RGC Resources Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 13, 2025

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: The company has renewed 3.1 miles of main through its SAFE program and connected 541 new services, with 3.9 new main miles installed—50% above last year’s total.
  • Positive Sentiment: Delivered gas volumes rose 6% in Q3 and 15% year-to-date, driven by colder winter conditions and a record 1.5 Bcf from its large industrial customer.
  • Positive Sentiment: Third-quarter net income climbed to $538,000 (US$0.05 per share) from $157,000 a year ago, while nine-month earnings reached $13.5 million (US$1.31 per share), a 16% increase.
  • Positive Sentiment: The company secured a new 7-year note at SOFR+1.55% to refinance its Midstream debt and obtained a line of credit for future MVP investments, classifying most obligations as long term.
  • Neutral Sentiment: For fiscal 2025, CapEx is forecast around $22 million with EPS guidance of $1.22–$1.27, though a modest fourth-quarter loss is expected amid inflation and weather variability.
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Earnings Conference Call
RGC Resources Q3 2025
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There are 4 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and thank you for joining us as we discuss RGC Resources twenty twenty five third quarter results. I'm Kelsey Davenport, director of finance of RGC Resources Inc.

Operator

I am joined today this morning by Paul Nestor, our president and CEO, and Tim Mulvaney, our VP, treasurer, and chief financial officer. Let's review a few administrative items before we start. We have muted all lines and ask that all participants remain muted. The link to today's presentation is available on the investor and financial information page of our website at www.rgcresources.com. At the conclusion of the presentation and our remarks, we will take questions.

Operator

Turning to slide one. This presentation contains forecasts and projections. Slide one has information about risks and uncertainties, including forward looking statements that should be understood in the context of our public filings. Slide two contains our agenda. We will discuss our operational and financial highlights for the third quarter and first nine months of our 2025 fiscal year.

Operator

We will then review our outlook for the remainder of the 2025 fiscal year with time allotted for questions at the end. I will now turn the presentation over to Paul. Paul?

Speaker 1

Thank you Kelsey and good morning. Just to put everyone's mind at ease, Tommy is not with us today as he's spending some time with his recently arrived grandchild. So we're wishing Tommy and his family well. Let's begin on slide three. Main extensions were strong and renewal activity was steady for the first nine months of fiscal twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1

Investing in our system safety and reliability remains a high priority for us. Through our SAFE program, we have renewed 3.1 miles of Maine and two twenty eight services year to date. We continue to experience robust residential growth. We installed 3.9 new main miles, which is already 50% higher than the total main miles installed in all of fiscal twenty twenty four. And we've connected five forty one new services through June 30.

Speaker 1

Both of those are just outstanding numbers nine months into the year. Slide four shows delivered gas volumes for the quarter. Total volumes increased 6% compared to the 2024 as one industrial customer who has fuel switching capability continued their high natural gas consumption this year. Residential and commercial volumes were slightly down when compared to the same quarter in the prior year. As most of you know, the April, May, June period is considered a shoulder period.

Speaker 1

Sometimes you have colder weather and warmer weather, and the mix of that can impact those volumes. On slide five though, there's a different story in our delivered gas volumes for the year to date of fiscal twenty twenty five. We simply had a colder winter as we've discussed on our first and second quarter calls. With heating degree days up 18%, total volumes moved up 15% compared to 2024 across all three categories shown on the slide. The same large industrial customer continues to be up year over year and in fact has already established through June 30 a new annual delivery record of 1.5 Bcf through June.

Speaker 1

So just an outstanding consumption there. I would like to provide a couple of quick updates on the regulatory front. As we discussed on our most recent call, we received the final order from the 2024 rate case in early April. We also filed our normal rider updates for SABE and the renewable natural gas facility in May and June, respectively, and we expect to receive those final orders prior to 09/30/2025. Slide six shows year to date CapEx.

