NCR Voyix Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Recurring revenue grew 4% to $422 million, representing 63% of total revenue, while software ARR increased 7% year over year.
  • Positive Sentiment: Adjusted EBITDA rose 20% to $95 million and margin expanded 340 basis points to 14.3% driven by cost actions.
  • Positive Sentiment: Platform sites connected to the Voyage Commerce Platform reached 78,000 (up 16% YoY) and payment sites climbed 3% to 8,400.
  • Negative Sentiment: Total revenue declined 8% to $666 million amid continued softness in hardware sales.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Company reaffirmed full‐year guidance with revenue of $2.575–2.650 billion, adjusted EBITDA of $420–445 million, and free cash flow of $170–190 million.
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NCR Voyix Q2 2025
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Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the NCR Voyage Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. At this time, participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the call over to your host, Sarah Jane Schneider, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Sarah Jane Schneider
Sarah Jane Schneider
VP - IR at NCR Voyix

Good morning, and thank you for joining our second quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. This morning, we issued our earnings release reporting financials for the quarter ended 06/30/2025. A copy of the earnings release and the presentation that we will reference during this call are available on the Investor Relations section of our website, which can be found at www.ncrvoix.com and have been filed with the SEC. With me on the call today are Jim Kelly, our Chief Executive Officer Brian Webb Walsh, our Chief Financial Officer Benny Chidele, President, Restaurants Darren Wilson, President, Retail and Nick East, our Chief Product Officer. This call is being recorded and the webcast is available on the Investor Relations section of our website.

Sarah Jane Schneider
Sarah Jane Schneider
VP - IR at NCR Voyix

Before we begin, please be advised that remarks today will contain forward looking statements. These forward looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward looking statements. For additional information on these factors, please refer to our earnings release and our other reports filed with the SEC. We caution you not to place undue reliance on these statements. Forward looking statements during this call speak only as of the date of this call, and we undertake no obligation to update them.

Sarah Jane Schneider
Sarah Jane Schneider
VP - IR at NCR Voyix

In addition, we will be discussing or providing certain non GAAP financial measures today, which we believe will provide additional clarity regarding our ongoing performance. For a full reconciliation of the non GAAP financial measures discussed in this call to the most comparable GAAP measure in accordance with SEC regulations, please see our press release furnished as an exhibit to our Form eight ks filed this morning and our supplemental materials available on the Investor Relations section of our website. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Jim. Jim?

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Thanks, Sarah Jane, and good morning, everyone. I would like to welcome you all to our second quarter earnings call. I will begin with a summary of our recent performance. This quarter, we continued to execute on our key initiatives, winning new customers in both our restaurant and retail segments, signing existing customers to the Voigt's commerce platform, and getting additional interest in our latest cloud products and payment capabilities. I remain encouraged by the progress we are making and our ability to improve future performance.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

We will be launching additional VCP capabilities beginning in the fourth quarter and continuing into next year. In retail, we will be launching our enterprise grocery and convenience point of sale, self checkout and fuel at the NRF show in January. In restaurants, we'll be launching a new all in one application for labor, inventory, reporting and scheduling in the fourth quarter and our new centralized menu management solution in early twenty twenty six. For payments, we completed our pilot for Voyage Pay in The U. S.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

In July and are on track to complete the migration of our existing SME portfolio and sign new customers directly to the processing platform by mid September. We are already in active discussions with our existing mid market enterprise customers to offer acquiring solutions not available on our legacy JetPay platform. We're also enabling acquiring in The UK, Canada and Latin America as Global Payments acquisition of Worldpay provides us an even broader array of end market capabilities. Based on contract renewal dates, we have initiated conversations with about 10% of customers thus far regarding our expanded services offering, including payments. Going forward, all new software contracts will be presented with our payment capabilities as the two industries have become increasingly intertwined.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

This will reduce vendor management complexity and potential store downtime, while enhancing revenue opportunities for the company. Turning to hardware, we continue to progress on the implementation of our ODM agreement, which will commence by year end. Our pilot for our European markets is already underway and has met expectations thus far. At our Nashville facility, we are in the testing phase and expect the pilot for The Americas and Asia Pacific to begin next month. Since our call in May, there have been no material changes to the tariff related cost to our business, which we continue to estimate to be between $8,000,000 and $12,000,000 for the year.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Given the ever evolving tariff situation, we are monitoring the potential impact to our business and will reassess our mitigation strategy to the extent circumstances change. In the six months that I've been in my role at the company, I've had the pleasure of meeting with more than 50 of our customers, gaining insights into our past performance and an understanding of their technology roadmaps. We seem well aligned on both fronts and our customers are eager to transform their guest and staff experiences leveraging the VCP. Nick, Benny, and Darren will now provide examples of our early success in implementing this go forward strategy. I'll now turn the call over to Nick to discuss our product updates. Nick?

