AON Q2 2025 Earnings Report

AON EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $3.49
• Consensus EPS: $3.40
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$0.09
• One Year Ago EPS: $2.93

AON Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $4.16 billion
• Expected Revenue: $4.16 billion
• Beat/Miss: Missed by -$1.51 million
• YoY Revenue Growth: +10.50%

AON Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q2 2025
• Date: 7/25/2025
• Time: Before Market Opens
• Conference Call Date: Friday, July 25, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 8:30AM ET

AON (NYSE:AON) is a leading global professional services firm that provides a broad range of risk, retirement and health solutions. The company acts as an intermediary between clients and insurers, offering insurance brokerage, reinsurance placements and expert advisory services across multiple lines, including property, casualty, cyber and specialty risks.

In addition to risk transfer and insurance broking, Aon delivers retirement consulting and investment advisory services, helping organizations design and manage defined benefit and defined contribution plans. The firm also offers health and benefits solutions, encompassing actuarial support, brokerage and administration for medical, dental and employee wellness programs.

Founded in 1982 and headquartered in London, Aon has expanded its global footprint through strategic acquisitions and alliances. The company maintains major operations in the Americas, EMEA and Asia-Pacific regions, serving clients ranging from multinational corporations and mid-sized enterprises to nonprofit organizations and public sector entities.

Aon’s executive leadership is led by CEO Greg Case, under whose tenure the firm has prioritized investments in data analytics, insurtech partnerships and digital platforms. This focus on innovation aims to enhance risk modeling, drive insights and improve decision-making for clients in an increasingly complex global environment.

AON Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Positive Sentiment: In Q2, Aon delivered 6% organic revenue growth, 19% adjusted EPS growth and 59% free cash flow growth, meeting its expectations.
• Positive Sentiment: Aon reaffirmed its 2025 full-year guidance, targeting mid single-digit or greater organic revenue growth, 80–90 basis points of margin expansion and double-digit free cash flow growth.
• Positive Sentiment: The Aon United strategy powered by Aon Business Services drove core market share gains, including winning a major investment firm’s U.S. and Global Benefits Advisory business.
• Positive Sentiment: Product innovation accelerated with the launch of Broker Copilot AI platform for real-time market insights and the debut of Aon Surge Stop Loss cyber reinsurance.
• Negative Sentiment: Management highlighted ongoing market uncertainty from shifting trade policies, escalating natural catastrophe losses and workforce impacts from AI, underscoring persistent operational risks.

Presentation

[Operator]

Good morning, and thank you for holding. At this time, all parties will be in a listen only mode until the question and answer portion of today's call. I would also like to remind all parties that this call is being recorded. If anyone has an objection, you may disconnect your line at this time. It is important to note that some of the comments in today's call may constitute certain statements that are forward looking in nature as defined by the Private Securities Reform Act of 1995.

[Operator]

Such statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from historical results or those anticipated. For information concerning these risk factors, please refer to our earnings release for this quarter and to our most recent quarterly or annual SEC filings, all of which are available on our website. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Greg Case, CEO of Aon plc. Thank you. Please go ahead.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Thank you, Donna. Good morning, and welcome to our second quarter earnings call. I'm joined today by Edmund Reese, our CFO. And as always, we posted a detailed financial presentation on our website, which Edmund will reference in his remarks. To begin, we want to take a moment to reflect on the momentum coming out of our Investor Day, where we detail why and how our client centric Aon United strategy drives sustainable top line growth and exceptional free cash flow per share growth.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Aon United, operationalized and accelerated by the 3x3 plan, is driving meaningful performance demonstrated in our Q2 results, with continued momentum as we enter the 2025 and look ahead to 2026. Let's start with some Q2 highlights. We delivered a strong quarter, in line with our expectations, including 6% organic revenue growth, 19% adjusted EPS growth and 59% free cash flow growth. For clients facing an increasingly complex operating environment, our work to deliver for them has never been more essential, and we remain confident in our ability to meet their evolving needs, both now and over the long term. At Investor Day, we discussed how market realities shaping the current operating landscape are complex and constantly evolving.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Clients of all sizes, industries and geographies are challenged with how to address and respond to the interconnected megatrends of trade, technology, weather and workforce, and the pressure is only growing. In the weeks following Investor Day alone, we've seen several major developments that demonstrate the impact and connectivity of these megatrends: the enactment of U. S. Tax legislation and continued shifts in the global tariff landscape severe flooding and convective storms across The U. S, alongside record breaking heat waves in both The U.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

S. And Europe, events that have driven historic first half catastrophe losses, disrupted supply chains, displaced workforces and caused widespread property damage and significant workforce changes announced by some of the world's largest technology companies, citing the accelerating impact of AI on roles and responsibilities. These events and many others reinforce the importance of our Aon United strategy as we help clients make better decisions and achieve better outcomes in what is arguably the most complex operating environment they've ever faced. Our strategy is working. As we detailed on Investor Day, the industrial strength foundation powering Aon United and driving sustainable top line growth and margin expansion is Aon Business Services.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

With ABS fully operationalized, we're winning more share in core markets, capturing demand in existing markets and creating new demand in new categories. Let me highlight a few specific examples from the second quarter. We are winning more in the core by deepening relationships with existing clients. One of the world's largest investment firms who previously engaged us solely on risk capital topics recently awarded us their U. S.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

And Global Benefits Advisory business. This win was driven by two key factors: First, our integrated risk capital and human capital structure is unique in our industry and allows clients to employ a holistic risk strategy across their full business. Leveraging our scale and analytics, this leading global company could see their business differently across their own internal silos. And second, our differentiated human capital analytics provide globally comparable insights that help them make better data driven decisions. We are also capturing demand in existing markets by developing new capabilities.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

