Gamma Communications H1 2025 Earnings Report

Gamma Communications EPS Results

• Actual EPS: GBX 48
• Consensus EPS: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• One Year Ago EPS: N/A

Gamma Communications Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: N/A
• Expected Revenue: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
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Gamma Communications Announcement Details

• Quarter: H1 2025
• Date: 9/9/2025
• Time: Before Market Opens
• Conference Call Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 2:00AM ET

Gamma Communications (LON:GAMA), together with its subsidiaries, engages in the provision of technology-based communications and software services for small, medium, and large sized to businesses in Western Europe. The company offers Unified Communications as a Service products for enabling businesses to raise productivity, boost agility, and increase collaboration; Contact Centre as a Service, through a software platform that allows contact centres to operate over the internet for SMEs and Enterprise; and Direct Routing and Operator Connect services, designed to enable seamless and integrated calling between Teams and the local telephony infrastructure. It also offers Session Initiation Protocol trunking service with inbound call management functionality; and PhoneLine+, a phone line replacement service using VoIP technology to deliver voice calls over the broadband network. In addition, the company offers CircleLoop, a cloud-based telephony product, serviced through web, desktop and mobile applications and aimed at the micro-business market; and Cloud PBX, a virtual PBX system rooted on the internet, automatically answers all calls and routes them to the right department or user extension. Further, it provides Horizon, a business phone system with hosted communications service that provides businesses with fixed and mobile telephony capabilities; Horizon Collaborate, a solution for internal and external communication needs, including voice and video calls, instant messaging, video conferencing, and desktop and document sharing; and Horizon Contact, a cloud-based contact center solution, designed to work in conjunction with Horizon and Horizon Collaborate. The company offers its services through a network of channel partners, as well as directly to end users. Gamma Communications plc was founded in 2002 and is headquartered in London, the United Kingdom.

Gamma Communications H1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Positive Sentiment: Gamma delivered 12% revenue growth and 14% EBITDA growth in H1, upgraded its EPS target, and plans to return over £60 m to shareholders this year through dividends and buybacks.
• Negative Sentiment: The UK SME segment was weighed down by macroeconomic caution, aggressive fiber-pricing competition and PSTN switch-off costs of £1.5 m in H1 and a forecast £6 m headwind in 2026.
• Positive Sentiment: Germany now contributes ~20% of group revenue with over 125% growth from cloud-focused acquisitions like Starface and PlaceTel, leaving more than 80% of the enterprise market still to convert.
• Neutral Sentiment: Gamma maintains strong cash conversion above 90% and a net debt position of £21 m under a £130 m RCF, underpinning a balanced approach to M&A and shareholder returns.
• Positive Sentiment: Future growth will be propelled by strategic M&A, new managed-services deals with O2 Daisy and Clear Business, and enhanced products including AI-powered contact centers and upgraded PhoneLine Plus features.

Presentation

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Well, good morning everybody and thank you to both of you who've got through the Chief Strike and turned up. But thank you to everybody who's dialing in and watching us on video. It's good to know that video conferencing is alive and well and we may talk about that a little bit this morning. For those of you who don't know me, I'm Andrew Belshaw. I'm Gamma's CEO.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And I'm absolutely delighted to be presenting our first half results for 2025. Joining me a bit later is Bill Castel, our CFO. This is what we're to talk about this morning. So it's a fairly standard agenda. But without further ado, let me tell you how we got on in the first half of this year.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We are really, really pleased and really proud of what we've managed to do in the 2025 against actually quite difficult economic back backdrop in both The U. K. And also in Germany. As you see there, our revenue is growing at 12%, but we also grew EBITDA 14%, which Bill will come and talk to. And this morning, we're upgrading our EPS target for the year as well, which is, as I say, an achievement I think against a backdrop.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

How have we managed to do that in difficult circumstances? Fundamentally, we've done it through acquisitions as well as organic. We've bought really well and we'll talk about some of the things we've acquired in Germany. And we've generated a lot of cash as well. So what we've been able to do is buy well and also return a number of cash to shareholders.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And so far in the first half of this year, we've returned over £50,000,000 And based on the dividend we've announced this morning by the end of the year, we'll have returned £60,000,000 to shareholders. So we had a fantastic good first half of the year. We've generated lots of cash and we've done good M and A and we've also returned cash to shareholders as well. In terms of some of the highlights and some of the things that I wanted to pull out, we're excited about the traction that our U. K.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

SME business has got what we call Gamma business where we're selling small and medium sized businesses through our channel partners. We've continued to increase volumes in all of our core solutions. So all of the products that we feel should be growing at this stage in the economy, they're all growing, which is great. Why are they growing? Well, fundamentally they're great solutions, but also we spent a lot of time and effort on building out our portal.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Our portal now makes our customer order journeys a lot easier. It's easier for people to buy things from us and that's what they're doing. And we've also worked with our partners to deliver new solutions for them. And throughout the course of the morning, we'll spend a bit of time talking about a deal that we've done with O2 Daisy, where we've helped them with a platform that they've acquired that we're offering them a managed service to look after that platform. And also a deal that we've done with one of our larger partners Clear Business to provide first line support to their customers.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So it's not just about providing solutions, we're now providing managed services as well to some of our larger partners, which just helps strengthen that relationship and also inevitably drives more revenue for Gamma. Enterprise has also done really well. And in a minute, I'll talk to you about some case studies, just demonstrating our ability to upsell and cross sell based on some of the acquisitions we've made. And inevitably this morning, we'll spend some time talking about Germany where we're really proud of what we've done, what we've achieved, what we've integrated and the trajectory that we're on. I'm conscious there's people in the room who may not know very much about Gamma.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I'm conscious that there's almost certainly people watching us on the video who may not know very much about Gamma. So what I wanted to do is just go back to first principles really and just remind you why we think Gamma is a fantastic business and also why we think Gamma is a fantastic investment. Every single company, there is no company that survives without having a communications provider. Everybody needs, whether it's video, whether it's voice, whether it's instant messaging, all businesses need to communicate with their suppliers, with their employees. And Gamma is a market leader in The U.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

K. And Germany. And comms is fantastic because everything sold recurring revenue, multiyear contracts is very, very predictable, margins are stable, cash generation is very good. And as I said earlier, we've been using that cash to do high quality M and A and also to return cash to shareholders. So we think we're in a really privileged position.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Gamma is actually quite a unique business. And one of the problems that we have, as many of you who have worked with us for some time know, is there's nobody really quite like Gamma. It's very difficult for me to explain Gamma in the context of other businesses. So we try and explain what Gamma is and what Gamma does like this. We have some fantastic relationships with these businesses, people like Amazon, Cisco, Microsoft, great hyperscalers who produce fantastic communications solutions these days.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

But they need a route to market. And what Gamma is able to do is we can take the solutions that these guys develop and we can put them through our local distribution reach all across Europe, reaching thousands of enterprise customers, tens of thousands of small businesses. And really, we're fairly unique in that, but that's not all we do. We're not merely a distributor. We're a telecoms operator at heart.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We have our own network. We're able to provide people with telephone numbers. We're able to connect calls to and from the public telephony network. So we're taking these solutions, these platforms that these people spend an awful lot of money developing, we plug them into the Gamma network, so they just work with phone numbers. And we offer a managed service to all of these end users.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And it's not just that. We provide a fantastic quality of service through the portal. I mentioned that earlier. We spent a lot of money on the portal. So we're taking all of that, we're making it very, very easy to consume.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And that puts us in a unique position, working with the hyperscalers, linking them into our network, producing or making it easy to consume through our portal and through the service that we provide, so that all of these customers, all of them who need that communication solution I talked about earlier, can buy it from Gamma. And that fundamentally is the business model that we operate. Basically, we provide three things, and businesses need pretty much all of these three things, and we've talked about it already. The first thing we provide at the top there is a cloud communications platform. So you will hear many, many acronyms and it's just like a really bad scrabble hand.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

