NASDAQ:BKNG Booking Q3 2021 Earnings Report $4,838.44 +10.47 (+0.22%) Closing price 04/25/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$4,843.50 +5.06 (+0.10%) As of 04/25/2025 07:42 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Booking EPS ResultsActual EPS$37.70Consensus EPS $31.56Beat/MissBeat by +$6.14One Year Ago EPS$12.27Booking Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$4.68 billionExpected Revenue$4.16 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$520.38 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABooking Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2021Date11/2/2021TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, November 2, 2021Conference Call Time8:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsBooking's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, April 29, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Booking Q3 2021 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 2, 2021 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Booking Holdings Third Quarter 2021 Conference Call. Booking Holdings would like to remind everyone that this call may contain forward looking statements, which are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward looking statements are not of future performance and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict. Therefore, actual results may differ materially from those expressed, implied or forecasted in any such forward looking statements. Operator00:00:44Expressions of future goals or expectations and similar expressions reflecting something other than historical fact are intended to identify forward looking statements. For a list of factors that could cause Booking Holdings actual results to differ materially Those described in the forward looking statements, please refer to the Safe Harbor statements at the end of Booking Holdings' earnings press release as well as Booking Holdings' most recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Unless required by law, Booking Holdings undertakes no obligation to update publicly and forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or other. A copy of the Booking Holdings earnings press release, together with a company financial and statistical supplement, is available in the For Investors section of Booking Holdings website, that's triple w.bookingholdings.com. And now I'd like to introduce Booking Holdings' speakers for this afternoon, Glyn Fogle And David Golden, I'll now turn the call over to Glenn Fogle, your CEO. Operator00:01:54Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:01:57Thank you, and welcome to Booking Holdings Third Quarter Conference Call. I'm joined this afternoon by our CFO, David Goulden. I am pleased to be reporting strong results today for our peak travel season. Compared with 2019, Q3 room nights were down 18%, which was an improvement from the 22% decline we previously reported for the month of July and the 26% decline in Q2. The improvement since July was primarily driven by stronger room night trends in Europe. Speaker 100:02:33In the United States, room night growth in Q3 was strong, but lower than Q2. Asia room night declines International travel, which is important to our business, drove the overall sequential improvement in room night trends from Q2 to Q3. Nevertheless, Our international room nights remain significantly depressed versus 2019. Q3 consolidated revenue of 4 point $7,000,000,000 was more than double the amount of revenue in Q2. The 3rd quarter was also our most Profitable quarter since Q3 2019 with $2,100,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA and a 45% adjusted EBITDA margin. Speaker 100:03:29Moving into the Q4, we have seen a further improvement in our room night trends in October, including early signs of a pickup in room night trends in Asia. However, recently rising COVID case counts in many countries, including several important European countries, adds to the uncertainty around how November December trends will progress. David will provide additional details on our Q3 results and what we are seeing so far in the Q4 in his remarks. The improvement in trends we saw in the Q3 and so far in the Q4 following the negative impact from the Delta variant in July August Once again demonstrates the resilience of leisure travelers who are looking to travel when it is safe to do so and restrictions are lifted. We are confident that we are on the path to the eventual strong recovery in travel demand globally. Speaker 100:04:29As the global recovery continues, we are making progress, strengthening our core accommodation business to support its long term growth. As I said before, the strength of our core business comes from driving benefits to our traveler customers and our supply partners alike. For our customers, we are aiming to create a superior booking experience and build stronger relationships, which we believe is accomplished Pre pandemic customers coming back and booking with us, while we're also attracting new customers. Importantly, We see our top customers from before the pandemic returning to us at a meaningfully higher frequency than other customers. Providing attractive prices on accommodations is a key component of offering value for our customers. Speaker 100:05:27We work closely with our supply partners to increase participation in our targeted rate programs to ensure compelling prices are available to our customers. Our Genius loyalty program at booking.com is a great example of a program where hundreds of thousands of our property partners are participating to offer lower rates and other benefits such as complimentary breakfast, Room upgrades and discounted airport taxis to our large customer base. In addition to offering lower rates on accommodations, We have recently extended lower rates on rental cars to our Genius customers. This is just one example of the way we continue to innovate and add value For our Genius members, with about 2 thirds of our room nights booked on mobile devices and the majority of those booked through the app, It's critical that we provide our customers with a positive booking experience on our app. The app is an important platform as it allows us more In the 3rd quarter, Booking.com was once again the number one downloaded OTA app globally according to a third party research firm. Speaker 100:06:45Also in the 3rd quarter, We surpassed 100,000,000 monthly active app users for the first time. The recent growth of Booking.com's app is encouraging and we are working hard to continue to build on this success. In the Q3, we saw a higher mix of our customers booking directly with us than in the Q3 of 2019. Our direct mix improved even as we leaned into performance marketing channels during our For example, with our ambition to acquire more customers in the medium intense space, we've made progress in strengthening our foundations for digital marketing, Including in social channels, though our spend so far has been small. However, we're increasingly confident in the potential for these channels. Speaker 100:08:00Remaining active and investing effectively across marketing channels is made even more important by the opportunity to acquire bookers who are new to online booking channels. Travel, like many industries during pandemic, has seen a meaningful shift from offline to online according to third party data, and this has increased Our addressable market. For our supply partners, we are focused on bringing incremental demand to their properties From the broad audience of potential customers on our platform, in a survey of 600 small and medium hoteliers in Europe conducted Earlier this year, 85 percent of respondents agreed that online platforms are a cost Efficient way to increase the reach of their hotel and source more diverse guests. We agree with this statement and believe it applies more broadly. Whether we are working with a small and medium hotel in Europe for an alternative accommodation or a large global hotel chain, We strive to be a valuable partner to all accommodation types on our platform. Speaker 100:09:09With our chain hotel partners, We are continuing to see increased engagement relative to 2019 levels, which shows up in higher levels of participation This increase in alternative accommodation share of our business in the quarter was less than it was in Q2, as we saw a greater sequential improvement in demand for hotel room nights in Europe from Q2 to Q3. Our property count of about 2,400,000 and reported listings of over 28,000,000 on booking.com Remains stable relative to the prior quarter. Let me talk more about some of our key strategic priorities, Payments and the Connected Trip, both of which we believe will further enhance the strength of our core accommodations business and support its continued growth. Turning to payments at booking.com. Last quarter, we spoke about the organization of all of our initiatives and efforts within a new fintech unit at Booking dotcom. Speaker 100:10:28The recently established fintech unit enables Booking dotcom Our supply partners in both the U. S. And Europe continues to grow. Adoption in the U. S. Speaker 100:10:56Has seen significant increases recently, driven by the additions of some major hotel chains in the second and third quarters, which we will look to build on in the 4th quarter. In Europe, more customers are choosing to pay using Booking.com's payment platform when finalizing their booking As attractive and localized options are provided, this is a result in nearly a third of Booking.com's total gross bookings in Q3 being processed through our payment platform, which is up from about 22% for the full year 2020. The FinTech unit is also driving continued payments innovation to ensure that growth is sustained into the future. This includes offering low cost payout choices to our suppliers as well as partnering with third parties to provide payment solutions to our bookers, such as buy now, pay later. We believe these efforts help position booking.com as an attractive and trusted payment intermediary for all parties on our platform. Speaker 100:12:04On our Connected Trip vision, we've been focused this year on enabling travelers We continue to work on scaling up our robust flight platform on booking.com, which will give us the ability to engage with flight bookers early in their travel journey and allow us an opportunity to cross sell our accommodation And other services to these bookers. Booking dotcom's select product is now live in 27 countries. Total company air tickets in the 3rd quarter was up 131% versus Q3 2019, primarily driven by strength at Priceline, but also helped by Booking.com's Flight Bo offering, which continues to meaningfully exceed our expectations. While it remains early days for bookings flight product, we are seeing that over 25% of bookings flight bookers Our entirely new customers, with these new customers, we are seeing an encouraging attach rate of accommodation bookings. However, there is more work to be done to further optimize the cross sell opportunity. Speaker 100:13:14The yearly signals help demonstrate though that a flight offer We are beginning to test initiatives targeting these new flight customers, including, for example, encouraging account creation to activate Genius status and in some cases offering additional incentives for them to book accommodations. We remain focused on continuing to test and innovate In order to build on the early successes we are seeing with flights at booking.com, we're also continuing to run tests using offerings from our verticals like Now before closing, I do want to note that as world leaders assembled this week in Glasgow to work for the goal of carbon neutrality by 2,050. Decarbonization It's a major challenge for the entire industry and solving this challenge requires the commitment of all stakeholders. I am proud to say that our company, Booking Holdings, is committed to addressing this challenge. We recently released a report that we commissioned with Parthenon that looks into what will it take to get the economies of industry specifically to a carbon neutral future. Speaker 100:14:41Well, a big task. Data shows it is achievable. At Booking.com, we are working on making it easier for travelers to find and choose In addition, we're working with our accommodation supply partners by sharing guidance, insights and best practices To enhance sustainability initiatives at the property level, of course, there is much more that must be done, We believe that we are taking important steps to contribute to a more sustainable future for our industry. And finally, we plan on publishing a Booking Holdings climate transition plan in early 2022, which we'll speak more about At that time, in conclusion, we executed well and produced strong results in our peak travel season, which is a credit To the hard work and support provided by the many teams across our company, I'm encouraged by the signs of recovery we are seeing in many parts of the world And I'm confident that we are on the path to an eventual strong recovery in travel demand globally. We continue with our important work To strengthen our company's position and execute against our strategic priorities, as I've said before, we are thinking about our business beyond just getting back 2019 levels of demand, and we are focused on building a larger and faster growing business that generates more earnings after the full recovery and for the long run. Speaker 100:16:14I'll now turn the call over to our CFO, David Golden. David? David is dialing back in, I think. Speaker 200:16:36Yes, I'm back in, Glenn. Sorry, have you just finished? Yes, I just finished. All right, perfect timing. Thank you. Speaker 200:16:42I was cut off and I'm back in again. So Thank you, Glenn, and good afternoon. I'll review our results for the Q3 and provide some color on the trends we've seen so far in the 4th quarter To avoid the comparison to the pandemic impacted periods in 2020, all growth rates are relative to comparable periods in 2019 unless otherwise indicated. Information regarding reconciliation of non GAAP results to GAAP results can be found in our earnings release. Now on to our results