Nick East
Nick East
EVP & Chief Product Officer at NCR Voyix

Thanks, Jim. Good morning, everyone. At the end of the quarter, we had nearly 78,000 sites connected to the Boyd's Commerce platform, an increase of 16% year over year. As a reminder, the VCP was originally developed to connect legacy applications to the cloud, and going forward, we will leverage its cloud architecture and edge microservices to deliver our VoIP point of sale and VoIP self checkout. We continue to execute on our platform and related product initiatives, including the developments and rollouts of our cloud solutions, the continuous innovation of our microservices architecture and edge services, and the connection of our legacy customers to the VCP. I'd like to discuss four key examples that illustrate this progress and the positive outcomes it is driving for our customers and our business. The first is consumer transaction volume flowing through the VCP.

Nick East
Nick East
EVP & Chief Product Officer at NCR Voyix

In the 2025, volumes were more than 50% higher than the prior year, and the VCP processed more than 500,000,000 transaction API calls in June alone. This growth was driven by the increase in platform connected customers who benefit from greater real time visibility into end user purchasing behavior and the integration of these data flows into their business processes. The second is the number of consumer orders running through the VCP. This increased nearly 60% in the first half of twenty twenty five compared to the prior year, with over 75,000,000 orders processed this June, underlying the platform's performance, scalability and stability. The third highly innovative example is our existing customers' rapid adoption of Picklist Assist, our AI enabled computer vision capability for self checkout.

Nick East
Nick East
EVP & Chief Product Officer at NCR Voyix

Available through the VCP, Picklist Assist utilizes computer vision via cameras already built into most of our grocery self checkout scanners to identify and present a short list of most likely items based on color, weight, and other characteristics. This proprietary software technology can be used with both our legacy and cloud based checkouts to improve speed, accuracy and efficiency, enhancing outcomes for both retailers and their end customers. We've already implemented Picklist Assist across more than 22,000 checkout lanes worldwide and continue to see strong market interest in this feature. The fourth is the increasing adoption of our Edge virtualization solution that enables our customers to operate their stores with the speed and efficiencies of running their digital channels. This year, we have continued to implement Edge for major retailers to improve store outcomes.

Nick East
Nick East
EVP & Chief Product Officer at NCR Voyix

For example, during the quarter, one of our large Edge customers in Europe was able to address a business requirement to trial a new kiosk with a new hardware device and implement a working solution in less than two weeks. Edge not only significantly improved the speed to market of such an application by months, but also enable them to bypass a lengthy certification process. Each of these examples, like our other VCP solutions, contributes towards software ARR growth from our platform sites and are normally packaged as an add on to a point of sale or self checkout subscription. One of the biggest shifts we see in the market is the desire for enterprise brands to transform their stores to create modern experiences for shoppers and modern ease of IT teams that mirror their digital channels. Cloud native technologies leveraging microservices, whilst common in digital commerce, are less so in brick and mortar stores.

Nick East
Nick East
EVP & Chief Product Officer at NCR Voyix

We have been investing in this type of software architecture for five years, and it is quickly becoming a compelling competitive advantage. With that, I will turn the call over to Benny to discuss our restaurants performance. Benny?

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

Thanks, Nick. In the second quarter, our restaurant business signed more than 200 new software and services customers. Our platform and payment sites increased 41% respectively. Software ARR increased 4% and total ARR increased 3% in the quarter. NCR Voyage has long been a trusted partner for enterprise restaurants, and we continue to deepen our relationships and expand our product and services offering in the space.

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

This year, we've made significant progress on our sales transformation efforts, including hiring Miguel Salares as the Senior Vice President and Chief Revenue Officer and other key sales leaders. We are already seeing meaningful improvements in our customer satisfaction, global expansion and sales pipeline. This quarter, we expanded our long standing services relationship with a large global coffee chain to provide enhanced drive thru support for their stores in The U. S. And Canada.

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

This follows our recent international expansion with this customer as discussed on our Q3 call in November, and we expect to continue to broaden our services contract with them over time. We also completed the services rollout for the large global fast food chain in The UK we announced on our February call, which will deliver strong recurring revenue for our business in the second half of the year. This is an example of the strength of our services division and its ability to support global brands with consistent high quality solutions across geographies. We are continuing to expand our enterprise restaurant offering internationally, leveraging our existing global retail operations. Given Latin America's high software adoption at the point of sale, this region will be a focus as we drive the adoption of Aloha outside The U.

