Whirlpool Q3 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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October 21, 2022

There are 10 speakers on the call.

Operator

Thank you, and welcome to our Q3 conference call. Joining me today are Mark Bitzer, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Jim Peters, our Chief Financial Officer and Joe Liatini, our Chief Operating Officer. Our remarks today on track with a presentation available on the Investors section of our website at whirlpoolcorp.com. Before we begin, I want to remind you that we conduct this call, we'll be making forward looking statements to assist you in better understanding Whirlpool Corporation's future expectations. Our actual results could differ materially from these statements due to many factors discussed in our latest 10 ks, 10 Q and other periodic reports.

Operator

We also want to remind you that today's presentation includes non GAAP measures. We believe these measures are important indicators of our operations as they include items that may not be indicative of results from our ongoing business operations. We also think the adjusted measures will provide you with a better baseline for analyzing trends in our ongoing business operations. Listeners are directed to the supplemental information package posted on the Investor Relations section of our website for the reconciliation of non GAAP items to the most directly comparable GAAP measures. We have also provided additional information related to inventory, demand and fixed costs that will not be regularly provided or updated in future quarterly earning materials.

Operator

At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Following our prepared remarks, the call will be open for analyst questions. As a reminder, we ask that participants ask no more than 2 questions. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Mark. Thanks, Corey, and welcome, everyone, to our Q3 earnings call.

Operator

As you

Speaker 1

can see from our agenda on Slide 4, we plan to discuss today more than just our Q3 results. We are operating in unprecedented times, and we do feel it is necessary and helpful for investors to broaden the time horizon of today's call beyond Q3 and take a step back to reinforce our long term strategy as well as our perspective on favorable mid- and long term consumer demand trends. In the first agenda item, we will discuss the Q3 results in detail. You will see that short term consumer sentiment and consumer demand are clearly reflective of a recessionary environment. While at the same time, input costs, which you would expect to come down in a recessionary environment, are still elevated.

Speaker 1

Needless to say that this combination impacted our Q3 negatively. And the second event item, we will show you that Volkow has a strong track record of successfully managing crude recycles. Who are laser focused on ensuring we have the strongest business irrespective of the rapid changes in the macro environment. We

Speaker 2

have and we

Speaker 1

will continue to take action early and decisively, and we have done so again this quarter. Beyond the current recessionary challenges, strongly believe in the favorable mid- and long term demand tailwinds, in particular in North America. And our business is very well positioned to win in its attractive post recession setup. We will cover this in the 3rd agenda item. And finally, in the 4th agenda item, I will provide an update on our portfolio transformation, which is well underway as we continue to move towards a high growth, high margin business.

Speaker 1

But first, I'll turn it over to Joe to review our Q3 results in more detail.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Mark. Turning to Slide 5. Our performance this quarter was impacted by significant industry declines and elevated cost inflation that is now leveling off. In key countries Across the globe, we saw double digit demand declines. In response, we aggressively reduced our inventories by $300,000,000 compared to the 2nd quarter with a 35% reduction in global production.

Speaker 3

Needless to say that this volume deleveraging impacted our Q3 results negatively. We do consider our inventories to now be very well balanced. We delivered ongoing EPS of $4.49 an ongoing EBIT margin of 5.5 percent with approximately 10% EBIT margins in North America. While these results are below our expectations, we remain confident and we have the right strategy and actions in place and are well positioned to deliver strong performance and shareholder returns. Now turning to Slide 6, I will give more context on the magnitude of the industry decline by country.

Speaker 3

Across our key marketplaces, We faced market contractions of 10% to 25% during the quarter and expect similar declines in most countries as we move through the Q4. In the U. S. And throughout the world, consumer sentiment has been impacted by inflation and increasing interest rates and the ongoing war in Ukraine and weakening currencies have further weighed on demand. Turning to Slide 7, you will see the impact of proactive steps taken to reduce inventories.

Speaker 3

We lowered our inventory by $300,000,000 from Q2 levels despite the significantly reduced shipment volumes within the quarter. In total, we reduced production volumes 35% in the quarter. To put this in context, this is pretty much the same level of production as Q2 2020 when we were faced with global COVID shutdowns. Even though painful within the quarter, we are now much better positioned to manage near term demand fluctuations. Turning to Slide 8, in addition to managing our inventories In response to industry decline, we are also experiencing elevated and persistent levels of inflation.

