Hudson Global Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Third consecutive quarter of year-over-year growth, with Q2 adjusted net revenue up 5.1% and adjusted EBITDA rising to $1.3M from $0.7M.
  • Positive Sentiment: Asia Pacific delivered 17% adjusted net revenue growth and boosted adjusted EBITDA to $1.9M, driven by a rebound in financial sector hiring.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Invested $1.4M above maintenance in sales, marketing, and technology to enhance operations and support future growth.
  • Positive Sentiment: Expanded global footprint through strategic acquisitions, including Alpha Consulting Group in Japan and integration of Mackenzie CMO Group for recruitment marketing services.
  • Positive Sentiment: Pending merger with Star Equity set for August 21 vote, expected to drive scale, revenue diversification, and cost synergies.
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Hudson Global Q2 2025
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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Hudson Global Conference Call for the 2025. Our call today will be led by Chief Executive Officer, Jeff Eberwein Chief Financial Officer, Matt Diamond and Global CEO of Hudson RPO, Jake Zapkowitz. Please be advised that the statements made during the presentation include forward looking statements under applicable securities laws. Such forward looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward looking statements. These risks are discussed in our Form eight ks filed earlier today and in our other filings made with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our quarterly report on Form 10 Q.

Operator

The company disclaims any obligation to update any forward looking statements. During the course of this conference call, references will be made to non GAAP terms such as constant currency, adjusted EBITDDA, and adjusted earnings per diluted share. Reconciliations for these measures are included in our earnings release and quarterly slides, both posted on our website, hudsonrpo.com. I encourage you to access our earnings materials at this time as they will serve as a helpful reference guide during our call. Please note, this conference is being recorded.

Operator

I will now turn the call over to Jeff Eberwein. Go ahead, please.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Thank you, operator, and welcome, everyone. We thank you for your interest in Hudson Global and for joining us today. I'll start by reviewing our second quarter twenty twenty five results. Then Matt Diamond, our CFO, will provide some additional details on our financials. Lastly, Jake Zabkowitz, Global CEO of our RPO business, will provide an update on that business.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

For the 2025, we reported revenue of $35,500,000 down slightly year over year in constant currency, while adjusted net revenue of $18,600,000 increased by 5.1% year over year in constant currency. Our adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter was $1,300,000 improving from adjusted EBITDA of $700,000 a year ago. In addition, we reported a net loss of $700,000 or $0.23 per diluted share versus a net loss of $400,000 or $0.15 per diluted share in the same period last year. On an adjusted basis, Q2 twenty twenty five adjusted net income per share was $0.12 compared to net income of $04 in the second quarter of last year. Importantly, Q2 twenty twenty five marks the third consecutive quarter of year over year growth in adjusted net revenue and adjusted EBITDA, which makes us believe the business has turned the corner.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Growth was stronger in Q2 than this year's first quarter, and we expect this trend to continue through the end of the year and into 2026. While the macro environment for talent remains mixed, we see plenty of opportunities ahead, and we continue to make investments in our business to better support our clients' needs and streamline operations. Altogether, in the 2025, we invested approximately $1,400,000 in sales, marketing and technology above maintenance levels to enhance future growth. Our growth strategy remains focused on organic expansion, targeted bolt on acquisitions, and cross regional service integration initiatives designed to broaden our client base, extend our geographic footprint, and unlock additional value for our clients. Now, I'll turn the call over to Matt Diamond to review our financial results by region, as well as some additional financial details from the second quarter.

Matt Diamond
Matt Diamond
CFO at Hudson Global

Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. Q2 twenty twenty five revenue for our Americas business increased 2%, and adjusted net revenue decreased 1% year over year in constant currency. We reported Q2 twenty twenty five adjusted EBITDA of $700,000 compared to last year's adjusted EBITDA of $600,000 Q2 twenty twenty five revenue for our Asia Pacific business decreased 3%, while adjusted net revenue increased 17% year over year in constant currency. This is largely due to a shift in revenue mix, with temporary contracting work comprising a lower share of revenue in the quarter. In Q2 twenty twenty five, we reported adjusted EBITDA of $1,900,000 up from adjusted EBITDA of $800,000 a year ago.

