2025
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Holly Schoenfeldt
Holly Schoenfeldt
Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter at U.S. Global Investors

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for our webcast announcing U. S. Global Investors Results for the Third Quarter of Fiscal Year twenty twenty five. As you can see on Slide number two, the presenters for today's program are Frank Holmes, U. S.

Holly Schoenfeldt
Holly Schoenfeldt
Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter at U.S. Global Investors

Global Investors, CEO and Chief Investment Officer Lisa Callicotte, Chief Financial Officer and myself, Holly Schoenfeldt, Director of Marketing. Moving on to Slide number three. During this webcast, we may make forward looking statements about our relative business outlook. Any forward looking statements and all other statements made during this webcast that don't pertain to historical facts are subject to risks and uncertainties that may materially affect actual results. Please refer to our press release and corresponding Form 10 Q filing for more detail on factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from any described today in forward looking statements.

Holly Schoenfeldt
Holly Schoenfeldt
Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter at U.S. Global Investors

Any such statements are made as of today, and U. S. Global Investors accepts no obligation to update them in the future. All right. Let's move on to Slide number four.

Holly Schoenfeldt
Holly Schoenfeldt
Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter at U.S. Global Investors

As always, we appreciate our loyal shareholders. If you'd like one of our signature USGI hats featured here on the slide, simply e mail us at info@usfunds.com with your mailing address, and we would be more than happy to send a little USGI swag your way. Alright. Moving on to the next slide. I will briefly review the company for anyone new here.

Holly Schoenfeldt
Holly Schoenfeldt
Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter at U.S. Global Investors

US Global Investors is an innovative investment manager with vast experience in global markets and specialized sectors. We use a quantum mental strategy to create thematic Smart Beta two point o products. The company was originally founded as an investment club, becoming a registered investment adviser in 1968 and has a long standing history of global investing and launching first of their kind investment products, including the first no load gold fund. Finally, we are experts in thematic investing, in particular, gold and precious metals, natural resources, airlines and luxury goods, all using a quantum mental approach that includes both macro and micro factors. Let's move on to the next slide.

Holly Schoenfeldt
Holly Schoenfeldt
Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter at U.S. Global Investors

This is a graphic we often start all of our presentations with titled The DNA of Volatility. It serves as a helpful reminder for investors that market fluctuations are a natural part of asset behavior over time. At this point, I do want to hand things over to our CEO and CIO, Frank Holmes, who can dive deeper into the macro overview of the past quarter. Frank, over to you.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Thank you, Holly, and thank you for all of our loyal investors during a challenging time in this realm of capital markets, which is so different than in the crypto world. And I'm gonna give you some more color on that in the presentation, but let's just talk about now this DNA of volatility. What's important here is that 70% of the time, approximately, it's a nonevent for gold and the S and P to go up or down 1% and over ten days plus or minus 3%. We update this data because if we go back to prior 02/2008, the volatility daily of gold was greater than the S and P and 10 even much more so. So we also found that growth volatility was much more with gold stocks, And that volatility was using three:one.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

But capital markets change over time and ETFs and the arbitrage between shorts and sorting individual names going along with ETF, all of these sort of arbitraging out information flow changes the volatility. But what I want to point out here is that our volatility of GROW is pretty well what the S and P 500 and bullion is. It's less than the Dow Jones US asset managers index over ten days. And and I found that most interesting why that's evolved this way because if I go back a few years ago when stock ran up to $12 a lot of it was in 2021 was Bitcoin being early adopters into the Bitcoin ecosystem by the cofounding accretion of high digital and high DNA volatility back then was plus or minus like 7%. And so our big holding, we were moving now with whatever Bitcoin was doing in the crypto mining space.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

But that's changed. And so that's why it's important that when you look at holdings and what we're doing and what our volatility is and how it relates to the underlying assets and our investments. What's most interesting, and it's not here at this time, strategy. Michael Saylor's ETF basically has become. It's a stock, but that stock is also a single purpose and the cover writing against it for the income, plus all the converts he's done, where they go borrow from the ETF, they go short the stock to do the convertible.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

