Assurant Q3 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Assurant reported Q3 2021 net operating income per share excluding reportable catastrophes of $2.70, driving a 12% year-to-date increase to $8.75 and reaffirming full-year guidance of 10–14% growth.
  • Global Lifestyle earnings grew double digits, led by a 20% increase in vehicles protected (now over 52 million) and continued momentum in Connected Living’s mobile business, including strong trade-in volumes and a new in-store repair rollout with T-Mobile.
  • Global Housing achieved an annualized 15% operating ROE for the first nine months, with lender-placed insurance maintaining stable market position and multifamily housing now serving over 2.5 million renters via its Cover 360 solution.
  • Assurant completed its 2019–2021 plan to return $1.35 billion to shareholders and has reinvested proceeds from the sale of Global Preneed to return an additional $900 million, ending Q3 with over $1.3 billion in holding-company liquidity.
  • Founder CEO Alan Kohlberg will retire at year-end, with President Keith Demings set to succeed him in January alongside a refreshed leadership team aimed at accelerating innovation and global growth.
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Earnings Conference Call
Assurant Q3 2021
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There are 13 speakers on the call.

Operator

Welcome to Assurant's Third Quarter 2021 Conference Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen only mode and the floor will be open for questions following management's prepared remarks. We ask that you please pick up your handset to allow optimal sound quality. Lastly, It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Suzanne Shepherd, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Sustainability. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We look forward to discussing our Q3 2021 results with you today. Joining me for Assurant's conference call are Alan Kohlberg, our Chief Executive Officer Keith Demings, our President and Richard Dziagio, our The release and corresponding financial supplement are available on assurance.com. We'll start today's call with remarks from Alan, Keith and Richard before moving into a Q and A session. Some of these statements made today are forward looking.

Speaker 1

Forward looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated by these statements. Additional information regarding these factors can be found in yesterday's earnings release as well as in our SEC report. During today's call, we will refer to non GAAP financial measures, which we believe are important in evaluating the company's performance. For more detail on these measures, the most comparable GAAP measures and a reconciliation of the 2, please refer to yesterday's news release and financial supplement. I will now turn the call over to Alan.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Suzanne. Good morning, everyone. Our Q3 results were strong, driven by double digit operating earnings growth in Global Lifestyle. The strength of our global automotive and connected living Springs continue to validate our long term strategy of focusing on our higher growth, fee based and capital light businesses. We continue to make progress in building a more sustainable company for all stakeholders.

Speaker 2

During the quarter, a few key highlights included for companies ranking Assurant among the top 50% of all 75,000 participating companies. In addition, this quarter we provided additional transparency to track our progress on our journey to build a more diverse and inclusive Assurant. With the recent disclosure of our EE-one report, which provides gender, race and ethnicity data by job category for our U. S.-based employees. We believe a diverse and inclusive workforce will best foster innovation, a key ingredient to sustaining our outperformance longer term.

Speaker 2

Looking at our financial performance year to date, net operating income per share excluding reportable catastrophes was $8.75 up 12% compared to the 1st 9 months of last year. Net operating income and adjusted EBITDA, Also excluding cats, both increased by 10% to $528,000,000 $862,000,000 respectively. These results support our full year outlook of 10% to 14% growth in net operating income per share, excluding the reportable catastrophes, marking our 5th consecutive year of strong profitable growth. Given year to date results and our expectations for the Q4, We would expect to end the year closer to the top half of this range. We've also now completed our 3 year 1.35 Following the close on the sale of Global Preneed in August, we've also made meaningful progress in returning an additional $900,000,000 to shareholders.

Speaker 2

Our 2021 EPS outlook is driven by at least high single digit net operating income growth excluding cats as well as share repurchases. Turning to our business performance. In Global Lifestyle, we are on track to grow adjusted EBITDA by double from $637,000,000 in 2020, driven by Global Automotive and Connected Living. We have benefited from the stable recurring revenue stream of our installed base of mobile subscribers and our success in launching additional offerings and capabilities for our mobile Carrier, cable operator, OEM and retail clients globally. Additionally, our mobile trade in and upgrade business And expanded service delivery options are increasingly important to our profitability and also in providing a differentiated and superior Within Global Automotive, we benefited from increased scale, growing the number of vehicles we protect by 20% over 52,000,000 Since the Warranty Group acquisition in 2018, we believe auto will continue to be one of our key growth businesses in the future.

Speaker 2

In Global Housing, we continue to be on track for another year of better than market returns with an annualized operating ROE of nearly 15% for the 1st 9 months of this year. This includes $113,000,000 of catastrophe losses, which further demonstrates the returns of this differentiated business. Our countercyclical lender placed insurance business remains an integral part of the mortgage industry framework in the U. S. Within lender placed as we renew existing clients and add new partners, we will continue to enhance the experience through the ongoing rollout of our single source processing Our multifamily housing business now supports over 2,500,000 renters across the U.

