Prologis Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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January 18, 2023

There are 17 speakers on the call.

Operator

And welcome to the Prologis 4th Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. I will now turn the conference over to our host, Jill Sawyer, Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you.

Operator

You may begin.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Diego, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our Q4 2022 earnings conference call. The supplemental document is available on our website at coagis.comunder I'd like to state that this conference call will contain forward looking statements under federal securities laws. These statements are based on current expectations, estimates, projections about the market and the industry in which Prologis operates as well as management's beliefs and assumptions. Forward looking statements are not guarantees of performance, and actual Operating results may be affected by a variety of factors.

Speaker 1

For a list of those factors, please refer to the forward looking statement notice in our 10 ks or other SEC filings. Additionally, our 4th quarter results press release and supplemental do contain financial measures such as FFO and EBITDA that are non GAAP measures. In accordance with Reg G, we have provided a reconciliation to those measures. I'd like to welcome Tim Arndt, our CFO, who will cover results, real time market conditions and guidance Hamid Moghadam, our CEO and our entire executive team are also with us today. With that, I'll hand the call over to Tim.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jill. Good morning, everybody, and welcome to our 4th quarter earnings call. Let me begin by thanking our global team for delivering an excellent quarter year. We've had outstanding results despite challenging headwinds from the capital markets and the overall economic backdrop. In the face of this, our focus has been to serve our customers and investors, putting our heads down and executing on our long term plan.

Speaker 2

As you see in our results, our portfolio is in excellent shape, driven by still strong demand and a continued lack of availability. This foundation for our business not only drove our nearly 13% increase in year over year core earnings, but it also sets of the company for sustainable growth for years to come. Turning to results, core FFO excluding promotes was $4.61 per share And including promotes was $5.16 per share, ahead of our forecast. In the Q4, our operating results again generated several new records. Occupancy increased to 98.2 percent with retention of 82%.

Speaker 2

The Prologis portfolio excluding Duke Added 30 of the 40 basis point increase over the quarter. While we tend to quote occupancy, it is notable that the portfolio is 98.6 percent leased, A record that underscores the tightness across our markets. Rent change for the quarter was 51% on a net effective basis. The step down from our 3rd quarter rent change of 60% is a reflection of mix and not market rents. In fact, Market rent growth exceeded expectations during the quarter, increasing our lease mark to market to a record 67%.

Speaker 2

These results drove same store growth to 7.7% on a net effective basis and 9.1% on cash. The Duke portfolio having closed on October 3 is fully integrated in these results with the exception of same store growth, which will not be reflected until the Q1 of 2024. On the balance sheet, while access to the debt markets has remained challenging for many issuers, We successfully executed a number of transactions during the quarter, raising over $1,100,000,000 at an interest rate below 3%, including $700,000,000 of new unsecured borrowings out of Japan and Canada. Our credit metrics continue to be excellent And we've maintained over $4,000,000,000 of liquidity at year end with borrowing capacity across Prologis and the open ended funds Of $20,000,000,000 expanded significantly due to our balance sheet growth from the Duke acquisition. With regard to our markets and leasing activity, the bottom line is that conditions remain healthy and there is little we see across our results or Translates to a meaningful increase in rents.

Speaker 2

Across our markets, rent growth was nearly 5% during the quarter, driving the full year to 28%. Proposal activity per available space was consistent with our recent history and given persistent low vacancy, there is simply a very small number of units to even propose deals on. As evidenced, over 99% of our portfolio is either currently leased or in negotiation. Utilization remains high at 80 And deal gestation ticked up over the quarter, indicative of more careful consideration and time being taken in leasing decisions. While we are watching e commerce carefully, its share of overall retail sales has increased to 22%, which is 600 basis points above its pre pandemic level.

Speaker 2

Putting the nuance of mix, timing and other factors aside, As measured by retention, occupancy or rent change, it is clear that customers need to commit to space and market conditions, which offer them very little choice. In terms of supply, the development pipeline across our market stands at 565,000,000 Square Feet and our expectation for the year is that the pipeline will decline. Deliveries will put modest upward pressure on vacancies from 3.3% today toward 4 Later in the year. However, new development starts are slowing in response to the market environment, which will reduce vacancies in late 'twenty three or 'twenty four. In Europe, we expect deliveries to outpace absorption by approximately 30,000,000 square feet, expanding the current 2 point 6% vacancy rate to approximately 3.5%.

Speaker 2

Finally, and as expected, our true months of supply metric grew to 25 months in the U. S. From 22 months last quarter. As a reminder, this metric has averaged roughly 36 months over the last 10 years. In Capital Markets, transactions continue to be slow in the 4th quarter, making price discovery challenging.

Speaker 2

That said, return requirements are trending to the low to mid-seven This expansion further affected appraised values in our funds, although continued rent growth has mitigated some of the effect. Our U. S. Values, which were appraised by 3rd parties every quarter, declined 6% this quarter and 7% over the entire second half. In Europe, values declined approximately 12% during the quarter and 16% over the half.