Speaker 3

Over the last 2 years, we've absorbed $2,700,000,000 of inflation across our entire value chain, thus increasing our cost of goods sold by well over 10%. We experienced increases in raw materials, freight and logistics costs and more recently energy costs. Aligning inventories with softer market demand was also a factor contributing to our performance. As expected, inflation peaked in the quarter and will remain elevated. We do expect cost inflation to persist throughout the first half of twenty twenty three and costs moderating in the second half of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3

Despite historically high inflation and market headwinds Across the globe, Whirlpool remains well positioned to capitalize when the macroeconomic environment normalizes. Turning to Slide 9, we show the drivers of our 3rd quarter EBIT margin. We continue to deliver strong price mix of 550 basis points with previously announced cost based price increases and slightly increased promotional activities that will continue into the Q4. We responded to accelerated industry declines and we are prepared for the upcoming holiday season. While we successfully reduced inventory, The associated volume deleveraging alongside continued elevated logistics and energy costs drove a 3 25 basis point impact in net cost.

Speaker 3

Raw material inflation was as expected and negatively impacted margins by 7.50 basis points and we began to see cost actions gaining traction with reduced marketing and technology spending, which was more than offset by the impact of foreign currency as the U. S. Dollar strengthened during the quarter. Overall, we delivered an ongoing EBIT margin of 5.5%. Turning to Slide 10, I'll review results for our North American region.

Speaker 3

As we continue to optimize our supply network, Improving availability, we saw slight sequential share gains in the quarter. However, our revenues were down 8% driven by weaker demand. We did aggressively reduce production levels to rebalance our inventory levels. This temporary volume deleveraging and related operating inefficiencies in addition to continued inflationary pressures negatively impacted our margins for the quarter. Even with these challenges, the region delivered approximately 10% margins.

Speaker 3

Looking forward, we are excited about the unique opportunity to add In SyncErator to our portfolio of leading brands and expect the transaction to close on October 31. And this acquisition is a clear accelerator of our ongoing portfolio transformation in delivering on our commitment of investing in high growth, high margin businesses. We continue to remain confident in the strength of our North American business. Turning to Slide 11, I'll review results for our Europe, Middle East and Africa region. As part of our portfolio transformation, we completed the sale of our Whirlpool Russia business on August 31.

Speaker 3

Revenue was negatively impacted by 11 points of foreign currency. Excluding Russia and the impact of foreign currency, revenue was down approximately 8%. The region's cost based pricing actions were more than offset by lower volumes and cost inflation as consumer sentiment continues to be impacted by the war in Ukraine and inflation resulting in a negative EBIT margin of 3.1%. Mark will provide update on the strategic review of our EMEA business later in the call. Turning to Slide 12, I'll review results for our Latin America region.

Speaker 3

The region saw significant demand declines and continued inflation more than offsetting our cost based pricing and cost actions. Despite these negative impacts, the region delivered more than 5% EBIT. Turning to Slide 13, I'll review results for our Asia region. Excluding the impact of currency, revenue declined 1% and cost based pricing actions were more than offset by inflation, ultimately leading to an EBIT margin of slightly below 5%. Now I'll turn it over to Jim to discuss our full year 2022 guidance.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Joe. Now turning to Slide 14, I'll review our updated guidance for 2022. We expect to deliver 4th quarter EBIT similar to Q3. As a result, we have revised our full year ongoing EPS guidance to approximately $19 We have reduced industry expectations for all regions except Asia, reflecting the continuation of trends during the quarter. We now expect a revenue contraction of approximately 9% and ongoing EBIT margin of approximately 7.25 percent for the year with North America margins of 12% plus for the full year.

Speaker 4

And we expect to generate free cash flow of approximately $950,000,000 or around 4.75 percent of net sales. While we have revised our guidance to reflect the current macro environment and expect many of these trends to continue through mid-twenty 23, We remain committed to our long term goals to drive profitable growth of 5% to 6%, ongoing EBIT margin expansion of 11% to 12% and cash conversion of 7% to 8% free cash flow. Turning to Slide 15, we will discuss the drivers of our 2022 free cash We now expect to generate free cash flow of approximately $950,000,000 compared to our previous guidance of $1,250,000,000 With cash earnings of approximately $1,600,000,000 we expect to continue to invest in our products and fund organic growth by unlocking capacity constraints and launching innovative products. These investments are in line with our target for capital expenditures of approximately 3% of net sales. Additionally, We lowered our working capital expectations, reflecting the previously discussed inventory reduction actions.

Speaker 4

Lastly, Our expectation remains unchanged as we anticipate minimal cash outlays related to restructuring as these actions have been largely completed. Now I'll turn it over to Mark to provide our perspective beyond 2022. Thanks, Jim. I want to spend a bit of time to demonstrate our strong track record of successfully operating through various economic cycles.

Speaker 1

Turning to Slide 17, you see that when faced with inflation across the board for Materials and Logistics and Energy, who have responded early and decisively with cost based pricing actions. Our strong execution of 7 cost based pricing actions and smart value creating promotion activity has driven positive pricemix in nearly every quarter since 2019. With broad based, cost based pricing actions across the globe in nearly every Product Category and Channel, we have delivered a cumulative pricemix impact of 13%. Turning to Slide 18, I will discuss our significantly reduced fixed cost base. This chart shows the total of our SG and A, factory and logistic costs over the past 6 years.