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

S. Our retail business today has strong market share in Mexico, Chile, Peru and Argentina, and we are positioned to build a similar presence with restaurants over time. In addition to our enterprise expansion efforts, we're also enhancing our commitment to small and mid market restaurants through direct and third party relationships. Mid market brands are increasingly looking for a scalable all in one platform. NCR VOIX delivers a true store in a box experience, combining point of sale, payments and operational tools to simplify technology for franchisees and accelerate same store growth.

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

Our world to world services are especially resonating with operators who want enterprise grade capabilities tailored to emerging brands. For example, we recently renewed agreements with several mid market restaurants in the Southeast, as they continue to leverage our extensive service capabilities to grow and scale their businesses. I will now turn the call over to Darren to discuss our retail performance. Darren?

Darren Wilson
Darren Wilson
EVP & President - Retail & Payments at NCR Voyix

Thanks, Benny. Good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, our retail business signed nearly 50 software and service customers. Our platform and payment sites increased 2513% respectively. Software ARR increased 9% and total ARR increased 6% in the quarter.

Darren Wilson
Darren Wilson
EVP & President - Retail & Payments at NCR Voyix

As previously mentioned, this quarter we continued to introduce our VCP applications to new and existing customers. For example, in Japan, we signed contracts with a national grocery chain and a large drugstore chain for both Voyage point of sale and self checkout, displacing two separate competitors with our leading solutions. In The UK, we signed a five year Voyage point of sale and self checkout agreement with one of the fastest growing supermarket chains in the market and a long standing customer of NCR Voyage. In addition to point of sale and self checkout, we will also provide hosting and loyalty solutions for their 1,000 store footprint. Further, this is a third market leading grocer in The UK to adopt our latest solutions.

Darren Wilson
Darren Wilson
EVP & President - Retail & Payments at NCR Voyix

We have now signed agreements with more than 10 grocery, fuel and convenience customers across North America, Europe and Japan to implement Voyage point of sale and self checkout and other cloud based solutions across entire store estates through the end of next year. In services, we signed a new multi year agreement with one of the largest discount department store chains to install back office and point of sale hardware across nearly 4,000 sites in The U. S. And Canada. We will look to expand our relationship with this customer over time.

Darren Wilson
Darren Wilson
EVP & President - Retail & Payments at NCR Voyix

Lastly, in our government business, we recently signed an expanded agreement with a large long standing customer to provide more than 14,000 of sale terminals across their retail footprint. With that, I will turn the call over to Brian. Brian?

Brian Webb-Walsh
Brian Webb-Walsh
EVP & CFO at NCR Voyix

Thank you, Darren, and good morning, everyone. For the quarter, we delivered revenue and adjusted EBITDA in line with expectations. Total revenue of $666,000,000 declined 8% due to continued softness in hardware sales. Recurring revenue increased 4% to $422,000,000 and as a percent of total revenue improved over 700 basis points to 63%. Software ARR and total segment ARR increased seven percent and five percent respectively.

Brian Webb-Walsh
Brian Webb-Walsh
EVP & CFO at NCR Voyix

Platform sites increased 16% to 78,000 sites and payment sites increased 3% to 8,400 sites. Adjusted EBITDA of $95,000,000 increased 20% in the second quarter as margin expanded three forty basis points to 14.3. This was largely driven by our previously discussed cost actions. Let's turn to our segment results. Beginning with Restaurants, recurring revenue increased 4% to $143,000,000 and total segment revenue increased 2% to $2.00 $5,000,000 due to an increase in payments and recurring services revenue.

Brian Webb-Walsh
Brian Webb-Walsh
EVP & CFO at NCR Voyix

Segment adjusted EBITDA increased 10% to $68,000,000 as margin expanded two forty basis points to 33.2%. This improvement was driven by our efficiency initiatives and our software and services sales mix. Turning to Retail. Recurring revenue increased 5% to $277,000,000 driven primarily by the ramp of a new large customer agreement and platform revenue growth. Total segment revenue declined 12% to $454,000,000 due to the previously mentioned decline in hardware sales.

Brian Webb-Walsh
Brian Webb-Walsh
EVP & CFO at NCR Voyix

Segment adjusted EBITDA decreased 7% to $81,000,000 primarily due to the declines in hardware revenue, but absolute EBITDA improved sequentially from the first quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margin of 17.8% expanded 100 basis points year over year. Lastly, corporate and other expenses decreased 23% to $54,000,000 which reflects the previously discussed cost initiatives. Adjusted free cash flow was $37,000,000 for the quarter before considering $24,000,000 of restructuring cash expenditures, $284,000,000 of cash taxes related to the sale of digital banking and 5,000,000 of accelerated product investments. We invested $42,000,000 in capital expenditures during the quarter and $81,000,000 for the 2025, over 80% of CapEx was related to software investments.