Speaker 2

S. And has more than doubled earnings since 2015 Such as our Cover 360 property management solution continues to drive more value for our partners and an enhanced customer experience. Overall, we believe our portfolio of high growth fee based capital light offerings and high return specialty P and C businesses sets us apart as a long term outperformer and sustained value creator for our shareholders. With my retirement at year end, I wanted to take this opportunity to thank all of our stakeholders that have supported Assurant's strategic vision and path over the last 7 years. Most of all, I'm humbled by our 15,000 employees who through their dedication to serve our clients and our 300,000,000 customers worldwide have successfully transformed Assurant.

Speaker 2

Together, we have significantly strengthened our Fortune 300 company that should continue to deliver With our President, Keith Demings succeeding me as CEO in January, I'm confident Assurant will accelerate our strategy and continue to differentiate our superior customer experience while further deepening client relationships. I'll now turn the call over to Keith to review our key business highlights in greater detail for the quarter. Keith?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Alan, and good morning, everyone. On behalf of our employees, I wanted to express our sincere thanks to Alan I've been fortunate to have had a front row seat and a role in supporting Alan's vision and the transformation of Assurant. Importantly, he has continued to evolve the purpose of our company to drive value for all stakeholders, customers, employees, communities The impact he's had on our people and the overall culture of our company has been exemplary, and I appreciate Alan's personal mentorship and partnership and wish him the very best in his retirement. As we build on Assurant's momentum over the long term, I believe our talent and innovation will be critical factors to achieving success and growth, especially as we focus more on Convergence around the connected consumer. From a talent perspective, Asurion has developed a deep and diverse bench of internal leaders.

Speaker 3

A few weeks ago, I announced our refreshed management committee effective in January, including 2 new leadership appointments illustrating our strong bench. First, Keith Meyer, our current President of International will succeed Gene Mergelmeyer as Chief Operating Officer as Gene will be retiring at year end. Gene's significant contributions to Assurant over the last 30 plus years, including as COO over his last 5 years have been instrumental in creating market leading positions, producing profitable growth and transforming the organization. In succeeding Gene, Keith Meyer brings nearly 25 years of experience at Assurant to the COO role. Since 2016, as President of Assurant International, he has driven growth across our global markets, most recently with strong success in Asia Pacific.

Speaker 3

In this new role, Keith will be focused on advancing Assurant's business strategy and market leadership positions as well as identifying additional opportunities to deliver a superior customer experience. 2nd, Martin Jens will become President of Global Automotive. With over 30 years of experience, he currently leads the transformation and growth strategy For auto, it has been instrumental in our introduction of innovative new products like EV1, our electric vehicle warranty protection. In addition to emerging opportunities and innovation, Martin will be focused on driving growth and improving the customer experience, including working with our partners to deliver best in class dealer training. These two new appointments, Along with recent appointments of Bijou Nair as President of Connected Living and Manny Becerra as our Chief Innovation Officer, As well as the other management committee members represent a strong team to help lead us into the future.

Speaker 3

In addition to talent, innovation is an important strength of the organization, not only the development of new digital products and offerings for our clients, but also through new paths to grow and scale Assurance businesses. Within Connected Living, innovation was a significant theme this quarter through ongoing enhancements of our mobile service delivery options. As part of the recently finalized multiyear contract extension with T Mobile, We're expanding the services Assurant provides to continuously improve the customer experience for millions of T Mobile customers. As of November 1, Assurant is partnering with T Mobile to begin the nationwide rollout of in store device repair services to approximately 500 stores provided by Assurant's industry certified repair experts. In addition, We have also transitioned all of the legacy Sprint protection subscribers to the new T Mobile device protection offering.

Speaker 3

As a result, this significantly adds to our mobile device count. Overall, the Expansion of our service delivery options is critical to sustainably. We also recently signed on device diagnostic tool. With the renewal, we will also be expanding the offering to include Pocket Geek Privacy, which enables consumers to better protect and manage their personal information online through various features. This is another example of how we're able to grow by adding services and capabilities to existing clients.

Speaker 3

In addition, the mobile business continues to see strong attachment rates given the increased reliance on mobile devices as well as rising device prices. Our fee driven trade in and upgrade business, including the previous acquisitions of Hyla and Alegre have performed extraordinarily well already this year as we enter the early innings of the 5 gs upgrade cycle. In fact, almost a year after the transaction of Hyland closed, I am happy to report the acquisition has performed better than expected. Ahead of the low teens forward EBITDA, the acquisition was valued on. With the growing availability and popularity Of 5 gs enabled smartphones, we expect to see our 30 plus trade in and upgrade programs continue to grow.

Speaker 3

Our progress is demonstrated through our ability to manage large scale programs with superior technology. This is further supported by increasing our attach rates for trade in programs as our clients' promotional efforts encourage consumers to upgrade. Overall, we have processed nearly 18,000,000 devices so far this year, reducing e waste and increasing digital Through the scale and capabilities of our trade in and upgrade program, We have signed a multiyear contract extension with AT and T to manage their device trade in program. This includes providing analytics as well as device collection and processing for all of their sales channels, including retail, B2B, dealer and direct to consumer. AT and T was a key client In Global Automotive, policies increased by $4,000,000 or 8% year So far this year, The business has also benefited from strong used car growth, which tends to earn faster than new car sales.