for the Q3. Speaker 200:17:12On our last earnings call, we discussed the improvement in trends that we saw throughout the Q2 driven by the U. S. And Europe, followed by a modest pullback in July. After our earnings call, we saw our overall trends improve in August and continue to get better in September, which resulted in Q3 reported room nights Declining 18% versus Q3 2019, which was ahead of the 26% decline in Q2 and the 22% decline in July. September was the strongest month in the 3rd quarter with room nights declining 14%, about the same level as June. Speaker 200:17:49The improvements in the Q3 room night decline versus Q2 were driven primarily by Europe, which benefited from strong cross border travel within the region. In Q3, room nights in Europe were down mid single digits versus 2019 with room night trends improving in August versus July. September was similar to August. You will recall the room night growth pulled back from June to July in Europe Due to concerns over the Delta variance, rest of world also improved from Q2 to Q3. In the U. Speaker 200:18:24S, we Q2 to Q3, however, the U. S. Still had strong growth in the quarter and remained our strongest performing major country in Q3. Within the U. S, we saw a meaningful slowdown in August from the very strong growth we experienced in July, followed by a recovery to strong growth in September. Speaker 200:18:44The slowdown in the U. S. In August was due to concerns about the Delta variance. Asian room night declines in Q3 were about in line with Q2. Room nights in Asia was still down significantly from 2019 levels. Speaker 200:18:58Mobile bookings, primarily through our apps, Represented about 2 thirds of our total room nights. Our apps continue to represent an increasing percentage of our mobile bookings. In Q3, as Glenn mentioned, we achieved an important milestone in the use of our app at booking.com surpassing 100,000,000 monthly active users. We're also pleased to see the number of unique customers booking via our app in the quarter grow strongly compared with Q3 2019. Our direct channel as a percentage of our room nights year on year and relative to Q3 2019 increased. Speaker 200:19:35While international room nights remained down versus 2019, we saw another sequential improvement in our international trends with the international mix of our room nights increasing to about 33% in Q3 from about 25% in Q2 and about 15% in Q1. Most of this improvement in international room nights came from bookings for travel within Europe. We continue to see Double digit growth in domestic room nights in Q3 were at a slightly lower level than in Q2. The pickup in international travel in the quarter Was a driver of the improvements in overall room night trends from Q2 to Q3. However, international room nights We're down almost 50% compared with Q3 twenty nineteen levels. Speaker 200:20:23Our Q3 cancellation rate was slightly above Q3 2019 levels. However, cancellation rates improved in the quarter and September was slightly better In 2019 for the month, percentage of our Q3 2021 bookings made with flexible cancellation policies remained significantly higher The booking window of Booking.com remains shorter than it was in the Q3 of 2019 And contracted more than it did in Q2 as we saw a high mix of near term bookings during our peak summer season. All regions had a shorter booking window in Q3 than in Q3 2019. For our alternative accommodations, the global mix of room nights in Q3 of about 30% was up slightly from Q3 2019. The increase in mix of alternative accommodations in the quarter was less than it was in Q2 as we saw a greater sequential improvement in demand for Hello room nights in Europe from Q2 to Q3. Speaker 200:21:31Our alternative accommodation room nights in Europe grew slightly in August September versus 2019 And for the quarter, we're about in line with Q3 2019. We believe we benefited from the strength of our portfolio in Europe, where we can respond to solid demand for alternative accommodations and an improving demand for hotels. Gross bookings declined 6% in Q3, which is less than the decline in room nights due to the increase in average day rates for accommodations of about 10% versus 2019 on a constant currency basis and also due to a couple of points of benefit Changes in FX rates and strong performance in our flight business. Our accommodations constant currency ADR benefited by just over 5 percentage points for an increased mix of business in North America, which is a high ADR region and a decrease of mix in Asia, which is a low ADR region. Excluding regional mix effects, constant currency ADRs were up just over 4%, driven mainly by rate increases In Europe and North America across many destination types with notable strength in beach oriented leisure destinations. Speaker 200:22:48Airlines tickets booked in the 3rd quarter were up 131% versus 2019 driven by very strong growth Our price line and by flight bookings at booking.com. We're encouraged to see another quarter of triple digit growth from our flights business, which are key components of our multi product connected trip strategy. Consolidated revenue for the Q3 was $4,700,000,000 which was 7% below Q3 2019 and was more than double the amount of revenue in Q2 2021, A far greater sequential improvement than in 2019. Our Q3 revenue as a percentage of gross bookings was about in line With Q3 2019, which was in line with our expectations, we experienced even more revenue seasonality in Q3 2021 than normal Due to the concentration of stays in Q3 from bookings made in the quarter and also from bookings made in the quarter when customers could book accommodations The strong top line performance resulted in adjusted EBITDA of $2,100,000 in the 3rd quarter, which is 15% below Q3 2019. Marketing expense, which is a highly variable expense item, decreased 3% versus Q3 twenty nineteen. Speaker 200:24:12Marketing expense declined by Sales and other expenses in Q3 were significantly higher than they were in Q2 on a dollar basis due to higher volume of merchant gross bookings, which increased As a percentage of total gross bookings in the 3rd quarter, at Booking dotcom, the amount of gross bookings processed through our Sales platform in Q3 was over $6,000,000,000 which was almost 1 third of Booking.com's business, up from about a quarter in Q2. Our more fixed expense categories in Q3 in aggregate came in 3% lower than Q2, as the $136,000,000 Personnel expense in the 2nd quarter related to our decision to repay the government aid was mostly offset by an increase from Q2 to Q3 in our bonus accruals and digital service tax expense, both of which are accrue proportional to revenue. Our non GAAP EPS was $37.70 down 17% versus Q3 2019. Non GAAP net income of $1,600,000,000 Reflects a non GAAP tax rate of 21%, which is higher than the 19% in Q3 2019 due to a higher proportion of non tax deductible expenses in relation to lower pretax income versus 2019. On a GAAP basis, we had operating income of $2,000,000,000 in Q3. Speaker 200:25:45We recorded GAAP net income of $769,000,000 in the quarter, which includes A $1,000,000,000 pretax unrealized loss on our equity investments primarily related to our investment in Metuhan as well as income tax expense of $199,000,000 Now on to our cash and liquidity position. Our Q3 ending cash and investment balance of $15,400,000,000 was down Our Q2 ending balance of $16,100,000,000 after $1,500,000,000 of free cash flow was more than offset by the repayments $1,000,000,000 convertible note that maturing in Q3 and the $1,000,000,000 unrealized loss on our equity investments. The return of capital to shareholders has and will be an important component of our value creation strategy. Throughout the COVID pandemic, We said that we restart returning capital to shareholders when we saw that our 3 largest regions were no longer at meaningful risk of a major reversal due to COVID and have also become more predictable. Assuming the travel recovery continues, we plan to restart returning capital in early 2022 under our remaining authorization, assuming continued recovery, we'd expect to complete this authorization within 3 years from restarting. Speaker 200:27:00Now on to our thoughts for the Q4. October room nights declined 10% This is 2019, which is better than the 14% decline in September. The improvements in October was driven mainly by Asia, Although the region remains down considerably versus 2019, the improvement in Asia was led by domestic travel within many countries and was driven by improving vaccination progress and government's easy restrictions on travel. Room night growth in the U. S. Speaker 200:27:32Improved little from September to October And remained strong in October. Rest of World also improved little in October and was back close to 2019 levels. Room up declines in Europe were about the same in October as they were in September, but weakened towards the end of the month. This resulted in overall room night declines being higher in the last week of October than the average for the month. The slowdown at the end of October in Europe was driven by a number of countries that have seen recent increases in COVID infections including Germany, Russia and Italy. Speaker 200:28:08Given the ongoing uncertainty around COVID, it's difficult to predict how Rune Nights in November December will compare with the 10% Looking forward to November December, the rising case counts across many important Western European countries And across much of Eastern Europe as well as the start of the winter season in the Northern Hemisphere, which in 2020 contributed to an increase in COVID cases Create unpredictability. Also pre pandemic, the contribution of Asia to total room nights was highest in November December And Asia is still our least recovered region. On a more positive note, since the U. S. Announced in late September plans to ease travel restrictions in November International travelers who are vaccinated, we've seen a significant improvement in room nights booked by Europeans who traveled to the U. Speaker 200:28:59S. As well as a reverse. Also, we're pleased to see more gross bookings on the books for the Christmas New Year period than we saw at this time in 2019 in the U. S. And Western Europe. Speaker 200:29:12Turning to the income statement, we expect Q4 gross bookings to decline by a few points less than room nights, Driven by higher reported ADRs and flight bookings versus 2019, we expect less of an increase in our ADRs in Q4 than Q3, We expect Q4 revenue to decline more than gross bookings due to a couple of factors. The first is that due to the short booking window in Q3, A lower percentage of Q3 bookings than normal will stay in Q4. The second is due to our expectation that the booking window will contract less In Q4 than it did in Q3, resulting in more bookings made in the quarter that are expected to check-in, in future quarters. As a result, we expect our revenue as a percentage of gross bookings to be more than 1% below Q4 2019. This also means we expect Q4 revenue to have a greater sequential decrease from Q3 than we saw in 2019 and we expect Q4 revenue to decline more than it did in Q3. Speaker 200:30:27We expect Q4 marketing expense as a percentage of gross bookings increased slightly versus 2019 as we expect to invest in capturing demand and increasing awareness during the continued global recovery of travel demand. We expect Q4 sales and other expenses to be lower than we were in Q3 due to lower merchant transaction volumes. However, we expect sales and other expense in the 4th quarter to be higher than in Q4 2019 Due to higher merchant volumes and mix, we expect our more fixed expense categories in Q4 in aggregate to be down in line with Q3 on a dollar basis. We expect Q4 EBITDA to be positive, but driven largely by the higher but driven largely by the higher than normal seasonal decrease in revenue, We expect a much greater seasonal sequential decrease in EBITDA from Q3 to Q4 than normal. In conclusion, we are pleased with our recovery in the top line in Q3, which led to strong financial results for the quarter. Speaker 200:31:37The financial strength we saw in Q3 was helped by the concentration of stays in the quarter, which will lead to some differences in the comparison of Q4 to Q3 Relative to what we've seen in prior years, October room night trends improved relative to September driven by some encouraging trends in Asia. However, recently, the rising case counts across Europe increases the uncertainty about how trends will progress in November December. In closing, we're confident in our ability to capture demand as the global recovery continues and to execute against our strategic priorities. With that, I'll now take your questions. And Eli, I'll turn it over to you to open the line for questions. Operator00:32:18Thank you. Your first question is from the line of Justin Twist of Bank of America. Your line is now open. Speaker 300:32:45Great. Thank you for taking my questions. Great to see Europe recovering. With room nights down 10% versus 2019, Glenn, maybe you could go through what needs to happen from here to get above 2019? What areas still need to come back Sure. Speaker 300:33:02I imagine it's Asia, but your thoughts on that. And then David, maybe you could talk about core business margins versus 2019. Let's ignore payments and thank you, Tripp, for now, but how are you thinking of the puts and takes on the core business versus 2019? Thank you. Speaker 100:33:20Hi, Justin. So I don't think it's a very hard answer really what we need. What we need It's obviously more of a recovery against this pandemic because that's clearly what's driving the Problem in many industries are particularly. For us, we've talked about this a few times. We talked about Yes, our business has done well with international and international generally has been hard hit, albeit we are seeing some better things, But that's the long haul is still a problem. Speaker 100:33:53Yes, we're seeing some numbers coming up in Asia. Great. I love it. The fact that people are getting more vaccinated in Asia, That's great. The fact that vaccines are being distributed more broadly and getting around, that's