Matt Diamond
Matt Diamond
CFO at Hudson Global

Q2 twenty twenty five revenue for our EMEA business increased 6% versus the prior year in constant quarter in constant currency, while adjusted net revenue decreased 9%. Our Q2 twenty twenty five adjusted EBITDA loss was $400,000 compared to adjusted EBITDA of $300,000 in the 2024. Turning to some additional financial details for the quarter. Overall, days sales outstanding was fifty six days at 06/30/2025, unchanged versus DSO at 03/31/2025. The company had an inflow of $100,000 in cash flow from operations during the 2025, compared to $4,300,000 of an outflow from operations in the 2024.

Matt Diamond
Matt Diamond
CFO at Hudson Global

We ended the second quarter with $17,500,000 in cash, including $700,000 of restricted cash. In connection with our acquisition activity in recent years, our balance sheet as of 06/30/2025, reflects $5,800,000 of goodwill and $2,000,000 of net amortizable intangible assets. The company's working capital, excluding cash, was 12,200,000.0 slightly above year end 2024. I'll now turn the call over to Jake to discuss our RPO business.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

Thank you, Matt, and good morning.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

Although we continue to face challenges similar to those experienced in 2024, many of which are industry wide, we are encouraged by clear signs of improvement. The overall increase in adjusted net revenue in the 2025 reflects the modest but meaningful recovery in business activity, particularly across APAC region. Thanks to proactive steps we have taken and continue to take, our business is better positioned for growth today than ever before. Year to date, we continue to make strategic hires aimed at deepening our capabilities and enhancing our ability to deliver scalable, high impact talent solutions to our clients. As I mentioned in previous earnings call, a major investment for us is in our digital platform, Hudson Fusion, and we are building out the team to support the product with our clients.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

We also recently executed two important strategic transactions, the acquisition of Alpha Consulting Group, a Japan based recruitment services provider, marking our formal entry into the Japanese market, and the integration of Mackenzie's CMO Group, a boutique firm specializing in recruitment marketing, brand strategy and talent engagement. These developments reinforce our commitment to investing in high impact areas that deliver long term value to our clients and our shareholders. Additionally, we are encouraged by continued new business wins and a robust sales pipeline. We believe that we are well positioned to convert this pipeline into tangible results and capture new opportunities as the market conditions improve. In line with our first quarter momentum, we continue to execute on our land and expand strategy throughout Q2, focusing on expanding our geographical reach and broadening our service offerings to both existing and prospective clients alike.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

As a result, we secured approximately $31,100,000 in adjusted net revenue from renewals and expansions at existing clients approximately $11,400,000 from new logo wins over the prior four quarters. Our talented team is well positioned to deliver exceptional results and we remain focused on building a more resilient, agile and growth orientated business for the long term. I'll now turn the call back over to Jeff for some closing remarks.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Thank you, Jake. Before we open the line for questions, I want to reinforce Jake's message. While we continue to navigate a challenging global environment, we believe Hudson RPO is well positioned for strong future growth and is poised to outperform its peers. The operational improvements we have made across the organization are expected to strengthen our bottom line performance in the coming quarters and drive long term value for our shareholders. Finally, I'd like to remind you that the special meetings to approve the merger with Star Equity, announced in May 2025, is scheduled for August 21.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

We strongly encourage all shareholders to vote for the merger. We expect the new entity to deliver significant value through greater scale, enhanced revenue diversification, and the elimination of redundant public company and overhead costs. Operator, can you please open the line for questions?

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. The keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Michael Mathison of Sidoti and Company. Go ahead please.

Michael Mathison
Analyst at Sidoti & Company

Good morning, you guys. Congratulations on the quarter.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Good morning.

Michael Mathison
Analyst at Sidoti & Company

Turning to some of my questions, it was an interesting quarter by region. Let's kind of decompose a couple of things. Let's start with Asia, that's 60% of your business. Net revenue in Asia was up 16%. So what led to those much higher margins?

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Yeah, I'll turn this over to Jake, but just mathematically the biggest thing I would say is that revenue was very depressed. Last year we saw a significant slowdown in hiring in financials companies that we do business with in the financial sector. And so the biggest statement I would make is that things started to return to normal in that sector in Asia Pac, let's say the end of last year. And so the Q2 results reflect more of just a return to normal. And when looking at it on a year over year basis, the biggest thing I would say is just last year was a depressed number.