Speaker 3

This, along with the fact that earnings from the business are recognized over a multi We continued the global rollout of EV1, And electric vehicle and hybrid protection product of North America. Our EV1 product Our multifamily housing business grew policies by 7% year over year From growth in our affinity partners as well as our PMC relationships where we continue the rollout of our innovative Cover 360 product. In addition, we have seen other digital investments create opportunities for future growth. Here. In summary, our ability to strengthen Assurant's talent and innovation supported by critical investments has and should continue to drive momentum for the future.

Speaker 3

I will now turn the call over to Richard to review the 3rd quarter results our 2021 outlook. Richard?

Speaker 4

Thank you, Keith, and good morning, everyone. As Alan noted, We are pleased with our Q3 performance as our results reflect strong growth across Global Lifestyle and solid earnings in Global Housing. For the quarter, we reported net operating income per share, excluding reportable catastrophes of 2.7 prior year period. Excluding cats, net operating income and adjusted EBITDA for the quarter, each increased 4% to $162,000,000 $262,000,000 respectively. Now let's move to segment results starting with Global Lifestyle.

Speaker 4

Operating income of 100 and Growth was driven by Global Automotive and continued earnings expansion within Connected Living's mobile business. In Global Automotive, earnings increased $8,000,000 or 21% from continued global growth In our U. S. National dealer and third party administrator channels, including contributions from our AFAS and International OEM Channels. Better loss experience in select ancillary products And higher investment income also supported earnings growth in the quarter.

Speaker 4

Connected Living earnings Increased by $6,000,000 or 9% year over year. The increase was primarily driven by continued mobile subscriber growth This quarter, Global Automotive and Connected Living results also included a modest One time tax benefit that improved earnings. For the quarter, Lifestyle's adjusted EBITDA increased 17% to $177,000,000 This reflects the segment's increased amortization resulting from higher deal related intangibles For more recent transactions in mobile and global automotive, IT depreciation expense also increased stemming from higher investments. As we look at revenues, lifestyle revenues increased by $158,000,000 or 9%. This was driven mainly by continued growth in Connected Living and Global Automotive.

Speaker 4

Within Connected Living, revenue increased 10%, Boosted by mobile fee income that was driven by strong trade in volumes, including contributions from Hyla. Trade in volumes were supported by new phone introductions and carrier promotions from the introduction of new 5 gs devices, Higher revenue from growth in domestic mobile subscribers was offset by declines in Runoff mobile programs. Mobile subscribers were up slightly year over year and flat year to date as mid single digit subscriber growth in North America This was offset by declines in other geographies, mostly due to 3 factors. 1st, The 750,000 subscribers related to a runoff European Banking program previously mentioned, which is not expected to be a significant impact in our profitability. 2nd, subscriber growth for existing programs moderating in Asia Pacific and third, A slower than expected recovery from the pandemic in Latin America.

Speaker 4

In Global Automotive, revenue increased 8%, reflecting strong prior period sales of vehicle service contracts. Industry auto sales remained elevated in the 3rd quarter And we benefited from this trend as reflected in the year over year growth of our net written premium by 12%. We have though seen this trend begin to normalize beginning into the Q4. For the full year, lifestyle revenues are expected to increase modestly compared to last year's $7,300,000,000 mainly driven by global auto and Connected Living Growth. For all of 2021, we still expect Global Lifestyle's net operating income to grow in the high single digits compared to 2020.

Speaker 4

Adjusted EBITDA for this segment is expected to grow double digits year over year, which continues to grow at a faster pace than segment net operating income. As previously reported, we began our investment in the Tmall in store repair capability this quarter. However, due to the timing of the rollout, most of our associated start up costs will occur in the 4th quarter. These costs primarily relate to technician hiring and parts sourcing. We do expect these cost to meaningfully impact Connected Living's profitability as we end the year.

Speaker 4

In addition, we expect our effective tax rate to return to a more normal level, Approximately 23%. Looking ahead to 2022, we expect earnings expansion for in store service and repair. Moving to Global Housing, net operating income excluding catastrophe losses was $81,000,000 for the Q3. Including the $78,000,000 of pre announced catastrophe losses, mainly from Hurricane Ida, Net operating income totaled $3,000,000 Excluding catastrophe losses, earnings decreased $19,000,000 due to anticipated higher non cat losses, which returned to levels more in line with historical averages. As a reminder, Favorable non cat losses in 2020 were not representative of historical trends and Q3 2020 marked the lowest point of last year, mainly driven by loss experience within blender placed and specialty products.

Speaker 4

The year over year earnings decline was nearly all driven by unfavorable non cat loss experience from several factors. Largest driver, which contributed close to half of the increase was from the expected normalization of the non cat loss ratio. The balance of the decline was split relatively evenly between increased reserves related to our specialty P and C offerings, primarily in our on demand sharing economy business as well as higher claims severity. Well, there is always a lag. If this trend continues, we would expect higher loss costs to be offset by increased rates over In Multifamily Housing, underlying growth was offset by increased investments to further strengthen our customer experience, including our digital first capability.

Speaker 4

Global Housing revenue decreased slightly year over year from lower specialty P and C revenues as well as a cat reinstatement premium resulting from Hurricane Ida and lower REO volumes in lender plates. This was partially offset by higher average insured values and premium rates in lender plates and growth in multifamily housing. We continue to expect Global Housing's net operating income, excluding cats, to be flat for the full year compared to 2020. For the Q4 and into 2022, we would expect non GAAP losses to continue to be above 2020, But in line with year to date 2021 experience, which is consistent with long term trends. We also continue to monitor the REO foreclosure moratoriums and any additional extensions that may be announced.