Speaker 2

Our open end funds have received only modest redemption requests, less than 3% of net asset value during the quarter, totaling 5% across the second half. Our flagship funds have strong balance sheets with low leverage, largely undrawn credit facilities, Cash on hand and undrawn equity commitments. While we believe the value declines over the second half reflect market, Investors are still adjusting to a new environment. Because we strive to be consistent in our actions and fair to all investors, We will redeem units, call equity and resume asset contributions when price discovery has run its course. We expect that to be 1 to 2 quarters away, likely sooner in Europe.

Speaker 2

This will ensure certainty, fairness and consistency to all of our investors. Turning to our outlook for 2023. While our macro forecast assumes a moderate recession, which may put headwinds on demand, Our business is driven by secular forces and long term planning by our customers that should limit the impact unless such a downturn becomes significant and protracted. As mentioned earlier, we believe vacancy will build in the market and our portfolio, both of which are unsustainably below. Putting this sentiment together with our outlook on supply and demand, our 'twenty three rent forecast calls for approximately 10% growth in the U.

Speaker 2

S. And 9% globally. We acknowledge that our rent forecasts have proven conservative in recent years, but we are comfortable with this starting point given the environment. Specific to our portfolio and on an hour share basis, we expect average occupancy to range between 96.5% 97.5%, roughly 50 basis points lower than the 22 midpoint. Combined with Rent Change, we forecast to generate net effective same store growth of Approximately 8% to 9% with cash same store growth between 8.5% and 9.5%.

Speaker 2

Given these assumptions, we believe our lease mark to market will Sustained or even increased over 23, ending the year between 65% 70% and providing to an incremental $2,900,000,000 of NOI after the more than $300,000,000 that will become realized over the course of this year. We expect G and A to range between $370,000,000 $385,000,000 reflecting not only inflation in wages and other corporate costs, but also additional investments we are making in our Essentials business, particularly in the energy teams. In that regard, we expect the contribution to FFO from Essentials range between $0.07 $0.09 this year. This reflects 70% growth in revenues and tax credits from 'twenty two, but offset in the near term by our higher Duke related share count and the G and A investments just mentioned. In terms of operational metrics for the business, We expect to add 115 Megawatts of solar power over the year, driving the portfolio to approximately 5 20 Megawatts by year end.

Speaker 2

It's worth noting that we closed 2022 as the 2nd largest on-site power producer in the U. S, a position we will build upon with our plan for 1 gigawatt production and storage by 2025. We also forecast to have over 20 EV charging clusters installed and operational by year end. In deployment, we will continue to be disciplined in our approach to new starts. We have over $39,000,000,000 of opportunities to select from in our land bank.

Speaker 2

In between our expectations for build to suits and logical markets for spec, we see an active year of starts initially to range between $2,500,000,000 $3,000,000,000 with a real opportunity to grow as conditions warrant. As mentioned earlier, we plan for redemptions to be cleared out over the year Private fundraising to resume. Accordingly, we forecast contribution activity to occur primarily in the second half And resulting in combined contribution and disposition guidance of $2,000,000,000 to $3,000,000,000 Finally, in Strategic We forecast revenues excluding promotes to range between $500,000,000 $525,000,000 which is impacted by valuation write downs across 'twenty two and the first half of 'twenty three. We are forecasting net promote income of $0.40 based on an assumption that values in USLF, Primary source of 23 promotes will decline further from values at year end. Every 1% change in asset value equates to slightly less than $0.02 Net Promote income.

Speaker 2

Putting this all together, we expect core FFO excluding promotes to range between $5.05 $5.10 per share. At the midpoint of our guidance, this represents approximately 9.5% growth over 2022. We're guiding core FFO including promotes to range between 5.40 and $5.50 per share. In closing, this guidance builds upon an exceptional 3 year period of sector leading earnings growth. At our 2019 Investor Day, we presented a 3 year plan targeting 8.5% annual growth, yet We achieved nearly 14% over this period, 5.50 basis points of annual outperformance.

Speaker 2

We expect 2023 to be a year where headlines continue to be disconnected from our business and ability to deliver strong growth and value creation. While there are many unknowns generally, there are more knowns in our business that are clear, such as our lease mark to market, significant and visible opportunity in our land bank, A need for excitement for a need and excitement for a new generation of sustainable energy solutions and a dedicated team that is the best in the business and laser focused on delivering leading results. I will now turn the call over to the operator to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will be conducting a question and answer It may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from Steve Sakwa with Evercore. Please state your question.

Speaker 3

Yes, thanks. I guess, good morning out there. Tim, I just wanted to clarify in your Going through your guidance, you throw out a lot of numbers. I just want to make sure on the mark to market numbers that are embedded in your same store NOI growth of 8 to 9 GAAP and 8.5 to 9.5 cash. Just what are you expecting for cash and GAAP leasing spreads?

Speaker 3

And just want to make sure that's different than the kind of overall portfolio mark to market you talked about of 65% to 70%.

Speaker 2

Yes. They're going to be stronger. As you think about the lease mark to market, it's all of the leases, so it represents old leases and leases just done. So clearly, Everything that will roll next year is going to be above the 67% we're quoting today. It's a little bit flatter than you might expect as we've looked at it.