Speaker 1

Despite the inflation which we also experienced in parts of our fixed costs such as logistics or salaries, who have been able to reduce the fixed cost by approximately $700,000,000 or around 3% net reduction every year. In response to the current macroeconomic challenges, we have initiated another $500,000,000 cost takeout program that will further reduce our fixed in variable costs in 2023. As a result of these actions, we have drastically reduced our breakeven point, which should benefit us once industry volumes recover from a current temporary weakness. It's an important step in structurally improving our long term margins. As mentioned before, Whirlpool has a history of proactively responding to challenges we are facing, in particular during these past years.

Speaker 1

And we've been hugely successful and managing through the headwinds of the past years as evidenced by our financial results as shown on Slide 19. Our multiyear financial performance shows our to improve business with expanding EBIT margins, significant EPS growth and strong ROIC. Our ongoing EBIT margin has improved with a compound annual growth rate over 4% and our ongoing earnings per share with a compound annual growth rate of approximately 13%. Alongside strong returns on invested capital with a 6 point improvement since 2010. Now turning to Slide 21, I want to address we are well positioned to benefit from long term demand tailwinds.

Speaker 1

While we are experiencing short term demand softness, who are at the same time very optimistic about the mid- and long term demand trends, in particular in North America. Let me start by giving you a more detailed perspective on the U. S. Appliance demand. As discussed in previous earnings calls, it has 2 fundamental components: replacement demand, which currently represents 55% of our total market and the discretionary demand.

Speaker 1

With the trough of a 2 0 8 to 20 11 replacement cycle now behind us, replacement demand has been very stable and even growing. And we do expect further momentum on the replacement side of the demand due to a significantly increased appliance usage over past years, as evidenced in the data which we see from our connected appliances. What has still not fully recovered from a great recession in 2 0 8 is the discretionary demand side, which ultimately is driven by the housing market. Moving to Slide 22. You can clearly see the strong connection between existing home sales and overall appliance demand.

Speaker 1

Existing home sales were slowly recovering from a great recession but still haven't reached pre recession levels. At the same time, over appliance demand is also slowly recovering to essentially pre recession levels. Turning to Slide 23, we show the same data in a bit of a more granular view as well as our prediction over the next 2 years. Obviously, existing homes have declined sharp in 2022, reflecting the mortgage rate shock, keeping both new buyers away from the market as well as keeping prospective if sellers are selling due to existing fixed mortgage rates, which are significantly lower than current mortgage rates. However, that doesn't change the fact that there's compounded pent up demand from millennials as they reach prime homebuying years.

Speaker 1

We do expect home price appreciation to slow down and housing inventory to slowly improve to more historic levels. And ultimately, existing home sales returning back to historical averages of above 6,000,000 units per year. Now turning to Slide 24, I will share my perspective on new housing in the U. S. And its impact on Whirlpool.

Speaker 1

New housing contributes approximately 15% of appliance demand in the U. S. New housing construction has significantly lagged historical average for more than a decade. For perspective, consider this. From 1968 to 2 0.8, a 4th year span, It was only 1 year in which fewer than 1,200,000 new housing units were built.

Speaker 1

But much of a period between 2010 2017 was below this level, leading to the oldest U. S. Housing stock in the country's history. In total, we estimate an undersupply of housing of approximately 3 4,000,000 units. While we do not expect new housing to reach what we call steady state supply of 1,700,000 to 1,900,000 units In 2022 or 2023, we do expect 2024 to show meaningful progress towards this level.

Speaker 1

Turning to Slide 25, I will share some perspective of our major appliance business outside of the U. S. We expect to win the Americas and accelerate our growth in India. India, in particular, has a very long runway for growth due to favorable demographics and a still very low client penetration rate. We also fully expect to capture replacement demand with our strong share positions in Canada, Brazil and Mexico.

Speaker 1

And in India, we recently expanded our offering with a majority stake in ELLICOP India in 2021, and we just started the production of front door bosses in India, we want to continue to invest in this business. Combined with the best portfolio of brands, including console and Bras Tempe, Each is generating $1,000,000,000 in sales in Brazil, we are well positioned outside the U. S. Let me now move on to our last then item and discuss our progress on our portfolio transformation towards a higher margin and higher growth business. As you can see on Slide 27, These efforts have been underway for some time.