Speaker 4

At corporate, the net operating loss was $21,000,000 an improvement of $4,000,000 compared to the Q3 of 2020. This was driven by 2 items. 1st, lower employee related expenses and 3rd party fees and second, expense savings associated with reducing our real estate footprint. In the Q4, we do anticipate a higher loss due to the timing of spend. For the full year 2021, we now expect The corporate net operating loss to be approximately $80,000,000 driven by favorable year to date results, mainly from the one time tax Real Estate joint venture benefit in the 2nd quarter.

Speaker 4

This compares to our previous estimate of $85,000,000 As we look forward to 2022, we would expect our net operating loss in corporate to be closer to $90,000,000 more in line with historical trends. Turning to the holding company liquidity, including the net proceeds from the sale of preneed in August, We ended the Q3 with over $1,300,000,000 well above our current minimum target level. In the 3rd quarter, dividends from Operating segments totaled $127,000,000 In addition to our quarterly corporate and interest expenses, We also had outflows from 3 main items, dollars 323,000,000 of share repurchases, dollars 39,000,000 in common stock dividends and $11,000,000 mainly related to Assurant Ventures Investments. In addition to completing our 2019 Investor Day objective Of returning $1,350,000,000 to shareholders from 2019 through 2021, We have also completed roughly 1 quarter of our objective to return $900,000,000 in global preneed sale proceeds through share repurchases. For the year overall, we continue to expect dividends to approximate segment earnings, Subject to the growth of the businesses, rating agency and regulatory capital requirements and Investment Portfolio Performance.

Speaker 4

I also want to provide a quick update on Assurant Ventures, Our venture capital arm. In the Q3, 3 investments in our portfolio went public via SPACs. We are pleased with the results as the 3 investments exceeded a 7x multiple on investment capital under their respective SPAC Transaction terms. These transactions combined with strong performance in the broader ventures portfolio led to a $75,000,000 After tax gain flowing through net income in the quarter. In addition to strong returns, These investments also provide key insights into emerging technologies and capabilities within our connected consumer growth businesses.

Speaker 4

Before turning to Q and A, I too would like to take a minute to thank Alan for his partnership over the last 5 years. In addition to positioning Assurant for long term success and growth, he's created an environment of inclusion and community truly representative of our core values, Common sense and common decency. Alan, I wish you all the very best in retirement. Well deserved. And with that, operator, please open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. Thank you. Our first question is coming from Pammi McJoynt with KBW.

Speaker 2

Hey, good morning.

Speaker 5

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question. So the transfer of Sprint Subscribers that you mentioned increased your covered devices by about 20%. Could you talk about the revenue potential Per device and then just kind of the bottom line profitability for those new devices relative to your 53,000,000 in force devices at quarter end?

Speaker 3

Sure. Maybe I'll take that and back up for just a second. So, the first thing I'd emphasize is just the strong partnership that we've had with T Mobile for many years, which has obviously scaled significantly over time. So we're extremely pleased to have reached Multi year extension and then the migration of the Sprint customers on November 1, along with the ramping of Same unit repair inside of 500 T Mobile stores is obviously very exciting as we look to the future. As we've discussed on previous calls, it's not uncommon for us to forego economics when we re contract with major clients.

Speaker 3

That's particularly true if a client scales dramatically over time, which obviously is the case with T Mobile. As a result of the new agreement going Forward, we do expect lower per unit economics, but I would say that once we get same unit repair fully ramped And normalize our performance, which will take some time, we do expect overall to be able to more than offset the margin pressure With the additional Sprint volume, with economies of scale within the business and obviously with the addition of the additional in store repair services And we're really well positioned as partners as we look to continue to drive customer experiences and innovation for the future. So overall, a really strategically important Accomplishment for us, not just the renewal, but launching same unit repair, I think, is critical as we look to accelerate our competitive advantage in the Connected Living business and this positions us really well.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks. And then switching gears a little bit. With With the 2019 to 2021 capital plan, you laid out the general target for capital allocation of 25% reinvestment, 25% dividends and 50% Share repurchases, has anything fundamentally changed that should lead us to expect anything different kind of going forward, perhaps getting a sneak peek of the 3 years.

Speaker 3

No, it's a great question and we're obviously planning an Investor Day in March of next year. So we'll talk more about our long term vision for the company and our capital management philosophy at that point in more detail. But I would emphasize, our goal as it has been is to deliver long term profitable growth to increase our market leading positions And really focus on long term value creation for our investors and we intend to maintain a disciplined capital management philosophy, But also looking to invest in growth organically and certainly some inorganic as well, but we'll come back in Investor Day share a broader vision around the future.

Speaker 2

Yes, and this is Alan. The one thing I would add to Keith's comments, if you think about our company, we've always had A great business that generates earnings at the business level that we can then upstream to the holding company. And going back since our IPO, we've been very On stewards of company's capital over the last 20 years, I think that's going to continue fully under Keith's leadership as we go forward. I don't See any major changes in the ability to generate cash and then to manage it appropriately for shareholders?