Michael Mathison
Analyst at Sidoti & Company

Got it. Okay, favorable comps, great. Well, let's turn to the Americas region next then, roughly 20% of sales, 22%. Your revenue was up even though it made the headlines big time, just what a terrible quarter it was in the American Jobs Report. To what do you attribute the discrepancy?

Michael Mathison
Analyst at Sidoti & Company

Are you just selectively in sectors that are doing well or just the balance and mix of your business?

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Well, we do think we're gaining share. Jake, you want to provide some additional detail on that?

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

Yes, Jeff, of course, and good morning. I think in The Americas, are actually three things that have really worked for us this last quarter. One is our new logo sales. We started to see an increase in the clients that we've implemented and that is contributing to our top end revenue growth, which is really exciting because we have that new logo sales pipeline is continuing to grow. But also that land and expand strategy, looking at how are we offering different products into different regions and the different geographies and we're seeing that pick up as well and which we will continue to build out over the next couple of quarters.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

But really, the growth has been the new level sales wins as well as that land and expand with some of our existing accounts and existing partners, expanding their services within The Americas.

Michael Mathison
Analyst at Sidoti & Company

Great, great. Well, let's look at Europe then. In some ways, that was the most striking out performance. Europe has been very flat economically, you were up 6% in constant currency. Anything that would explain that outperformance?

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Go ahead, Jake.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

Yes, another great question. Europe, we've really taken a turn in Europe right now and we're seeing some traction with our investments in The Middle East, which has been a long waiting for us to see that. So it's really good to see that revenue come in the door, but also too, the team has done a really good job of that land and expand and we're offering different products to our partners. We're seeing an uptick in our boutique executive search in the European theater, which is nice as well. So, I'd look at the overall broader market and while there's still a lot of questions and some considerations and I'd say headwinds, the changes that we've made over the last, say twelve months has really positioned us to continue to grow across all of the regions and we're starting to see some of that pick up.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Great. Mike, I would just say just big picture. We see our base, our legacy clients returning to more normal activity levels after going through a period of depressed activity levels. Hopefully the overall market will improve going forward, not counting on that, but we're winning new clients at a faster rate than we have historically, so that's exciting. And then we have three new regions that we never had before.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

The Middle East, as of about eighteen months ago, went from nothing to now starting to get traction, starting to get revenue. We're building a business in Latin America and starting to see revenue there and starting to see some client wins there. And then this recent acquisition in Japan, we have many, I would say, global clients. And historically, whenever they've needed help in Japan, unfortunately, we had to say, sorry, can't help you there. And now we can help them.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

And we've got a team on the ground that's very experienced, and we're really hoping that that acquisition is one plus one equals three, where we get immediate business just from our existing clients that we haven't been able to service in Japan historically.

Michael Mathison
Analyst at Sidoti & Company

Great. Kind of turning to just more corporate development issues, you mentioned that you'll be I'll use the word integration because you used it integrating the Mackenzie CMO Group. You were careful not to say mergers, so could you explain a little bit what that means?

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Go ahead, Jake.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

Yeah, so the Mackenzie CMO Group is really a boutique firm in The US that specializes around brand and marketing and employment brand, as well as having a pretty robust contingent and project practice. So over the last couple months, we looked at speaking with the owner, Crystal McKenzie, and how can we further look at a deal where it makes sense for the team to join Hudson. So Crystal and team officially joined Hudson as team members this quarter, and we're integrating that business into our overall product portfolio. So from a standpoint of looking at that, strengthening our capabilities and that brand marketing to our existing clients, as well as taking that contingent base that her company has had, and hopefully looking at further landing and expanding into different geographies and different products there. So it wasn't, to your point, call out an acquisition, but more of a, hey, let's figure out a way to integrate and hire the team to help drive our overall strategy and growth in the Americas market.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Okay. This is Jeff again. What that looks like in dollars and cents is that instead of paying X amount for the business, what we did is we hired the team. There were some modest sign on bonuses, and then there's a profit sharing arrangement. So it looks and feels like an acquisition, but technically we just hired the whole team. And so they became Hudson.

Michael Mathison
Analyst at Sidoti & Company

Great. Got it. Well, thank you. That runs me out of questions. Congratulations again on the quarter.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Thank you, Michael.