Speaker 1

Since 2018, we've executed multiple steps to streamline and optimize our portfolio and are excited to add the in sync radar business to the portfolio. On Slide 28, I will remind you of a 3 strong pillars that will accelerate our portfolio transformation towards a higher margin and higher growth business. Our Global Small Appliance Business and our Commercial Appliance Business both deliver strong margins over 15%. And with the addition of the InSigurator, we have taken yet another significant step to strengthen our major appliance business, specifically in North America, bringing an iconic brand to Whirlpool. OneMed is the largest manufacturer of food waste disposers in Instant Pot Water Dispenses with more than 70% of the U.

Speaker 1

S. Industry, adding approximately $1.25 EPS accretion in 2023. As Joe mentioned, we expect the acquisition to close on October 31. We expect to continue to invest in building Whirlpool as a higher growth higher margin business as we continue to deliver significant shareholder returns. Now turning to Slide 29, I will provide an update on the strategic review of our EMEA business.

Speaker 1

We have been assessing a number of options for the business to a goal of maximizing long term value. With 2 guiding principles as we navigate this review: 1, what creates the most valuable for cooperation 2, what is required for future success in Europe. We received significant interest from a number of parties and narrowed the discussions to refine the negotiations with strategic investors. Given the confidential nature of these discussions, we're unable to share further details, but we'll provide an taped no later than on our Q4 earnings call. Again, our focus is to ensure we have the strongest business for our shareholders and employees, further supporting our portfolio transformation towards a high growth and high margin business.

Speaker 1

In parallel with reviewing external options, we also revisited our internal consummation plan. We have completed a pressure test of all our business segments and evaluated strategic alternatives. Additionally, we have worked diligently to develop a sustainable and attractive business case for the region. Ultimately, this will serve as a comparison and alternative as to any external option. Now let me close with a few remarks and turn to Slide 30.

Speaker 1

We have a proven track record of successfully operating Pruseikos. And despite the significant industry headwinds we're facing, we still expect 2022 to be 2nd best year in our 111 year history. We have the right strategy and actions in place to navigate the current environment. We have largely offset raw material inflation with decisive pricing actions. We have initiated cost actions, which will deliver $500,000,000 of benefit in 2023 and adjusted inventories to reflect the current demand.

Speaker 1

We are reiterating our long term growth outlook. And based on the initiatives We're taking, we believe that Wofund will exit the current and temporary industry law at high operating margin. At the same time, we continue to advance our portfolio transformation, leaving us well positioned to continue to deliver strong shareholder value. Now we will end our formal remarks and open it up for questions.

Speaker 5

And your first question comes from the line of Sam Darkash from Raymond James. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Good morning, Mark, Jim, Joe. How are you?

Operator

Good morning, Sam. Good morning.

Speaker 6

Good morning. Thank you. A couple of questions, the first around raws and the second around production. I mean, I guess the I was originally going to ask you why the spread of Possible raw material inflation in the Q4 was so wide, but I'm guessing that's mostly a function of you're not entirely sure yet what demand in Production might look like and so I'm really more interested in your 2023 thoughts. I think in your prepared remarks, You mentioned that the first half of twenty twenty three, you might see raw material inflate year on year.

Speaker 6

And I'm confused as to why that might be given the steel contract resets and what have you. So could you give some more quantification or clarification in terms of what you're expecting for raws next year?

Speaker 1

So Sam, it's Mark. Let me maybe first talk about the raw materials, and then I would have Joe comment him on production reduction and how we feel about the inventories. So first of all, on raw material, you obviously saw there was still quite a bit of an element in Q3 of 7.5 percent impact on the EBIT margin, obviously, in the cost and more. And that has, as we indicated, And we expect that that is pretty much peaked in Q3. However, Q4 not being materially better.

Speaker 1

So let me first talk about Q4. Part of the reason is there's 2 reasons why it's not materially better. One is spot prices have not come down a whole lot yet, but I emphasize yet. The second part is keep in mind, big parts of our raw material are under hedging contracts or similar contracts, in particular steel and plastics. So Even with spot prices start moving in the right direction, the impact you see on the contractual terms are not yet fully visible, but they will at one point.

Speaker 1

So to really clarify, and I'm glad you're raising it on the first half, we're not saying it's increasing. We say it starts to ease. So we do expect raw materials to come down and starting coming down throughout the first half. But I don't think you will see a dramatic Change kind of year over year, and I think you see much more favorable comparisons for back half. But we do absolutely see an easing of raw material in the first half and we will give you much more detail than in our January earnings call around raw material.

Speaker 1

So Joe, on the production?

Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks, Mark. This is Joe. Related to production, we did see the industry a little bit softer than we anticipated. So we made very decisive actions to right size our production and ultimately our inventory to ensure that we were in sync with what we saw the market developing.