Speaker 1

Total spending was $15,700,000 in the current year, which is down approximately 5% from the same period a year ago. You may recall as we were moving toward Mountain Valley in service on 06/14/2024 and the conclusion of June 30 quarter that we invested $3,200,000 to complete our two Mountain Valley interconnects establish our first customer in Franklin County with the main and service installation there. We just haven't had that kind of one time capital expenditure so far in 2025. We will provide more color on CapEx as we discuss the full year outlook later in the presentation. I will now turn the microphone over to our Chief Financial Officer, Tim Mulvaney, to review our financial results and some outstanding developments related to our balance sheet.

Speaker 1

Tim?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Paul. Moving to slide seven. We had another good quarter, albeit with a different formulation than last quarter. Higher earnings in the current quarter from our share of MVP's normal operations, along with lower interest expense, overcame lower operating income. In the prior year, our earnings from MVP related to AFUDC, which was trailing off as the pipeline went into service.

Speaker 2

Net income of $538,000 or $05 a share compared to net income in the same quarter a year ago of $157,000 or $02 a share. The year to date results are shown on slide seven as well. Performance for the nine months of the fiscal year compared to the same quarter to the same period last year are strong. Higher Roanoke Gas margins aided by higher base rates more than compensated for lower MVP earnings due to AFUDC in the prior year and higher interest expense. Net income was up nicely to $13,500,000 in the first nine months of fiscal twenty twenty five or $1.31 per share compared to $1.15 per share in the first September of fiscal twenty twenty four, a robust 16% increase.

Speaker 2

To provide a reminder for the fourth quarter, the rates that were in effect were finalized excuse me, the rates that were finalized went into effect 07/01/2024. So, there'll be no corresponding lift in gas margins in the fourth quarter of this year. In fact, we anticipate a small loss for the quarter as more of the revenues were captured in volumes under the rate case. The MVP pipeline went into service in June 2024, and the shipper agreements became active 07/01/2024. As a result, our share of MVP earnings should be comparable to the fourth quarter a year ago.

Speaker 2

Moving to Slide eight. We ended the third quarter with a strong balance sheet. We continue to invest and grow our utility property. We renewed the Roanoke Gas line of credit for two years and raised our maximum availability to $30,000,000 at the March. Last quarter, we indicated that we were having positive conversations regarding our midstream debt.

Speaker 2

Subsequent to this quarter end, we reached an agreement with two banks related to our debt at Midstream, which will serve us well for years to come and results in classifying most of this debt as long term. Moving to slide nine. Before I turn the presentation back to Paul to talk about economic development, our forecast for capital, and our expectations for full year earnings, let me provide a little more detail about the agreement we reached for Midstream's debt. On slide 10, we received a commitment from two banks to provide us a new note to refinance all debt related to Midstream. That's four separate facilities currently.

Speaker 2

This new note will be for seven years and carry interest at SOFR plus $1.55 We plan to swap that variable rate to fixed rate while keeping our two existing interest rate swaps, which have very favorable rates, until each of those swaps mature. We will begin to amortize the debt based on the remaining life of the MVP shipping contracts. This amounts to about $711,000 per quarter. Separately, we expect to enter into a new line of credit facility with one of the banks that will enable us to invest in projects at MVP to enhance future cash flows. These arrangements position us well as it provides us time and the means to enhance MVP cash flows with manageable amortization.

Speaker 1

Now let me turn the presentation back to Paul. Thank you so much, Tim, and thank you for reviewing that recent refinancing. And it's just an outstanding, again, result there and puts a large degree of certainty to what had been a little uncertain due to the floating nature of some of that debt and the short term nature. So great job to you and our finance team on that. We're on Slide 11 now.

Speaker 1

Last quarter, we talked to you about some regional wins in the economic development arena while knowing, yet not disclosing, that Botetourt County and the Roanoke region were working vigorously to finalize a deal with Google. As many of you know, that deal was announced in late June and it's likely to be the single largest investment ever made in this region and there continues to be a buzz around that announcement. As we have long done as a company, we continue to work with our localities and the Roanoke Regional Partnership, which is our economic development leader here on a myriad of additional opportunities that are in various stages of development. Some of these present more direct opportunities for Roanoke Gas and some of them may be more indirect, which would be analogous to the recent Google announcement. With MVP operational, the energy availability that is presented there continues to generate a lot of conversation and interest across many industries and we participate there as we can.