People talk about PBXs and CX and CC and CPaaS and CCaaS and and all those things. But just think of a cloud communications platform like this. You can do video calling with it. You can do voice calling. You can actually make calls using phone numbers.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I use that to do a phone call. There's probably about two people who understand why you might use that motion for making a phone call. But if you're as old as me, you'll remember. So you might still make voice calls. You might do instant messaging.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And you'll do all of those things with your communications platform. Some of those at the bottom end of the market, we produce ourselves, so things like Phone Line Plus. And as I mentioned earlier, we work with the Ciscos, Ericss and LGs as well to provide top end products. Calling, we've talked about a couple of times. We don't just sell those communications platforms.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We plug them into our network, so that they just work out of the box and enable you to use phone numbers. If you haven't yet moved to the cloud and you're still using a hardware phone system, as 40% of people in The U. K. Are and 80% of people in Germany, we have a product called SIP trunking that enables you just to make and receive calls to the public telephony network, just dialing 207 numbers to be able to make a voice call. But many people now are using Teams.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

They're using an Amazon solution. They're using a Cisco solution. We use exactly the same technology to enable you not just to do video with those solutions, but to be able to make voice calls as well. And then we also work with some of the really big global cloud comms providers that you'll see in the top corner of the Gartner Magic Quadrant, who don't have a network in The U. K.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And Gamma provides them wholesale services, and that's what we call our service provider business. So we leverage the power of our network to add value to those communications platforms. And then finally, we do connectivity, Ethernet, broadband, mobile, these days IoT as well. And we do that on a very CapEx like basis. We're not digging up roads to lay our own fiber.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We're not going out putting masks in the countryside. We partner with people like BT, PXC to provide Ethernet broadband. And we partner with Voda three and EE to provide mobile services to people. So between all of that, we think we have everything that any business could possibly need in order to communicate with, say, with its customers and with its suppliers. And hopefully, to try and bring some of that to life, let me give you an example.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Morrisons is one of our large enterprise customers. You probably know that because we've talked about it a few times. And back in March 2024, Morrisons approached us because they wanted to improve their network. They wanted to improve their in store Wi Fi. Why did they want to do that?

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Well, had a business need to be able to do that. They had an e commerce partnership with Amazon that meant that they needed to have much better in store WiFi. They also wanted their customers to have an in store WiFi experience as well, partly because people seem to want to watch things as they're going around the supermarket and partly because their loyalty scheme was both mobile based and they needed people to be able to access things on their mobile in store. And their existing in store WiFi just wasn't quite working for them. Gamma displaced an incumbent that they've had working with them for twelve years.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And we built a network that serves 400 large Morrison supermarkets and 1,200 of the smaller convenience stores. It provides really good quality WiFi in store. Why did we win that? Well, yes, inevitably, it comes down to commercials a little bit. But fundamentally, we listened to Morrisons.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We understood the business problems that they were trying to solve, and we solved them for Morrisons. So we've won the network, which is fantastic, and that's a great starting point. But then roll on a little while and the PSTN network, the public telephony network, the old copper network, BT is switching that off soon. And Morrison's wanted to get a little bit ahead of the curve on that. And those 1,200 convenience stores that they had, they just had old legacy single lines going into the stores.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And that was problematic, a, because the technology was going but b, because a lot of people in those stores were just spending time answering the phone. They were answering the phone with fundamentally the same queries about what time are you opening, what time are you closed. So we put a PhoneLine Plus into those 1,200 stores. It's our single line replacement product. It's designed for smaller businesses, but actually it works for Morrisons because those 1,200 convenience stores don't behave like one large organization.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

They actually replace behave like 1,200 smaller businesses. And what Phone Plus was able to do is it brought things like an IVR so that actually for the most basic queries, what time do open and shut, you can deal with that on an automated voice response. You don't need a person to answer the phone. PhoneLine Plus also works with deck phones, so actually people could just carry the phones around the store with them. PhoneLine Plus also enables you to divert calls to the head office if that's what you need to do when a store is shut.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So what it enables people in store to do is spend less time answering the phone, more time serving customers and fundamentally gives Morrison's customers a better experience and it saves Morrison's a bit of money. I think coming on to April 2025. As you'll all be well aware, there was a period in Q1 when a lot of British supermarkets were undergoing cyber attacks. We were actually already working with Morrisons on a cyber solution. We were partnering with Cisco to take a cyber solution to Morrisons and we were testing it.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We were piloting it when Morrisons had an attack. And the pilot that we had in place was able to deflect that attack. And what better testament for us than to be able to win business. So we now have a secure connectivity project in play with Morrisons. And in terms of the revenue that we made, it's about 120% more well, 20% more.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So it's 120% what we started with. So 20% more revenue that we're making at this end than we were over there, just through that kind of upsell motion as we take that big portfolio of solutions we've got into one of our key customers. This customer is Lexington and Co, our solicitors. Now hopefully, you've never heard of them. And the reason I'm saying hopefully you've never heard of them is because we made them up.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

It's not a real customer, but it's indicative of the type of customers or small businesses that our 1,000 channel partners work with in The U. K. On a day to day basis. And we have tens of thousands of companies like this that Gamma works with. So if you can imagine a small legal practice in a provincial town in The U.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

K. Maybe operating out of one office, the sort of place where you go to get your will done or the sort of place where you go to get some conveyancing, that's Lexington. And if you think back to 2010, what they would have had is probably a series of single lines just going into their building, single phone lines like you that you're paying line rental for each month. And the first thing we'd have done through a partner back in 2010 is we'd have sold them SIP trunking. So it's Gamma SIP trunking.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

At that point, we're not replacing their hardware phone system that they're using to put you on hold or to divert your call around the building or run their voice mail. We're just giving a better voice experience and a cheaper voice experience through SIP. And then hopefully, what we do once we've sold them SIP trunking is we actually upsell our Doctor products on top of that. So we have something called SIP trunk Call Manager. So in the winter, when it's snowy and nobody can get into the office, they can divert calls directly to the home.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

You can't do that with a hardware box, but you can do it with GammaSip trunking going into that hardware box. Why is that important? Well, if you ever dealt with a lawyer, you know that if they're on the phone to you, they're billing you, so they kind of like being able to connect those calls. So this is really just a revenue generation tool for them as well as a customer service tool. And then as they get big, they open a second office.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And rather than keep their existing copper based broadband, we sell them Gamma Ethernet. They have a much bigger bandwidth. They can get rid of all of those legal books that lawyers like on their shelves because now they're just going into the Internet and they can have a really good Internet experience because Ethernet gives you the bandwidth to do that. It also enables you to start networking two offices together as they expand. And then as you come over here to sort of 2020, COVID hits and you have a whole bunch of lawyers sitting at home using Teams a lot, thinking actually this is quite good.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Do we actually need that hardware box anymore? Probably not. So what we can do now is we can move the phone numbers that we've been using for years and years and years onto Teams so we can answer calls and make calls using Teams. Because, again, lawyers, not everything is a video call. When they're phoning their clients, they're not setting up a video call every time.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

If they're just phoning to one small thing on a will that you want writing, they're not going to do a video call for that. They will just phone you. They need to be using phone numbers as many small businesses do. And if you remember from some of the things that Bill's talked about before, when we go through that motion of moving from SIP trunking to Operator Connect, typically, double our ARPU. So this is a great thing for Gamma that they've chosen to work with Microsoft and they've chosen to take Operator Connect and moved on from SIP trunking.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And the story doesn't end there because what we do in the future is we'll work with companies like Lexington to provide them with security. So we have a great product called Candio. It's an upsell product. And what that does is it just lets Lexington know if any of their, customer data has been stolen and is sitting on the dark web. I'm sure over time as well they'll open more offices and they'll need that Ethernet turned into an SD WAN.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I'm sure they'll work out that actually Teams doesn't quite do everything they needed it to do. It doesn't quite do everything that Box did. And they might want Teams to work with a Cisco product or IPEX or maybe even Gamma's Horizon product to give them more functionality around call routing, and we can do all of that. They may want it connecting in some sort of CRM system or in some sort of contact system, and we can do all of that as well. And again, I hope you can see that, that portfolio of products and services that Gamma has, we can use and are using to upsell for the biggest businesses like Morrison's and these small regional local businesses as well.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So hopefully, if you're new to the Gamma store, sorry, it took a little while, that just helps you understand a little bit about what Gamma is about and what we do. Let's talk a little bit about the market in the first half of the year. And we'll kind of start with this slide. And what we're doing is for the last eighteen months, think, probably the last three times that we've been to present on a set of results, we've identified these four growth drivers that we've talked about consistently. And one of the features that Bill will come and talk about at the moment is actually The U.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