Speaker 3

We expect that kind of continue into Q4 and so we took those actions in a sharp manner to make sure that we were right sized and then ready for upcoming Q4 holiday promotions and the demand that we saw ahead of us. Those actions were very pronounced 35% reduction in production globally. So As indicated in the prepared remarks, that's a level that we've not seen historically. The other parallel will be early on in COVID. We took a similar amount of production out Just given all the things happening, so very pronounced, very decisive, but it got us to a nice balanced position and we think going forward Let me respond to where we're

Speaker 2

going to be with the market.

Speaker 6

Joe, why would you ramp production back up in the Q4? At least I think that's what you're anticipating based on demand still being weak and the need to retain as much price as you Can in 'twenty three once raws come off. I'm confused as to why you just took one big bite out of the apple as opposed to keeping production really modest until you start to see stabilizing trends.

Speaker 3

Yes, maybe that wasn't clear to say, but the intent was we Right sized in the quarter given the environment we're in, just slightly worse than we anticipated from an industry standpoint. That got us to the right level. So from here on out, We'll essentially be more in sync in managing production with output as is more typical. And so there isn't an assumption of a Big ramp down or a big ramp up. That wasn't the implication.

Speaker 3

It was more about adjusting and synchronizing in Q3. And then now it's in sync with our expectations for Q4.

Speaker 1

Or Sam, put it differently, it's Marc. In Q3, we produced significantly less than we sold. And in Q4, that these numbers will be much more aligned. In North America, we'll pretty much sell what we produce or produce what we sell. So and now in absolute terms, that may be in North America slightly higher than Q3, but we will be very careful about not getting ahead of ourselves in production.

Speaker 1

So, frankly, the other reason why we decided to take a big step in Q3, and I'm glad it's behind us, even though the P and L impacts are not fully behind us. But If we're convinced that the peak cost inflation was in Q3, we just thought why would you want to produce full volumes when you think it's the highest cost So we want to take a step now and it's behind us from an operational perspective and that puts us in a very good position to deal with the next couple of quarters.

Speaker 3

Maybe one add, Mark, that's true also globally. So that phenomenon, while the characteristics are slightly different, those themes are true globally, which is important

Speaker 5

Your next question comes from the line of Erik Bissart from Cleveland Research. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Thank you. 2 things if I could. First of all, the price mix realization in the quarter was I think 200 basis points different than you expected 90 days ago. What changed to influence that different result?

Speaker 3

This is Joe. I believe the price mix, I mean, we did get a better availability position. And as a consequence, we were able to go to market in ways that we thought were productive. Now that go to market action was slightly more intensive or elevated than we anticipated originally And that was a function of a couple of things, us being in better position from the availability standpoint and us seeing opportunities in the market. As a consequence, those were productive And in North America specifically, we were able to gain share slightly from Q2 to Q3 as a consequence of both availability and our go to market approach.

Speaker 7

Okay. That makes sense. I understand the availability. Can you just can you expand on the go to market approach? And I guess specifically what I'm trying to figure out, Is this participating more in promotions?

Speaker 7

Is this you being less aggressive on price increases? Is this retailers Pushing back on price increases as consumers buying down in mix, like something's different. I appreciate that the go to market availability was better, but can you just expand on that a little bit

Speaker 3

I mean, there's obviously varied components in there. So it isn't just one answer for all things. But what I would say is there was some promotion involvement that we thought was accretive, so we participated there. There was also some launches. We had a new dishwasher launch that came out and so there were some investments behind some new innovations as well.

Speaker 3

But by and large, those were slightly different than when we were in constrained environment We didn't have either of those two assets available to us.

Speaker 1

Eric, maybe just adding to this one. First of all, again, that's why we also included the slides about the past price increase. We have now in North America globally 7 price increase behind us in a very short time period. So we certainly haven't been shy of passing on costs to the marketplace. What happened in Q3 and more specifically to your questions, yes, the market is slightly more promotional and for example, a year ago or half a year ago.

Speaker 1

I also want to point out it's not comparable to pre COVID periods. So it is more promotional, more promotional elevated, and that's what we probably expect to see also go forward. But it's you can't compare it to pre COVID times. So it's somewhere in between, and that's what we're just dealing right now with. To those point, the good news is we start seeing sequential share gains for our North America business, and that's good.

Speaker 5

Your next question comes from the line of Susan Maklari from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. My first question is good morning. Can you talk a little bit about the channel inventories? Appreciating that you took drastic steps to align your But what are you seeing out in the channels?

Speaker 3

By and large this is Joe again. By and large, what we're seeing is a fairly balanced perspective across All of our channels, we don't believe that we're undersupplied or oversupplied and a lot of that has to do with the adjustments we've made throughout 2020, I would say, few quarters back we were still in constrained positions, but we were undersupplied. That's no longer the case. We feel like we're right where we need to be holistically across the channels and frankly well positioned, given the exit in Q3 with all the adjustments that we made. I think that feels like a really good spot to be in and we wanted to end.