There's just so much trading around that name, and that volatility is actually greater than what the Bitcoin is. So that's what I'm trying to point out to you as an investor when you look at risk and you're looking at volatility is to recognize what is our biggest asset base that's underneath us. It can impact our earnings and revenue. Next, please. I want to thank the shareholders, I mentioned earlier, but especially long term shareholders like Parent Capital and recently Gator Capital Management.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Next, please. I own approximately 19% of the company and approximately 99% of the voting control. That voting control is all has to do with rules of SEC forty act investment advisory rules. So that I still have to have independent directors, which I have, for the company and being public on Nasdaq. Next, please.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Strategy and tactics. Most important is strategy and can we execute on it. While it creates thematic products that are sustainable using a smart beta two point zero requires rigorous back testing for thousands of hours. And it's proven itself with JETS, in particular, that we went to beat the New York Stock Exchange Global Airline Index, which we've done after fees. And that discipline is basically to rebalance your portfolio every quarter and recalibrate looking for unique business model or you're looking for about 60% seems to be the 70% focus on factors that are momentum.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Who's got the fastest growth in revenue out of the universal stocks and who has the fastest growth in EBITDA and cash flow. And then you wanna look at the remaining part, which offers the Garfin Duster the deep value discount. And usually, that's a high free cash flow yield and a debt to equity ratio that's less than industry. So that's what we do, and we're happy to see that it's been working now for our funds. It's an interesting way.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

We know that the crop world itself is high frequency. It's an arbitrage of information. On average, it's less than three days. Holding something for three quarters is next to impossible, for three months is also. But when you're a mutual fund or ETF, even if you're active, you you can't you'll get criticized for having that high frequency volume trading and transactions, etcetera.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

So it's for me, it was trying to figure out something that was quant based that had a macro overlay and also a bottom up stock picking factors and that also recalibrated. So I'm happy to share with you it works, and we're going to continue to expand and grow with that. Because our mission is to make people feel happy financially and secure that when they buy one of our products, they can manage expectations and deliver something that they thought it would deliver. And we are trying to create a product that is unique and special in a theme that we think has long term growth to it. Strategic buyback of stock as we continue to do that, flatten down days, manage to preserve cash for future growth opportunities and market corrections, merger M and A activity to acquire funds, grow our subscriber base and followers.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

And now we're going to start increasing our exposure back to the Bitcoin ecosystem. We had a unique convertible debenture with Hive, and that's slowly being paid down. The 8% coupon is going away, and we want to deploy the remaining sort of capital back into Bitcoin and also to back into Hive because we believe that Hive has a very unique growth opportunity, which has been very public about, and that has been the 4x increase in its bitcoin production this year. So we think that it's deeply undervalued, and we remain very bullish about Bitcoin. Next, please.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

So for the long term, you can see here, we've outperformed the Russell Microcap Index. So we're happy with that. And but we'd be happier if we had stronger growth in the short term, and that's predominantly because the apathy and the discouragement of the industry and the great worry that we kept listening to about the airline industry, and we experienced jets being redeemed and we're scratching our head because we've got some of the airlines we own, like United, was up 130% last year, and they continue to do well. The airline industry, we just I'm so surprised the negative news that comes out of Wall Street, that it's a cyclical business. And I'm going to share with you, it's not.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

If you want to go and get more granularity of our presentations, the airline industry used to have a high season, low season pricing. Same with hotels. It's now high season and very high season. It is still very expensive. And what's happening is with AI is not just for Las Vegas.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

They're using it for managing flights and managing that, like luxury goods, managing the supply. And I think that this industry has tremendous pricing power and the psychology of society due to COVID as more pent up to want to travel. And this has really become evident in Europe where the influx of people want to go to museums and parks, that cities like Venice and Barcelona are charging a fee. And these cities are becoming like fanatic parks, going to Disney World to go visit, and you have to pay $100 to get in. And if you want the family luxury package, it's even more.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

