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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Ispire Technology EPS ResultsActual EPSN/AConsensus EPS -$0.14Beat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AIspire Technology Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$41.60 millionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AIspire Technology Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2025Date9/25/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateN/AConference Call TimeN/AConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Ispire Technology Q4 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrSeptember 16, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Negative Sentiment: Revenue for fiscal 2025 fell from $151.9 million to $127.5 million, driven by the intentional pivot away from the cannabis sector. Positive Sentiment: The company achieved $10.2 million in annual cost savings, reducing net accounts receivable by over 21% and cutting general and administrative expenses by $0.9 million quarter-over-quarter. Positive Sentiment: Expansion of Malaysian manufacturing is underway, scaling from six to up to 80 production lines to diversify production and meet global precision vaping demand. Positive Sentiment: ICE-TECH’s blockchain-based age verification received unprecedented FDA acceptance within four weeks, positioning it as a potential first-ever component PMTA approval. Positive Sentiment: The international ODM business has an $80 million pipeline, with accelerating partnerships with major global nicotine and tobacco providers seeking diversified supply chains. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallIspire Technology Q4 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, everyone, and welcome to Ispire Technology Inc.'s earnings conference call for the fourth quarter and full year for fiscal 2025. I would now like to introduce Phil Carlson from KCSA Strategic Communications. Please go ahead, sir. Phil CarlsonManaging Director at KCSA Strategic Communications00:00:17Hello, everyone, and welcome to Ispire Technology Inc.'s earnings conference call for the fourth quarter in fiscal year 2025 and June 30, 2025. At this time, I'd like to inform you that this conference call is being recorded and that all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the company's prepared remarks, we'll be facilitating a question-and-answer session. Joining us today are Mr. Michael Wang, the company's Co-Chief Executive Officer, and Mr. Jay Yu, the company's Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Wang will start by reviewing the company's key fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results and recent corporate highlights. Mr. Yu will then discuss the company's financial results in greater detail. Before I begin, I would like to remind you that this conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Phil CarlsonManaging Director at KCSA Strategic Communications00:01:05All statements other than statements of historical facts in this announcement are forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are based on estimates and assumptions made by the company in terms of its experience and perception of historical trends, current conditions, and expected future developments, as well as other factors that the company believes are relevant. These forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, and many factors could cause the company's actual results or performance to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. Further information regarding this and other risk factors are included in the company's filings with the SEC. The company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequent or current events or circumstances or to changes in its expectation except as may be required by law. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Wang. Mr. Wang, please go ahead. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:01:56Thank you, Phil, and welcome to everyone who has joined us today. I'm pleased to be here reviewing our fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2025 results and the recent corporate highlights. Fiscal year 2025 was a pivotal period for Ispire Technology Inc. We made important strategic decisions to position Ispire for sustainable long-term growth and executed on this transformation across several areas of the Ispire business. While our revenue declined during the fourth quarter and full year 2025, this was due to our strategic pivot away from the cannabis sector to focus more on the higher-value nicotine sector. This intentional shift reflects our disciplined approach to building a more sustainable and profitable business model. We have been selective in our cannabis operations while simultaneously investing in our nicotine manufacturing capabilities. This includes scaling up our production in Malaysia. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:03:19Additionally, our investments in breakthrough technologies like ICE-TECH and our GMASH technology are beginning to gain significant traction with interest from major tobacco companies, positioning us well for future growth as we move through the regulatory approval process. As I just mentioned, in fiscal 2025, we continued to invest strategically in the build-out of our facilities in Malaysia and have several very exciting business development opportunities that we hope to report on in the coming quarters. Our Malaysian operations are planned to have a capacity for up to 80 production lines, significantly growing our manufacturing abilities from the six lines we are currently operating. Our focus on production in Malaysia not only diversifies our production base and de-risks our operations from geopolitical factors, but also positions us to capitalize on the growing global demand for precision dosing vaping. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:04:46As I have discussed, on the cannabis front, we made the intentional decision to refocus on quality of customers versus quantity, given the ongoing uncertainty and financial challenges facing all of the players in the cannabis industry. This approach prioritizes building sustainable long-term partnerships over short-term volume gains. This has already translated into improvements with cuts to expenses in several areas. We reduced our net accounts receivable on a year-over-year basis by over 21% from fiscal 2024 to fiscal 2025. This is the first time in the company's history that the net accounts receivable declined year over year. In addition, we reduced our quarter-over-quarter gross accounts receivable by $6.9 million or 9.1% from Q3 of fiscal 2025 to Q4 of fiscal 2025. We also reduced our general and administrative expenses from $7.6 million in fiscal Q3 2025 to $6.7 million in fiscal Q4 2025. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:06:38These improved metrics are the result of our focus on reducing fixed costs while further streamlining our operations. During fiscal 2025, we undertook significant cost optimization measures, reducing annual expenses by a total estimated annual savings of $10.2 million. These actions have positioned our company to become a more focused and more agile organization while enhancing our path to profitability. We expect the trend of declining costs to continue in the coming quarters as we maintain our focus on larger and higher-quality customers with improved payment terms and as we strengthen our financial stability. On the regulatory front, we continue to advance our PMPA activities for our own devices while awaiting updates on the groundbreaking component PMPA submission filed by our strategic joint venture, ICE-TECH LLC. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:08:08As we have previously discussed, this blockchain-based age verification technology represents a potential game changer for the industry, requiring continuous real-time authentication rather than the single point of purchase verification used by traditional systems. The FDA's review of what could be the first-ever component PMPA approval remains a critical milestone that would unlock modular deployment across hundreds of ENDS products, fundamentally transforming the regulatory landscape for nicotine delivery systems. We remain committed to our role as a regulatory leader, continuing to invest in compliance initiatives that position us at the forefront of this evolving market. Looking ahead, our international nicotine ODM business represents a key growth opportunity that is now gaining significant momentum after a slower than anticipated start. This acceleration in our ODM business, combined with our expanding Malaysian manufacturing capabilities, positions us well to capitalize on growing global demand for precision vaping technology. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:09:58As we continue to build out our international manufacturing footprint, we expect our ODM partnerships to be a substantial contributor to our revenue growth in the coming quarters. We are also currently engaged in discussions with several major international nicotine and tobacco providers who are looking to diversify their supply chain systems. While we cannot yet reveal more specific details, we look forward to providing an update to the market when possible. As we execute on these strategic initiatives, we have also strengthened our leadership team with the appointment of Jay Yu as our new Chief Financial Officer in May. Jay brings extensive public company accounting experience and has demonstrated exceptional performance as our Vice President of Finance since June 2023, building deep knowledge of our operations and financial structures. His promotion reflects our commitment to maintaining strong financial stewardship as we navigate this period of transformation. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:11:30To sum up, we delivered substantial progress across our key strategic priorities during the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2025 while maintaining financial discipline. Most importantly, our revenue decline this quarter was a result of our intentional strategic shift away from cannabis towards the higher-value nicotine sector, positioning us for stronger and more sustainable growth ahead. I will now turn the call over to our new CFO, Jay Yu, to review our financial results in more detail. Jay. Jay YuCFO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:12:18Thank you, Michael, for introducing me, and thank you to everyone for joining the call today. I'm pleased to be here to review Ispire's key financial results for the first quarter and the fiscal year 2025. As a reminder, I will refer to fiscal year 2025 as the year ended on June 30, 2025. All comparisons are to the prior fourth fiscal quarter or year ended June 30, 2024, unless otherwise stated. Total revenue for the fiscal year 2025 declined from $151.9 million to $127.5 million, or by $24.4 million versus fiscal year 2024. As Michael has discussed, this was due to realignment of our business toward nicotine while moving away from cannabis customers, which we believe will deliver improved accounts receivable and more sustainable long-term growth. Jay YuCFO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:13:38Taking a look at revenue by geographic regions, for fiscal 2025, European revenue totaled approximately $74.1 million, an increase of $8.8 million or 13.6% compared to $65.3 million last year. For fiscal 2025, North American revenue was approximately $32.6 million compared to $63.1 million in fiscal 2024. This was predominantly due to our strategic pivot away from cannabis and being more selective with larger and quality customers such as MSOs. For fiscal 2025, revenue from Asia Pacific totaled approximately $12.3 million compared to $17.6 million last fiscal year. For fiscal 2025, revenue from other countries was $8.5 million, an increase of $2.6 million compared to $6 million in fiscal 2024. The majority of these sales are from South Africa. During fiscal 2025, gross profit declined to $22.7 million from $29.8 million for the year prior. Jay YuCFO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:15:18Gross margins were 17.8% for fiscal year 2025, a decrease of 1.8% from 19.6% in fiscal 2024. As Michael has discussed, this was due to the strategic repositioning away from cannabis, which led to the revenue reduction for this period. Operating expenses over the 12-month period to June 30, 2025 were $60.5 million, up from $43.7 million for fiscal 2024. This increase was largely due to a rise in sales and marketing expenses with a ramp-up of marketing activities, as well as an increase in bad debt expense, foreign allowance incurred losses, offset by a decrease in stock-based compensation expense due to cutting headcount in streamlining North American operations and a reduction in R&D expenses. Importantly, since Q3 2025, general and administrative expenses declined by $0.9 million. This reflects the impact of our cost-cutting initiatives that Michael discussed in detail, which we expect to continue into fiscal 2026. Jay YuCFO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:16:57For fiscal 2025, net loss was $39.2 million compared to $40.8 million in fiscal 2024. Moving now to the balance sheet, at June 30, 2025, Ispire held cash of $24.4 million, a reduction of $10.7 million versus the previous year, with a working capital balance of $0.4 million. For the 12 months to June 30, 2025, net cash flow used by operating activities was $7.4 million compared to $18.3 million in the same period last year. Net cash used in investing activities for the 12 months to June 30, 2025 was $5.2 million compared to $3 million provided by investing activity in the prior comparable period. Net cash provided by financing activities for 12 months to June 30, 2025 was $1.9 million compared to $10.1 million used in the same period last year. This concludes our review of financial results for fiscal fourth quarter and for year 2025. Jay YuCFO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:18:25I will now hand the call back over to Michael. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:18:29Thanks, Jay. In closing, I'm proud of the substantial organizational and operational transformation we achieved throughout our fiscal fourth quarter and the full year 2025. As I outlined today, we accomplished multiple critical strategic objectives this period: further developing our Malaysian manufacturing capabilities, dramatically accelerating our international ODM business with over $80 million in pipeline revenue, strengthening our financial position through improved accounts receivable management and significant expense reductions, and advancing our regulatory initiatives, including ongoing PMPA progress. Furthermore, our successful pivot from cannabis to the higher-value global nicotine market demonstrates our strategic agility and commitment to building a more profitable and sustainable business model. Looking ahead, Ispire is uniquely positioned to capture several transformative growth opportunities. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:19:50Our exclusive Malaysian manufacturing authorization provides unparalleled competitive advantages in the global nicotine market, while our breakthrough technologies like ICE-TECH's age gating system and our GMASH innovation have the potential to reshape industry standards for safety and performance. Combined with our expanding ODM partnerships and strategic focus on regulatory compliance, we are exceptionally well positioned to emerge as a leader in the precision dosing vaping technology while setting new benchmarks for responsible industry practices. Thank you to our investors for the trust they support through this pivotal transformation and to everyone who joined us today. We look forward to reporting on our continued progress and exciting developments in the coming quarters. If you have any questions, please contact us through email at ir@ispiretechnology.com. This completes our prepared remarks, and we are now open to questions. Operator, please go ahead. Operator00:21:17Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from the line of Pablo Zuanic with Zuanic & Associates LLC. Please proceed with your question. Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:21:44Thank you for taking our questions and hello everyone. Just the first question in terms of the age gating technology, can you tell us about what are the key milestones to look for here over the next few months or years? What's the timetable? What's a realistic target date for approval? If you have any visibility on that, please. Thank you. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:22:07Thank you, Pablo. Right now, the age gating technology is being, I would say, discussed not only within the U.S., on a global basis. This has become a hot topic. So many countries are looking at this technology. Progress, some could be much faster than others out there. Now, back to the U.S. with this technology, we filed the component PMPA back in late April. Within four weeks, we received the FDA's acceptance letter, which is really speed-wise unprecedented. Never before did the FDA accept any applications regarding the nicotine business within four weeks. Of course, we are very encouraged with that speed. This particular application is expected to be reviewed at a so-called expedited basis. We don't know exactly when the next step will happen. Typically, a major next step is the FDA's issuance of a letter called a deficiency letter. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:23:45Generally, that's based on FDA's evaluation of your product. If there are minor modifications or fixes that need to be done before the green light, typically FDA issues such a deficiency letter, I guess, to suggest the companies or brands to fix, overcome the deficiency. Within the U.S., the FDA's response, Pablo, we don't know exactly when that letter would arrive. That generally is the next step. It could be as quick as three months or as long as, in some cases, over a year for other nicotine-specific products. This is a unique application. Certainly, it's the first case of so-called component PMPA that FDA is reviewing or has reviewed. There is no prior experience regarding this, but we trust with youth access to e-cigarettes being such a worldwide epidemic, we strongly believe lawmakers, regulators, will find a suitable solution for this crisis per se. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:25:19We feel we are in the forefront of this solution offering, Pablo. Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:25:27Thank you. On the same topic, is it realistic to expect that perhaps in other major markets outside the U.S., maybe the EU, that you would get approval for the age verification technology sooner than in the U.S., or the U.S. would probably happen first? Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:25:46Pablo, of course, we are very optimistic about this project getting special attention from the FDA for the purpose of solving this crisis. We certainly are hoping within short order we would receive such a letter from the FDA. That will be very encouraging to the industry and to us specifically. However, at least two countries could potentially get ahead of the FDA at this point. I'm not at liberty to share the name of those two countries, but their regulators are just embracing this technology with open arms. In several other countries, we have been working with regulators as well. We don't have an expected timeline at this point, but two are moving real fast outside the U.S. Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:26:58Right. I'm sorry, one more on the same topic, if I may, in terms of age verification. I know you said you believe that you're at the forefront of this technology. Can you talk about your patents, intellectual property, how are you protecting this? I'm assuming that other companies are also working on similar technologies, you think you will be first. Just remind us about the protections you have from an IP perspective. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:27:25Yes, indeed, Pablo. For every major development, we have filed patents, especially in the United States, and then EU, UK, and China, etc. We know IP is a key enabler in this particular solution. We own critical patents or IP in this space, especially in one key area, how the device communicates to the app and then communicates to the backend data processing to secure the mechanism, specifically for blockchain-based technology. We strongly believe our IP defensibility is very strong. From the beginning of this project, we have been viewing IP as a key strategy, not only in providing such a solution, but more importantly, in defending such a solution. Both on the use of the blockchain side and on the unique communication with data processing, generally government-approved and complying operators, such as Clear, those are unique IP for us, Pablo. Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:29:12Right. Thank you very much. Look, if I may, I'm going to ask two more questions, and that's all for me. The first one, in terms of, you know, you had this, you talked about the receivables. You had this big provision of $22 million, I think, in the fourth quarter. Was that related to just one client in one region? I don't know if you can give a bit more color about that. It just seems like a big provision on receivables. The second one, I understand the pivot away from cannabis, but you know, cannabis in the U.S. is still a $30 billion industry. Vape, it's about 25% of that. There's demand for vape parts. You would think that that business is still there for someone to take, right? Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:29:50Maybe you can give more color in terms of, I understand the economics are challenging, but there is the demand for vape parts. Just trying to understand the pivot away from cannabis. If you can answer those two, that's all for me. Thank you. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:30:05Okay. Thank you. Pablo, I will answer the second one first. The U.S. cannabis industry, indeed, is very strong, and I think it will continue to be a strong market from a revenue from sales point of view. However, we all know until cannabis is federally legalized, and correspondingly, there is a financial service or banking services available to the industry, cash flow will continue to be the challenge. I think this is a typical case of a very promising industry with a lot of, like you said, a lot of revenue, a lot of opportunities. We have been in this space for many years, and we have seen the challenges facing all the operators in terms of cash flow, and it directly affects our business of the past. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:31:19To a large degree, our high amount of accounts receivable has been largely driven by the cash flow challenges that our customers faced. Yes, indeed, from a revenue point of view, there is a continued opportunity here. However, we feel the cash flow challenges facing everybody are not facilitating what we want to accomplish financially, at least in the near future until the capital market becomes available to the cannabis industry. Legalization, of course, will be step one. We are watching the development on that front. When the right moment comes, we will come back to the industry. In the near term, we don't see any ways for cash flow improvement. That's why we made the pivot, Pablo. Pablo, sorry, remind me your first question again. Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:32:40In terms of the receivables, I went through the financials. I missed the details, but it seems there was a big provision of about $22 million in the fourth quarter. I'm just trying to understand, was that related to just one client in one region or just bigger precaution in general? It just seemed like a big provision compared to other quarters. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:33:01Yeah. Pablo, that bad provision is not based on a few large accounts. It's really quite a cumulative effect for all the customers we did business with in the last two-plus years after going public. Not a particular customer stands out to answer your question. Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:33:34All right. Thank you. Operator00:33:39Thank you. As a reminder, if you'd like to join the question queue, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from a line of Nick Anderson with ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed with your question. Nick AndersonDirector - Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:33:53Good morning, and thanks for taking the questions. First one for me is just on the UK supply agreement. You're starting to really monetize that deal. I'm just wondering if you could maybe share the early feedback from that client and how the agreement's going in terms of order trends. Just going forward, is this the SKU you'll use to shop around to other larger clients, or are there more additional iterations coming? Thank you. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:34:17Thank you, Nick. This particular ODM client, when we launched this project late calendar 2024, we had a version one of the product. Correspondingly, as we all know, the UK disposable ban affected the dynamic in the e-cig industry in that particular market. Throughout the last 12 months, there have been several significant changes in the market trend. As a result of such a dynamic, version one really didn't take off as the client originally expected. Early this year, collectively, we made several changes to their design and upgraded its product significantly. We officially launched it right during the summer this year. Initial feedback is very, very encouraging. To a large degree, in my prepared speech, I mentioned that there was a backlog of $18 million from this space. It's really largely tied to this particular customer. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:35:56Version two is truly, truly taking off, and I feel it will meet the original target that the customer set more than a year ago for this product. Of course, Nick, we are still working on the next iteration. We expect to launch that towards the end of this calendar year. This is such a dynamic industry, competitive industry. Literally, if you don't introduce a new product faster than other brands, it's really, really challenging for the players. We are trying to make our particular customer very, very competitive. Nick. Nick AndersonDirector - Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:36:43Got it. I appreciate that color. Next one for me, just on the tariff landscape. You mentioned several larger companies looking to diversify their supply chains. What do you expect just in terms of potentially onboarding some of these larger clients? Has that changed kind of the expansion roadmap for your Malaysian facility? Thank you. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:37:02Okay. Yes. Many companies, including brands, including manufacturers, have been shifting production outside of China, of course, largely to the Southeast Asian countries. Tariff was truly a consideration there. From our point of view, we did see a large, I would say, number of inbound increase from brands and even manufacturing competitors. We have seen that part. Certainly, we have been preparing for this moment a couple of years back with the selection for Malaysia as our key manufacturing base. As we have been talking about for the last two years, Malaysian operation has been carefully scaled. We wanted to go faster, but we knew too to obtain regulatory approval, it would take time. Our expansion there is timed by how quickly we get government permit and approval. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:38:43On the other hand, with that careful consideration, we built two facilities, one small, one large, for demand that we anticipated a couple of years back regarding geopolitical situations. Right now, we are seriously considering a third facility, which will be much, much larger in nature to entertain what you just described as some potential large ODM projects. It's slow going, of course. We need to be mindful of the regulatory requirements and compliance. With the presence of such large opportunities, it's important for us to get ahead of the wave of opportunities and get facilities in place before we scale. We are working on building out the production line in the second facility that could house up to 80 e-cigarette production lines. We are modifying that, the second building. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:40:13The first building, we already talked before, there were only six lines in that building, far too small to support such an expanding global e-cigarette ODM business. The second one comes handy for us, but still not enough to handle all the opportunities we could potentially entertain. Nick. Nick AndersonDirector - Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:40:39Got it. Last one for me. Just wanted to build off the last cannabis question you answered. I appreciate the color you gave. Rationalization is playing out, and we understand the difficulties in that segment. Would you say the 4Q cannabis revenue numbers are a more realistic run rate for your U.S. business going forward? Just wondering what that segment could look like this coming year. If rescheduling does happen, would it change the way you're looking at U.S. cannabis? Thank you. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:41:07Okay. So yeah, cannabis revenue Q4 is really on the low side. Right now, we are already going at a higher speed, per se, volume-wise. I would say Q financial, fiscal Q4 2025 is the bottom of our cannabis business. That largely had to do with as we re-pivoted. We purposely ended many customer relationships. That was really giving us the biggest impact on revenue growth. Q4 really reached the very bottom, and we started gaining new customers who would meet our, let's say, quality assessment. Plus, we, of course, are continuing with new product development. Before the end of the year, we'll have several new products we'll launch. Combined with what we call high-quality customer base, we think the new products will also bring additional revenue. Your second part of the question regarding rescheduling. Yes. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:42:48When the rescheduling would take place, we would certainly evaluate the opportunity of beefing up the investment in the cannabis sector. Nick. Nick AndersonDirector - Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:43:04Got it. That's it for me. I appreciate the color. I'll jump back in the queue. Operator00:43:13Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session and concludes our call today. We thank you for your interest and participation. You may now disconnect your line.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJay YuCFOMichael WangCo-CEOAnalystsNick AndersonDirector - Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLCPablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & AssociatesPhil CarlsonManaging Director at KCSA Strategic CommunicationsPowered by Earnings DocumentsEarnings Release(8-K)Annual Report(10-K) Ispire Technology Earnings HeadlinesIspire Technology (NASDAQ:ISPR) versus Japan Tob (OTCMKTS:JAPAY) Financial AnalysisSeptember 27 at 2:27 AM | americanbankingnews.comIspire Technology (NASDAQ:ISPR) Downgraded to Strong Sell Rating by Zacks ResearchSeptember 26 at 2:37 AM | americanbankingnews.comProtect Your Bank Account with THESE 4 Simple StepsStarting as soon as a few months from now, the United States government will make a sweeping change to bank accounts nationwide. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, everyone, and welcome to Ispire Technology Inc.'s earnings conference call for the fourth quarter and full year for fiscal 2025. I would now like to introduce Phil Carlson from KCSA Strategic Communications. Please go ahead, sir. Phil CarlsonManaging Director at KCSA Strategic Communications00:00:17Hello, everyone, and welcome to Ispire Technology Inc.'s earnings conference call for the fourth quarter in fiscal year 2025 and June 30, 2025. At this time, I'd like to inform you that this conference call is being recorded and that all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the company's prepared remarks, we'll be facilitating a question-and-answer session. Joining us today are Mr. Michael Wang, the company's Co-Chief Executive Officer, and Mr. Jay Yu, the company's Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Wang will start by reviewing the company's key fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results and recent corporate highlights. Mr. Yu will then discuss the company's financial results in greater detail. Before I begin, I would like to remind you that this conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Phil CarlsonManaging Director at KCSA Strategic Communications00:01:05All statements other than statements of historical facts in this announcement are forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are based on estimates and assumptions made by the company in terms of its experience and perception of historical trends, current conditions, and expected future developments, as well as other factors that the company believes are relevant. These forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, and many factors could cause the company's actual results or performance to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. Further information regarding this and other risk factors are included in the company's filings with the SEC. The company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequent or current events or circumstances or to changes in its expectation except as may be required by law. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Wang. Mr. Wang, please go ahead. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:01:56Thank you, Phil, and welcome to everyone who has joined us today. I'm pleased to be here reviewing our fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2025 results and the recent corporate highlights. Fiscal year 2025 was a pivotal period for Ispire Technology Inc. We made important strategic decisions to position Ispire for sustainable long-term growth and executed on this transformation across several areas of the Ispire business. While our revenue declined during the fourth quarter and full year 2025, this was due to our strategic pivot away from the cannabis sector to focus more on the higher-value nicotine sector. This intentional shift reflects our disciplined approach to building a more sustainable and profitable business model. We have been selective in our cannabis operations while simultaneously investing in our nicotine manufacturing capabilities. This includes scaling up our production in Malaysia. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:03:19Additionally, our investments in breakthrough technologies like ICE-TECH and our GMASH technology are beginning to gain significant traction with interest from major tobacco companies, positioning us well for future growth as we move through the regulatory approval process. As I just mentioned, in fiscal 2025, we continued to invest strategically in the build-out of our facilities in Malaysia and have several very exciting business development opportunities that we hope to report on in the coming quarters. Our Malaysian operations are planned to have a capacity for up to 80 production lines, significantly growing our manufacturing abilities from the six lines we are currently operating. Our focus on production in Malaysia not only diversifies our production base and de-risks our operations from geopolitical factors, but also positions us to capitalize on the growing global demand for precision dosing vaping. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:04:46As I have discussed, on the cannabis front, we made the intentional decision to refocus on quality of customers versus quantity, given the ongoing uncertainty and financial challenges facing all of the players in the cannabis industry. This approach prioritizes building sustainable long-term partnerships over short-term volume gains. This has already translated into improvements with cuts to expenses in several areas. We reduced our net accounts receivable on a year-over-year basis by over 21% from fiscal 2024 to fiscal 2025. This is the first time in the company's history that the net accounts receivable declined year over year. In addition, we reduced our quarter-over-quarter gross accounts receivable by $6.9 million or 9.1% from Q3 of fiscal 2025 to Q4 of fiscal 2025. We also reduced our general and administrative expenses from $7.6 million in fiscal Q3 2025 to $6.7 million in fiscal Q4 2025. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:06:38These improved metrics are the result of our focus on reducing fixed costs while further streamlining our operations. During fiscal 2025, we undertook significant cost optimization measures, reducing annual expenses by a total estimated annual savings of $10.2 million. These actions have positioned our company to become a more focused and more agile organization while enhancing our path to profitability. We expect the trend of declining costs to continue in the coming quarters as we maintain our focus on larger and higher-quality customers with improved payment terms and as we strengthen our financial stability. On the regulatory front, we continue to advance our PMPA activities for our own devices while awaiting updates on the groundbreaking component PMPA submission filed by our strategic joint venture, ICE-TECH LLC. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:08:08As we have previously discussed, this blockchain-based age verification technology represents a potential game changer for the industry, requiring continuous real-time authentication rather than the single point of purchase verification used by traditional systems. The FDA's review of what could be the first-ever component PMPA approval remains a critical milestone that would unlock modular deployment across hundreds of ENDS products, fundamentally transforming the regulatory landscape for nicotine delivery systems. We remain committed to our role as a regulatory leader, continuing to invest in compliance initiatives that position us at the forefront of this evolving market. Looking ahead, our international nicotine ODM business represents a key growth opportunity that is now gaining significant momentum after a slower than anticipated start. This acceleration in our ODM business, combined with our expanding Malaysian manufacturing capabilities, positions us well to capitalize on growing global demand for precision vaping technology. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:09:58As we continue to build out our international manufacturing footprint, we expect our ODM partnerships to be a substantial contributor to our revenue growth in the coming quarters. We are also currently engaged in discussions with several major international nicotine and tobacco providers who are looking to diversify their supply chain systems. While we cannot yet reveal more specific details, we look forward to providing an update to the market when possible. As we execute on these strategic initiatives, we have also strengthened our leadership team with the appointment of Jay Yu as our new Chief Financial Officer in May. Jay brings extensive public company accounting experience and has demonstrated exceptional performance as our Vice President of Finance since June 2023, building deep knowledge of our operations and financial structures. His promotion reflects our commitment to maintaining strong financial stewardship as we navigate this period of transformation. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:11:30To sum up, we delivered substantial progress across our key strategic priorities during the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2025 while maintaining financial discipline. Most importantly, our revenue decline this quarter was a result of our intentional strategic shift away from cannabis towards the higher-value nicotine sector, positioning us for stronger and more sustainable growth ahead. I will now turn the call over to our new CFO, Jay Yu, to review our financial results in more detail. Jay. Jay YuCFO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:12:18Thank you, Michael, for introducing me, and thank you to everyone for joining the call today. I'm pleased to be here to review Ispire's key financial results for the first quarter and the fiscal year 2025. As a reminder, I will refer to fiscal year 2025 as the year ended on June 30, 2025. All comparisons are to the prior fourth fiscal quarter or year ended June 30, 2024, unless otherwise stated. Total revenue for the fiscal year 2025 declined from $151.9 million to $127.5 million, or by $24.4 million versus fiscal year 2024. As Michael has discussed, this was due to realignment of our business toward nicotine while moving away from cannabis customers, which we believe will deliver improved accounts receivable and more sustainable long-term growth. Jay YuCFO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:13:38Taking a look at revenue by geographic regions, for fiscal 2025, European revenue totaled approximately $74.1 million, an increase of $8.8 million or 13.6% compared to $65.3 million last year. For fiscal 2025, North American revenue was approximately $32.6 million compared to $63.1 million in fiscal 2024. This was predominantly due to our strategic pivot away from cannabis and being more selective with larger and quality customers such as MSOs. For fiscal 2025, revenue from Asia Pacific totaled approximately $12.3 million compared to $17.6 million last fiscal year. For fiscal 2025, revenue from other countries was $8.5 million, an increase of $2.6 million compared to $6 million in fiscal 2024. The majority of these sales are from South Africa. During fiscal 2025, gross profit declined to $22.7 million from $29.8 million for the year prior. Jay YuCFO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:15:18Gross margins were 17.8% for fiscal year 2025, a decrease of 1.8% from 19.6% in fiscal 2024. As Michael has discussed, this was due to the strategic repositioning away from cannabis, which led to the revenue reduction for this period. Operating expenses over the 12-month period to June 30, 2025 were $60.5 million, up from $43.7 million for fiscal 2024. This increase was largely due to a rise in sales and marketing expenses with a ramp-up of marketing activities, as well as an increase in bad debt expense, foreign allowance incurred losses, offset by a decrease in stock-based compensation expense due to cutting headcount in streamlining North American operations and a reduction in R&D expenses. Importantly, since Q3 2025, general and administrative expenses declined by $0.9 million. This reflects the impact of our cost-cutting initiatives that Michael discussed in detail, which we expect to continue into fiscal 2026. Jay YuCFO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:16:57For fiscal 2025, net loss was $39.2 million compared to $40.8 million in fiscal 2024. Moving now to the balance sheet, at June 30, 2025, Ispire held cash of $24.4 million, a reduction of $10.7 million versus the previous year, with a working capital balance of $0.4 million. For the 12 months to June 30, 2025, net cash flow used by operating activities was $7.4 million compared to $18.3 million in the same period last year. Net cash used in investing activities for the 12 months to June 30, 2025 was $5.2 million compared to $3 million provided by investing activity in the prior comparable period. Net cash provided by financing activities for 12 months to June 30, 2025 was $1.9 million compared to $10.1 million used in the same period last year. This concludes our review of financial results for fiscal fourth quarter and for year 2025. Jay YuCFO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:18:25I will now hand the call back over to Michael. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:18:29Thanks, Jay. In closing, I'm proud of the substantial organizational and operational transformation we achieved throughout our fiscal fourth quarter and the full year 2025. As I outlined today, we accomplished multiple critical strategic objectives this period: further developing our Malaysian manufacturing capabilities, dramatically accelerating our international ODM business with over $80 million in pipeline revenue, strengthening our financial position through improved accounts receivable management and significant expense reductions, and advancing our regulatory initiatives, including ongoing PMPA progress. Furthermore, our successful pivot from cannabis to the higher-value global nicotine market demonstrates our strategic agility and commitment to building a more profitable and sustainable business model. Looking ahead, Ispire is uniquely positioned to capture several transformative growth opportunities. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:19:50Our exclusive Malaysian manufacturing authorization provides unparalleled competitive advantages in the global nicotine market, while our breakthrough technologies like ICE-TECH's age gating system and our GMASH innovation have the potential to reshape industry standards for safety and performance. Combined with our expanding ODM partnerships and strategic focus on regulatory compliance, we are exceptionally well positioned to emerge as a leader in the precision dosing vaping technology while setting new benchmarks for responsible industry practices. Thank you to our investors for the trust they support through this pivotal transformation and to everyone who joined us today. We look forward to reporting on our continued progress and exciting developments in the coming quarters. If you have any questions, please contact us through email at ir@ispiretechnology.com. This completes our prepared remarks, and we are now open to questions. Operator, please go ahead. Operator00:21:17Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from the line of Pablo Zuanic with Zuanic & Associates LLC. Please proceed with your question. Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:21:44Thank you for taking our questions and hello everyone. Just the first question in terms of the age gating technology, can you tell us about what are the key milestones to look for here over the next few months or years? What's the timetable? What's a realistic target date for approval? If you have any visibility on that, please. Thank you. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:22:07Thank you, Pablo. Right now, the age gating technology is being, I would say, discussed not only within the U.S., on a global basis. This has become a hot topic. So many countries are looking at this technology. Progress, some could be much faster than others out there. Now, back to the U.S. with this technology, we filed the component PMPA back in late April. Within four weeks, we received the FDA's acceptance letter, which is really speed-wise unprecedented. Never before did the FDA accept any applications regarding the nicotine business within four weeks. Of course, we are very encouraged with that speed. This particular application is expected to be reviewed at a so-called expedited basis. We don't know exactly when the next step will happen. Typically, a major next step is the FDA's issuance of a letter called a deficiency letter. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:23:45Generally, that's based on FDA's evaluation of your product. If there are minor modifications or fixes that need to be done before the green light, typically FDA issues such a deficiency letter, I guess, to suggest the companies or brands to fix, overcome the deficiency. Within the U.S., the FDA's response, Pablo, we don't know exactly when that letter would arrive. That generally is the next step. It could be as quick as three months or as long as, in some cases, over a year for other nicotine-specific products. This is a unique application. Certainly, it's the first case of so-called component PMPA that FDA is reviewing or has reviewed. There is no prior experience regarding this, but we trust with youth access to e-cigarettes being such a worldwide epidemic, we strongly believe lawmakers, regulators, will find a suitable solution for this crisis per se. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:25:19We feel we are in the forefront of this solution offering, Pablo. Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:25:27Thank you. On the same topic, is it realistic to expect that perhaps in other major markets outside the U.S., maybe the EU, that you would get approval for the age verification technology sooner than in the U.S., or the U.S. would probably happen first? Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:25:46Pablo, of course, we are very optimistic about this project getting special attention from the FDA for the purpose of solving this crisis. We certainly are hoping within short order we would receive such a letter from the FDA. That will be very encouraging to the industry and to us specifically. However, at least two countries could potentially get ahead of the FDA at this point. I'm not at liberty to share the name of those two countries, but their regulators are just embracing this technology with open arms. In several other countries, we have been working with regulators as well. We don't have an expected timeline at this point, but two are moving real fast outside the U.S. Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:26:58Right. I'm sorry, one more on the same topic, if I may, in terms of age verification. I know you said you believe that you're at the forefront of this technology. Can you talk about your patents, intellectual property, how are you protecting this? I'm assuming that other companies are also working on similar technologies, you think you will be first. Just remind us about the protections you have from an IP perspective. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:27:25Yes, indeed, Pablo. For every major development, we have filed patents, especially in the United States, and then EU, UK, and China, etc. We know IP is a key enabler in this particular solution. We own critical patents or IP in this space, especially in one key area, how the device communicates to the app and then communicates to the backend data processing to secure the mechanism, specifically for blockchain-based technology. We strongly believe our IP defensibility is very strong. From the beginning of this project, we have been viewing IP as a key strategy, not only in providing such a solution, but more importantly, in defending such a solution. Both on the use of the blockchain side and on the unique communication with data processing, generally government-approved and complying operators, such as Clear, those are unique IP for us, Pablo. Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:29:12Right. Thank you very much. Look, if I may, I'm going to ask two more questions, and that's all for me. The first one, in terms of, you know, you had this, you talked about the receivables. You had this big provision of $22 million, I think, in the fourth quarter. Was that related to just one client in one region? I don't know if you can give a bit more color about that. It just seems like a big provision on receivables. The second one, I understand the pivot away from cannabis, but you know, cannabis in the U.S. is still a $30 billion industry. Vape, it's about 25% of that. There's demand for vape parts. You would think that that business is still there for someone to take, right? Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:29:50Maybe you can give more color in terms of, I understand the economics are challenging, but there is the demand for vape parts. Just trying to understand the pivot away from cannabis. If you can answer those two, that's all for me. Thank you. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:30:05Okay. Thank you. Pablo, I will answer the second one first. The U.S. cannabis industry, indeed, is very strong, and I think it will continue to be a strong market from a revenue from sales point of view. However, we all know until cannabis is federally legalized, and correspondingly, there is a financial service or banking services available to the industry, cash flow will continue to be the challenge. I think this is a typical case of a very promising industry with a lot of, like you said, a lot of revenue, a lot of opportunities. We have been in this space for many years, and we have seen the challenges facing all the operators in terms of cash flow, and it directly affects our business of the past. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:31:19To a large degree, our high amount of accounts receivable has been largely driven by the cash flow challenges that our customers faced. Yes, indeed, from a revenue point of view, there is a continued opportunity here. However, we feel the cash flow challenges facing everybody are not facilitating what we want to accomplish financially, at least in the near future until the capital market becomes available to the cannabis industry. Legalization, of course, will be step one. We are watching the development on that front. When the right moment comes, we will come back to the industry. In the near term, we don't see any ways for cash flow improvement. That's why we made the pivot, Pablo. Pablo, sorry, remind me your first question again. Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:32:40In terms of the receivables, I went through the financials. I missed the details, but it seems there was a big provision of about $22 million in the fourth quarter. I'm just trying to understand, was that related to just one client in one region or just bigger precaution in general? It just seemed like a big provision compared to other quarters. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:33:01Yeah. Pablo, that bad provision is not based on a few large accounts. It's really quite a cumulative effect for all the customers we did business with in the last two-plus years after going public. Not a particular customer stands out to answer your question. Pablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:33:34All right. Thank you. Operator00:33:39Thank you. As a reminder, if you'd like to join the question queue, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from a line of Nick Anderson with ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed with your question. Nick AndersonDirector - Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:33:53Good morning, and thanks for taking the questions. First one for me is just on the UK supply agreement. You're starting to really monetize that deal. I'm just wondering if you could maybe share the early feedback from that client and how the agreement's going in terms of order trends. Just going forward, is this the SKU you'll use to shop around to other larger clients, or are there more additional iterations coming? Thank you. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:34:17Thank you, Nick. This particular ODM client, when we launched this project late calendar 2024, we had a version one of the product. Correspondingly, as we all know, the UK disposable ban affected the dynamic in the e-cig industry in that particular market. Throughout the last 12 months, there have been several significant changes in the market trend. As a result of such a dynamic, version one really didn't take off as the client originally expected. Early this year, collectively, we made several changes to their design and upgraded its product significantly. We officially launched it right during the summer this year. Initial feedback is very, very encouraging. To a large degree, in my prepared speech, I mentioned that there was a backlog of $18 million from this space. It's really largely tied to this particular customer. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:35:56Version two is truly, truly taking off, and I feel it will meet the original target that the customer set more than a year ago for this product. Of course, Nick, we are still working on the next iteration. We expect to launch that towards the end of this calendar year. This is such a dynamic industry, competitive industry. Literally, if you don't introduce a new product faster than other brands, it's really, really challenging for the players. We are trying to make our particular customer very, very competitive. Nick. Nick AndersonDirector - Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:36:43Got it. I appreciate that color. Next one for me, just on the tariff landscape. You mentioned several larger companies looking to diversify their supply chains. What do you expect just in terms of potentially onboarding some of these larger clients? Has that changed kind of the expansion roadmap for your Malaysian facility? Thank you. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:37:02Okay. Yes. Many companies, including brands, including manufacturers, have been shifting production outside of China, of course, largely to the Southeast Asian countries. Tariff was truly a consideration there. From our point of view, we did see a large, I would say, number of inbound increase from brands and even manufacturing competitors. We have seen that part. Certainly, we have been preparing for this moment a couple of years back with the selection for Malaysia as our key manufacturing base. As we have been talking about for the last two years, Malaysian operation has been carefully scaled. We wanted to go faster, but we knew too to obtain regulatory approval, it would take time. Our expansion there is timed by how quickly we get government permit and approval. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:38:43On the other hand, with that careful consideration, we built two facilities, one small, one large, for demand that we anticipated a couple of years back regarding geopolitical situations. Right now, we are seriously considering a third facility, which will be much, much larger in nature to entertain what you just described as some potential large ODM projects. It's slow going, of course. We need to be mindful of the regulatory requirements and compliance. With the presence of such large opportunities, it's important for us to get ahead of the wave of opportunities and get facilities in place before we scale. We are working on building out the production line in the second facility that could house up to 80 e-cigarette production lines. We are modifying that, the second building. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:40:13The first building, we already talked before, there were only six lines in that building, far too small to support such an expanding global e-cigarette ODM business. The second one comes handy for us, but still not enough to handle all the opportunities we could potentially entertain. Nick. Nick AndersonDirector - Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:40:39Got it. Last one for me. Just wanted to build off the last cannabis question you answered. I appreciate the color you gave. Rationalization is playing out, and we understand the difficulties in that segment. Would you say the 4Q cannabis revenue numbers are a more realistic run rate for your U.S. business going forward? Just wondering what that segment could look like this coming year. If rescheduling does happen, would it change the way you're looking at U.S. cannabis? Thank you. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:41:07Okay. So yeah, cannabis revenue Q4 is really on the low side. Right now, we are already going at a higher speed, per se, volume-wise. I would say Q financial, fiscal Q4 2025 is the bottom of our cannabis business. That largely had to do with as we re-pivoted. We purposely ended many customer relationships. That was really giving us the biggest impact on revenue growth. Q4 really reached the very bottom, and we started gaining new customers who would meet our, let's say, quality assessment. Plus, we, of course, are continuing with new product development. Before the end of the year, we'll have several new products we'll launch. Combined with what we call high-quality customer base, we think the new products will also bring additional revenue. Your second part of the question regarding rescheduling. Yes. Michael WangCo-CEO at Ispire Technology Inc.00:42:48When the rescheduling would take place, we would certainly evaluate the opportunity of beefing up the investment in the cannabis sector. Nick. Nick AndersonDirector - Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLC00:43:04Got it. That's it for me. I appreciate the color. I'll jump back in the queue. Operator00:43:13Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session and concludes our call today. We thank you for your interest and participation. You may now disconnect your line.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJay YuCFOMichael WangCo-CEOAnalystsNick AndersonDirector - Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners, LLCPablo ZuanicManaging Partner at Zuanic & AssociatesPhil CarlsonManaging Director at KCSA Strategic CommunicationsPowered by