In the second quarter, we launched Aon Broker Copilot and placed our first client program, a game changer for our brokers, advisers and clients. This capability leverages Aon's global scale, proprietary data and embedded AI to provide an enhanced view into how the global insurance market is pricing risk, arming our team with insights into real time market behavior. Broker Copilot augments predictive broking, enabling Aon brokers to match capital to risk in an unparalleled manner. And another example is how ABS assets support our colleagues to capture new demand and serve clients with superior solutions. And finally, we're creating new demand in new ways by innovating on behalf of clients in categories like cyber, an expected area to drive outsized growth for Aon as sourcing sufficient and tailored cyber insurance remains a pressing concern for clients.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

In Q2, we developed and placed a first of its kind cyber reinsurance offering, Aon Surge Stop Loss, which enables enhanced protection against cumulative cyber losses. Unlike traditional reinsurance products that require a specific event driven event to trigger coverage, Aon Surge Stop Loss triggers based on aggregate loss thresholds, resulting in broader, more flexible protection, an important evolution in the cyber reinsurance market given the ever increasing risk of cyber attacks. We also continue to invest in client facing talent across high growth areas, and our revenue generating hires are up 6% through June 30. Colleagues come to Aon because they recognize the competitive advantage of Aon's differentiated platform and how it enables them to deliver superior client outcomes. Finally, the $31,000,000,000 North American middle market remains a significant growth opportunity.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Our integration of NFP continues to progress very well, and we're making meaningful progress toward our $80,000,000 net revenue synergy target for 2025. As our combined team continues to unlock value by leveraging complementary capabilities and deep client relationships. It's clear our Aon United strategy, powered by ABS, continues to drive innovation, deliver actionable insights and match client risk with new sources of capital. Our strong first half performance and continued progress against the commitments of the 3x3 plan reinforce that we have the right strategy and plan in place to deliver long term value. And as a result, we reaffirm our 2025 full year guidance and our commitment to deliver double digit free cash flow growth over the twenty twenty three to twenty twenty six 3x3 plan period.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

To conclude, I will highlight three points. First, as the global environment continues to evolve, Aon's capability and integrated solutions are mission critical for clients to mitigate complexity, protect assets and grow their businesses. Second, our team is confident in our ability to capitalize on the compelling opportunities ahead and deliver long term shareholder value. And the results today are just another proof point of the strength of our strategy. And third, we have momentum across our businesses.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

We are attracting great talent. We are capturing the growing middle market opportunity, and we are winning more with both new and existing clients. Finally, to our over 60,000 colleagues around the world, thank you. Thank you for your commitment to our clients, each other and our Aon United strategy. Your dedication is the driving force of our firm.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Now I'll turn the call over to Edmund for his thoughts on our financial performance and long term opportunity to drive shareholder value creation. Edmund, over to you.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Thank you, Greg, and good morning, everyone. I'm excited to be here to discuss our second quarter results, which reflect both execution and the growing momentum of our 3x3 plan. But before we get into the details of our second quarter results, I want to take a moment to elevate what matters most. There are three key proof points that best capture the momentum behind our strategy and the strength of our performance. These highlights provide the right context for the details that follow and underscore how our execution on the 3x3 plan is translating into tangible results.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

First, we see clear evidence that our financial model is delivering its design. Our investments in revenue generating hires equipped with the analytical tools and client experience enhancements enabled by Aon Business Services or ABS are translating into sustainable mid single digit or greater organic revenue growth. Organic revenue growth was 6% for the quarter, and we are winning new business, expanding our relationships with existing clients and doing so with greater client engagement. Second, these Q2 results are not just about top line performance. They reflect our ability to invest in growth and expand margins, not through cost cutting, but through operating leverage.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

The scaled improvements powered by ABS along with our restructuring program savings created capacity to fund growth investments while still expanding margins by 80 basis points over last year, in line with our long term model. Third, the top line strength coupled with the operating leverage drove 19% adjusted EPS growth year over year and we converted those earnings into 59% free cash flow growth in the quarter, a clear demonstration of the strength of our earnings power and capital position. This performance reinforces our conviction in delivering double digit free cash flow growth for the full year and it gives us the flexibility to execute across all dimensions of our capital allocation strategy. We remain on track to meet our leverage objective, continue our disciplined middle market M and A strategy and return $1,000,000,000 in capital to shareholders via share repurchases this year. Taken together, our first half performance, 5% organic revenue growth and 8% adjusted EPS growth reflects the strength and resilience of our business and financial model and the discipline of our execution.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

In a macro environment that remains uncertain, we are delivering results by deepening client relationships and creating more value for clients through data insights and innovative capital solutions. We are driving growth through our investments and data capabilities, expanding margins through ABS and converting earnings into strong free cash flow. This gives us confidence in achieving our full year 2025 guidance. So now turning to the second quarter results in the financial summary on Slide five. You see that we delivered 6% organic revenue growth in the second quarter and total revenue increased 11% to $4,200,000,000 Adjusted operating margin was 28.2%, up 80 basis points for the quarter, in line with our expectations.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

And this includes the impact from NFP as we lap the anniversary of the acquisition at the April, resulting in a more normalized margin profile going forward. Adjusted EPS was $3.49 And finally, free cash flow increased to $732,000,000 reflecting strong adjusted operating income growth and continued improvement in days sales outstanding. Let's get into the details of these results, starting with organic revenue growth on Slide six. Organic revenue growth in Q2 twenty twenty five was in line with our mid single digit or greater guidance range. Growth was broad based with three of our four solution lines: Commercial Risk, Reinsurance and Health, each delivering 6% organic revenue growth, reflecting strong new business performance and high retention.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

In Commercial Risk, the 6% organic revenue growth in Q2 reflected strong performance in our core P and C business with meaningful contributions from both North America and EMEA, as well as strength in M and A services relative to prior year and double digit growth in construction. Notably, construction and renewable energy projects remain key areas of focus for us with activity levels continuing to be robust. In Reinsurance, organic revenue growth was 6% driven by double digit growth in our insurance linked securities business where we continue to lead the market in cat bond placements, now totaling $50,000,000,000 outstanding. We saw double digit growth in facultative placements in EMEA and Asia Pacific, which helped offset softer April 1 property renewals where rates declined 5% to 20%. Looking ahead, we continue to expect full year organic revenue growth in line with our mid single digit or greater objective, supported by higher limits at July 1 renewals, continued momentum in international facultative placements and strong demand for analytics from our strategy and technology group.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Health solutions also delivered 6% growth in the quarter and benefited from continued strength in our core health and benefits business, especially across international markets. Growth was fueled by net new business and market dynamics that continue to drive rising health care costs. We also saw a strong contribution from NFP, most notably in executive benefits and pharmacy solutions where demand remains elevated. And finally, wealth generated 3% organic revenue growth on top of 9% growth in the prior year period. The performance this quarter was driven by regulatory work across The UK and EMEA.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