K. Business isn't quite growing at the rate that we were hoping it would grow at this point. And why is that? Well, as you can see there, we think the markets are still there and I'll come and talk to why we think that is at the moment. I think our execution is good.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I don't think it's been great. I think it's been good. But the macro is really hurting us. As we said when we did our full year results in March, ever since the budget in November, we've seen reduced levels of activity in small businesses in The U. K.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We've seen fewer people starting a small business. We've seen fewer people growing a small business. And that macro has been causing us a bit of a problem. But we believe over time, at some point, the macro will improve. We believe the markets are there and we believe we have the solutions and we believe we can get the execution right to be able to still exploit these growth drivers.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So if you look at the top thing, customers needing more complex solutions. Part of the reason of going through those two demonstrate to you that we have the solution portfolio to upsell into our customer base. At the moment, we're finding a lot of customers are very nervous about spending money and they're not necessarily making that upsell motion. But we think the market is there. We think the execution is there.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We think when the macro comes back, we'll be in a really good place. PSTN switch off, it's less to do with the macro. This is more to do with BT turning off the legacy phone network in 2027. So we think that will happen. In terms of the market, we have a fantastic opportunity to be selling to businesses who've been using a single line who need to move to a cloud product.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And that's why we built PhoneLine Plus and you see that PhoneLine Plus units grew quite a lot in the first half of this year. So we're pleased with how Phone 11 Plus is doing. We've also indicated a headwind and we've been indicating this over the last few years. Customers who are using copper based ADSL broadband need to move to fiber. And bluntly, we make less money on that.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And it's going to cost about £5,000,000 of GP over the course of the next year eighteen months as people move from ADSL onto fibre. We're just going to see that one off headwind. When it's gone, it's gone. But that's why we kind of call that bit of the market a bit red. In terms of our execution there, Phone Line Plus is now a much better product than it was in the first six months of the year.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So think Phone Line Plus did well. I think it could have done better. And I think we will execute better in the second half of this year. Now we've got additional things that you can add on to Phone Line Plus, things like being able to use it with eSIM, things like being able to integrate it with WhatsApp. Phone Line Plus is now a better product.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We also have better fibre products. We're selling fiber products from more fiber providers and we'll be adding new fiber providers to the portal throughout H2. So I think our execution could have been better in H1. It will be better in H2. We also talked about SiP converting to other things.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And I mentioned Lexington, they moved SiP to Operator Connect and that doubled the revenue for us, which was fantastic. Again, we're not seeing you can see the sort of figures in the first half of this year for those of you that sort of track our SiP numbers, fewer people have been moving away from SIP in the first half of the year. And that's just a macro thing. People just aren't really doing anything at the moment. People are just sticking with what they've got.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

The market is absolutely there. In the first half of the year, we didn't have Cisco fully launched. Cisco is completely launched in October. We're still putting something like 100, 200 seats a week on to Cisco in The U. K.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

At the moment. We're putting 2,005 a month on Cisco in Germany. But in The U. K, it's about 100, 200 a week at the moment. We've still not launched it.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

It's a very sorry, still not launched it properly. It's a very manual process. That will all be automated from October and we expect to see that take up increase. And that's really aimed at a lot of these SIP businesses. Germany.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Let's not forget that the German macro is not great either, but we have a fantastic business in Germany and we are really, really proud of what we've achieved and what our German teams have achieved in the first half of this year. We think the way that Starface is going to sort of perform throughout the rest of this year, we suspect that the multiple we acquired Starface for is going to come out to be about 11.5 times EBITDA. As I said at the beginning, we think we've bought well. I think our entire German business is actually going to end up having been bought on single digit EBITDA multiple, which for a business that's doing double digit growth, I think we've bought well in a really exciting market. You can see the size of our business.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Revenue is over £50,000,000 for the first half, so it will be over £100,000,000 for the year. EBITDA just under £11,000,000 for the first half, so that will be up into the 20s up for the full year over 5,000,000 seats. 29,000 Cloud seats put on in Germany is actually slightly more than we put on in The U. K. In the first half as well.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And it's really, really exciting thing about Germany is this market potential. It's not like the whole of Bavaria has converted to cloud and nowhere else has. It's just illustrative. But basically, it's only 20%. Some people say it's near 15% of the German market has converted to cloud.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We've still got 80% of the largest business communications market in Europe to convert to the products and the solutions that we sell. So we just kind of carry on executing and we carry on growing. But it's so much more than that. We have the opportunity to do more M and A, have the opportunity to do some things with Teams and Operator Connect is now launched in Germany. Connectivity is really important in The U.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

K. Ethernet and broadband contributes 20% of our GP. In Germany, it's only 2%. We can do some things with Enterprise and we can do some things with Service Providers. So as I stand here, I am very, very confident that those growth drivers that we've been talking about will continue to take Gamma going forward.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Yes, we've got poor macro. Yes, we've got some headwinds. But we can see growth going into 2026, going into 2027 and far beyond that because of the fundamentals of our industry. And with that, I'm going to hand over to Bill, who is going to talk about the financials for the first half of year. Thanks, Bill.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Good morning, and thank you to those in the room for making it through the underground chaos. I'm Bill Castel. I'm Gamma's CFO. Following a CEO's formerly been a CFO, he was always going to put some financial numbers in the first half, but I will expand on those. I've got around nine slides.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Those who know Gamma will recognize many of the slides. We've been very busy in this 2025, so I've included a slide that takes us from reported numbers to adjusted because we've had the Starface acquisition and not forgetting moving to the main market, the FTSE two fifty entering the market in May the second and the FTSE two fifty shortly thereafter in June. So moving on, the first slide, Andrew highlighted that revenue was up 12% to £316,600,000 You'll notice double digit growth across all of the top here. Adjusted EBITDA was up 14% to £70,900,000 and adjusted EPS it all flowed through. So EPS was up 13% to 47.9 p.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

