Aqua Metals Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 13, 2025

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Produced lithium carbonate with fluorine content below 30 ppm—likely best‐in‐class for recycled lithium—and delivered ~100 kg to strategic counterparties for evaluation.
  • Positive Sentiment: Initiated design of a modular, scalable ARC facility capable of processing 10,060 metric tons of black mass annually, with discussions underway with potential strategic partners.
  • Positive Sentiment: Internal cost analysis indicates AquaRefining matches Chinese hydromet recycling costs and operates at roughly half the expense of traditional U.S. hydrometallurgical methods.
  • Positive Sentiment: Strengthened the balance sheet by selling nonessential assets for $4.3 M, retiring a $3 M loan to become debt‐free, and extending cash runway to support commercialization plans.
  • Negative Sentiment: Reported a Q2 net loss of $6.8 M—including a $3.8 M noncash impairment on disposed equipment—with a per‐share loss of $7.44 versus $9.94 a year ago.
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Earnings Conference Call
Aqua Metals Q2 2025
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There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Afternoon, and welcome to the Aqua Metals Second Quarter Financial Results Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. You can submit a question via the web at any time by typing them in the ask a question field on your screen. If connected by phone, to queue up for a telephone question, press 1.

Operator

Please note that this conference call is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to our host, Bob Myers of FNK IR. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and thank you, everybody, for joining. Earlier today, Aqua Metals issued a press release providing an operational update and discussing financial results for the second quarter ended 06/30/2025. This release is available in the Investor Relations section on the company's website at aquametals.com. Hosting the call today are Steve Cotton, President and Chief Executive Officer and Eric West, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind participants that during the call, management will be making forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Please refer to the company's report on Form 10 Q filed today, August 13, for a summary of the forward statements and the risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those forward looking statements. Aqua Metals cautions investors not to place undue reliance on any forward looking statements. The company does not undertake and specifically disclaims any obligation to update or revise such statements to reflect new circumstances or unanticipated events as they occur except as required by law. As a reminder, after the formal remarks, we will be taking questions. Questions will be accepted on the call from analysts, and all other investors can submit a question using the webcast portal provided in today's and press releases.

Speaker 1

We will take as many questions as we can in our available time slot. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Steve Cotton, CEO of Aqua Metals. Steve, please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. This past quarter has been a defining period for Aqua Metals. We advanced our commercialization road map, achieved new technical milestones, and strengthened our financial position, all of which position us for successful market entry. First, on the technology front, we produced lithium carbonate with fluorine content below 30 parts per million, which is likely a best in class result globally for recycled lithium. This meets and exceeds the strict specifications of cathode active material producers, and we've already produced approximately 100 kilograms for strategic counterparties to evaluate.

Speaker 2

We produced over one metric ton of high purity NMC or nickel manganese cobalt mixed hydroxide cake for qualification sampling with potential partners. We believe this material could integrate directly into the value chain at the PCAM step or precursor cathode active material step, creating efficiencies over producing independent sulfate streams. We continued exploring alternative feedstocks, successfully testing nickel refinery residue, and preparing to test undersea nodules rich in nickel and cobalt later this year. We also began trials for sodium sulfate regeneration technology, an innovative process that could help PCAM producers convert sodium sulfate waste into sulfuric acid and sodium hydroxide, which can be recirculated back into their process. This not only reduces chemical costs, but also minimizes waste streams.

Speaker 2

Second, on scalability. We began designing a modular, scalable commercial arc facility capable of processing between 10,060 metric tons of black mass annually. This design will serve as a clear blueprint for scaling AquaRefining to meet growing demand. We are already in discussions with potential strategic partners who could support a phased build out. Third, on cost competitiveness.

Speaker 2

Our internal analysis shows that AquaRefining in The US is a cost competitive with Chinese hydrometallurgical recycling and operates at roughly half the cost of traditional US hydrometallurgical methods. This is a critical milestone proving that sustainability and competitiveness can go hand in hand. Finally, we continue to engage with potential strategic partners. We believe collaboration among recyclers, CAM producers, and technology innovators will be essential to building a fully domestic closed loop battery material supply chain, something still largely absent at commercial scale in The United States. Our progress this quarter shows that Aqua Metals is not just preparing to participate in that market.