It's very expensive. And so what the mayors of Barcelona and Venice have said that they need this tax, and it's to repair the roads, and there's just so much traffic. And interesting, there's a park in in Barcelona that Gaudi had designed the famous architect and and his arc architecture, and his is so unique and special. And this park oversees Barcelona, it was always free. Today, it's like €20, and you have to book online.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

This now become a Disney park, and the locals are able to special pass, etcetera. They never have to pay because that's where they stayed, especially during COVID. But anyone else wants to see it to repair the parking because tourism is so big. It's recognizing that this tourism is not going away. Next, please.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

So I believe the airlines industry will go from being characterized as a cyclical business to more of a growth business. And I've been early on these things before. Just like we were on Bitcoin, we couldn't launch a Bitcoin ETF in 2017. So we seeded and co founded the the first crypto mining company to go public called HIVE. So this is a the the journey of jets led us to over to England to get listed, and then the opportunity was to keep something that had a broader universe in travel, and that was trip.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

And so we merged our Chets ETF with another group that wanted to get out of the business, and we're very happy with this. It's also the first active ETF to be in the London Stock Exchange. It's very much like JETS. It's very Smart Beta two point zero, even though it's called active. And it has a broader number of names because it includes the industries of cruise lines and hotels, whereas the JETS product that's listed in the New York Stock Exchange and Mexico City and Bogota and Lima, that product is very much more focused around the airlines themselves and airports and airline manufacturers.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Next, please. So I mentioned earlier initiatives, strategy to increase investments. We have several million dollars coming back from HIVE. Used to be much higher, so we want to refocus on the Bitcoin ecosystem. There's many factors such as it'll become a regulated industry.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

There'll be regulations coming out. The administration is pro Bitcoin. So I think that it's a much more safer process to go down, a channel that banks now are allowed to own Bitcoin. Things are really changing rapidly under president Trump and the regime. So I think it's very positive for the crypto industry.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

And so we plan to increase our exposure on like a dollar cost program for Bitcoin ETFs, Bitcoin, and invest in Hive shares. Next, please. WAR ETF looks positioned to benefit amid rising geopolitical risk. That relates to our latest ETF called WAR. It's the AI application build up against cybersecurity attacks and military.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

It's really the spread of China. We're very happy because we create this model. It outperforms all the other security type of defense ETFs before we launched the product with extensive back testing. And year to date, it's held its ground. It's not down, whereas the overall market has really taken it on the chin and expanded its volatility ever since the president Trump started going after countries on creating a tariff war.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Next, please. Gold or darling, recent trade off of gold stocks, the correlation is so high. And I want to try to point out that this century, you can see that the annual average gold price has been up 84% of the time. It's outperformed the S and P 500. It just shocks people when they just like they don't want to believe how great of an asset class this has been.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

And it's only going to get better as we go forward for several reasons. But here's what's important is that the modern monetary theory is a mechanism of this printing money. And since I've really started to grasp it with politicians and government agencies around the beginning of this century, we've seen gold do phenomenally well. We can see that we've seen nineeleven triggered gold rising, but we'd also triggered growth in military spending. And then with Russia going into Crimea and then going back and then showing that they're not going to change and invading Ukraine, that's had a significant impact on on gold as an asset class and central banks becoming skittish and paper money, the way the printing of paper money has exploded.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

We look today at the G20 countries, and we're going to take a look at India and China, who are collectively 40% of the world's population. Their money supply, M2, has jumped almost up to 10% growth. So that only bodes well for gold. And I think we're going to continue to see that as central banks are buying. It's also going through under Basel III, which is the international banking regulations for the big money center banks, the physical goal is going to all of a sudden be treated as tier one, which is called high quality liquid asset, meaning it could be counted as full market value alongside with government bonds and cash when calculating that bank's liquidity coverage ratio.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

This became something that was very significant in two thousand and eight banking crisis. And gold, as as we've seen, it really this idea raises the status of of from a risky commodity to a safe liquid asset, making more attractive for banks to hold. And when I first moved to taxes in '20 in '19 sorry, 1990, it was nothing but negative on gold. Even though it was known for gold funds, we had great gold fund performance when gold was up that year, it was always dealing with this gold's a high risk commodity, it's bad. But it's now we're early.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