great. Speaker 100:34:06The fact that the pharmaceutical companies are coming out with New ways to combat against this terrible virus with pills now that can help people who have caught it, but end up being hopefully healthier quicker, All good things, but what we need really is for everyone who can get a vaccine to please go out Get that vaccine, if you're medically able to and you're capable of getting it, please get that will help hasten the recovery for not only the travel industry, But the entire world, and that's what we hope will happen. Obviously, we're doing everything we can, so we're prepared when that day comes, which it will. We can't say when, but we know it will come. And we're preparing by doing all the things that David and I have been talking about, preparing with our partners And getting our marketing prepared and doing all the steps that you know we've been doing to make sure that when travel comes back to And David, do you want to answer you can answer the second question and answer mine too. Speaker 200:35:06Yes. Sure, Don. I won't add to yours, but I think that was great. Justin, we've actually been through this before, so I'll be relatively quick on the puts and takes In the core accommodation business, our underlying take rates have been solid And obviously, the reported take rates are a function of timing, so that continues to go well for us. As we get back to 2019 levels, there will be some On the personnel line, everybody knows there's a war for tech talent out there and we've had 2 or 3 years worth of merit increases and other Expenses in and other increases in our cost base, of course, we did take expenses out, but they're variable expenses. Speaker 200:35:46So they will come back with some Over time, there will be some pressure on the personnel line. But there are other things that are in the model that we can use to offset that pressure. We can get extra economies of scale as the business grows beyond 2019 levels on both the Fixed costs and on the variable cost side as well. There are opportunities in our direct mix, which of course is very important. And of course, a key element to this will be what happens to our overall ROIs on the performance marketing side, where we saw some increases in the first half of the year. Speaker 200:36:20We saw Some small compression in the second half of this year, but those markets are very variable and very dynamic and we're pleased with how we're doing in those markets. The last point I want to leave you with on that topic Is that within our core business, there's always a trade off between growth market share and profitability. So to the extent we see opportunities, we're leaning in. We want to try and drive market share increases where we think that we can. That will pressure the business in the short term as we lean into making Investments and also the investment in marketing and other areas will basically be a leading indicator relative to revenue. Speaker 200:36:56So There will and we do believe that there are opportunities for us to gain share in accommodations through this recovery and beyond. So that would be an additional factor in the mix and how we think about the long term business margins in accommodations. Speaker 300:37:10Great. Thank you. Operator00:37:15Your next question is from Kevin Kopelman of Cowen and Company. Your line is now open. Speaker 300:37:23Great. Thanks so much. Hoping to dig into ad spend trends a little bit. So spend is going up a little. How much of that is booking getting more aggressive as demand picks up versus a more competitive overall ad environment? Speaker 300:37:38And then Compared to 2019, has the distribution in brand and performance changed meaningfully? And lastly, Can you give us an update on the kind of merchandising and promotion, some of the merchandising and promotion tests that you've done over the past couple of quarters? Thanks. Speaker 100:37:57So David, why don't you take the first two about the ad competitiveness and I think some brand Question and I will talk a little bit about some of the merchandising. Speaker 200:38:07Exactly. Thank you, Glenn. Let's do that. So, Ken, if you remember, we Speaker 100:38:13On the Speaker 200:38:13last call, we said that we expect to see some reduction in ROIs in Q3 versus 2019. And actually, the ROIs came out Very much where we expect them to. Actually, our direct mix was slightly better than we expected in Q3, and that's why there was less of a compression In the difference between gross bookings and marketing that we actually expected in Q3. So that's positive. It was really Something that we I'd say that was more what we did because we expected that to be the outcome. Speaker 200:38:44Of course, these markets are dynamic and as recovery continues, more and more players will come back into marketplace, but basically what happened in Q3 was very much in line with what we told you a quarter ago would happen. The mix in between brands and the performance has not materially changed. If you recall, back in 2019, We were over 90% or around 90% of our marketing spend was in performance marketing. We are looking to Move up to move the brand spend up a little bit over time, but of course brand has been very much shut down in 2020. It's now coming back on In 2021, so we're not in a very different position than where we were in 2019, but we do see the opportunity to continue to trend a little bit more Towards brands, some of which might go on at the mid funnel market opportunities that Glenn talked about. Speaker 200:39:37And then Glenn, I'll hand over to you to talk about the third one. Speaker 100:39:41Yes. So Kevin, obviously, merchandising is very important. The reason why we built out and are continuing to build out our payments platform@booking.com is making sure that we're able to compete and provide great value to our And what's really important is not doing just out of our own pocket, but working with our partners, coming up with the right time to the right consumer, the right offer and helping them, Our supply partners also provide some of that, let's say, added value. So for example, we may do flash sales. You may hope you've seen some, hope I hope you actually booked some of them. Speaker 100:40:16That's an example. What are things, for example, when somebody is getting an accommodation and we're able to offer them either lower cost Even free sometimes rides from the airport to the hotel. And there are all different variations that we can do with the different verticals In coming up with the best combination, trying to do as much as we can with our suppliers' money, but sometimes using our own too to come up with really is an attractive offer, So the consumer knows that when they come to our site, they're getting the best value because value really is one of the key strategic objectives for us, always providing that. Speaker 300:40:53Thanks, Glenn. Thanks, David. Really helpful. Operator00:40:58Your next question is from Deepak Mathivanan from Wolfe Research. Your line is now open. Speaker 400:41:06Thanks. This is Zach on for Deepak. Thanks for taking the questions. First on pent up demand, obviously, it's been a nice tailwind for your business over and just general travel demand over the last few quarters. Just curious how you're thinking about whether there's another leg to run on the level of pent up demand. Speaker 400:41:23Asia is still kind of depressed as you noted and Cross border restrictions are kind of easing. So as we look into next year, how are you guys thinking about the level of pent up demand? And then second, When we kind of dig a little further into the current trends, is there any kind of reversal in terms of urban versus suburban or shorter versus longer Speaker 100:41:46Zack, so just to make sure I understood your first part of your question, you're just asking a little bit about how we're going to Get the demand that's coming in the future. Do I have that correct? Speaker 400:41:56Just, I guess, like understanding whether level of pent up demand that you guys Kind of expecting as we move into next year, given there's still current travel restrictions, especially on the cross border side, Asia Pacific remains depressed. So as we look into next year, we see another kind of boost Speaker 100:42:13your headwind? I got it. Okay. While I do that first half and then I'll let David say whatever what we feel we can Disclosed regarding any of the trends, regarding different parts of the business. So we absolutely know there's huge pent up demand because anytime any government let's go restriction, we see immediate Demand. Speaker 100:42:38So for example, the announcement of the November 8 opening for people to come to the U. S, immediately we saw demand. In the U. K, when they changed restriction, immediate demand. So we know it's there, absolutely. Speaker 100:42:54Now how much? We don't have a way Quantify it, but we do know if you look at, particularly in the U. S, when you look at what people's savings rates are right now, We have been able to save a lot of money during this pandemic and they want to spend it. And one of the things people have not been able to do as much as they want to is go travel. So I believe there is a significant amount of demand there just waiting to come out. Speaker 100:43:18But of course, it has to we have to have these restrictions for the long haul International travel will open up, and we also we know that it's important that we always provide the best value so that when they do travel, they come to us. And Dave, I don't know what you can say about suburban, local, far, what you can say. Speaker 200:43:38Yes. Zach, Q3 saw a strong recovery across the geographies that we talked about. So I'd say that there's still a bias towards a more leisure outdoor oriented activity, particularly beach Warranty properties did very well in the summer months in the Northern Hemisphere, but we do see some recovery into the cities as well. I mean, I think this we all know anecdotally, if you want to Hotel room 9 in a city, it's becoming increasingly hard. So we are seeing recovery across the board, although still more oriented towards the Outdoor Beach, Forage and Leisure Locations. Speaker 400:44:19Great. Thank you. Operator00:44:25All right. Your next question is from Mark Mahoney of Evercore ISI. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:44:32Thanks. Three quick ones, please. Any impact at all from IDFA? Secondly, those 100,000,000 Mobile app MAUs, do you have enough history to know if those are if they act Materially different? Are they more or less profitable? Speaker 500:44:48Are they more or less loyal than more or less likely to convert than the users that you had And then 3rd, please, the rolling out of the Air Products to more markets, you have it in 21 markets, you rolled out some good statistics here about how 25% of And there was something you said about add on sales, if you could just repeat what that was. But it all sounds like that's a really good product addition. So I guess the action question is, How long will it take you to roll it out fully across all markets given how positive it's been so far? Speaker 100:45:21Thanks, Mark. Why don't I take let me do the Ericsson question first, then I'll talk a little bit about IDFA, and I'll let David what he wants to say about Our app and I'm not sure how I'll let him be as free as he wants to be or not about what we see in terms of profitability, etcetera. So you're absolutely right about the Air business, very exciting for us, of course, and we've been working on it. And it's interesting because I happen to have noticed that In the Q1 call, in 2020, just as things started going very bad for the whole world, We're talking about the just starting out in the air business at booking.com in the Q4 2019. And I mentioned about we're I'm trying to get to that 50% coverage of Booking.com customers. Speaker 100:46:08I was looking forward to hopefully doing that for 2020. And of course, that didn't quite happen exactly what we wanted, but the question and it wasn't from you, Mark, who is another analyst who asked about why not 100%. And I said, well, the 50% was just we want to get to that year, I was hoping, of course, we want to get to 100%. And that still is the same thing. Yes, we're 27 countries. Speaker 100:46:28Of course, we want to get to every single country to anybody we currently deal with. We want to be able to provide them with an air ticket, But it takes time. It's not something you just flip a switch. You have to actually go through regulations to get licensing and all sorts of things. So we're rolling it out as we can, as we should, and we will get to 100% at some point. Speaker 100:46:48Now I do want to point out that we are at that over that 50% Number right now. So I am pleased with where we are with that. I also want to say though, it's still so early. We're not doing big marketing yet, real big marketing. There are a lot of opportunities to get a much higher number of people coming to this Era product. Speaker 100:47:05And the reason that we like is not only the 25% of new customers, which of course is fantastic, But it is that attachment rate, which I haven't given a number, but I'm pleased with where we are with that right now. And again, that's something we have not optimized There's a lot of opportunity there to optimize that and get an even higher attach rate. And that's part of the overall vision Of being able to bring new customers in from different verticals, different ways than we've done in the past, which was primarily pay for performance marketing NPL are bringing a lot more customer and as we talked a little bit earlier in a previous answer about being able to provide them with a lot more value. Your first question about IDFA, look, these privacy related changes, they only impact a small part of our marketing. And it's obviously not unique to our company. Speaker 100:47:54We know that. I'm very confident we can manage through this. And as we know, as you know, most of our marketing Primarily, it's paid marketing channels like PPC and Meta, and that's not going to be directly impacted by any of these kinds of changes. Our focus is always on 1st