Nortech Systems Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Despite a 9.5% year-over-year drop in net sales to $30.7 M, Nortech delivered a 15.8% gross margin and generated positive adjusted EBITDA of $1.1 M in Q2 2025.
  • Negative Sentiment: Aerospace and defense revenues were negatively impacted by the closure of the Blue Earth facility and slow customer approvals delaying transfer to Bemidji, though management expects a return to normal in 2025.
  • Positive Sentiment: Customer backlog increased by approximately $10 M to $78.4 M as of June 30, signaling strengthening demand and future revenue visibility.
  • Positive Sentiment: Cost discipline actions—including sale of the Blue Earth facility, reduction of headquarters lease space, and headcount management—contributed to lower operating expenses.
  • Positive Sentiment: Nortech is well positioned in nearshoring under the USMCA, has limited tariff exposure, and is driving growth through advanced fiber optic innovations like EBX and AOX.
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Earnings Conference Call
Nortech Systems Q2 2025
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There are 3 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Nortech Systems Incorporated Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. With me on the line today are Jay Miller, President and Chief Executive Officer and Andrew LaFrenze, Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President of Finance. All lines have been placed on a listen only mode and the call will be opened for questions and comments following the management presentation. At this time, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Andy Leffrons.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Jenny. I would also like to welcome everyone to today's conference call. Jay will begin the call with a review of our operations, recent developments and business outlook. Then I will review Nortech's second quarter twenty twenty five financial results before turning it back over to Jay for his closing comments. Then we will open up the call for your questions.

Speaker 1

Before we continue, please note that statements made during this call may be forward looking regarding expected net sales, operating results, future plans, opportunities and other company expectations. These estimates, plans and other forward looking statements involve unknown and known risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied on this call. These risks, including those that are detailed in our most recent SEC filings, may be amended or supplemented. The statements made during this conference call are made based upon information known by Nortech as of the date and time of this call, and we assume no obligation to update the information in today's call. You will find Nortex complete Safe Harbor statements in our SEC filings.

Speaker 1

And with that, I will turn it over to Jay for his opening comments. Jay? Thank you, Andy, and

Speaker 2

good morning, everyone. We're glad you could join us today. Our second quarter results are a testament to dedication, resilience and execution of our entire team. Despite lower revenue compared with the 2024, we delivered improved earnings and positive EBITDA this quarter, Near term clear evidence that our restructuring efforts and cost discipline are paying off. Increased plant utilization and improved manufacturing efficiencies across transfer programs are building the operational foundation we need for sustained performance improvement.

Speaker 2

Operationally, we have also made strategic inventory shifts, reducing raw materials while investing in finished goods to support key customer stocking programs. Further, we are starting to see improvements in our manufacturing efficiencies, as our teams are gaining experience manufacturing transferred production between plants on a recurring basis. As previously noted, the 2025 and the 2024 revenues in our aerospace and defense market were negatively impacted by our closure of our Blue Earth facility and the transfer of customer programs to Bemidji due to unexpected delays as a result of slow customer approvals. We have made significant headway with our customers' approvals over the past quarter, and we fully expect our Aerospace and Defense business to get back to normal in the 2025. The team at Bemidji has been working very hard, and we're very encouraged by the progress of the team has made.

Speaker 2

Regarding our cost structure, we also continue to be very diligent in managing operating costs. Over the past three quarters, we have undertaken significant actions to reduce our cost structure with the Blue Earth facility closure, a reduction of our headquarters lease space, along with other actions during the 2025 to further manage our headcount based on our current operating metrics. Meanwhile, the on again, off again imposition of tariffs may significantly impact manufacturers with facilities in China and Mexico, including Nortech. While the tariffs with Mexico are currently somewhat uncertain, it's important to note that NORTEC is not the importer of record into The United States for goods produced in Mexico, as we operate under a Maquiladora structure for our customers. This materially reduces our direct exposure to these tariffs.