Speaker 3

Yes. And we do remain committed to returning the balance of the $900,000,000 from preneed that we've talked about previously. So we intend for that to continue as planned and get that done within 12 months of the close of the

Operator

Our next question is coming from Gary Ransom with Dowling and Partners. Good morning.

Speaker 6

Yes. Good morning. I also had a question on the covered devices. I mean, we've had a period of a couple of years where it's been flattish In Covered Devices and you explained that under your prepared remarks. Now we've got essentially in 1 month this 20 Jump or so.

Speaker 6

And I'm just trying to think through how that might roll forward if we're Are we getting an unusual share of it in this first step of the rollout or I don't know, can you give us any color of how that might Going over the next the rest of this year and into next year?

Speaker 3

Yes. So we migrated all of the Sprint customers effective November 1. So all of that volume is now enrolled in Assurant's program Going forward, obviously, we'll continue to see growth through the overall partnership as T Mobile continues to win new customers in the market And continues to add insurance to those customers' accounts. So this does create a really interesting long term opportunity for growth. And as we've demonstrated over many years, we continue to innovate not just around the products, but services capabilities, How can we invest more around delivering exceptional customer experience and certainly a partnership with T Mobile that is now significantly more scaled, We believe it's going to yield more opportunities to partner together for the future.

Speaker 3

But as we've talked about, there's a trade in terms of economics between what's our Per unit fee that we're going to get relative to a much larger base of customers.

Speaker 6

Right, okay. And is there any remaining Drag from the other things you mentioned internationally where things were running off or not growing as much?

Speaker 3

No, I think we've seen a little bit of a slowdown in growth if we're talking specifically about mobile just As we've come out of COVID in a couple of regions, primarily Latin America, a little bit in Europe as things have opened back up, but overall, Really, really strong performance in the U. S. Market, in the Japanese market and really do see good long term growth for that business overall in international as we continue to scale over time.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you. And then The other count statistic you give is the autos covered in the Global Automotive and that was growing very well as And again, trying to think through how that might continue forward. Is there anything that has momentum there that we might

Speaker 3

Yes, I would say the overall industry sales On the auto side, it remained quite elevated. As you saw, our covered policies increased a lot, dollars 4,000,000 8% from last year. But I would also highlight sales production was well above pre pandemic levels. So we're seeing really, really strong performance. We achieved Almost $1,200,000,000 of net written premium when you look at the quarterly results.

Speaker 3

I would say that began to normalize a little bit from where we were In the first and second quarter, but it was only modestly down from Q2, up 12% over 2020 And actually up 27% over 2019. So that would certainly expect to taper off going forward. There's obviously constraints around Supply chain that's affecting new car sales, but those constraints have been more than offset by the volume that our clients are doing on the used side of the business, Which has been very dramatic and overall leading to elevated levels of sales.

Speaker 6

Thank you. If I could squeeze in a couple of numbers questions, there were a couple of items that were mentioned that you didn't really quantify was the tax benefit That helped the numbers in Global Lifestyle and you also mentioned in housing the reinstatement premium. Are those can you Help quantify those at all.

Speaker 4

Yes. Good morning, Garrett. It's Richard. Yes, I mean, in terms of the tax benefit, It was about $4,000,000 And then the reinsurance, the reinstatement premium, I think that was about $7,000,000 Okay. Exactly.

Speaker 6

And just to be clear, the $99,000,000 of pretax cats Does that include that reinstatement premium, correct?

Speaker 4

In terms of the reinstatement premium, no, it actually does. And you look at the numbers, we have a retention of $80,000,000 and the total cat impact for us In the quarter, it was $87,000,000 So that comes through on that for Aida.

Speaker 6

I got it. Okay. Thank

Operator

you. Our next question is from Tom Shimp from Piper Sandler.

Speaker 2

Hey, good morning, Tom.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning, guys. So I'm thinking about the rollout of your EV1 product, just the corresponding transition to the electric vehicle. How do the attachment rates compare For this product compared to the internal combustion engine, there's a lot of there's a good amount of tact in those EV cars, but they do have less moving parts. How do those dynamics affect the attachment rates that you're seeing?

Speaker 3

It's a great question. I would say it's really early in terms of Scaling around electric vehicles in terms of the service contract programs, you're correct, there are less moving parts. There's a lot of technology. Some of the parts tend to be very expensive to get repaired. So we may see lower frequency.

Speaker 3

We may see higher severities. There's also a little less certainty in the minds of consumers around the reliability of all of the technology. We do expect to see strong performance over time. I would say it's really early and it will evolve as we start to see More and more EVs in the market and as we start to see our clients maturing around not just selling electric vehicles, But attaching F and I products and services. So this will evolve, I think, over the next few years quite dramatically.

Speaker 7

Okay. So inflation, it's top of mind for insurance investors right now. Assurant operates in businesses that have Attracted more attention in regard to inflation, parts and labor costs in automotive, chip shortages in mobile, in global housing. Housing is a risk based business where you have inflation exposure that you can mitigate with rate. But I think a lot of investors who look at Assurant are your typical insurance investor and sometimes Misunderstand to the extent of which the risk in mobile and automotive is ceded off to clients and how it operates on a fee like basis.