party data. We want to leverage the data in the marketing. Speaker 100:48:13And any of these changes to privacy like Yes, I think this does not really impact us. And I think you would know, we chose not Since then, so I really don't think this is a big deal for us. I'm very proud of the team in our whole marketing. They will be able to work and come up with, I would say privacy oriented ways to continue to be able to market with good tracking and ROIs. And David, I think you had number 2, which was about the monthly active users through mobile. Speaker 200:48:54Yes, I've got number 2. And Mark, what I can tell you is we kind of watch very carefully How are different types of direct users respond? And obviously, the more direct we can get, the better and the more those direct And there are 3 types of direct customers. The direct customers using the app, the direct customers that come to On the mobile web, there are customers who come to us on desktop. And perhaps not too surprisingly, the direct customers on the app measured by the metric I just Talked about our most loyal cohort of direct customers. Speaker 200:49:30So it's a good thing. We want to get more of them there. And A lot of our marketing that we do these agencies oriented, actually getting people to download and use the app because it's sticky. Speaker 500:49:42Thank you, Glenn. Thank you, David. Operator00:49:47Next, we have Eric Sheridan from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Speaker 600:49:53Thanks so much for taking the question. I want to come back to the comments you talked about a little bit earlier around the dynamics around hotel room night growth With traditional hotel supply room night growth versus alternative accommodations, curious what your view is on how the landscape on both the supply and the demand side Might evolve as we move into a post pandemic world and aim towards summer of 2022 and how you think about making investments on supply to match up the way in which there might be a more normalized travel environment in 2022. Thanks so much. Speaker 100:50:26Thank you. I'll give my first comments, I'll let David can always add if you'd like. So we saw before the pandemic an increase in the alternative accommodations business So it became a larger and larger share of the total accommodations business and it was going on a pretty steady rate going up. And dynamic happens And you get a step change as people desire safety, being away from crowds and they go there. And now we've seen for ourselves, we've seen I think the long term trend though will continue. Speaker 100:50:59And I think if you look 5 years in the future, I think alternative accommodations will be a higher share. That means, of course, for us, as we've talked about this in the past, how important it is that we go out and make sure we get the best supply we can get. And that means working hard on that and making sure that the people who own these properties see us as a platform that they want to use It's first in their mind that this is a great way to fill up their properties, and that's something we are working on absolutely. The demand side is similar. Go to Europe, and we've talked about them in the past, and said, where can I get a villa? Speaker 100:51:31In the south of France, people will say, I think booking.com is a great place. He went to The U. S, and we said, hey, I need a vacation place to ski, they may not think of Booking dot com first. We got to get that awareness up, and I've talked about that in the past, That's what we have to do also. But one of the truly great things about Booking.com is we offer more of both. Speaker 100:51:51Nobody offers you put together hotels And alternative accommodations, to put that together, we're the ones who have both of those. And I really believe that's a superior way for somebody to decide What they're going to choose in terms of accommodation, and we see this in our data. We see people come, they look first start looking at one type and then they end up booking another type. And they're able to compare and contrast both of them, see the reviews on both, look at the prices on both. What are they going to get from 1? Speaker 100:52:19What are they going to get from the other? That's why we believe we have a superior offering to the consumer. And, I do believe though that is something that absolutely is going to continue. But on the other side, You all see the hotels, they're making some moves themselves and they're coming up with ways to offer a better offering providing Some of the benefits of an alternative accommodation to a consumer, particularly so they are prepared as people work in a new way in the future and want to have Both the benefits of the hotel, but perhaps more room or more services that you can get in terms of making sure you have good Wi Fi or a place you can do your work at. And that's something I see also. Speaker 100:52:57Hotels are definitely going to be getting into that space. David, I don't know if you want to say anything more to that. Speaker 200:53:02I think that's good to it. I'll just point out that To your point that, that strength and that balance in both clearly contributed to us having a strong Q3 because we saw the strong demand in alternative continue, then we saw Sequentially, a much bigger increase from Q222 to Q3 in hotels that we could offer both. Speaker 600:53:20Thanks so much for the color. Operator00:53:26All right. Next we have Stephen Ju of Credit Suisse. Your line is now open. Speaker 700:53:31Okay. Thank you so much. So Glenn, I think in the past we've talked about your payments product helping to expand your TAM by So onboarding those users who may not necessarily be using credit cards and instead online payment services. Given the overall, I guess, State of travel in Asia, maybe much of that value unlock is still in front of us, but are you seeing evidence in other regions of the world That this is helping to bring in that incremental user. And also, just the rising ability for you guys to merchandise as you Due more the connected trip opens up a greater opportunity for you guys to run promos and change prices and hence flex your gross margins up and down to drive There's still a pretty material gap in ROI from doing one versus the other at this point in terms of what you perceive. Speaker 100:54:30So I'll talk about the first one about our payments. I'll let Dave talk about ROIs on our merchandising approach and how we're doing that. So you're absolutely right. If somebody doesn't have the ability to pay for something because they don't have the appropriate payment method, then they're not going to be able to buy from that Person and or that company like us, so we always have to do that. So if you are in Southeast Asia and let's say somebody is using most, let's say Grab, who's a partner of ours And they're using GrabPay. Speaker 100:54:57Well, if we're not able to use GrabPay for the hotel taking the money in from the consumer, that person is not going to use us, they're going to use somebody else. We have I see Grant Paine, our partner working on that. Or if you look at it other ways, people who say they go and look, it's not their favorite, they could use it another way, They still decide not to use up. There's something else we've seen, which is really interesting, is that just having more ways to accept payments Seems to increase conversion sometimes. I don't know why. Speaker 100:55:26I can't give you a science. I just need data. This is it. That's interesting. The other side is making sure we're Paying the supplier the way they want to get the money because sometimes they say, I don't want to get it the way you're doing it with a virtual credit card Well, I don't want to get it in terms of a bank transfer. Speaker 100:55:43I want to get it some other way. So we've got to be able to do that, and that improves our relationship with the It particularly improves with the supplier when the method that we can get the money to them is cheaper than the method they are currently using. That's a great thing. When we can do that, there's another value add to that hotel or any other type of supplier. Lots of ways that we're going to do that and there are all other things The FinTech part of our business that we're just starting out, we talked last time about setting up that unit. Speaker 100:56:11There are a lot of opportunities there. We talked about how in 2019, we did over $100,000,000,000 worth of gross bookings. And our idea is to let's Find ways that we can monetize that better and let's find ways we can provide value to both consumers and suppliers. David, I don't know if you want to talk a little about ROIs and how we're doing the merchandise. Speaker 200:56:33Sure. So as Glenn said, Payments is increasingly becoming part of the core value proposition that we offer at Booking.com in particular to both customers and partners. So it's no longer just kind of, I mean, we think of as an add on, it really is solving problems for both of them in cost effective ways and risk reduction ways They couldn't do as efficiently themselves. So that's why it's growing so rapidly as a percentage of our mix. Now you're right, Stephen, that once we're on payments, we can Participate in merchandising, of course, the most efficient way to get rates is to source great rates, which Glenn talked about a fair amount in his comments. Speaker 200:57:12But if we need to participate over and above the sourcing and driving Driving promotional targeting, particularly using in particular markets, we can with the payments platform. And we now have enough Experience on rug bells, enough instrumentation around that, that we can treat that, as you mentioned, as a marketing investment and look at it in a very similar way To the way that we look at our spend in the performance channels, for example, compare ROIs one versus the other and decide what the right mix is. So correct, with payments becoming a bigger piece of our proposition, where we can, where we need to, where we think it makes sense, we can look at merchandising through A strong ROI lens, we can be quite proactive in that area and compare it directly with other forms of spending on marketing. Operator00:58:01Thank you. Next, we have Doug Anmuth of JPMorgan. Your line is now open. Speaker 700:58:13Thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted Speaker 600:58:16to ask about Social advertising, I know the dollars there are still small, but just curious what gives you the confidence in that working The point of potentially adding some real dollars there, it's an area you've tried before, so just curious kind of what's different now. And then secondly, David, if you could just walk through those 4Q sequential revenue dynamics again and if there's something that's particularly different as opposed to just the normal seasonality? Thanks. Speaker 100:58:46Hi, Doug. So, yes, so Absolutely small numbers right now. And I think I said that in my prepared remarks. These are small, small numbers right now. But obviously, there are a huge number of potential customers who are in those areas where we want to reach out, make sure they're aware of us and they're coming to us. Speaker 100:59:06So it's a place that we're not going to ignore. Now we obviously have to come up with the right method, the right way to present our offerings, the way we're going to present our brand And be able to get them to come to us. And that means we've got to be able to measure, are we getting a good return or not? And I don't want to give too much in terms of details how we're doing, what we're I'm feeling good about how we're building it up. And if we see the right returns, the right ROIs because we are always very conscious of spending that advertising money the right way, Then we will scale up and spend more money. Speaker 100:59:36And that's what I said in the prepared remarks. I feel good about where we are now because the great thing about our business, our Company, the way we think is we're not dogmatic. We don't think just because we thought it at first this would be great, but then we absolutely are going to do it. We're going to do it, experiment, Put money to work, see the results, test and then we'll learn. And if it's great, we're going to put more money. Speaker 100:59:57If not, we'll come up with another way. That's how we built this company. That's what we'll do in the future. And David, I think there was a question for you there. Speaker 201:00:06Yes. Doug, let me explain that So I'll re explain that whole seasonality thing because this is quite important and we can explain it at a kind of high level. So Q3 was very strong. It was almost artificially strong from a revenue point of view because you got 2 things unnaturally healthy. First of all, remember, A lot of bookings in Q1, Q2 that would have normally stayed in Q1, Q2 stayed in Q3. Speaker 201:00:28So we got that benefit compared to a normal Q3. On top of that, In the quarter, more bookings in Q3 than normal stayed in Q3. So because the booking window was so short, So Q3 got topped up 2 ways from Q1, Q2 and in Q3. So now when you think of Q4 You are now comparing it against a very top up Q3 and some of that top up in Q3 directly impacts Q4. So Q4 gets impacted by It's a strong Q3, but think some of those Q3 bookings that normally would stay in Q4 stay in Q3. Speaker 201:01:03So you've now got, if you like, A double factor driving the comparison between Q3 and Q4. Also, we believe the booking window will start And in Q4, so more of the bookings in Q4 will actually leak out of Q4 than did in Q3 relatively. So you've got these two factors kind of driving A very unusual comparison between Q3 and Q4. So a fair amount more sequential revenue declines, all timing and all mechanics, Think of it as a Q4 comparing to Q3 on steroids. And some of the reason why Q3 was on steroids will directly impact Q4. Speaker 201:01:38So that's what's going on. Speaker 601:01:41Got it. Very helpful. Thanks for the clarity there. Operator01:01:47And that concludes the Q and A session. I will now turn the call back to Glenn Fogo for closing remarks. Speaker 101:01:54Thank you. So in closing, I want to repeat what I said at the close of last quarter's earnings call and reiterate our strong belief that our industry's Full recovery will be hastened by everyone who can get a vaccine going out and getting it. We urge all people who are approved for and medically able to be Go get one. And as always, I want to thank our partners, our customers, our dedicated employees And our shareholders, we appreciate your support as we continue to build on the long term vision for our company. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Booking Holdings Third Quarter 2021 Conference Call. Booking Holdings would like to remind everyone that this call may contain forward looking statements, which are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward looking statements are not of future performance and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict. Therefore, actual results may differ materially from those expressed, implied or forecasted in any such forward looking statements. Operator00:00:44Expressions of future goals or expectations and similar expressions reflecting something other than historical fact are intended to identify forward looking statements. For a list of factors that could cause Booking Holdings actual results to differ materially Those described in the forward looking statements, please refer to the Safe Harbor statements at the end of Booking Holdings' earnings press release as well as Booking Holdings' most recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Unless required by law, Booking Holdings undertakes no obligation to update publicly and forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or other. A copy of the Booking Holdings earnings press release, together with a company financial and statistical supplement, is available in the For Investors section of Booking Holdings website, that's triple w.bookingholdings.com. And now I'd like to introduce Booking Holdings' speakers for this afternoon, Glyn Fogle And David Golden, I'll now turn the call over to Glenn Fogle, your CEO. Operator00:01:54Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:01:57Thank you, and welcome to Booking Holdings Third Quarter Conference Call. I'm joined this afternoon by our CFO, David Goulden. I am pleased to be reporting strong results today for our peak travel season. Compared with 2019, Q3 room nights were down 18%, which was an improvement from the 22% decline we previously reported for the month of July and the 26% decline in Q2. The improvement since July was primarily driven by stronger room night trends in Europe. Speaker 100:02:33In the United States, room night growth in Q3 was strong, but lower than Q2. Asia room night declines International travel, which is important to our business, drove the overall sequential improvement in room night trends from Q2 to Q3. Nevertheless, Our international room nights remain significantly depressed versus 2019. Q3 consolidated revenue of 4 point $7,000,000,000 was more than double the amount of revenue in Q2. The 3rd quarter was also our most Profitable quarter since Q3 2019 with $2,100,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA and a 45% adjusted EBITDA margin. Speaker 100:03:29Moving into the Q4, we have seen a further improvement in our room night trends in October, including early signs of a pickup in room night trends in Asia. However, recently rising COVID case counts in many countries, including several important European countries, adds to the uncertainty around how November December trends will progress. David will provide additional details on our Q3 results and what we are seeing so far in the Q4 in his remarks. The improvement in trends we saw in the Q3 and so far in the Q4 following the negative impact from the Delta variant in July August Once again demonstrates the resilience of leisure travelers who are looking to travel when it is safe to do so and restrictions are lifted. We are confident that we are on the path to the eventual strong recovery in travel demand globally. Speaker 100:04:29As the global recovery continues, we are making progress, strengthening our core accommodation business to support its long term growth. As I said before, the strength of our core business comes from driving benefits to our traveler customers and our supply partners alike. For our customers, we are aiming to create a superior booking experience and build stronger relationships, which we believe is accomplished Pre pandemic customers coming back and booking with us, while we're also attracting new customers. Importantly, We see our top customers from before the pandemic returning to us at a meaningfully higher frequency than other customers. Providing attractive prices on accommodations is a key component of offering value for our customers. Speaker 100:05:27We work closely with our supply partners to increase participation in our targeted rate programs to ensure compelling prices are available to our customers. Our Genius loyalty program at booking.com is a great example of a program where hundreds of thousands of our property partners are participating to offer lower rates and other benefits such as complimentary breakfast, Room upgrades and discounted airport taxis to our large customer base. In addition to offering lower rates on accommodations, We have recently extended lower rates on rental cars to our Genius customers. This is just one example of the way we continue to innovate and add value For our Genius members, with about 2 thirds of our room nights booked on mobile devices and the majority of those booked through the app, It's critical that we provide our customers with a positive booking experience on our app. The app is an important platform as it allows us more In the 3rd quarter, Booking.com was once again the number one downloaded OTA app globally according to a third party research firm. Speaker 100:06:45Also in the 3rd quarter, We surpassed 100,000,000 monthly active app users for the first time. The recent growth of Booking.com's app is encouraging and we are working hard to continue to build on this success. In the Q3, we saw a higher mix of our customers booking directly with us than in the Q3 of 2019. Our direct mix improved even as we leaned into performance marketing channels during our For example, with our ambition to acquire more customers in the medium intense space, we've made progress in strengthening our foundations for digital marketing, Including in social channels, though our spend so far has been small. However, we're increasingly confident in the potential for these channels. Speaker 100:08:00Remaining active and investing effectively across marketing channels is made even more important by the opportunity to acquire bookers who are new to online booking channels. Travel, like many industries during pandemic, has seen a meaningful shift from offline to online according to third party data, and this has increased Our addressable market. For our supply partners, we are focused on bringing incremental demand to their properties From the broad audience of potential customers on our platform, in a survey of 600 small and medium hoteliers in Europe conducted Earlier this year, 85 percent of respondents agreed that online platforms are a cost Efficient way to increase the reach of their hotel and source more diverse guests. We agree with this statement and believe it applies more broadly. Whether we are working with a small and medium hotel in Europe for an alternative accommodation or a large global hotel chain, We strive to be a valuable partner to all accommodation types on our platform. Speaker 100:09:09With our chain hotel partners, We are continuing to see increased engagement relative to 2019 levels, which shows up in higher levels of participation This increase in alternative accommodation share of our business in the quarter was less than it was in Q2, as we saw a greater sequential improvement in demand for hotel room nights in Europe from Q2 to Q3. Our property count of about 2,400,000 and reported listings of over 28,000,000 on booking.com Remains stable relative to the prior quarter. Let me talk more about some of our key strategic priorities, Payments and the Connected Trip, both of which we believe will further enhance the strength of our core accommodations business and support its continued growth. Turning to payments at booking.com. Last quarter, we spoke about the organization of all of our initiatives and efforts within a new fintech unit at Booking dotcom. Speaker 100:10:28The recently established fintech unit enables Booking dotcom Our supply partners in both the U. S. And Europe continues to grow. Adoption in the U. S. Speaker 100:10:56Has seen significant increases recently, driven by the additions of some major hotel chains in the second and third quarters, which we will look to build on in the 4th quarter. In Europe, more customers are choosing to pay using Booking.com's payment platform when finalizing their booking As attractive and localized options are provided, this is a result in nearly a third of Booking.com's total gross bookings in Q3 being processed through our payment platform, which is up from about 22% for the full year 2020. The FinTech unit is also driving continued payments innovation to ensure that growth is sustained into the future. This includes offering low cost payout choices to our suppliers as well as partnering with third parties to provide payment solutions to our bookers, such as buy now, pay later. We believe these efforts help position booking.com as an attractive and trusted payment intermediary for all parties on our platform. Speaker 100:12:04On our Connected Trip vision, we've been focused this year on enabling travelers We continue to work on scaling up our robust flight platform on booking.com, which will give us the ability to engage with flight bookers early in their travel journey and allow us an opportunity to cross sell our accommodation And other services to these bookers. Booking dotcom's select product is now live in 27 countries. Total company air tickets in the 3rd quarter was up 131% versus Q3 2019, primarily driven by strength at Priceline, but also helped by Booking.com's Flight Bo offering, which continues to meaningfully exceed our expectations. While it remains early days for bookings flight product, we are seeing that over 25% of bookings flight bookers Our entirely new customers, with these new customers, we are seeing an encouraging attach rate of accommodation bookings. However, there is more work to be done to further optimize the cross sell opportunity. Speaker 100:13:14The yearly signals help demonstrate though that a flight offer We are beginning to test initiatives targeting these new flight customers, including, for example, encouraging account creation to activate Genius status and in some cases offering additional incentives for them to book accommodations. We remain focused on continuing to test and innovate In order to build on the early successes we are seeing with flights at booking.com, we're also continuing to run tests using offerings from our verticals like Now before closing, I do want to note that as world leaders assembled this week in Glasgow to work for the goal of carbon neutrality by 2,050. Decarbonization It's a major challenge for the entire industry and solving this challenge requires the commitment of all stakeholders. I am proud to say that our company, Booking Holdings, is committed to addressing this challenge. We recently released a report that we commissioned with Parthenon that looks into what will it take to get the economies of industry specifically to a carbon neutral future. Speaker 100:14:41Well, a big task. Data shows it is achievable. At Booking.com, we are working on making it easier for travelers to find and choose In addition, we're working with our accommodation supply partners by sharing guidance, insights and best practices To enhance sustainability initiatives at the property level, of course, there is much more that must be done, We believe that we are taking important steps to contribute to a more sustainable future for our industry. And finally, we plan on publishing a Booking Holdings climate transition plan in early 2022, which we'll speak more about At that time, in conclusion, we executed well and produced strong results in our peak travel season, which is a credit To the hard work and support provided by the many teams across our company, I'm encouraged by the signs of recovery we are seeing in many parts of the world And I'm confident that we are on the path to an eventual strong recovery in travel demand globally. We continue with our important work To strengthen our company's position and execute against our strategic priorities, as I've said before, we are thinking about our business beyond just getting back 2019 levels of demand, and we are focused on building a larger and faster growing business that generates more earnings after the full recovery and for the long run. Speaker 100:16:14I'll now turn the call over to our CFO, David Golden. David? David is dialing back in, I think. Speaker 200:16:36Yes, I'm back in, Glenn. Sorry, have you just finished? Yes, I just finished. All right, perfect timing. Thank you. Speaker 200:16:42I was cut off and I'm back in again. So Thank you, Glenn, and good afternoon. I'll review our results for the Q3 and provide some color on the trends we've seen so far in the 4th quarter To avoid the comparison to the pandemic impacted periods in 2020, all growth rates are relative to comparable periods in 2019 unless otherwise indicated. Information regarding reconciliation of non GAAP results to GAAP results can be found in our earnings release. Now on to our results for the Q3. Speaker 200:17:12On our last earnings call, we discussed the improvement in trends that we saw throughout the Q2 driven by the U. S. And Europe, followed by a modest pullback in July. After our earnings call, we saw our overall trends improve in August and continue to get better in September, which resulted in Q3 reported room nights Declining 18% versus Q3 2019, which was ahead of the 26% decline in Q2 and the 22% decline in July. September was the strongest month in the 3rd quarter with room nights declining 