A lot of that heavily supported by our acquisition Starface also not forgetting Placetel both of which we didn't own in the 2024. That flowed through to cash. So the top was P and L. At the bottom you can see our strong cash generation that was at 90% on adjusted cash conversion at £63,700,000 We moved into a net debt position should be no surprise. We bought Starface on February 19 and used a lot of the cash that was outstanding at the 2024 and moved into a slight net debt position of 21,600,000.0, which I'll cover later on as we have a revolving credit facility of up to 130,000,000, so well within that credit facility.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I changed the title of the bottom right. It used to just be dividends, but we have now returned twice. Once in 2024, we returned GBP 27,300,000.0. This year it was 45 sorry, this half was GBP 45,100,000.0 by a share buyback and we've continued with our progressive dividend policy up 14% at 7.4 p for the half year dividend. That brings the cash that we've announced this year to £64,100,000 so that was the final dividend we paid at the beginning of the year, the share buyback and today the £6,900,000 thereabouts.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So it gives you an indication of the amount of cash not only are we doing M and A, but certainly a balanced capital allocation approach and returning cash to shareholders. Now going on to the main principle statements, the income statement. Here I've already talked about some of the headline double digit growth, but let me just kind of remind you of a few other characteristics of Gamma, which are consistent with prior periods. In actual fact, our recurring revenue was up 1% to 90%, so 90% of Gamma's revenue is recurring at £285,300,000 We also saw an improvement in the gross profit margin. You'll see there over two seventy basis points moving 51.6% to 54.3%.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So the gross profit margin flow through actually to an EBITDA margin, slight improvement of 40 basis points. But that EBITDA that gross profit margin was heavily led by the German business. 75% of our German business is now in the cloud communication space, which is in the high 70s, 80s, 90s gross profit margin. So Germany now represents around 20 of our gross profit and therefore feeds through to that gross profit margin, but I'll go through that in more detail shortly. I've already talked about the double digit EBITDA growth.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We did have some exceptional and adjusting items which I will go forward, but those are mainly relating to the Starface acquisition and the main listing. And as you will see at the bottom, our PBT was up 9%. Previous periods we did have interest income from that cash balance. In prior periods obviously we used that cash for the Starface acquisition and that's why the adjusted profit before tax is slightly lower than double digit, but still a very healthy 9%. And adjusted EPS because we use that cash to buy back shares, when we look at the weighted average shares outstanding those have gone down and therefore we're at 13%, 13% growth year on year on adjusted EPS.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I'll go through the business units now. We'll start off with Gamma business. Andrew has already mentioned the challenging UK macro environment, so I won't go through more of that. Our organic growth is very similar, what is the same as our headline growth because of we didn't have any acquisitions year on year within the Gamma business segment. And so you can see revenue growth of 1% and flat at the gross profit level.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Andrew alluded to some of the macro, but we also had the connectivity structural impact of around eighteen months we believe, which is relating to the PSTN switch off, which impacted us 1,500,000.0 in the half. And when I come back to the modeling assumptions going forward, we'll talk about how that's following through in '25 and '26. There were a couple other things associated with voice traffic with a specific customer, HRC, which if you phoned up to get your tax returns in, you'll know they've become more efficient, so less traffic going through there. And then there's also as the SIP PBX does get rationalized, albeit the level of churn in our SIP PBX when you look at our volumes actually reduced compared to the prior periods. We had 30,000 trunks come off compared to a higher number in the previous three halves.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And then gross profit without those kind of structural elements would have been an underlying 3% rather than the flat number you saw there. If we move on to enterprise, there is a difference between the headline and organic here, which you can see on the tables on the graphs on the right hand side. So revenue was up 9%, 3% organic, and gross profit was up 7%, flat similar to Gamma business. And it's a similar story. The m and a was BrightCloud, if you remember that transaction we did in the Cisco CX space, which has allowed the gross profit to be up at 7%.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Similar to Gamma business, there are with the Ethernet, we're seeing pricing challenges, which resulted in a CHF1 million reduction in the half versus half $1.20 24. Without that gross profit would have been an underlying 3%. Key wins, Morrison's at the bottom, I won't go through. You've just seen the case study, that's the last part of that, the Gamma Secure. Utility, we had SD WAN, and Westminster City Council, Microsoft Teams.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Just to prove the case studies to say the variety of communication products and solutions we're providing our enterprise customers. Oh, sorry. There we go. Now, Germany. As I mentioned previously, Germany is now 20% of the group and 79% of Europe.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

As a result, I alluded to this at the year end back in March for twenty twenty four year end results, Germany is going be bought out and has been now as a separate business unit given its contribution and profitability to the overall group on that side. Not often do you sit down or stand up even and present 125% year on year growth in revenue or even 251% growth in gross profit, but I think that shows the size of the acquisition both Starface and Playstyle. Starface now representing nearly 60% of the overall German business on that side. Organically, gross profit did grow 4% in Germany. And in actual fact, if you know our former, well, we still have the HFO business, but we do have mobile and other businesses.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

When you look at the UCaaS side, that was growing at 6% on an organic basis pre pre PlayStell and pre Starface. So across the board, Germany has been growing on that side. You can see, as I alluded to right at the beginning on the first slide, our gross profit margins have jumped significantly from 43.4% to 70%, and that is the mix I was talking about with Starface and Placetel being cloud communications, both of those within the eighties, one at the bottom end of the eighties, one at the top end of the eighties of gross profit margin. Sorry. I should just allude shouldn't forget Spain and Netherlands.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Those have been categorized as other Europe now. There are details in the RNS towards the back end of that. Those both grew at the EBITDA level and just now represent just under 5% of our group gross profit. So Spain and Netherlands still very important, but clearly Germany is now the main part of our European business. I put the word strong balance sheet in there.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I just wanted to reiterate the strength that we had there. Net debt of of 21,600,000.0, as I said before, we do have a borrowings of 46,800,000.0 on the RCF, which allows us 83,000,000 of liquidity because we have a 130,000,000 RCF. A lot of the changes you see in the balance sheet are related to the Starface transaction. You can see the increase in intangible assets, in the non current assets, and the knock on impacts on that. When you look at the retained earnings, we are generating profit after tax.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

As a result of the share buyback, we canceled many of the share well, all of these shares on the 45,100,000.0. Those are a deduction at the retained earnings, so that's why when you look at the thirty first December twenty twenty four versus thirty June on twenty twenty five, you will see the retained earnings has come down as a result of those cancellation of those shares. The deferred consideration has gone up as a result of our play still. Some of you will recall that we have a committed spend with Cisco and as a result part of that has come through as a deferred consideration. So moving on to cash flow.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Straight in the first slide, I talked about 90% cash conversion. You'll see here as well, I mentioned at year end that it was likely that CapEx would increase and that has gone up to 9,600,000.0. That is similar to the H2 twenty twenty four, H1 twenty twenty four. We alluded that that would be a low point of our CapEx and I will in a moment guide you in the modeling assumptions where we feel the year end is going to come through on that. Cash at the end of the period, 25,200,000.0.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

When you take off the 46.8, that's where you get to the net debt of 21,600,000.0. Very healthy cash as of this morning before opening, it was an 8% cash yield. Don't know where we are now, but I know there was a positive response this morning to our results, so that would now be in the 7% on that side of things. So we've returned, as you see on the slide, 57,200,000.0 to shareholders through a combination of share repurchases and dividends. When you add the dividend just announced, that gets to the 64,100,000.0 that I mentioned right at the beginning.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

But very attractive approach and I should say the capitalized although CapEx has gone up, the capitalization rate is very similar to h 02/2024. So when you look at the percentage rate in the RNS, you'll see it's very similar to h 02/2024. This is the new slide. So what this slide does is walks left to right from our reported EBITDA to our adjusted measure and then on the bottom similarly operating cash flow to adjusted. You can see that the two principal items are the ones I've mentioned before, the Starface acquisition costs, those are one off transaction costs related to our purchase.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And then the moon move from AIM to main, again, that is a one off as we as we move to the main listing and the FTSE two fifty. The ERP implementation continues. The HR system is up and live and running. These this is the final parts as we go into h two should be the final expenditure on the Microsoft Dynamics in relation to The UK. We're still assessing now we've got a bigger German business, the rollout of Dynamics in the future into Germany on that side.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I always wanted to show as well that the adjustments don't just go up, some go down. We did make 1,400,000.0 on the FX associated with the USD US dollar versus pound exchange rate. However, this is as we see FX and not to do with the operations of the business, And therefore, we have stripped that out of our EBITDA in the H1 results that you've seen. More to do with the operating cash flow, both with the Playtell acquisition Starface, there was cash related to specific parts of the deal. The PlaceTel was in relation to employee and pensions.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We received cash as part of the deal with PlaceTel, and we've used that cash to pay off, so that's a one off transaction cost more related to the M and A than operating the business. And then the Starface, if I just spend a few seconds explaining this, Starface have a attractive working capital and respect that they bill for maintenance cost upfront in January, February for the twelve months following. And we bought Starface in February, so they'd already collected that cash. So if you look within the RNS, you will see actually there was a large part of cash that we inherited or purchased with the balance sheet of Starface, and that was just collecting the cash upfront. We've recognized as you would the EBITDA and revenue through the period in line with when that maintenance was provided, and therefore this is just a one off in this year because we'll be in a fortunate position for cash conversion purposes that in January, February we will be doing the same and receiving all the cash upfront for the next twelve months.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So that's something positive to look forward to in H1 twenty twenty six in relation to cash collection. The final slide where I see a lot of the analysts in the room perk up. On that side, this is the modeling considerations. As the RNS said and Andrew said in his first statement, we're pleased to say that we are confirming that we are happy with the range of adjusted EBITDA out there in the market with consensus. You'll see in the footnote at the bottom there that's a range of GBP 139,400,000.0 to GBP 143,100,000.0 adjusted EBITDA for 2025 for the full year and we're happy that we were in that range.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