Speaker 2

I think Leasing spreads next year are going to be in the high 70s to low 80s on a net effective basis. And then as we know, the cash basis of that is Trended towards probably 1500 basis points or so inside of that.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Craig Mailman with Citi. Please state your question.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning, everyone. I just want to hit on the capital deployment Side of things, maybe a 2 parter here. Just first on the stabilization, just The kind of the what you guys have stabilizing the $2,800,000,000 at your share, can you just bridge that gap versus the $5,500,000,000 That you have on Page 20 of expected deliveries or completions in 2023 and maybe just Give us some sense of timing on that. I know I think about 30% of those are build to suits. So also how you're thinking about where the pre leasing is On the balance of that as well and kind of how that layers into your occupancy assumption?

Speaker 2

Yes, I'll take the Craig, it's Tim. I'll take the first half and Dan can help with the second. This is really a date issue, I would say, not even an issue, but just Function of the date, we have a large amount of that group of stabilizations we believe will occur in the Q1 of 'twenty four. And I think there is a very real possibility that if we improve some of the leasing timing by just a month or 2, we could see a decent amount of that actually fall back into So it's just a function of crossing over a calendar year, the way the mix of all of our projects is landing.

Speaker 5

And this is Dan. I'll just pile on there. The pre leasing in that portfolio, as you see, there's 29% of that that's In there as a build to suit, the pre leasing is better than that 29% and I would say on track with historical averages, Even on a bigger data set here. So we feel really good about delivering our stabilizations this year and next.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Ki Bin Kim with Truist. Please state your question.

Speaker 6

Thanks and good morning. I was curious about the investment capacity that you showed in your supplemental of $1,500,000,000 is down from $4,200,000,000 I just want to understand What that actually represents? And tying that to your comments about contributions perhaps picking back up if conditions Settle out. How does that comment compare to the $1,500,000,000 capacity? And how much wiggle room do you ultimately have in increasing that capacity?

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Hey, Ki Bin. So what I would do with regard to investment capacity is rely more on the way I'm describing it in our Prepared remarks, the $20,000,000,000 $4,000,000,000 or $5,000,000,000 across the funds, the number that's presented in the sub, which is what I think you're referring to, It is a bit technical about the current amount of equity that can be drawn in the funds and then that number is levered slightly, so that's why it's a bit understated. The number we supplement it with in prepared remarks is looking at the overall leverage of the fund and how much more capacity sits beyond Just to add a committed equity post leverage. So for example, our U. S.

Speaker 2

L. F. Venture is very low leverage, just about 10%, And that creates an incredible amount of debt capacity as you can imagine. And I think that winds up addressing your second question, which is The liquidity and the funds for contributions, there's a lot there for us to tap over time.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Derek Johnston with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question.

Speaker 3

Hi, everyone. How are you doing? Can you give us an update on the markets in Europe, the mark to market there, any leasing trends? I think you touched briefly on the private market transaction backdrop. We definitely see the U.

Speaker 3

S. Mark to market getting wider. How do you view demand in Europe and the differences between the U. S. And Europe unfolding in 2023?

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 7

Yes. Let me start with some general comments. Europe is generally a mild and more muted version of the U. S, both on the way up And on the way down. And the market is has a lower vacancy rate than the U.

Speaker 7

S. If you can believe it. So that's the general backdrop. That's very consistent with the way Europe has behaved in the last 10 or 15 years. As to the specifics on mark to market and the like, Dan, do you want to cover that?

Speaker 5

Yes, sure. Lease mark to market in Europe is about 28%. And I would say just overall, we feel very good about the leasing demand in Europe right now. We talked about in the remarks about an expansion in the vacancy, but overall feel really good about where it's headed.

Speaker 7

And the you might ask What about the U. K? Because that's the one you hear about all the time. And actually, that's really strong too so far. So we've actually been surprised on the positive side With the UK, the other place that is really held up well is actually Germany, which you would have guessed with energy issues Would be softer, it hasn't been, and there's virtually no vacancy in Germany.

Speaker 7

And some of the manufacturing coming back, Particularly autos, etcetera, are really strengthening Central and Eastern Europe, the markets, particularly Poland, where there's this Perennial vacancy is sort of tightening up.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Nick Yulico with Scotiabank, please state your question.

Speaker 3

Thanks. I want to dig in a little bit to the sectors That you're seeing driving leasing demand, let's say, in the Q4 and so far this year, whether you're seeing any changes in types of And then as I guess, we think about the broader retailer bucket, Where you did see some retailers reporting year over year sales declines in the back half of last year, wondering if any pieces of that category is seeing Less demand.

Speaker 7

Yes. The only category that is significantly below And it's likely to be that way as housing, because the starts are slowing. But with respect to other detail, Chris, you want to take that?

Speaker 8

Yes, it's absolutely right. Generally, Nick, it was diverse. So whether we look at consumer products, whether we look at apparel, Food and beverage customers, we have a diverse range of customers leasing space from us beyond the housing categories, which would include Construction, it could include HomeGoods, that's the like.