Speaker 1

Roanoke continues to strengthen its position as the hub for the wider region's healthcare needs. We talked about this last quarter, but the new $400,000,000 expansion of the hospital is phasing into opening as we speak and has just been a huge success. The cancer center, I believe we mentioned that last time as well, is coming out, literally coming out of the ground right now. There's incredible construction there, and we're thrilled about that. But on a broader note, other health care providers and businesses continue to locate or expand their presence in the region around that hub.

Speaker 1

Many of these customers do in fact benefit from the reliability and economics that natural gas provides. One item that's taken a little bit longer to develop this year than we had anticipated is the Franklin County expansion. We are in regular conversations with both the county and some of the localities therein as well as others around that expansion. We fully intend to serve more and greater customers in the days ahead and we're making plans and ready to make the appropriate investments to facilitate that. But we're moving from a financial and a planning perspective, moving that capital investment allocation until or into fiscal twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1

So turning to Slide 12 and looking at our capital forecast for this full year, again, we've got nine months in the books. We're still around that upper $21,000,000 range, just shy of 22,000,000 which is what we showed last quarter. And again, we've reallocated by category how we plan to allocate that money again based on the opportunities that are in front of us and assuming we have some cooperative weather. The month of July, in fact, this region was one of the wettest July's on record, so hampered some construction activity. Moving to slide 13, we're still keeping the range of earnings per share in the $1.22 to $1.27 range.

Speaker 1

We do anticipate a modest net loss in the fourth quarter as more of our revenue and earnings are tied to the weather sensitive volumes of the first and second quarters. Similar to others, we continue to monitor inflation and interest rates while being prudent about our expenses. Tim and I talk about this regularly. Renewals on contracts and other services that are necessary to run the business continue to be higher than some of the national 2% to 3% numbers. So again, we're very aware of that and again, everything we can as a company to manage expense.

Speaker 1

I would like to conclude my remarks before we take questions. Just again thanking our employees for everything that they've done so far to lead to this outstanding one point three one year to date earnings per share number. The system has performed magnificently. I think we talked about that last quarter. Again, the refinancing that we just were able to broker is a significant win.

Speaker 1

The economic development activity continues to be strong. Again, the Google announcement is truly a once in a I think it feels like a once in a lifetime type announcement for this region. We're thrilled about that. So we also want to thank you the shareholders for staying with us and sticking with us, especially through some of the thinner times with the Mountain Valley Pipeline investment. With that, we would love to take questions.

Speaker 1

And if you have a question, please dial 1 to unmute your line. 1 to unmute your line.

Speaker 3

Hey. Good morning, everyone.

Speaker 1

Mike, good morning. How are you today?

Speaker 3

Doing well, sir. Yourself?

Speaker 1

We're doing great. Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 3

Probably just one area of questions. Looking at slide twelve, twenty five capital forecast and looking how that breaks out. And I'm not looking for specific guidance for 2026, but as you look at 2026, very minimal MVP growth this year. And now you were talking earlier about refinancing and maybe I'll let you pursue some things with MVP as well and then you've got Google in the background. So as you think about 2026, would you expect MVP growth to be more?

Speaker 3

And then on, let's just say Google related investments. Does customer growth and system expansion probably go up as well?

Speaker 1

Yeah, thank you for the question and I may start and Tim is welcome to chime in. We are presently working on our 2026 budgets and hence we'll hopefully have a forecast on 2026 earnings in the September, early September timeframe. But the quick answer on MVP growth is yes. Again, tied back to Franklin County expansion. We essentially pushed some of the plans and the thoughts we had Mike in the 2025 this time into 2026.