Speaker 7

I think investors understand this dynamic exists, but not the degree of which. So maybe you could give us your thoughts there and how Assurance is positioned And it's an increasingly inflationary environment.

Speaker 3

Yes. And maybe I'll offer a couple of comments and then I'll ask Richard because his team has done a lot of work on this Question, but I think you're right. I mean, we think our risk is quite well insulated and mitigated based on the deal structures that we have on the lifestyle side. Most of the deals are reinsured or profit shared. Not all of the deals, but we've been pretty insulated in terms of seeing volatility there.

Speaker 3

And then obviously, as we look at housing, as you talked about, there are opportunities with rate increases and Increasing insured values and then investment income will obviously be a big driver as we go forward. Richard's done a full analysis to kind of look at The net overall, so maybe talk about that Richard?

Speaker 4

Sure. Thanks, Keith. And I think You sort of both hit on the main points. When we look at it, I would say short term in this quarter, we mentioned that severities were up a little bit, Probably a quarter of the whole change in the non cat loss ratio, those severities are really labor and claims Costs increasing there. But over the long term, I think we're we look at it maybe being slightly positive, At least neutral, because what happens, I mean, Keith mentioned the reinsurance that we have with our clients on the fee based side.

Speaker 4

So there's a large sharing on that side of the business. But then on the P and C side where housing whatever where we are Taking on the claims and the risk, there's 2 things that would happen. Lender placed, we have average insured values would go up. So As the prices of housing goes up, go up with inflation, we would see an increase in our in the premiums through the average insured value. Also over time, we would be able to recover a large part, if not all of that through our rate filings.

Speaker 4

So we feel that obviously insulates us quite well. And then finally, with inflation, over time, we would anticipate that interest rates would increase and we would get an uptick in our investment income. So overall, we're not looking at it as being any type of significant negative. Anything that's neutral could be a small positive.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thank you for your answers.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Brian Meredith with UBS.

Speaker 2

Hey, good morning, Brian.

Speaker 8

Good morning, good morning, good morning. So just curious, in Global Housing, I know early on we were Maybe we'd see an increase in placement rates towards the end of this year. Obviously, forbearance kind of heard that now that that's gone. What is your kind of views with respect to placement rates there? Are we ever going to see a pickup?

Speaker 9

Yes, I

Speaker 3

think We signaled a modest change in placement rate this quarter, mainly driven by the mix. So I'd say it's broadly flat. I would expect as we look to maybe the back half of twenty twenty two, we'd start to see an increase modestly in the placement rates over time. I expect servicers to actively work with borrowers on loan modifications to keep the loans performing. There's so much strength generally in the housing market.

Speaker 3

Customers have positive equity in the home. So I think a lot of that activity will delay Some of the placement rate from flowing through and certainly same thing is true on the foreclosure side as well that will affect the REO business. So Probably second half of twenty twenty two would be our best estimate on when we might start to see that coming through the portfolio.

Speaker 8

Great. And then second question, just curious, the reserve increases that you happened in the quarter, what was that related to in the Specialty P and

Speaker 2

Yes, this is Alan. Maybe, let me take that one and give a little bit of history on what we're doing there. So in Specialty, we have a variety of products, Things like antique auto, a little bit of the international property we write. And we also a few years ago started to do a Couple of on demand products related to really following the consumer as they own and rent their home and their car And trying to really build off of our experience around rental and the franchise that we have there. And what we're really doing today is we're ensuring a Short term transactions.

Speaker 2

So think about you're renting your home or you're using your car to make a food delivery. And what we're excited about With that business and I'll answer the question directly, both it's a new distribution channel for us. If you think about we can Some of our capabilities around rental into a rental of a home. And then what's particularly interesting is the gig economy. And if you think about the workers who are now delivering Food or using their car to provide services, it's an interesting opportunity for us to drive not that product as much as our other products, Our service contracts, our mobile capabilities, our renters insurance, so that's really been the genesis of what we're doing there.

Speaker 2

In terms of the reserve this quarter, It's affecting really maybe about $5,000,000 I think was the amount and it's really development on prior reported claims. Think of it as the catch up to align with all of our future expectations. And then over the last couple of years as we've gained experience in this business, we've been modifying our Product structures, we've increased rates and we've put in place extensive reinsurance. So we'll never we don't anticipate having any significant or material Losses from this business. In fact, it's been a very well performing business for us over the last couple of years.

Speaker 8

Got you. And I assume you've got a lot of reinsurance on it and protections on

Speaker 2

We do. We do. We've got very strong structures there. And it's really for us, we're trying to do the same thing we do in auto and mobile generally, which is make it into And Fee business as we manage around a consumer transaction.

Speaker 8

Great. And then my last Just curious, so I take a look at the Global Lifestyles, there's a lot of moving parts happening here. I guess going into Q4 when I think about kind of the pre tax margin on that Obviously, the additional subs coming in at a lower kind of revenue per sub and then you've got the investment Should we think about kind of margins in that business declining here as we look into Q4 and in 2022?