Operator

Our next question comes from David Siegfried, a Private Investor. Go ahead please.

Analyst

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my call. So the ACG acquisition, is that something that would be immediately accretive to the bottom line? Go ahead, Jake.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

David, great question. And just can you I thought you muffled a little bit. Can you just repeat your question for me, if you don't mind?

Analyst

Oh, yes. So that ACG acquisition, would that is that immediately accretive to the bottom line?

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

Yeah, we expect we do expect some immediate revenue and growth in the region. So we did that was a formal acquisition. We went through all the purchase, the asset purchase agreements with ACG and we expect to see immediate revenue with their current base as well as landing and expanding our base in the Asia Pac region. As you know, a good portion of our business is in Asia Pac. And as Jeff mentioned earlier, we were supporting our clients that had needs in Japan from outside of Japan.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

Now with the ACG acquisition, we have a robust team in Japan delivering on local services, which is a must need given that Japan is the second largest market in the Asia Pac region. So, we do expect immediate revenue, we do expect the team to pick up and like I said before, it's a very strategic move for us you know, as a leader in the Asia Pac region, you know, to have that localized presence in the Japanese market.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

I think that David, think the technical answer to your question is on the bottom line, no major impact on day one. Their business was struggling to get to scale, so they had revenue, they had a team, they were delivering service, but they didn't have a historical record of being consistently profitable and were in a business where to grow it hits your bottom line immediately. And so it's a tough business to break into. So at the time we closed the acquisition, they were roughly breakeven as a business. So our best estimate is that it'll be, from a bottom line point of view, roughly breakeven for a quarter or two, and then it'll be a meaningful profit generator thereafter.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

And we paid a very modest amount upfront, just a few $100,000, and we worked out a profit sharing arrangement for when they do turn the corner and start generating profits. So we look at it as a win win. They're going to be They're gonna have much more revenue as part of Hudson than they would have staying on their own.

Analyst

Good, yeah. And so that McKenzie Group acquisition or merger was very similar to the structure that you had in The Middle East a year and a half ago.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Exactly. Exactly.

Analyst

Pretty much just brought the talent on.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Exactly.

Analyst

So there's no deal.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

The Middle East is we've been really trying to grow The Middle East and hiring salespeople, building the team. So it has been EBITDA negative over the last year, and we think it's right on the cusp of turning the corner. And it's just the way the accounting works in our business, you know, investments immediately hit the bottom line. They don't get capitalized the way, a factory would be or buying assets. We're really just hiring people, which costs money in the short term, then you hit a period where it's breakeven, and then thereafter it should be profitable if we're making good decisions.

Analyst

Yeah, good. And then there was no deals for a year and a half and now two deals in a short period of time. Is that just because where you're at in the business cycle, it just makes sense? Is that something that can continue this type of deal flow?

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Well, we're always looking. We have learned a lot by just being in the market and looking, and it's helped us refine what's a good fit and what's not. Our preference is to hire and grow organically rather than acquire, but we're open to either. And I would say we don't have to do anything at this point. We have filled in the last major geographic hole we had in our portfolio with Japan.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

And so it's hard to think about any significant market in the world that we can't address. And so that was a really critical step for us. There's really no such thing as being half global. You either need to be a regional player or a global player, and if you're a global player, you have to be able to serve clients in all the major markets. So that was a very important box that we checked.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

And the McKinsey CMO group, know, those were skill sets that we didn't have so much internally, and so if a client needed help with those things, we would typically partner with someone or advise them on who they could hire. But now that we can do that in house, it just gives us a bigger suite of services we can offer. And one of Jake's big themes over the last eighteen months since he's been here is increased share of wallet with existing clients. So we have some phenomenal clients, and in many cases, our share of wallet is really, really small, and it's never easy to grow, but it is easier to grow with an existing client than it is to land a new client. So we're pushing on all fronts, and it's nice to see that effort start to have some results.

Analyst

Yeah, excellent. I agree. I was looking at the trailing twelve month new logo wins. I mean, those are growing, So that's really good to see. How's the Hudson Fusion, the AI rollout in Europe going?