14%, about the same level as June. Speaker 200:17:49The improvements in the Q3 room night decline versus Q2 were driven primarily by Europe, which benefited from strong cross border travel within the region. In Q3, room nights in Europe were down mid single digits versus 2019 with room night trends improving in August versus July. September was similar to August. You will recall the room night growth pulled back from June to July in Europe Due to concerns over the Delta variance, rest of world also improved from Q2 to Q3. In the U. Speaker 200:18:24S, we Q2 to Q3, however, the U. S. Still had strong growth in the quarter and remained our strongest performing major country in Q3. Within the U. S, we saw a meaningful slowdown in August from the very strong growth we experienced in July, followed by a recovery to strong growth in September. Speaker 200:18:44The slowdown in the U. S. In August was due to concerns about the Delta variance. Asian room night declines in Q3 were about in line with Q2. Room nights in Asia was still down significantly from 2019 levels. Speaker 200:18:58Mobile bookings, primarily through our apps, Represented about 2 thirds of our total room nights. Our apps continue to represent an increasing percentage of our mobile bookings. In Q3, as Glenn mentioned, we achieved an important milestone in the use of our app at booking.com surpassing 100,000,000 monthly active users. We're also pleased to see the number of unique customers booking via our app in the quarter grow strongly compared with Q3 2019. Our direct channel as a percentage of our room nights year on year and relative to Q3 2019 increased. Speaker 200:19:35While international room nights remained down versus 2019, we saw another sequential improvement in our international trends with the international mix of our room nights increasing to about 33% in Q3 from about 25% in Q2 and about 15% in Q1. Most of this improvement in international room nights came from bookings for travel within Europe. We continue to see Double digit growth in domestic room nights in Q3 were at a slightly lower level than in Q2. The pickup in international travel in the quarter Was a driver of the improvements in overall room night trends from Q2 to Q3. However, international room nights We're down almost 50% compared with Q3 twenty nineteen levels. Speaker 200:20:23Our Q3 cancellation rate was slightly above Q3 2019 levels. However, cancellation rates improved in the quarter and September was slightly better In 2019 for the month, percentage of our Q3 2021 bookings made with flexible cancellation policies remained significantly higher The booking window of Booking.com remains shorter than it was in the Q3 of 2019 And contracted more than it did in Q2 as we saw a high mix of near term bookings during our peak summer season. All regions had a shorter booking window in Q3 than in Q3 2019. For our alternative accommodations, the global mix of room nights in Q3 of about 30% was up slightly from Q3 2019. The increase in mix of alternative accommodations in the quarter was less than it was in Q2 as we saw a greater sequential improvement in demand for Hello room nights in Europe from Q2 to Q3. Speaker 200:21:31Our alternative accommodation room nights in Europe grew slightly in August September versus 2019 And for the quarter, we're about in line with Q3 2019. We believe we benefited from the strength of our portfolio in Europe, where we can respond to solid demand for alternative accommodations and an improving demand for hotels. Gross bookings declined 6% in Q3, which is less than the decline in room nights due to the increase in average day rates for accommodations of about 10% versus 2019 on a constant currency basis and also due to a couple of points of benefit Changes in FX rates and strong performance in our flight business. Our accommodations constant currency ADR benefited by just over 5 percentage points for an increased mix of business in North America, which is a high ADR region and a decrease of mix in Asia, which is a low ADR region. Excluding regional mix effects, constant currency ADRs were up just over 4%, driven mainly by rate increases In Europe and North America across many destination types with notable strength in beach oriented leisure destinations. Speaker 200:22:48Airlines tickets booked in the 3rd quarter were up 131% versus 2019 driven by very strong growth Our price line and by flight bookings at booking.com. We're encouraged to see another quarter of triple digit growth from our flights business, which are key components of our multi product connected trip strategy. Consolidated revenue for the Q3 was $4,700,000,000 which was 7% below Q3 2019 and was more than double the amount of revenue in Q2 2021, A far greater sequential improvement than in 2019. Our Q3 revenue as a percentage of gross bookings was about in line With Q3 2019, which was in line with our expectations, we experienced even more revenue seasonality in Q3 2021 than normal Due to the concentration of stays in Q3 from bookings made in the quarter and also from bookings made in the quarter when customers could book accommodations The strong top line performance resulted in adjusted EBITDA of $2,100,000 in the 3rd quarter, which is 15% below Q3 2019. Marketing expense, which is a highly variable expense item, decreased 3% versus Q3 twenty nineteen. Speaker 200:24:12Marketing expense declined by Sales and other expenses in Q3 were significantly higher than they were in Q2 on a dollar basis due to higher volume of merchant gross bookings, which increased As a percentage of total gross bookings in the 3rd quarter, at Booking dotcom, the amount of gross bookings processed through our Sales platform in Q3 was over $6,000,000,000 which was almost 1 third of Booking.com's business, up from about a quarter in Q2. Our more fixed expense categories in Q3 in aggregate came in 3% lower than Q2, as the $136,000,000 Personnel expense in the 2nd quarter related to our decision to repay the government aid was mostly offset by an increase from Q2 to Q3 in our bonus accruals and digital service tax expense, both of which are accrue proportional to revenue. Our non GAAP EPS was $37.70 down 17% versus Q3 2019. Non GAAP net income of $1,600,000,000 Reflects a non GAAP tax rate of 21%, which is higher than the 19% in Q3 2019 due to a higher proportion of non tax deductible expenses in relation to lower pretax income versus 2019. On a GAAP basis, we had operating income of $2,000,000,000 in Q3. Speaker 200:25:45We recorded GAAP net income of $769,000,000 in the quarter, which includes A $1,000,000,000 pretax unrealized loss on our equity investments primarily related to our investment in Metuhan as well as income tax expense of $199,000,000 Now on to our cash and liquidity position. Our Q3 ending cash and investment balance of $15,400,000,000 was down Our Q2 ending balance of $16,100,000,000 after $1,500,000,000 of free cash flow was more than offset by the repayments $1,000,000,000 convertible note that maturing in Q3 and the $1,000,000,000 unrealized loss on our equity investments. The return of capital to shareholders has and will be an important component of our value creation strategy. Throughout the COVID pandemic, We said that we restart returning capital to shareholders when we saw that our 3 largest regions were no longer at meaningful risk of a major reversal due to COVID and have also become more predictable. Assuming the travel recovery continues, we plan to restart returning capital in early 2022 under our remaining authorization, assuming continued recovery, we'd expect to complete this authorization within 3 years from restarting. Speaker 200:27:00Now on to our thoughts for the Q4. October room nights declined 10% This is 2019, which is better than the 14% decline in September. The improvements in October was driven mainly by Asia, Although the region remains down considerably versus 2019, the improvement in Asia was led by domestic travel within many countries and was driven by improving vaccination progress and government's easy restrictions on travel. Room night growth in the U. S. Speaker 200:27:32Improved little from September to October And remained strong in October. Rest of World also improved little in October and was back close to 2019 levels. Room up declines in Europe were about the same in October as they were in September, but weakened towards the end of the month. This resulted in overall room night declines being higher in the last week of October than the average for the month. The slowdown at the end of October in Europe was driven by a number of countries that have seen recent increases in COVID infections including Germany, Russia and Italy. Speaker 200:28:08Given the ongoing uncertainty around COVID, it's difficult to predict how Rune Nights in November December will compare with the 10% Looking forward to November December, the rising case counts across many important Western European countries And across much of Eastern Europe as well as the start of the winter season in the Northern Hemisphere, which in 2020 contributed to an increase in COVID cases Create unpredictability. Also pre pandemic, the contribution of Asia to total room nights was highest in November December And Asia is still our least recovered region. On a more positive note, since the U. S. Announced in late September plans to ease travel restrictions in November International travelers who are vaccinated, we've seen a significant improvement in room nights booked by Europeans who traveled to the U. Speaker 200:28:59S. As well as a reverse. Also, we're pleased to see more gross bookings on the books for the Christmas New Year period than we saw at this time in 2019 in the U. S. And Western Europe. Speaker 200:29:12Turning to the income statement, we expect Q4 gross bookings to decline by a few points less than room nights, Driven by higher reported ADRs and flight bookings versus 2019, we expect less of an increase in our ADRs in Q4 than Q3, We expect Q4 revenue to decline more than gross bookings due to a couple of factors. The first is that due to the short booking window in Q3, A lower percentage of Q3 bookings than normal will stay in Q4. The second is due to our expectation that the booking window will contract less In Q4 than it did in Q3, resulting in more bookings made in the quarter that are expected to check-in, in future quarters. As a result, we expect our revenue as a percentage of gross bookings to be more than 1% below Q4 2019. This also means we expect Q4 revenue to have a greater sequential decrease from Q3 than we saw in 2019 and we expect Q4 revenue to decline more than it did in Q3. Speaker 200:30:27We expect Q4 marketing expense as a percentage of gross bookings increased slightly versus 2019 as we expect to invest in capturing demand and increasing awareness during the continued global recovery of travel demand. We expect Q4 sales and other expenses to be lower than we were in Q3 due to lower merchant transaction volumes. However, we expect sales and other expense in the 4th quarter to be higher than in Q4 2019 Due to higher merchant volumes and mix, we expect our more fixed expense categories in Q4 in aggregate to be down in line with Q3 on a dollar basis. We expect Q4 EBITDA to be positive, but driven largely by the higher but driven largely by the higher than normal seasonal decrease in revenue, We expect a much greater seasonal sequential decrease in EBITDA from Q3 to Q4 than normal. In conclusion, we are pleased with our recovery in the top line in Q3, which led to strong financial results for the quarter. Speaker 200:31:37The financial strength we saw in Q3 was helped by the concentration of stays in the quarter, which will lead to some differences in the comparison of Q4 to Q3 Relative to what we've seen in prior years, October room night trends improved relative to September driven by some encouraging trends in Asia. However, recently, the rising case counts across Europe increases the uncertainty about how trends will progress in November December. In closing, we're confident in our ability to capture demand as the global recovery continues and to execute against our strategic priorities. With that, I'll now take your questions. And Eli, I'll turn it over to you to open the line for questions. Operator00:32:18Thank you. Your first question is from the line of Justin Twist of Bank of America. Your line is now open. Speaker 300:32:45Great. Thank you for taking my questions. Great to see Europe recovering. With room nights down 10% versus 2019, Glenn, maybe you could go through what needs to happen from here to get above 2019? What areas still need to come back Sure. Speaker 300:33:02I imagine it's Asia, but your thoughts on that. And then David, maybe you could talk about core business margins versus 2019. Let's ignore payments and thank you, Tripp, for now, but how are you thinking of the puts and takes on the core business versus 2019? Thank you. Speaker 100:33:20Hi, Justin. So I don't think it's a very hard answer really what we need. What we need It's obviously more of a recovery against this pandemic because that's clearly what's driving the Problem in many industries are particularly. For us, we've talked about this a few times. We talked about Yes, our business has done well with international and international generally has been hard hit, albeit we are seeing some better things, But that's the long haul is still a problem. Speaker 100:33:53Yes, we're seeing some numbers coming up in Asia. Great. I love it. The fact that people are getting more vaccinated in Asia, That's great. The fact that vaccines are being distributed more broadly and getting around, that's great. Speaker 100:34:06The fact that the pharmaceutical companies are coming out with New ways to combat against this terrible virus with pills now that can help people who have caught it, but end up being hopefully healthier quicker, All good things, but what we need really is for everyone who can get a vaccine to please go out Get that vaccine, if you're medically able to and you're capable of getting it, please get that will help hasten the recovery for not only the travel industry, But the entire world, and that's what