And I would say to share with you thirty five years early on that sort of journey where I really think that gold is the 10% golden rule is going to grasp with investors and institutions and now with the banks being encouraged. It also impacts Basel III emphasis on physical gold, not gold ETFs. We saw this first sort of Germany that you get taxed differently if you had physical gold versus if you had a gold ETF. And so they really want people to have in their hands physical gold. So this idea really legitimizes gold's role as a financial safe haven.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

And and I think that we're gonna see gold, like I mentioned a couple years ago, go to 4,000. Well, it's almost there. I I think it goes to 6,000 by the end of Trump's presidency. Next, please. So gold mining stocks are outpacing the physical, and it's really odd.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

It's happening, but nothing like it used to happen before. Used to get those two to one run with gold stocks taking off or when gold's taking off. And there seems to be, like we're seeing in the airlines, one of the big parts is the biggest cost that airlines have is falling oil prices. Well, was a big thing we wrote about, talked about last year, and the airlines were up much more than the S and P five hundred, and there's falling oil prices. Well, oil prices fell again this quarter, so therefore, they're more profitable.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

But there's an apathy. There's an apathy towards the airline industry even though all the flights are packed. And that's just a psychology. I don't know directly. Honestly, we all respect this.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Annoying and frustrating because we're picking good quality stocks and the same thing now when it comes to the gold stocks. But you can see, in particular, the first quarter that the gold mining stocks are on a tear. Next, please. Well, a lot of this stuff happens with the they like to say the fifty day moving average. And and what we saw is that gold starts trading to an all time new high when Trump first went after Mexico and Canada around Valentine's Day.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

That first move, all of a sudden, you started seeing gold rise above its fifty day moving average. And then we saw gold go through another big change was the liberation day, where it slightly sold off and then boom, it just charged up to all time highs. Having a 10% weighting in gold is just prudent. And it's shown it for the decade. It's shown it for this century, and it's shown it this quarter, this year.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

So we think that, with Basel III as a backdrop institution, so we're going to get a greater interest in gold, and our gold funds will all of a sudden start to get a different flow. Next, please. Now this is just to give you an idea how bearish people are. Gold stocks conundrum, we're seeing the largest gold equity ETF, the gold miners, it's got redemptions even though the price of gold is going up, even though the price of gold is making all time highs. Why would you be doing this?

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

And so it doesn't make sense that people are happy seeing gold stocks make an all time high, but they're gonna redeem because no one believes. They it's it's I've never seen, but it's not just gold. It's also the airlines. Next, please. Another sort of visual showing you that gold's rising, but redemptions are rising.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

And it just it's it's very weird. We're not experiencing that with our GoAU. It's pretty well flat during this time period. But in talking to some the owner of this GDX GDXJ was commenting that a lot of hedge funds were short period gold names and they were long the ETF of the Paris trade. And as gold stocks continue to roar and they're outside, they start covering.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

So that's why they think the redemption is coming from that. But I think it's it's a lot of just apathy towards the stock market. Next, please. So gold mining stocks are trading at multiyear high. Well but that's strange, isn't it?

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

It it goes 3,500, and, really, they're trading at the same level when they were 1,500. So these stocks are just charging with free cash flow, high free cash flow, something they've never had. But I've been writing that in the past two years, it's been slowly rising that the universe of almost 90 gold proofs as we follow around the world that there were 70 of them had free cash flow yields and made them high free cash flow yields, higher than the overall S and P five hundred. And so now these numbers are coming out for this past quarter. They're going to be just massive in the quarter we're in right now.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

We're going to have back to back huge growth in revenue and cash flow and earnings. Next, please. This is a simple ratio taken in New York ARCA Gold Miners Index by the S and P five hundred, and it's always been recommended that you have a weighting in the sector. And when you look at the ETFs, they used to have at one time, something like 6% was waiting and it fell down to 0.5%. And really, it started to nudge higher, but it's so deeply undervalued relative to the overall S and P 500.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