Speaker 2

We are positioning ourselves to help define that. With that, I will turn the call over to our CFO, Eric West, to review the financials. Go ahead, Eric.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Steve. Let me start my comments with our balance sheet. We ended the quarter with cash and cash equivalents of approximately $1,900,000. And as of this call, we have approximately $3,200,000. During June, we completed the sale of the Sierra Art facility and related equipment, generating roughly $4,300,000 of cash proceeds.

Speaker 3

These proceeds were used to retire the $3,000,000 Summit building loan, which also eliminated the associated interest expense going forward. With the payoff of this note, the company now has no debt. As a reminder, on 08/04/2025, we affected a one for 10 reverse stock split. All per share figures we referenced today reflect that split. I will now move to the income statement.

Speaker 3

Operating expenses reflect prudent cost control and workforce reduction implemented to conserve cash while we pursue necessary capital funding. For the quarter, plant operations expenses were $800,000 down from $2,400,000 a year ago, and g and a was $2,200,000, down from $3,400,000 in 2024. The decline in both categories were driven primarily by lower payroll and related costs following workforce reductions. We do not expect these actions to materially impact current pilot operations or ongoing R and D. Q2 twenty twenty five net loss also includes noncash items associated with the Sierra Arc transaction, specifically an impairment and loss on the disposal of property and equipment of approximately $3,800,000 in the quarter and $9,000,000 recognized year to date as we exited the site.

Speaker 3

Other income benefited from $500,000 of interest in other income and $800,000 of noncash gain from the warrant liability remeasurement. Net loss for the quarter was approximately $6,800,000. On a per share basis, basic and diluted net loss per share was negative $7.44 for 2025 versus negative $9.94 in 2024. Now moving to the cash flow statement. Year to date cash used in operating activities was $5,300,000, an improvement versus the prior year, reflecting prudent cash management and cost reduction actions, including workforce reductions taken to conserve cash while we work toward the capital funding path.

Speaker 3

Investing activities provided $4,900,000 driven primarily by the building and equipment sales proceeds received in q two. Financing activities used $1,800,000 year to date. This comprised of $2,700,000 raised through our ATM and $100,000 via the Lincoln Park e lock. And we applied $4,500,000 to principal repayments, including the payoff of the Summit loan and bridge note. We are continuing to focus on capital solutions and partnering structures that support our long term strategy while strengthening our cash position to ensure an adequate runway.

Speaker 3

That concludes my comments on the company's financials. I'll now turn the call back to Steve.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Eric. So to summarize, in q two, we delivered best in class lithium quality, validated our cost competitiveness, expanded our feedstock potential, and initiated the design of the scalable ARC facility. We also strengthened our balance sheet and extended our cash runway, giving us a solid financial platform as we move towards commercialization. We are proud of the progress we've made, and we believe Aqua Metals is well positioned to play a defining role in building a resilient, fully domestic battery material supply chain in The United States. With that, let's open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We'll now conduct our question and answer session. To ask a question via the phone, press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You can press star 2 to remove yourself from the queue.

Operator

To ask a question on the webcast, simply type it in the ask a question field on your screen. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. And your first question comes from Mickey Legg with The Benchmark Company. Congrats

Speaker 4

on the quarter. Welcome to the team, Eric. Could you maybe talk a little bit more about the progress on the technology side of things? Maybe just break that down a little bit more for someone who's not an engineer. You know, I think the the China comp was pretty compelling saying that it's, you know, 50% of the cost of the current US.

Speaker 4

How you know, could you break that down a little bit? And what are the implications of that? And how are, you know, your potential customers viewing the progress on that side? And what what sort of things are they looking for? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Great. Well, thanks, Mickey. Great question. And, yeah, it's a tough one because it's definitely been a productive quarter for innovation.

Speaker 2

But I guess if I had to just pick one thing that really stands out, it's the progress that we announced that we made on the quality of our lithium carbonate. And that mainly being that we've reduced the fluorine content to under 30 parts per million, which is incredibly low. And based on the feedback that we're getting from the strategic partners that we're working on, it may be the highest spec lithium carbonate not just from recycled sources, period, even compared to many mine sources. I think that's huge. And it shows that sustainable recycling can meet or even exceed the standards of traditional supply chains.