Brian Webb-Walsh
Brian Webb-Walsh
EVP & CFO at NCR Voyix

Our net leverage position was 1.9 times at the end of the second quarter based on our net debt as of June 30 and the midpoint of our full year adjusted EBITDA outlook. Turning to our outlook, we continue to expect revenue to range from $2,575,000,000 to $2,650,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA to range from $420,000,000 to $445,000,000 Non GAAP diluted EPS is expected to be between $0.75 and $0.80 and adjusted free cash flow is expected to be between $170,000,000 and $190,000,000 With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jim for closing remarks. Jim?

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

In closing, I'm pleased with the commitment and progress the team has demonstrated in the first half of the year. More importantly, with the benefit of being in my new role for almost six months, I'm increasingly convinced that NCR Voyage can advance the foundational strengths I've outlined on my first call in February. Our competitive positioning remains strong, and this is despite some past deficiencies in consistently demonstrating urgency and execution to some of our valued customers. I believe our collective efforts over the past six months are beginning to change perception in a positive way, which is reflected in our recent success in the market and our improving ARR performance. I'm encouraged by the cultural shift together with our ongoing product innovation efforts, increased focus on our global service offering, enhanced payment strategy and our ability to continue these efforts to deliver value for our customers and our shareholders.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

I'll now turn the call over to the operator to begin the question and answer section. Operator?

Operator

Thank Our first question comes from the line of Dan Perlin with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Dan Perlin
Dan Perlin
Financial Technology Analyst at RBC Capital Markets

Thanks. Good morning. Jim, I just wanted to talk about maybe the demand environment across both retail and restaurant. Are there any noticeable kind of differences or willingness to kind of invest in the current backdrop? I mean, you're winning a lot of clients.

Dan Perlin
Dan Perlin
Financial Technology Analyst at RBC Capital Markets

So, there's a demonstration of value there. But I'm just wondering, you're doing this in what seems to be a difficult environment. And I'm just wondering if that could actually improve to the extent that there's some pushback from clients today. Thank you.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Good morning. Thanks, Dan. I would say we have not seen any pullback from customers. As I mentioned in my prepared comments, I've met with now over 50 of our larger customers, and most of them are very focused. I think we already have 13 or so that have committed to our next gen solution, WixPause and self checkout.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

So I don't see necessarily a slowdown in terms of what they're looking to do to modernize their infrastructure. When you listen to the comments that Nick made around the investments and the benefits from Edge and our other applications that they're now having a chance to see in our labs. And so my impression is that the market, is strong for us. Our customers have been on applications that date back, fifteen and twenty years or so. So I think they're all very interested in moving rapidly to enhance their business for all the reasons that we've outlined in the past. But maybe, Darren, you wanna add anything to it?

Darren Wilson
Darren Wilson
EVP & President - Retail & Payments at NCR Voyix

Yeah, sure. Hi, Dan. On the retail side, as I had in my prepared remarks, we signed nearly 50 customers. We saw a good spread of demand across kind of the four key tenants of the retail proposition being hardware, software, services and payments. So it's a good spread across the product portfolio.

Darren Wilson
Darren Wilson
EVP & President - Retail & Payments at NCR Voyix

We're encouraged by the consistent demand from customers engagement with customers and take up of proposition. So I'll hand over to Benny on the restaurant side.

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

Yes. Similar comments on the restaurant side as well. As you saw in prepared remarks some of the growth that we're seeing is very encouraging. And then to your point given the market pressure in fact customers are looking on how do I improve customer experience. So that's important getting customers back into the restaurants.

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

So any technology that helps around that which is one of our key value propositions. And the other one is also driving costs down to improve their employees engagement as well, which is again our value proposition. So in fact as a result of some of the economic conditions, we are seeing uptick of interest.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Yeah. Dan, I would one last point to this. Where the company has historically supported its existing customer base dating back to the acquisitions of the software applications they bought, what we're focusing the sales organization on is is expanding into new logos, new relationships, and some of what Darren mentioned earlier represent new logos, not where Benny would see it more often in the SME space. We're starting to see it because of the applications that we have in the market. Mentioned in, I guess it was the first earnings call that I was on, which was year end call, that we're moving away from selling the legacy applications in favor of our next gen VOYX PAUSE and VOYX Self Checkout.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

So we're seeing it not just with the existing base interested in upgrading, but we're definitely seeing, new entrants to the base.

Dan Perlin
Dan Perlin
Financial Technology Analyst at RBC Capital Markets

That's great. That's great color. Just a quick follow-up on free cash flow, clearly better in the current quarter than what we saw in first quarter. Still there's a pretty material ramp that's required to get you to the 170 to 190 guidance. Also understanding your second half trends tend to be more strong for free cash flow.