Speaker 2

As we expected, many of our customers are evaluating their supply chain strategies. We believe we are currently well positioned with our North American footprint as our Monterey and Maquiladora operations and Minnesota facilities work under the framework of the USMCA. As for China, as I've mentioned on past calls, much of our production work there is built in country for country and non U. S. Markets, a near shoring approach to better serve our customers in the global market with reduced shipping costs and time.

Speaker 2

As a result, our China tariff exposure is primarily related to piece parts imported from China rather than larger finished goods imported from China. As tariffs on Chinese imports may change, we are closely monitoring these impacts in our business and adjusting customer pricing, as well as our sourcing strategies as needed to mitigate any adverse effects. As with our North American footprint, we are seeing opportunities in China with companies seeking to consolidate their manufacturing within China to serve the Chinese and Asian markets. All in all, we're working hard to have all hands on deck to proactively monitor the shifting landscape, trade policies and uncertainties in the current geopolitical environment. As we are continuing to work to execute our strategy to partner closely with customers to drive shorter lead times, tailored on time delivery strategies, along with deeper customer partnerships that are fundamental to our long term growth.

Speaker 2

As a result of the tariffs, we are also encouraged by the new flow of opportunities to quote onshore production in both North America under the USMCA as well as in China. A key takeaway from today's call, and I want to make this very clear, is we remain cautiously optimistic. Our position in the near shoring landscape, both in Mexico and China, is strong. And recent news articles in the New York Times and Wall Street Journal underscore the strategic advantage Mexico holds in today's tariff environment. Now I'll turn it over to Andy for a more in-depth look at our financial results.

Speaker 2

Andy?

Speaker 1

Thank you, Jay. In the next few minutes, I will provide certain details of our financial performance in the 2025. I would encourage you to review our Form eight ks contained in our press release and non GAAP measures as well as our quarterly report on Form 10 Q filed earlier this morning with the U. S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

Speaker 1

As a continued team, we have historically noted our individual quarterly performance can be affected by outside factors. These might include timing fluctuations, including seasonal fluctuations, customer shipments and supply chain issues. Any of these could materially impact a particular quarter either positively or negatively. Consequently, we believe it's more important to review our business on a twelve month basis rather than focusing on quarterly performance. This approach will help normalize these potential anomalies and offer a better gauge of our strategy's long term success.

Speaker 1

So today, while I'll focus most of my comments on our second quarter results, I will spend some time reviewing trailing twelve months results for the business. Net sales for the 2025 totaled $30,700,000 This represents a 9.5% decrease from the net sales of $33,900,000 in the 2024. Net sales in the 2025 were negatively impacted by delays in aerospace and defense customers' approvals of products transferred from our Blue Earth facility to our Bemidji facility as well as manufacturing and plant utilization inefficiencies related to the movement of various production between plants. As Jay noted, we made significant headway with the transfer of these customer programs in the 2025. Our customer backlog at the end of the 2025 grew approximately $10,000,000 from 03/31/2025 to $78,400,000 2025 gross profit totaled $4,800,000 or 15.8% of net sales compared with gross profit of $4,600,000 or 13.6% net sales in the same prior year quarter.

Speaker 1

The increase in gross profit as a percentage of net sales in the current year period was a result of increased facility utilization and increased manufacturing productivity, which was more than offset by lower net sales. Operating expenses for the second quarter were down $178,000 as compared with the prior year period as a result of higher selling expenses from the realignment of our customer facing managers to a sales function reporting to business development that were previously included in cost of sales. This increase is more than offset by lower payroll costs and expense management as well as reduced restructuring costs. We completed the sale of our Blue Earth facility in July, which further reduces our ongoing operating expenses. Moving to the cash flow statement for the six months ended 06/30/2025, net cash used in operating activities totaled $2,800,000 as compared with $1,500,000 in the same period in 2024.

