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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Hello Group EPS ResultsActual EPSN/AConsensus EPS $0.21Beat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AHello Group Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AHello Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date6/17/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateN/AConference Call TimeN/AConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (6-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Hello Group Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJune 5, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Total group revenue reached RMB 2.52 billion, beating the high end of guidance despite a slight 1.5% year-over-year decline. Overseas revenue accelerated 72% year-over-year to RMB 415 million, accounting for 16% of total revenue and expected to further offset domestic pressure. Adjusted operating income fell 33% year-over-year to RMB 315 million, with margins sliding six percentage points to 14%, pressured by higher overseas payout ratios and severance costs. Momo app cut low-ROI acquisition channels, shedding 1.5 million long-tail paying users to improve overall ROI and stabilize the social ecosystem. Emerging overseas brands like Yahaland and Ama achieved stable monetization ROI after increased marketing spend, aiming for operational breakeven by year-end. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallHello Group Q1 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the First Quarter twenty twenty five Hello Group Inc. Earnings Conference Call. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Ms. Ashley Zhang. Thank you. Please go ahead, ma'am. Ashley JingDirector of IR at Hello Group00:00:22Thank you, operator. Good morning and good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for Hello Group's first quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. The company's results were released earlier today and are available on the company's IR website. On the call today are Mr. Tang Yan, CEO of the company Ms. Jiang Sichuan, COO of the company and Ms. Peng Hui, CFO of the company. They'll discuss the company's business operations and highlights as well as the financials and guidance. They'll all be available to answer your questions during the Q and A session that follows. Ashley JingDirector of IR at Hello Group00:00:53Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this call may contain forward looking statements made under the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are based on management's current expectations and current market and operating conditions and relate to events that involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, all of which are difficult to predict and many of which are beyond the company's control, which may cause the company's actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from those in the forward looking statements. Further information regarding this and other risks, uncertainties and factors is included in the company's filings with the U. S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Ashley JingDirector of IR at Hello Group00:01:34The company does not undertake any obligation to update any forward looking statements as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required under law. I now pass the call over to our COO, Ms. Jiangsuan. Ms. Jiangsuan, please. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:01:49Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining our call. Q1 was a solid quarter and a good start to 2025. Next, I will review our strategic priorities for the year and provide updates on execution. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:02:06Before getting into the financials, investors who have reviewed our Q1 earnings will notice that we have disclosed geographical breakdowns on revenue levels. Over the past few years, with the rapid development of overseas businesses, their revenue contribution to the group is getting increasingly prominent. In Q1, overseas revenue accounted for 16% of total revenue, up from less than 10% in Q1 twenty four. We expect this percentage to continue growing rapidly in the coming quarters. We believe that the geographical revenue breakdown helps investors better help to track our progress in our overseas development. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:02:59Next, let's dive into the details of Q1. Starting with an overview of financial performance. For Q1 twenty twenty five, total group revenue was RMB2.52 billion, exceeding the high end of our guidance, and was slightly down 1.5% year over year. Domestic revenue reached RMB2.11 billion, down 9% year over year. Overseas revenue reached RMB415 million, with accelerated year over year growth of 72%. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:03:43Adjusted operating income was RMB315 million, down 33% from q one last year with a margin of 14%, down six percentage points from the same previous last year. On last earning call, I outlined several key priorities for 2025. For Momo, our goal is to maintain the productivity of this catch car business with a healthy social ecosystem. For Tanjiang, our goal is to improve its core dating experience and build an efficient business model that drives profitable growth. As for the new endeavors, our goal is to continue deepening our presence in overseas markets, enriching our brand portfolio, and building a long term growth engine. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:04:41Since the beginning of the year, we have made strong progress across all three fronts. Let me walk you through the details. First, our mobile app. At the product level, we continue to optimize interactive features that facilitate users in making meaningful connections and maintaining interactions with the goal of enhancing social experience and stabilizing user base scale. As mentioned earlier, we have developed an in house AI algorithm that generates personalized reading for male users by analyzing the historical test or image post of female users. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:05:28Data shows that the response rate for AI generated greeting is significantly higher than that of user generated ones. Since we fully rolled out this feature, the response rate to greetings has continued to rise. On the user acquisition front, to ensure stable productivity of the Cash Cow business, In q one, we trimmed inefficient channels with ROI below 80% and gradually terminated cooperation with underperforming ones. The average user acquisition cost narrowed slightly from last quarter, thanks to the improved channel efficiency and enhanced user onboarding and conversion capabilities. User retention remained stable despite a double digit increase in user acquisition. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:06:26A significant reduction in channel investment with negative ROI has resulted in a substantial decline in long tail paying users. In Q1, Momo app had 4,200,000 paying users, a sequential decrease of 1,500,000. Since the long tail paying users abandoned by channels has relatively low engagement and spending, the absence of this group did not have much negative impact on overall user activity and revenue. Instead, it helped a positive role in improving overall profits. The continuously improving user acquisition ROI in the past two quarters has proved that such a strategy is very effective, and we plan to continue with this effort. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:07:25Now on the productivity of Momo Cash Cow business. In q one, Momo's value added services, previously known as live streaming and VAS, but combined as value added service from this quarter, revenue totaled RMB1.78 billion, down less than 10% year over year. The decline never from last year, mainly because we completed our proactive demonetization operational adjustments by the end of twenty twenty four. We believe that the content ecosystem of the platform is now at a relatively satisfactory level. The annual decline was mainly attributed to standing witness among top paying users caused by microfetters. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:08:21We have introduced new operational events and gifting features tailored for Mii cohort users across audio and video scenarios. We adjusted the recommendation algorithm in chat room to better align with the social preferences of mid cohort users, driving growth in both penetration rates and user scale of the chat room experience. Moreover, we launched new ice breaking paying features to boost spending among mid cohort, which partially offset the revenue pressure caused by the declines of top paying users. The increase in revenue contribution from chat room, which has a relatively lower revenue sharing ratio, alongside a scale back of revenue oriented live streaming operation events, has together placed a positive role in stabilizing growth margin amidst revenue pressure. Turning to In recent years, the strategy of cost reduction and efficiency improvement combined with product adjustments has put sustained pressure on Tantan's user base and revenue. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:09:47To maintain profitability, we further reduced Tantan's marketing spend in q one. The decrease in channel traffic has put some pressure on the overall user scale. However, we are pleased to see that thanks to gradual improvements in the ecosystem and product experience. Organic traffic, primarily from returning users, has continued to grow steadily, largely offsetting the decrease caused by reduced marketing spend. In March, Tantan's MAU was 10,700,000.0, a slight decline of 1% quarter over quarter. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:10:32As of the end of Q1, Pantan had 800,000 paying users, a decrease of 60,000 from previous quarter. This was mainly due to the ongoing product upgrade, which is improving user experience but has a short term negative impact on paying conversion. While we are rolling out testing features to a larger pool of users, the paying ratio declined slightly from the last quarter. Turning to Tantan's financials. Revenue from the onshore business in Q1 was close to million, down 19% year over year. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:11:18The decrease was due to the declines in paying user accounts, whereas ARPU grew by double digits, partially offsetting revenue pressure. On the product front, in q one, we wrapped up the product upgrade launched last year with a focus on enhancing user authenticity through scale product testing, which further increased the user verification rate. On the channel front, our goal was to achieve 100% ROI, namely recover all fixed and variable costs, including labor, s three abandoned channels, which that could not be fully recouped. Overall, marketing spending decreased further from last quarter, and the average user acquisition cost dropped by double digits. Combined with minor product driven improvements in ARPU, this has led to a significant sequential increase in user acquisition ROI. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:12:35Currently, channel ROI has far exceeded 100%, which is the key to achieving quarterly profit growth despite revenue pressure in q one. On the commercial product front, to mitigate the revenue pressure caused by the decline in paying users, We upgraded membership features to boost ARPU. At the same time, we moderately increased promotion efforts to offset the negative impact of product optimization on paying conversion. As for the overseas business, in Q1, overseas revenue reached RMB415 million, with accelerated year over year growth of 72%. Overseas revenue accounted for 16.4% of total group revenue, up from 9.4% in Q1 twenty twenty four. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:13:41Over the past few years, our overseas revenue has mainly come from our voice based social product, social, in the MENA market. When social has maintained rapid growth, we believe that due to the fragmented nature of the social entertainment space and the diversified and nuanced user experiences, in order to expand our market share in MENA regions more effectively and efficiently. We need other brands in addition to short term. As we have accumulated more products and operational experience in MENA, we build up our local team. We have launched more independent brands in recent years to meet different user groups' online social entertainment needs. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:14:36During our SoChoose success, we have developed Lever, a playbook for the zero to one development of social entertain Operator00:16:15Hi. The conference has recommenced. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:16:19Okay. I will continue. Since the beginning of 2025, we have wrapped up a channel investment for new products. The ROI oriented channel strategy has driven the revenue of new products to exceed our initial expectations. This is the main reason for the accelerated year on year growth of overseas revenue in q one. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:16:45Currently, the overseas revenue increment can largely offset the no domestic revenue decline. In q one, show two, which generated the highest revenue amount overseas apps, brought in close to 300,000,000 RMB, representing a year on year growth of nearly 40%. The growth was mainly driven by localized operation over the past years and improved cross border collaboration between front and back end teams, enabling Sochio to achieve satisfactory results in both expansion into new markets and launch of new features. On a quarterly basis, revenue growth faced pressure due to political unrest in The Middle East at the end of last year, coupled with Ramadan, during which users' spending sentiment was depressed. However, I'm pleased to see that our team was able to adjust operational strategy promptly to mitigate the negative impact of these uncertainties, which plays a positive role in stabilizing revenue. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:18:07Apart from Sochill, our audio based social game product Yahaland, and voice based social product Ama have recently entered the monetization phase and have delivered a stable ROI since we increased marketing investment at the beginning of this year. As a result, we further increased marketing spend, which drives significant quarterly revenue growth for both products. Beyond pursuing top line growth, our team also focused on optimizing the revenue sharing model and driving high margin features revenue to improve overall gross profit. These efforts laid the solid foundation for achieving operational breakeven. We are confident that the team will reach this goal by the year end. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:19:06Our goal for the overseas market is not limited to social and entertainment products in the MENA region. HelloGroup is the operator of Asia's largest open social platform. We understand Asian's user preferences and pain points in discovering new relationships and building meaningful interactions better than other players in the market. Therefore, we are confident that we should be playing a key role in global dating market. Currently, we have set up a team in Singapore with deep expertise in overseas dating operation and marketing. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:19:49Moving forward, we expect to push harder on building a better dating experience and brands for users seeking romantic relationship. This concludes my remarks. Now let me pass the call to Kathy for the financial review. Kathy, please. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:20:19Thanks, Sik. Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining our conference call today. Before getting into the financials, let me first outline the adjustments we've made to our disclosure practice starting this quarter. Number one, we've introduced a geographical breakdown of revenues to more accurately reflect the rapidly growing and increasingly significant overseas business. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:20:48Number two, given that the line between live streaming and value added services is becoming increasingly blurred, and these two are really in subsidence all fee based revenues where we directly charge the users for value added services, and in many cases, in turn share part of the revenues with content providers. We've merged the two business lines into one, which we now refer to as value added services. Number three, given that TanTan's revenue accounts for less than 10% of the group's total revenue, we've discontinued its segment reporting. Now, let me take you through the financial review. Total revenue for the first quarter twenty twenty five was RMB2.52 billion, down 2% year on year and 4% quarter on quarter, exceeding the high end of our revenue guidance. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:21:48Non GAAP net income attributable to the company was RMB403.8 million compared to RMB59.9 million for the same period last year and RMB230.5 million from Q4 'twenty four. In the first and last quarter of twenty twenty four, we had some one off tax and impairment related expenses. Excluding these special items, net income for Q1 twenty twenty four and Q4 twenty twenty four would have been RMB508.5 million and RMB371.1 million, respectively. Looking into the key revenue items for Q1. Total revenue from value added services, the sum of revenues from former live streaming and VAS, but combined as value added services from this quarter was RMB2.49 billion, down 2% year on year and 4% quarter on quarter. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:22:52On a user geography basis, VAS PRC Mainland revenue was RMB2.08 billion, down 9% year over year and 7% quarter over quarter. The year over year decrease was mainly due to the weak consumer sentiment caused by macro factors, which put pressure on Momo business. And to a lesser extent, the decrease in Tantan due to the decline in the number of paying users. The sequential decrease was due to negative seasonality. VAS overseas revenue came in at 4,000,000, up 73% year over year and 16% quarter over quarter. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:23:39The year over year growth was driven by both the rapid expansion of Sochill and the initial monetization of a few emerging brands. Turning to costs and expenses. Non GAAP cost of revenue for the first quarter of twenty twenty five was RMB1.57 billion compared to RMB1.50 billion for the same period last year. Non GAAP gross margin for the quarter was 37.9%, down 3.5 percentage points from the year ago period. The year over year decrease was due to a number of factors. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:24:17Number one, higher payout ratio, which in turn was due to two factors. One is that overseas business contributed a larger percentage of total revenue while having a higher payout ratio, especially during the first regional expansion and initial phase of live streaming service offering. And to a lesser degree, slightly higher payout from mobile app to incentivize the supply side considering the downward revenue trend. Number two, optimization of personnel, which led to an increase in one off severance payments. Number three, payment channel costs and infrastructure expenses constitute a higher percentage of revenues as the revenue mix shifts toward overseas business, where these fees as a percentage of revenues are higher compared to domestic business. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:25:13Non GAAP R and D expenses for the first quarter was RMB185.9 million compared to RMB183.4 million for the same period last year, representing a 1% increase year over year. The increase was attributed to severance payments associated with personnel optimization. Non GAAP R expenses remained stable at 7% of revenue, consistent with the figure from the previous year. We ended the quarter with thirteen thirty six total employees compared to thirteen seventy five from a year ago. The R and D personnel as a percentage of total employees for the group was 58% compared with 62% from Q1 last year. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:26:05Non GAAP sales and marketing expenses for the first quarter was RMB 3 and 22,100,000.0 or 13% of total revenue compared to RMB 287,300,000.0 RMB or 11% of total revenue for the same period last year. The year over year increase was attributable to the increase in channel investment for the overseas apps, whereas marketing spend for the PRC Mainland business narrowed due to Tantan's ongoing cost control strategy. Non GAAP G and A expenses was RMB114.8 million for the first quarter compared to RMB93.5 million for the same quarter last year, representing a 54% of total revenue respectively. Non GAAP operating income was RMB345.3 million with a margin of 13.7% compared with RMB516.0 million with a margin of 20.1% from the same period last year. Non GAAP operating expenses as a percentage of total revenue was 25%, an increase from 22% from Q1 twenty twenty four. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:27:32Now briefly on income tax expenses. Total income tax expenses was million for the quarter, with an effective tax rate of 16. In Q1, the company accrued withholding income tax of RMB12.9 million, which is 5% of undistributed profit generated by our RoFE. Without the withholding tax, our estimated non GAAP effective tax rate was around 13% in the first quarter. Now turning to balance sheet and cash flow items. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:28:09As of 03/31/2025, Hello Group's cash, cash equivalents, short term deposits, long term deposits and restricted cash totaled billion compared to RMB14.73 billion as of 12/31/2024. The decrease in cash reserves was largely attributable to the repayment of RMB1.74 billion bank loan, including accrued interest. Net cash provided by operating activities in the first quarter of twenty twenty five was RMB29.7 million. Lastly, on business outlook, we estimated our second quarter revenue to come in the range from RMB 2,570,000,000.00 to RMB 2,600,000,000.0, representing a decrease of 4.5% to 0.8% year on year. This is based on the assumption that on a year over year basis, PRC Mainland business will decrease mid to low teens percentage, while overseas revenue is expected to achieve more than 80 growth. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:29:30Please be mindful that this forecast represents the company's current and preliminary view on the market and operational conditions, which are subject to change. That concluded our prepared portion of today's discussion. With that, let me turn the call back to Ashley to start Q and A. Ashley JingDirector of IR at Hello Group00:29:51Ashley, please. Thank you. Just a quick reminder before we take the questions. For those who can speak Chinese, please ask your questions in Chinese first and followed by English translation by yourself. Thank you. Operator, we're ready for questions. Operator00:30:04Thank you. Your first question comes from Zhuking Zhang with CICC. Xueqing ZhangAnalyst at China International Capital Corporation (CICC)00:31:10Congratulations on your strong quarter and the remarkable growth of OMC's business. My question about Sochou. On the first quarter earnings call, the management mentioned that Sochou achieved 52% revenue growth in 2024. And management mentioned just now that Sochou's year on year growth in Q1 were less than 42 percentage. Apart from high base effect, are there any other areas causing a slowdown in revenue, such as market competition, consumption, and other concerns? Xueqing ZhangAnalyst at China International Capital Corporation (CICC)00:31:45What does the management think about the revenue signing for social and what's the profit guidance for the future? Thank you. Moderator00:32:56Indeed, last year, SoQiu achieved revenue growth by strengthening localized operations, expanding into new markets and introducing video features. However, since the beginning of this year, the revenue growth has slowed down a little bit. And this country this can be attributed not only to a high base effect, but also the political unrest in The Middle East at the end of last year, which dampened some users' consumption sentiment, a trend that continued into Q1 of this year. To mitigate the impact of the event driven revenue pressure, we beefed up our efforts to acquire paying users through various channels and introduced new features designed to facilitate relationship building and improve user engagement. The enhancement in user experience has positively impacted retention. Moderator00:33:52Additionally, during Ramadan, we organized several operational events, resulting in more stable user fluctuations compared to previous years. This helped in the rapid recovery of user activities and spending after the Ramadan. So as for the competition concerns just mentioned, although The Middle East hosts a rich variety of social entertainment products, the market remains highly fragmented. That's why we haven't experienced a significant competitive pressure. The resilience can also be attributed to our extensive experience in product development and operations within this sector. Moderator00:35:13Last year, Sohu's revenue was close to RMB1 billion, and we believe it still has greater growth potential. But however, to achieve this goal, we need to go beyond Sochio's current market penetration and product offering. This is precisely why we must continue to expand into new markets, deepen our presence in existing regions and drive continuous product innovation. So in terms of profit, Sohu has maintained solid earnings in the recent years. However, during this phase of rapid revenue growth and ongoing efforts to enhance market penetration, we will not prioritize margin expansion. Moderator00:36:18Instead, we will maintain strict control over channel ROI. As long as our user acquisition remains profitable, we will reinvest the incremental profit into user acquisition channels and strengthen localized operations. I hope that answers your question. So operator, please take the next one. Thank you. Operator00:36:39Your next question comes from Riyo Xiang with Deutsche Bank. Leo ChiangEquity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank00:37:22Thank you management for taking my question. My question is also regarding to overseas business. In Q1, overseas revenue was over RMB400 million and Sochou was close to maybe 300,000,000. Does that mean that the other two apps that started to monetize me last year has combined if need a 100,000,000 in quarterly revenue? Could management share the growth plan of these two products and your estimation of overseas revenue this year? Thank you. Moderator00:38:29From a revenue perspective, SoChew is currently our largest and most successful overseas product. Our other two social entertainment products targeting The Middle East also achieved significant breakthrough progress at the end of last year and the beginning of this year. This was mainly driven by improved user retention and channel marketing efficiency, which lead to significant improvement in user acquisition ROI. We believe that both products are well positioned for rapid scaling and are expected to maintain strong growth momentum from their Q1 levels. In addition to these three social entertainment products, our overseas revenue also includes Tantan's overseas business. Moderator00:39:50Tantan has always been a mainstream brand among overseas Chinese communities and Southeast Asian markets. As Sig mentioned, we established a strong overseas product operation team in Singapore last year, tasked with managing international dating products, including Tantan. We have always been very bullish on the prospects of dating products in overseas markets, particularly in developed regions. Hello Group holds unique competitive advantages in this sector, and dating market will be a key focus in our international expansion strategy. Overall speaking, we are very satisfied with the overall performance of our overseas business. Moderator00:40:52Undoubtedly, the proportion of revenue and profit from overseas operations will continue to increase, and it will soon become a true growth engine for the group. As for our revenue expectations for overseas market this year, Cassie can provide more details. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:41:12Let me take the more quantitative question on the overseas revenue outlook. This is the first quarter where we've broken out overseas versus domestic revenue. And I think it's an important milestone in understanding our global growth trajectory. I'm going to perhaps address this question from several perspectives. Firstly, if you look at where the overseas revenue come from, in Q1 twenty twenty five, overseas revenue accounted for 16% of total revenue. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:41:57Within this overseas piece, Sochio remains the largest contributor, making up approximately from 60 to 70% of our overseas revenue in Q1. The second largest contributor is the overseas piece of Tantan, which is primarily a subscription based dating product. That piece contributed around 10% of the overseas revenue. Beyond these two, we also have several emerging brands such as Yahalan, Ammar, and others that make up the remaining share. Together, this portfolio approach under Hello Group umbrella has driven robust growth internationally. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:42:49And the second point here is, in terms of growth dynamics in different sectors, we see two major forces behind the over 70% year over year, oversea revenue growth. First of all, the social entertainment market in The Middle East and North Africa, which we call MENA area, has been a major opportunity. While there are some more established players in the region, the market is large and diverse enough to support multiple platforms. Our entry to MENA market through brands such as Sochio, Yahalan, and Ammar has been informed by years of product iteration and operational learning. Over the past few years, we've developed a playbook from launching all the way to scaling that we can replicate across different brands in that region. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:43:45This matters because MENA, when you think about MENA, it isn't a single uniform market. It actually spans multiple countries' demographics and user behaviors. For example, what works in The Gulf countries may not work in North Africa. So, having a modular portfolio driven kind of strategy and the operational agility to localize quickly has been a significant advantage for us. That playbook is now a real asset. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:44:19Other than the social entertainment opportunities in the MENA area, our growth down the path will also be increasingly driven by the overseas dating market as well. The overseas dating market, particularly through Tantan, is starting to turn a corner. Tantan's performance had been uneven in the past as we try to play balancing act between dating and more entertaining features such as live streaming and chat rooms. Such balancing act, as some of you may know, a lot of times have been pretty uncomfortable for both C users and ourselves. What we've learned, especially over the last year, is that users, particularly in more developed markets, want to focus an authentic one to one dating experience. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:45:11As a result, we've refined the product strategy to prioritize coordinating functionality and slim down the more peripheral entertainment features. We've also made structural changes by relocating global marketing and operations for dating to Singapore. The Singapore team brings deep experience and expertise in running international dating platforms, and it's already proven effective. Combined with China's world class engineering capabilities, especially in product iterations, we now have both the local insight and the engineering horsepower to compete globally. We believe this positions us well to scale our dating brands across the international markets. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:46:03I hope this elaboration gives you guys a clear backdrop against which you can better understand the reason for the rapid growth of our overseas business. Now, let me give you the numbers to work with your models. As you can see, Sochou grew 38% year over year in Q1, but the rest of the oversea portfolio, Tantan, Yahalan, Amar, and others grew at a triple digit rate. This drove total overseas revenue growth of over 70% year on year in Q1. Looking ahead into the coming few quarters, we expect overseas growth to see further acceleration even beyond this 70% level. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:46:58This growth will increasingly be driven by non social brands, thanks to the dual engine of social entertainment in MENA and the rebound of our dating business. We believe this combination give us a strong momentum and diversified exposure across several high growth segments internationally. I hope this addresses your question. And now back to Ashley for more questions. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:47:27Hi, operator. Please take the next question. Operator00:47:29Your next question comes from Thomas Chong with Jefferies. Thomas ChongManaging Director at Jefferies00:47:57Thanks management for taking my question. We have seen Momo and Tantan undergone a number of changes in 2024. How should we think about the 2025 outlook? And how should we think about the China revenue for this year? Thank you. Moderator00:49:19For mature brands like Momo and Tantan, our goal is to stabilize user scale and engagement while ensuring profitability. However, for social brands that have been around for over a decade, maintaining fundamental social matrix is no easy feat. So our product team has put considerable efforts into using new technologies to enhance users' social experience. For example, as Sig mentioned earlier, we provide male users with our self developed AI tools to analyze the historical posts of female users and generate personalized greeting messages. This is a very practical social tool for Asian male who are not very adept at initiating conversations. Moderator00:50:07If the male users feel that the content and phrases generated by AI do not match their personality and their style of expression, they can request the AI to continuously adjust the greeting messages until they are satisfied. We have now replicated this technology in Tantan and allowing more users who are eager to find dates, but lack certain skills to benefit from it. Since the beginning of the year, enhancement in product operations and matching algorithm have driven year on year and sequential growth in several key metrics of the Momo social ecosystem. This includes retention rate, two way chats, the number of two way chats and female ratio, all of which reflect increased user engagement. A stable and highly engaged user base forms the cornerstone that allows our Cash Cow business to sustain its profitability. Moderator00:51:53Regarding Tantan, we implemented further cost efficiency measures in both channel investment and personnel expenses in Q1. The ROI improvement brought by reduced marketing spend has far exceeded our expectations, creating greater operational flexibility for continuous product experience optimization. As for this year's domestic revenue performance, I will leave Cassie to address those details. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:52:26Okay. In Q1, Mainland China's revenue declined by high single digit on a year over year basis. For Q2, we are guiding to a Y o Y decline in the low teens percentage. Looking at the full year, we expect the decline rate to remain roughly in line with the first half, which translates to a 10% plusminus year over year decrease for the full year for the domestic piece. This represents a significant narrowing from the high teens year over year decrease that we saw in 2024 versus 2023, which shows continuous stabilization of the domestic business. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:53:16Now, let me briefly review the primary factors that drives our domestic business trajectory, so you guys can put our estimation into perspective and maybe form your own view about how things may play out in the second half of twenty twenty five. Firstly, macro sentiment remains a swing factor. Momo's revenue is heavily tied to value added services, particularly virtual gifting, which depends on discretionary entertainment spending of higher income users. Spending sentiment among this group is closely linked to their personal financial outlook, and that in turn tracks with macroeconomic indicators. A lot of times how the equity market is performing. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:54:10In Q1, what we saw was a short term boost around Chinese New Year, supported by some optimism in the equity markets. However, as we enter into Q2, macroeconomic and geopolitical uncertainties such as tariffs began to resurface. But for now, appears stable, and our Q2 guidance reflects that. That said, the outlook for the second half will depend still depend heavily on broader macro developments. And the second big factor here is regulatory environment. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:54:58On that front, we've seen meaningful improvement in the regulatory landscape over the past few quarters. With that stability, we've shifted from a defensive risk management posture back to normal product development and operational execution. Other than the macro and the regulatory drivers, the third factor that has an impact on our domestic revenue performance is the new strategy and restructuring of the domestic part of Tantan business, as explained by Sikh in her prepared remarks. Starting in March 2025, we made the strategic decision to sharply reduce marketing and personnel expenses on the domestic side of Tantan. The goal here was to improve the ROI of our user acquisition and support profitability for Tantan's domestic business. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:55:59Naturally, the cut in spend will have a negative impact on Tantan's top line. However, because after the cutting, we are seeing significant improvement in ROI of our user acquisition efforts, the decline in top line cost by cutting was pretty mild and manageable. This came as a pleasant surprise for us. For Tantan's domestic business, we also expect the Y o Y decrease to narrow down from what we saw in 2024, and we expect the bottom line to come in much better than what we saw last year. Lastly, I would like to say a few words beyond the domestic performance at group level. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:56:52Investors should already notice that our Q1 revenue showed a slight only a slight year over year decrease of a couple of percentage points. In Q2, we are guiding similar level of decrease Y o Y. However, with continuous stabilization of domestic business and acceleration of growth from overseas business, it's possible that we are going to see group level top line turn to positive growth in the second half of the year. If that happens, it would be a major structural turning point for us. Well, I hope this addresses your question. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:57:34Maybe one given time, maybe half of the last Yes. Ashley JingDirector of IR at Hello Group00:57:38Operator, do we have any more questions queuing on the line? If we do, let's just take one last one before we close the call. Thank you. Operator00:57:48Yes. Your next question comes from Jenny Wang with UBS. Jennifer HuangDirector, Group Corporate Services at UBS Group00:58:16So let me translate myself. So thanks, members, for taking my question. First of all, congrats on the strong first quarter results. My question is on the margin side. So, Kathy, you got us through the full year revenue outlook earlier. Jennifer HuangDirector, Group Corporate Services at UBS Group00:58:32So could you please also give us some color in terms of our profit outlook for for this year and how expenses are expected to be managed and allocated into the rest of the year? Thank you. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:58:47Sure. I guess that's my job. Let me take the margin and bottom line question. Maybe I'll break it down into a few key components. First of all, if you look at gross margin, our Q1 non GAAP gross margin came in at approximately 38%, reflecting a little bit more than three percentage point decline year over year from Q1 twenty twenty four. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:59:24The biggest driver towards such margin decline was the mix shift toward an increasingly bigger overseas revenue contribution. Gross margins are lower for overseas business, primarily because, A, payment channel costs are higher, and B, many overseas applications are still in the early stage of scaling, where efficiency hasn't kicked in yet. As the overseas business continues to grow as a percentage of total revenue, we expect to see similar level of Y o Y decline for the whole year 2025. Meaning, 2024, we reported a 39% non GAAP gross margin for the full year. For 2025, we anticipate a decline of a couple of percentage points, putting us in the range between 36% to 37%. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group01:00:28Over the longer term, though, as overseas application scale and payout ratios decline, we expect gross margin improvement and leverage gains. Turning to operating expenses. First of all, R and D and G and A expenses. With continued personnel optimization, both R and D and G and A expenses are expected to decrease slightly in absolute dollar terms in 2025 versus 2024. With regards to sales and marketing, we anticipate around 10% year over year increase in sales and marketing spend. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group01:01:12This increase is driven by our rapid expansion in overseas markets where we are acquiring new users and growing market share. It's important to note that all marketing investments are ROI driven. That means we only increase spend when data give us confidence in cost recovery over time. So, if you try to put all these together and think about adjusted operating margin for the whole year, again in 2024, our non GAAP operating margin was, I think, somewhere around 16%. For 2025, we expect a margin in the low teens percentage, likely within the 13% to 14% range as we absorb the near term gross margin pressure, as well as ramp up the marketing investments in overseas market. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group01:02:14So that's my answer to the bottom line. Back to Ashley to wrap up the call. Ashley JingDirector of IR at Hello Group01:02:22Yeah, I think that's it today. Thank you for joining us. See you next quarter. Operator01:02:29That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the First Quarter twenty twenty five Hello Group Inc. Earnings Conference Call. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Ms. Ashley Zhang. Thank you. Please go ahead, ma'am. Ashley JingDirector of IR at Hello Group00:00:22Thank you, operator. Good morning and good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for Hello Group's first quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. The company's results were released earlier today and are available on the company's IR website. On the call today are Mr. Tang Yan, CEO of the company Ms. Jiang Sichuan, COO of the company and Ms. Peng Hui, CFO of the company. They'll discuss the company's business operations and highlights as well as the financials and guidance. They'll all be available to answer your questions during the Q and A session that follows. Ashley JingDirector of IR at Hello Group00:00:53Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this call may contain forward looking statements made under the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are based on management's current expectations and current market and operating conditions and relate to events that involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, all of which are difficult to predict and many of which are beyond the company's control, which may cause the company's actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from those in the forward looking statements. Further information regarding this and other risks, uncertainties and factors is included in the company's filings with the U. S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Ashley JingDirector of IR at Hello Group00:01:34The company does not undertake any obligation to update any forward looking statements as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required under law. I now pass the call over to our COO, Ms. Jiangsuan. Ms. Jiangsuan, please. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:01:49Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining our call. Q1 was a solid quarter and a good start to 2025. Next, I will review our strategic priorities for the year and provide updates on execution. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:02:06Before getting into the financials, investors who have reviewed our Q1 earnings will notice that we have disclosed geographical breakdowns on revenue levels. Over the past few years, with the rapid development of overseas businesses, their revenue contribution to the group is getting increasingly prominent. In Q1, overseas revenue accounted for 16% of total revenue, up from less than 10% in Q1 twenty four. We expect this percentage to continue growing rapidly in the coming quarters. We believe that the geographical revenue breakdown helps investors better help to track our progress in our overseas development. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:02:59Next, let's dive into the details of Q1. Starting with an overview of financial performance. For Q1 twenty twenty five, total group revenue was RMB2.52 billion, exceeding the high end of our guidance, and was slightly down 1.5% year over year. Domestic revenue reached RMB2.11 billion, down 9% year over year. Overseas revenue reached RMB415 million, with accelerated year over year growth of 72%. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:03:43Adjusted operating income was RMB315 million, down 33% from q one last year with a margin of 14%, down six percentage points from the same previous last year. On last earning call, I outlined several key priorities for 2025. For Momo, our goal is to maintain the productivity of this catch car business with a healthy social ecosystem. For Tanjiang, our goal is to improve its core dating experience and build an efficient business model that drives profitable growth. As for the new endeavors, our goal is to continue deepening our presence in overseas markets, enriching our brand portfolio, and building a long term growth engine. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:04:41Since the beginning of the year, we have made strong progress across all three fronts. Let me walk you through the details. First, our mobile app. At the product level, we continue to optimize interactive features that facilitate users in making meaningful connections and maintaining interactions with the goal of enhancing social experience and stabilizing user base scale. As mentioned earlier, we have developed an in house AI algorithm that generates personalized reading for male users by analyzing the historical test or image post of female users. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:05:28Data shows that the response rate for AI generated greeting is significantly higher than that of user generated ones. Since we fully rolled out this feature, the response rate to greetings has continued to rise. On the user acquisition front, to ensure stable productivity of the Cash Cow business, In q one, we trimmed inefficient channels with ROI below 80% and gradually terminated cooperation with underperforming ones. The average user acquisition cost narrowed slightly from last quarter, thanks to the improved channel efficiency and enhanced user onboarding and conversion capabilities. User retention remained stable despite a double digit increase in user acquisition. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:06:26A significant reduction in channel investment with negative ROI has resulted in a substantial decline in long tail paying users. In Q1, Momo app had 4,200,000 paying users, a sequential decrease of 1,500,000. Since the long tail paying users abandoned by channels has relatively low engagement and spending, the absence of this group did not have much negative impact on overall user activity and revenue. Instead, it helped a positive role in improving overall profits. The continuously improving user acquisition ROI in the past two quarters has proved that such a strategy is very effective, and we plan to continue with this effort. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:07:25Now on the productivity of Momo Cash Cow business. In q one, Momo's value added services, previously known as live streaming and VAS, but combined as value added service from this quarter, revenue totaled RMB1.78 billion, down less than 10% year over year. The decline never from last year, mainly because we completed our proactive demonetization operational adjustments by the end of twenty twenty four. We believe that the content ecosystem of the platform is now at a relatively satisfactory level. The annual decline was mainly attributed to standing witness among top paying users caused by microfetters. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:08:21We have introduced new operational events and gifting features tailored for Mii cohort users across audio and video scenarios. We adjusted the recommendation algorithm in chat room to better align with the social preferences of mid cohort users, driving growth in both penetration rates and user scale of the chat room experience. Moreover, we launched new ice breaking paying features to boost spending among mid cohort, which partially offset the revenue pressure caused by the declines of top paying users. The increase in revenue contribution from chat room, which has a relatively lower revenue sharing ratio, alongside a scale back of revenue oriented live streaming operation events, has together placed a positive role in stabilizing growth margin amidst revenue pressure. Turning to In recent years, the strategy of cost reduction and efficiency improvement combined with product adjustments has put sustained pressure on Tantan's user base and revenue. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:09:47To maintain profitability, we further reduced Tantan's marketing spend in q one. The decrease in channel traffic has put some pressure on the overall user scale. However, we are pleased to see that thanks to gradual improvements in the ecosystem and product experience. Organic traffic, primarily from returning users, has continued to grow steadily, largely offsetting the decrease caused by reduced marketing spend. In March, Tantan's MAU was 10,700,000.0, a slight decline of 1% quarter over quarter. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:10:32As of the end of Q1, Pantan had 800,000 paying users, a decrease of 60,000 from previous quarter. This was mainly due to the ongoing product upgrade, which is improving user experience but has a short term negative impact on paying conversion. While we are rolling out testing features to a larger pool of users, the paying ratio declined slightly from the last quarter. Turning to Tantan's financials. Revenue from the onshore business in Q1 was close to million, down 19% year over year. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:11:18The decrease was due to the declines in paying user accounts, whereas ARPU grew by double digits, partially offsetting revenue pressure. On the product front, in q one, we wrapped up the product upgrade launched last year with a focus on enhancing user authenticity through scale product testing, which further increased the user verification rate. On the channel front, our goal was to achieve 100% ROI, namely recover all fixed and variable costs, including labor, s three abandoned channels, which that could not be fully recouped. Overall, marketing spending decreased further from last quarter, and the average user acquisition cost dropped by double digits. Combined with minor product driven improvements in ARPU, this has led to a significant sequential increase in user acquisition ROI. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:12:35Currently, channel ROI has far exceeded 100%, which is the key to achieving quarterly profit growth despite revenue pressure in q one. On the commercial product front, to mitigate the revenue pressure caused by the decline in paying users, We upgraded membership features to boost ARPU. At the same time, we moderately increased promotion efforts to offset the negative impact of product optimization on paying conversion. As for the overseas business, in Q1, overseas revenue reached RMB415 million, with accelerated year over year growth of 72%. Overseas revenue accounted for 16.4% of total group revenue, up from 9.4% in Q1 twenty twenty four. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:13:41Over the past few years, our overseas revenue has mainly come from our voice based social product, social, in the MENA market. When social has maintained rapid growth, we believe that due to the fragmented nature of the social entertainment space and the diversified and nuanced user experiences, in order to expand our market share in MENA regions more effectively and efficiently. We need other brands in addition to short term. As we have accumulated more products and operational experience in MENA, we build up our local team. We have launched more independent brands in recent years to meet different user groups' online social entertainment needs. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:14:36During our SoChoose success, we have developed Lever, a playbook for the zero to one development of social entertain Operator00:16:15Hi. The conference has recommenced. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:16:19Okay. I will continue. Since the beginning of 2025, we have wrapped up a channel investment for new products. The ROI oriented channel strategy has driven the revenue of new products to exceed our initial expectations. This is the main reason for the accelerated year on year growth of overseas revenue in q one. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:16:45Currently, the overseas revenue increment can largely offset the no domestic revenue decline. In q one, show two, which generated the highest revenue amount overseas apps, brought in close to 300,000,000 RMB, representing a year on year growth of nearly 40%. The growth was mainly driven by localized operation over the past years and improved cross border collaboration between front and back end teams, enabling Sochio to achieve satisfactory results in both expansion into new markets and launch of new features. On a quarterly basis, revenue growth faced pressure due to political unrest in The Middle East at the end of last year, coupled with Ramadan, during which users' spending sentiment was depressed. However, I'm pleased to see that our team was able to adjust operational strategy promptly to mitigate the negative impact of these uncertainties, which plays a positive role in stabilizing revenue. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:18:07Apart from Sochill, our audio based social game product Yahaland, and voice based social product Ama have recently entered the monetization phase and have delivered a stable ROI since we increased marketing investment at the beginning of this year. As a result, we further increased marketing spend, which drives significant quarterly revenue growth for both products. Beyond pursuing top line growth, our team also focused on optimizing the revenue sharing model and driving high margin features revenue to improve overall gross profit. These efforts laid the solid foundation for achieving operational breakeven. We are confident that the team will reach this goal by the year end. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:19:06Our goal for the overseas market is not limited to social and entertainment products in the MENA region. HelloGroup is the operator of Asia's largest open social platform. We understand Asian's user preferences and pain points in discovering new relationships and building meaningful interactions better than other players in the market. Therefore, we are confident that we should be playing a key role in global dating market. Currently, we have set up a team in Singapore with deep expertise in overseas dating operation and marketing. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:19:49Moving forward, we expect to push harder on building a better dating experience and brands for users seeking romantic relationship. This concludes my remarks. Now let me pass the call to Kathy for the financial review. Kathy, please. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:20:19Thanks, Sik. Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining our conference call today. Before getting into the financials, let me first outline the adjustments we've made to our disclosure practice starting this quarter. Number one, we've introduced a geographical breakdown of revenues to more accurately reflect the rapidly growing and increasingly significant overseas business. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:20:48Number two, given that the line between live streaming and value added services is becoming increasingly blurred, and these two are really in subsidence all fee based revenues where we directly charge the users for value added services, and in many cases, in turn share part of the revenues with content providers. We've merged the two business lines into one, which we now refer to as value added services. Number three, given that TanTan's revenue accounts for less than 10% of the group's total revenue, we've discontinued its segment reporting. Now, let me take you through the financial review. Total revenue for the first quarter twenty twenty five was RMB2.52 billion, down 2% year on year and 4% quarter on quarter, exceeding the high end of our revenue guidance. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:21:48Non GAAP net income attributable to the company was RMB403.8 million compared to RMB59.9 million for the same period last year and RMB230.5 million from Q4 'twenty four. In the first and last quarter of twenty twenty four, we had some one off tax and impairment related expenses. Excluding these special items, net income for Q1 twenty twenty four and Q4 twenty twenty four would have been RMB508.5 million and RMB371.1 million, respectively. Looking into the key revenue items for Q1. Total revenue from value added services, the sum of revenues from former live streaming and VAS, but combined as value added services from this quarter was RMB2.49 billion, down 2% year on year and 4% quarter on quarter. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:22:52On a user geography basis, VAS PRC Mainland revenue was RMB2.08 billion, down 9% year over year and 7% quarter over quarter. The year over year decrease was mainly due to the weak consumer sentiment caused by macro factors, which put pressure on Momo business. And to a lesser extent, the decrease in Tantan due to the decline in the number of paying users. The sequential decrease was due to negative seasonality. VAS overseas revenue came in at 4,000,000, up 73% year over year and 16% quarter over quarter. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:23:39The year over year growth was driven by both the rapid expansion of Sochill and the initial monetization of a few emerging brands. Turning to costs and expenses. Non GAAP cost of revenue for the first quarter of twenty twenty five was RMB1.57 billion compared to RMB1.50 billion for the same period last year. Non GAAP gross margin for the quarter was 37.9%, down 3.5 percentage points from the year ago period. The year over year decrease was due to a number of factors. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:24:17Number one, higher payout ratio, which in turn was due to two factors. One is that overseas business contributed a larger percentage of total revenue while having a higher payout ratio, especially during the first regional expansion and initial phase of live streaming service offering. And to a lesser degree, slightly higher payout from mobile app to incentivize the supply side considering the downward revenue trend. Number two, optimization of personnel, which led to an increase in one off severance payments. Number three, payment channel costs and infrastructure expenses constitute a higher percentage of revenues as the revenue mix shifts toward overseas business, where these fees as a percentage of revenues are higher compared to domestic business. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:25:13Non GAAP R and D expenses for the first quarter was RMB185.9 million compared to RMB183.4 million for the same period last year, representing a 1% increase year over year. The increase was attributed to severance payments associated with personnel optimization. Non GAAP R expenses remained stable at 7% of revenue, consistent with the figure from the previous year. We ended the quarter with thirteen thirty six total employees compared to thirteen seventy five from a year ago. The R and D personnel as a percentage of total employees for the group was 58% compared with 62% from Q1 last year. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:26:05Non GAAP sales and marketing expenses for the first quarter was RMB 3 and 22,100,000.0 or 13% of total revenue compared to RMB 287,300,000.0 RMB or 11% of total revenue for the same period last year. The year over year increase was attributable to the increase in channel investment for the overseas apps, whereas marketing spend for the PRC Mainland business narrowed due to Tantan's ongoing cost control strategy. Non GAAP G and A expenses was RMB114.8 million for the first quarter compared to RMB93.5 million for the same quarter last year, representing a 54% of total revenue respectively. Non GAAP operating income was RMB345.3 million with a margin of 13.7% compared with RMB516.0 million with a margin of 20.1% from the same period last year. Non GAAP operating expenses as a percentage of total revenue was 25%, an increase from 22% from Q1 twenty twenty four. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:27:32Now briefly on income tax expenses. Total income tax expenses was million for the quarter, with an effective tax rate of 16. In Q1, the company accrued withholding income tax of RMB12.9 million, which is 5% of undistributed profit generated by our RoFE. Without the withholding tax, our estimated non GAAP effective tax rate was around 13% in the first quarter. Now turning to balance sheet and cash flow items. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:28:09As of 03/31/2025, Hello Group's cash, cash equivalents, short term deposits, long term deposits and restricted cash totaled billion compared to RMB14.73 billion as of 12/31/2024. The decrease in cash reserves was largely attributable to the repayment of RMB1.74 billion bank loan, including accrued interest. Net cash provided by operating activities in the first quarter of twenty twenty five was RMB29.7 million. Lastly, on business outlook, we estimated our second quarter revenue to come in the range from RMB 2,570,000,000.00 to RMB 2,600,000,000.0, representing a decrease of 4.5% to 0.8% year on year. This is based on the assumption that on a year over year basis, PRC Mainland business will decrease mid to low teens percentage, while overseas revenue is expected to achieve more than 80 growth. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:29:30Please be mindful that this forecast represents the company's current and preliminary view on the market and operational conditions, which are subject to change. That concluded our prepared portion of today's discussion. With that, let me turn the call back to Ashley to start Q and A. Ashley JingDirector of IR at Hello Group00:29:51Ashley, please. Thank you. Just a quick reminder before we take the questions. For those who can speak Chinese, please ask your questions in Chinese first and followed by English translation by yourself. Thank you. Operator, we're ready for questions. Operator00:30:04Thank you. Your first question comes from Zhuking Zhang with CICC. Xueqing ZhangAnalyst at China International Capital Corporation (CICC)00:31:10Congratulations on your strong quarter and the remarkable growth of OMC's business. My question about Sochou. On the first quarter earnings call, the management mentioned that Sochou achieved 52% revenue growth in 2024. And management mentioned just now that Sochou's year on year growth in Q1 were less than 42 percentage. Apart from high base effect, are there any other areas causing a slowdown in revenue, such as market competition, consumption, and other concerns? Xueqing ZhangAnalyst at China International Capital Corporation (CICC)00:31:45What does the management think about the revenue signing for social and what's the profit guidance for the future? Thank you. Moderator00:32:56Indeed, last year, SoQiu achieved revenue growth by strengthening localized operations, expanding into new markets and introducing video features. However, since the beginning of this year, the revenue growth has slowed down a little bit. And this country this can be attributed not only to a high base effect, but also the political unrest in The Middle East at the end of last year, which dampened some users' consumption sentiment, a trend that continued into Q1 of this year. To mitigate the impact of the event driven revenue pressure, we beefed up our efforts to acquire paying users through various channels and introduced new features designed to facilitate relationship building and improve user engagement. The enhancement in user experience has positively impacted retention. Moderator00:33:52Additionally, during Ramadan, we organized several operational events, resulting in more stable user fluctuations compared to previous years. This helped in the rapid recovery of user activities and spending after the Ramadan. So as for the competition concerns just mentioned, although The Middle East hosts a rich variety of social entertainment products, the market remains highly fragmented. That's why we haven't experienced a significant competitive pressure. The resilience can also be attributed to our extensive experience in product development and operations within this sector. Moderator00:35:13Last year, Sohu's revenue was close to RMB1 billion, and we believe it still has greater growth potential. But however, to achieve this goal, we need to go beyond Sochio's current market penetration and product offering. This is precisely why we must continue to expand into new markets, deepen our presence in existing regions and drive continuous product innovation. So in terms of profit, Sohu has maintained solid earnings in the recent years. However, during this phase of rapid revenue growth and ongoing efforts to enhance market penetration, we will not prioritize margin expansion. Moderator00:36:18Instead, we will maintain strict control over channel ROI. As long as our user acquisition remains profitable, we will reinvest the incremental profit into user acquisition channels and strengthen localized operations. I hope that answers your question. So operator, please take the next one. Thank you. Operator00:36:39Your next question comes from Riyo Xiang with Deutsche Bank. Leo ChiangEquity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank00:37:22Thank you management for taking my question. My question is also regarding to overseas business. In Q1, overseas revenue was over RMB400 million and Sochou was close to maybe 300,000,000. Does that mean that the other two apps that started to monetize me last year has combined if need a 100,000,000 in quarterly revenue? Could management share the growth plan of these two products and your estimation of overseas revenue this year? Thank you. Moderator00:38:29From a revenue perspective, SoChew is currently our largest and most successful overseas product. Our other two social entertainment products targeting The Middle East also achieved significant breakthrough progress at the end of last year and the beginning of this year. This was mainly driven by improved user retention and channel marketing efficiency, which lead to significant improvement in user acquisition ROI. We believe that both products are well positioned for rapid scaling and are expected to maintain strong growth momentum from their Q1 levels. In addition to these three social entertainment products, our overseas revenue also includes Tantan's overseas business. Moderator00:39:50Tantan has always been a mainstream brand among overseas Chinese communities and Southeast Asian markets. As Sig mentioned, we established a strong overseas product operation team in Singapore last year, tasked with managing international dating products, including Tantan. We have always been very bullish on the prospects of dating products in overseas markets, particularly in developed regions. Hello Group holds unique competitive advantages in this sector, and dating market will be a key focus in our international expansion strategy. Overall speaking, we are very satisfied with the overall performance of our overseas business. Moderator00:40:52Undoubtedly, the proportion of revenue and profit from overseas operations will continue to increase, and it will soon become a true growth engine for the group. As for our revenue expectations for overseas market this year, Cassie can provide more details. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:41:12Let me take the more quantitative question on the overseas revenue outlook. This is the first quarter where we've broken out overseas versus domestic revenue. And I think it's an important milestone in understanding our global growth trajectory. I'm going to perhaps address this question from several perspectives. Firstly, if you look at where the overseas revenue come from, in Q1 twenty twenty five, overseas revenue accounted for 16% of total revenue. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:41:57Within this overseas piece, Sochio remains the largest contributor, making up approximately from 60 to 70% of our overseas revenue in Q1. The second largest contributor is the overseas piece of Tantan, which is primarily a subscription based dating product. That piece contributed around 10% of the overseas revenue. Beyond these two, we also have several emerging brands such as Yahalan, Ammar, and others that make up the remaining share. Together, this portfolio approach under Hello Group umbrella has driven robust growth internationally. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:42:49And the second point here is, in terms of growth dynamics in different sectors, we see two major forces behind the over 70% year over year, oversea revenue growth. First of all, the social entertainment market in The Middle East and North Africa, which we call MENA area, has been a major opportunity. While there are some more established players in the region, the market is large and diverse enough to support multiple platforms. Our entry to MENA market through brands such as Sochio, Yahalan, and Ammar has been informed by years of product iteration and operational learning. Over the past few years, we've developed a playbook from launching all the way to scaling that we can replicate across different brands in that region. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:43:45This matters because MENA, when you think about MENA, it isn't a single uniform market. It actually spans multiple countries' demographics and user behaviors. For example, what works in The Gulf countries may not work in North Africa. So, having a modular portfolio driven kind of strategy and the operational agility to localize quickly has been a significant advantage for us. That playbook is now a real asset. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:44:19Other than the social entertainment opportunities in the MENA area, our growth down the path will also be increasingly driven by the overseas dating market as well. The overseas dating market, particularly through Tantan, is starting to turn a corner. Tantan's performance had been uneven in the past as we try to play balancing act between dating and more entertaining features such as live streaming and chat rooms. Such balancing act, as some of you may know, a lot of times have been pretty uncomfortable for both C users and ourselves. What we've learned, especially over the last year, is that users, particularly in more developed markets, want to focus an authentic one to one dating experience. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:45:11As a result, we've refined the product strategy to prioritize coordinating functionality and slim down the more peripheral entertainment features. We've also made structural changes by relocating global marketing and operations for dating to Singapore. The Singapore team brings deep experience and expertise in running international dating platforms, and it's already proven effective. Combined with China's world class engineering capabilities, especially in product iterations, we now have both the local insight and the engineering horsepower to compete globally. We believe this positions us well to scale our dating brands across the international markets. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:46:03I hope this elaboration gives you guys a clear backdrop against which you can better understand the reason for the rapid growth of our overseas business. Now, let me give you the numbers to work with your models. As you can see, Sochou grew 38% year over year in Q1, but the rest of the oversea portfolio, Tantan, Yahalan, Amar, and others grew at a triple digit rate. This drove total overseas revenue growth of over 70% year on year in Q1. Looking ahead into the coming few quarters, we expect overseas growth to see further acceleration even beyond this 70% level. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:46:58This growth will increasingly be driven by non social brands, thanks to the dual engine of social entertainment in MENA and the rebound of our dating business. We believe this combination give us a strong momentum and diversified exposure across several high growth segments internationally. I hope this addresses your question. And now back to Ashley for more questions. Sichuan ZhangCOO & Director at Hello Group00:47:27Hi, operator. Please take the next question. Operator00:47:29Your next question comes from Thomas Chong with Jefferies. Thomas ChongManaging Director at Jefferies00:47:57Thanks management for taking my question. We have seen Momo and Tantan undergone a number of changes in 2024. How should we think about the 2025 outlook? And how should we think about the China revenue for this year? Thank you. Moderator00:49:19For mature brands like Momo and Tantan, our goal is to stabilize user scale and engagement while ensuring profitability. However, for social brands that have been around for over a decade, maintaining fundamental social matrix is no easy feat. So our product team has put considerable efforts into using new technologies to enhance users' social experience. For example, as Sig mentioned earlier, we provide male users with our self developed AI tools to analyze the historical posts of female users and generate personalized greeting messages. This is a very practical social tool for Asian male who are not very adept at initiating conversations. Moderator00:50:07If the male users feel that the content and phrases generated by AI do not match their personality and their style of expression, they can request the AI to continuously adjust the greeting messages until they are satisfied. We have now replicated this technology in Tantan and allowing more users who are eager to find dates, but lack certain skills to benefit from it. Since the beginning of the year, enhancement in product operations and matching algorithm have driven year on year and sequential growth in several key metrics of the Momo social ecosystem. This includes retention rate, two way chats, the number of two way chats and female ratio, all of which reflect increased user engagement. A stable and highly engaged user base forms the cornerstone that allows our Cash Cow business to sustain its profitability. Moderator00:51:53Regarding Tantan, we implemented further cost efficiency measures in both channel investment and personnel expenses in Q1. The ROI improvement brought by reduced marketing spend has far exceeded our expectations, creating greater operational flexibility for continuous product experience optimization. As for this year's domestic revenue performance, I will leave Cassie to address those details. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:52:26Okay. In Q1, Mainland China's revenue declined by high single digit on a year over year basis. For Q2, we are guiding to a Y o Y decline in the low teens percentage. Looking at the full year, we expect the decline rate to remain roughly in line with the first half, which translates to a 10% plusminus year over year decrease for the full year for the domestic piece. This represents a significant narrowing from the high teens year over year decrease that we saw in 2024 versus 2023, which shows continuous stabilization of the domestic business. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:53:16Now, let me briefly review the primary factors that drives our domestic business trajectory, so you guys can put our estimation into perspective and maybe form your own view about how things may play out in the second half of twenty twenty five. Firstly, macro sentiment remains a swing factor. Momo's revenue is heavily tied to value added services, particularly virtual gifting, which depends on discretionary entertainment spending of higher income users. Spending sentiment among this group is closely linked to their personal financial outlook, and that in turn tracks with macroeconomic indicators. A lot of times how the equity market is performing. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:54:10In Q1, what we saw was a short term boost around Chinese New Year, supported by some optimism in the equity markets. However, as we enter into Q2, macroeconomic and geopolitical uncertainties such as tariffs began to resurface. But for now, appears stable, and our Q2 guidance reflects that. That said, the outlook for the second half will depend still depend heavily on broader macro developments. And the second big factor here is regulatory environment. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:54:58On that front, we've seen meaningful improvement in the regulatory landscape over the past few quarters. With that stability, we've shifted from a defensive risk management posture back to normal product development and operational execution. Other than the macro and the regulatory drivers, the third factor that has an impact on our domestic revenue performance is the new strategy and restructuring of the domestic part of Tantan business, as explained by Sikh in her prepared remarks. Starting in March 2025, we made the strategic decision to sharply reduce marketing and personnel expenses on the domestic side of Tantan. The goal here was to improve the ROI of our user acquisition and support profitability for Tantan's domestic business. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:55:59Naturally, the cut in spend will have a negative impact on Tantan's top line. However, because after the cutting, we are seeing significant improvement in ROI of our user acquisition efforts, the decline in top line cost by cutting was pretty mild and manageable. This came as a pleasant surprise for us. For Tantan's domestic business, we also expect the Y o Y decrease to narrow down from what we saw in 2024, and we expect the bottom line to come in much better than what we saw last year. Lastly, I would like to say a few words beyond the domestic performance at group level. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:56:52Investors should already notice that our Q1 revenue showed a slight only a slight year over year decrease of a couple of percentage points. In Q2, we are guiding similar level of decrease Y o Y. However, with continuous stabilization of domestic business and acceleration of growth from overseas business, it's possible that we are going to see group level top line turn to positive growth in the second half of the year. If that happens, it would be a major structural turning point for us. Well, I hope this addresses your question. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:57:34Maybe one given time, maybe half of the last Yes. Ashley JingDirector of IR at Hello Group00:57:38Operator, do we have any more questions queuing on the line? If we do, let's just take one last one before we close the call. Thank you. Operator00:57:48Yes. Your next question comes from Jenny Wang with UBS. Jennifer HuangDirector, Group Corporate Services at UBS Group00:58:16So let me translate myself. So thanks, members, for taking my question. First of all, congrats on the strong first quarter results. My question is on the margin side. So, Kathy, you got us through the full year revenue outlook earlier. Jennifer HuangDirector, Group Corporate Services at UBS Group00:58:32So could you please also give us some color in terms of our profit outlook for for this year and how expenses are expected to be managed and allocated into the rest of the year? Thank you. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:58:47Sure. I guess that's my job. Let me take the margin and bottom line question. Maybe I'll break it down into a few key components. First of all, if you look at gross margin, our Q1 non GAAP gross margin came in at approximately 38%, reflecting a little bit more than three percentage point decline year over year from Q1 twenty twenty four. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group00:59:24The biggest driver towards such margin decline was the mix shift toward an increasingly bigger overseas revenue contribution. Gross margins are lower for overseas business, primarily because, A, payment channel costs are higher, and B, many overseas applications are still in the early stage of scaling, where efficiency hasn't kicked in yet. As the overseas business continues to grow as a percentage of total revenue, we expect to see similar level of Y o Y decline for the whole year 2025. Meaning, 2024, we reported a 39% non GAAP gross margin for the full year. For 2025, we anticipate a decline of a couple of percentage points, putting us in the range between 36% to 37%. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group01:00:28Over the longer term, though, as overseas application scale and payout ratios decline, we expect gross margin improvement and leverage gains. Turning to operating expenses. First of all, R and D and G and A expenses. With continued personnel optimization, both R and D and G and A expenses are expected to decrease slightly in absolute dollar terms in 2025 versus 2024. With regards to sales and marketing, we anticipate around 10% year over year increase in sales and marketing spend. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group01:01:12This increase is driven by our rapid expansion in overseas markets where we are acquiring new users and growing market share. It's important to note that all marketing investments are ROI driven. That means we only increase spend when data give us confidence in cost recovery over time. So, if you try to put all these together and think about adjusted operating margin for the whole year, again in 2024, our non GAAP operating margin was, I think, somewhere around 16%. For 2025, we expect a margin in the low teens percentage, likely within the 13% to 14% range as we absorb the near term gross margin pressure, as well as ramp up the marketing investments in overseas market. Cathy PengChief Financial Officer at Hello Group01:02:14So that's my answer to the bottom line. Back to Ashley to wrap up the call. Ashley JingDirector of IR at Hello Group01:02:22Yeah, I think that's it today. Thank you for joining us. See you next quarter. Operator01:02:29That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesAshley JingDirector of IRSichuan ZhangCOO & DirectorCathy PengChief Financial OfficerAnalystsXueqing ZhangAnalyst at China International Capital Corporation (CICC)ModeratorLeo ChiangEquity Research Analyst at Deutsche BankThomas ChongManaging Director at JefferiesJennifer HuangDirector, Group Corporate Services at UBS GroupPowered by