Dan Perlin
Dan Perlin
Financial Technology Analyst at RBC Capital Markets

But I'm just wondering, are there any kind of key components that we should be mindful of and then kind of level of visibility that you have going into the second half on the free cash flow side? Thank you.

Brian Webb-Walsh
Brian Webb-Walsh
EVP & CFO at NCR Voyix

Thanks, Dan. So what I would say is Q2 was in line with our expectations on free cash flow. And to your point, we tend to generate our free cash flow in the second half. And EBITDA is expected absolute EBITDA and EBITDA margins are expected to ramp as we go through the second half based on our cost work and ramping revenue from last year. So that and the normal seasonality is weighting free cash flow more to the second half.

Brian Webb-Walsh
Brian Webb-Walsh
EVP & CFO at NCR Voyix

I would point out that CapEx, we expect that to continue at the Q2 rate. So we'll probably be closer to about 170,000,000 of CapEx versus the original $150,000,000 But we have good visibility and we're comfortable with our guidance range.

Dan Perlin
Dan Perlin
Financial Technology Analyst at RBC Capital Markets

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ian Zaffino with Oppenheimer and Company. Please proceed with your question.

Isaac Sellhausen
Director - Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

Hey, good morning. This is Isaac Salazan on for Ian. Thanks very much for taking the question. Just had one on restaurants EBITDA margin. You help us better understand what drove the strength in the quarter?

Isaac Sellhausen
Director - Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

It sounds like that's primarily on the growth of software and power mix as well as some cost initiatives. Maybe just any kind of color you can give on that and then expectations for segment margins as you progress through the year? Thank you.

Brian Webb-Walsh
Brian Webb-Walsh
EVP & CFO at NCR Voyix

Yes. So I'd say good software and services growth and recurring revenue growth in restaurants is helping margin, payments growth, software platform growth. Restaurants has had a good consistent margin this year, last year and we expect that to continue. We see restaurants finishing the year about 32%, which implies pretty consistent from what we saw in the first half. On the retail side, we expect improvement in margin in the second half from what we saw in the first half.

Brian Webb-Walsh
Brian Webb-Walsh
EVP & CFO at NCR Voyix

That's where we've had hardware margin pressure that did improve quarter over quarter Q1 to Q2 and we expect to see that continued improvement as we get in the second half with revenue ramping and our cost actions that we're taking. And retail should be at about 18% to 19% for the full year.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

I would amplify on the payment side. Clearly, the restaurant organization, which has been involved with payments for the last I don't know, four or five years whenever JetPay was initially acquired. Now with, the WorldPay point of sale excuse me, processing capability, we'll be able to sell point of sale on the retail side. So we would expect going into next year, increasing lift, there as well on a margin basis from payments.

Isaac Sellhausen
Director - Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

Okay. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then just as a quick follow-up on the tariff exposure. I believe the 8,000,000 to $12,000,000 range is the same as last quarter.

Isaac Sellhausen
Director - Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

So maybe any additional details you can provide on any kind of mitigating actions that you're taking either through pricing or this sort of side and maybe how conversations have gone with suppliers? Thanks.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Well, we checked the news this morning. Unlike last time, when a tweet came out that we were unaware of, look, it's obviously a rapidly moving landscape. I think I counted something like 25 or so tweets that came out relative to tariffs. I read the articles this morning. You know, there's more news out there.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

For now, we feel comfortable in the range that we just outlined. But I also mentioned, in my prepared comments, initially, when this started, my initial my expectation was this was somewhat transitory. It was not going to persist, but just watching the news, reading what's out there, sense is this is not going to end sometime soon. So, I think we're going to have a different conversation in the back half of the year with our customers that either buy our services or buy hardware from us directly, because at some point this is going to be if this is permanent, then it's going to need to be more of a shared expense as opposed to our expense.

Isaac Sellhausen
Director - Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

Okay. Understood. Thank you.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Yep.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Will Nance with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Will Nance
Will Nance
Vice President at Goldman Sachs

You mentioned in response to a prior question some of the cost savings initiatives in the back half of the year. I was wondering if you could update us on the various initiatives that you have planned in place for this year and anything into next year and just kind of remind us where we are in each of those processes? Thank you.

Brian Webb-Walsh
Brian Webb-Walsh
EVP & CFO at NCR Voyix

Sure, Will. So if I think about our cost program for this year, we sized it at $100,000,000 two thirds is around vendor spend, one third around our own labor. And those debt program is largely executed or being executed. About 40% of the savings hit in the first half and about 60% will hit in the second half. And then we're starting to plan for next year and it's a little premature to talk about next year, but we'll talk about that in the next quarter or two.