Speaker 1

So we do expect that category to be significantly higher next year. Our SAVE rider spending, we think will be pretty consistent as it's really been over the history of the SAVE program going back to 2013. We think it'll be consistent into next year. We still have the manpower and the capital ready to deploy there. And certainly the customer growth piece, how much of that will be tied to Google, we don't really know.

Speaker 1

Mike, Google has not really made public yet their exact plans for construction. As more of that becomes known, we hope to have an opportunity to support that even if it's in an ancillary way. I'll talk a little more about customer growth this year again is remarkably higher than last year. And a lot of that was due to timing of the way some of the housing developments have landed. We knew those developments were in the works and getting their permitting last year and now they've essentially broken ground this year and we're laying main in those.

Speaker 1

So hence the strong main extension number that we discussed. Right now it appears that that trend continues. There's rumblings nationwide about some housing slowdown. There's also discussion about housing shortage. We're still short here in the Roanoke region and development communities doing what they can to address that shortage.

Speaker 1

So we're optimistic that the customer growth system expansion categories at least equal next year to this year if not a little bit better. Tim I don't know if you want to add anything to that.

Speaker 2

No I think that was a good summary. The one thing that I might supplement with is there is some minor constraint with just having crews to do all things at at one time. There could be some movement. For example, we do a little less save and do more MVP growth or something like that. So overall, the the total probably end up somewhere in the same neighborhood.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Okay. One other thing that came to mind I'd like to touch on your customer penetration along your existing mains. Is there a lot of growth opportunity in that category? And the reason I'm asking is we've seen multiple news stories out of some big outlets. Last year's PJM auction pricing has hit the July electric bills in the North in the Mid Atlantic here.

Speaker 3

And we've seen stories in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland about, in some cases, exorbitant electricity rates. And I'm just wondering if that if you're seeing a feed through from higher electricity rates in your region driving more customer growth along the mains and is there a lot to get along those mains?

Speaker 1

Yes, that's actually a great question and some people in the industry refer to that as saturation and you do saturation studies to see where you have existing mains and the number of customers you do not have or potential customers you do not have all those existing mains and are active in our saturation studies and our penetration analysis. And in fact, that area is under Tommy. And they do a great job of contacting those folks who do not presently have natural gas and encouraging them or doing what we can under our tariff to aid them in having natural gas service. I don't have an exact statistic on the inflation in electricity cost to the average consumer. We are also in the PJM territory as you know and so that that phenomena is real in addition to the requirements of the Virginia Clean Economy Act, have greatly increased electricity bills in this region and our state.

Speaker 1

So we do experience, I think, Mike, what we call a conversion. Those are conversion customers. They are new customers, but their conversions from a non natural gas fuel source, and that has been steady to strong. It's a great question. We'll do a little more analysis on that and try to put a finer point to that.

Speaker 1

But it feels like to your good question that trend is going to continue. I don't think the electricity rates are going to abate or recede any in our region.

Speaker 3

Yeah, we don't see we don't see significant generation coming on that would be available to non hyperscaler customers till probably 02/1931. So it looks like we're going to have several years of these high prices in PJM. So I would think that would be a pretty good driver of future growth for all the gas utilities within the PJM network because pretty much the only way you can cost down.

Speaker 1

Yeah the one part of your question I failed to answer Our saturation is pretty strong and some of that's just due to the concentration of our customer base. As you know you've been to Roanoke in the Roanoke Valley we are very concentrated and that does aid in a strong saturation. But again, we're still always seeking to add more.

Speaker 3

All right, I will leave it there. Appreciate the time.

Speaker 1

Oh, thank you so much. If anyone else has a question, 1 to unmute your line. We'd be delighted to entertain it. Pound pound 1. Okay.

Speaker 1

Well, none, this concludes our twenty twenty five third quarter earnings call. We again thank you for joining us and thank you for your support and we look forward to hosting you again in early December to discuss the full year 2025 results. Thank you, and have a great day.

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