Speaker 7

Yes. And retail sales on a real basis, notwithstanding the weaker prints in December November are good. I think it's between 2.5% and 3% up compared to the year So yes, you do hear the headlines of the weaker retailers, but I think if you look at it overall, it's actually pretty positive. It's more positive than the headlines. I wouldn't say it's super positive, but it's much better than the headlines.

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please state your question.

Speaker 9

Good morning. Good afternoon. Thanks a lot for taking my question. You clearly laid out the building blocks of your same store NOI growth of 8.5% to 9.5% in 2023, Where you have a high level of visibility, obviously, a lot of macro uncertainty out there. Can you provide the specific assumptions you've used for your Initial 2023 outlook and then just where and how a change in the macro environment could provide upside or downside to your initial guidance?

Speaker 9

Thanks.

Speaker 7

So let me just start that and Tim will get to take you through the specifics. Actually, the assumptions about the macro environment other than Call it defaults or something that has an immediate effect are not going to drive the numbers big time in 2023, Because a lot of the leasing that needs to take place in 2023 is already in progress or been dealt with. We're dealing with very high occupancy levels. To start with, there is not a whole lot of space to lease and the real driver of those same store numbers is the huge mark to market In the portfolio that already exists. So that's so don't expect even if we change the assumptions by a lot, The numbers for 2023 are not going to move that much.

Speaker 7

They will obviously move as you get further along into the future. So that's one comment I would make. The second comment I would make is that in every year in the last 3 or 4 years, we started the year with rental assumptions that We have exceeded sometimes by a factor of 3x to 4x. So I'm not saying that's going to happen this year, but there is Absolutely no reason in the world to go crazy on our assumptions with respect to rental rates, Particularly, they don't have an effect in 2023 anyway. So we'll see how it plays.

Speaker 7

And if we see evidence of Stronger rental growth and my bet would be a surprise on the upside over our assumptions, not the other way around. Then we'll let you know and you can adjust the numbers According. Tim?

Speaker 2

Yes. Just building on that, Michael, if you within the supplemental, You can see our lease expiration schedule. Out of that, you'll see we have about 13% rolling, and that's a mix of what It's stated as expiring, which is another 9%, but also things that we've already addressed ahead of entering the year here. So the footnotes will tell you that. You get to 13% there.

Speaker 2

As Hamid said, start with the 67% lease mark to market. We've got 10% market rent growth for the year. You assume we'll get that halfway, halfway through the year. One thing we see people get wrong is that will take you to a certain amount of rent change. We actually get half that Change this year, you get half of 'twenty two's rent change as well.

Speaker 2

That's a mathematic thing that's you need to be mindful of given the quantum of rent change we're talking about lately. That will all get you to close to 9%. And then we've backed off an assumption on occupancy loss, which we couldn't point to right now, But it just feels prudent in the environment. So we've taken our guidance down there a bit.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Vince Tibone with Green Street. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hi, good morning. How How should we think about the organic same store NOI growth for the legacy Duke portfolio in 2023 given that that's outside of guidance? Is it Lower than guidance for the legacy PLD portfolio in the same ballpark, just given the size of the Duke deal, any color you could share would be helpful.

Speaker 7

Well, it would be lower for one reason anyway, which is that they started at the higher level of occupancy. So putting even rents aside On a same store basis, there's less opportunity. They generally had longer term leases because they generally had bigger spaces. So that affects the mix. But Tim?

Speaker 2

Well, and I think an important thing to remember here and we've seen some people not have this entirely correct The modeling is just understanding that on a GAAP basis, there will be very little same store. There's potential for some, but because we mark the lease This is up to market now. At the close, on a net effective basis, there will be very little same store growth and that's contemplated in our guidance. On a cash basis, I expect it would look quite similar to Prologis.

Speaker 10

That's really helpful.

Speaker 7

Great.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from

Speaker 9

By the

Speaker 7

way, if I can continue that. One thing that you didn't ask, But it's important in this context and Dan can elaborate is that the rental performance Of the Duke portfolio on the few spaces that have come up for re leasing or were in progress During the time we were doing the transaction, are trending significantly higher than what we had underwritten. Dan, can you quantify that?

Speaker 5

Yes, it actually goes as far as saying, we Expect to outperform in the operating portfolio to 11% to 13%, call it. Now 8% of that is going to come from market rent growth. So really 3% to 5% of that comes from just operating that portfolio in the Prologis platform.

Operator

Next question comes from Tom Catherwood with BTIG. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Thanks. Tim, you mentioned in your prepared remarks that the outlook for 2023 assumes a recession. And if we look back to Previous recessionary cycles, usually we get declines in consumption with which drives lower demand for industrial space. But we've also never started a cycle with kind of persistently low vacancy like we have right now or tailwinds from E Commerce and Supply Chain Reconfiguration. So kind of within that backdrop of assuming a recession, How do you think it could be different this time and kind of what do you have baked into your numbers for that for 2023?