So I remain very bullish about the future for our products and weathering through this storm of apathy, due to the tariff battle that's taking place. Next, please. I love IBD because of their candle sling model that is very agnostic towards industries, but they capture industry themes when they start to take off. And what's really important for me to share with you is in 02/2003, we had the same thing where the gold stocks were taking off. The only difference is back then, we would get some days $50,000,000 coming into our gold funds.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

That's not happening today. And it's not going into GDXJ. So there's something that's very weird, but they are showing up where they have growth in momentum in their revenue and their earnings, and it's being picked up by IBD and the stock prices of these names. So now we have something like 20% of the 50 names that gets updated every week are gold stocks, and we own the majority of these names in our funds. So it's positive that we see this as a great backdrop that when the world sort of wakes up to gold, that it's a long term secular trend, these stocks will go through a bigger rating.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Next, please. Fear of tariffs. Money market funds seem to see increase. I'll use this as an example, Vanguard's money fund, seeing how much money came in with Trump's battle from Valentine's Day to Liberation Day on April. Just fund flows immediately start going into another stock market.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Next, please. Warren Buffett retires. One the most brilliant guys. He retires with almost 345,000,000,000 in cash. 94 years old.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

What an amazing GARP investor. I want to just sort of tip my hat to him, but also remember he has a big cash position looking for sell offs to buy. Next, please. Positive news. I'm giving this because the stock buybacks are back even though there was a tax imposed by the previous administration on buying back stocks because they sold off.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

We saw a drop in 2024 by a combination of the stock market soaring to new highs, and and this is now a sell off, and we're starting a a repositioning of people buying back stock. Even the gold stocks, Newmont, is not buying other gold mining companies or expanding their exploration. They're buying back their stock from all their free cash flow. Next, please. So why we buy back our stock?

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Well, company, we believe that stock is undervalued, and therefore we buy back shares of GROW when the price is flat or down from the previous trading day using a basic algorithm. And this is part of the company's two pillar strategy to enhance shareholder value by increasing the dividends as well as buy back stock. And with this overall apathy, we just continue to increase our positioning of where we're buying back stock. I think that when we start to see various industries that we're in, we see the positive news from fund flows that we may change that position of our stock we're buying. But it's trading at a very deep discount.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

And yes, we lost money because of the change in our asset base because of the stock market's concerns on tariffs. But I think over the next sixty days, we'll probably get a bottom to this. Next, please. So the current repurchase program for the three months ended 03/31/2025, the company repurchased a total of 187,987 plus eight shares, you've seen cash of approximately 4 and 54,000. Next, please.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

So the repurchase program shows you that it's increased, and it continues to increase. As the stock goes lower, then we'll buy back more. Next, please. The company has paid monthly dividends since June 2007. The current yield works at about 4.13%.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

It pays monthly. Next, please. So this thing about shareholder yield, I think it's just a brilliant way of looking at companies that are paying down their debt, buying back their stock and paying dividends and increasing their dividends. One of those three factors are really important for driving overall value for market cap. Next, please.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Shareholder investors are committed to returning value to shareholders. So we like to do this comparison to a five year treasury yields because dividends are really important. The five years where they gauge you on your dividend yield as whole, ten years predominantly, the coupon they pay there is a trade off for funding for building a data center or building a building. You're going to get bank lending. It's always a discounted cash flow over ten years.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

But dividend paying stocks is five years. So when you look at us buying back our stock and what our dividend yield is today, that's a total shareholder yield of 10.53%. So we think it's a very attractive investment looking for a bottom in this cycle. And we continue to invest in the R and D for our Smart Beta two point zero themes. Next, please.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Relative valuation is always important as a money manager. And it's unique, the spectrum here, and it rotates. If we go back a couple of years ago, our WisdomTree, we had a higher return on assets. They now have a higher, which you can understand with the change in asset structure and our 8% convertible bond being paid down, that additional income, it affects your return on your assets. But our pretax margins helped the decline in those assets.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