Speaker 1

The timing of revenue shipments as well as customer and vendor payments impacted operating cash flow for the periods. Further, we generated cash from the execution of our strategy to decrease inventory levels in the second quarter and we plan to further reduce our investment in inventory during the remainder of 2025. As noted in our press release distributed this morning, we use earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortization or EBITDA, as well as adjusted EBITDA, which does not reflect the restructuring charges we incurred through the second quarter related to our staff reductions and Blue Earth plant closures as key performance indicators to manage our business. While plant closure excuse me, While EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA are non GAAP measures, we believe these provide meaningful information regarding our underlying core business financial performance. In our press release, we have provided a reconciliation of our financial performance determined in accordance with US generally accepted accounting principles and EBITDA as well as adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker 1

For the quarter ended 06/30/2025, adjusted EBITDA was $1,100,000 as compared with $900,000 in the same period in 2024. Turning to the balance sheet. As of 06/30/2025, cash totaled $652,000 down from $916,000 as of 12/31/2024. The fluctuation in cash balances reflects the timing of cash receipts, expenditures, distributions of earnings from our Chinese operations and credit line borrowings, which aggregated $11,600,000 as of the end of the quarter. Accounts receivable as of June 30 were $17,800,000 up from $14,900,000 as of 12/31/2024.

Speaker 1

Inventories were $18,600,000 as of 06/30/2025 as compared with 21,600,000.0 as of 12/31/2024. Contract asset, which represents revenue earned but not yet billed to customers increased to $15,000,000 as of 06/30/2025 as compared with $13,800,000 as the December 2024. This increase reflects the timing of customer shipments and our focus on increased production to reduce raw material balances and optimize planned operations. In our press release issued earlier today, we presented non GAAP results including trailing twelve months financial data and EBITDA. For the twelve months ended 06/30/2025, net sales were 117,600,000.0 as compared with 137,500,000.0 for the twelve month period ended 06/30/2024.

Speaker 1

In adjust in addition, adjusted EBITDA for the twelve month period ended 06/30/2025 was negative 400,000.0 as compared with 7,300,000.0 in twelve month period ended 06/30/2024. As we noted, over the past year, we have experienced revenue and resulting earning headwinds from changes in customer ordering patterns, knuckle device customers post COVID rebalancing inventory levels and delays in aerospace and defense programs from being moved from blue earth to Bemidji. We believe that our second quarter twenty twenty performance and recent improved customer backlog as compared with the 2024 are leading indicators of tailwinds in our future revenues. Our top financial priorities for 2025 remain unchanged. First, we are extremely focused on continuing to strengthen our balance sheet, including our plan to further reduce our inventory investments in 2025.

Speaker 1

Next, we will focus on driving efficiencies in our manufacturing process, especially for those programs we have transferred over the past year to new facilities to deliver sustainable long term EBITDA growth as well as driving improvements in free cash flow. Coupled with disciplined lean operation execution, expense management and R and D innovation, we believe Nortech can deliver on our objectives. With that, I'll now turn it back over for Jay for his closing comments. Jay?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Andy. Before we open the call to your questions, I want to highlight once again three related areas that together serve our customers and help advance Nortech's corporate stewardship, Nortech's engineering expertise, product innovation focus, and sustainability plans. As for engineering expertise, we have a dedicated engineering services team focused on enhanced manufacturability, serviceability, supply chain risk mitigation, and cost efficiency for our customers. Our three tier cost structure across The U. S, Mexico and China allows us to quickly adopt our global engineering resources to fit our customers' changing needs.

Speaker 2

A core goal of our long term strategic plan focuses on unique innovation. This is somewhat unusual for most contract manufacturers. Nortech's engineering capabilities and innovation skills further our research and development activities with advancements like expanded Beam Extreme fiber optic technology, or EBX, that we announced in January. EBX is designed for digital data transmission through the very complex custom cable systems we manufacture and offers improved speed, reliability and security when compared to traditional copper. We're also excited about our Active Optical Extreme, or AOX, hybrid power plus data fiber optic technology that works in sophisticated magnetic environments, a testament to our team's dedication to innovation, hard work and excellence in the field of digital connectivity solutions.