On the adjusted EPS, actually we've announced today that we feel that we'll be slightly above the range. So the top of the range there is 93.9p. We're saying we're to be slightly above that 93.9p. So that's the guidance into relation to the full year 2025 or I should say modeling considerations. Cash conversion, this half is 90%.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We continue as I have for the last three years say that this is a 90% plus business in relation to cash conversion, reiterating that. CapEx expected to be in the range of 21,000,000 to 24,000,000, which is a bit up. The second half will be a bit up from the first half of the year as we have the full Starface capitalization coming through. Now the next bit is actually relation to 2026. So we're not formally guiding to to any numbers in 2026 as we have done in other years.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We don't do it at this point in time. However, we did want to iterate since we have raised this headwind in 2025 to explain the headwind in 2026 in relation to PSTN and connectivity. We've highlighted that to be CHF6 million in gross profit for our 2026 numbers. And we've also highlighted as well as our growth initiatives that are ongoing that we have taken a view as an ongoing operational efficiencies to review our UK business since we've been growing substantially the last ten, fifteen years and identified some efficiencies that can be made there, the total on a run rate basis and it will be entering 2026. So this restructuring is taking place in this fourth quarter, there'll be a run rate saving of 6 to 8,000,000, which at least offsets, if not more, the 6,000,000 headwinds that we've just mentioned.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So those are modeling assumptions that we're sharing now. There will be a restructuring costs associated, one off restructuring costs with some of that headcount. As you will see in the RNS, we talked about up to 5% of the 2,200 workforce. Just to reiterate, this is a UK based restructure not gamma wide continued investment in particular in Germany going forward. With that, I'll conclude and hand over back to Andrew to talk a bit more about the business outlook and further move on to Q and A after that.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Thank you very much indeed. Yeah. Let's talk about the future. We think the future is bright. The future is purple maybe.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I don't know. As Bill said, we are very confident as we sort of sit here nearly three quarters of the way through the year in the outlook for 2025. We're very happy with where you as the analyst community have got us. I said at the beginning that gamma is predictable. We have lots of visibility.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So it'd be remiss of us not to say something about 2026. As Bill said, we don't guide to 2026. But we're able to see even now what we think the headwinds are going to be. But we're also able to see what growth initiatives we've got and I'll talk to those in a second. And we're also able to see where we can be a little bit more efficient in the way we operate.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So actually as we sit here, we're reasonably confident in where we're going to turn out in 2026. Let's just talk about some of those growth drivers. And these are growth drivers that will take us through 2026 into 2027 and in some cases well into the 2030s. I hope you've seen this morning and one of the reasons we spent a bit of time doing the case studies is we have a really strong solution set. I know sometimes it can be quite complicated because we do things with Microsoft and we do things with Cisco and we've got lots and lots of things and we've got more things.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We're introducing new variants of Phone Line Plus that will both increase the addressable market and increase the ARPU that we can get from that solution. Contact center is becoming a big thing, AI powered contact center. Even into smaller businesses like Lexington that we talked about earlier on that may never have had a contact center may not think it needed one. But fundamentally, we think they'll be buying some contact center type products going forward. We're introducing more fiber providers and AI is going to be more and more core to everything we do.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And we feel we can monetize that because as our customers use AI in their communications products that will save them costs and therefore we are adding value to their business and we feel it ought to be monetized. So we think we've got we know we've got a complicated solution set. Unfortunately, it's going to get more complicated, but that will give us a bigger addressable market, bigger share of wallet. Remmery talked this morning about our edge proposition, but we have a phenomenal amount of data on our end customers and what they do and the calls that they make. And we can use AI tools to work with our partners to identify what business is doing in the round, what different types of businesses are doing.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And then we can help our partners market into certain segments and certain sectors of the economy that will help our channel partners grow. And Edge is very exciting. And if you follow Gamma on LinkedIn, which you really should do, you will see more about Edge. We have the potential to gain large blocks of seats. We talked this morning about the arrangement that we've got with O2 Daisy, where we've effectively taken in the platform that Daisy acquired on one of their recent acquisitions.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Running a small subscale platform is now really expensive. The regulatory regime in The U. K. Makes that hard. And we're talking to more of our partners about similar types of deals that just bring us a bigger market share and a bigger opportunity to earn revenue and margin.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And we're also talking to our partners about the type of deal that we did with Clear Business, where we can offer first line support to their customers. Again, it just frees up our partners to go and do what they do really, really well selling. Don't have to worry about running a platform. Don't have to worry about first line support. We can do all of that for them.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We can give them the smarts with the Edge program and our partners can go and accelerate their businesses. And that's true across the whole of Europe. It's not just restricted to The UK, but The U. K. Market is more mature.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So you see these things happening in The U. K. Earlier than Germany. Germany, the maturity of the market means that German market is going to grow for ten years, at least ten years. It's 20% penetrated.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We've said many, many times the German market today looks and feels like The U. K. Market felt ten years ago. We think we've got a lot of growth to come. And not just in Germany.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Remember, a lot of our German business is digital through PlaceTel. And I'm sure when I'm here in twelve months' time talking to you, we'll have been talking about how we're moving PlaceTel outside of Germany and looking at doing a digital offering in some adjacent countries. Our partnerships with people like Cisco, Microsoft, Amazon have never been stronger. And again in twelve months' time, I'm sure I will be mentioning new logos of new people that we're partnering with to bring new solutions to those thousands of businesses that our distribution channel reaches across Europe. We're working really, really well together with some of these big global giants.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And as they improve their products and they improve their solutions, we carry on knitting them into our network, making them accessible on our portal to be able to take them to thousands of end users. And then finally, the one we haven't really talked about very much this morning, but we can cover in Q and A, our Service Provider business where we're providing effectively an outsourced network to some of those other businesses that run cloud communications platforms. We do that really, really well in The U. K. It's growing well in The U.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

K. And we said before, over the course of the next eighteen months, so throughout 2026 and into 2027, we will be taking that outside of The U. K. Into Europe and possibly even beyond Europe, following our customers wherever they go around the globe. And we see that as well-being a growth driver for us.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So as we sit here today, I'm really encouraged by 2025. I'm really encouraged by the visibility we've got in 2026. And I can see growth coming from so many different areas in the business. And you come back to the fundamentals of Gamma. Every single business needs a communications provider, and we are market leading in the two largest economies in Europe.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Revenues are recurring. All of those solutions that we've talked about, the Solar Managed Services recurring revenue basis, they're high margin, stable margin, cash generative. And that cash, as we said before, it gives us the opportunity to do M and A, to do things like PlaceTel, to do things like Starface, to look for other businesses in Germany and across the rest of Europe and maybe even further afield over time. But it also gives us the ability to return cash to shareholders. As Bill said, we'll return over £60,000,000 cash to our shareholders this year as well as doing good quality accretive M and A.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So we think the Gamma story is a good one. We think the first half is good. We think the future is good. And I'm very, very pleased with where the business has been in the first half of this year and where we're going going forward. So with that, we'll stop and we will hand over to Q and A.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And I just need to change my glasses. Otherwise, can't see who's asking. Harvey, go on. We have got a mic, sorry. Yes. No, we are organized.