And you can see this with Invesco. Invesco has QQQ, a beast, over $300,000,000,000 product, which is 40% of their assets. And they've sold off along with the QQQ. And the dividend yield is now 6%, which is greater than what a five year bond is. So I think that from a current income, it looks pretty attractive.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

If you believe, like Warren Buffett is, and he's the ultimate investor, believe in American, build your cash like he did last year in the first quarter and look for something to buy when it sells off. But buy the dip and hold on for dear life because America is the greatest country in the world. Well, the QQQ covers Nasdaq. So I think that it makes these companies look quite interesting. Next, please.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

A look at Q3 twenty twenty five. The company has steady cash flow despite challenging macro market environment, which I've gone through. The company has a strong balance sheet, which includes cash and other investments. And three, the company continues to buy back stock on flat or down days and pays a mostly dividend. I think that makes us unique and special.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

And we will get through this where we think that we'll go through the rerating. And we also remain that we feel that the high position is slowly being paid down, that we need to be repositioned in the Bitcoin ecosystem. The politics has changed, and we think that the Bitcoin adoption will continue to grow. Next, please. Smart Beta two point o, I think I pretty well covered that it's really an important fundamental investment strategy that it requires robust amount of hours.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

And you have to look at it all the time because when you do the quarterly rebalancing, the data pulls by third party and ourselves are always different. And the data pull from Bloomberg or FactSet, you have to check this every quarter. So there's an ongoing vigilance on picking the stocks and creating that portfolio. So we don't think it's a black box. You sit back and do nothing once you buy your basket of names.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

It's the opposite. Next, please. We have a positive investment in high digital, and it's from $15,000,000 we have down to $2,300,000 left. It's paid off quarterly to eight percent convertible. So that's as this money is coming in, we'll redeploy in the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Next, please. So gross to $181,400,000,000.0 in assets, dollars 2,100,000.0 of fully operating revenues. Next, please. So you can see our earnings for Dell. Lisa is going to give you more color and granularity on it, but a lot of it has to do with the sort of the fears of the airline industry and the fears of gold stocks that they're not going to be sustainable and gold, whatever it is with the apathy.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

I've seen it before, witnessed it. So I believe that we'll call through this. We're a lean machine of less than 25 employees. And we know that at moment, these products can go like just went from $150,000,000 or $140,000,000 down to less than $50,000,000 then up to $4,000,000,000 And then now it's down to just under $1,000,000,000 So you just have to realize that that's just the volatility and a lot of sentiment. And during that whole period, we'll make sure that we're always picking the best of breed stocks.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Next, please. We just celebrated Jets being ten years. We have the opportunity of going to New York Stock Exchange and sharing that with other people. So it was a great trip. Next, please.

Frank Holmes
Frank Holmes
CEO & Chief Investment Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Now the brains and hardworking, Lisa Kallikop is going to give you a financial analysis of what took place. So I turn over to Lisa.

Lisa Callicotte
Lisa Callicotte
Chief Financial Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Thank you, Frank. Morning. First, I'll start with our financial highlights. Our our assets under management were 1,400,000,000.0 for the quarter, and our operating revenues were 2,100,000.0, and we had a 40,000,000 net loss of 382,000. The next slide talks about a breakout of our earnings.

Lisa Callicotte
Lisa Callicotte
Chief Financial Officer at U.S. Global Investors

We have operational earnings, which consists of our advisory services, and then we also have other earnings that consist mainly of realized and unrealized gains and losses on our investment holding. But both of these are dependent on the market and will fluctuate as the market does. On the next slide, we'll see more detail about our operations for the quarter ending 03/31/2025. Here, we see that the operating revenues were 2,100,000.0 for the quarter, and this was a decrease of 490,000 or 19% from the 2,600,000.0 in the same quarter last year. The decrease is primarily due to decreases in assets under management, as Frank discussed and especially in our JET ETF.