Speaker 3

I think as we look at overall profits in lifestyle and in Connected Living, we do expect to see growth In Q4 over Q4 last year and continue to see growth into 2021, we had a as you saw a strong Q3 for Connected Living, Up significantly over last year. So I think that continues in Q4 even with the additional investments that we need to make to really not just stand up Same unit repair, but make sure that we're executing and delivering to a really high standard. And then as we think about 2022, yes, we expect overall, We'll see some moderation, but we still expect to see strong growth across both the lifestyle and housing businesses.

Speaker 8

So good solid operating income growth still. It's just maybe some pressure on margins, but it's top line growth to more than offset that. So I think I hear you saying, right?

Speaker 3

Correct. Yes. Yes, the per unit economics are going to Look a little lighter, but the overall economics are going to be strong. Terrific. Thanks so

Speaker 8

much for the answers. All the best in your retirement, Al.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Michael Phillips from Morgan

Speaker 2

Hey, good morning, Mike.

Speaker 10

Hey, good morning, everybody. Thanks. Good morning. I guess, Richard, when you talked about the impact in the 4th quarter from The rollout expenses from T Mobile. I guess, A, can any way you can help us quantify that meaningful impact?

Speaker 10

And then, B, is it just a 4Q will any of that extend into 1Q next year?

Speaker 4

Yes. Thanks for the question, Mike. In terms of quantifying it, I guess I would say we've given sort of aggregate an aggregate indication in terms of where we think lifestyle is going to come in Full year, and we talk about being a high single digit. So if you really look at last year where we came in and look at high single digits, it will give you A pretty good view of where we think Lifestyle is going to come in for the full year. And part of that decrease is going to is based on The increase in setting up the service and repair and investments that we're making in Connected Living broadly, So that will be in the Q4 and then we would anticipate some coming in next year.

Speaker 4

So I mean, in terms of rolling into next year, there'll be some amount, a big amount the biggest amount I would say would be in Q4 of this year, we are thinking a few million and it'll ramp up quite a bit into the Q4. We are talking in terms of 1,000,000 here in terms of doing it.

Speaker 3

Yes. And I would just add, in addition to the startup costs Really ramping, doing all the recruiting, the training, the hiring and getting all the build outs done. There's also just the ongoing evolution of The service that we're going to deliver, which inevitably will change and evolve over time as we continue to work with T Mobile to optimize that experience. So I do expect some investments in 2022, partly supporting the rollout to completion, but also Ramping execution and investing in our technology to make sure that we're delivering services seamlessly as possible. So you definitely would expect to see some Investments as we continue to shape this part of our business going forward.

Speaker 10

Okay. Yes, that makes sense guys. 2 more kind of quick ones I guess then. On the labor and material costs and the severity there, You talked about that quite a bit. I guess a follow-up, Richard, you said, if things continue, I think you said if things continue, obviously, that could be offset in the future by higher Does that mean you're currently pricing in for that or still kind of waiting to see how that plays out?

Speaker 4

Yes. Some of it's currently coming through. Every year in our contracts, we get an increase, what we what I refer As average insured value, so that's embedded in the contracts. We look at inflation and we do get some increase in the overall premiums from that. When I was talking about the trends over time in the rate filing, one, we can't put in a rate filing for 1 quarter.

Speaker 4

When we file rates, It's based on averages over a couple of years. So that's really for inflation to come in and be lasting and have an impact On the non cat loss ratio, it would need to come would need to happen over time is what I was referring to there, Mike. And then we would put it in and then we get it. So there's a lag, but it would be offset over time is what I was saying.

Speaker 10

Sure. Okay. That makes sense. And I guess last quick one. Any impact in the quarter on your mobile sub numbers from The T Mobile Cyber Attack Economist?

Speaker 3

No. I would say nothing Meaningful that we're aware of or that we saw. I mean, we have a really strong base of customers and I don't think we saw anything of note That I'm aware of.

Speaker 8

Okay. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Mark Hughes with Truist Securities.

Speaker 2

Hey, good morning, Mark.

Speaker 11

Yes. Thank you. Good morning and congratulations, Alan.

Speaker 10

Thank you. The

Speaker 11

Refresh me on the revenue model for the in store business, the T Mobile, is it Kind of time and materials, is it repair per device, hourly reimbursement, is that work?

Speaker 3

Yes, it's a great question. It's I would think of it as fee income oriented and getting paid for the labor That we perform and then, for the management of the overall program, we don't really have Risk around how the business performed from a parts and labor other than we get stated fees and we've got to manage ourselves within those levels to drive profitability. So I think it's a really, really well structured Financial deal and our interests are very aligned and it's very motivated around delivering an exceptional experience in the store. So I feel really good about not just the deal that we put together, but how we're working together with T Mobile to really change the industry.

Speaker 11

And are they going to be advertising it? How are customers going to know that the repair capability is available?

Speaker 3

Well, We obviously manage the claim process within consumers and now that's with the entire base of T Mobile subscribers. So we'll be Directing customers as appropriate to take advantage of really the best option that's available to them to get repairs done. So I think It will be largely through our claims flow, but also through T Mobile awareness campaigns, etcetera.