We also saw a meaningful contribution from NFP asset inflows and market performance. So let me take a moment now to walk through the components of our Q2 organic revenue growth on Slide seven. As I shared at Investor Day, Aon has a consistent track record of generating new business and that continued in Q2. In the quarter, new business powered organic revenue growth and contributed 11 points with an equal contribution from both new clients and expansion with existing clients. Our investments in revenue generating talent in high growth areas like construction and energy are delivering measurable impact.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Revenue generating headcount is up 6% through the first half, and these colleagues are equipped with advanced data analytics and capabilities from ABS, enabling them to win more business. We continue to expect these investments to support sustainable organic revenue growth, with the 2024 cohort projected to contribute 30 to 35 basis points to full year organic revenue growth. Q2 twenty twenty five retention improved by one point year over year, driven by continued gains in commercial risk as we expand enterprise client leader coverage and deploy our risk capital analyzer. Net new business contributed five points to organic revenue growth in the quarter. Net market impact, which captures the impact of rate and exposure contributed approximately one point to organic revenue growth consistent with our zero to two point estimated range.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Reinsurance was down from rate declines and higher retentions and rate pressure in commercial risk was offset with limit and coverage increases across our book. Health and wealth both benefited from positive net market impact with rising healthcare costs and favorable asset performance supporting growth. And one final point on revenue. Second quarter fiduciary investment income was $66,000,000 in the quarter, down 12% versus the prior year, while average balances increased lower interest rates more than offset that benefit. On Slide eight, adjusted operating income was up 14% year over year to $1,200,000,000 and adjusted operating margin was up 80 basis points to 28.2%.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

This margin expansion reflects the impact of the four components that we highlighted when we provided full year guidance: NFP, fiduciary investment income, restructuring and operating leverage, all of which are in line with our expectations. While we absorbed a one month margin headwind from NFP given the April 2024 closing, our margin continued to benefit from the scale improvement driven by ABS and the savings from our restructuring program. Specifically, restructuring savings totaled $35,000,000 in the quarter, contributing approximately 83 basis points to adjusted operating margin. We remain on track to deliver 150,000,000 in restructuring savings for the full year and are progressing well toward our goal of three fifty million dollars in run rate savings by 2026. Given our strong progress in the first half of the year, we remain confident in our ability to drive full year adjusted operating margin expansion of 80 to 90 basis points consistent with our long term model.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Moving to interest, other income and taxes on Slide nine. As we indicated last quarter, interest income was negligible in the second quarter and $31,000,000 lower than last year when we earned interest on funds held ahead of the NFP acquisition. Interest expense of $212,000,000 was lower by $13,000,000 versus the prior year, primarily due to lower average debt balances. We expect interest expense to be approximately $210,000,000 in Q3 twenty twenty five. Other expense rose by $17,000,000 year over year to $32,000,000 primarily due to the remeasurement of balance sheet items in nonfunctional currencies and higher non cash pension expense.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

We estimate Q3 twenty twenty five other expense to range between $25,000,000 and 32,000,000 And finally, the Q2 tax rate was 16.5%, reflecting a favorable impact related to discrete items. While we expect variability in the quarterly rate, our year to date rate of 19.3% is in line with our expectations and our full year tax outlook remains unchanged at 19.5% to 20.5%. Turning now to free cash flow on Slide 10. We generated $732,000,000 in free cash flow in the second quarter, up 59% year over year. On a year to date basis, cash flow is up 13%, and this growth reflects strong adjusted operating income, including contributions from NFP and continued improvements in days sales outstanding.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

This free cash flow performance gives us the flexibility to execute across all dimensions of our capital allocation strategy and we continue to expect double digit free cash flow growth in 2025. Turning the capital allocation on the right side of the page, we remain focused on executing our disciplined and balanced capital allocation. We continued to make progress on deleveraging, lowering our leverage ratio to 3.4 times in the second quarter. We remain on track to achieve our target range of 2.8 times to three point zero times by the fourth quarter of twenty twenty five, consistent with the objective we set when we announced the NFP acquisition. We also remained active in M and A, continuing our targeted tuck in acquisitions across priority areas, including middle market deals through NFP.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Through June, NFP has closed eight acquisitions representing $20,000,000 of EBITDA with 80% of the EBITDA connected to P and C deals. Finally, we returned $411,000,000 in capital to shareholders this quarter due to dividend and $250,000,000 in share repurchases, keeping us on track for 1,000,000,000 in capital return through share repurchases for the full year. Each of these actions underpinned by strong free cash flow generation reflects our disciplined capital allocation model in action, reducing leverage, investing in high return growth and returning capital to shareholders. So I'll conclude my prepared remarks on Slide 11 with some thoughts on our financial objectives and 2025 guidance. Our second quarter results and our performance through the 2025 reflect the strength of our financial model and our execution on our 3x3 plan.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

We are delivering sustainable organic revenue growth by investing in the capabilities that fuel growth, client facing talent, differentiated analytics and seamless client experience through ABS. Our organic revenue growth combined with the initiatives we are executing across ABS to standardize operations and integrate platforms is creating capacity to fund our growth investments while strengthening the foundation for ongoing margin expansion. This combination is enhancing our earnings power and positioning us to deliver on our full year commitments and long term financial objectives. As a result, we are reaffirming our full year guidance including mid single digit or greater organic revenue growth, 80 to 90 basis points of margin expansion, including $260,000,000 in cumulative annual savings from our Aon United restructuring initiative, strong earnings growth and double digit free cash flow growth in 2025 and a double digit three year CAGR for 2023 to 2026. We are executing with focus.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

We have momentum and we remain confident in our ability to deliver long term value for our shareholders. So with that, let's jump into your questions. Donna, back to you.