Analyst

How's that being accepted by customers? And how does that measure up to other like your competitors? David, great Yeah,

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

great question, David. And we're really excited about the development of Hudson Fusion. It's what the team is doing, right? So Hudson Fusion is our proprietary tools that we're giving we're providing to both our current base as well as existing. And we are just in the infancy stages of launching it.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

So we have a couple of clients that are using it right now. They're using our Talent IQ platform, which is underneath the Hudson Fusion umbrella, which is our market insights. And over the next couple of months and quarters, expect to see significant adoption, again, both in our existing base as well as in new logos. Good news is from our standpoint is, now that we have a product offering and have a digital offering that we didn't have before, it's very easy equation to our clients and introduction to our clients because all clients now specifically in HR field, right, there's a there's a big pressure to automate digitized and you'd leverage AI as part of the processes. And so having this tool now, you know, we see we see great signs of adoption and also being able to sell into our new logos and into our existing base.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

So more to come there and as we get further adoption, David, we will be sharing that, but it is a unique differentiator across the board. Regarding how it differentiates from our competitors, listen AI, there's a lot of different forms of AI and the bespoke way that we're taking it is a modular approach in that we want to be able to solve our clients' problems and not fit a square peg into a round hole, right? But truly a customized approach in that regard. And we definitely seeing that with some of the new clients that are coming on that platform. So more to come.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

And I think that AI is definitely going to continue to transform our business. I must say that Hudson and what we're doing right now with this investment is going to be a key player in that.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

And Dave, I would just add that our digital division, which we just launched in the spring with the hiring of Steph Edwards, is probably the most important thing we've done recently as a company, and it's the number one thing our clients talk about, and this suite of services and tools that we're rolling out is something that existing clients are going to adopt. It's something we have to have in order to win new business and to win new logos. And we only have one data point, but just recently, it was exciting to me, we have a client we've been speaking to that's actually going to start a relationship with us by using our digital services. So this is the first time ever we've led with digital, and the way we got a foot in the door was with Hudson Fusion, and they're going to start using that, and then we hope it will lead to more business with this client. They could eventually become an RPO client, for example.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

But that's just kind of icing on the cake when we launched our digital division. We weren't expecting that clients would want digital only to start a relationship, but that could be a great way for us to just get a foot in the door with new clients, and once we have a foot in the door, our team is pretty good about expanding the relationship over time.

Analyst

Good to hear. That's nice. What will be your capital allocation priorities assuming the merger with Star goes through? What will be use of cash? Because there's still a nice amount on the balance sheet.

Analyst

So what are you going to do with that going forward?

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Yeah, so the number one priority is make profitable investments in our existing businesses. I think all the businesses have organic growth opportunities, and in some cases those require some capital investment. So funding growth at existing businesses is, I would say, the number one priority. Number two priority is we have some really great operating management teams as evidenced by Jake at Hudson. And so if there are bolt on acquisitions to do or acquisitions like the two we just announced.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

I would say that's kind of priority number two. And then we think our shares are really cheap. We have a long history of buying back shares. We haven't been able to do much of that in the last eighteen months because of the merger discussions, but that's something we hope to turn back on after the merger closes.

Analyst

Good. And that's a question because I noticed the merger information looks like the talks of this merger started December 2023. So why is it taking so long? We're two small companies. I'm not complaining, I'm just asking, you know.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Yeah, no, it's a good question. If you read all the disclosure and the proxy, the idea was kind of launched, as you said, in late twenty twenty three. The two companies formed a special committee evaluate it, independent special committee. I obviously wasn't involved in either special committee nor was management of either company. So very independent, they hired financial advisors, legal advisors, and started talking to each other, and they just couldn't agree on terms in the 2024.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

So they decided to pause. Star ended up doing pretty significant acquisition in May 2024. And then the timing just lined up. The two companies started talking again in late twenty twenty four, and which is what led to the deal announcement in May 2025. But I think the biggest takeaway from that is we have independent directors on each board who take their fiduciary duty very, very seriously and wanted to do a thorough analysis and make the best decision they could on behalf of shareholders.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

And it took a while for it to come together.