Speaker 7

So given that Tim was in kindergarten when cycle started, Tim and I are a little bit different on our recession outlook, but I don't think it matters. I think Tim would tell you that if there's a recession, there's a very mild recession. And my bet would be that we wouldn't have a recession, but it would be close to 0 GDP growth for a while. So call it recession and no recession, but the same outcome. I think what's different about other cycles, and I say that with a lot of A dislike for the word for the phrase it's different this time is that there were really 2 situations where we had negative absorption in the U.

Speaker 7

S, Which is where we have data. One was on thehealo.com and there you had a high vacancy rate. On top of it, you had a very low utilization rate because there was a lot of capital for these dotcom, particularly e commerce retailers, And they were taking space way ahead of demand. So there was a lot of shadow space too. So when you add those 2, it was a Very, very high vacancy type of market during that time, so 2000, 2000 and one timeframe.

Speaker 7

The next time you had a pretty significant negative absorption with 2,008, 2,009 and we all know the reasons for that. And There, you also started with a significantly higher rickance rate. I think it was 7% or 8% before the music stopped. And all I can tell you is that Prologis, the old Prologis with the funny L alone had 52,000,000 square feet of vacant spec space That they had to lease. I think AMB at the time had like 8,000,000 or 9,000,000 square feet.

Speaker 7

So nothing like you're talking about here, particularly given the Different scale of the company and how at least we're starting out. Now even in that situation where we're normally at about 95% We went down to about 91 in both cases. So I don't see anything near that. I mean, it's mathematically impossible. Even if absorption goes to 0 right now and we don't lease any more of the underdevelopment spec space And absorption goes to 0, I mean, you will be under 5% vacancy, which used to be considered a great Strong market.

Speaker 7

And to cap it all up, we didn't have this kind of mark to market. I mean, the mark to markets in those days were In the mid single digit range and now we're talking about 70% almost. So a very different picture.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc. Please state your question.

Speaker 12

Yes. Hi, thanks. Good morning. I just had a question about market rents actually. So the 10% market rent forecast in the U.

Speaker 12

S, Can you just discuss that or break it out a little bit for us in terms of coastal versus non coastal, in terms of your Expectations just in the context of supply growth that you're seeing and the demand backdrop in general?

Speaker 8

Yes. Hey, it's Chris Caton. So indeed, we expect 10% in the U. S. That's going to vary.

Speaker 8

Typical spread between coastal, non coastal It's 300 to 500 basis points, at least that's where it was running, say, pre pandemic. And we expect a wider spread In the current environment. So whether you look at vacancy, whether you look at the under construction pipeline, whether you look at Momentum in pricing in the back half of last year, including 4th quarter, that leads you to conclude on the coastal

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ronald Kamdem with Morgan Stanley. Please state your question.

Speaker 13

Hey, I just want to go

Speaker 7

back to some of the

Speaker 13

comments on the 3rd Marty and management, I think you talked about valuations being down 7% in the back half of last year and potentially continuing into this year and And the redemptions potentially ending in the 1st 2 quarters of the year, I just want to get a sense, any more color How are you thinking about that? Is it because the valuations have been repriced that you expect sort of redemptions to stop? What should we be looking for to get more confidence in that. Thanks.

Speaker 7

Yes. There are 2 things that usually drive Redemption requests. 1 is sort of the denominator effect and people needing the liquidity. And 2 is some folks I want to arbitrage the lag between the how quickly the public markets adjust And the backward looking appraisal process. In our experience in past downturns, The second has taken about 3 quarters to be fully reflected in appraisals.

Speaker 7

So we really don't want To disadvantage 1 group of investors, by the way, the vast majority of our investors, 95% of them, because a Couple of points of people want to arbitrage that difference. So we want to make sure the valuations are right Before those things transact, we think Europe has actually adjusted quicker than the U. S. And that's why we think there's maybe another quarter to go before Europe Fully adjust. So we're committed to taking care of those redemptions in the next quarter.

Speaker 7

And we think the U. S. May take another quarter to adjust and we'll take care of those in the second quarter. Here is what's important and people don't get about the structure of our funds. First of all, our leverage is in the low 20 So there is totals of liquidity in these funds to basically be able to handle Any redemption requests any reasonable redemption requests.

Speaker 7

And secondly, we started with a queue and So again, there are lots of sources for addressing those redemption requests. I think you should assume that redemptions that have been effective as of At the end of this quarter, we'll by and large be taken care of by the middle of the year and sooner in Europe. So You can model that math beyond that. Now I'll tell you one other thing, which is kind of interesting. Prologis could be a buyer up in these funds.

Speaker 7

And in fact, even in the global financial crisis where The old AMB was in a tighter spot with respect to leverage. We actually stepped up and bought On very attractive terms with adjusted values, a couple of $100,000,000 of real estate. And we actually offered it to our outside investors first And then we stepped in and bought it. And you know what, the next quarter all the redemptions went away because people realize that the people who know the most about this Portfolio are buyers at these prices. So it's really about getting the values right.

Speaker 7

And we started writing down These portfolios a quarter or 2 ago and our appraisal process is independent. We have nothing to do about it. And that's very, very different Ben, some of the redemption situations that we've all been reading about.