Speaker 2

And that's gotten real traction with our prospective partners reviewing our samples. But I'll tell you though, Mickey, the other piece that I'm really excited about is the flexibility that we're building into our flow sheet and the ARC facility's designs. So with, our developing partner network, we're taking this sort of have it your way approach, where some partners may want nickel metal, others may prefer something like a nickel carbonate, and others may want their nickel, in the form of high purity NMC or nickel manganese cobalt cake. So we're designing our flow sheets and the art plants to deliver what each developing partner needs. So that level of flexibility paired with our strategic pillars about licensing and or building plants, allow us to do the build, own, and operate model as well as an enabler and partner model and gives us the optionality to really meet the market where it is and where it ultimately will be in The US and beyond to enable others to succeed alongside of us.

Speaker 2

And I think that's a real powerful position for us to be in.

Speaker 4

Great. Great. Yeah. That that's exciting to hear. You know, I I definitely like the optionality aspect of that.

Speaker 4

Maybe, you know, if you could give us a little more color on the the tech showcase you just hosted with NAT Battery. You know, just dig into that a little bit. You know, how, are discussions going, you know, there? Is is there any traction that you were able to generate for from that from that?

Speaker 2

Yeah. We've seen a really encouraging wave of engagement coming out of that event. First off, I'd say it was a real honor to host so many of the leading players in the battery and the automotive OEM space. And to have that level of turnout, which was around a 100 attendees in total for the event and also some private tours that took place around the event. And to receive such strong feedback was incredibly validating.

Speaker 2

What stood out in my mind, was the feedback and how many visitors called out the cleanliness and safety and organization of our innovation center and our demonstration plant operations, as well as the quality of materials that we're producing and the thoughtful design of our overall flow sheet. And those comments really meant a lot to us because they came from some of the top minds in the industry. And if you haven't seen it yet, anyone listening or reading the transcript, our August 6 press release includes a direct link to the event recap, and that's complete with photos, testimonial videos from industry leaders who were there. And I really encourage folks to check that out. You can also find it under the media tab in our website in our blog, which we call The Current.

Speaker 2

You just click on media, blog, The Current, and you'll get there. And the videos there are brief, but I think they're powerful, and they make it clear that we really do have something special here. And in terms of outcomes, we believe the event did a few things per your question. It helped push forward some of the ongoing conversations we were already having with some of these strategic prospective partners, and it also opened the door to some brand new discussions we've been having with players that we hadn't yet engaged. And maybe most importantly though for the duration and the durability of the event is that it left a lasting impression on the industry.

Speaker 2

After the visit, the industry now does have irrefutable firsthand evidence that Aqua Metals has developed a truly sustainable and economically competitive recycling process. And we can help stand up the closed loop battery mineral supply chains in The US and other China markets, and that's a major differentiator to me. And this event really helped cement that message.

Speaker 4

Great. Great. Love to hear that. You know, it really looked like a pretty impressive event. And, you know, I I think, you know, more of these tangible touch points, you know, with industry leaders is very valuable.

Speaker 4

And then if I get I could squeeze in a couple more here. Sure. One on the side. You know, there's just there's a lot going on with regulations and incentives and and trade policies out there. Can you just give us your view on, you know, how you think potential incentives or trade policies in the future could, you know, impact your competitiveness?

Speaker 2

Yeah. So so that's a a great question, kind of the area that we can't directly control, but we could certainly influence and help benefit from. And one of the things that we took a lot of time, being proactive about during the National Battery, Conference get together is that we feel like we got a lot of support for, the industry telling, the government administration, the various groups within the government, that what we really need to stand up The US market here is a policy that encourages producers of black mass. So those that collect the lithium batteries and then preprocess them, which is the input to recyclers, that rather than be a net exporter of that material to sell through Korea or other locations at very high payables, that you can't make as much money in The US on, If there was a tax incentive, for example, in place, to, encourage and reward those preprocessors to sell those materials domestically so we can begin to produce a and stand up an actual recycling set of infrastructure in The US, that would be something that everybody in the industry seems to be able to get behind. And we spoke with the National Battery Organization themselves and got support and some vehicle OEMs as well as the preprocessors themselves.

Speaker 2

And so we're greatly encouraged as that being one of the areas that industry, is going to try to influence, our senators and congresspeople and various groups within the administration on encouraging that type of incentive. And that is a ongoing effort, we hope to see things there. We're still in an uncertain period in terms of other policies and we're awaiting what we see from the DOE as well as we are encouraged on what the DOD has done. For example, I'll call out that there was, an announcement recently of stockpiling, I believe it's $2,500,000,000 worth of cobalt. Our technology is the only recycling technology that can produce cobalt in the form of cobalt rounds, and that's an industry standard material.