[Harvey Robinson, Senior Technology Analyst at Panmure Liberum]

Hi. Thanks for taking the question. It's Harvey Robinson from Panmulibram. Just a couple of questions on organic growth. In Germany, obviously, GP organic growth.

[Harvey Robinson, Senior Technology Analyst at Panmure Liberum]

But could you remind us why you mentioned at the time in the staff, there's still some shift going on there and there in terms of revenue growth. Can you just unpack why revenue growth is less so, certainly as stated in the statement, for German organic growth? And then obviously headwinds in The UK, do you have a feel for how much that has sort of held you back in organic terms on the revenue side? I mean, just speculation. Have you seen much downshifting to Phone Line Plus within customer base?

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Great. So I think the the two questions, if I take The UK first, Andrew, you know, talked about it. We did grow net adds in the cloud communications by 23,000 in The UK. So although we say gross profit is flattish, we are still growing volume. You hit the nail on the head there.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

When we look at the nature of that volume growth, we've now got a whole suite of products and we're very happy that we do have that suite. We have Horizon which retails at $7.95. You have Phone Line Plus at $3.95. We have IPEX which is somewhere between the two near the top end. And you're spot on when we look at those net adds, more of those have been in the phone line plus space than the horizon.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And that is related to the macroeconomic environment where we're finding businesses that, you know, they need cloud communications, but given the economic environment of choosing the cheaper one, which is great while we have Phone Line Plus. And we are building we call it internally Phone Line Plus Plus Plus, but it's called Phone Line Office. We're building those similar to what we did with Horizon with the bolt ons. We have that with Phone Line Plus where you can have WhatsApp integration amongst many other things. So we do see an opportunity there to upsell from Phone nine plus but in this half we have seen good healthy growth in Phone nine plus Horizon is still growing net adds, but Phone nine plus and IPEX are growing more than Horizon.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So that's The UK. Hopefully, that answers that question which does relate in a bit of the ARPU conversation that I'm sure we'll have later. The second one in relation to Germany. So when you talk about organic that excludes Starface and Playstells. So I think we've talked about the double digit growth that you have in those businesses.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So organic is more the HFO business, which you're right, was 4% at a gross profit. I did show historically before we had Starface, Placetail, a slide that showed Germany where we looked at cloud communication growth versus traditional what we call traditional revenue, which is more similar, you know, in connectivity. There's not much connectivity by the way in Germany, we only have 2% of our business connectivity versus 20% in The UK. So we see that as a future opportunity. But we do have the mobile excellent business, which is a healthy mobile reseller.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Its margins are closer to 20%, but that revenue is always quite flat. It's, you know, it's not a growing market for mobile. So that brings down the average. So when you actually look at the cloud communication revenue space that in in our organic business, so pre placed on staff base, that was growing about 5.66%. So that business has been growing.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

It's more what we call the traditional revenue and also the mobile revenue that is is brought down the kind of organic story for the revenue versus now cloud communications high margin, so that's why you're seeing this gross profit margin of 4% with the revenue lower because we're selling more of the higher margin product in the HFO. One final comment because he didn't answer it though, is that we bought PlaceTel in September, Starface February. As you can imagine, a lot of focus Starface is our own proprietary software, Playtellers, a lot of the focus although we call organic, think if we hadn't bought Playtell or Starface then the HFO numbers that that kind of 4% gross profit would have been a higher number because the attention has been about growing Starface cloud communications and also Cisco collaboration suite including WebEx through PlayStell. So there's a bit of a, if you like, a reduction in the organic as a result of the focus now moving to the the inorganic with Starface PlayStell.

[Harvey Robinson, Senior Technology Analyst at Panmure Liberum]

I'm just trying to get a feel for what organic, if you like, like for like spot German growth is today.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Yeah. So I think if you look at Starface

[Harvey Robinson, Senior Technology Analyst at Panmure Liberum]

Is the GP a good guide? Is that a good guide?

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Yeah. So I think GP is, and then that with Starface and Playstation, so HFO now represents about 25% of our German business. So 75% is now Playstation and Starface. Those are cloud communication businesses with high gross profit margin growing double digit, which is why we're excited.

[James Lockyer, Equity Analyst, Founder & Chair - Innovation Forum at Peel Hunt]

Hi. It's James Lockyer from Peel Hunt. On the enterprise side of it, was great Morrison's case study there. But I think you've got low single digit market share within that that that space at the moment. Given given the enterprise market is a bit tougher as well, I guess first thing is, can you do you still feel confident in a tough market you can grow there?

[James Lockyer, Equity Analyst, Founder & Chair - Innovation Forum at Peel Hunt]

And that lovely 20% increase in in Morrison's revenue, what do you think your existing customers could do? Is is there option there with existing to expand that? And second question, there are two two for Bill, please. On the 6,000,000 gross profit hits you've mentioned, can you just give a bit of color just around how you got to that number and the confidence around that? Could it be worse than that, I guess, is sort of the main concern.

[James Lockyer, Equity Analyst, Founder & Chair - Innovation Forum at Peel Hunt]

And given you've done eight up to 8,000,000 savings, is that sort of a buffer there? So how should we think about that? And of those that did shift from SIP to cloud in the period, sort of any color around where they went? You know, what proportion went to zero, went to 60p, went to know, just just to give us an idea on that, please. Thank you.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So yes, so Enterprise, we probably haven't spent quite as long talking about that this morning. The Enterprise business, I think, it's probably fair to say it's doing okay. I mean we've been fairly consistent at sort of saying that our view of the macro is that it's hurt the smaller you are as a business, the more it seems to be hurting is what we're seeing. So there's really kind of tiny businesses just don't seem to be doing anything. That's filtered through a little bit to Enterprise, but I wouldn't kind of say we're in sort of full blown recession with Enterprise at all.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We do have and we sort of alluded to this in the R and S, there is a headwind in our Enterprise business around fiber and a lot of the alt nets kind of undercutting each other on pricing. So we're seeing some of those Ethernet prices come down. So just in the interest of full disclosure, I'll give you the sort of Morrison's example when that comes up for renewal in five years on the fiber, you would expect us to get chipped away a little bit on there. So yes, we've got the upsell motion, but you have that as a headwind and we've kind of called that out. And we've taken that into account in our confidence in FY 2026.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I think what we are seeing and hopefully you sort of saw it on Morrison's is where we bought businesses like Satisnet. We didn't really talk about BrightCloud and the contact center side of things this morning. Where we're buying those businesses, we are able to upsell. Now upsell in enterprise and particularly in public sector is not a swift job. It's not like you were walking I mean we didn't sort of put the times of when we first engaged with Morrisons on all of those individual things in there.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

But it wasn't like we just sort of rocked up and got a sale done in twenty four hours. So these things take time. And therefore, sometimes the cross sell motion takes time. And I'm sure we were sort of careful not to kind of say the things we might sell Morison's because they may or may not get upset about it. But I mean I'd be disappointed if we didn't have a conversation with them about a contact center at a point in time because obviously they've got one and they use it.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So when that kind of comes up for grabs, hopefully we can go and bid them and put an excellent bid together. So I think the businesses we bought, they're doing well. SASSANET is doing well. Security side of things is doing well. Again, the very fact we work with people like we kind of get hung up on Cisco a little bit and think it's just all about their collaboration tool and they've got some phenomenal network tools and particularly some phenomenal security tools and we take those particularly into our enterprise businesses.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So I think, yes, we've a really, really strong portfolio and that upsell motion is still very much there, but it's a little bit harder than it was.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Thanks. Questions, James. So I'd take it in reverse order, so talk about SIP PBX first. I think the point is to reiterate, which I hope I got across. SIP PBX in the half went down 30,000.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So it has still gone down. But when you look at half one twenty twenty four, it went down 51,000. So interestingly, if you like, the rate of churn has slowed down, which, you know, does one, obviously SIP PBX generates quite a lot for us. But that migration is happening, but it's not accelerating at this point on that side. Then you look also at another thing that was impressive is that our our Microsoft teams, which we haven't really shouted about net adds was up 56,000.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

That's double that this time last year, so we had 28,000 net adds. The reason why I'm giving this is to explain. So what we're finding in the SIP PBX migration, that those of the addressable market, because there's always gonna be a proportion when people move from SIP to cloud of rationalization where people say, look, there might have been four users per SIP trunk. Do we need you had 10 SIP trunks. Do we need 40?