Operator

Thanks. Our next question comes from Camille Baumal with Bank of America. Please state your question.

Speaker 14

Hi, good morning. On your development guidance, can you give us some color on how much conservatism is built into your development starts? And also, you're expecting another year of strong stabilizations. What assumptions are you making in terms of timing of these projects? And Is any of the increase in guidance driven by projects from last year taking longer to complete due to longer construction timelines?

Speaker 5

This is Dan. Let me start with this year's development start guidance. We're coming off our largest year of starts ever. And just given the macro headlines, we decided to take a little bit more balanced approach where we slowed Our start is at the end of last year. We don't expect to start up in earnest until the last half of this year.

Speaker 5

We think the build to suit business will pick up at the same time. So call it conservatism, I call it discipline, And just feel really good about our approach given the volumes over the last year or 2. And then stabilizations next year, Stabilization this year, Tim mentioned it earlier, we think we can outperform What we have in the books right now, demand continues to be strong. We talked about the development starts Plummeting in the marketplace in the 4th quarter. We think they're going to be slower in the first half of the year.

Speaker 5

And we think that bodes well for absorption in the last half of this year into next year. So I feel very good about our guidance.

Speaker 7

Yes. There has not been a material delay in any of our construction projects If you look at them on an aggregated basis, so that is not that has not shifted stabilizations from 2022 23 or anything like that. Yes, I can't even think of an example that comes close. And even on the cost side, because we've been thoughtful about procurement and securing some of these tight supplies ahead of time, That's been actually something that we use as a competitive advantage in marketing to build to suits because we got a bunch of And we got a bunch of our conditioning units and electric panels and things that are in short supply already sitting in our warehouse waiting to be deployed into Our land bank. So, no, there's nothing funny going on about that.

Speaker 7

And by the way, the stabilizations are not just A function of completion of construction, but also leasing being stabilized at 90% or more. And that factor hasn't delayed stabilizations either. We've been leasing actually ahead of plan to this day. And I think we'll I expect to continue to do that.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from John Kim with BMO Capital Markets. Please state your question.

Speaker 15

Thank you.

Speaker 3

On the subject of Fund redemptions, there are some unlisted funds or non traded REITs, with a different leverage profile than yours, different investor base, That are seeing a significant amount of redemption requests. And I was wondering if you anticipate this will lead to increased asset sales on the block and Potentially some more opportunities for you on the acquisition side.

Speaker 7

I hope it does. I'm not optimistic that it will because If you look at even the denominator problems for most institutions and the fact that they generally have To reduce their exposure to real estate, they're likely not going to want to reduce exposure to industrial. So I think and with these most of the open end funds, where their mix, their different property The industrial is what's holding up their performance. So for them to dispose of those would put them in even a more difficult situation. So I don't think there will be a lot of forced sellers in industrial because to the extent that you're dealing with a leverage issue or liquidity issue, If you sell your highest yielding asset, you keep tightening the coverage and those around your neck.

Speaker 7

So As much as I'd like to, I don't think we'll see a lot of that. I think where we could see opportunities is actually within our own open end fund Availability is if the redemptions continue and we think the values are good. First, we'll offer that to all the 3rd party investors And then we'll step in and buy. And we like that real estate. We know it well and we operate it.

Speaker 7

And if it's priced right, we're all buyers. No problem.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from Michael Carroll with RBC. Please state your question.

Speaker 16

Yes, thanks. I guess, Hamed, I understand that PLD and the industrial space in general are pretty well positioned in the current environment despite the uncertainty. But is there anything that you're watching out for or any specific risks that you foresee for this space here in the next year plus or so?

Speaker 7

Yes. We are watching everything really carefully. I mean, I'm not believe me, we've been through enough cycles Enough weird things can happen that none of us predict that we want to be vigilant. That's why we're starting out the year with Very conservative assumptions and things that we can deliver. I mean, I think even on this basis, we're going to, I think, put up Unbelievably good numbers.

Speaker 7

I mean, who can think of almost double digit kind of returns or growth off of such Strong growth 14% per year, earnings growth consistently for the last 3 years. So I think the arrow is up. But yes, I mean, nobody predicted Putin going into Europe last year. It's usually the stuff that you don't You can't predict. I mean, am I worried about inflation really tanking our numbers?

Speaker 7

No. Am I really worried about recession Thanking our numbers, no. Am I worried about e commerce going out the window and people going back to shopping the old way without that percentage going up? No, I'm not worried about those things. But I am worried about things that I don't even know what to worry about.

Speaker 7

You get my drift there. Anyway, So yes, there's always bad stuff that can happen that are out of the realm of normal projections.

Operator

Our next question comes from Mike Mueller with JPMorgan. Please state your question.

Speaker 9

Yes. Hi. What are the anticipated yields for your

Speaker 5

This is Dan. The anticipated yields are actually up slightly, but Still in the low 6s and 6.1 ish, 6.2 ish.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Anthony Powell with Barclays. Please state your question.

