NASDAQ:OPRX OptimizeRx Q2 2025 Earnings Report $12.84 +0.36 (+2.88%) Closing price 08/7/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$15.90 +3.06 (+23.79%) As of 08/7/2025 07:59 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast OptimizeRx EPS ResultsActual EPSN/AConsensus EPS $0.03Beat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AOptimizeRx Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$22.27 millionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AOptimizeRx Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2025Date8/7/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 7, 2025Conference Call Time4:30PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by OptimizeRx Q2 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 7, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Q2 revenue rose 55% year-over-year to $29.2 million, while adjusted EBITDA reached $5.8 million, a more than $5 million improvement. Positive Sentiment: The company raised full-year guidance to $104–108 million in revenue and $14.5–17.5 million in adjusted EBITDA, reflecting confidence in continued momentum. Positive Sentiment: Contracted revenue increased over 30% year-over-year, driven by robust growth across both HCP and DTC products. Positive Sentiment: Accelerated debt reduction with $4.5 million paid in Q2—$4 million ahead of schedule—supported by $8.4 million in operating cash flow and $16.6 million ending cash balance. Positive Sentiment: Operating leverage was evident as OpEx remained flat at $15.4 million despite strong revenue growth, and gross margin expanded to 63.8%. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallOptimizeRx Q2 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining OptimizeRx's Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. We have with us today Chief Executive Officer, Steve Silvestro. He is joined by Chief Financial Officer, Ed Stelmak Chief Legal Officer, Marion Odensford and Senior Vice President of Corporate Finance, Andrew D'Silva. At the conclusion of today's call, I will provide some important cautions regarding the forward looking statements made by management during today's call. The company will also be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures, which it believes are useful in evaluating the company's operating results. Operator00:00:46A reconciliation of such non GAAP financial measures is included in the earnings release the company issued this afternoon, as well as in the Investor Relations section of the company's website. I would like to remind everyone that today's call is being recorded and will be made available for replay as an audio recording of this conference call on the Investor Relations section of the company's website. Now, I would like to turn the call over to OptimizeRx CEO, Steve Silvestro. Mr. Silvestro, please go ahead. Speaker 100:01:20Thank you, operator, and good afternoon to everyone joining today's second quarter twenty twenty five call. Overall, we had a strong 2025 with results ahead of both consensus estimates and our internal expectations. Recent momentum has continued with Q2 revenues increasing 55% year over year to $29,200,000 with adjusted EBITDA coming in at $5,800,000 an improvement of over $5,000,000 year over year. Moreover, our contracted revenue continues to increase to more than 30% year over year, which positions us favorably in the 2025. I believe this is a clear indicator that our focus on operational excellence while ensuring we delight our customers and forge stronger relationships with valued business partners is bearing fruit. Speaker 100:02:07Before moving on, I want to take a moment and thank our market leading team. We deeply appreciate the dedication and hard work of everyone at OptimizeRx as we navigate an increasingly complex, dynamic, and still emerging digital pharma marketplace. The industry is undergoing a significant shift and our products and services are poised to fundamentally reshape how pharmaceutical companies, patients and prescribers engage. Our mission driven culture not only fuels this transformation, but also positions us to attract, retain and strengthen the critical relationships a leading technology company needs to be a trusted and enduring partner. With that said, I'm happy to say we are increasing our guidance for the year and are looking for revenue to come in between $104,000,000 and $108,000,000 with adjusted EBITDA to be between $14,500,000 and $17,500,000 Moreover, while it's still very early, initial indications for 2026 appear promising. Speaker 100:03:03As a result, we feel comfortable with consensus current revenue and adjusted EBITDA projections for 2026. And we will give formal guidance as we get deeper into the 2026 RFP process. In addition, we paid down $4,500,000 of principal during the second quarter, which was $4,000,000 above our debt payment schedule. At this time, given the free cash flow we're seeing in our business, we intend on paying down our debt at an accelerated rate and don't believe we'll need to access the equity capital markets for the foreseeable future. As you can see, we certainly believe that we're hitting our stride. Speaker 100:03:38Our disciplined cost management and sharp cross selling strategies rooted in helping customers optimize budget allocation to drive script lift are fueling strong momentum heading into the 2025 and beyond. Our strong second quarter and first half results clearly show that the Rule of 40 performance is no longer a distant goal. It's firmly within our sites. Perhaps most notably, average revenue over the last twelve months for our largest five customers now stands at over $11,000,000 average. We believe OptimizeRx is uniquely positioned to drive meaningful value creation and deliver sustainable long term shareholder growth. Speaker 100:04:18Powered by one of the nation's largest point of care networks, we enable pharmaceutical manufacturers to reach healthcare providers directly when it matters most. Building on this powerful foundation, we've integrated a purpose built omni channel technology platform featuring advanced patient finding tools like DAP, micro neighborhood targeting, that are redefining how pharmaceutical companies, physicians and patients connect, communicate and act. This innovative approach is not only transforming engagement across the healthcare ecosystem, but also helping to improve patient outcomes. These advantages provide us with a durable and defensible competitive moat. With unmatched access to both the point of care and direct to consumer channels, we believe we are uniquely positioned in the market as the only player capable of engaging providers and patients at scale. Speaker 100:05:06This strategic positioning has enabled us to build the industry's most comprehensive and integrated solution set, allowing us to serve a broad range of customer needs across the full product lifecycle, drive deeper customer relationships, and capture greater share of long term value. As mentioned on previous calls, as our business continues to evolve, a key focus for the company will be drawing greater attention to our reach and scalability, while positioning ourselves as a strategic partner in addressing some of the most critical commercialization challenges facing pharma today. These include improving brand visibility, reducing script abandonment, enhancing interoperability, and supporting the growing shift toward more complex and costly specialty medications. I'm confident that success in these areas combined with the strong performance we are already delivering through the solutions that deliver high ROIs and strong script lift will drive significant shareholder value over time. Moreover, this momentum will position us to capture greater market share while also expanding the overall size of pharma's multibillion dollar digital spend. Speaker 100:06:07Our customers remain deeply embedded within our ecosystem of offerings, and it remains our goal to help them stay present through the patient care journey across the integrated HCP and DTC business. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CFO, Ed Stelmak, who'll walk us through the financial details. Ed? Speaker 200:06:26Thanks, Steve, and good afternoon, everyone. A press release was issued with the financial results of our second quarter ended 06/30/2025. A copy is available for viewing and may be downloaded from the Investor Relations section of our website, and additional information can be obtained through our forthcoming 10 Q. Second quarter revenue was $29,200,000 an increase of 55% from the $18,800,000 we recognized during the same period in 2024. Gross margin for this quarter increased from 62.2% in the quarter ended 06/30/2024, to 63.8% in the quarter ended 06/30/2025. Speaker 200:07:14Year on year gross margin expansion is tied to a favorable product mix, economies of scale, as well as a favorable channel partner mix. Our operating expenses for the quarter ended 06/30/2025, were essentially flat year over year at $15,400,000 despite the significant revenue growth we showed. We had a net income of $1,500,000 or $08 per basic and fully diluted share for the three months ended 06/30/2025, as compared to a net loss of $4,000,000 or $0.22 per basic and fully diluted share for the same three month period in 2024. On a non GAAP basis, our net income for the 2025 was $4,500,000 or $0.24 per fully diluted share outstanding, as compared to a non GAAP net income of $300,000 or $02 per fully diluted share outstanding in the same year ago period. Our adjusted EBITDA came in at $5,800,000 for the 2025, compared to $500,000 during the 2024. Speaker 200:08:39Operating cash flow was $8,400,000 for the 2025, and we ended the quarter with a $16,600,000 cash balance as compared to $13,400,000 on 12/31/2024. The remaining principal on our debt financing currently stands at 29,300,000.0 And we paid 4,500,000.0 in principal during the quarter, which was $4,000,000 ahead of our payment schedule. At this time, we intend to deploy at least a portion of our free cash flow to pay down the principal on our loan faster, as we look to continuously lower our cost of capital. With that said, we continue to believe that our healthy balance sheet will help us execute against our operational goals. Now, let's turn to our KPIs for the 2025. Speaker 200:09:43Average revenue per top 20 pharmaceutical manufacturer now stands at $3,100,000 Net revenue retention rate remained strong at 121%. Meanwhile, revenue per FTE came in at 767,000, topping the 658,000 we posted in Q2 twenty twenty four. We are encouraged by the continuing improvement in our KPIs, as we continue to execute against our strategy of driving profitable growth as a leader in our space. Now with that, I'll turn the call back over to Steve. Steve? Speaker 100:10:31Thanks, Ed. Operator, now let's move to q and a. Operator00:10:36Certainly. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. If you Speaker 300:10:45are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing Operator00:10:48the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then 2. Our first question comes from Richard Baldry with ROTH Capital. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:11:10Thanks. Congrats on an incredible quarter. So many things to ask, I'll try to narrow it. But last quarter you talked about your typical revenue cadence being 15% to 20% in Q1, 20% to 23% in Q2. If we look at what you've now done in the first half and use those cadences, revenues will come in sharply above even your increased guidance, be closer to $128,000,000 if you use the midpoints. Speaker 400:11:37Can you talk about whether there's anything one time in Q2, any outliers there that we need to pull away to make that cadence sort of more normalized? Or how do we think about that given the extraordinary upside you just did on the revenue number and earnings for that matter? Speaker 100:11:54Hey, Rich, thanks question. For Great to hear your voice. We did have in the 2025 a little bit of managed service revenue still in the revenues. And so what we're guiding to on the full year, we think is, again conservative but achievable. We're going to continue to hit that drumbeat of conservatism but not sandbagging but being conservative. Speaker 300:12:20So Speaker 100:12:25second half, I think we feel comfortable with our updated guidance. Ed, You'd Speaker 200:12:33I'll add a little bit to that. Hey, Risher. Yeah, so as Steve said, first half definitely had a little bit of managed service revenue that was above our expectation. Just so you know, managed service revenue typically is contracted for three to six months in duration. And it is something that comes a little bit as a surprise to us in terms of any upside or any extensions to existing contracts. Speaker 200:13:00So we typically don't forecast it in our numbers. And what you saw in Q2 is kind of exactly that phenomenon where we were surprised by a little bit higher managed service revenue than we had in Q1. But currently, don't expect that to continue into the second half. Speaker 400:13:22Got it. Then on the cost side, OpEx is basically flat despite revenues up 33% sequentially. And at some point, that can't be sustainable. How do we think about OpEx in the second half? Speaker 100:13:36Yeah, thanks. I think what we're trying to show in the model there, what we are showing in the model is operating leverage, Rich. So we made some pretty significant investments in the back half of last year and really in Q1 of this year to operationalize more of our technology. Part of what you're seeing on the OpEx there is a lack of need to add more to drive revenue. I think we are right now, we've got the team that we well above what we're currently looking at for 2025. Speaker 100:14:05So I don't expect that you'll see OpEx growing going into the back half of the year, although a need may come up, but we feel pretty good about the OpEx number. Speaker 200:14:15Just to add a little bit more color. Yes, so basically we are accruing for our current forecasted range as far as bonuses and variable comp. So, there's no kind of true up in the back end of the year. So, I would agree with Steve that you can expect roughly the same run rate in the second half as in the first half. Speaker 400:14:40Okay, then I'll try to make this maybe my last one, but the ARPU of your top 20 grew pretty strongly, but at the same time, they're a smaller percent of total revenue. So it fell from 66 to 59. So it argues that the rest of your non top 20 revenues are growing faster. Is that a function of faster logo ads do you think? Or is it a function of the ARPU for those non top 20 growing at an even faster pace? Speaker 400:15:08Thanks. Speaker 100:15:10Yeah, it's really a function of those under the top 20 starting to grow a little bit faster. And we had, I think we shared broadly on the last call, we had a couple of sort of midsize or smaller accounts start to join the ranks of some of the bigger larger top 10 that we've been mentioning, which we think we've been very encouraged by that. So the growth in the mid cap and small businesses is accelerating and we think that's going to continue to happen. So it's not that the top 10 is doing worse. In fact, the average revenue per top 10 continues to improve off of what we shared last time. Speaker 100:15:45So we're feeling pretty confident going into the back half. Great question. Thank you. Speaker 400:15:51Yes. So I always think I'm last, but let's do one last one. So if I did a rule of 40 on the quarter, I get 20% adjusted EBITDA and 55% growth for '75. And at some point that's almost a ludicrous number. So again, do you feel like the OpEx side needs to kind of grow at all quicker to keep up to this pace? Speaker 400:16:13Or I know it's a digital and scalable business, it's sort of hard to grow this fast sometimes without having Operator00:16:20to invest in the business. Speaker 100:16:22Yeah, Ed, I'll let you comment on Sure. That one Speaker 200:16:26Yeah, look, I mean, as we said, a one quarter phenomenon right now. We're not projecting anything near that growth rate for the year. I can tell you internally, we don't feel overly stretched or stressed by this kind of growth rate at all. So if it continues to grow even at half that rate, we feel like we're well staffed and equipped to handle the growth rate. Up to a certain point, obviously. Speaker 200:16:53It's not going to last forever, but certainly in the foreseeable future. Speaker 400:16:59Right. I'll leave it Congrats on an amazing quarter. Speaker 200:17:03Thank you. Speaker 100:17:03Thanks, Rich. Appreciate all the support. Operator00:17:08Our next question comes from Eric Mutnucci with Lake Street. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:17:15Yeah. I wanted to dive in on the contracted revenue being up 30% year on year. What can you tell us about the types of revenues that are contracted here? Are these pointed at the B2C? Are they at practitioners? Speaker 500:17:31The length of the campaigns? Are we talking a sixty day spend, a six month spend? Speaker 100:17:38Hey, Eric. Great to hear from you. I'll give a little bit of voiceover and then have Mandy chime in too. But contracted revenue right now is following the exact same product mix that it has in the past. So it's a blend of HCP and DTC business, both businesses growing at really solid rates. Speaker 100:17:58I think at this point in terms of revenue lines, we are seeing good growth in our audiences. So our DAP business continues to grow at a probably an outsized pace, which is good for us. We're not breaking apart as you know, DTC and NTP revenue we treated as one business now. So not gonna break that apart. But in terms of the quality of revenues, quality of contracted revenue specifically, it's as good as it's been. Speaker 100:18:24And we're feeling strong going into the back half. In terms of length of contracts, it's the same as it's been in the past. So nothing to report there in terms of multi year yet, although we're working on trying to lengthen those contract terms. Ed, anything you'd add? Speaker 200:18:43Yeah, I would just add that it's a broad based ramp up in contracted revenues faster than I've seen since I've been here. So certainly to me, it's a nice signal of adoption and appetite for what we bring to the market certainly in the current year. Speaker 500:19:04When you say broad based, you're talking about both top 20 and below top 20. Is that what you mean? Speaker 200:19:09Yeah, as you can see, you've got top five growing nicely, top 20, and then beyond that. Since we don't disclose the actual mix underneath the hood, both HCP and DCC sides of the business are performing really well. Speaker 500:19:28Got it. Thanks for taking my question. Sure. Speaker 100:19:33Good to hear from you, Our Operator00:19:38next question comes from Anderson Shock Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:19:45Hi. Thank you for taking the questions and congrats on a really impressive quarter. So I guess, could we just talk about the reduction in top 20 pharma revenue concentration? Are there better contract economics with mid tier pharma companies? And maybe do you have a target mix for this? Speaker 100:20:02Yeah. Andy, why don't we have you take that question? Speaker 300:20:06Yeah, I think it's just a function of opt efficiencies being taken place at smaller cap companies. Speaker 400:20:16So they're, you know, Speaker 300:20:17looking to to save wallet, and increase the ability to to market efficiently since they have less dollars to be able to spend. So our our technology is starting to be more proven, and so we're just seeing them start to adopt at a faster rate. But keep in mind, there's a lot more logos from the 20 to 100 mark and they're in the top 20. So while the dollars are less for a logo typically, they are growing at a faster rate and starting off at a smaller base, if that makes sense. Speaker 600:20:50Okay. That's helpful. And then on the last call, you reported 5% of projected annual revenue converted to the DAP subscription contracts. I guess, what percent of your revenue is now subscription based? And how should we think about the gross margin trajectory for the back half of the year as that subscription revenue continues to scale? Speaker 100:21:10Ed, why don't you take that one? Speaker 200:21:12Yes. So again, we don't break it out, but the 5% number currently still is valid. And right now, we have kind of a pipeline line of sight to about 10% for the year, assuming pipeline closes and converts. Speaker 600:21:30Okay, got it. Thank you for taking the questions, and congrats again on the quarter. Speaker 200:21:34Thank you. Speaker 100:21:35Thanks, Anderson. Operator00:21:38The next question comes from David Grossman with Stifel Financial. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:21:45Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. Just a couple of quick follow-up questions here to maybe some things that were asked. I think last quarter Steve you gave us a metric in terms of your visibility on the year compare at the March compared to March year. Can you do the same for us for the end of the June quarter? Speaker 100:22:09Yeah. Thanks, David. It's good to hear from you. We're not to give a number on contracted revenue other than to say at this point we're 30% or better than we were same time last year. So I think we're pretty confident in being able to share that. Speaker 100:22:25We're going to stop sharing an actual contracted revenue number. And you know that we're not sharing. We haven't been sharing a pipeline number throughout the year this year. So I would say what we shared with you last time still valid. Just think of that growing at a 30% clip or better. Speaker 100:22:40And that's kind of where things are. Got it. And in terms of your year is always so back end weighted to the fourth quarter. Does that improved visibility reflect the outperformance in the second quarter? Or does it give us better visibility on the fourth quarter? Speaker 100:23:01That's a great question. It gives us better visibility on the fourth quarter. So I think we feel more comfortable, which is why we've increased guidance and given a better view into what we think the full year is going to look like. What we don't have currently baked into our visibility is really the buy up seasonality that we've seen in this business year over year in the fourth quarter, David. So we've not included that in the forecast or the guidance. Speaker 100:23:27And I think that's in line with our general sort of conservatism that we're going with here. So if you're, I know you know this business intimately. So we've not added any number for the fourth quarter into anything that we've shared nor will we. Think you you and Ed mentioned managed services and we all know the episodic nature of that and unpredictability. So as you look at the outperformance in revenue in the quarter, how much of that was managed services versus other areas of the business? Speaker 100:24:07Yes, we don't break it out, but I wouldn't look at it as in the quarter. I would look at it as in the first half. There's still some opportunistic managed service revenue coming in. We've taken that into account and what we've shared for the second half in terms of our restating and projection on the guidance, the increase. And so what's reflected in our increased guidance takes that into account. Speaker 100:24:30Ed, I don't know if there's anything else you'd want to say on that. Speaker 200:24:34Yeah, mean, it's clearly material, right? Material to an extent of changing the phasing or skewing the phasing of our revenue burn through the year. But certainly not material enough to be the vast majority or even the majority of our business. So it's certainly a number that's meaningful, but I wouldn't look at it as the key driver of Q2 performance. Speaker 100:25:01Got it. And just one other follow-up on the operating expenses. I know you said flat in dollars the balance of the year. Is there anything you can help us to understand as we think about, I mean, you did say you were comfortable with the revenue. I think I heard you right. Speaker 100:25:21You said revenue and margin for next year and consensus. How do you want us to think about the leverage in the business going forward? Any kind of signposts you can give us would be helpful. Ed, why don't you take that? Speaker 200:25:41Yeah. So I would say this year from an OpEx perspective is relatively big. So I would kind of utilize what you're seeing right now as a run rate. Going into next year, I would apply the typical merit increases, variable comp increases that come along with a growing business. As far as major investments are concerned, I think we can run this business with roughly the same headcount, probably to $150,000,000 in top line or thereabouts. Speaker 200:26:16So