Speaker 8

Okay. And then perhaps taking a bit of a longer term approach, Can you talk a little bit about how we think of the North American margin being at that 10% this quarter Relative to that longer term target that you've set for us in the mid teens range, what are the steps that we'll need to see in order to get back there? And is that Still the right range as you think about where the consumer and where the business is?

Speaker 1

Susan, it's Mark. So maybe I can give a perspective. So Nothing has changed in our perspective about what should be long term structural margins in North America. And to be a little bit more specific, when we had North America business on 17%, 18% margin. We I mean, we felt that it's probably a little bit higher than we see the long term structural margin.

Speaker 1

By the same We feel right now the 10% are also not reflective of structural margins for two reasons. One is just You know, if you in the most simple way to explain it is kind of you have 2 major macro cycles are out of sync right now, I. E. Demand is down and cost is up. That is an untypically cost for those demand.

Speaker 1

Now if you look back the last 20 years, Might happen a few times, but it typically doesn't last very long. So to have these macro cycles out of sync to that extreme is Highly unusual and will not last very long. And 2, as Joe alluded to, the 35% production cut was also true for North America. So we have a significant impact You have a massive fixed cost business basically taking out that kind of volume that, of course, is you feel it. So you take these factors out of equation, we're still coming back to vis a vis structural run rate margins, which we I'm communicating in the past and we still absolutely feel they are achievable.

Speaker 1

Now to your question about what needs to happen, the biggest step which should happen is the combination of external raw material costs coming down and us taking additional steps in our own cost takeout. These are the biggest, I would say 0 to 12 months levers, which we have to pull and which we're committed to pull.

Speaker 5

Your next question Jim comes from the line of Mike Dahl from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Mark, it's good to hear that incinerator is scheduled to close here just in The next couple of weeks, I was wondering if you could give us any insight on how is that business performing against this recent environment that you've seen in your core business and how should we be thinking about the financial impacts that are embedded in guidance for the Q4 related to Inseegrater?

Speaker 1

So Mike, let me maybe try to give you a first answer, then I would ask Jim to more give you a little bit more financial perspective. First of all, We have not yet closed the transaction that is expected to happen October 31. And obviously, we're Very, very, very confident if we'll have more data and everything is on track. And as such, we have We're not yet controlling that business. And as such, we kind of cannot really fully communicate.

Speaker 1

And what we hear is The margins are intact, which is good, but we also see similar demand or discretionary demand starting coming down. The Naturepad business Has a little bit longer order pipeline etcetera, so I would say similar trends, similar actions, The encouraging thing is the margins are very strong. We keep on very strong and the market share is very strong. So where Everybody experiences the same element in housing, and Integrator is not immune to that, but we strongly believe this is an extremely healthy, strong and sustainable business and we're happy that we are hopefully or well not hopefully, but we're going to be closing this transaction in 10 days from now. And then if you want to make comment a little bit what Bitzer would expect for Q4 and

Speaker 4

then going forward. Yes. Mike, this is Jim. I think Last call, we disclosed that we see for 2023 the impact of the in Sync Creator business being about $1.25 per share. And so if you think about that, the 2 months that we will then be consolidating within the Q4 here would imply right around $0.20 but then also you do will have some effects that are related to just some of the how you account for an acquisition at the very beginning and a few things that you may have to adjust for.

Speaker 4

So That's probably the maximum amount you'd see. So it's going to be a pretty immaterial impact to the Q4 and the bigger impact will be next this year on a full year consolidated basis.

Speaker 7

Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. And then my follow-up is somewhat related,

Speaker 1

Just given these given the

Speaker 7

pressures you're seeing, you've taken down your free cash flow guidance. You have You are increasing your leverage to take on and Sync Raider. Now you've got a lower free cash It sounds like at least through the first half of next year, you're still expecting some market pressures, some inflation pressures, so perhaps Some further headwinds to free cash. How should we think about the implications visavis plans for deleveraging, how much net leverage you can kind of pay down post Closing of the deal and then what that means for your buyback. And I know it's on pause, but just any thoughts around kind of timing of of how you're thinking about that.

Speaker 4

Yes, Mike. This is Jim again. And I think if you remember when we talked about as we look at how we'll finance the transaction as we'll use approximately $500,000,000 of existing cash on hand and then through multiple term loans, we will finance another $2,500,000,000 which will put us about next year, let's just say on a gross debt to leverage perspective around in the neighborhood of 3.5. As you mentioned, right now, we have suspended our buybacks and we will be holding off on that until we begin to reduce our debt levels down, obviously, and that's what we said is going to be

Speaker 1

a focus go forward. But when

Speaker 4

we look at the structural cash flows of our business, which as Mark alluded to before, haven't changed, and are just being impacted right now by a lower level of demand. But as that begins to come back, we expect our cash flows to come back to the levels we've seen in recent years that were above $1,000,000,000 per year, which will give us the ability to finance all of our different capital allocation priorities. So obviously continue to fund our business, pay our dividend and bring our debt levels down. And then at some point in the future, once we get back to our targeted leverage areas, then obviously share buyback will become a priority that we will focus more on then. I have to remind folks that if you look at the last 2 years leading up to this, our return to shareholders was over $2,500,000,000 when you look at share buybacks and dividends.