Lisa Callicotte
Lisa Callicotte
Chief Financial Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Operating expenses for the current quarter were 3,000,000. This was a decrease of eighty five thousand and 3%, primarily due to a decrease in dental and administrative expenses of 281,000 or 16% due to lower fund expenses. The G and A decrease was somewhat offset by a decrease in advertising of a hundred and 46,000, primarily attributable to increasing efforts to grow our assets under management. On the next slide, we see our operating loss for the quarter was $893,000 or an unfavorable change of $405,000 compared to the same quarter last year. Other income increased a hundred and 20,000, that was due to net realized and unrealized losses on equity securities at 50,000 in the quarter current quarter versus 231 in the same quarter in the prior year, which was a favorable change of a hundred and 8,000.

Lisa Callicotte
Lisa Callicotte
Chief Financial Officer at U.S. Global Investors

Net loss after taxes for the quarter of 832,000 or 3¢ per share, which is an unfavorable change of 347,000 compared to our net loss of 35,000 the same quarter for fiscal year twenty four. And then on the next couple of slides, you see our balance sheet. We have a strong balance sheet with high levels of cash and security. Then on slide 45, we see we still don't have any long term debt. And on slide 46, you can see our stockholders' equity.

Lisa Callicotte
Lisa Callicotte
Chief Financial Officer at U.S. Global Investors

The company has a net working capital of 37,500,000.0 and a current ratio of 21.7 to one. With that, I will turn it over to Holly to discuss marketing and distribution.

Holly Schoenfeldt
Holly Schoenfeldt
Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter at U.S. Global Investors

Thank you, Lisa. Okay. The first slide in my section highlights our continued commitment to sharing original timely market insight on YouTube as well as TikTok.

Holly Schoenfeldt
Holly Schoenfeldt
Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter at U.S. Global Investors

Videos are one of the most effective ways to educate and engage both new and existing shareholders. So if you haven't yet, we highly and the ongoing focus on the defense sector right now. This video actually covers President Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative or better known as Star Wars. So check that out when you have some time. Then on the next slide, these are just a few of the upcoming conferences where the U.

Holly Schoenfeldt
Holly Schoenfeldt
Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter at U.S. Global Investors

S. Global investors team will be participating. First up is Wealth Management Edge that happens in June, where we'll be engaging with RIA, engaging the media exposure and connecting with potential shareholders. And then in July, we will be at the Rule Natural Resource Symposium, which is hosted by Rick Rule. And while we are there, we are going to have a modest presence, and we're especially excited that our gold fund manager, Ralph Aldis, will be speaking on the investing legends panel alongside industry leaders like Frank Juustreff from Viore Group, Rob McEwen from McEwen Mining and Jonathan Goodman from Vendi.

Holly Schoenfeldt
Holly Schoenfeldt
Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter at U.S. Global Investors

Moving on to the next slide. I want to point out that the Frank Talk blog continues to expand its third party distribution, and now you can sign up to receive it on Substack. And this platform has around 20,000,000 monthly active subscribers. On the next slide, we always like to recap the most read Frank Talk blog post during the quarter. So as you can see here, the top themes focus on tariffs, trade wars and then gold.

Holly Schoenfeldt
Holly Schoenfeldt
Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter at U.S. Global Investors

And honestly, all of those are still incredibly timely as we head into the next quarter. Finally, on my last slide, I do encourage you all to follow U. S. Local investors on social media. We're on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube, Instagram and Facebook.

Holly Schoenfeldt
Holly Schoenfeldt
Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter at U.S. Global Investors

So wherever you prefer to get your news, be sure to check us out. This way you're up to date with everything that's going on not only with GROW, but with our funds and just the broader market insights. Alright. As a reminder to our audience, if you have any questions today, please email those to info@usfunds.com, and we will gladly follow-up with you to get anything clarified that you may need more information on. Thank you so much for tuning in today. That concludes our webcast.

Executives
    • Holly Schoenfeldt
      Holly Schoenfeldt
      Director of Marketing, Editor of the Investor Alert newsletter
    • Frank Holmes
      Frank Holmes
      CEO & Chief Investment Officer
    • Lisa Callicotte
      Lisa Callicotte
      Chief Financial Officer