Analyst

Yeah. No, that's reasonable. So looking at that merger information, you're guiding for like 13% revenue, net revenue growth, twenty twenty five, 26, 26% growth and potentially 17% to 18% growth over the next five years from that point. So, it appears after listening to the call today, that even without necessarily economic improvement or increase in hiring, just with your new logo wins, your expansion to other territories, Japan and all that, that you feel confident that you can continue to grow this significantly going forward.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Yeah, I'll let Jake address that, and I would just say thing about a long range forecast is we don't factor in recessions, but we also don't factor in booms like what we had coming out of COVID. It's more of, hey, if you just have a regular mid cycle economic environment where the global economy is growing at a historical rate, 2% or something like that in real terms, what should we be able to do? And you can tell we're excited about our future, but Jake, why don't you address that a little bit more specifically because that's your forecast.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

Thanks Jeff and David, great question. If I look at where we were eighteen months ago, we've made a lot of different investments and different levers that we can pull and we can offer to our clients, right, as we want to continue to grow and need to continue to grow no matter what the market conditions looks like. So yes, the macro economy does have a significant impact lately it's been headwinds facing us with the a lot announcements and changes. However, being able to offer different services into The Middle East and Japan and Latin America, being able to offer new products such as boutique executive search, EVP and branded marketing, contingent search allows us to be able to become more diverse and more robust with our clients and that goes to our land and expand strategy. So even though yes, the macro economy does have and has been giving us a lot of headwinds, our strategy is with the diversification is allowing us to continue to pull on different levers with our partners to grow and expand and increase that share of wallet.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

And we have a lot of opportunities with our current base to continue to do that. Obviously with the focus on new logo clients in the same purview to help drive our overall growth strategy. So David, yes, we have become more robust, more diversified and that is allowing us to continue to grow and hopefully grow even faster when the broader market and the economy does rebound.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

And I would just further on that, what really made us aggressively recruit Jake and convince him to join Hudson was we saw in him someone who was at Korn Ferry RPO. Korn Ferry just started breaking out their RPO results separately recently, and if you look at those results, can see that Korn Ferry's RPO business generates about $100,000,000 a quarter in revenue. Jake was there when they were generating $40,000,000 a year in revenue, and so he was a part of the team that grew from $40,000,000 in revenue to $400,000,000 in revenue on an annual basis. And so he's seen firsthand what it takes to grow, what it takes to build. And it's never easy, but we think under Jake's leadership, we're incredibly well positioned to have a really good growth rate going forward.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

He knows what it takes to win, and that's what we're out to achieve.

Analyst

Yeah, good to hear. So Jake, when you look at, I think you were ten years at Korn Ferry, if you look at where you're at in the cycle or in this process so far with Hudson, I are we I think you're starting out at a lower point of revenue run rate, but I mean, do you see the pieces coming together here?

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

David, great question. And everything that we've been doing for the last say twenty months since I've been here was again focused on growth. And that is our guiding principle and creating values for our clients and our shareholders and our employees, right? And we've gone through a lot of change and went through a couple acquisitions and integrations. We've hired new leadership, right?

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

We've promoted existing leaders in their business that have been with us for many, many years to give them different challenges and capabilities and skills. We've gone through and we've really looked at how do we increase our share of wallet, but maintaining that operational excellence with our clients. And what impresses me about with our team is throughout all of this change, right, we're still delivering to our clients at a very, very high caliber and that's a true testament to our leaders in our overall business. Not to mention offering new products, right? So, know, it's not fair to compare the two, but if you think about where we are and where we are, our run rate here at Hudson, we have a significant run rate in front of us, if we can continue to drive that land and expand strategy, offer different products that our clients are asking for, And being able to provide that at the same quality, if not better than what we've been historically known, being able to know what to do.

Jake Zabkowicz
Jake Zabkowicz
Global CEO - Hudson RPO at Hudson Global

So very excited about the run rate. I think that we have a lot of opportunities and options at the table in front of us right now.

Analyst

Yeah, excellent. Well, thank you for taking my questions. Absolutely, David. Good question, thanks.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jeff Eberwein for any closing remarks.

Jeffrey Eberwein
Jeffrey Eberwein
CEO & Director at Hudson Global

Well, you for joining us today. Thank you for your interest in Hudson. You can tell that we're very excited about our future and we look forward to future quarters and showing our future results. Have a great day.

Executives
    • Jeffrey Eberwein
      Jeffrey Eberwein
      CEO & Director
    • Matt Diamond
      Matt Diamond
      CFO
    • Jake Zabkowicz
      Jake Zabkowicz
      Global CEO - Hudson RPO
Analysts