we hope will happen. Obviously, we're doing everything we can, so we're prepared when that day comes, which it will. We can't say when, but we know it will come. And we're preparing by doing all the things that David and I have been talking about, preparing with our partners And getting our marketing prepared and doing all the steps that you know we've been doing to make sure that when travel comes back to And David, do you want to answer you can answer the second question and answer mine too. Speaker 200:35:06Yes. Sure, Don. I won't add to yours, but I think that was great. Justin, we've actually been through this before, so I'll be relatively quick on the puts and takes In the core accommodation business, our underlying take rates have been solid And obviously, the reported take rates are a function of timing, so that continues to go well for us. As we get back to 2019 levels, there will be some On the personnel line, everybody knows there's a war for tech talent out there and we've had 2 or 3 years worth of merit increases and other Expenses in and other increases in our cost base, of course, we did take expenses out, but they're variable expenses. Speaker 200:35:46So they will come back with some Over time, there will be some pressure on the personnel line. But there are other things that are in the model that we can use to offset that pressure. We can get extra economies of scale as the business grows beyond 2019 levels on both the Fixed costs and on the variable cost side as well. There are opportunities in our direct mix, which of course is very important. And of course, a key element to this will be what happens to our overall ROIs on the performance marketing side, where we saw some increases in the first half of the year. Speaker 200:36:20We saw Some small compression in the second half of this year, but those markets are very variable and very dynamic and we're pleased with how we're doing in those markets. The last point I want to leave you with on that topic Is that within our core business, there's always a trade off between growth market share and profitability. So to the extent we see opportunities, we're leaning in. We want to try and drive market share increases where we think that we can. That will pressure the business in the short term as we lean into making Investments and also the investment in marketing and other areas will basically be a leading indicator relative to revenue. Speaker 200:36:56So There will and we do believe that there are opportunities for us to gain share in accommodations through this recovery and beyond. So that would be an additional factor in the mix and how we think about the long term business margins in accommodations. Speaker 300:37:10Great. Thank you. Operator00:37:15Your next question is from Kevin Kopelman of Cowen and Company. Your line is now open. Speaker 300:37:23Great. Thanks so much. Hoping to dig into ad spend trends a little bit. So spend is going up a little. How much of that is booking getting more aggressive as demand picks up versus a more competitive overall ad environment? Speaker 300:37:38And then Compared to 2019, has the distribution in brand and performance changed meaningfully? And lastly, Can you give us an update on the kind of merchandising and promotion, some of the merchandising and promotion tests that you've done over the past couple of quarters? Thanks. Speaker 100:37:57So David, why don't you take the first two about the ad competitiveness and I think some brand Question and I will talk a little bit about some of the merchandising. Speaker 200:38:07Exactly. Thank you, Glenn. Let's do that. So, Ken, if you remember, we Speaker 100:38:13On the Speaker 200:38:13last call, we said that we expect to see some reduction in ROIs in Q3 versus 2019. And actually, the ROIs came out Very much where we expect them to. Actually, our direct mix was slightly better than we expected in Q3, and that's why there was less of a compression In the difference between gross bookings and marketing that we actually expected in Q3. So that's positive. It was really Something that we I'd say that was more what we did because we expected that to be the outcome. Speaker 200:38:44Of course, these markets are dynamic and as recovery continues, more and more players will come back into marketplace, but basically what happened in Q3 was very much in line with what we told you a quarter ago would happen. The mix in between brands and the performance has not materially changed. If you recall, back in 2019, We were over 90% or around 90% of our marketing spend was in performance marketing. We are looking to Move up to move the brand spend up a little bit over time, but of course brand has been very much shut down in 2020. It's now coming back on In 2021, so we're not in a very different position than where we were in 2019, but we do see the opportunity to continue to trend a little bit more Towards brands, some of which might go on at the mid funnel market opportunities that Glenn talked about. Speaker 200:39:37And then Glenn, I'll hand over to you to talk about the third one. Speaker 100:39:41Yes. So Kevin, obviously, merchandising is very important. The reason why we built out and are continuing to build out our payments platform@booking.com is making sure that we're able to compete and provide great value to our And what's really important is not doing just out of our own pocket, but working with our partners, coming up with the right time to the right consumer, the right offer and helping them, Our supply partners also provide some of that, let's say, added value. So for example, we may do flash sales. You may hope you've seen some, hope I hope you actually booked some of them. Speaker 100:40:16That's an example. What are things, for example, when somebody is getting an accommodation and we're able to offer them either lower cost Even free sometimes rides from the airport to the hotel. And there are all different variations that we can do with the different verticals In coming up with the best combination, trying to do as much as we can with our suppliers' money, but sometimes using our own too to come up with really is an attractive offer, So the consumer knows that when they come to our site, they're getting the best value because value really is one of the key strategic objectives for us, always providing that. Speaker 300:40:53Thanks, Glenn. Thanks, David. Really helpful. Operator00:40:58Your next question is from Deepak Mathivanan from Wolfe Research. Your line is now open. Speaker 400:41:06Thanks. This is Zach on for Deepak. Thanks for taking the questions. First on pent up demand, obviously, it's been a nice tailwind for your business over and just general travel demand over the last few quarters. Just curious how you're thinking about whether there's another leg to run on the level of pent up demand. Speaker 400:41:23Asia is still kind of depressed as you noted and Cross border restrictions are kind of easing. So as we look into next year, how are you guys thinking about the level of pent up demand? And then second, When we kind of dig a little further into the current trends, is there any kind of reversal in terms of urban versus suburban or shorter versus longer Speaker 100:41:46Zack, so just to make sure I understood your first part of your question, you're just asking a little bit about how we're going to Get the demand that's coming in the future. Do I have that correct? Speaker 400:41:56Just, I guess, like understanding whether level of pent up demand that you guys Kind of expecting as we move into next year, given there's still current travel restrictions, especially on the cross border side, Asia Pacific remains depressed. So as we look into next year, we see another kind of boost Speaker 100:42:13your headwind? I got it. Okay. While I do that first half and then I'll let David say whatever what we feel we can Disclosed regarding any of the trends, regarding different parts of the business. So we absolutely know there's huge pent up demand because anytime any government let's go restriction, we see immediate Demand. Speaker 100:42:38So for example, the announcement of the November 8 opening for people to come to the U. S, immediately we saw demand. In the U. K, when they changed restriction, immediate demand. So we know it's there, absolutely. Speaker 100:42:54Now how much? We don't have a way Quantify it, but we do know if you look at, particularly in the U. S, when you look at what people's savings rates are right now, We have been able to save a lot of money during this pandemic and they want to spend it. And one of the things people have not been able to do as much as they want to is go travel. So I believe there is a significant amount of demand there just waiting to come out. Speaker 100:43:18But of course, it has to we have to have these restrictions for the long haul International travel will open up, and we also we know that it's important that we always provide the best value so that when they do travel, they come to us. And Dave, I don't know what you can say about suburban, local, far, what you can say. Speaker 200:43:38Yes. Zach, Q3 saw a strong recovery across the geographies that we talked about. So I'd say that there's still a bias towards a more leisure outdoor oriented activity, particularly beach Warranty properties did very well in the summer months in the Northern Hemisphere, but we do see some recovery into the cities as well. I mean, I think this we all know anecdotally, if you want to Hotel room 9 in a city, it's becoming increasingly hard. So we are seeing recovery across the board, although still more oriented towards the Outdoor Beach, Forage and Leisure Locations. Speaker 400:44:19Great. Thank you. Operator00:44:25All right. Your next question is from Mark Mahoney of Evercore ISI. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:44:32Thanks. Three quick ones, please. Any impact at all from IDFA? Secondly, those 100,000,000 Mobile app MAUs, do you have enough history to know if those are if they act Materially different? Are they more or less profitable? Speaker 500:44:48Are they more or less loyal than more or less likely to convert than the users that you had And then 3rd, please, the rolling out of the Air Products to more markets, you have it in 21 markets, you rolled out some good statistics here about how 25% of And there was something you said about add on sales, if you could just repeat what that was. But it all sounds like that's a really good product addition. So I guess the action question is, How long will it take you to roll it out fully across all markets given how positive it's been so far? Speaker 100:45:21Thanks, Mark. Why don't I take let me do the Ericsson question first, then I'll talk a little bit about IDFA, and I'll let David what he wants to say about Our app and I'm not sure how I'll let him be as free as he wants to be or not about what we see in terms of profitability, etcetera. So you're absolutely right about the Air business, very exciting for us, of course, and we've been working on it. And it's interesting because I happen to have noticed that In the Q1 call, in 2020, just as things started going very bad for the whole world, We're talking about the just starting out in the air business at booking.com in the Q4 2019. And I mentioned about we're I'm trying to get to that 50% coverage of Booking.com customers. Speaker 100:46:08I was looking forward to hopefully doing that for 2020. And of course, that didn't quite happen exactly what we wanted, but the question and it wasn't from you, Mark, who is another analyst who asked about why not 100%. And I said, well, the 50% was just we want to get to that year, I was hoping, of course, we want to get to 100%. And that still is the same thing. Yes, we're 27 countries. Speaker 100:46:28Of course, we want to get to every single country to anybody we currently deal with. We want to be able to provide them with an air ticket, But it takes time. It's not something you just flip a switch. You have to actually go through regulations to get licensing and all sorts of things. So we're rolling it out as we can, as we should, and we will get to 100% at some point. Speaker 100:46:48Now I do want to point out that we are at that over that 50% Number right now. So I am pleased with where we are with that. I also want to say though, it's still so early. We're not doing big marketing yet, real big marketing. There are a lot of opportunities to get a much higher number of people coming to this Era product. Speaker 100:47:05And the reason that we like is not only the 25% of new customers, which of course is fantastic, But it is that attachment rate, which I haven't given a number, but I'm pleased with where we are with that right now. And again, that's something we have not optimized There's a lot of opportunity there to optimize that and get an even higher attach rate. And that's part of the overall vision Of being able to bring new customers in from different verticals, different ways than we've done in the past, which was primarily pay for performance marketing NPL are bringing a lot more customer and as we talked a little bit earlier in a previous answer about being able to provide them with a lot more value. Your first question about IDFA, look, these privacy related changes, they only impact a small part of our marketing. And it's obviously not unique to our company. Speaker 100:47:54We know that. I'm very confident we can manage through this. And as we know, as you know, most of our marketing Primarily, it's paid marketing channels like PPC and Meta, and that's not going to be directly impacted by any of these kinds of changes. Our focus is always on 1st party data. We want to leverage the data in the marketing. Speaker 100:48:13And any of these changes to privacy like Yes, I think this does not really impact us. And I think you would know, we chose not Since then, so I really don't think this is a big deal for us. I'm very proud of the team in our whole marketing. They will be able to work and come up with, I would say privacy oriented ways to continue to be able to market with good tracking and ROIs. And David, I think you had number 2, which was about the monthly active