Speaker 2

And we believe that a policy setting like that, can really help, to stand up recycling in The US by, showing government support for the outbound materials that could come out of the recycling infrastructure if it were to be developed. Because let's remind everybody, right now there is about zero tons per year of commercial quantities of recycling collectively in the industry, and we need to get to a number far beyond that. And these kinds of policies and other things that we're working on with the industry and the trade organizations, we believe, could really make a difference and an impact in the coming years.

Speaker 4

Great. Great. Alright. And then last one here, you know, you you made some some good progress being prudent with your cash and and on the balance sheet side of things. You know?

Speaker 4

So with no more long term debt, you know, can you just talk about sort of what flexibility you have to structure partnerships, whether that be through equity or royalties or maybe licensing? You know, which do you see as likely? And and, you know, maybe some of the breathing room you you've bought yourself because you just, get into that. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yeah. So, fortunately, because of the great work that Eric has done to develop stronger cash position through some asset divestiture that was nonessential assets and other tools to increase our cash, we do have that runway to be able to work towards some of these strategic partnerships in developing the right relationships with the right players. And so we're really fortunate that we feel like we've got a significant amount of runway and time to see through those discussions. And, that's a really important aspect of keeping this business moving along and, frankly, keeping the whole industry moving along is that all the companies in this space need to be collaborating and working together, versus try to go with a loan strategy and, making sure that our, balance sheets allow us the time to be able to establish those relationships is just absolutely critical. And I think we took a really good step in this past quarter in that direction.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Alright. Thanks.

Speaker 4

That's all for me.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Mickey.

Operator

Thank you. And I'll now hand the floor over to Bob Myers for any web questions.

Speaker 1

Yes, thank you. First question, can you elaborate on the patent allowance you received and how it is supporting discussions with potential partners?

Speaker 2

Yeah. Happy to. So just a few weeks ago, we announced that we secured a US patent allowance that covers foundational aspects of our AquaRefining technology for the lithium ion battery recycling space. And that's really a big deal. Beyond just protect protecting our IP, it really activates a key part of our business model that we've been talking about.

Speaker 2

You know, we've always had two strategic pillars. One is the build, own, and operate model where we develop and run our own recycling campuses, which as everybody knows is capital intensive. But the other part of, what we call our, our business model is the enabler and partnering pillar. And this patent is really the unlock for that. And with this allowance in hand, we can now pursue further high margin licensing, joint ventures, and other tech enablement types of deals with partners who want to build cost competitive, clean, domestic battery recycling capabilities without reinventing the wheel.

Speaker 2

So this isn't just a win for IP. It's a revenue enabler for us, and we're already seeing that in our conversations with these potential partners. The patent does give us a tangible, defensible foundation to point in those discussions. And it's clear, it's validated, and it shows the value, I think, that we bring to the table, not just technically, but also commercially.

Speaker 1

Great. Thank you. The next question. This week has been interesting with a surge prices as a major producer in China closes a plant. Can you offer your take on market activity?

Speaker 2

Yes, absolutely. It's definitely been a noteworthy week for the lithium markets and for lithium related stocks. And I think what sparked that, primarily was, in a in a surge thing there was CATL or contemporary Ambrex, one of the world's largest battery makers shutting down operations at a key lithium mine in China's Echun region. That facility accounts for, solely for around 6% of global lithium output. And that move really reverberated through the market immediately.

Speaker 2

And lithium carbonate prices in China popped around 3% and lithium stocks around the world rallied. And that really underscores though how thinly stretched supply chains have become and why prices need to rebound enough to make production viable outside of China. An oversupply and lackluster demand in recent years has driven prices down to levels that made it nearly impossible for non China producers to even compete. But at Aqua Metals, our goal has always been to help enable a US and global solution through an economically viable but also sustainable supply chain. That means making lithium carbonate and indeed really all the battery critical materials from recycled sources and even mined ones competitive on price and on quality.

Speaker 2

And we view this market movement not just as a short term bump, but I view it as a signal that more rational prices could be returning. And that's essential for building a resilient localized set of capabilities. So, yeah, this week's surge is a reminder that it's not just about recycling tech. It's really just about the economics. And we're building towards both sides, the superior specs here at Aqua Metals and strong margins so that ex China markets actually do have a chance to become and then remain more independent.

Speaker 1

Great. Thank you. The next question. In addition to the commentary in your opening remarks, what are the next steps and milestones we can watch out for?