Speaker 4

So it's obviously been a focus of ours. We've we will continue to have that as a focus in

Speaker 1

the future. Mike, maybe just adding to this one. We pride ourselves. We have a very strong balance sheet and we'll have a very strong balance sheet after the InSigurator acquisition. And that strong balance sheet gives us optionality.

Speaker 1

Just to give you Two more additional comments. First of all, when we're referring to leverage, keep in mind, we're referring to gross debt leverage, which is probably by year end expect to be somewhere north of 3. Keep in mind that excludes the almost $2,000,000,000 cash, which we have right now. So that's a gross debt leverage. A mere way to look at our financial structure and our debt structure, we basically had over the last couple of years a long term debt level of about SEK 5,000,000,000 That is unchanged.

Speaker 1

What has changed is a little bit how we over last 5 years refinanced and did the debt letter. So the debt letter is very good, very long. The average cost interest cost of this $5,000,000 is 2.9%, so extremely attractive in today's terms. What Jim was referring to is how we in the short term finance the inSingrator acquisition where we made the decision we will only use €500,000,000 of our cash and have the rest a short term loan on a term loan, and we intend to pay that down pretty fast. And that meant at the same time, maybe not entirely sequential, maybe to some extent parallel, will then potentially open the space again for share buybacks.

Speaker 5

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Rehaut from JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Thanks. Good morning, everyone.

Speaker 1

Good morning, Micah.

Speaker 9

First question, just wanted to get a little clarity on 3Q and 4Q and some of the puts and takes. Obviously, you highlighted the 35% reduction in global production. And I was wondering how much that Specifically impacted your margins and if you have the absence of that headwind in 4Q, Why would you have kind of similar margins? I don't know if there's a further moderation in price mix. You kind of mentioned promotions starting to kick up again.

Speaker 9

Any clarity around the impact of again inventory reductions in 3Q and why it wouldn't be a little better in 4Q?

Speaker 4

Hey, Michael, this is Jim. And let me kind of start with that. And so if you look at the 35% reduction we did in our production in the quarter. That cost us over $100,000,000 when you just think about the leverage you within your factories and as Mark and Joe talked about the level of fixed costs we have there. That cost actually does get spread across Q3 and Q4 because some of that does get hung up in inventory during this time period and so it flows out throughout both quarters.

Speaker 4

Additionally, When you think about we talked about earlier the peak of raw materials coming around Q3, which means and Mark mentioned this earlier, So as that begins to flow out, you think about how that flows out in Q4, that also has an impact on the margin in Q3 and Q4. And that's why As we look at the rest of the year, we do believe it will be relatively flat. We aren't expecting a significant change in demand through those two quarters. And then the last piece is just naturally in the seasonality of our business and how the promotional environment works even when it's reduced, Q4 is your strongest or your highest amount of promotional spend within a year, no matter what the absolute amount is for the year. So that's also why you've got that seasonality effect in Q4.

Speaker 9

Okay. That's a helpful rundown. I appreciate that. Secondly, I think there's been you kind of highlighted some key variables to think about for next year and there's been a couple of questions. Just I want to try and clarify a little bit across cost takeout, which is obviously can be a big margin benefit, but also raw materials and price mix.

Speaker 9

Kind of talking about obviously the headwinds that you expect in the first half, but then it should turn to tailwinds in the second half, at least in terms of raw materials. I was hoping to get some of your early expectations at this point. On a full year net basis, Would you expect raw materials to be a headwind or a tailwind based on current prices in the market today in the words steel and resins, etcetera. And with the cost takeout program. Should we be thinking that perhaps you're going to give some of that back to the consumer amid a still softer demand environment?

Speaker 9

And what does that mean in terms of price mix being even potentially negative.

Speaker 1

So Michael, it's Mark. So let me Try to answer your question. First of all, I would say upfront. Even in normal times in the October call, we would be hesitant to give you a lot of perspective on 23. And I think we would all agree we're not exactly in a bit normal time.

Speaker 1

So any forecast for 'twenty three, obviously, you need to take it for a grain of salt. So let me just run it down through items where we don't want to or can't give you today's specific answers and where you can get a little bit more color and perspective. So the first one going through P and L, demand and I would say and pricing is right now too uncertain to forecast. You know the global demand are some elements driven in terms of consumer sentiments and ultimately also relating to what happens to mortgage rates, what happens to be born in Ukraine. So there's a lot of macro factors, which, if you like it or not, will weigh on short term demand.