any additional investments will be more strategically oriented. That probably has to do with either investments in additional channels or technology expansion to continue to expand our portfolio of solutions. And those will be capitalized. Speaker 100:26:39Got it. All right, great. I guess the only other question really is a higher level one. Just what you're seeing out of pharma, it's been all over the board in terms of their results this quarter. They've got some regulatory headwinds they're dealing with. Speaker 100:26:58Is there any kind of flow through that you're seeing one way or another as you kind of talk to some of your larger pharma clients or is this all just kind of business as usual for the most part? Thanks, David. I mean, we're definitely seeing that pharma is more focused on efficient ways of driving revenue. And I think they're still digesting what's going on in the general regulatory environment, also with the White House and some of the potential changes there. So that the focus we're seeing there is looking for efficient ways to continue to communicate with patients and physicians and drive revenue and scripts. Speaker 400:27:36And Speaker 100:27:36we're lucky that we're in a good strategic position in terms of driving revenue in a very efficient cost effective way at scale with reach. And so what we're also seeing is as they're evaluating other players that are in the marketplace, when those players have a lower reach, less reach than we might or are less accurate can't prove out revenue, don't have the ability to provide reporting or insights. Pharma is very quickly moving past those businesses and moving on to businesses that can provide them the data and the analytics that they need to continue to invest. And so that's kind of a macro trend we're seeing across the board in digital and you can kind of see it in all the businesses that you guys follow. You'll start to see it more and more prominently. Speaker 100:28:21Right. Alright, guys. Good luck. Thanks again. Speaker 200:28:24Thank you. Thanks, David. Operator00:28:29Our next question comes from Jeff Garrow with Stephens Inc. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:28:36Yeah. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe follow-up on the last one on the macro environment and those trends that you discussed. Curious how much that's potentially leading to any pull forward of spend given the potential uncertainty looming around some of those topics? Speaker 700:28:56Then how those different trends that you discussed are impacting the early feel that you're getting on the selling season. It sounds like there's still a bit of energy and positive trend and indication at least towards OptimizeRx, would love to hear more on kind of how the environment impacted Q2 in the first half in terms of pull forward and then how it's impacting the go forward view for your customers? Speaker 100:29:27Thanks, Jeff. Yeah, we're not seeing any pull forward right now in terms of revenue that's coming in. We are seeing a willingness to engage in conversations a little bit earlier and make plans for the back half earlier, which I think is good. But our contracted revenue is very smooth in terms of what we would anticipate for the year. So not a traditional kind of spend the money now because we don't know what's going be there in the back half. Speaker 100:29:51We're not seeing any signs of that. And our commercial team continues to report back that second half they feel is steady as we've shared, as you've heard from Ed, myself and Andy. So nothing on the pull forward. Regarding the second part of your question around investment or looking at companies like OPRX, I think the most important thing they're looking for is the ability to continue to connect with doctors and with patients in a digital way that's efficient. And we are still one of the only players out there that can do it. Speaker 100:30:23We are arguably the only player that can really do it at scale across DTC and HCP. And I think they're starting to realize the economies of scale sit within this business. And so that's why you're seeing a longer term investment being made, I think in the business. Andy, you're tracking this very closely too. Let me put it over to you and have you add any color that you'd like. Speaker 300:30:46No, I think you really hit the nail on the head there, Steve. I don't think there's much of a pull forward at this point in time. I think pharma is really engaged with the digital channels. And I really think what's going on right now is you're seeing them move to higher ROI, more efficient channels. And there is some, you know, just risk with general trends from the new administration. Speaker 300:31:09But I think that's more affecting legacy ways of commercializing the business and is actually resulting in companies leaning forward more into digital. Speaker 700:31:23Excellent. Thanks for taking the questions, guys. Appreciate it. Congrats again. Speaker 100:31:26Yeah. Thank you. Thanks, Jeff. Thank you. Operator00:31:30This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Steve Silvestro for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:31:41Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us today. We're excited to be building our strong operational and financial momentum. Our foundation at OPRX is solid and we're confident in the path ahead. What you heard today makes us confident in our abilities to hit our short term and long term targets. And I remain very enthusiastic about the future of our business. Speaker 100:32:01We look forward to speaking with you again on our next call and to meeting many of you in the upcoming investor conferences and one on ones prior to the next earnings call. Have a wonderful evening, everybody. Thank you. Operator00:32:14Thank you, Mr. Sylvestro. Before we conclude today's call, I would like to provide the company's Safe Harbor statement that includes important cautions regarding forward looking statements made during today's call. Statements made by management during today's call may contain forward looking statements within the definition of Section 27A and the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Act of 1934, as amended. These forward looking statements should not be used to make investment decisions. Operator00:32:52The words anticipate, estimate, expect, possible, and seeking, and similar expressions identify forward looking statements. They may speak only to the date that such statements are made. Forward looking statements in this call include statements regarding our growth plans, plans for shareholder value creation, becoming a rule of 40 company, transitioning to a subscription based model, achieving our goal to help patients stay present throughout the patient care journey across our integrated HCP and DTC business, initiatives being implemented by new administration, cost management, targeted upselling, estimated 2025 revenue, and adjusted EBITDA ranges, estimation of total addressable market size, market penetration, technology, investments, growth opportunities, acquisitions, and upcoming announcements. Forward looking statements also include the management's expectations for the rest of the year. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements, whether because of new information, future events, or otherwise. Operator00:34:13Forward looking statements are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties, some of which cannot be predicted or quantified. Future events and actual results could differ materially from those set forth in, contemplated by, or underlying these forward looking statements. The risks and uncertainties to which forward looking statements are subject to include, but are not limited to, the effects of government regulation, competition, dependence on a concentrated group of customers, cybersecurity incidents that could disrupt operations, the ability to keep pace with growing and evolving technology, the ability to maintain contracts with electronic prescription platforms and electronic health records networks, and other material risks, Risks and uncertainties to which forward looking statements are subject could affect business and financial results are included in the company's annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended 12/31/2024, and in other filings the company has made and may make with the SEC in the future. These filings, when made, are available on the company's website and on the SEC website at sec.gov. Before we attend sorry, before we attend today's conference, I would like to remind everyone that an audio recording of this conference call will be available for replay starting later this evening, running through for a year on the Investors section of the company's website. Operator00:35:53Thank you for joining us today. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K) OptimizeRx Earnings HeadlinesOptimizeRx Reports Second Quarter 2025 Financial Results and Updates Fiscal Year 2025 GuidanceAugust 7 at 4:01 PM | globenewswire.comPaynela Appoints Healthcare Technology Veteran William Febbo to Board of DirectorsJuly 30, 2025 | finance.yahoo.com$100 Trillion “AI Metal” Found in American Ghost TownJeff Brown recently traveled to a ghost town in the middle of an American desert… To investigate what could be the biggest technology story of this decade. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining OptimizeRx's Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. We have with us today Chief Executive Officer, Steve Silvestro. He is joined by Chief Financial Officer, Ed Stelmak Chief Legal Officer, Marion Odensford and Senior Vice President of Corporate Finance, Andrew D'Silva. At the conclusion of today's call, I will provide some important cautions regarding the forward looking statements made by management during today's call. The company will also be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures, which it believes are useful in evaluating the company's operating results. Operator00:00:46A reconciliation of such non GAAP financial measures is included in the earnings release the company issued this afternoon, as well as in the Investor Relations section of the company's website. I would like to remind everyone that today's call is being recorded and will be made available for replay as an audio recording of this conference call on the Investor Relations section of the company's website. Now, I would like to turn the call over to OptimizeRx CEO, Steve Silvestro. Mr. Silvestro, please go ahead. Speaker 100:01:20Thank you, operator, and good afternoon to everyone joining today's second quarter twenty twenty five call. Overall, we had a strong 2025 with results ahead of both consensus estimates and our internal expectations. Recent momentum has continued with Q2 revenues increasing 55% year over year to $29,200,000 with adjusted EBITDA coming in at $5,800,000 an improvement of over $5,000,000 year over year. Moreover, our contracted revenue continues to increase to more than 30% year over year, which positions us favorably in the 2025. I believe this is a clear indicator that our focus on operational excellence while ensuring we delight our customers and forge stronger relationships with valued business partners is bearing fruit. Speaker 100:02:07Before moving on, I want to take a moment and thank our market leading team. We deeply appreciate the dedication and hard work of everyone at OptimizeRx as we navigate an increasingly complex, dynamic, and still emerging digital pharma marketplace. The industry is undergoing a significant shift and our products and services are poised to fundamentally reshape how pharmaceutical companies, patients and prescribers engage. Our mission driven culture not only fuels this transformation, but also positions us to attract, retain and strengthen the critical relationships a leading technology company needs to be a trusted and enduring partner. With that said, I'm happy to say we are increasing our guidance for the year and are looking for revenue to come in between $104,000,000 and $108,000,000 with adjusted EBITDA to be between $14,500,000 and $17,500,000 Moreover, while it's still very early, initial indications for 2026 appear promising. Speaker 100:03:03As a result, we feel comfortable with consensus current revenue and adjusted EBITDA projections for 2026. And we will give formal guidance as we get deeper into the 2026 RFP process. In addition, we paid down $4,500,000 of principal during the second quarter, which was $4,000,000 above our debt payment schedule. At this time, given the free cash flow we're seeing in our business, we intend on paying down our debt at an accelerated rate and don't believe we'll need to access the equity capital markets for the foreseeable future. As you can see, we certainly believe that we're hitting our stride. Speaker 100:03:38Our disciplined cost management and sharp cross selling strategies rooted in helping customers optimize budget allocation to drive script lift are fueling strong momentum heading into the 2025 and beyond. Our strong second quarter and first half results clearly show that the Rule of 40 performance is no longer a distant goal. It's firmly within our sites. Perhaps most notably, average revenue over the last twelve months for our largest five customers now stands at over $11,000,000 average. We believe OptimizeRx is uniquely positioned to drive meaningful value creation and deliver sustainable long term shareholder growth. Speaker 100:04:18Powered by one of the nation's largest point of care networks, we enable pharmaceutical manufacturers to reach healthcare providers directly when it matters most. Building on this powerful foundation, we've integrated a purpose built omni channel technology platform featuring advanced patient finding tools like DAP, micro neighborhood targeting, that are redefining how pharmaceutical companies, physicians and patients connect, communicate and act. This innovative approach is not only transforming engagement across the healthcare ecosystem, but also helping to improve patient outcomes. These advantages provide us with a durable and defensible competitive moat. With unmatched access to both the point of care and direct to consumer channels, we believe we are uniquely positioned in the market as the only player capable of engaging providers and patients at scale. Speaker 100:05:06This strategic positioning has enabled us to build the industry's most comprehensive and integrated solution set, allowing us to serve a broad range of customer needs across the full product lifecycle, drive deeper customer relationships, and capture greater share of long term value. As mentioned on previous calls, as our business continues to evolve, a key focus for the company will be drawing greater attention to our reach and scalability, while positioning ourselves as a strategic partner in addressing some of the most critical commercialization challenges facing pharma today. These include improving brand visibility, reducing script abandonment, enhancing interoperability, and supporting the growing shift toward more complex and costly specialty medications. I'm confident that success in these areas combined with the strong performance we are already delivering through the solutions that deliver high ROIs and strong script lift will drive significant shareholder value over time. Moreover, this momentum will position us to capture greater market share while also expanding the overall size of pharma's multibillion dollar digital spend. Speaker 100:06:07Our customers remain deeply embedded within our ecosystem of offerings, and it remains our goal to help them stay present through the patient care journey across the integrated HCP and DTC business. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CFO, Ed Stelmak, who'll walk us through the financial details. Ed? Speaker 200:06:26Thanks, Steve, and good afternoon, everyone. A press release was issued with the financial results of our second quarter ended 06/30/2025. A copy is available for viewing and may be downloaded from the Investor Relations section of our website, and additional information can be obtained through our forthcoming 10 Q. Second quarter revenue was $29,200,000 an increase of 55% from the $18,800,000 we recognized during the same period in 2024. Gross margin for this quarter increased from 62.2% in the quarter ended 06/30/2024, to 63.8% in the quarter ended 06/30/2025. Speaker 200:07:14Year on year gross margin expansion is tied to a favorable product mix, economies of scale, as well as a favorable channel partner mix. Our operating expenses for the quarter ended 06/30/2025, were essentially flat year over year at $15,400,000 despite the significant revenue growth we showed. We had a net income of $1,500,000 or $08 per basic and fully diluted share for the three months ended 06/30/2025, as compared to a net loss of $4,000,000 or $0.22 per basic and fully diluted share for the same three month period in 2024. On a non GAAP basis, our net income for the 2025 was $4,500,000 or $0.24 per fully diluted share outstanding, as compared to a non GAAP net income of $300,000 or $02 per fully diluted share outstanding in the same year ago period. Our adjusted EBITDA came in at $5,800,000 for the 2025, compared to $500,000 during the 2024. Speaker 200:08:39Operating cash flow was $8,400,000 for the 2025, and we ended the quarter with a $16,600,000 cash balance as compared to $13,400,000 on 12/31/2024. The remaining principal on our debt financing currently stands at 29,300,000.0 And we paid 4,500,000.0 in principal during the quarter, which was $4,000,000 ahead of our payment schedule. At this time, we intend to deploy at least a portion of our free cash flow to pay down the principal on our loan faster, as we look to continuously lower our cost of capital. With that said, we continue to believe that our healthy balance sheet will help us execute against our operational goals. Now, let's turn to our KPIs for the 2025. Speaker 200:09:43Average revenue per top 20 pharmaceutical manufacturer now stands at $3,100,000 Net revenue retention rate remained strong at 121%. Meanwhile, revenue per FTE came in at 767,000, topping the 658,000 we posted in Q2 twenty twenty four. We are encouraged by the continuing improvement in our KPIs, as we continue to execute against our strategy of driving profitable growth as a leader in our space. Now with that, I'll turn the call back over to Steve. Steve? Speaker 100:10:31Thanks, Ed. Operator, now let's move to q and a. Operator00:10:36Certainly. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. If you Speaker 300:10:45are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing Operator00:10:48the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then 2. Our first question comes from Richard Baldry with ROTH Capital. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:11:10Thanks. Congrats on an incredible quarter. So many things to ask, I'll try to narrow it. But last quarter you talked about your typical revenue cadence being 15% to 20% in Q1, 20% to 23% in Q2. If we look at what you've now done in the first half and use those cadences, revenues will come in sharply above even your increased guidance, be closer to $128,000,000 if you use the midpoints. Speaker 400:11:37Can you talk about whether there's anything one time in Q2, any outliers there that we need to pull away to make that cadence sort of more normalized? Or how do we think about that given the extraordinary upside you just did on the revenue number and earnings for that matter? Speaker 100:11:54Hey, Rich, thanks question. For Great to hear your voice. We did have in the 2025 a little bit of managed service revenue still in the revenues. And so what we're guiding to on the full year, we think is, again conservative but achievable. We're going to continue to hit that drumbeat of conservatism but not sandbagging but being conservative. Speaker 300:12:20So Speaker 100:12:25second half, I think we feel comfortable with our updated guidance. Ed, You'd Speaker 200:12:33I'll add a little bit to that. Hey, Risher. Yeah, so as Steve said, first half definitely had a little bit of managed service revenue that was above our expectation. Just so you know, managed service revenue typically is contracted for three to six months in duration. And it is something that comes a little bit as a surprise to us in terms of any upside or any extensions to existing contracts. Speaker 200:13:00So we typically don't forecast it in our numbers. And what you saw in Q2 is kind of exactly that phenomenon where we were surprised by a little bit higher managed service revenue than we had in Q1. But currently, don't expect that to continue into the second half. Speaker 400:13:22Got it. Then on the cost side, OpEx is basically flat despite revenues up 33% sequentially. And at some point, that can't be sustainable. How do we think about OpEx in the second half? Speaker 100:13:36Yeah, thanks. I think what we're trying to show in the model there, what we are showing in the model is operating leverage, Rich. So we made some pretty significant investments in the back half of last year and really in Q1 of this year to operationalize more of our technology. Part of what you're seeing on the OpEx there is a lack of need to add more to drive revenue. I think we are right now, we've got the team that we well above what we're currently looking at for 2025. Speaker 100:14:05So I don't expect that you'll see OpEx growing going into the back half of the year, although a need may come up, but we feel pretty good about the OpEx number. Speaker 200:14:15Just to add a little bit more color. Yes, so basically we are accruing for our current forecasted range as far as bonuses and variable comp. So, there's no kind of true up in the back end of the year. So, I would agree with Steve that you can expect roughly the same run rate in the second half as in the first half. Speaker 400:14:40Okay, then I'll try to make this maybe my last one, but the ARPU of your top 20 grew pretty strongly, but at the same time, they're a smaller percent of total revenue. So it fell from 66 to 59. So it argues that the rest of your non top 20 revenues are growing faster. Is that a function of faster logo ads do you think? Or is it a function of the ARPU for those non top 20 growing at an even faster pace? Speaker 400:15:08Thanks. Speaker 100:15:10Yeah, it's really a function of those under the top 20 starting to grow a little bit faster. And we had, I think we shared broadly on the last call, we had a couple of sort of midsize or smaller accounts start to join the ranks of some of the bigger larger top 10 that we've been mentioning, which we think we've been very encouraged by that. So the growth in the mid cap and small businesses is accelerating and we think that's going to continue to happen. So it's not that the top 10 is doing worse. In fact, the average revenue per top 10 continues to improve off of what we shared last time. Speaker 100:15:45So we're feeling pretty confident going into the back half. Great question. Thank you. Speaker 400:15:51Yes. So I always think I'm last, but let's do one last one. So if I did a rule of 40 on the quarter, I get 20% adjusted EBITDA and 55% growth for '75. And at some point that's almost a ludicrous number. So again, do you feel like the OpEx side needs to kind of grow at all quicker to keep up to this pace? Speaker 400:16:13Or I know it's a digital and scalable business, it's sort of hard to grow this fast sometimes without having Operator00:16:20to invest in the business. Speaker 100:16:22Yeah, Ed, I'll let you comment on Sure. That one Speaker 200:16:26Yeah, look, I mean, as we said, a one quarter phenomenon right now. We're not projecting anything near that growth rate for the year. I can tell you internally, we don't feel overly stretched or stressed by this kind of growth rate at all. So if it continues to grow even at half that rate, we feel like we're well staffed and equipped to handle the growth rate. Up to a certain point, obviously. Speaker 200:16:53It's not going to last forever, but certainly in the foreseeable future. Speaker 400:16:59Right. I'll leave it Congrats on an amazing quarter. Speaker 200:17:03Thank you. Speaker 100:17:03Thanks, Rich. Appreciate all the support. Operator00:17:08Our next question comes from Eric Mutnucci with Lake Street. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:17:15Yeah. I wanted to dive in on the contracted revenue being up 30% year on year. What can you tell us about the types of revenues that are contracted here? Are these pointed at the B2C? Are they at practitioners? Speaker 500:17:31The length of the campaigns? Are we talking a sixty day spend, a six month spend? Speaker 100:17:38Hey, Eric. Great to hear from you. I'll give a little bit of voiceover and then have Mandy chime in too. But contracted revenue right now is following the exact same product mix that it has in the past. So it's a blend of HCP and DTC business, both businesses growing at really solid rates. Speaker 100:17:58I think at this point in terms of revenue lines, we are seeing good growth in our audiences. So our DAP business continues to grow at a probably an outsized pace, which is good for us. We're not breaking apart as you know, DTC and NTP revenue we treated as one business now. So not gonna break that apart. But in terms of the quality of revenues, quality of contracted revenue specifically, it's as good as it's been. Speaker 100:18:24And we're feeling strong going into the back half. In terms of length of contracts, it's the same as it's been in the past. So nothing to report there in terms of multi year yet, although we're working on trying to lengthen those contract terms. Ed, anything you'd add? Speaker 200:18:43Yeah, I would just add that it's a broad based ramp up in contracted revenues faster than I've seen since I've been here. So certainly to me, it's a nice signal of adoption and appetite for what we bring to the market certainly in the current year. Speaker 500:19:04When you say broad based, you're talking about both top 20 and below top 20. Is that what you mean? Speaker 200:19:09Yeah, as you can see, you've got top five growing nicely, top 20, and then beyond that. Since we don't disclose the actual mix underneath the hood, both HCP and DCC sides of the business are performing really well. Speaker 500:19:28Got it. Thanks for taking my question. Sure. Speaker 100:19:33Good to hear from you, Our Operator00:19:38next question comes from Anderson Shock Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:19:45Hi. Thank you for taking the questions and congrats on a really impressive quarter. So I guess, could we just talk about the reduction in top 20 pharma revenue concentration? Are there better contract economics with mid tier pharma companies? And maybe do you have a target mix for this? Speaker 100:20:02Yeah. Andy, why don't we have you take that question? Speaker 300:20:06Yeah, I think it's just a function of opt efficiencies being taken place at smaller cap companies. Speaker 400:20:16So they're, you know, Speaker 300:20:17looking to to save wallet, and increase the ability to to market efficiently since they have less dollars to be able to spend. So our our technology is starting to be more proven, and so we're just seeing them start to adopt at a faster rate. But keep in mind, there's a lot more logos from the 20 to 100 mark and they're in the top 20. So while the dollars are less for a logo typically, they are growing at a faster rate and starting off at a smaller base, if that makes sense. Speaker 600:20:50Okay. That's helpful. And then on the last call, you reported 5% of projected annual revenue converted to the DAP subscription contracts. I guess, what percent of your revenue is now subscription based? And how should we think about the gross margin trajectory for the back half of the year as that subscription revenue continues to scale? Speaker 100:21:10Ed, why don't you take that one? Speaker 200:21:12Yes. So again, we don't break it out, but the 5% number currently still is valid. And right now, we have kind of a pipeline line of sight to about 10% for the year, assuming pipeline closes and converts. Speaker 600:21:30Okay, got it. Thank you for taking the questions, and congrats again on the quarter. Speaker 200:21:34Thank you. Speaker 100:21:35Thanks, Anderson. Operator00:21:38The next question comes from David Grossman with Stifel Financial. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:21:45Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. Just a couple of quick follow-up questions here to maybe some things that were asked. I think last quarter Steve you gave us a metric in terms of your visibility on the year compare at the March compared to March year. Can you do the same for us for the end of the June quarter? Speaker 100:22:09Yeah. Thanks, David. It's good to hear from you. We're not to give a number on contracted revenue other than to say at this point we're 30% or better than we were same time last year. So I think we're pretty confident in being able to share that. Speaker 100:22:25We're going to stop sharing an actual contracted revenue number. And you know that we're not sharing. We haven't been sharing a pipeline number throughout the year this year. So I would say what we shared with you last time still valid. Just think of that growing at a 30% clip or better. Speaker 100:22:40And that's kind of where things are. Got it. And in terms of your year is always so back end weighted to the fourth quarter. Does that improved visibility reflect the outperformance in the second quarter? Or does it give us better visibility on the fourth quarter? Speaker 100:23:01That's a great question. It gives us better visibility on the fourth quarter. So I think we feel more comfortable, which is why we've increased guidance and given a better view into what we think the full year is going to look like. What we don't have currently baked into our visibility is really the buy up seasonality that we've seen in this business year over year in the fourth quarter, David. So we've not included that in the forecast or the guidance. Speaker 100:23:27And I think that's in line with our general sort of conservatism that we're going with here. So if you're, I know you know this business intimately. So we've not added any number for the fourth quarter into anything that we've shared nor will we. Think you you and Ed mentioned managed services and we all know the episodic nature of that and unpredictability. So as you look at the outperformance in revenue in the quarter, how much of that was managed services versus other areas of the business? Speaker 100:24:07Yes, we don't break it out, but I wouldn't look at it as in the quarter. I would look at it as in the first half. There's still some opportunistic managed service revenue coming in. We've taken that into account and what we've shared for the second half in terms of our restating and projection on the guidance, the increase. And so what's reflected in our increased guidance takes that into account. Speaker 100:24:30Ed, I don't know if there's anything else you'd want to say on that. Speaker 200:24:34Yeah, mean, it's clearly material, right? Material to an extent of changing the phasing or skewing the phasing of our revenue burn through the year. But certainly not material enough to be the vast majority or even the majority of our business. So it's certainly a number that's meaningful, but I wouldn't look at it as the key driver of Q2 performance. Speaker 100:25:01Got it. And just one other follow-up on the operating expenses. I know you said flat in dollars the balance of the year. Is there anything you can help us to understand as we think about, I mean, you did say you were comfortable with the revenue. I think I heard you right. Speaker 100:25:21You said revenue and margin for next year and consensus. How do you want us to think about the leverage in the business going forward? Any kind of signposts you can give us would be helpful. Ed, why don't you take that? Speaker 200:25:41Yeah. So I would say this year from an OpEx perspective is relatively big. So I would kind of utilize what you're seeing right now as a run rate. Going into next year, I would apply the typical merit increases, variable comp increases that come along with a growing business. As far as major investments are concerned, I think we can run this business with roughly the same headcount, probably to $150,000,000 in top line or thereabouts. Speaker 200:26:16So any additional investments will be more strategically oriented. That probably has to do with either investments in additional channels or technology expansion to continue to expand our portfolio of solutions. And those will be capitalized. Speaker 100:26:39Got it. All right, great. I guess the only other question really is a higher level one. Just what you're seeing out of pharma, it's been all over the board in terms of their results this quarter. They've got some regulatory headwinds they're dealing with. Speaker 100:26:58Is there any kind of flow through that you're seeing one way or