Speaker 15

Hi, good morning. Question on utilization, which increased in the quarter. What drove that growth given all the headlines we see about port volumes were Declining and how big of a driver of the higher utilization is for your outlook for this year given the strong Your strong outlook this year.

Speaker 7

Yes. I don't think utilization actually moved that much. I mean, the peak utilization ever all time was 80 7%. And I think that one point is well within the sampling bias that can take place because It's not a perfect data set. It's a sample of a pretty large data set.

Speaker 7

So I don't think there's a meaningful trend Certainly not a decelerating trend in utilization. With respect to port volumes, I think port volumes are pretty meaningless In the last so really since COVID started because there were so many fits and starts Things being in the wrong place and all that. And yes, the West Coast ports have lower volumes today than they did before, but the East Coast And Gulf ports are getting a lot more volume than they did before. So on an aggregate basis, port volumes are just fine. And if you look at the lag That it takes too many empty containers on one side of the ocean and factories shutting down on the other side of the ocean and all that.

Speaker 7

I think until the market normalizes, you can't really draw any conclusions from port volumes. So I don't see any either one of those two trends affecting Demand, I guess, Chris, you want to?

Speaker 8

Yes, I'll just build on that by saying, 2 things are also happening. 1 is market vacancies in the U. S. Are 3.2%, 3.3% lower in Europe. That in its own right creates some pent up demand and so there's a need to push utilization within the facilities.

Speaker 8

And then second, look, inventories are up 15% on a year on year basis, on a nominal basis and 9%, 10% on a real basis. So there is Real structural demand lifting new demand as well as in place customers.

Speaker 7

Yes. Notwithstanding that increase in real inventories, We still think we're less than halfway towards equilibrium level of inventories, About 45% of the way there. So we think there's a lot of tailwind behind inventories too.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Blaine Heck with Wells Fargo. Please state your question.

Speaker 10

Great. Thanks. So related to that last question and, Naved, your comments on that progress towards equilibrium inventory, Can you just talk about your recent conversations with customers? What's your sense for how they're balancing this investment need and CapEx spend Against concerns about the economic slowdown or recession and higher overall cost of capital.

Speaker 7

Yes. I'll pitch it to Mike for more detailed comments on this. But my sense Is that customers are not don't have quite as much FOMO as they did before. In other words, they're not in the hoard mentality of let's We'll get the space because if we don't somebody else will and all that. I think that the market has rationalized With respect to pace of leasing demand and people are being more thoughtful about how they go about taking their taking space Because forget about what they pay us in rent.

Speaker 7

I mean, every time you open a new large warehouse, there's a lot of CapEx that goes into it and all that. Real estate is the least of your worries. It's all the other stuff that you have to put in. So I think people are cautious, but they also realize particularly on the e com side This was a theoretical threat before the COVID. Now they see what really happened to their business during COVID.

Speaker 7

So they're very anxious to build out their full e commerce supply chain, Which is oftentimes a different one than their bricks and mortar supply chain. So I would say demand has broadened. It's much less all about Amazon. It's much broader than that, but it's pretty strong. Is it the strongest it's ever been?

Speaker 7

No, it's not as strong as 2021. But compared to any 10 year period you want to look at, We would consider this a very strong market. Mike?

Speaker 2

Yes. I would just pile on. I mean, on a net basis, Activity is still very strong. Decision time lines definitely have stretched out and people are being more cautious. But remember, these structural Configurations we've been talking about for 2 or 3 years continue to march on, perhaps at a bit of a slower rate.

Speaker 2

But Ultimately, I think it comes down to the fear of not having the right space when you need it a year from now is overriding taking space just a little bit too early. So broadly, We feel pretty good about this overall activity.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Craig Mailman with Citi. Please state your question.

Speaker 4

Hey, guys. I just want to follow-up on these demand discussions because this is a constant question I get From clients here. And maybe it's more of a Chris question, those who need feel free to jump into. Just in terms of In this era of low vacancies where really there's nothing to lease, so net absorption is not necessarily the best Leading indicator of demand, I mean, what are you guys using at least to kind of use as your Forward looking indicator on demand destruction is something that the market could look to, because it just seems like Retentions are still high, availability is low, construction could fall off, but everyone is talking about inventories being higher, utilizations The higher people needing less of this space, but it's just from your commentary, it seems like this is not really filtering through What you guys are seeing and just some thoughts there then related to that, Chris, I mean, What would it take for market rents to actually turn negative? Because that's a question I get a lot as well.

Speaker 4

And I'm just kind of curious in your modeling, Kind of what inputs would have to really turn to get that from the positive 10% you're seeing to somewhere below 0?

Speaker 7

Okay. Let me start and I'm sure Chris can give much more color. I would state this, in 20 years of doing this, This is the biggest disconnect that I've seen between the macro economy and the prospects for our business. Usually those two things are much more aligned. And this time around, they're just appear to be completely disconnected For a variety of reasons that we talked about ad nauseam.

Speaker 7

So, I think where pricing goes away Vacancy is going to 7% to 8% and staying there. And if you do the math on that, You need another in the U. S, I don't know, 2,000,000,000, 3,000,000,000 square feet of Unleased construction coming online. And you can't do it overnight, maybe $1,000,000,000 something. We can do the math.