[Operator]

Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. Our first question this morning is coming from Jimmy Bhullar of JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

[Jimmy Bhullar, Equity Research Analyst at JP Morgan]

Hey, good morning. So first just a question for Greg on the contribution to growth from capital markets activities and new hires. On new hires, I think Edmund had outlined at Investor Day that the contribution should pick up as you go through this year. So assuming that hasn't changed and but you could comment if it has. And then on capital markets, not sure if you are seeing, or expecting a greater impact, in the third and the fourth quarters versus what you've seen in the first half, given that it looks like M and A IPO activity across the board is picking up in several industries.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

First of Jimmy, appreciate the questions. We'll start with M and A services and then maybe go to talent when you're asking your second question. Listen, M and A services, you know this story well from our side. We love this space. We're unbelievably well positioned to win.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

We've been investing behind this capability because we know how important it is from a client standpoint, and we've been investing behind it in times when it wasn't doing so well. We've said to you before on calls, we're going to quit projecting, and we're going to talk to you about the rearview mirror. Whereas this has impact, you will see it have impact. And we've made progress in the quarter. Maybe describe it as better, but not back.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

You certainly see the pipelines pick up, as you've heard the investment banks describe, but there's tremendous amount of dry powder still out there on the sidelines, and we made progress. And as Edmund described, it was a tailwind in the quarter, but literally, the overall impact on our growth and the performance in the quarter was really very broad based, as Evan described. So generally very positive, good prospects, but describe it as progress. But Evan, what else would you add before we go to Tal?

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Yes. Just on the M and A point, Greg, just reiterating your point. It strengthened in Q1, Jimmy, and in Q2. That was modest growing over a low base. There's modest growth in our second half outlook for M and A, and we still expect to maintain our mid single digit growth levels despite that.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

If it comes in stronger, then that will be a tailwind for us. The point I want to emphasize is the point that Greg made about broad based growth. M and A falls into our commercial risk segment, which was at 6% for the quarter, again, in line with our expectations. We weren't surprised by that. That was strength driven by what I mentioned in my prepared remarks, our core P and C business in North America, double digit growth in construction.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

That means the priority hires, what you the next part of your question is contributing right in line with our expectations. M and A was a tailwind, but not the key driver. I'll also point out in construction our international markets, particularly in EMEA and LatAm. And again, there, the growth was driven by new business and the impact of us hiring, in those markets. So the growth was broad based across our different solution lines coming from new business and new hires.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

And on your second question, Greg, do you want to should I start there? On the second question, you're right. We did I think the first thing you heard me say it in the remark, I'd point out is that through six months, we're up six percent in revenue generating higher. So right in line with the 4% to 8% that we communicated at Investor Day, That is strong growth in the priority areas. We saw growth in energy.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Again, I'll mention double digit growth in construction. So those are areas that we think are outpacing GDP growth, but we're doubling down on. Contribution at 11 points of contribution from new business to our organic revenue growth, that's broad based, but there's a significant component of that as we start to see the new hire pick up in their contribution. So we still remain confident in what we said at Investor Day of 30 to 35 basis points of contribution from the 24 cohort of new hires. And the last point I'll make on it is that we're just going to stay focused on this.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

We're a growth company, so we'll remain committed to investing in talent, in the tools that we talked about on the calls and the capabilities through ABS as well.

[Jimmy Bhullar, Equity Research Analyst at JP Morgan]

Thanks. And maybe just a question on your preferred uses of free cash flow. You mentioned deleveraging as you had outlined at the end of with the NFP deal. But just maybe comment on your interest in large M and A. It seems like the antitrust environment better than it was before and some of your peers have done larger deals since you did the NFP acquisition, but just your interest in large scale M and A as a use of capital.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Yes. Maybe I'll make a few points about where we are in our position, which is strength, a position of strength, then I'll turn it to Greg to talk a little bit broader about the environment. But I start this the answer to this question, which is the free cash flow growth, 59% in the quarter, 13% in the quarter, 13% year to date coming from our operating income, coming from NFT, coming from integration and transaction costs winding down as we called out to at Investor Day. And so the confidence in double digit free cash flow is very high, and that means that we are in a position of strength with flexibility. And on that point about flexibility, the priority, of course, is getting that leverage ratio down.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

We're well on track to be able to do that. We're paying the dividend. But we will continue to evaluate assets that meet our strategic and financial criteria. We're very diligent on ensuring that our M and A decisions are accretive to returns. I put up a slide during Investor Day that said 12% revenue growth after one year of ownership over 20% of IRR and industry leading ROIC.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

So my point is that we are in a position of strength with the free cash flow. We have the flexibility. We're going to use the right criteria to evaluate as we continue to invest for growth. But Greg, maybe a little bit on the environment.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Yes. And listen, you captured it very well, Edmund. Jimmy, you get the point here. This is an underlying foundation that's sort of driven our capital allocation decisions for a long time, fully reinforced by Edmund. This is operating on strength with flexibility, but go back in time.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Return on invested capital, cash on cash return, true evaluation across the spectrum. And also remember, we're buying and selling, right? We are managing capital in a way in which we are absolutely focused on it. And we'll take steps to focus the portfolio if it's going to be helpful and added the portfolio in any way it's going to support us as well, from dividend to buyback to acquisition in every way shape or form. Appreciate the question, but we're excited about the potential here.

[Jimmy Bhullar, Equity Research Analyst at JP Morgan]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. The next question is coming from Elyse Greenspan of Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

[Elyse Greenspan, Managing Director at Wells Fargo]

Hi, thanks. Good morning. My first question is also on the M and A transactional book. I was just wondering, is it overweight on any geography or industry vertical? Or is it pretty diversified?