another as you kind of talk to some of your larger pharma clients or is this all just kind of business as usual for the most part? Thanks, David. I mean, we're definitely seeing that pharma is more focused on efficient ways of driving revenue. And I think they're still digesting what's going on in the general regulatory environment, also with the White House and some of the potential changes there. So that the focus we're seeing there is looking for efficient ways to continue to communicate with patients and physicians and drive revenue and scripts. Speaker 400:27:36And Speaker 100:27:36we're lucky that we're in a good strategic position in terms of driving revenue in a very efficient cost effective way at scale with reach. And so what we're also seeing is as they're evaluating other players that are in the marketplace, when those players have a lower reach, less reach than we might or are less accurate can't prove out revenue, don't have the ability to provide reporting or insights. Pharma is very quickly moving past those businesses and moving on to businesses that can provide them the data and the analytics that they need to continue to invest. And so that's kind of a macro trend we're seeing across the board in digital and you can kind of see it in all the businesses that you guys follow. You'll start to see it more and more prominently. Speaker 100:28:21Right. Alright, guys. Good luck. Thanks again. Speaker 200:28:24Thank you. Thanks, David. Operator00:28:29Our next question comes from Jeff Garrow with Stephens Inc. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:28:36Yeah. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe follow-up on the last one on the macro environment and those trends that you discussed. Curious how much that's potentially leading to any pull forward of spend given the potential uncertainty looming around some of those topics? Speaker 700:28:56Then how those different trends that you discussed are impacting the early feel that you're getting on the selling season. It sounds like there's still a bit of energy and positive trend and indication at least towards OptimizeRx, would love to hear more on kind of how the environment impacted Q2 in the first half in terms of pull forward and then how it's impacting the go forward view for your customers? Speaker 100:29:27Thanks, Jeff. Yeah, we're not seeing any pull forward right now in terms of revenue that's coming in. We are seeing a willingness to engage in conversations a little bit earlier and make plans for the back half earlier, which I think is good. But our contracted revenue is very smooth in terms of what we would anticipate for the year. So not a traditional kind of spend the money now because we don't know what's going be there in the back half. Speaker 100:29:51We're not seeing any signs of that. And our commercial team continues to report back that second half they feel is steady as we've shared, as you've heard from Ed, myself and Andy. So nothing on the pull forward. Regarding the second part of your question around investment or looking at companies like OPRX, I think the most important thing they're looking for is the ability to continue to connect with doctors and with patients in a digital way that's efficient. And we are still one of the only players out there that can do it. Speaker 100:30:23We are arguably the only player that can really do it at scale across DTC and HCP. And I think they're starting to realize the economies of scale sit within this business. And so that's why you're seeing a longer term investment being made, I think in the business. Andy, you're tracking this very closely too. Let me put it over to you and have you add any color that you'd like. Speaker 300:30:46No, I think you really hit the nail on the head there, Steve. I don't think there's much of a pull forward at this point in time. I think pharma is really engaged with the digital channels. And I really think what's going on right now is you're seeing them move to higher ROI, more efficient channels. And there is some, you know, just risk with general trends from the new administration. Speaker 300:31:09But I think that's more affecting legacy ways of commercializing the business and is actually resulting in companies leaning forward more into digital. Speaker 700:31:23Excellent. Thanks for taking the questions, guys. Appreciate it. Congrats again. Speaker 100:31:26Yeah. Thank you. Thanks, Jeff. Thank you. Operator00:31:30This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Steve Silvestro for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:31:41Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us today. We're excited to be building our strong operational and financial momentum. Our foundation at OPRX is solid and we're confident in the path ahead. What you heard today makes us confident in our abilities to hit our short term and long term targets. And I remain very enthusiastic about the future of our business. Speaker 100:32:01We look forward to speaking with you again on our next call and to meeting many of you in the upcoming investor conferences and one on ones prior to the next earnings call. Have a wonderful evening, everybody. Thank you. Operator00:32:14Thank you, Mr. Sylvestro. Before we conclude today's call, I would like to provide the company's Safe Harbor statement that includes important cautions regarding forward looking statements made during today's call. Statements made by management during today's call may contain forward looking statements within the definition of Section 27A and the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Act of 1934, as amended. These forward looking statements should not be used to make investment decisions. Operator00:32:52The words anticipate, estimate, expect, possible, and seeking, and similar expressions identify forward looking statements. They may speak only to the date that such statements are made. Forward looking statements in this call include statements regarding our growth plans, plans for shareholder value creation, becoming a rule of 40 company, transitioning to a subscription based model, achieving our goal to help patients stay present throughout the patient care journey across our integrated HCP and DTC business, initiatives being implemented by new administration, cost management, targeted upselling, estimated 2025 revenue, and adjusted EBITDA ranges, estimation of total addressable market size, market penetration, technology, investments, growth opportunities, acquisitions, and upcoming announcements. Forward looking statements also include the management's expectations for the rest of the year. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements, whether because of new information, future events, or otherwise. Operator00:34:13Forward looking statements are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties, some of which cannot be predicted or quantified. Future events and actual results could differ materially from those set forth in, contemplated by, or underlying these forward looking statements. The risks and uncertainties to which forward looking statements are subject to include, but are not limited to, the effects of government regulation, competition, dependence on a concentrated group of customers, cybersecurity incidents that could disrupt operations, the ability to keep pace with growing and evolving technology, the ability to maintain contracts with electronic prescription platforms and electronic health records networks, and other material risks, Risks and uncertainties to which forward looking statements are subject could affect business and financial results are included in the company's annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended 12/31/2024, and in other filings the company has made and may make with the SEC in the future. These filings, when made, are available on the company's website and on the SEC website at sec.gov. Before we attend sorry, before we attend today's conference, I would like to remind everyone that an audio recording of this conference call will be available for replay starting later this evening, running through for a year on the Investors section of the company's website. Operator00:35:53Thank you for joining us today. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by