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And now do we just need 28, 29 users? So there is an element of rationalization which changes over the period. But of the addressable, we definitely feel now we're winning our fair share of Microsoft Teams whereas previously as Andrew alluded to in his execution, we we would probably weren't where we needed to be on that. And we feel we're winning our fair share in the in the cloud communication space. The key bit then goes back to are they moving to Horizon?

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Are they moving to IPEX? Are they moving to Phone Line Plus? More moving to Phone Line Plus because as they make that move, they're going for the cheaper version. Now, we still make more money. We've gone through those dynamics before versus the SIP trunk when they move to our cloud communications, but I would love them to move to the kind of clearly a higher ARPU product.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And then increasingly from October, we're gonna have the Webex suite available as well, which will add to our armory from October onwards going forward on that. So that answers the second part of your question. The first part of your question on on the confidence level, it is structural and therefore we can see how many units of ADSL that we have, for example, on. And there's an assumption since it's January 2027 that the majority, if not all of that moves to the lower margin equivalents of Shijia or other products. And so it is mass.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So we know what we've got. We know what we're moving to. So certainly in regard to the SME business, the Gamma business, it's a mathematical equation. So the only question is if PSTN gets switched out, then the impact in '26 might not be as much and it might get shifted into '27. So the quantum, we know.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

If Jan twenty twenty seven gets hit, then it'll come in '26. If that shifts out, then then time will shift out. There are positives as Andrew said to PSTN, we're highlighting a negative. There are growth initiatives as all of the lines, Soho, small office, home office come off their copper lines. We feel we have more of a chance with Phone Line Plus, especially now with the added features we have to sell more of that going forward.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

On the enterprise side of things, we have looked across all of our contracts to see when they come out for renewal and pricing discussions are going to take place. So we have modeled that very specifically and we've taken quite a conservative view on that in order to make sure that when we talk to you now about the 6,000,000, we have competency in that. I'm hoping and hopefully through negotiation, it doesn't turn out like that. But we know that at the moment pricing in that Ethernet space is tough. And we've got examples of that from renegotiations that we've done as we mentioned in the first half.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So I have confidence in that number when we put it forward. And clearly with restructuring cost, very tough thing to do, but we have the mass on that and clearly it's quite a precise number on that side of things. So, I do have confidence.

[Ian Robertson, Generalist - Information Technology at Progressive Equity Research Limited]

Ian Robertson from Progressive. A couple of questions. First of all, on Placetel licenses. You referred to the fact you could apply them internationally. Looking forward three, four, five years, what sort of percentage of the initial acquisition number do you think may actually be non German in application?

[Ian Robertson, Generalist - Information Technology at Progressive Equity Research Limited]

And looking within Germany, you have got the SIP hybrid PBX model. Is that working in a way you understand from The U. K. Model? Or is it slightly different?

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Yes. No, both really good questions. So I think on the Cisco question, as we sit here today, around 90 of those licenses are being utilized in Germany. But The U. K.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Percentage increasing on a near daily basis. My gut feel and it's only a gut feel and who knows is by the time of us getting to the end of that sort of four, five year commitment, it's going to be less than half of them being used in Germany. And this goes back to we've already got one Spanish channel partner that's taken a sort of five year commitment to use some of them. 40,000. Yes, which is helpful.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So yes, it's got a feel. Ask us in five years. We'll put the answer in an envelope and then just see who's closest in five years. But I do see those solutions certainly gaining traction in The U. K.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Because they are we're seeing that. And it's those larger the top end of SME customers who still got SiP going into in some cases it is actually a Cisco PBX or maybe a Mitel PBX or whatever. Cisco's collab software is pretty much aimed at those kind of guys. So as they begin to do that migration, think we'll see more uptake in The U. K.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

As I say, we've got a couple of brand new partners who've just walked through the door in Spain just on the back of that relationship. So that's yes. I think on the SIP on the PBX cloud hybrid, it's a bit of a novelty for us because it's not a motion we had in the if you go back to Gamma's roots, we never sold hardware in The U. K. So we just kind of bounded into customers saying, do you want hardware or do you want cloud or you don't want cloud, you're not quite ready yet, okay, we'll come back and see you in eighteen months' time.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And what Starface is able to do, which is why they're growing so strongly in the German market is go, okay, you're sure about cloud, have a bit of hardware and we can flick that to the cloud. And as I probably said to you in the interest of full disclosure, the theory of that is brilliant and it works. In practice, what we're seeing is we're not seeing that many people who've originally gone for hardware flipping to the cloud. What we are seeing is that on a day by day basis, the percentage of sales. So I need to be a little bit careful how I phrase this.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

But we've been talking to Starbase for a long, long time because we'd identified it as an acquisition target. And we've seen that proportion of hardware being the majority of what they do, cloud being lower, that's now to the point where cloud is just beginning to overtake hardware. So even though if you bought hardware, you're not necessarily moving to cloud. If you're a new customer walking through the door, you're now more likely to be just taking cloud off the bat than you are to hardware. And what I think will happen yes, because it's a lot of these middle stand businesses as maybe the kind of older patriarchal figure sort of retires and leaves the business to the next generation.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

It seems that the next generation is much more cloud ready and digital savvy and is willing to take cloud on. So it may well be that we then begin to see the boxes kind of moving into the cloud as well. That's a minority at the moment. Sorry, yes. Hello, people online.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Yes. How do people online ask questions? I should have checked that before we stood I've up got them right here. Very good. Okay. Fantastic.

[Executive]

I've got few questions online.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Perfect. Thank you.

[Executive]

Firstly, from Martin O'Sullivan from Shaw Capital. You've highlighted the breadth of Gamma's portfolio and its ability to submit a wide range of business needs. Taking a customer like Morrison's as an example, how does Gamma typically approach land and expand within large accounts? Specifically, what portions of enterprise customers currently consume multiple solutions? How has that deepened over time?

[Executive]

And what impact does multi product adoption have on metrics like ARPU, retention or contract longevity in the context of a land and expand scenario?

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Yes. Okay. That's a very big question, and I'll probably not dignify it with as long an answer as it needs. But I think the reality of this is when you're dealing with these large enterprises, it's around relationships with CIOs and CTOs. Because when you go into an enterprise, a CIO and a CTO, they kind of know what they're doing, right?

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So we're not turning up telling them how they should be running things because they know how they want to be running things. What they want us to do is to listen, help them technically and obviously help them commercially. And we think we're pretty good at doing that. And as we saw on the Morrisons example, if you can do that with one thing then you begin to earn the right to go and have other conversations with other things. I think it's like anything in life.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

If you have a buyer who has a good experience on the first thing they buy from you, they're going to talk to you about other things coming down the track. And that is our experience of our Enterprise business. And as we've sort of said before, some of the things we get involved in with Enterprise, like actually go back six or seven years, the very early days when we were doing things like voice enablement on Teams, it was because customers were asking us for it and we had to work out how we were going to deliver it. And we do get customers who want us to do things because we're easier to work with than some of our competition. Once you have that relationship and particularly once you can turn that into business and you can turn it into multiyear contracts, inevitably it strengthens that relationship, inevitably it strengthens the longevity of that.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And that's what we see on many of our enterprise customers that once you're selling not just one thing, but two things, three things, four things, the relationship deepens and the longevity goes out. In terms of what percentage you're buying multiple things, I mean, it's a difficult one to answer because it sort of depends how you define multiple things. Because I mean, the vast majority of enterprise customers almost by definition are going to be taking a number of those solutions that had on what we call that 3x3 side and bundling those into a managed service. So as far as they're concerned, they might be going, well, I just think I've got one thing because I've got one managed service contract with Ugamma. But actually within that, I've got a bundle and a nexus of things that's actually quite difficult for someone else to replicate.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So it's I would kind of say most of our enterprise customers, if not all of them, are taking more than one of those services when we put that slide up. I don't if there's anything you wanted to add.