[Elyse Greenspan, Managing Director at Wells Fargo]

And then directionally, is the margin better or worse than the core P and C margin within the Commercial Risk segment?

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Appreciate the question, Elyse. Listen, we're happy to talk about M and A services all day long. So I just love the questions. For us, remember, we have truly invested in world class capability and content here, and we continue to do it when it wasn't as robust. The demand wasn't as robust for all the reasons that we all know.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Described at the time that we have expanded our capability. So we expanded it both geographically as well as beyond just sort of the classic PE focus. So it really is, you know, to the corporate world too. If you think about sort of the uses of m and a services, they've predominantly been directed toward, you know, the PE world, but equally compelling in the context of overall overall the overall corporate world. So from our standpoint, what we've got is broad based capability and what we believe will be, with time, very broad based demand across the world and and now even, you know, broader in terms of sort of how it's gonna be applied.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

So, again, we're excited about the potential. We've always has been. Nothing's changed there. But, you know, as Edmund and I both tried to describe, better, not back. There's a long way to go here with a lot of dry powder, and we're going continue to see it evolve over time.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

On the margin question, Edmund, can you maybe comment on that?

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Yes. And I think first on the first question, your operative word there is broad based. So at least the growth is a tailwind, but modest, but we saw that growth across all of our regions. EMEA was strong. Asia Pacific was strong, just like US as well the M and A space.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

On the margin, I think your question is about margins in the components of commercial risk versus the other areas. I think the key thing for us is that commercial risk has a slightly higher margins, but the margins are in line. I don't pay too much attention to a particular we're an annual company, so the margin in a particular quarter isn't where I'd focus. But most importantly, the key area of focus should be the expansion in both margins on the commercial risk side and, on the human capital side. And we're seeing that expansion across both the segments because it's driven by the operating leverage and the scale improvements that we get through ABS. So we're seeing it across our solutions.

[Elyse Greenspan, Managing Director at Wells Fargo]

Thanks. And then my second question, I was hoping you could spend a little bit more time on what drove the pretty strong free cash flow growth in the quarter. And then I know the full year guide is for $300,000,000 from NFP free cash flow. Where do we sit through the first half of year?

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Yes. So I called I mean, you're again, you're answering the question within the question there. Those are the drivers. Like I think there are four areas to keep your eyes on when you think about our free cash flow growth and how we get to double digit. One is the operating income growth and within that NFP.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Both of those items were a contributor for us in the quarter. So we feel very good about the $300,000,000 in 2025 free cash flow contribution from NFP on that question. The second area for us is the continued working capital improvements and in particular days sales outstanding. I called that out in the prepared remarks that we continue to focus on that by region within our procurement teams, so we continue to see benefit from that as well. The third area that I'd focus on is restructuring, the Aon United restructuring program.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

That continues to be a degradation of free cash flow as we go through 2026 in line with our plans on that. The benefit that we saw in addition to those three items in the quarter was through the lower NFP transaction and integration costs, just as I said at Investor Day. So operating income, including NFP, the working capital improvements and the lower transaction and integration costs from NFP. That is what are the those are the drivers for 13% year to date and just continued strength in those drivers is what will have us on track for double digits in 2025.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

But it's at least to this one, I want to point here an important one because you touched on the keynote for us, is free cash flow and free cash flow growth. So Emma just described very well kind of what's happening in the year, what's happening year to date, all exactly on point. Step back. Remember, we are all about revenue and revenue enhancement and then the translation of free cash flow from revenue, period. And we look at that in every angle, every shape you can imagine.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

And, you know, you look at our history, we've done double digit free cash flow growth for a long period of time. And then we add the three by three plan. And the three by three plan with Aon Business Services is, again, it's a it's a leverage to revenue. It's a leverage on capability, driving revenue. You're seeing that opportunity.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

And then it is a leverage to operating improvement, operating efficiency. So for us, we did double digit without Aon Business Services. Now Aon Business Services continuing to come on fully online and and what, you know, what we're now underscoring is is reinforcing our ability to deliver that. You're seeing that come to fruition. So for us, we absolutely want you to stay focused on free cash flow.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

We are as well. And the opportunity here for us, we think, is substantial, which is why we're reinforcing guidance around this. But understand the mechanics of this. Isn't about just a '25 result. It's about '25, '26 and ongoing well beyond the three by three plan period.

[Elyse Greenspan, Managing Director at Wells Fargo]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. The next question is coming from Andrew Kligerman of TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

[Andrew Kligerman, Managing Director at TD Securities]

Hey, good morning. So back when you closed on the NFP deal about a year, a year plus, The talk was of the expectation of generating about 175,000,000 in cash synergies coupled with about $60,000,000 in cost synergies. And I think, Edmund, you mentioned that this year you're on track for $80,000,000 in revenue synergies. So looking out to 2026, how are you progressing there? What can we expect along these numbers? Maybe any specific numbers you could provide around these metrics as we look to the incremental upside in 2026?

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Andrew, thanks for the question. Maybe just a bit of context around NFP overall and the progress because then it sets up the specifics and sort of how they've continued to strengthen and evolve, which Edmund can take us through. Listen, to step back, we talked about this on Investor Day, high expectations as NFP came into the Aon world, and they have been exceeded. It's been truly been terrific for us to sort of get a chance to work with this team, support them, and they support Aon. It's actually been a great great combination.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

And you've seen this show up on the revenue side and the organic revenue side and what we've been able to do as well as on the operating side, which showed up sort of in the quarter, but it's showing up throughout the overall year. So for us, this is exactly what we hoped it would be, the platform, then the platform also upon which we can add the programmatic m and a that had been talked about as well. And really a lot of this driven, as you think about NFP overall, on the idea of independent and connected. Independent and connected has made a huge difference as as we think about, you know, adding capability to NFP and from a producer front, but also from an m and a front, us more attractive to others who wanna be part of the overall Aon world. So I just wanna set context as you think about sort of NFP and the progress we've made.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