users through mobile. Speaker 200:48:54Yes, I've got number 2. And Mark, what I can tell you is we kind of watch very carefully How are different types of direct users respond? And obviously, the more direct we can get, the better and the more those direct And there are 3 types of direct customers. The direct customers using the app, the direct customers that come to On the mobile web, there are customers who come to us on desktop. And perhaps not too surprisingly, the direct customers on the app measured by the metric I just Talked about our most loyal cohort of direct customers. Speaker 200:49:30So it's a good thing. We want to get more of them there. And A lot of our marketing that we do these agencies oriented, actually getting people to download and use the app because it's sticky. Speaker 500:49:42Thank you, Glenn. Thank you, David. Operator00:49:47Next, we have Eric Sheridan from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Speaker 600:49:53Thanks so much for taking the question. I want to come back to the comments you talked about a little bit earlier around the dynamics around hotel room night growth With traditional hotel supply room night growth versus alternative accommodations, curious what your view is on how the landscape on both the supply and the demand side Might evolve as we move into a post pandemic world and aim towards summer of 2022 and how you think about making investments on supply to match up the way in which there might be a more normalized travel environment in 2022. Thanks so much. Speaker 100:50:26Thank you. I'll give my first comments, I'll let David can always add if you'd like. So we saw before the pandemic an increase in the alternative accommodations business So it became a larger and larger share of the total accommodations business and it was going on a pretty steady rate going up. And dynamic happens And you get a step change as people desire safety, being away from crowds and they go there. And now we've seen for ourselves, we've seen I think the long term trend though will continue. Speaker 100:50:59And I think if you look 5 years in the future, I think alternative accommodations will be a higher share. That means, of course, for us, as we've talked about this in the past, how important it is that we go out and make sure we get the best supply we can get. And that means working hard on that and making sure that the people who own these properties see us as a platform that they want to use It's first in their mind that this is a great way to fill up their properties, and that's something we are working on absolutely. The demand side is similar. Go to Europe, and we've talked about them in the past, and said, where can I get a villa? Speaker 100:51:31In the south of France, people will say, I think booking.com is a great place. He went to The U. S, and we said, hey, I need a vacation place to ski, they may not think of Booking dot com first. We got to get that awareness up, and I've talked about that in the past, That's what we have to do also. But one of the truly great things about Booking.com is we offer more of both. Speaker 100:51:51Nobody offers you put together hotels And alternative accommodations, to put that together, we're the ones who have both of those. And I really believe that's a superior way for somebody to decide What they're going to choose in terms of accommodation, and we see this in our data. We see people come, they look first start looking at one type and then they end up booking another type. And they're able to compare and contrast both of them, see the reviews on both, look at the prices on both. What are they going to get from 1? Speaker 100:52:19What are they going to get from the other? That's why we believe we have a superior offering to the consumer. And, I do believe though that is something that absolutely is going to continue. But on the other side, You all see the hotels, they're making some moves themselves and they're coming up with ways to offer a better offering providing Some of the benefits of an alternative accommodation to a consumer, particularly so they are prepared as people work in a new way in the future and want to have Both the benefits of the hotel, but perhaps more room or more services that you can get in terms of making sure you have good Wi Fi or a place you can do your work at. And that's something I see also. Speaker 100:52:57Hotels are definitely going to be getting into that space. David, I don't know if you want to say anything more to that. Speaker 200:53:02I think that's good to it. I'll just point out that To your point that, that strength and that balance in both clearly contributed to us having a strong Q3 because we saw the strong demand in alternative continue, then we saw Sequentially, a much bigger increase from Q222 to Q3 in hotels that we could offer both. Speaker 600:53:20Thanks so much for the color. Operator00:53:26All right. Next we have Stephen Ju of Credit Suisse. Your line is now open. Speaker 700:53:31Okay. Thank you so much. So Glenn, I think in the past we've talked about your payments product helping to expand your TAM by So onboarding those users who may not necessarily be using credit cards and instead online payment services. Given the overall, I guess, State of travel in Asia, maybe much of that value unlock is still in front of us, but are you seeing evidence in other regions of the world That this is helping to bring in that incremental user. And also, just the rising ability for you guys to merchandise as you Due more the connected trip opens up a greater opportunity for you guys to run promos and change prices and hence flex your gross margins up and down to drive There's still a pretty material gap in ROI from doing one versus the other at this point in terms of what you perceive. Speaker 100:54:30So I'll talk about the first one about our payments. I'll let Dave talk about ROIs on our merchandising approach and how we're doing that. So you're absolutely right. If somebody doesn't have the ability to pay for something because they don't have the appropriate payment method, then they're not going to be able to buy from that Person and or that company like us, so we always have to do that. So if you are in Southeast Asia and let's say somebody is using most, let's say Grab, who's a partner of ours And they're using GrabPay. Speaker 100:54:57Well, if we're not able to use GrabPay for the hotel taking the money in from the consumer, that person is not going to use us, they're going to use somebody else. We have I see Grant Paine, our partner working on that. Or if you look at it other ways, people who say they go and look, it's not their favorite, they could use it another way, They still decide not to use up. There's something else we've seen, which is really interesting, is that just having more ways to accept payments Seems to increase conversion sometimes. I don't know why. Speaker 100:55:26I can't give you a science. I just need data. This is it. That's interesting. The other side is making sure we're Paying the supplier the way they want to get the money because sometimes they say, I don't want to get it the way you're doing it with a virtual credit card Well, I don't want to get it in terms of a bank transfer. Speaker 100:55:43I want to get it some other way. So we've got to be able to do that, and that improves our relationship with the It particularly improves with the supplier when the method that we can get the money to them is cheaper than the method they are currently using. That's a great thing. When we can do that, there's another value add to that hotel or any other type of supplier. Lots of ways that we're going to do that and there are all other things The FinTech part of our business that we're just starting out, we talked last time about setting up that unit. Speaker 100:56:11There are a lot of opportunities there. We talked about how in 2019, we did over $100,000,000,000 worth of gross bookings. And our idea is to let's Find ways that we can monetize that better and let's find ways we can provide value to both consumers and suppliers. David, I don't know if you want to talk a little about ROIs and how we're doing the merchandise. Speaker 200:56:33Sure. So as Glenn said, Payments is increasingly becoming part of the core value proposition that we offer at Booking.com in particular to both customers and partners. So it's no longer just kind of, I mean, we think of as an add on, it really is solving problems for both of them in cost effective ways and risk reduction ways They couldn't do as efficiently themselves. So that's why it's growing so rapidly as a percentage of our mix. Now you're right, Stephen, that once we're on payments, we can Participate in merchandising, of course, the most efficient way to get rates is to source great rates, which Glenn talked about a fair amount in his comments. Speaker 200:57:12But if we need to participate over and above the sourcing and driving Driving promotional targeting, particularly using in particular markets, we can with the payments platform. And we now have enough Experience on rug bells, enough instrumentation around that, that we can treat that, as you mentioned, as a marketing investment and look at it in a very similar way To the way that we look at our spend in the performance channels, for example, compare ROIs one versus the other and decide what the right mix is. So correct, with payments becoming a bigger piece of our proposition, where we can, where we need to, where we think it makes sense, we can look at merchandising through A strong ROI lens, we can be quite proactive in that area and compare it directly with other forms of spending on marketing. Operator00:58:01Thank you. Next, we have Doug Anmuth of JPMorgan. Your line is now open. Speaker 700:58:13Thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted Speaker 600:58:16to ask about Social advertising, I know the dollars there are still small, but just curious what gives you the confidence in that working The point of potentially adding some real dollars there, it's an area you've tried before, so just curious kind of what's different now. And then secondly, David, if you could just walk through those 4Q sequential revenue dynamics again and if there's something that's particularly different as opposed to just the normal seasonality? Thanks. Speaker 100:58:46Hi, Doug. So, yes, so Absolutely small numbers right now. And I think I said that in my prepared remarks. These are small, small numbers right now. But obviously, there are a huge number of potential customers who are in those areas where we want to reach out, make sure they're aware of us and they're coming to us. Speaker 100:59:06So it's a place that we're not going to ignore. Now we obviously have to come up with the right method, the right way to present our offerings, the way we're going to present our brand And be able to get them to come to us. And that means we've got to be able to measure, are we getting a good return or not? And I don't want to give too much in terms of details how we're doing, what we're I'm feeling good about how we're building it up. And if we see the right returns, the right ROIs because we are always very conscious of spending that advertising money the right way, Then we will scale up and spend more money. Speaker 100:59:36And that's what I said in the prepared remarks. I feel good about where we are now because the great thing about our business, our Company, the way we think is we're not dogmatic. We don't think just because we thought it at first this would be great, but then we absolutely are going to do it. We're going to do it, experiment, Put money to work, see the results, test and then we'll learn. And if it's great, we're going to put more money. Speaker 100:59:57If not, we'll come up with another way. That's how we built this company. That's what we'll do in the future. And David, I think there was a question for you there. Speaker 201:00:06Yes. Doug, let me explain that So I'll re explain that whole seasonality thing because this is quite important and we can explain it at a kind of high level. So Q3 was very strong. It was almost artificially strong from a revenue point of view because you got 2 things unnaturally healthy. First of all, remember, A lot of bookings in Q1, Q2 that would have normally stayed in Q1, Q2 stayed in Q3. Speaker 201:00:28So we got that benefit compared to a normal Q3. On top of that, In the quarter, more bookings in Q3 than normal stayed in Q3. So because the booking window was so short, So Q3 got topped up 2 ways from Q1, Q2 and in Q3. So now when you think of Q4 You are now comparing it against a very top up Q3 and some of that top up in Q3 directly impacts Q4. So Q4 gets impacted by It's a strong Q3, but think some of those Q3 bookings that normally would stay in Q4 stay in Q3. Speaker 201:01:03So you've now got, if you like, A double factor driving the comparison between Q3 and Q4. Also, we believe the booking window will start And in Q4, so more of the bookings in Q4 will actually leak out of Q4 than did in Q3 relatively. So you've got these two factors kind of driving A very unusual comparison between Q3 and Q4. So a fair amount more sequential revenue declines, all timing and all mechanics, Think of it as a Q4 comparing to Q3 on steroids. And some of the reason why Q3 was on steroids will directly impact Q4. Speaker 201:01:38So that's what's going on. Speaker 601:01:41Got it. Very helpful. Thanks for the clarity there. Operator01:01:47And that concludes the Q and A session. I will now turn the call back to Glenn Fogo for closing remarks. Speaker 101:01:54Thank you. So in closing, I want to repeat what I said at the close of last quarter's earnings call and reiterate our strong belief that our industry's Full recovery will be hastened by everyone who can get a vaccine going out and getting it. We urge all people who are approved for and medically able to be Go get one. And as always, I want to thank our partners, our customers, our dedicated employees And our shareholders, we appreciate your support as we continue to build on the long term vision for our company. Operator01:02:41This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by