NYSE:IONQ IonQ Q2 2025 Earnings Report $39.79 +2.62 (+7.05%) Closing price 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$39.79 0.00 (0.00%) As of 05:04 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast IonQ EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.70Consensus EPS -$0.13Beat/MissMissed by -$0.57One Year Ago EPS-$0.18IonQ Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$20.69 millionExpected Revenue$17.23 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$3.47 millionYoY Revenue Growth+81.60%IonQ Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2025Date8/6/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, August 6, 2025Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsIonQ's Q3 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, November 5, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by IonQ Q2 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 6, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Revenue beat the top end of guidance by 15% with $20.7 M recognized and a $1 B capital raise closed at a premium, bolstering IONQ’s cash position to $1.6 B pro forma. Positive Sentiment: Expanded global footprint through MOUs with Japan’s AIST & GQAT, selection by South Korea’s KISTI, and a $22 M deal with EPB to build the first US commercial quantum hub, strengthening market reach. Positive Sentiment: Advanced technology roadmap via acquisitions of LightSync and Capella and pending Oxford Ionix deal, targeting 800 logical qubits by 2027 and 80,000 by 2030 at industry-leading unit economics. Negative Sentiment: Operating expenses rose 201% year-over-year to $181.3 M—driven by a 231% jump in R&D—resulting in a Q2 net loss of $177.5 M and an adjusted EBITDA loss of $36.5 M. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallIonQ Q2 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the IONQ second quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by 0. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask question. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touch tone phone. Operator00:00:25To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Please note this event is being recorded. I would like to turn the conference over to Helly DiNascio, Investor Relations Director. Please go ahead. Executive00:00:44Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to IONQ's Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. My name is Hanley D'Onofrio, and I'm the Investor Relations Director here at IONQ. I'm pleased to be joined on today's call by Niccolo DiMaffi, IONQ's chairman and chief executive officer Thomas Kramer, our chief financial officer Jordan Shapiro, our president and general manager of quantum networking Frank Bacchus, President of Capella and Dean Kassman, our Senior Vice President of Engineering and Technology. By now, everyone should have access to the company's second quarter twenty twenty five earnings press release issued this afternoon, which is available on the Investor Relations section of our website at investors.ionq.com. Please note that on today's call, management will refer to adjusted EBITDA, which is a non GAAP financial measure. Executive00:01:37While the company believes this non GAAP financial measure provides useful information for investors, the presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. You are directed to our press release for a reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA to its closest comparable GAAP measure. During the call, we will discuss our business outlook and make forward looking statements. These comments are based on our predictions and expectations as of today. Actual events or results could differ materially due to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those mentioned in our 10 Q that we have filed with the SEC today. Executive00:02:16We undertake no obligation to revise any statements to reflect changes that occur after this call, except as required by law. Now, I'll turn it over to Niccolo Demofe, Chairman and CEO of IONQ. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:02:28Good afternoon everyone and thank you for joining us. I would like to begin today's call with an update from our Board, which earlier today announced my appointment as Chairman. Peter Chapman, our previous Chairman, has now stepped down from his position at INQ. I want to thank Peter for his longtime service to INQ over the last six years and wish him the very best in his retirement from INQ. I'm honored to receive this further vote of confidence in me by the board as INQ continues to extend its leadership in quantum computing and quantum networking. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:03:00As I take on these additional responsibilities, I'm excited to continue executing on our strategic priorities and extending INQ's leadership position in the quantum era. INQ is experiencing incredible momentum and I've never been more confident in our potential as we have look ahead. With that, let's get into our latest results. We had an exciting quarter at INQ. Revenue beats the top end of guidance by 15% and we completed the largest capital raise from a single institution in the quantum industry, growing our net cash position by $1,000,000,000 While our CFO will detail last month's investment from an affiliate of Susquehanna in greater detail, the $1,000,000,000 investment was closed at a premium to the prior market close. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:03:49It is an endorsement of all we have achieved thus far and are poised to deliver in the coming quarters and years. This quarter, we significantly expanded our global footprint, solidifying our role as the partner of choice by countries building their quantum economies. We signed an MOU designed to advance quantum computing in Japan with AIST's GQAT, the country's premier R and D center for quantum and AI. We were also recently named the primary quantum partner by South Korea's KISTI Institute to build their National Quantum Center of Excellence. In The US, we announced a 22,000,000 deal to build the first commercial quantum computing and networking hub in America with EPB, a pioneering power and telecommunications company. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:04:38Additionally, our partnership with the US government continues with our selection by DARPA to help inform quantum industry standards. Beyond building these ecosystem partnerships, we are proving our value on critical commercial applications. For example, we launched a world first collaboration with AstraZeneca, AWS, and NVIDIA that demonstrated a 20x performance speed up for a key drug development workflow showcasing practical quantum advantage. INQ is also tackling critical national energy issues in partnership with Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the U. S. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:05:13Department of Energy. We have developed a new hybrid quantum classical computing approach that helps determine the optimal schedule for power generators to meet electricity demand at minimal cost. This accomplishment establishes a clear path for our systems to address the staggering 60% of energy currently lost due to grid inefficiencies. As we continue shaping the global quantum landscape, my prepared remarks today will focus on two key areas. First, our tremendous strategic progress and second, the strides we're making to attract the world's top quantum talent. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:05:51I'm pleased to report that our strategy has progressed rapidly and gained considerable momentum this past quarter. By our acquisition of LightSync and planned acquisition of OXTRONIX, we have created the most advanced, accelerated, and powerful quantum computing roadmap in the world. As we outlined on our webinar on June 9, we believe the combination of IonQ hardware and software prowess, Oxford's implementation of an ion trap on a chip provides the team IP technology momentum to achieve 800 logical qubits in 2027 and eighty thousand logical qubits in 02/1930. We already have a manufacturing center in Seattle, and with the anticipated addition of Oxford Onyx in The UK, we have an additional site to expand both core computing R and D and manufacturing for EMEA. We also announced the close of our acquisition of Capella in July, representing a significant step forward in recognizing our vision of a space based quantum key distribution network. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:06:51Frank Bacchus, CEO of Capella, will speak to this in more detail shortly. All of my colleagues, both veteran and new, are tremendously excited about the power of our talent density and combined capabilities. There is room for upside in our roadmap as we continue to integrate and operationalize our technologies. But best of all is the truly fantastic combination of low bill of material costs and near limitless extensibility. These attributes of INQ's quantum computing approach are protected by over a thousand patents and patents pending, ensuring winning unit economics at every stage of the quantum revolution. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:07:30Our roadmap assumes octre ions can reach 2,000,000 cubits per chip. However, our ambitions are to continue increasing ion density and driving down costs on octre ions chips to someday have 10,000,000 ion traps on a single chip. Then using INQ's modular scaling approach, we will break the single processor barrier. By connecting two quantum processors via light synced photonic interconnect technology, we plan to scale to tens of millions of logical qubits and deliver immense computational power. INQ's founders have been working on ion traps since the mid-1990s. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:08:08We find that many announcements from competitors today reflect the progress our founders had made by 2010 or even as far back as 02/2001. Our lead enabled us to put our machines on all major hyperscaler public clouds in 2021. Today, have developed applications aimed at delivering commercial advantage for customers and partners such as NVIDIA, AWS, AstraZeneca, ANSYS, General Dynamics, Oak Ridge, and many more. We are vertically integrated with decades of engineering improvements under our belt and decades more to come. The beautiful thing about INQ's quantum computers is that they have worked since before we went public, and we've sold powerful systems for running real world applications that customers are taking advantage of today. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:08:54We expect our bill of materials cost to remain in the 8 figures, even when we have 80,000 logical qubits and millions of physical qubits. We think constantly about unit economics as the history of computing shows that smaller, energy efficient, easily operable, low cost computers always win. It is of course also enormously helpful to have the most powerful and useful computers as well. Ones that have the highest fidelity and the lowest errors so the most impactful applications can run on them. We also made very tangible progress on delivering our AQ64 benchmark, the primary technical milestone we set for 2025, and all indications are that will be reached in the near term. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:09:39Meanwhile, our quantum networking vision has expanded considerably this past quarter with the acquisitions of ID Quantique, Capella and LeightSync. We believe our quantum networking solutions will be table stakes, not only in a world where RSA encryption can be cracked by quantum computers, but also today to protect against the best resourced classical cybersecurity foes. Capella extends both our quantum computing and quantum networking vision into space in a critical race to secure our nation against global bad actors. Our networking products are used by some of the world's household name financial services, telecom and government agencies. INQ Quantum Networking offers the ultimate in communication security. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:10:23It's based on a simple law of physics, and the attempt to eavesdrop on the quantum channel disturbs a single, guaranteeing immediate detection. This isn't just a better firewall, it's a better paradigm that provides our customers with absolute certainty that their communications lines are secure, something no classical system can offer. Moving on now to talent. I'll begin with the wonderful news that our co founder, Doctor. Chris Monroe, has assumed the role of Chief Scientific Advisor. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:10:52He holds the current world record for remote entanglement generation and trapped ion technology, an achievement that opens the door to scalable quantum networks. He'll be spending significant time with our other world record holder in this area, Doctor. Mihir Bhaskar, former CEO and co founder of LiSync. Doctor. Monroe, of course, also previously held a world record for qubit fidelity, a record currently held by Doctor. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:11:16Chris Balance at Oxrionics. It's of course both exciting and delightful that INQ now has world record holders in all our key scaling vectors, collaborating on a daily basis to accelerate our momentum towards full fault tolerance. On the networking side, we're also very pleased that ID Quantique's founder, Doctor. Gregoire Ribourdie, will remain in his role post close to continue building on his twenty years of leadership in quantum networking. Based in our Geneva office, Doctor. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:11:45Riberdy is a giant of the QKD space and has been shipping ever more impressive generations of his quantum networking equipment for over a decade now. World renowned quantum researcher and industry figure, Doctor. Marco Pistoia, joined us from JPMorgan Chase, where he previously ran all technology research at the biggest bank in the world. Doctor. Pistoia is uniquely able to support our global efforts in financial services from both quantum computing and networking perspectives. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:12:12Doctor. Rick Muller has joined us to head up quantum computing systems development. As many of you know, Doctor. Muller was formerly the director of IARPA, our nation's intelligence advanced research projects activity organization, which is tasked with leading high risk, high payoff research to the intelligence community. Doctor. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:12:29Muller is also a distinguished researcher, originally from Caltech, with over 20 of experience at Sandia National Labs. Finally, I'm excited that Paul Dacier has joined the company as Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary for I and Q. For over twenty six years, Paul was the General Counsel of EMC Corporation, where he was instrumental in driving significant growth for the company. During his tenure, revenue grew from $170,000,000 to $25,000,000,000 in 2016. Employees grew from 7 and 50,000 to $68,000 and the company's market cap grew from $100,000,000 to $55,000,000,000 As I've said before, I believe talent is the proverbial Warren Buffett weighing machine, most relevant to any company's long term prospects. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:13:11It's tremendously validating and an outstanding vote of confidence in INQ's progress to have such towering world class talent depart from highly respected roles become our colleagues at INQ. With the support of our market making talent, our customer ecosystem continues to grow as we build the world's leading quantum computing and networking offerings. We expect to derive our long term success from our ability to land and expand with both our computing and networking solutions. As a final comment, with the strongest balance sheet thus far in INQ history, we have the ability to continue leading, pioneering and growing our ecosystem in both quantum computing and quantum networking worldwide. I now hand you over to Jordan Shapiro, President and General Manager of INQ Quantum Networking, who will touch on our networking highlights this quarter. Jordan ShapiroPresident & General Manager - Quantum networking at IonQ00:13:59Thank you, Niccolo. I'm excited to share that after announcing the formation of our Quantum Networking division last quarter, we are already making significant progress in positioning IonQ as the leading provider of the quantum internet. The takeaways for today are as follows. One, quantum networking provides the ultimate in cyber security today for customers intent on long term security for data transmission, protecting against sophisticated classical threats from bad actors worldwide. Quantum key distribution or QKD is the only provably secure protection against potential future hacking attempts made by quantum computers. Jordan ShapiroPresident & General Manager - Quantum networking at IonQ00:14:43Two, INQ's QKD products are the only ones in the world to have any form of formal security certification. Three, INQ is the only company offering commercial quantum networks at scale today that leverage quantum entanglement, meaning they can be used to connect quantum computers and other quantum devices. Four, INQ's quantum computers are the only systems that are being developed with quantum networking built in. As Niccolo mentioned, our QKD products are already being used in production by leading governments, financial institutions, telecom providers, energy companies and enterprises. Customers buy QKD because it is the only technology that uses the principles of quantum physics to ensure that no one can steal their data. Jordan ShapiroPresident & General Manager - Quantum networking at IonQ00:15:36Software techniques like post quantum cryptography algorithms, while offering some protection, are not provably secure. Over time their security is decreasing and vulnerabilities are rising. Our customers trust INQ because our QKD products are already manufactured at scale, fit into a one unit high rack mountable server, and are used every day to protect information across the globe. Moreover, our cutting edge Clavis devices produced by ID Quantique received the world's first ever security certification for QKD earlier this year via South Korea's National Intelligence Service. Meanwhile, IonQ is the only company building the quantum internet at commercial scale. Jordan ShapiroPresident & General Manager - Quantum networking at IonQ00:16:26We are working with customers to bring all forms of quantum edge devices onto our quantum networks from security endpoints to quantum computers. INQ customers will soon be able to cluster quantum computers for extremely powerful processing, send ultra secure data from one quantum computer to another and seamlessly transmit data from quantum sensors to quantum computers. A key milestone in this roadmap is our ability to build quantum networks over standard telecom fiber, which requires technology to convert wavelengths from these quantum devices to wavelengths compatible with classical networks. We are working on that technology with customers today and expect to be the first company in the world to achieve it. Across all dimensions, the infrastructure for the quantum internet is being built here at IonQ. Jordan ShapiroPresident & General Manager - Quantum networking at IonQ00:17:21Now I'd like to hand the call over to Frank Bacchus, CEO of Capella. Frank BackesCEO - Capella at IonQ00:17:27Thank you, Jordan. As both Jordan and Niccolo have highlighted, we are witnessing a revolution in the global computing and networking landscape driven by the maturation and deployment of quantum technologies. Today, I'd like to offer the perspective of the space sector on how quantum enhanced space systems and sensors are poised to transform the future of computing and networking infrastructure, integrating advanced capabilities into everyday applications. Newly a part of IonQ, Capella is focused on taking quantum technologies into orbit. We design, manufacture, own and operate a proliferated constellation of low earth orbit satellites that we plan to outfit with quantum communication devices, quantum sensors and one day quantum computers. Frank BackesCEO - Capella at IonQ00:18:30We believe that our quantum enabled satellites will be highly differentiated in the market, paving the way for a new generation of ultra secure, extremely powerful computing and networking infrastructure with a global footprint. Capella has already proven we can put production grade satellites into orbit. Today we are producing streams of earth observation data with a constellation of satellites that operate day or night through clouds and in other challenging conditions, bringing critical information to leading defense, government and enterprise customers. IonQ will be expanding Capella's proliferated low earth orbit constellation to meet global demand. The integration of ING technologies means we will be able to collect and process data in never before seen ways and transmit that data in a way that is provably secure, even from the threat of quantum computers. Frank BackesCEO - Capella at IonQ00:19:43We are committed to pioneering the new frontier of quantum technologies in space, providing our customers with an accelerated path to secure high performance and resilient solutions for the future. Now I'd like to hand the call over to Thomas Kramer, IONQ's CFO. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:20:07Thank you, Niccolo, Jordan and Frank. It has been truly an exciting quarter on the commercial front and our financials are no exception. Let's walk through this quarter financial results in more detail. As Niccolo mentioned, we had a fantastic quarter, recognizing revenue of $20,700,000 beating the high end of our guidance by 15%. In addition, we are making new investments to accelerate our roadmap as well as entering new segments of the market and we expect to continue to invest in the ecosystems that support our customers. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:20:41Accordingly, we saw an adjusted EBITDA loss for the second quarter of thirty six point five million dollars compared to a $23,700,000 loss in a prior year period. To understand the key drivers behind that number, let's turn to our expenses. Total operating costs for the second quarter were $181,300,000 up two zero one percent from $60,300,000 in the prior year period, but within our plan for the year. To break this down further, our research and development costs for the second quarter were $103,400,000 up 231% from 31,200,000 in the prior year period. Recall that we are investing heavily in R and D and growing our R and D headcount to support our roadmap and customer commitments. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:21:31Our sales and marketing costs in the second quarter were $10,900,000 up 77% from $6,100,000 in the prior year period. This increase was due to us growing both our marketing and sales teams as we continue investing in our commercial efforts. Our general and administrative costs in the second quarter were $48,100,000 up two sixty nine percent $13,100,000 in the prior year period. These increases were primarily driven by an increase in professional services and payroll related expenses. All of this resulted in a net loss of $177,500,000 in the second quarter compared to a $37,600,000 net loss in the prior year period. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:22:23Accounting for warrants can be confusing, so we have always pointed out the impact they have on our results. This Q2 loss includes a non cash loss of $39,600,000 for the second quarter related to the fair value of our warrant liabilities. This is a pure accounting artifact that is not representative of the operating performance of our business. These results also include growth in stock based compensation expense related to our headcount growth, which was $99,200,000 for the second quarter compared to $21,000,000 in the prior year period. This elevated stock based compensation expense was due primarily to incentives issued to newly acquired and hired employees. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:23:09Turning now to our balance sheet. Cash, cash equivalents and investments as of 06/30/2025 were $656,800,000 As we announced previously, in July, we raised $1,000,000,000 in an equity offering priced at a 25% premium above our closing price for the prior trading session. This investment to our knowledge is the largest investment by a single investor into quantum computing and networking and we are honored to be the recipient. The equity offering also included seven year warrants at $99.88 per share, a strong indication of confidence in INQ's longer term prospects. Our pro form a cash balance as of 07/09/2025 was $1,600,000,000 making IonQ the most well capitalized pure play quantum provider in the market today. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:24:08Continuing now to our financial outlook, we are increasing our revenue guidance for the full year 2025 to be between 82,000,000 and $100,000,000 and expect revenue for the third quarter to be between 25,000,000 and $29,000,000 Last quarter, we projected an adjusted EBITDA loss of $162,000,000 for the full year 2025. Pending the close of the Oxford Ionix acquisition, we anticipate that integration and our continued investments into accelerate our roadmap will result in an increase to our cost base for the year. We envision this will widen our adjusted EBITDA loss up to 30% or a total of $211,000,000 Now back to Uniqlo. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:24:56Our customer ecosystem now includes not only the winning quantum computing roadmap, but also the clear global leader in quantum networking. We in fact expect our unit economics advantage and the fully fault tolerant era to be one to two orders of magnitude lower than competitor efforts. INQ has commercialized considerably faster than startups who do not have our thirty year heritage. We were first to operate in all three of the Google, Amazon and Microsoft public clouds five years ago. Looking forward, we believe our unit economic advantages will underpin INQ's long term market share leadership. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:25:35INQ also intends to accelerate this investment in our application roadmap, which we outlined in our June 9 webinar. Given our unparalleled unit economics and scale, we have a clear opportunity in the coming years to profitably address long hypothesized quantum classics, such as the traveling salesperson problem, as well as Shor's algorithm. I'll now turn this over to the operator for Q and A. Operator00:26:04Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch tone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Operator00:26:41First question comes from Quinn Bolton with Needham and Co. Please go ahead. Quinn BoltonMD - Equity Research at Needham & Company00:26:47Hey, guys. Congratulations on all the progress again this quarter. I guess I wanted to start with the revenue that came in better than expected. That's great to see. You guys are diversifying the revenue stream now with the Quantum Key Distribution, Quantum Networking efforts. Quinn BoltonMD - Equity Research at Needham & Company00:27:03And I was wondering if you could give us some sense how much revenue are you starting to generate from the non quantum computing efforts in the business? And then I've got a follow-up. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:27:15So thank you for those words and a great question. We are continuing to deliver on our plans for the year and the beat on this quarter was primarily due to two projects for existing customers where we've been able to accelerate the pace of implementation. Quinn BoltonMD - Equity Research at Needham & Company00:27:36Were those mostly on the quantum computing side or could that include the Air Force Research Lab on quantum networking? Just some sense on the mix. Is it still predominantly quantum computing? Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:27:48It's an excellent question. But as we've said in previous quarters, many of these projects, in particular the AFRL one, contains both sides of the coin. It's quantum computing and networking. Quinn BoltonMD - Equity Research at Needham & Company00:28:02Got it. Got it. Second question is, you guys, I guess in June announced the acquisition of Oxford IONIQs, you were selected for the DARPA quantum benchmarking program back in early April. And I guess, as you guys have pivoted the roadmap now or accelerated the roadmap with Oxford IONIQs, can you just sort of address how are you feeling about progressing from stage A to stage B in QBI? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:28:32Yeah, no, I'm happy to take this. It's Niccolo. Well, look, the fantastic thing about the talent density and the technology that we've assembled at I and Q is that Akshay Onyx itself was also put into the DARPA QBI initiative earlier this year. So INQ is in a fantastic position overall. Both ourselves and our announced acquisition obviously are considered fantastic businesses in their own right. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:29:01On a combined basis, we think it's of course an even stronger offering. So I think it's safe to say that we continue to progress as two shots on goal, if you will, until the acquisition closes. But once it closes, we'll be progressing as a single unified roadmap that we think is extremely powerful when you think about not just how many logical qubits we're gonna have pretty soon, but also the unit economics involved. We feel very good about our prospects both in phase B and ultimately in phase C. Quinn BoltonMD - Equity Research at Needham & Company00:29:39Excellent. And maybe last, Nicola, just any update on the timing of the close on Oxford IONIQs? Could you just give us an update where you are on any regulatory approvals that you need? Do you still expect to close that transaction later in calendar twenty twenty five? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:29:55Yes, we absolutely do still expect it to close later. This is of course subject to regulatory approval in The UK. And that is proceeding constructively, but we are not able to give a precise date on this call, although I think it's safe to say that both Oxford and INQ of course look forward to a closing as soon as possible. Quinn BoltonMD - Equity Research at Needham & Company00:30:21Excellent, thank you. Operator00:30:27The next question comes from Troy Jensen from Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead. Troy JensenManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:30:34Hey, gentlemen. Congrats on on all the progress and and milestones here. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:30:39Thank you. Troy JensenManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:30:41Hey. So, Nicholas, maybe for you, first of all, 80,000 logical qubits by 2030. At that level, can you just talk about what type of encryption are you guys crashing or how advanced is the quantum computer at that point? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:30:58Yeah, I mean, Troy, I think we have the leading logical qubit roadmap bar none on a global basis. And I say that not only because of the sheer number of logical qubits, but also the cost of a machine of that size, which is very low compared to competitors you might run into, Troy, that probably will have machines that will cost 10 or 100 times more for a similar number of logical qubits. We published an application roadmap on June 9 at our webinar, and we showed you every year on our roadmap what we can do from an applications perspective. So we're showing you what we can do even at 1,500 large little qubits. We're showing what we can do at 10,000 large little qubits. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:31:46And we're showing you can do, of course, at 80,000. What I think I would highlight is these are just the known application areas that we've identified that we already are working on. As you've seen throughout the compute space, Troy, from CPUs to GPUs to now our QPUs, much of the upside and value comes from problems that you haven't thought of addressing yet. And it kind of emerges, if you will, as an emergent phenomenon as you start solving problems with ever more doubly exponentially powerful machines as INQ has. So I there's tremendous upside in the app roadmap from quantum AI and quantum machine learning in particular. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:32:28We've already made some industrial AI applications as far back as World Quantum Day on April, earlier this year. We're continuing to make progress with a number of partners, not just in the IA space, but of course in the drug discovery space. You saw announcements from us on protein folding, as well as, of course, with AstraZeneca. You've seen announcements with partners looking at the energy grid and optimizations there. And of course, we work closely with the Electric Power Board of Tennessee and Oak Ridge National Labs already. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:33:02So I think it's safe to say that we've got a commanding lead in solving useful applications today even on just 36 qubit systems. Imagine where we're gonna be in the next year, year and a half, two years as we move to two thirty six qubits and at some point soon 10,000 physical qubits in combination with our friends at Oxrionics. It unlocks a whole world, frankly, of value add for every industry category we're in already today. We think that you can start to do useful Shores algorithm work probably in the 2027 time horizon if you look at our roadmap. Low thousands of logical qubits starts to become interesting for us on the encryption cracking front. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:33:52The traveling sales person problem I believe is about 1,000 logical qubits as well. And so a lot of work in logistics optimizations will get unlocked in the next eighteen months or so. And obviously, think it's for Troy, our team is growing as quickly as we can find the talent. We recognize that it's a unique set of skills to be able to run quantum applications on our machines and then translate those for each of the verticals that have slightly different problems that we've gone after. But as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, it's a key investment area for us. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:34:28So we recognize that the path for growth for us goes right through our applications in all these different areas. Troy JensenManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:34:34Great answers. Thank you for that. Just like a follow-up and kind of a couple of things together here. Can you talk about just the acquisitions you've done, I think it's like six now, integrating all these businesses, I've seen companies struggle doing one or two acquisitions, you guys doing a lot at the same time here. You got a lot of money now on your balance sheet, thoughts on kind of more consolidation or you just address the topic, that'd be great. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:34:59Yeah, I mean, we have a couple of things. So I've made more than 50 acquisitions in my career as a public company leader across over a dozen public companies. And so I like to think we get better at these things over time. You heard from Frank Bacchus, who is actually on this call. Frank and I were very focused on cultural fit early on. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:35:21We're all professional managers of our firm. We both want to make the industrial logic work. It's the same with Oxbionics and Leitzink and our friends at Cubitech and Entangled Networks from earlier this year and last year. And what we're finding actually is one plus one doesn't just equal three, it equals 13 or 30. And there is mutual curiosity when we merge with new entities. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:35:47Everyone is aligned and of course taking stock in an enlarged I and Q. And so everyone's able to both work together to rally on our biggest revenue opportunities, but also to continue growing their business in its own right. So we're investing in the infrastructure we need to make sure integrations go well. We've got experience on it, whether it's IT through to the actual technical roadmaps, and of course, the soft side, if you will, of making sure that people have similar cultural definitions, understandings of success. But honestly, we don't lose any sleep about this because there is so much to gain together. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:36:28The teams are proactively excited and reaching out to one another and doing integration honestly on their own in a lot of ways. So yeah, mean, we will continue to monitor the landscape. We now have two big growth factors for our business, computing and networking. Networking, we're doing both on the ground, but also ground to space, space to space, and space to ground the most vulnerable pieces of our communications infrastructure. And I think we're finding that new opportunities are unlocking themselves, frankly, every week. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:37:00We have put together a unique asset in business here. No one else in the world can do networking on the ground in space and computing. And right now, sovereign nations in the friendly world want more of everything that INQ has to offer. And so we're supply limited, not demand limited, if that makes sense. Troy JensenManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:37:21Yeah, great. Alright guys, keep up the great work. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:37:25Thanks, Troy. Operator00:37:30The next question comes from Joe Moore with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Joseph MooreManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:37:36Great. Thank you. I wanted to ask about Chris Monroe coming back. I am getting kind of questions about it. It seems like it's great news. Joseph MooreManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:37:43He's obviously, you characterized his capabilities, but it caused some consternation when he left. Just maybe if you could address, is there anything to sort of read into the fact that he left and then came back now? Thank you. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:37:58I'd like to at Zicolo. I'd like to say that there's something to be read into all of the tremendous talent that's joined IQ in the past quarter. So whether it's Rick Mueller or Marco Pastoria, Chris Monroe, Paul Dacier, we've also added a long list actually of VPs to the business in the last quarter in areas from business development through to actually acquisition integrations. And so I think everyone is recognizing that As want to work with As and talent success helps attract yet more of it. I think Chris spending more time with us is a tremendous vote of confidence, not just in our computing roadmap but also our networking roadmap. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:38:40I think it speaks very highly of what he thinks about Chris Balance and Mihir Bhaskar as well. And I think you're seeing that you've got four world records, if you will, held by individuals who are all at IonQ, both on the Fidelity side as well as the networking side. And they want to continue pioneering the future together right here at IonQ. So we're excited to have everyone. We welcome ever more world class talent. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:39:09I think we've attracted some in the organization that haven't been announced today, but continue to join us from nation's finest laboratories. And on a global basis, we're always on the lookout for the very best, most experienced everywhere from networking to computing to applications. So I'd say, look, in summary, it is, I think, a vindication of our strategy. We're excited to have Chris here and we're excited to have everyone else that we've announced today all working together because we recognize that we're at the intersection of pioneering technology that has never done what we've done in the last decade or two. And the next five years, ten years, has even more to be built together. Joseph MooreManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:39:54Very helpful context, thank you. Operator00:39:59The next question comes from Richard Shannon with Craig Hallum. Please go ahead. Analyst00:40:06Hello, everybody. This is Tyler on for Richard Shannon. I was wondering, can LIGHT Sync be ran at room temperature for compute or sensing purposes? And if so, what is the plan for those? And I'll I'll let you go from there. I have a follow-up. Thank you. Dean KassmannSVP - Engineering & Technology at IonQ00:40:28This is Dean. So, the overall technology that LightSync has in their quantum memories does require cryogenic kind of mild cryogenic temperatures to be able to achieve. And so they're similar to the cryogenic enhanced vacuum systems that are used in other trapped ion systems. And so it's not super exotic, but it does require lower temperatures to be able to realize that quantum memory. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:41:06We're always developing the next generation of all of our hardware. As Dean put it, cryogenic we hope becomes milder and we hope the size also of these repeaters shrinks, and it should every generation also. Analyst00:41:24Yeah, and then just for you and everybody else, I do understand that diamond memories tend to be cryogenically cooled. I was just wondering if it wasn't cooled, would it be used for compute or sensing or if it always had to be? Okay. And then when you're considering the combination of Oxford IONIQs and IONQ, what is the plan with these two different processors? Are we keeping these separate or are we putting these together? Analyst00:41:53And then what are the goalposts for emergence? And if you can comment on Iceberg Quantum and how that relates to QBI? Dean KassmannSVP - Engineering & Technology at IonQ00:42:03So, Tyler, on the two different technology stacks, we are absolutely integrating them together. As we look at our integration plans moving forward, being able to what Niccolo indicated is putting more qubits on a chip as well as the technology for the quantum memory and doing photon capture on those chips to be able to network them together, that is absolutely coupled technology on the computing side as we kind of scale out. Those different pieces come in at different parts of our roadmap as we move out to thousands and millions of cubits, but, they're definitely intertwined as we move forward. Analyst00:42:46Okay, thank you. And I'll hop back in the queue for now. Operator00:42:52Thank you. The next question comes from David Williams with Benchmark. Please go ahead. David WilliamsEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:42:58Hey, good afternoon, everyone, and congrats on all the really great progress. And I guess maybe first, Niccolo, can you kind of run through just kind of given how much progress you've had, all the exciting things that's going on at IonQ, is there a way you'd kind of rank order what gets you most energized and maybe where you're most excited? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:43:20There's so much goodness going on in the last six months. I don't actually think of it that way. I think that we're in the business of Quantum in every sense. And quantum for us is both on the compute side and the networking side. And we care about having the leading technical roadmap on both sides of the house. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:43:39We also care about being the leading commercialization player or partner, if you will, on both sides of the house. And we believe that the interconnection of the two provides a moat that is very difficult to counteract this amount if you are a competitor of ours. The fact that we can build the world's best quantum networks, quantum computers, and we can build the repeaters, and we can maintain information security as it's transmitted between quantum computers gives us a phenomenal range of solutions to sell to nations and Fortune 100 companies. If you look at the acquisitions we made and the talent we've attracted, you can see that we are investing on both sides of the house to do exactly what I said. We wanna make sure we always have the leading technical roadmap, the best unit economics, and to make sure we continue to win market share. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:44:33And we'll continue to invest to achieve all three or four of those objectives. I've been delighted with every acquisition that we've consummated since I assumed this position. And I've been really delighted with the acceleration in global technical talent and talent in general that we've been able to attract. And we're just getting started here. I've been in this role for six, seven months on a full time basis. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:44:59And so I think it bodes very well for the future. We want to carry on doing what we've done in the last two or three quarters, in the next two or three quarters, in the next twenty or thirty quarters. The reality is I think people tend to underestimate how much progress we're making on a monthly, quarterly, and annual basis. They tend to underestimate the progress that quantum computing at INQ is making because of the double exponential nature of improvements in every generation. And they underestimate the need for quantum networking because of the threats, if you will, from not just bad state actors in a classical sense, but because there are bad state actors that are working on so called Q Day and cracking RSA 02/1948. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:45:47And so both sides of our business, on the ground and up in space, are poised, I think, to have inflection points in the coming quarters and years. David WilliamsEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:46:00Great, fantastic color there. And then maybe just for you, Thomas, given these acquisitions, how should we think about the OpEx trends and maybe the breakeven point there? Is there potential maybe to accelerate the path to profitability maybe faster than what you thought previously just kind of given the different revenue bases and opportunities you have in front of you? Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:46:22I think that our primary objective is to accelerate the roadmap and also to find and delight customers because this is a giant space. And whoever gets there first, and we are the leading contender, will reap huge rewards. Obviously, we'll take great care when we decide what to spend on. But right now, we've been able to contract our roadmap so much that this will save us a lot of money in the long term. David WilliamsEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:46:56Thanks so much and best of luck on the quarter. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:46:59Yeah, look, I'd add to that. I think Thomas is spot on, right? When you look at competitor announcements that have come out subsequent to our June 9 webinar, You've seen big companies putting out announcements about being five years behind us. And I think they're the closer competitors, honestly, in the quantum computing space. It is a commanding lead that we have been able to build in the last six or seven months. Operator00:47:33The next question is from the line of Kevin Garringen with Rosenblatt Securities. Please go ahead. Kevin GarriganSenior Research Analyst at Rosenblatt Securities00:47:41Yeah. Hi, all. Let me echo my congrats on on all the progress. Hey. Going off of Troy's acquisition question, any other areas of the business you can point out where you might still be missing a piece of the puzzle? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:47:54Well, look, I always like to jokingly say that although I'm a physicist, never finished a PhD. And so our superpower here is, I'm not trying to defend Dissertation at any point of the week, I'm happy to defend the Ph. D. Dissertations of our fantastic engineering leadership and physicists that we've both hired and acquired. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:48:15And so we're in the early ages and era, if you will, of the quantum revolution, which is the biggest revolution in computing and networking, I think, since computing and networking got going, frankly, eighty years ago. And so as we become a bigger business, as Thomas pointed out, where we see opportunities to bring roadmaps in and move things to the left effectively on roadmaps, we'll always look at that. We have a fully fledged vision, obviously, for the quantum internet that we talked about in the last couple of calls. And the quantum internet someday will be not only quantum sensors that are capturing information, but quantum computers that are processing that information, performing calculations, and quantum networks that allow you to transmit that information and keep it safe throughout the whole system. And so that overall vision is a north star, if you will, for us. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:49:06And we intend to be the leader in the quantum internet and all of its components as that plays out. And as there's an acceleration in spend, not just from governments but from Fortune 100 and Fortune 1,000 companies ultimately. Kevin GarriganSenior Research Analyst at Rosenblatt Securities00:49:22Okay, I appreciate that color. And then as a follow-up, I'm still getting a lot of investor questions regarding the intersection of quantum and AI. So wondering if you can give some details on the collaboration with AIST that is focusing on real world quantum AI applications and what some of those applications are? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:49:43Well, me talk more generally than just on AIST. So if you think about what we announced back in April at World Quantum Day, we showed real world industrial AI examples in categories like reducing defects in steel, and of course training generative adversarial networks to learn faster. And we're continuing to see great progress there. You can actually look at most of our application successes this year through the lens of machine learning. Whether you want to call that AI or brand that AI, it depends both up to you and on the specific application. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:50:23But I would argue that when you have 20x speed ups in computational drug design with NVIDIA, AWS, AstraZeneca, you're very much demonstrating machine learning and AI through our quantum systems. The pieces of problems that we're able to take down today and deliver quantum advantage on continue to expand. They are still pieces of problems and workflows as opposed to a one stop shop for a workflow from soup to nuts from start to finish. And so you can see that we're collaborating with hyperscalers and the world's biggest GPU makers because we realized that together we can deliver the one stop shop soup to nuts solution for companies in many verticals. And I think you'll continue to see that, frankly. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:51:14So you'll see us partnering with industry expertise. You'll see us partnering with GPU and cloud leaders. And you're also going to see us expand the lens of sub sectors that we were going to work in from logistics to pharma into areas like financial services. We hired Marco Vistoya, who we're honored as working with us, not only because he's generated a lot of IP himself, but also because, of course, he knows more about the financial services industry in quantum computing and quantum networking than probably anybody on the planet. And the great thing about financial services is that ultimately you don't need a lot of infrastructure to address really valuable problems really quickly. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:52:02I talked back at the IPO about financial services and the fact that there's whole chunks of it that had been postulated for a decade or two to be perfect for quantum computers. We are now at the point whereby our quantum computers are big enough to start delivering that quantum advantage at scale and at speed, frankly. And so we are investing across the verticals that you've seen in our investor deck, we've tried it on prior calls, but we continue to look for new verticals. And the delightful thing about our quantum computers is we're finding they can deliver better answers earlier every time we approach a new vertical than was previously forecast. And that will continue to be a trend here. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:52:43Think early achievements, early signal detection, if you will, in every area, I think, is going to be a hallmark of what you see in the coming quarters from us. Kevin GarriganSenior Research Analyst at Rosenblatt Securities00:52:54Got it. That makes sense. Okay, great. I appreciate it. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:52:58Thanks, Kevin. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:52:59Thank you. Operator00:53:02Thank you. The next question is from the line of Richard Shannon from Craig Hallum. Please go ahead. Richard ShannonSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:53:19Hi, guys. Thank you for taking my follow-up. So how many QPU deployments are there between IONQ and Oxford IONIQs worldwide? And considering you're securing data in flight, is there any plan to secure stationary data as well? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:53:40Yeah, I think the short answer is we have sold all the systems that we've ever made at INQ and we continue to do that. Oxford, I think, has sold a system that has been publicly disclosed. I think it's safe to say that there's incredible demand for our two fifty six qubit system that's around the corner and our 10,000 qubit systems on a combined basis. The quantum networking question you're asking about securing data on the ground, absolutely. I'll turn this over to my colleague Jordan, but we're obviously selling entangled quantum networking solutions and QGate solutions every day, and we've announced a number of the larger ones. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:54:27But our businesses have already got quantum networks deployed in places like Tennessee and Korea. And we continue to see incredible demand from household name financial services and telecoms organizations that recognize that, as I jokingly like to put it, our quantum networking solution customers are the ones that are not in the news for data breaches. And so I think as people recognize that increasingly, we'll see the demand and market penetration skyrocket, honestly. And as soon as there is a whiff of a bad state actor, if you will, making any progress whatsoever on RSA 2048 cracking, I think you're gonna see orders of magnitude step changes in networking demand. Jordan ShapiroPresident & General Manager - Quantum networking at IonQ00:55:13That's right. That's data in transit, not data at rest, but that's where QKD offers a massively powerful advantage for our customers in defending. It's a particularly weak point in their security architectures today and one that we can help them shore up. Richard ShannonSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:55:32Awesome. Thank you, guys. And then with the combined companies between Oxford IONIQ and IONQ, is there a way to run all of these gates in parallel, and and how many of these could you do? Could you effectively run the whole system in parallel using the electrical control, and what does that effectively do to your gate speed? And then also I just wanna say, I'll get off after this, but congratulations on the roadmap with the logical cubic counts. That's definitely the first I've seen. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:56:07Awesome. Well, thank you. I'm gonna turn this over to Dean, but I think news is the short answer is gate speeds are going up considerably as part of this roadmap and acquisition and merger. But Dean, over to you on electrical control. Dean KassmannSVP - Engineering & Technology at IonQ00:56:20Yeah, thanks, Tyler. So overall, the electronic gate control and the overall move from the 1D architecture to the two d and just inherent way those electronic gates work allows for just a massive, I would say, increase in parallelism that can occur as you execute two qubit gates. And so you can expect overall throughput to really go through a step change as you go and introduce high density kind of two qubit electronic gate control. And this is coupled with what Nicola was saying is that it's also just inherently faster from a gate speed perspective. And so when you're working with the qubits in those qubit based traps, they're just simply faster. Dean KassmannSVP - Engineering & Technology at IonQ00:57:12And so those two coupled together represent just a massive, I would say, overall throughput increase that really just drives also the unit economics that Nicola was also mentioning before. Richard ShannonSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:57:31Got it. Thank you, guys. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:57:33Thanks Tyler. Dean KassmannSVP - Engineering & Technology at IonQ00:57:34Thank you. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:57:36All right. Well, I'm going to wrap up by saying that we're pleased to have announced another quarter of progress here at I and Q. Just to recap a couple of our highlights. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:57:45Firstly, we closed our quantum networking acquisitions of LightSync and Capella, and announced a pending acquisition of Oxford Ionics, which accelerates our expected compute roadmap. We will achieve 800 logical qubits in 2027, 80,000 logical qubits in 02/1930, and I expect hundreds of thousands, if not millions of logical qubits beyond that. Secondly, we're attracting and hiring world class talent from all walks of expertise, which we believe is the greatest indicator of long term success that we can provide. Thirdly, we raised $1,000,000,000 in additional capital to enable INQ to maintain its decisive lead as a full stack quantum computing and quantum networking company. Fourth, we expanded our global footprint with key government and commercial partnerships, including MOUs with Japan's AIST, GQAAT, and South Korea's KISTI, and a world first partnership with AstraZeneca, AWS, and NVIDIA, delivering a 20x drug development speed up. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:58:42We're investing to proliferate our satellite constellation with a roadmap to quantum networking and computing in space. And last but not least, we beat the high end of revenue guidance for Q2 by 15%. We believe the steps we have taken in 2025 to date will ultimately set the stage for INQ's long term leadership in both quantum computing and networking, both of which we believe to be crucially important to the future of our country's national security and national economic security. With our closed and proposed acquisitions and well fortified balance sheet, we believe we have a clear path to millions and eventually tens of millions of qubits, leading to computing power previously unimaginable from a classical standpoint. Join us now and be the first to gain commercial advantage in your industry by leveraging the massive power of our quantum networks and computers. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the IONQ second quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by 0. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask question. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touch tone phone. Operator00:00:25To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Please note this event is being recorded. I would like to turn the conference over to Helly DiNascio, Investor Relations Director. Please go ahead. Executive00:00:44Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to IONQ's Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. My name is Hanley D'Onofrio, and I'm the Investor Relations Director here at IONQ. I'm pleased to be joined on today's call by Niccolo DiMaffi, IONQ's chairman and chief executive officer Thomas Kramer, our chief financial officer Jordan Shapiro, our president and general manager of quantum networking Frank Bacchus, President of Capella and Dean Kassman, our Senior Vice President of Engineering and Technology. By now, everyone should have access to the company's second quarter twenty twenty five earnings press release issued this afternoon, which is available on the Investor Relations section of our website at investors.ionq.com. Please note that on today's call, management will refer to adjusted EBITDA, which is a non GAAP financial measure. Executive00:01:37While the company believes this non GAAP financial measure provides useful information for investors, the presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. You are directed to our press release for a reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA to its closest comparable GAAP measure. During the call, we will discuss our business outlook and make forward looking statements. These comments are based on our predictions and expectations as of today. Actual events or results could differ materially due to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those mentioned in our 10 Q that we have filed with the SEC today. Executive00:02:16We undertake no obligation to revise any statements to reflect changes that occur after this call, except as required by law. Now, I'll turn it over to Niccolo Demofe, Chairman and CEO of IONQ. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:02:28Good afternoon everyone and thank you for joining us. I would like to begin today's call with an update from our Board, which earlier today announced my appointment as Chairman. Peter Chapman, our previous Chairman, has now stepped down from his position at INQ. I want to thank Peter for his longtime service to INQ over the last six years and wish him the very best in his retirement from INQ. I'm honored to receive this further vote of confidence in me by the board as INQ continues to extend its leadership in quantum computing and quantum networking. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:03:00As I take on these additional responsibilities, I'm excited to continue executing on our strategic priorities and extending INQ's leadership position in the quantum era. INQ is experiencing incredible momentum and I've never been more confident in our potential as we have look ahead. With that, let's get into our latest results. We had an exciting quarter at INQ. Revenue beats the top end of guidance by 15% and we completed the largest capital raise from a single institution in the quantum industry, growing our net cash position by $1,000,000,000 While our CFO will detail last month's investment from an affiliate of Susquehanna in greater detail, the $1,000,000,000 investment was closed at a premium to the prior market close. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:03:49It is an endorsement of all we have achieved thus far and are poised to deliver in the coming quarters and years. This quarter, we significantly expanded our global footprint, solidifying our role as the partner of choice by countries building their quantum economies. We signed an MOU designed to advance quantum computing in Japan with AIST's GQAT, the country's premier R and D center for quantum and AI. We were also recently named the primary quantum partner by South Korea's KISTI Institute to build their National Quantum Center of Excellence. In The US, we announced a 22,000,000 deal to build the first commercial quantum computing and networking hub in America with EPB, a pioneering power and telecommunications company. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:04:38Additionally, our partnership with the US government continues with our selection by DARPA to help inform quantum industry standards. Beyond building these ecosystem partnerships, we are proving our value on critical commercial applications. For example, we launched a world first collaboration with AstraZeneca, AWS, and NVIDIA that demonstrated a 20x performance speed up for a key drug development workflow showcasing practical quantum advantage. INQ is also tackling critical national energy issues in partnership with Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the U. S. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:05:13Department of Energy. We have developed a new hybrid quantum classical computing approach that helps determine the optimal schedule for power generators to meet electricity demand at minimal cost. This accomplishment establishes a clear path for our systems to address the staggering 60% of energy currently lost due to grid inefficiencies. As we continue shaping the global quantum landscape, my prepared remarks today will focus on two key areas. First, our tremendous strategic progress and second, the strides we're making to attract the world's top quantum talent. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:05:51I'm pleased to report that our strategy has progressed rapidly and gained considerable momentum this past quarter. By our acquisition of LightSync and planned acquisition of OXTRONIX, we have created the most advanced, accelerated, and powerful quantum computing roadmap in the world. As we outlined on our webinar on June 9, we believe the combination of IonQ hardware and software prowess, Oxford's implementation of an ion trap on a chip provides the team IP technology momentum to achieve 800 logical qubits in 2027 and eighty thousand logical qubits in 02/1930. We already have a manufacturing center in Seattle, and with the anticipated addition of Oxford Onyx in The UK, we have an additional site to expand both core computing R and D and manufacturing for EMEA. We also announced the close of our acquisition of Capella in July, representing a significant step forward in recognizing our vision of a space based quantum key distribution network. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:06:51Frank Bacchus, CEO of Capella, will speak to this in more detail shortly. All of my colleagues, both veteran and new, are tremendously excited about the power of our talent density and combined capabilities. There is room for upside in our roadmap as we continue to integrate and operationalize our technologies. But best of all is the truly fantastic combination of low bill of material costs and near limitless extensibility. These attributes of INQ's quantum computing approach are protected by over a thousand patents and patents pending, ensuring winning unit economics at every stage of the quantum revolution. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:07:30Our roadmap assumes octre ions can reach 2,000,000 cubits per chip. However, our ambitions are to continue increasing ion density and driving down costs on octre ions chips to someday have 10,000,000 ion traps on a single chip. Then using INQ's modular scaling approach, we will break the single processor barrier. By connecting two quantum processors via light synced photonic interconnect technology, we plan to scale to tens of millions of logical qubits and deliver immense computational power. INQ's founders have been working on ion traps since the mid-1990s. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:08:08We find that many announcements from competitors today reflect the progress our founders had made by 2010 or even as far back as 02/2001. Our lead enabled us to put our machines on all major hyperscaler public clouds in 2021. Today, have developed applications aimed at delivering commercial advantage for customers and partners such as NVIDIA, AWS, AstraZeneca, ANSYS, General Dynamics, Oak Ridge, and many more. We are vertically integrated with decades of engineering improvements under our belt and decades more to come. The beautiful thing about INQ's quantum computers is that they have worked since before we went public, and we've sold powerful systems for running real world applications that customers are taking advantage of today. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:08:54We expect our bill of materials cost to remain in the 8 figures, even when we have 80,000 logical qubits and millions of physical qubits. We think constantly about unit economics as the history of computing shows that smaller, energy efficient, easily operable, low cost computers always win. It is of course also enormously helpful to have the most powerful and useful computers as well. Ones that have the highest fidelity and the lowest errors so the most impactful applications can run on them. We also made very tangible progress on delivering our AQ64 benchmark, the primary technical milestone we set for 2025, and all indications are that will be reached in the near term. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:09:39Meanwhile, our quantum networking vision has expanded considerably this past quarter with the acquisitions of ID Quantique, Capella and LeightSync. We believe our quantum networking solutions will be table stakes, not only in a world where RSA encryption can be cracked by quantum computers, but also today to protect against the best resourced classical cybersecurity foes. Capella extends both our quantum computing and quantum networking vision into space in a critical race to secure our nation against global bad actors. Our networking products are used by some of the world's household name financial services, telecom and government agencies. INQ Quantum Networking offers the ultimate in communication security. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:10:23It's based on a simple law of physics, and the attempt to eavesdrop on the quantum channel disturbs a single, guaranteeing immediate detection. This isn't just a better firewall, it's a better paradigm that provides our customers with absolute certainty that their communications lines are secure, something no classical system can offer. Moving on now to talent. I'll begin with the wonderful news that our co founder, Doctor. Chris Monroe, has assumed the role of Chief Scientific Advisor. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:10:52He holds the current world record for remote entanglement generation and trapped ion technology, an achievement that opens the door to scalable quantum networks. He'll be spending significant time with our other world record holder in this area, Doctor. Mihir Bhaskar, former CEO and co founder of LiSync. Doctor. Monroe, of course, also previously held a world record for qubit fidelity, a record currently held by Doctor. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:11:16Chris Balance at Oxrionics. It's of course both exciting and delightful that INQ now has world record holders in all our key scaling vectors, collaborating on a daily basis to accelerate our momentum towards full fault tolerance. On the networking side, we're also very pleased that ID Quantique's founder, Doctor. Gregoire Ribourdie, will remain in his role post close to continue building on his twenty years of leadership in quantum networking. Based in our Geneva office, Doctor. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:11:45Riberdy is a giant of the QKD space and has been shipping ever more impressive generations of his quantum networking equipment for over a decade now. World renowned quantum researcher and industry figure, Doctor. Marco Pistoia, joined us from JPMorgan Chase, where he previously ran all technology research at the biggest bank in the world. Doctor. Pistoia is uniquely able to support our global efforts in financial services from both quantum computing and networking perspectives. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:12:12Doctor. Rick Muller has joined us to head up quantum computing systems development. As many of you know, Doctor. Muller was formerly the director of IARPA, our nation's intelligence advanced research projects activity organization, which is tasked with leading high risk, high payoff research to the intelligence community. Doctor. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:12:29Muller is also a distinguished researcher, originally from Caltech, with over 20 of experience at Sandia National Labs. Finally, I'm excited that Paul Dacier has joined the company as Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary for I and Q. For over twenty six years, Paul was the General Counsel of EMC Corporation, where he was instrumental in driving significant growth for the company. During his tenure, revenue grew from $170,000,000 to $25,000,000,000 in 2016. Employees grew from 7 and 50,000 to $68,000 and the company's market cap grew from $100,000,000 to $55,000,000,000 As I've said before, I believe talent is the proverbial Warren Buffett weighing machine, most relevant to any company's long term prospects. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:13:11It's tremendously validating and an outstanding vote of confidence in INQ's progress to have such towering world class talent depart from highly respected roles become our colleagues at INQ. With the support of our market making talent, our customer ecosystem continues to grow as we build the world's leading quantum computing and networking offerings. We expect to derive our long term success from our ability to land and expand with both our computing and networking solutions. As a final comment, with the strongest balance sheet thus far in INQ history, we have the ability to continue leading, pioneering and growing our ecosystem in both quantum computing and quantum networking worldwide. I now hand you over to Jordan Shapiro, President and General Manager of INQ Quantum Networking, who will touch on our networking highlights this quarter. Jordan ShapiroPresident & General Manager - Quantum networking at IonQ00:13:59Thank you, Niccolo. I'm excited to share that after announcing the formation of our Quantum Networking division last quarter, we are already making significant progress in positioning IonQ as the leading provider of the quantum internet. The takeaways for today are as follows. One, quantum networking provides the ultimate in cyber security today for customers intent on long term security for data transmission, protecting against sophisticated classical threats from bad actors worldwide. Quantum key distribution or QKD is the only provably secure protection against potential future hacking attempts made by quantum computers. Jordan ShapiroPresident & General Manager - Quantum networking at IonQ00:14:43Two, INQ's QKD products are the only ones in the world to have any form of formal security certification. Three, INQ is the only company offering commercial quantum networks at scale today that leverage quantum entanglement, meaning they can be used to connect quantum computers and other quantum devices. Four, INQ's quantum computers are the only systems that are being developed with quantum networking built in. As Niccolo mentioned, our QKD products are already being used in production by leading governments, financial institutions, telecom providers, energy companies and enterprises. Customers buy QKD because it is the only technology that uses the principles of quantum physics to ensure that no one can steal their data. Jordan ShapiroPresident & General Manager - Quantum networking at IonQ00:15:36Software techniques like post quantum cryptography algorithms, while offering some protection, are not provably secure. Over time their security is decreasing and vulnerabilities are rising. Our customers trust INQ because our QKD products are already manufactured at scale, fit into a one unit high rack mountable server, and are used every day to protect information across the globe. Moreover, our cutting edge Clavis devices produced by ID Quantique received the world's first ever security certification for QKD earlier this year via South Korea's National Intelligence Service. Meanwhile, IonQ is the only company building the quantum internet at commercial scale. Jordan ShapiroPresident & General Manager - Quantum networking at IonQ00:16:26We are working with customers to bring all forms of quantum edge devices onto our quantum networks from security endpoints to quantum computers. INQ customers will soon be able to cluster quantum computers for extremely powerful processing, send ultra secure data from one quantum computer to another and seamlessly transmit data from quantum sensors to quantum computers. A key milestone in this roadmap is our ability to build quantum networks over standard telecom fiber, which requires technology to convert wavelengths from these quantum devices to wavelengths compatible with classical networks. We are working on that technology with customers today and expect to be the first company in the world to achieve it. Across all dimensions, the infrastructure for the quantum internet is being built here at IonQ. Jordan ShapiroPresident & General Manager - Quantum networking at IonQ00:17:21Now I'd like to hand the call over to Frank Bacchus, CEO of Capella. Frank BackesCEO - Capella at IonQ00:17:27Thank you, Jordan. As both Jordan and Niccolo have highlighted, we are witnessing a revolution in the global computing and networking landscape driven by the maturation and deployment of quantum technologies. Today, I'd like to offer the perspective of the space sector on how quantum enhanced space systems and sensors are poised to transform the future of computing and networking infrastructure, integrating advanced capabilities into everyday applications. Newly a part of IonQ, Capella is focused on taking quantum technologies into orbit. We design, manufacture, own and operate a proliferated constellation of low earth orbit satellites that we plan to outfit with quantum communication devices, quantum sensors and one day quantum computers. Frank BackesCEO - Capella at IonQ00:18:30We believe that our quantum enabled satellites will be highly differentiated in the market, paving the way for a new generation of ultra secure, extremely powerful computing and networking infrastructure with a global footprint. Capella has already proven we can put production grade satellites into orbit. Today we are producing streams of earth observation data with a constellation of satellites that operate day or night through clouds and in other challenging conditions, bringing critical information to leading defense, government and enterprise customers. IonQ will be expanding Capella's proliferated low earth orbit constellation to meet global demand. The integration of ING technologies means we will be able to collect and process data in never before seen ways and transmit that data in a way that is provably secure, even from the threat of quantum computers. Frank BackesCEO - Capella at IonQ00:19:43We are committed to pioneering the new frontier of quantum technologies in space, providing our customers with an accelerated path to secure high performance and resilient solutions for the future. Now I'd like to hand the call over to Thomas Kramer, IONQ's CFO. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:20:07Thank you, Niccolo, Jordan and Frank. It has been truly an exciting quarter on the commercial front and our financials are no exception. Let's walk through this quarter financial results in more detail. As Niccolo mentioned, we had a fantastic quarter, recognizing revenue of $20,700,000 beating the high end of our guidance by 15%. In addition, we are making new investments to accelerate our roadmap as well as entering new segments of the market and we expect to continue to invest in the ecosystems that support our customers. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:20:41Accordingly, we saw an adjusted EBITDA loss for the second quarter of thirty six point five million dollars compared to a $23,700,000 loss in a prior year period. To understand the key drivers behind that number, let's turn to our expenses. Total operating costs for the second quarter were $181,300,000 up two zero one percent from $60,300,000 in the prior year period, but within our plan for the year. To break this down further, our research and development costs for the second quarter were $103,400,000 up 231% from 31,200,000 in the prior year period. Recall that we are investing heavily in R and D and growing our R and D headcount to support our roadmap and customer commitments. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:21:31Our sales and marketing costs in the second quarter were $10,900,000 up 77% from $6,100,000 in the prior year period. This increase was due to us growing both our marketing and sales teams as we continue investing in our commercial efforts. Our general and administrative costs in the second quarter were $48,100,000 up two sixty nine percent $13,100,000 in the prior year period. These increases were primarily driven by an increase in professional services and payroll related expenses. All of this resulted in a net loss of $177,500,000 in the second quarter compared to a $37,600,000 net loss in the prior year period. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:22:23Accounting for warrants can be confusing, so we have always pointed out the impact they have on our results. This Q2 loss includes a non cash loss of $39,600,000 for the second quarter related to the fair value of our warrant liabilities. This is a pure accounting artifact that is not representative of the operating performance of our business. These results also include growth in stock based compensation expense related to our headcount growth, which was $99,200,000 for the second quarter compared to $21,000,000 in the prior year period. This elevated stock based compensation expense was due primarily to incentives issued to newly acquired and hired employees. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:23:09Turning now to our balance sheet. Cash, cash equivalents and investments as of 06/30/2025 were $656,800,000 As we announced previously, in July, we raised $1,000,000,000 in an equity offering priced at a 25% premium above our closing price for the prior trading session. This investment to our knowledge is the largest investment by a single investor into quantum computing and networking and we are honored to be the recipient. The equity offering also included seven year warrants at $99.88 per share, a strong indication of confidence in INQ's longer term prospects. Our pro form a cash balance as of 07/09/2025 was $1,600,000,000 making IonQ the most well capitalized pure play quantum provider in the market today. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:24:08Continuing now to our financial outlook, we are increasing our revenue guidance for the full year 2025 to be between 82,000,000 and $100,000,000 and expect revenue for the third quarter to be between 25,000,000 and $29,000,000 Last quarter, we projected an adjusted EBITDA loss of $162,000,000 for the full year 2025. Pending the close of the Oxford Ionix acquisition, we anticipate that integration and our continued investments into accelerate our roadmap will result in an increase to our cost base for the year. We envision this will widen our adjusted EBITDA loss up to 30% or a total of $211,000,000 Now back to Uniqlo. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:24:56Our customer ecosystem now includes not only the winning quantum computing roadmap, but also the clear global leader in quantum networking. We in fact expect our unit economics advantage and the fully fault tolerant era to be one to two orders of magnitude lower than competitor efforts. INQ has commercialized considerably faster than startups who do not have our thirty year heritage. We were first to operate in all three of the Google, Amazon and Microsoft public clouds five years ago. Looking forward, we believe our unit economic advantages will underpin INQ's long term market share leadership. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:25:35INQ also intends to accelerate this investment in our application roadmap, which we outlined in our June 9 webinar. Given our unparalleled unit economics and scale, we have a clear opportunity in the coming years to profitably address long hypothesized quantum classics, such as the traveling salesperson problem, as well as Shor's algorithm. I'll now turn this over to the operator for Q and A. Operator00:26:04Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch tone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Operator00:26:41First question comes from Quinn Bolton with Needham and Co. Please go ahead. Quinn BoltonMD - Equity Research at Needham & Company00:26:47Hey, guys. Congratulations on all the progress again this quarter. I guess I wanted to start with the revenue that came in better than expected. That's great to see. You guys are diversifying the revenue stream now with the Quantum Key Distribution, Quantum Networking efforts. Quinn BoltonMD - Equity Research at Needham & Company00:27:03And I was wondering if you could give us some sense how much revenue are you starting to generate from the non quantum computing efforts in the business? And then I've got a follow-up. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:27:15So thank you for those words and a great question. We are continuing to deliver on our plans for the year and the beat on this quarter was primarily due to two projects for existing customers where we've been able to accelerate the pace of implementation. Quinn BoltonMD - Equity Research at Needham & Company00:27:36Were those mostly on the quantum computing side or could that include the Air Force Research Lab on quantum networking? Just some sense on the mix. Is it still predominantly quantum computing? Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:27:48It's an excellent question. But as we've said in previous quarters, many of these projects, in particular the AFRL one, contains both sides of the coin. It's quantum computing and networking. Quinn BoltonMD - Equity Research at Needham & Company00:28:02Got it. Got it. Second question is, you guys, I guess in June announced the acquisition of Oxford IONIQs, you were selected for the DARPA quantum benchmarking program back in early April. And I guess, as you guys have pivoted the roadmap now or accelerated the roadmap with Oxford IONIQs, can you just sort of address how are you feeling about progressing from stage A to stage B in QBI? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:28:32Yeah, no, I'm happy to take this. It's Niccolo. Well, look, the fantastic thing about the talent density and the technology that we've assembled at I and Q is that Akshay Onyx itself was also put into the DARPA QBI initiative earlier this year. So INQ is in a fantastic position overall. Both ourselves and our announced acquisition obviously are considered fantastic businesses in their own right. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:29:01On a combined basis, we think it's of course an even stronger offering. So I think it's safe to say that we continue to progress as two shots on goal, if you will, until the acquisition closes. But once it closes, we'll be progressing as a single unified roadmap that we think is extremely powerful when you think about not just how many logical qubits we're gonna have pretty soon, but also the unit economics involved. We feel very good about our prospects both in phase B and ultimately in phase C. Quinn BoltonMD - Equity Research at Needham & Company00:29:39Excellent. And maybe last, Nicola, just any update on the timing of the close on Oxford IONIQs? Could you just give us an update where you are on any regulatory approvals that you need? Do you still expect to close that transaction later in calendar twenty twenty five? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:29:55Yes, we absolutely do still expect it to close later. This is of course subject to regulatory approval in The UK. And that is proceeding constructively, but we are not able to give a precise date on this call, although I think it's safe to say that both Oxford and INQ of course look forward to a closing as soon as possible. Quinn BoltonMD - Equity Research at Needham & Company00:30:21Excellent, thank you. Operator00:30:27The next question comes from Troy Jensen from Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead. Troy JensenManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:30:34Hey, gentlemen. Congrats on on all the progress and and milestones here. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:30:39Thank you. Troy JensenManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:30:41Hey. So, Nicholas, maybe for you, first of all, 80,000 logical qubits by 2030. At that level, can you just talk about what type of encryption are you guys crashing or how advanced is the quantum computer at that point? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:30:58Yeah, I mean, Troy, I think we have the leading logical qubit roadmap bar none on a global basis. And I say that not only because of the sheer number of logical qubits, but also the cost of a machine of that size, which is very low compared to competitors you might run into, Troy, that probably will have machines that will cost 10 or 100 times more for a similar number of logical qubits. We published an application roadmap on June 9 at our webinar, and we showed you every year on our roadmap what we can do from an applications perspective. So we're showing you what we can do even at 1,500 large little qubits. We're showing what we can do at 10,000 large little qubits. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:31:46And we're showing you can do, of course, at 80,000. What I think I would highlight is these are just the known application areas that we've identified that we already are working on. As you've seen throughout the compute space, Troy, from CPUs to GPUs to now our QPUs, much of the upside and value comes from problems that you haven't thought of addressing yet. And it kind of emerges, if you will, as an emergent phenomenon as you start solving problems with ever more doubly exponentially powerful machines as INQ has. So I there's tremendous upside in the app roadmap from quantum AI and quantum machine learning in particular. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:32:28We've already made some industrial AI applications as far back as World Quantum Day on April, earlier this year. We're continuing to make progress with a number of partners, not just in the IA space, but of course in the drug discovery space. You saw announcements from us on protein folding, as well as, of course, with AstraZeneca. You've seen announcements with partners looking at the energy grid and optimizations there. And of course, we work closely with the Electric Power Board of Tennessee and Oak Ridge National Labs already. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:33:02So I think it's safe to say that we've got a commanding lead in solving useful applications today even on just 36 qubit systems. Imagine where we're gonna be in the next year, year and a half, two years as we move to two thirty six qubits and at some point soon 10,000 physical qubits in combination with our friends at Oxrionics. It unlocks a whole world, frankly, of value add for every industry category we're in already today. We think that you can start to do useful Shores algorithm work probably in the 2027 time horizon if you look at our roadmap. Low thousands of logical qubits starts to become interesting for us on the encryption cracking front. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:33:52The traveling sales person problem I believe is about 1,000 logical qubits as well. And so a lot of work in logistics optimizations will get unlocked in the next eighteen months or so. And obviously, think it's for Troy, our team is growing as quickly as we can find the talent. We recognize that it's a unique set of skills to be able to run quantum applications on our machines and then translate those for each of the verticals that have slightly different problems that we've gone after. But as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, it's a key investment area for us. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:34:28So we recognize that the path for growth for us goes right through our applications in all these different areas. Troy JensenManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:34:34Great answers. Thank you for that. Just like a follow-up and kind of a couple of things together here. Can you talk about just the acquisitions you've done, I think it's like six now, integrating all these businesses, I've seen companies struggle doing one or two acquisitions, you guys doing a lot at the same time here. You got a lot of money now on your balance sheet, thoughts on kind of more consolidation or you just address the topic, that'd be great. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:34:59Yeah, I mean, we have a couple of things. So I've made more than 50 acquisitions in my career as a public company leader across over a dozen public companies. And so I like to think we get better at these things over time. You heard from Frank Bacchus, who is actually on this call. Frank and I were very focused on cultural fit early on. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:35:21We're all professional managers of our firm. We both want to make the industrial logic work. It's the same with Oxbionics and Leitzink and our friends at Cubitech and Entangled Networks from earlier this year and last year. And what we're finding actually is one plus one doesn't just equal three, it equals 13 or 30. And there is mutual curiosity when we merge with new entities. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:35:47Everyone is aligned and of course taking stock in an enlarged I and Q. And so everyone's able to both work together to rally on our biggest revenue opportunities, but also to continue growing their business in its own right. So we're investing in the infrastructure we need to make sure integrations go well. We've got experience on it, whether it's IT through to the actual technical roadmaps, and of course, the soft side, if you will, of making sure that people have similar cultural definitions, understandings of success. But honestly, we don't lose any sleep about this because there is so much to gain together. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:36:28The teams are proactively excited and reaching out to one another and doing integration honestly on their own in a lot of ways. So yeah, mean, we will continue to monitor the landscape. We now have two big growth factors for our business, computing and networking. Networking, we're doing both on the ground, but also ground to space, space to space, and space to ground the most vulnerable pieces of our communications infrastructure. And I think we're finding that new opportunities are unlocking themselves, frankly, every week. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:37:00We have put together a unique asset in business here. No one else in the world can do networking on the ground in space and computing. And right now, sovereign nations in the friendly world want more of everything that INQ has to offer. And so we're supply limited, not demand limited, if that makes sense. Troy JensenManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:37:21Yeah, great. Alright guys, keep up the great work. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:37:25Thanks, Troy. Operator00:37:30The next question comes from Joe Moore with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Joseph MooreManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:37:36Great. Thank you. I wanted to ask about Chris Monroe coming back. I am getting kind of questions about it. It seems like it's great news. Joseph MooreManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:37:43He's obviously, you characterized his capabilities, but it caused some consternation when he left. Just maybe if you could address, is there anything to sort of read into the fact that he left and then came back now? Thank you. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:37:58I'd like to at Zicolo. I'd like to say that there's something to be read into all of the tremendous talent that's joined IQ in the past quarter. So whether it's Rick Mueller or Marco Pastoria, Chris Monroe, Paul Dacier, we've also added a long list actually of VPs to the business in the last quarter in areas from business development through to actually acquisition integrations. And so I think everyone is recognizing that As want to work with As and talent success helps attract yet more of it. I think Chris spending more time with us is a tremendous vote of confidence, not just in our computing roadmap but also our networking roadmap. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:38:40I think it speaks very highly of what he thinks about Chris Balance and Mihir Bhaskar as well. And I think you're seeing that you've got four world records, if you will, held by individuals who are all at IonQ, both on the Fidelity side as well as the networking side. And they want to continue pioneering the future together right here at IonQ. So we're excited to have everyone. We welcome ever more world class talent. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:39:09I think we've attracted some in the organization that haven't been announced today, but continue to join us from nation's finest laboratories. And on a global basis, we're always on the lookout for the very best, most experienced everywhere from networking to computing to applications. So I'd say, look, in summary, it is, I think, a vindication of our strategy. We're excited to have Chris here and we're excited to have everyone else that we've announced today all working together because we recognize that we're at the intersection of pioneering technology that has never done what we've done in the last decade or two. And the next five years, ten years, has even more to be built together. Joseph MooreManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:39:54Very helpful context, thank you. Operator00:39:59The next question comes from Richard Shannon with Craig Hallum. Please go ahead. Analyst00:40:06Hello, everybody. This is Tyler on for Richard Shannon. I was wondering, can LIGHT Sync be ran at room temperature for compute or sensing purposes? And if so, what is the plan for those? And I'll I'll let you go from there. I have a follow-up. Thank you. Dean KassmannSVP - Engineering & Technology at IonQ00:40:28This is Dean. So, the overall technology that LightSync has in their quantum memories does require cryogenic kind of mild cryogenic temperatures to be able to achieve. And so they're similar to the cryogenic enhanced vacuum systems that are used in other trapped ion systems. And so it's not super exotic, but it does require lower temperatures to be able to realize that quantum memory. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:41:06We're always developing the next generation of all of our hardware. As Dean put it, cryogenic we hope becomes milder and we hope the size also of these repeaters shrinks, and it should every generation also. Analyst00:41:24Yeah, and then just for you and everybody else, I do understand that diamond memories tend to be cryogenically cooled. I was just wondering if it wasn't cooled, would it be used for compute or sensing or if it always had to be? Okay. And then when you're considering the combination of Oxford IONIQs and IONQ, what is the plan with these two different processors? Are we keeping these separate or are we putting these together? Analyst00:41:53And then what are the goalposts for emergence? And if you can comment on Iceberg Quantum and how that relates to QBI? Dean KassmannSVP - Engineering & Technology at IonQ00:42:03So, Tyler, on the two different technology stacks, we are absolutely integrating them together. As we look at our integration plans moving forward, being able to what Niccolo indicated is putting more qubits on a chip as well as the technology for the quantum memory and doing photon capture on those chips to be able to network them together, that is absolutely coupled technology on the computing side as we kind of scale out. Those different pieces come in at different parts of our roadmap as we move out to thousands and millions of cubits, but, they're definitely intertwined as we move forward. Analyst00:42:46Okay, thank you. And I'll hop back in the queue for now. Operator00:42:52Thank you. The next question comes from David Williams with Benchmark. Please go ahead. David WilliamsEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:42:58Hey, good afternoon, everyone, and congrats on all the really great progress. And I guess maybe first, Niccolo, can you kind of run through just kind of given how much progress you've had, all the exciting things that's going on at IonQ, is there a way you'd kind of rank order what gets you most energized and maybe where you're most excited? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:43:20There's so much goodness going on in the last six months. I don't actually think of it that way. I think that we're in the business of Quantum in every sense. And quantum for us is both on the compute side and the networking side. And we care about having the leading technical roadmap on both sides of the house. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:43:39We also care about being the leading commercialization player or partner, if you will, on both sides of the house. And we believe that the interconnection of the two provides a moat that is very difficult to counteract this amount if you are a competitor of ours. The fact that we can build the world's best quantum networks, quantum computers, and we can build the repeaters, and we can maintain information security as it's transmitted between quantum computers gives us a phenomenal range of solutions to sell to nations and Fortune 100 companies. If you look at the acquisitions we made and the talent we've attracted, you can see that we are investing on both sides of the house to do exactly what I said. We wanna make sure we always have the leading technical roadmap, the best unit economics, and to make sure we continue to win market share. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:44:33And we'll continue to invest to achieve all three or four of those objectives. I've been delighted with every acquisition that we've consummated since I assumed this position. And I've been really delighted with the acceleration in global technical talent and talent in general that we've been able to attract. And we're just getting started here. I've been in this role for six, seven months on a full time basis. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:44:59And so I think it bodes very well for the future. We want to carry on doing what we've done in the last two or three quarters, in the next two or three quarters, in the next twenty or thirty quarters. The reality is I think people tend to underestimate how much progress we're making on a monthly, quarterly, and annual basis. They tend to underestimate the progress that quantum computing at INQ is making because of the double exponential nature of improvements in every generation. And they underestimate the need for quantum networking because of the threats, if you will, from not just bad state actors in a classical sense, but because there are bad state actors that are working on so called Q Day and cracking RSA 02/1948. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:45:47And so both sides of our business, on the ground and up in space, are poised, I think, to have inflection points in the coming quarters and years. David WilliamsEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:46:00Great, fantastic color there. And then maybe just for you, Thomas, given these acquisitions, how should we think about the OpEx trends and maybe the breakeven point there? Is there potential maybe to accelerate the path to profitability maybe faster than what you thought previously just kind of given the different revenue bases and opportunities you have in front of you? Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:46:22I think that our primary objective is to accelerate the roadmap and also to find and delight customers because this is a giant space. And whoever gets there first, and we are the leading contender, will reap huge rewards. Obviously, we'll take great care when we decide what to spend on. But right now, we've been able to contract our roadmap so much that this will save us a lot of money in the long term. David WilliamsEquity Research Analyst at The Benchmark Company LLC00:46:56Thanks so much and best of luck on the quarter. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:46:59Yeah, look, I'd add to that. I think Thomas is spot on, right? When you look at competitor announcements that have come out subsequent to our June 9 webinar, You've seen big companies putting out announcements about being five years behind us. And I think they're the closer competitors, honestly, in the quantum computing space. It is a commanding lead that we have been able to build in the last six or seven months. Operator00:47:33The next question is from the line of Kevin Garringen with Rosenblatt Securities. Please go ahead. Kevin GarriganSenior Research Analyst at Rosenblatt Securities00:47:41Yeah. Hi, all. Let me echo my congrats on on all the progress. Hey. Going off of Troy's acquisition question, any other areas of the business you can point out where you might still be missing a piece of the puzzle? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:47:54Well, look, I always like to jokingly say that although I'm a physicist, never finished a PhD. And so our superpower here is, I'm not trying to defend Dissertation at any point of the week, I'm happy to defend the Ph. D. Dissertations of our fantastic engineering leadership and physicists that we've both hired and acquired. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:48:15And so we're in the early ages and era, if you will, of the quantum revolution, which is the biggest revolution in computing and networking, I think, since computing and networking got going, frankly, eighty years ago. And so as we become a bigger business, as Thomas pointed out, where we see opportunities to bring roadmaps in and move things to the left effectively on roadmaps, we'll always look at that. We have a fully fledged vision, obviously, for the quantum internet that we talked about in the last couple of calls. And the quantum internet someday will be not only quantum sensors that are capturing information, but quantum computers that are processing that information, performing calculations, and quantum networks that allow you to transmit that information and keep it safe throughout the whole system. And so that overall vision is a north star, if you will, for us. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:49:06And we intend to be the leader in the quantum internet and all of its components as that plays out. And as there's an acceleration in spend, not just from governments but from Fortune 100 and Fortune 1,000 companies ultimately. Kevin GarriganSenior Research Analyst at Rosenblatt Securities00:49:22Okay, I appreciate that color. And then as a follow-up, I'm still getting a lot of investor questions regarding the intersection of quantum and AI. So wondering if you can give some details on the collaboration with AIST that is focusing on real world quantum AI applications and what some of those applications are? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:49:43Well, me talk more generally than just on AIST. So if you think about what we announced back in April at World Quantum Day, we showed real world industrial AI examples in categories like reducing defects in steel, and of course training generative adversarial networks to learn faster. And we're continuing to see great progress there. You can actually look at most of our application successes this year through the lens of machine learning. Whether you want to call that AI or brand that AI, it depends both up to you and on the specific application. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:50:23But I would argue that when you have 20x speed ups in computational drug design with NVIDIA, AWS, AstraZeneca, you're very much demonstrating machine learning and AI through our quantum systems. The pieces of problems that we're able to take down today and deliver quantum advantage on continue to expand. They are still pieces of problems and workflows as opposed to a one stop shop for a workflow from soup to nuts from start to finish. And so you can see that we're collaborating with hyperscalers and the world's biggest GPU makers because we realized that together we can deliver the one stop shop soup to nuts solution for companies in many verticals. And I think you'll continue to see that, frankly. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:51:14So you'll see us partnering with industry expertise. You'll see us partnering with GPU and cloud leaders. And you're also going to see us expand the lens of sub sectors that we were going to work in from logistics to pharma into areas like financial services. We hired Marco Vistoya, who we're honored as working with us, not only because he's generated a lot of IP himself, but also because, of course, he knows more about the financial services industry in quantum computing and quantum networking than probably anybody on the planet. And the great thing about financial services is that ultimately you don't need a lot of infrastructure to address really valuable problems really quickly. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:52:02I talked back at the IPO about financial services and the fact that there's whole chunks of it that had been postulated for a decade or two to be perfect for quantum computers. We are now at the point whereby our quantum computers are big enough to start delivering that quantum advantage at scale and at speed, frankly. And so we are investing across the verticals that you've seen in our investor deck, we've tried it on prior calls, but we continue to look for new verticals. And the delightful thing about our quantum computers is we're finding they can deliver better answers earlier every time we approach a new vertical than was previously forecast. And that will continue to be a trend here. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:52:43Think early achievements, early signal detection, if you will, in every area, I think, is going to be a hallmark of what you see in the coming quarters from us. Kevin GarriganSenior Research Analyst at Rosenblatt Securities00:52:54Got it. That makes sense. Okay, great. I appreciate it. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:52:58Thanks, Kevin. Thomas KramerCFO at IonQ00:52:59Thank you. Operator00:53:02Thank you. The next question is from the line of Richard Shannon from Craig Hallum. Please go ahead. Richard ShannonSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:53:19Hi, guys. Thank you for taking my follow-up. So how many QPU deployments are there between IONQ and Oxford IONIQs worldwide? And considering you're securing data in flight, is there any plan to secure stationary data as well? Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:53:40Yeah, I think the short answer is we have sold all the systems that we've ever made at INQ and we continue to do that. Oxford, I think, has sold a system that has been publicly disclosed. I think it's safe to say that there's incredible demand for our two fifty six qubit system that's around the corner and our 10,000 qubit systems on a combined basis. The quantum networking question you're asking about securing data on the ground, absolutely. I'll turn this over to my colleague Jordan, but we're obviously selling entangled quantum networking solutions and QGate solutions every day, and we've announced a number of the larger ones. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:54:27But our businesses have already got quantum networks deployed in places like Tennessee and Korea. And we continue to see incredible demand from household name financial services and telecoms organizations that recognize that, as I jokingly like to put it, our quantum networking solution customers are the ones that are not in the news for data breaches. And so I think as people recognize that increasingly, we'll see the demand and market penetration skyrocket, honestly. And as soon as there is a whiff of a bad state actor, if you will, making any progress whatsoever on RSA 2048 cracking, I think you're gonna see orders of magnitude step changes in networking demand. Jordan ShapiroPresident & General Manager - Quantum networking at IonQ00:55:13That's right. That's data in transit, not data at rest, but that's where QKD offers a massively powerful advantage for our customers in defending. It's a particularly weak point in their security architectures today and one that we can help them shore up. Richard ShannonSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:55:32Awesome. Thank you, guys. And then with the combined companies between Oxford IONIQ and IONQ, is there a way to run all of these gates in parallel, and and how many of these could you do? Could you effectively run the whole system in parallel using the electrical control, and what does that effectively do to your gate speed? And then also I just wanna say, I'll get off after this, but congratulations on the roadmap with the logical cubic counts. That's definitely the first I've seen. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:56:07Awesome. Well, thank you. I'm gonna turn this over to Dean, but I think news is the short answer is gate speeds are going up considerably as part of this roadmap and acquisition and merger. But Dean, over to you on electrical control. Dean KassmannSVP - Engineering & Technology at IonQ00:56:20Yeah, thanks, Tyler. So overall, the electronic gate control and the overall move from the 1D architecture to the two d and just inherent way those electronic gates work allows for just a massive, I would say, increase in parallelism that can occur as you execute two qubit gates. And so you can expect overall throughput to really go through a step change as you go and introduce high density kind of two qubit electronic gate control. And this is coupled with what Nicola was saying is that it's also just inherently faster from a gate speed perspective. And so when you're working with the qubits in those qubit based traps, they're just simply faster. Dean KassmannSVP - Engineering & Technology at IonQ00:57:12And so those two coupled together represent just a massive, I would say, overall throughput increase that really just drives also the unit economics that Nicola was also mentioning before. Richard ShannonSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC00:57:31Got it. Thank you, guys. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:57:33Thanks Tyler. Dean KassmannSVP - Engineering & Technology at IonQ00:57:34Thank you. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:57:36All right. Well, I'm going to wrap up by saying that we're pleased to have announced another quarter of progress here at I and Q. Just to recap a couple of our highlights. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:57:45Firstly, we closed our quantum networking acquisitions of LightSync and Capella, and announced a pending acquisition of Oxford Ionics, which accelerates our expected compute roadmap. We will achieve 800 logical qubits in 2027, 80,000 logical qubits in 02/1930, and I expect hundreds of thousands, if not millions of logical qubits beyond that. Secondly, we're attracting and hiring world class talent from all walks of expertise, which we believe is the greatest indicator of long term success that we can provide. Thirdly, we raised $1,000,000,000 in additional capital to enable INQ to maintain its decisive lead as a full stack quantum computing and quantum networking company. Fourth, we expanded our global footprint with key government and commercial partnerships, including MOUs with Japan's AIST, GQAAT, and South Korea's KISTI, and a world first partnership with AstraZeneca, AWS, and NVIDIA, delivering a 20x drug development speed up. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:58:42We're investing to proliferate our satellite constellation with a roadmap to quantum networking and computing in space. And last but not least, we beat the high end of revenue guidance for Q2 by 15%. We believe the steps we have taken in 2025 to date will ultimately set the stage for INQ's long term leadership in both quantum computing and networking, both of which we believe to be crucially important to the future of our country's national security and national economic security. With our closed and proposed acquisitions and well fortified balance sheet, we believe we have a clear path to millions and eventually tens of millions of qubits, leading to computing power previously unimaginable from a classical standpoint. Join us now and be the first to gain commercial advantage in your industry by leveraging the massive power of our quantum networks and computers. Niccolo de MasiCEO & Chairman at IonQ00:59:33Thank you all for your time today, and have a great week. Operator00:59:39Thank you. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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