And then against that, absolutely, you're seeing it show up in the outcome. So maybe, Evan, will comment on that.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Yeah. Andrew, on this question, the first thing that Greg and I both highlight is producer retention. That's because without that, you're not gonna have any of the revenue synergies come through. It's better than it was pre acquisition. And in 2025, we continue to be as strong as we were in '24 on producer retention as well, and that's driven by the independent and connected strategy that Greg, was just talking about.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

So first step is minimizing any revenue leakage. To date, you're right with the numbers that you mentioned, 80,000,000 in 2025, a 175,000,000 in synergies through 2026 to date. We've bounced several million in new business from joint activity across the business units. But as we think about specific areas that we're focused on, as we look at the pipeline of what we've accomplished to date and what's going to help us meet that $80,000,000 number and $175,000,000 number. Maybe highlight two or three things for you.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

One is transitioning from third party wholesale to Aon expertise capability that we have. That that that was exactly what we thought when we thought about opening up the Aon store to the NFP population. Two is using our Aon global broking center for international placements and specialized placements. That has been an area of growth and strength that NFP is taking advantage of and contributing to the synergies, thus far. And then we have mid middle market panels in place, in places like marine and terrorism and builders risk, places that are even are certainly relevant in the macro environment that we're in right now.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

So those are areas that we're focused on to be able to meet the 80,000,000 commitment in 2025 and $175,000,000 in 2026, which we continue to be confident in.

[Andrew Kligerman, Managing Director at TD Securities]

Got it. And then just second question is around Reinsurance Solutions. You talked about double digit increases in ILS and facultative placements. How should we think about the dynamic with treaty? Is that kind of taking from treaty?

[Andrew Kligerman, Managing Director at TD Securities]

Or do you see kind of an uplift in both? Like, how how should we think about that dynamic between two product areas, ILS and treaty?

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Andrew, love the question. We'd suggest you step back a little bit and think about this isn't really from a product orientation. It's from a client orientation. And we're literally stepping and asking the question, how can we help clients both defend the house, think about their balance sheet and what they're doing, but also grow it and actually build build build build capability. And for us, whether treating faculty, ILS, all of these things sort of come into play as you think about helping a client do that.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

So in many respects, not competing, but complementary. And for us, it's been a it's really been a a great story from a reinsured standpoint. We've just got such a remarkable capability, remarkable global capability that continues to get stronger. And now with the three by three plan and the investment behind it in analytics, you know, absolutely tremendous. And we highlighted, you know, I, you know, highlighted one of the examples that we, you know, we came up with this the surge stop loss opportunity.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

This is a net new ad that comes into the fray that helps us actually be better from a reinsurance standpoint. And then And then Andrew, back and understand this capability as part of risk capital is then an amplifier, a big amplifier. So you've got reinsurance in and of itself, tremendously positive, continuing to progress with increasing demand, great opportunity. Within risk capital, now we're talking about how to take this capability and really embed it into the commercial risk decision process as well. Very complementary.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Now we're talking about the largest companies in the world, dollars 1,000,000,000,000 balance sheets, asking the question around how do I understand volatility? And the answer to that is not a product. It's not an individual solution line. It is it is global Aon. You may and think about just ILS and what we've done for commercial companies emanating from reinsurance.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

In 2021, we did basically no deals. 2020, nothing. '24, we did a 109. And year to date, '25, we're already at roughly a 100. I mean, this is this is truly remarkable in terms of what the opportunity is here.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

So for us, this is the this is the wheelhouse in terms of sort of net new demand as it evolves over time that we're going after. And so pretty excited about the opportunities here as they connect reinsurance and commercial risk. And the same story on the commercial risk side we can talk about as well.

[Andrew Kligerman, Managing Director at TD Securities]

Thanks. Very helpful.

[Operator]

Thank you. The next question is coming from Rob Cox of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

[Robert Cox, VP - Equity Research at Goldman Sachs]

Hey, thanks. Good morning. Yes, just a question first on talent. The revenue generating headcount seems like it's up 6% year to date, and, you know, this push has been successful. I'm curious, you know, has this changed your mind at all about the sort of run rate future investments in talent?

[Robert Cox, VP - Equity Research at Goldman Sachs]

And is this four to 8% increase annually sort of the right level to think about going forward?

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Maybe, Rob, if I could, I'm gonna start with an overview. But, I mean, Evan, then really dig in on this. This talent question is important. It really is part of the conversation we had on on the Investor Day around adding content and capability, but but I I really wanna wanna touch on this for a bit. Look.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

When we think about talent, remember, the mission of our firm is is, you know, is client obsessed. I mean, it literally is helping clients make better decisions and get the better outcomes. Because of that, not because, you know, for financial leverage and not because we're gonna move people around, you know, our industry does a lot of that. We're adding talent to deliver an outcome. That's why we focus it on priority areas, construction, energy, health, and our and our priority areas.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

But remember, our commitment is add talent, you know, better capability, but we've got to help them be better at Aon. So somebody coming over to Aon without the analyzers is is not a a net add. Somebody come on without sort of the improvements in service and what we do with search, etcetera, is not an add. So for us, Rob, this is this is this is talent in the right areas, and then it's reinforced by by Aon, by what we do, by Aon Business Services. And so and then then and then we they basically made the point, and Edmund had made it well on Investor Day.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

I'd love him to comment on it more now, is this is about continuous improvement. It's continuous improvement in terms of what we're trying to do on on their behalf to support clients, but also continuous investment. And the machine we're talking about here is a machine that is that is you know, drives top line, improves operating performance, but also invests back into the business on an ongoing basis. So for us, we're gonna continuously look at this. We're gonna we're gonna evaluate it.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

We're gonna make the right calls. But this is capital allocation. We're gonna make the right calls in terms of what we're trying to do, and we see more and more potential to bring talent in, particularly because we can amplify the talent that comes in. That's also why they come. They're excited to to to to do something to wow a client, to do something with their client they haven't been able to do before.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

And that's what makes us attractive, and that's the commitment we have to them. So I I wanna offer that view at a macro level. And then, Evan, you know, talk about where we are in the year and what we're expecting over over the plan period.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