Will Nance
Will Nance
Vice President at Goldman Sachs

Got it. Appreciate that. And then I was wondering if you could talk about the Buffalo Wild Wings renewal. Was that a competitive process? How did the RFP go if so?

Will Nance
Will Nance
Vice President at Goldman Sachs

And what do you think was kind of the tipping point get to renewal on that contract specifically? Thank you.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Yeah. I'm gonna have Betty do that, but, I mean, we'll be somewhat limited on specifics. You know, we don't generally comment specifically on a customer per se, but I think we can give you some color on this.

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

Yes. I think I would highlight three things that's also showing up in all of our business today. I think three things happened. One is the transformation of the team, the sales team and the leadership that we've brought in has improved our relationship, how we show up, how we engage. Yes, that was an RFP engagement.

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

The second thing is our investment in our product. We've talked about some of solutions and capabilities that we've brought on and we continue to bring. So this is not just about what we brought on over the past twelve months, but it's also how we're investing in our strategy for the next twenty four months, key capabilities that they are looking to leverage. And then the third thing is, I would say this is a very deep relationship, very similar to most of the relationship we have across the base. And that means it's not just one facet, it's multifaceted.

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

So, wouldn't attribute it to just one thing, but all these multi year relationships that we have continue to drive the momentum.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Yeah. I'm going to add some color to it as well. I'm not directly involved with this although I have a relationship with the company. If you look at what NCR has gone through over the last several years between the split, the divestitures that we did last year, and there's a lot of, change that has gone in on in the in the company. And as a before the split, this was a very large organization with a lot of moving parts and a lot of mouths to feed.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Today, we are singly focused on software, and I think that has resonated last year and in particular in the last six months with customers. As I said, I've seen 50 customers myself, but every one of the executives have been on the road, extensively. Beyond the account executives and the people in the field, they're starting to see executives, probably some of them for the first time in a long time. So there is somewhat of a reawakening in our relationships with these long standing relationships. These are extremely important to us.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

These are leading, organizations, across here in The US, but really across the world, and, you know, they're looking to continue the relationship. That's my impression from the relations the meetings that I've had. They're looking to continue these relationships we've been there with for a very long period of time. Change is very hard at the point of sale. We have what we believe the leading applications, in the market, especially what Nick has outlined with our next generation solutions.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

So I think it's very I think you should expect, as we've said in the past and it continued into this quarter, our attrition rate, revenue attrition rate is still at 1%. So customers are staying because they like working with, they believe in the company, and we're committed to their success.

Will Nance
Will Nance
Vice President at Goldman Sachs

That's great. Appreciate all the color and obviously great to see. So, congrats to the team. Thanks for taking the questions.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Thank you. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kartik Mehta with Northcoast Research. Please proceed with your question.

Kartik Mehta
Executive Managing Director & Director - Research at Northcoast Research Partners LLC

Hey, good morning, Jim. It seems like you're starting to have success with the payment business. And I'm wondering, how do you envision that business progressing over the next twelve to eighteen months?

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Good question, Kartik. Thank you. Look, as you well know, I've been doing that for a very most of my career. You know, we are learning, you know, the capabilities of the company both from a point of sale now with Worldpay, but our own internal capabilities with Voyage Pay, our, Works Connect, our internal gateway, capabilities. I think in the past, NCR's view was, they were not in a payments space.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

I mean, until they bought JetPay, and even then, JetPay was just too small of an application or a processor to be able to handle the size of these customers. So my impression is that customers, just like we see in restaurant, they're gonna want, especially new customers, one relationship to provide all the services that we offer, and payments is obviously critical. The point of sale is the most critical, but it's only as good as the payments that continue. I've seen a number of examples where there's a variety of intermediaries between us and the actual processor, and what we're looking to do is streamline it. So thus far, we've had very good success with the mid market on the retail side.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

We are beginning to engage with the larger customers. Again, this is domestically for both retail and restaurant. And customers, especially restaurants in the past, again, given the size of the JetPay's capabilities or its processing capabilities, I think larger restaurants were concerned to do business with that application, but that doesn't exist with Worldpay. So I think Benny has been very active, as has Miguel and the rest of his team, engaging in conversations. So I think we'll start to see again, we're not on that system until, I guess, the fourth quarter, end of the third quarter, beginning of the fourth quarter.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

So I would see it ramping into next year. It's not going to happen overnight. It's not as though we bought a portfolio, and it just lights up, like, days of the past in payments. But these are long term relationships. They trust us, and now we have capabilities that we've never had before, and so we're going to make those available beginning in the fourth quarter.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

On the payment side, we've already begun aggressively on the gateway side to be able to displace competitors that have somehow, over the years, found their way in.