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Contracted margin on the initial relationship and then you've talked about Morrison being 20% up that is the model, which is going to provide great service, build the relationship. And then as other contracts come up, then you're in the RFP for those and you've got the relationship. And then the key bit is always be on the end of the phone or video conference. If there's an issue, respond quickly and help even if it's not directly your relationship. They've got it with someone else and that's we've won quite a few contracts there where we've turned up to help solve other people's issues.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And I suppose the other thing I'd say is it actually works across verticals or within verticals maybe rather than across verticals. If you, you know, we've done quite well over the years with the universities because you solve problems for one university and they all go and talk to each other and you can solve problems for some of their friends at other universities. Same with large retailers at the moment. We've worked with Aldi and Liddell for some years. Now we work with Morrisons.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Yes, we've got other people in that that we're working with and bidding for. And I can't remember what we've disclosed and what we haven't. But you get this sort of general idea of once you're within one of those verticals, all of these CIOs and CTOs talk to each other. And that's very powerful as well. So it's not just retaining that one customer, it also enables you actually to go and work with some of the peers of that customer.

[Executive]

We've got another question from Martin. How is Gamma thinking about AI as a monetizable product line versus a standard feature to maintain competitiveness? Will the AI receptionist and other tools be built separately, bundled in higher tier plans or offered as a free feature? And is the AI being built internally, white labeled from a partner or developed through the Starface acquisition?

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

No. So we believe in some so if you think about AI, which is sort of, you know, why why sometimes I I struggle with it, it covers just a multitude of different things and gets involved in a multitude of different areas. So if you look at something like, the the Cisco collaboration tool set, they have some really, really nice AI that sits at the core of that, that just gives you a much better voice experience. It gives you a much better video experience. And that is just the package.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

And if you have a video call on Cisco versus some of the other products, I think you will find it's better because the way they do the codec and the sorry, the way they do the IP pushing over the web and the way they do the AI is just better. That's included in the price. So in some instances, yes, it's bundled in. In other instances, things like AI receptionist, we think that is a chargeable. If you are a small business and we can sell you a tool that fundamentally means you need to employ fewer people to be answering phones, we feel that is saving you money.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We are adding value to you and we should be deriving some of that value. So that should be chargeable. Like all of these things, this market has a long, long, long way to go and we'll be sitting here in three years' time and we can kind of debate how it's all gone. But I think it's going to be a mixture of both of those things. I think there's definitely going to be some AI that's just in the bundle because it's very, very difficult to extract.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I think where you have a slither of something that is very clearly an AI slither that you can kind of have or not have, I think that probably is well,

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

it definitely is chargeable and we'll see how that market evolves. And I think internally to work alongside because in our own company, we have service and operational parts, which I think can be enhanced by AI as well through operational efficiency.

[Executive]

Our next couple of questions are from Karl Murdoch Smith from Citi. You've mentioned a short term headwind driven by strong competition in Ethernet pricing from the number of alternative networks now providing fiber. Why is this only a short term headwind, not longer term in nature? And how much has this dynamic changed over the last year?

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

It's a really good question. Why do we so how much has it changed? It's changed in the last twelve, eighteen months. So where we're going and rebidding Ethernet or bidding Ethernet for the first time, we're seeing Ethernet unit pricing going down. Why do we feel it's short term?

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Because there is if you are building a network and you are a fiber provider, at some point you have to start making money. And we can have a much longer conversation about altnets and so on and so forth. This probably isn't the time or the place or the forum. But alt nets do need to start making money at some point. And that's why we're sort of reasonably confident. I think the other thing, as

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I said in SME, we've got a certain amount of volume that is on the higher margin. ADSL, once that volume moves down, yes, you take the hit, which we talked about. But then your year on year is like for like because you've already taken the hit down in your So that's why that is a move down. And then from that as long as we grow volume, then it gets back to growth.

[Executive]

Next question is, in your release this morning, you mentioned that you are well placed to maximize the M and A opportunity even in challenging macroeconomic times. Do you see increased M and A opportunities given the challenging times? Are there any countries verticals or product sets that are particularly missing from Gamma's current portfolio?

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Yes. It's a really good question. So I mean, we always say we're looking for two things in M and A. It's sort of desperately insightful. One is additional services or solutions that we can sell into the base.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

So when we did things like SatisNet for security, BrightCloud for contact center. And we look for those businesses as and when they become available. We've mentioned AI would be one where if you can find people doing clever things with AI that might be something that you want to acquire or you may just license that in and sell that to the base. So you don't always need to own these things. Geography is also the important one.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

I think what we've learned over the course of the last five, six years is actually doubling down on one geography as we've done with Germany probably gives you a better return than not having scale in other geographies. So for the time being, we're still looking at whether there's anything additional we can do in Germany, both in terms of giving us a bit more market share, but also maybe some other solutions that we can sell. And maybe if you have a look at the slide carefully, you might have some clues as to what that might be. And then we've always talked about other European countries, but I want to get Germany actually working properly integrated before we move on and think about doing something somewhere else.

[Executive]

Our final question from David Holohan of Marlette Financial. On capital allocation, given the significant cash flow the company generates, would it make sense to have a rolling opportunistic buyback authorization in the order of £25,000,000 to capitalize on the significant disconnect with the current share price and not impact your M and A strategy?

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Yes. That's a really good question. And it's one that inevitably we talk about at the Board. I mean, to be really clear, what we've said this morning and I hope we've said it clearly is we do generate a lot of cash and we think we've been pretty disciplined about doing good M and A and returning that to shareholders. So we don't see it as an eitheror.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

What we've done thus far and I suppose to answer your question David is we've said we will open up a buyback for a period of time and then we've closed that buyback. Right now, we're in a slight net debt position and we kind of feel maybe just getting that down a little bit might be the best use of cash for the short term. I think that probably gets reviewed going into next year as to what we want to do in terms of what sort of cash balances we want to take, how much debt we want, where the share price is, what shareholders are asking for, what M and A targets are. But we will kind of keep coming back to this balance of we know we need to do M and A because there's really good opportunities to do accretive M and A in Europe. And we hear shareholders loud and clear that they want cash returned. And we hope we can

[Bill Castell, CFO & Director at Gamma Communications]

get the balance right in doing that. And we have a structured approach with equivalent rate of return looking at share buybacks, looking at return hurdles for M and A, is inherently more risky than organic. So we have hurdles etcetera internally. And clearly, we take the board through that and through their decisions. And that's how we've done the share buybacks in the past. And it's a balanced approach going forward.

[Executive]

There are no further questions online.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

Okay. Do we have any more questions in the room? Well, with that, thank you once again for braving the strike and coming over here. I really appreciate it. Thank you also for dialing in.

[Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director at Gamma Communications]

We'll see many of you I think over the course of the next week as well. So, looking forward to that. As you know, if you do have any other questions, you know where I am, you know where Bill is. But thank you very much indeed. And we'll see you in six months' time if not before. Thank you.

Participants

Executives

• Andrew Belshaw, CEO & Director
• Bill Castell, CFO & Director

Analysts

• Harvey Robinson, Senior Technology Analyst at Panmure Liberum
• James Lockyer, Equity Analyst, Founder & Chair - Innovation Forum at Peel Hunt
• Ian Robertson, Generalist - Information Technology at Progressive Equity Research Limited
• Executive