And I'll start by emphasizing your point, Greg. This is about meeting client need meeting client need. If you do that, then you draw and we're very specific about this word, Rob, sustainable organic revenue growth. If you meet the client need, then you can drive the sustainable organic revenue growth. You do that by making these hires.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

We have the capacity to make the hires primarily because of the Aon Business Services, ABS, and the scale improvements that we get there. I'll refer you back to the slide at Investor Day on margin expansion and growth and investment in growth, where we drive this margin expansion through a business services, we get some benefit from expense discipline, and then we invest 40 to 60 basis points in revenue generating hires and other capabilities. The objective there is to meet our near term objectives, double digit free cash flow growth in the current year here and invest for ongoing sustainable top line growth. If we can get more from the scale improvements, then we'll invest more. If we can deliver in the current year and are outperforming, then we'll invest more.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

If we find the investments in the right areas, areas that we think are growth, it's not about quantity, we keep saying here. It's about quality, talent in the growth area. So that is the model for us is to create the capacity to both grow and expand margins that allow us to hit our immediate near term financial objectives but have sustainable growth in the long term as well. And if we can create more opportunity to invest more, then we're going to do that with that in mind.

[Robert Cox, VP - Equity Research at Goldman Sachs]

That's great. Thanks for all the color there. And if I could just follow-up on maybe a broader question on the economy. Broad strokes, what are you hearing from clients? And how are you thinking about growth and exposures in the back half of the year?

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Well, Rob, again, back to kind of what we talked about sort of in the Investor Day context. Look, these four megatrends we've talked about, trade, technology, weather, workforce, they just continue to be reinforced. As we said at the Investor Day, were talking about trade a year before, you know, the Liberation Day, and now it's been intensified massively. And we're seeing that. I would observe, though.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Listen. The three by three plan and the investments we're making, again, not something we created. It's something we listen to clients and we responded to. We just responded to an industrial strength level. And it is is true.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

There is more volatility. We've been talking about that for a decade, more risk. And and there's, you know, there's a need for real capability to respond to that. But if you think about it, you know, there's no denying the complexity, no denying the volatility. Unmanaged, by the way, what happens?

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Complexity, you know, creates uncertainty and ambiguity, and it slows everything down. Action stops. Investment stops. That's what everybody's worried about. Look.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

We think about it as complexity. Again, no denying it. But if you can help a client understand options, real options, and then you've got solutions behind the options, they see advantage, and they see speed. And be clear, our clients want to take action. But if pandemic taught us nothing else, it was you know, inaction's not a great outcome.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

You know, hope's not a strategy. They they came to realize that. They're looking for actions, and I'm and just I'm just trying to think. Maybe one example I'll I'll I'll share with you because it resonated very strongly for me. I've been having conversations, ongoing conversations we have across the across the firm with the CEO, one of the largest builders in the world.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

And we've been talking about and this is over the last three months. And they've been talking about their portfolio of major infrastructure projects, and these are mega around the world, and they're open for bid. And they're massive, as I said, but they're also complex, and the geography's complex, and the geopolitics are complex. And three months ago, they're talking about a pullback. Mean, literally, maybe a no bid on on a on a number of them, and they're just taking a hugely reserved position.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

We spent time over the last three months on a set of analytics that help them understand ways to reduce aspects of volatility. I mean, we're not gonna change the operating, underlying aspects, but all the things that surround those projects. And now they've got a brand new prioritization around what they're gonna go after, real offense. And and in their mind, they've got great conviction around a subset of these they think is a greater opportunity. And so what I'm trying to highlight for you is all that you read, all that's out there is real, but understand clients want to take action, and they want the content to be able to take action with conviction.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

And that's us. I mean, this is the analyzers. This is the capability that we bring to the table. This is the matching of capital with risk and matching beyond just insurance capital, but really pension capital and sovereign fund capital and PE capital. And so it really is in that context for us a an opportunity to help clients take a step ahead with conviction, and that's real opportunity, you know, recognizing the complexity that's out there.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

So hopefully, that wasn't too much, but it gives you a sense on sort of literally what's happening in the market day to day.

[Robert Cox, VP - Equity Research at Goldman Sachs]

That's great. Thanks for the answers.

[Operator]

Thank you. The next question is coming from David Motemaden of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

[David Motemaden, MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst - Insurance & Business Services at Evercore ISI]

Hey, thanks. Good morning. Edmund, I was wondering if you could just size the tailwind to organic growth from the M and A services for both the total company and then specifically within commercial risk and then maybe help us think about it. I understand it's not back yet, but if it were back, how much of a contribution could it have?

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

Yes, David. Thanks for the question. I mean, there certainly is a ton of emphasis on M and A right now. I don't I'd prefer to stay focused on what the drivers are today here. And M and A is providing a tailwind for you.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

I've said before, growing off of the base that we have for M and A right now, we, you know, we have objectives of mid single digit or greater. You would need M and A to be multiples of that. You would need it to be four, five times that before it becomes a significant contribution to the overall organic growth rate that we have. The items that are driving it right now really is the core P and C business, the investment hires that we're making, the double digit growth in construction, those investment hires driving new business right now. And so we're going to continue to be focused on new business and retention.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

The other big thing in commercial risk, we talked about retention being up one point year over year, and this is an opportunity to even call out our North American retention in commercial risk, which was up substantially given what we're doing with our priority accounts with our premier accounts, what we're doing in terms of expanding coverage. So M and A, I get the focus on that. Right now, it's a bit of a tailwind. I think our outlook is for it to be modest in the second half of the year. If it comes in higher, then that gives us more confidence in being at the mid single digit or greater levels in our balance.

[Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon]

We're not dependent on that. We are more focused on recurring organic revenue growth. We'll maintain our fair share, as Greg said earlier, of M and A services, particularly with PE, and we're focusing on expanding with corporates, but our focus is on recurring revenue growth, and those are the drivers.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

And David, we're not trying to hedge here at all. But understand, M and A services is intertwined. It connects with all of our aspects of our business. So it isn't just a transaction liability placement. It really is around the run up discussion or it's around a whole series of other things related to the P and L.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

So it's very interconnected. And I think Edmund characterized it perfectly. And you'll see it play out as it plays out, and it looks like it may be a little more positive. But again, very connected to what we do across the firm. That's why we're not going to really break it out as an individual piece because it's really very, very supported by colleagues around the firm.