Darren Wilson
Darren Wilson
EVP & President - Retail & Payments at NCR Voyix

I'll try to add a little bit of color, Kartik. As Jim said, domestically strong and have the full end to end proposition here in The US. We're in a good position on the gateway across multiple international markets. And we're actively standing up the pay capability in EMEA, which is our second biggest retail market. So that will follow through to next year.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

One more point that Darren just mentioned that maybe think of it, you know, with the Global Payments acquisition of Worldpay, my former company Global Payments, as well as EVO embedded in that organization gives us greater reach, especially across Europe, into Asia, Asia Pacific, and into South America. So the combination of those two companies, leaders in their space, makes it even more attractive for us to be able to form a relationship with our customers to provide services in more markets than we would have been able to with just Worldpay previously.

Kartik Mehta
Executive Managing Director & Director - Research at Northcoast Research Partners LLC

That's good. Thanks, Jim. Just one question, Benny, on the restaurant side, it seems like competition is increasing on that side, at least over the last six months, And I'm wondering if you're witnessing that, the competition increasing or if you think it's been about the same, just your perspective on how the market is right now.

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

Hey, thanks Kartik. Look, I think the restaurant space has been innovative, especially post the pandemic. We've seen a lot of startups, smaller players entering the market. I wouldn't say the past six months has been any difference since I have arrived. I think what gives me a lot of confidence is the few things that Jim and I discussed when we talked about Buffalo Wild Wings, which is I think out entrenched position, our customer sentiment towards the transformation, and then the showing up the new culture, the investment, and the focus.

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

So, I wouldn't especially call out any anything different over the past six months.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Yeah. One other point of this, I think in particular on the restaurant side, because I think we get compared against others who are public or not companies, is NCR Voyage is predominantly an enterprise company. If you look at the relationships, the brands that we support, these are enterprise organizations. The SME market on restaurant really is born out of the Aloha acquisition. So, we continue to support that market.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

It's an important market for us. But, ultimately, where the company plays is at an enterprise, upper mid market and enterprise level. And I think on that score, we're seeing less of the competition maybe than what you're thinking of.

Kartik Mehta
Executive Managing Director & Director - Research at Northcoast Research Partners LLC

Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank

Isaac Sellhausen
Director - Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.

you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Parker Lane with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Jack McShane
Jack McShane
Equity Research Associate at Stifel Financial Corp

Yeah. Good morning, everyone. This is Jack McShane on for Parker. Thanks for taking the questions.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Good morning.

Jack McShane
Jack McShane
Equity Research Associate at Stifel Financial Corp

I'm curious yeah. Good morning. So the team once provided CAGR expectations, through 2027 that showed, restaurant outpacing retail growth by a point or two. This is proved out from a revenue perspective, but the opposite seems to be true for ARR. Can you provide a little more color here?

Jack McShane
Jack McShane
Equity Research Associate at Stifel Financial Corp

You know, would you expect this trend to shift? And maybe it's just the simple factor of quicker retail adoption of platform, but, yeah, a little more color here would be helpful.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Yeah. I I would I would suggest, as Benny put in his comments, you know, during the spin and shortly thereafter the spin, you know, there was a lot of dislocation at the executive level, in particular on restaurant side more so than the retail side. There's a number of dynamics here that cause that to occur, and so we only just recently reestablished the entire leadership team underneath Benny in last, in this first quarter of this year, or first half of this year. So I think trends that maybe were discussed several years ago, or I actually wasn't here, so I don't know exactly when that would have occurred, I think those trends will change fairly rapidly over the next six to twelve months, and probably be more in line with expectations previously. But again, the disruption of going through a split, of which I've seen that firsthand in another company, now that is a big change for the organization.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

It was a change for the better, as I said earlier, but I think on the retail side, which represents a significantly larger piece of business because it's more global, That organization largely stayed intact. Now we've made a number of changes since I've joined, almost in each of the regions, but we have a very strong core group of people across the markets. Not the same on restaurant side, not at least at this point in time. Do want to add anything?

Jack McShane
Jack McShane
Equity Research Associate at Stifel Financial Corp

Got it.

Jack McShane
Jack McShane
Equity Research Associate at Stifel Financial Corp

On the payment side, up 3% this quarter. Is it in line with expectations internally? And where do you think we can expect to see that go under the Worldpay partnership?

