Linda Rendle
Chief Executive Officer at Clorox
Sure, Kevin. Thanks for the question. So maybe we start with your private label share question and talk a little bit about what we're seeing there, and we can get into the broader piece around what does that mean and what are we seeing more broadly in trade down. So as we've spoken about before, the dynamics as you look at any time period in scanner data right now, it's difficult to parse out because you have many factors depending on the category: normalization; the timing of pricing which you already hit on, which is exactly right; supply normalization, etc. So I would caution that looking at any small portion of time to get to a conclusion one way or the other, you have to get to a bit of the nuances.
As it relates to private label in our categories, a good portion of that is the timing gap in pricing. So we've seen private label go a little faster in some of our categories. You called that out, and it's true in trash and bleach in particular. In wipes, it is more about normalization. And so wipes in that time period for Q4, private label grew five share points, we grew six. So it's not coming from us. And if you look at Charcoal, another example where there's a different nuance, we grew share all outlets as consumers move to some channels and bought some larger sizes even then we were down slightly in LouLou. So I think, again, it just speaks to the dynamic nature of what we're experiencing right now.
And you're right, as we return our price gaps to more normalized levels, which we continue to expect, and as we implement our July price increase that is in market now, and again, as a reminder, it's our largest price increase, we do expect to be back to more normalized price gaps. And you'll start to see that flow through in share. Right now, we have very strong volume shares, for example, and we expect that to translate to dollar share as that flows through. And then your larger question on trade down. We are not seeing any significant trade down as it relates to trading into private label, given the dynamics I just covered, I think that's clear that there's some other things going on there.
But we are seeing some trade down within our own portfolio, for example, and we would have anticipated and expected this, and we're working this as part of our sales plan. So for example, we're seeing consumers move to some opening price points. They still want the branded player, but they are -- don't have a lot of out-of-pocket and so they are buying a smaller size. We're also seeing consumers trade up to larger sizes to get the very best price per ounce. And we're working with retailers to ensure our assortment is right to capture that. We've seen that in other times of inflation and recession. And so we've been proactive about addressing that with our retailer partners to ensure that we have the right distribution. And of course, as you know, we are widely distributed across all channels who are ready as consumers move and ensure that they have the right level of value. So at this moment, what I would say is we are seeing some change in consumer behavior.
It's largely what we would anticipate we are not seeing a big change into private label at this moment. But again, we're focusing on the things that we can control here, ensuring our innovation program continues to activate in the market. We continue to spend on our brands. We'll spend 10% of sales on advertising and sales promotion next year, and we're proactively working with our retailers on tailored shopper plans to ensure that we're offering the right value for the moment depending on where the consumer is. And it's something, again, we'll watch very closely and we'll adjust our plans as needed if it starts to go in a different direction.