[David Motemaden, MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst - Insurance & Business Services at Evercore ISI]

Understood. Thank you for that. I totally understand. On just a follow-up on the 6% increase in revenue generating roles through the first half, already at halfway through the full year, the midpoint of the full year goal. Maybe you could just talk about the talent pipeline and if you think there's maybe the potential to get above that 8% growth in revenue generating roles that you guys had targeted for this year.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

And listen, Edmund described it very, very well. We're making calls on capability to help serve and support our clients. We're identifying, you know, we're identifying capability to come in in these priority areas and with a game plan on how they can actually come in with high conviction and excitement about how they can do more than they've done before. Not the same, more than they've done before. And so when we see those opportunities, we will take advantage of them.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

This is not a specific target. Edmund's describing exactly kind of what's come about, and we anticipate just continuing to maintain momentum. But listen, the analyzers matter. The the what we're doing on on on the the the the client experience we described on investor day, next generation client experience. As the world understands what that really means at a micro level sitting across the table from a client, we become more it's more interesting.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

You know, when you can actually help a client understand they don't have to actually deal with, you know you know, cert certificate proof proof of insurance, you know, because we've actually digitized it and created an outcome with AI that literally makes it real time that a client could do themselves. They go, wow. I I get to I get to talk to my client about being able to do that. They couldn't have done that before. These capabilities matter, and and people see that.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Producers see that, and they wanna be part of Aon. And and we invite that, and we're gonna nourish that as best we can. But it'll play out as it plays out, and we'll push it as the opportunity is there versus just pushing it to push it.

[David Motemaden, MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst - Insurance & Business Services at Evercore ISI]

Great. Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. Our final question today is coming from Meyer Shields of KBW. Please go ahead.

[Meyer Shields, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)]

Great. Thanks so much and good morning. I was hoping to get an update on how sensitive clients of different sizes are to elevated social inflation or legal risk in The U. S. I know on the insurance side, obviously, it's a major concern, but I'm wondering whether it's penetrating the broader consciousness.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Meyer, thanks for the question. Listen, again, client orientation. Yes, it penetrates everywhere. Everyone reads and clients understand that in many respects, this is focused ultimately on them in terms of sort of what it really means. Absolutely focused on them.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

And they're concerned about it. Therefore, we're concerned about it. You saw us, you know, in October, the first to basically say we're not we're not gonna support this because it really doesn't support our clients, period. We we just said no, you know, especially focused on the North American and The US theater. So, yes, it's an area of concern, we're taking action to to explicitly not support it.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

We made that public. Others have now joined the joined the fray, which is terrific, and we believe it's the right answer. But, yes, it's absolutely a known outcome across the board. Some more acute than others depending on the the the industry you're in and the and the size, but But make no mistake, it's a big deal.

[Meyer Shields, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)]

Okay. Fantastic. That's very helpful. And I want to go back to the talent question just one more time because we've gone through, I think, these many waves in the industry where company X is hiring and so on. I think it's great.

[Meyer Shields, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)]

But I'm wondering how what's Aon doing to not so much recruit talent as to train it from scratch or to grow it from scratch?

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Meyer, this is the we we would love to spend any of our time with you on this. This is what I was trying to allude to before or highlight before with with Edmund as well. This is it. Moving bodies around doesn't matter. I mean, how do you get better choice when you just move people around?

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

You you you bring colleagues in and you and by the way, they want this. They drive this. This is this is a colleague. I mean, this is all about people, and they want more capability. They want a better answer.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

They want a better I mean, the example I was giving before on the on the construction company, this is all about they got some insight they didn't have before provided by our colleagues, provided by a producer. And it's just taking someone and helping them be better. So they're phenomenal. They're driving it. But now with with these seven analyzers, they're better.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

They had a property analyzer embedded with reinsurance content. So literally, a commercial company making decisions about global property placement at a structure level with with literally the information that was there from reinsurance driven off of impact forecasting is like, wow. And, you know, a producer gets to see that they're better. Broker copilot, literally, we're capturing information never been captured before in a comparable way ingested so you can actually compare it real time. Our colleagues get a chance to see that, and they're like, wow.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

And so for us, if we can help a producer be better in real time with a client and then with solutions and then as they interact with the market, this is a big deal. And and on the on the insurance side, if we can help them in the reinsurance market, do the same. This is a big deal. So for us, talent is about is about better client solutions. Talent has got to be about better client solutions.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

We fall short of that. We don't succeed and our because our clients aren't better off. So for us, we're not trying to opine on what everybody else does, and you're you're absolutely right. It's been tried and true. It's important for us that you understand we are different.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

We're not saying we're better, although we we like our chances there, but we are we are absolutely different in how we're approaching the market and approaching talent, and it's it's resonating. And it's resonating and independent and connected when you talk about connected with NFP, and it's resonating in Aon broadly in terms of how we're bringing Talendin. So hopefully, that's little bit of color commentary on how we're thinking about it. Very different.

[Meyer Shields, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)]

That was very helpful. Thanks so much.

[Operator]

Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Case for closing comments.

[Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon]

Just wanted to say thanks, everyone, for joining and look forward to talking to you next quarter.

[Operator]

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's event. You may disconnect your lines and log off at this time and enjoy the rest of your day.

Participants

Analysts

• Greg Case, President, CEO & Director at Aon
• Edmund Reese, EVP & CFO at Aon
• Jimmy Bhullar, Equity Research Analyst at JP Morgan
• Elyse Greenspan, Managing Director at Wells Fargo
• Andrew Kligerman, Managing Director at TD Securities
• Robert Cox, VP - Equity Research at Goldman Sachs
• David Motemaden, MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst - Insurance & Business Services at Evercore ISI
• Meyer Shields, Managing Director at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)