Speaker 1

Doesn't change our long term demand or midterm demand outlook. But of course, there need to be some macro concerns being reduced or eliminated before we see a significant pickup of consumer confidence. So that's probably the demand and correlated and or related to this on pricing is The biggest uncertainty will give you our perspective in January. If you want to get my personal perspective for Q3, Q4 and probably Q1, I think we will still see a depressed and Volatile Demand Environment. And afterwards, we'll get a seat.

Speaker 1

Then on the cost side, the CHF 500,000,000 net Cost reduction, I was referred to earlier. We can confirm that. And if you want to say so, you can include that in your spreadsheet because that's what you will also hear in January. The raw material side, we have not quantified. But obviously, as you could see or hear from our comments, we do expect gradual easing of the raw material side.

Speaker 1

And yes, on a full year base, we absolutely do expect this to become a positive factor, I. E, no more increase, but rather decrease of raw material, the magnitude of which we will clarify and quantify in January. But we do expect a reduction of raw material costs.

Speaker 5

Your next question comes from the line of Ken Zener from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker 2

Good morning, everybody. Good morning,

Speaker 8

Dan. Hi,

Speaker 3

Dan. Jim, I wonder if you

Speaker 2

could go back to this curtailment. Just I think I'm getting confused a little bit. Obviously, what do you generally what do you talk about in terms of unit leverage within your business. Outside, it was kind of in that 15%, 20% range. And I think you just mentioned there was 100,000,000 Of dollar headwinds in 3rd quarter associated with the curtailment in North America.

Speaker 2

Was that right? That's about 3.5 Bill,

Speaker 4

not in North America, but I said there was, Kent, within we see due to the reduction we did approximate a little bit more than $100,000,000 due to the product that will come through in Q3 and Q4 through our P and L.

Speaker 2

Q3 and Q4, okay. Then and I think, Joe, you talked about in various words gaining some shares sequentially, productive share gains, I. E. Higher volume associated with Promotions, Mark, you said nothing like pre COVID, but still a kind of drag. And I think it's obviously understandable.

Speaker 2

Everyone's trying to narrow in on the cost basis or where you are in terms of volume in the business. If we were to be, let's say, flat next year, if the margins would get us back to that Longer term guidance just because this year is exiting at such a lower rate, it's right, bifurcated 2nd half, first half. And I'm not sure if any of us know exactly where existing homes are going to go next year given where Rates are right now. So is there a way that you could kind of talk about isolate those And that promotion obviously helped increase your volume versus a more stable run rate. Does that make sense at all, gentlemen?

Speaker 2

It's such a big cut in the margins as we exit the year is my question.

Speaker 4

And maybe Ken, let me kind of start on a few of the points There and then I'll ask Joe and Mark to I think if you start to think about next year and the opportunities for cost reduction that will come with at least a demand headwind, as Mark mentioned, in the Q1 or early in the year. As we come out of this year, what we'll start with a healthy level of inventory, which then allows us to run our factories in a very efficient way and allows us to hopefully as we look at the demand environment and stay in check with it. And Joe used the word synchronization earlier that we synchronize our production with the demand environment. It takes that volatility out, which has a cost and has an inefficiency to it. So, which has a cost and has an inefficiency to it.

Speaker 4

So as we look forward, I think, you know, what you saw was such a big reduction here that we talked about because The market and the demand did move very quickly. We've now adjusted to that level and we believe we can keep our production at that level and then as demand would increase ramp it up appropriately. So I think as you think about next year, you do get efficiencies and cost savings that are part of that broader $500,000,000 that Mark talked about, but that's just one of many components that would be in there.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Jim. I think this was the last question which we had in the call. So let me maybe just quickly wrap up here. So as you heard throughout the prepared remarks and also in Q and A. We are dealing with headwinds of what you've seen in a recessionary demand environment, and we're dealing with that proactively and decisively.

Speaker 1

We've done so, and we will continue to do so. At the same time, we're not yet experiencing the tailwinds which come to recession in the form of cost reduction. We will at one point. And we have also announced that we'll take on top of it additional cost internally on how we bring down fixed and variable costs. Beyond the short term recession environment, the quicker question is how we're positioned to post recession environment.

Speaker 1

And on that note, as you hopefully heard, is we continue to be very upbeat about the mid- and long term demand trends, which spells significant opportunities for us. With everything which we've done on reducing and lowering breakeven points, which everything we've on product innovation branding. I think we're very well positioned for a post recessionary environment, which at one point will come. So with that in mind, I thank you all for joining us today and wish you a wonderful Friday. Thank you.

Speaker 5

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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