Speaker 2

AoX represents a significant advancement in our product offerings and underscores our commitment to providing state of the art solutions to meet the evolving needs of our clients to deliver products that offer lighter weight, lower cost and ruggedized solutions sustainably. At the simplest level, the vast majority of Nortex products provide complex custom digital connectivity solutions that transmit data and power in various applications. As you may know, the Internet of Things or IoT integrates a variety of electronic components such as microcontrollers, sensors, actuators, and connectivity modules. These components in turn enable IoT connected devices to collect, parse, transmit, and receive data. More and more today, that data is being evaluated and analyzed using combined artificial and human intelligence for improved performance and data management for our customers as well as for their customers.

Speaker 2

For Nortech, we see AI capabilities as a clear opportunity to streamline and improve our processes, make our employees more productive and serve our customers better. You'll hear more about our innovations in AI in future conference calls. More data means needs better and faster data pipelines, and that's where Nortech comes in. Technology like our EBX smart cables collect helps collect and distribute this data faster, more cost effectively and more securely across these sophisticated networks. We see strong opportunities for growth with EBX smart cables.

Speaker 2

Our pivot to more fiber optic technology improves product performance for our customers by offering unparalleled speed and reliability. It also aligns with this global sustainability goals we share with many of those customers. When compared with traditional copper, fiber optics offers significant environmental benefits during both production and operations, including improved energy efficiency and less material usage, while significantly decrease the carbon footprint of the complex cables we manufacture. One might think that our customers no longer care about their carbon footprint, but we're listening carefully to our customers, and for a range of important business reasons, we know they still do care. We also know our aerospace and defense customers are adopting fiber optic technology due to these key advantages, reduced size, weight and power requirements, immunity to electromagnetic interference and greater ruggedization in harsh environments.

Speaker 2

Harsh environments, of course, are very common for aerospace and defense applications. Nortech has a proud history of serving these customers' unique needs, dating back roughly thirty years. It's the smallest of our four core markets by net sales, but it's our fastest growing segment and very important for our diversification and future growth. Our contributions to our national defense are also a source of great pride for the Nortech team. The majority of our aerospace and defense cables are still the traditional type common in legacy defense systems, such as shipboard missile launchers for the Navy.

Speaker 2

But we're looking for the future with ruggedized fiber optics MT and 38,099 connectors and evolving along with our customers. In closing, we are excited about these technological developments across all of our markets and expect them to support our continued sales momentum in 2025 and beyond, aided by stabilization of supply chain and customer orders. We're seeing an increased increase in our fiber optics capabilities from our customers. Nortech is well positioned to capitalize on these trends with our advanced fiber optic capabilities. Our EBX and AOX technologies align perfectly with the industry's move toward more efficient and reliable fiber optic solutions.

Speaker 2

EBX offers non physical contact connectors for applications in harsh environments, while AOX combines fiber optics with copper to provide EMI immune, high speed data transmission, low speed signals, and power delivery in one hybrid cable. By integrating digital diagnostics with fiber optic cables, we're able to generate real time cable and system performance data. These digital diagnostic cables advance our customers' ability to monitor their systems and devices and evolve from preventative maintenance to predictive maintenance to minimize downtime and costs. With our intellectual property and fiber optic and digital technologies, we're well aligned with projected future demand for fiber products in the aerospace and defense market. We're also taking a forward looking stance on materials, shifting focus from copper to fiber to mitigate cost pressures and align with our long term strategic strategy to produce lighter, faster, and more sustainable, and potentially more affordable technology.

Speaker 2

Now we'll open up the call for questions. Jenny, please open the lines.

Operator

Thank you very much. We are now conducting our question and answer session. I'm not seeing any questions come into the queue just at this moment, but we can hang on a second just in case. Okay. I'm not seeing any questions in the queue.

Operator

So I will hand back over to Jay for any further comments.

Speaker 2

Very good. Thank you, Jenny. And thanks, everyone, for joining us today. We look forward to talking with you in November when we report our third quarter twenty twenty five results. Again, thank you and goodbye.

Operator

Thank you very much. This does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your phone lines at this time and have a lovely day. We thank you for your participation.