Speaker 11

And then, Richard, I think you all have addressed this to a degree, but any more adjectives or maybe even numbers you might When you're talking about 2022 earnings expansion, do you continue though at more moderate levels? I think you Also referred to strong growth in 2022. Anything else you want Add to that.

Speaker 4

Well, I wouldn't want to jump in kind of Investor Day and when we talk about our outlook next year. I guess I would say 2 things. I mean, we're as you've heard during the call, we're really pleased with where we are across our set of businesses, Whether it be the growth that we're seeing in global auto, the extension of the contract with T Mobile, the growth Other elsewhere domestically in the U. S. In mobile, in Japan in mobile and also in the housing business, You see that we do seem to be at a bottom with placement rates.

Speaker 4

Now when the forbearance and foreclosure period will end, it will be a Slow take up. We continue to grow in multifamily housing. So we think we're well positioned for 2022. Having said that, as Keith mentioned, we still need to continue to invest in ourselves and in our business. And it's not like Without headwinds in terms of some interest rates or inflation, we're in a good position to succeed.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Jeff Schmitt from William Blair.

Speaker 3

Hey, good morning, Jeff. Good morning.

Speaker 12

How much of the increase in fee income in Connected Living was due to the Hyla acquisition? Obviously, there's kind of a weak comparison too, but just curious how much of that is sort of organic growth maybe driven by the 5 gs upgrade cycle versus Hi, La being added to the mix.

Speaker 3

Yes, I would say, Hi La has been For me exceptionally well. So as we look at what's happened since close, trade in volumes are up Significantly. We've seen obviously not just demand from 5 gs, significant client promotions where trade ins are the main incentive being used, Increasing attach rates and just I think pent up demand coming out of the pandemic. So we talk about the performance of the Acquisition 50% better than we modeled based on 2021. So we're thrilled with how it's going.

Speaker 3

But More than that, really excited about the integration, how well that's working, our ability to protect talent, obviously, a significant renewal of a major relationship with AT and T. And then as you think about the overall volumes process, we talked That compares to $14,000,000 for full year 2020 and that's overall in total combining Hyland Assurance. So Yes, Hyland is a big driver of fee income, but we've also seen growth on what I would call the legacy Assurance side of the trade in business as well And similar trends are happening across clients and across the market. So it's a really strong time for trade in, in the global market.

Speaker 12

Okay, great. And then the Same day service capabilities days ago, it sounds like. Are those capabilities being just curious how you're managing that in the current environment?

Speaker 3

Yes, our team has done an incredible job. We've been working on this for many months, trying to acquire the right labor In various markets around the country, I would say our team, the recruiters that we're partnered with, some of the incentives that we've put in place to get the best Talon, it's worked really well. Not to say there aren't challenges, of course, there are, but our teams have partnered really well With 3rd parties as well as with T Mobile to make it happen.

Speaker 12

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our last question is coming from Grace Carter with Bank of America.

Speaker 2

Hey, good morning, Grace.

Speaker 9

Hi. We've talked a lot about structural tailwinds for attachment rates In mobile devices, one of them being rising prices, I was wondering in kind of this more inflationary environment That we're looking at, if you've seen any sort of tangible impact from the inflation impact on pricing Driving up attachment rates at all and to the extent that we continue to see a bit of higher inflation, if you think That should have any impact going forward?

Speaker 3

Yes, it's a great question. I would say maybe a little bit On the auto side, if you think about really more of a mix shift point, so used cars tend to attach at slightly higher rates The new cars and we've also seen obviously accelerating values on the used car side, which makes protecting the vehicle A higher likelihood, so we have seen a little bit of a mix shift there, which is benefiting the overall attach rate. I would say broadly though, pretty steady, pretty strong Across the board, so nothing that I would signal as being overly dramatic, but certainly good strong results.

Speaker 9

Okay. Thank you. And then just kind of a quick follow-up to that. I mean, we've seen attachment rates across mobile devices, Suzanne, cars going up over the past several years. I mean, do you think that there is an eventual stealing on how high attachment rates I mean, what's kind of the long term target there, I guess?

Speaker 3

I think it varies By market, by geography, some markets attach just based on consumer perception, consumer demand At higher levels, I definitely think we're we've got robust levels of attach rates broadly. I think they could still go up over time, certainly. I think awareness for the programs, the value proposition for our products continues to improve, the service delivery and the options for Consumers and how much more convenient and important the service is to them today than it was a few years ago. I think all of those elements can drive More attach rates in the future, so still some upside, but really robust if I look at it in mature markets and then certainly growth opportunity in More of the emerging or more nascent markets.

Speaker 9

Thank you and congrats to Alan.

Speaker 2

All right. Thank you, Grace.

Speaker 3

Thank you everyone for participating in today's call. In summary, We're very pleased with our year to date performance and we're excited about the opportunities we have to serve our partners, our end consumers, while delivering results for our shareholders. I look forward to officially taking the CEO role in January and updating you on our progress on the Q4 earnings call in February. We're also hard at work in anticipating Assurant's 2022 Virtual Investor Day, which we expect to hold on March 24, and more details will be forthcoming in the weeks months ahead. In the meantime, please reach out to Suzanne Shepherd and Sean Mosier with any follow-up questions.

Speaker 3

Thank you all and have a great day.

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. Please disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.

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