Speaker 2

Great. So our focus right now is on securing the right supply and offtake partnerships that will enable financing for our first commercial ARC facility. But the market has shifted for sure, and we're in a mode of we'll build it when they come versus build on spec. And we believe that we now have the financial runway to pursue the right deals with the right economics in the months ahead. I'm gonna point out again that the recent IP allowance and our flexible offtake model being able to deliver nickel as metal or carbonate or nickel, manganese, cobalt cake has opened up meaningful new discussions and revenue opportunities.

Speaker 2

And that furthers our chances at the right deal or even deals. While still early, it's also notable that we're testing new feedstocks like refinery residues and undersea nodules, which could greatly expand our reach beyond battery recycling. And we look forward to sharing more on those developments as we continue to progress them through lab bench and pilot scale.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Next question. Eric, as the new CFO, can you offer a few more insights about your key objectives in the coming weeks and months ahead?

Speaker 5

Yes. I can. So my my top priority is to continue the strong momentum that we've built on the fiscal side. We already made real progress improving the balance sheet, eliminating the long term debt, and raising liquidity, and I'll be focused on keeping that trend going. The financial discipline is what gives us the ability to pursue the exciting opportunities Steve's been talking about, whether it's building our first commercial arc or enabling others through partnerships.

Speaker 5

The other big area of focus for me is on the financial modeling and partner interface side. We've got active conversations happening around feedstock, offtake, licensing, and JV opportunities, and I'll be spending a good amount of time on the modeling and the economics structuring support supporting those decisions. It's all about making sure we optimize every opportunity while keeping the company on solid financial footing.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Next question. Why did AquaRentals execute the reverse stock split?

Speaker 5

That's a that's a good question. So the primary reason for the reverse stock split was to support our efforts to regain full compliance with the Nasdaq listing requirements. We've had a ongoing conversation with the Nasdaq, and this is a movie this is to move the part of working through those final steps. We view the Nasdaq listing as a strategic asset. It brings the real benefits to our shareholders from, both liquidity and visibility.

Speaker 5

Staying listed also gives us access to the larger pool of institutional and retail investors, especially those that prioritize the transparency, good governance, and emerging growth stories like Aqua Metals. So while these moves are never taken lightly, we see this as an important step in positioning the company for long term opportunity.

Speaker 1

Thank you. And the next question. You discussed a cost comparison study of AquaRefining. Can you explain that a bit more?

Speaker 5

Yes. I can. This is something that we're pretty excited about, because as we've said from the beginning, if The US and other markets want to truly compete with China in battery recycling, we need to change the game. We can't just match it. The study we completed internally compared the cost structure of AquaRefining to both traditional US and Chinese hydromet plants, and we have found what we found was really compelling.

Speaker 5

Our process is cost competitive with China and actually runs at about half the cost of traditional US hydro met recycling. One of the key drivers is the Aqua Metals eliminates the need to manage and dispose of huge volumes of single use chemicals. And we use electricity instead to regenerate those needed chemicals. That's both a CapEx and an OpEx savings. And especially in ex Chinese markets, the disposal of a byproduct like sodium sulfate is extremely expensive.

Speaker 5

Our process avoids producing and then crystallizing that sodium sulfate waste stream on the back end, which exceeds the valuable lithium, nickel, and cobalt minerals combined, which is a big deal from both a cost and a sustainability standpoint. So when you put all that together, we believe that Aqua Metals refining gives us and our partners a much better shot at building a viable critical minerals recycling industry here in The US and other markets. Because at the end of the day, price matters with commodities, AquaRefining is designed to compete where it counts.

Operator

Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, that is all the time we have for questions. I'll now hand the floor back to Steve Cotton for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Well, thanks, everybody, for attending. And, we are very proud of the accomplishments in the past quarter from perspective, operational and commercial and kind of some new strategies in addition to battery recycling. And we've done what we can do to continue to keep the stock listed through the NASDAQ and expect those conversations compliance to be productive. And our cost comparison has really made an impact in our conversations with potential partners in The US. They're seeing that it is, as Eric said, that price matters with commodities.

Speaker 2

We think that we've got the right set of tools, not only for ourselves, but to help enable others. And we appreciate all the support from our shareholders. And we look forward to reporting updates ad hoc. And between now and the next quarterly call, I wish everybody a great day, a great week and a great quarter. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. And with that, we conclude today's conference call. All parties may now disconnect. Have a good day.

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