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Yeah. Think as I said last, I don't know that I'm going give a long term forecast on it, but I think it'll be significantly bigger than that number because you're talking about, you know, we have probably four fifty very large customers that, today don't, take payments. Today, what you're seeing in payments exclusively, almost exclusively SME and more on the smaller side than even the mid size. And that's almost exclusively on the restaurant side, more so than the retail side. Plus we have, you know, we look at ourselves as four regions, Latin America, US, Canada, Europe, Asia, and then Japan.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

And other than The US, we're really not promoting payments in any other way. So I think you'll see significant growth growth. Timing, we expect to begin to see and be able to show you in the first half of next year. But, you know, at this point, everything is very positive. The conversations we've had, the wins we've already had with customers both on gateway and payments, I think will continue.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

The best evidence is on the restaurant side, all new customers that come in through our SME organization, it's almost 100%. So it will look exactly like we outlined. I think in all the other ones it will take a little longer because they have existing relationships. These are bigger organizations. But in the end, we're offering them one relationship, as opposed to dealing with a multitude of relationships.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

And while that may sound somewhat trivial, when there's a problem, when you can't get your system to work because of a a disconnect between the point of sale and the processor, then I can assure you lots of phones start to ring very aggressively. So having one relationship all the way to the end is absolutely a selling feature. It's not something unique to us. There's plenty there's plenty other software companies that have been doing this for a number of years. It's just not something that NCR embraced years ago, and we're embracing it now.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

So I have high expectations that payments are going to be a meaningful part of our revenue going forward.

Jack McShane
Jack McShane
Equity Research Associate at Stifel Financial Corp

Great. Thanks for the color.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Yep. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alex Newman with Stephens Inc. Please proceed with your question.

Alex Neumann
Research Associate at Stephens Inc

Hi. Thanks for taking the question. So lots of good new customers signing here within restaurant and retail. I was wondering if you could size the amount of ARR and backlog for implementation or the change in backlog. Just any color here as you think about the forward, software revenue growth here.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Yeah. I'll start this. If you look at a trend, I don't have the piece of paper in front of me. Hang on a second.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

If you look at our trend from last year to where we are now, actually this goes back to '23. I think software ARR was something around 700, it's approaching 800 today. So, it is definitely moving in a very positive direction. And that's during a period of spin, of sales of businesses, I mean, there's just a lot of clutter in that. I can't overemphasize how different an organization, even from the time that I was the chairman to where now I'm the CEO, that the focus has only enhanced because of all the good work that was done last year to fix the balance sheet and deal with some other structural issues.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

It's much more focused now on getting the new products out, that's what's planning for NRF, that's what Nick has been working on together with our CIO, Johnson. So I would expect you'll continue to see that grow. As we actually bring on these, you know, as launched the VOIX PAWS into the marketplace, I think you'll see somewhat explosive growth in those numbers. And from on

Darren Wilson
Darren Wilson
EVP & President - Retail & Payments at NCR Voyix

the retail side, you've seen the mix shift in terms of what's been happening on the hardware trends and per my prepared remarks of 50 customers who are predominantly software and services with the corresponding growth in platform and payment sites. So kind of the mix shift is trending to recurring. So per your ARR comment, I think you'll see the tailwinds follow that rather than the typical one time hardware. Benny?

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

Very similar on the restaurant side. Continued continued mixed shift towards software and services. And in those mixes, recurring versus one time. I think the other the other shift that we're seeing is when we form these relationships, those relationships tend to be multifaceted. So it's not just software, it's software and services and it's not just POS, but it's also the POS and some of the add on functionalities like loyalty, like, the smart manager for for the POS or your back office, etcetera.

Benny Tadele
Benny Tadele
EVP & President of Restaurants at NCR Voyix

Those are driving the ARR lift that we're seeing, and we're excited about it.

Alex Neumann
Research Associate at Stephens Inc

Awesome. Thank you.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our time allowed for questions. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Kelly for any final comments.

James Kelly
James Kelly
President, CEO & Director at NCR Voyix

Thank you operator, and thank you all for joining the call today and your continued interest in NCR Vowix.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

Executives
    • Sarah Jane Schneider
      Sarah Jane Schneider
      VP - IR
    • James Kelly
      James Kelly
      President, CEO & Director
    • Nick East
      Nick East
      EVP & Chief Product Officer
    • Benny Tadele
      Benny Tadele
      EVP & President of Restaurants
    • Darren Wilson
      Darren Wilson
      EVP & President - Retail & Payments
Analysts
    • Dan Perlin
      Financial Technology Analyst at RBC Capital Markets
    • Isaac Sellhausen
      Director - Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.
    • Will Nance
      Vice President at Goldman Sachs
    • Kartik Mehta
      Executive Managing Director & Director - Research at Northcoast Research Partners LLC
    • Jack McShane
      Equity Research Associate at Stifel Financial Corp
    • Alex Neumann
      Research Associate at Stephens Inc