Speaker 7

But it's a big number. And you're not going to keep doing that if the first 100,000,000 feet doesn't lease, You're not going to do that. And by the way, this cycle, you have a couple of big players in the business that have much more to gain From the fundamentals of the business being stronger, rents being stronger, then a few bucks they may make on additional development. So there is an economic incentive to be disciplined. In prior cycles, mostly driven by merchant builders and private developers, They didn't really care what their rental market was.

Speaker 7

They just wanted to build the product and sell it to somebody else and that would be their problem. Today, those two sites Are connected to one another. So I think that the motivations are really different. And absent a nuclear war type of scenario, I just Don't see vacancy rates going to a level that will lead to a reduction in rents. It's either going to be a demand collapse Or a supply explosion and I don't see either one of them happening.

Speaker 7

The other thing I would say is that we are We lease a 1000000 Square Feet on a daily basis. Just let's get our heads around that, a 1000000 Square Feet On a daily basis, we throw these big numbers around without really fully appreciating what the scale of that is. I mean, that is 10x the amount of space anybody else leases in any sector in real estate. So by watching these customers and their behavior, Obviously, we'll figure out if some bad stuff is about to happen, and won't be waiting for

Speaker 8

the quarterly report to analyze that. So Chris, do you have specifics? Yes, a couple of specifics. I would lead with our proprietary data leads us to these conclusions. So for example, Our sales force pipeline, if we look at the vacancy that we do have, 46% has deals working.

Speaker 8

That's in line or above the average that we've experienced through COVID To say nothing of the conversations that Mike and Scott and our customer led solutions team have. In terms of public data, which I think I heard you ask about, Craig, We do publish our IBI survey and our utilization data and so figures like 60 on our IBI, it's a diffusion index. So that's consistent With this good or great tone that the team has struck and 86% on utilization, which was discussed earlier, are ways that you can see that in the marketplace. And then as it relates to what it would take for rents to fall, Hamid described it very specifically. And I'd add one piece of data that I don't see commonly discussed in the marketplace, but it's important to know, which is development starts rather than development completions.

Speaker 8

Starts in the U. S. Were off by a 3rd in the 4th quarter relative to their 2022 trend. And on the continent in Europe, they were off by 45%. So we're seeing a sharp marking to market of the capital market environment, the valuation environment and what those buildings might be worth for some of those other folks building buildings.

Speaker 7

By the way, banks are a lot more disciplined because now they have risk based capital requirements. So putting out a lot of construction loans on buildings that don't lease like used to happen in prior cycles, less likely to happen. So I think the market is generally smarter. There's a lot more data. Conversations like we're having today never used to take place 2 decades ago.

Speaker 7

So the cycles were much more Amplify. I think it's pretty hard for that to happen, but something can come out of left field. I'm not discounting that possibility. Something really bad could come out of left field and change all this, but I just can't think of what that thing would be. But none of us predicted the pandemic, I don't think.

Speaker 7

So, things can happen.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Vince Tibone with Green Street. Please state your question.

Speaker 10

Hi. Thanks for taking my follow-up. I just wanted to get any color on recent market rent growth and how that may differ between suite size? Like are you seeing any differences in performance between both buildings and smaller more installed facilities?

Speaker 7

I would generally tell you that the smaller spaces are having a tougher time to the extent that anybody is having a tougher time. But Chris is looking up the specifics. They're not radically different, but why don't we do this? Why don't we go to the next you got it? Okay.

Speaker 7

Yes.

Speaker 8

Hey, no, glad to help you out here. First off, market rent growth had great momentum at the end of the year with 5% growth in the U. S, 3% in Europe. When we look at rent change, which is a great way to understand performance in suite size, it's strong across the board. But in fact, late in the year, we saw an improvement in those smaller units, which might be where your question is coming from.

Speaker 7

So it's diverse. Okay. That's different than I would have guessed. And I bet you it's because there was more available space to absorb in those categories. Those categories were less leased.

Speaker 7

And by the way, we have them too. I mean, we have some smaller than 100,000 square foot units. So I would say occupancy was a little bit lower, so there was more room to lease product at the higher end.

Speaker 8

If we flip it to submarkets and we look at, say, infill, which tend to have those smaller units, infill outperformed in the U. S. By 400 basis points Last year, so say 34% in the U. S. In the infill submarkets versus 30% for the whole of the United States.

Operator

And our next question comes from Jamie Feldman with Wells Fargo. Please state your question.

Speaker 3

Great. Thank you. Just a quick follow-up from Blaine and myself. So where do you expect to make the most progress on the Essentials business in 2023? And how does that factor into your guidance and earnings?

Speaker 3

And then also if you could just say where you think cap rates are today versus the peak of the cycle, how much they've moved? Thank you.

Speaker 7

So two things. I think the Essentials business, in terms of percentage growth, I think our mobility business would be the biggest because it's the smallest right now to start with. So any growth will be the biggest. But in terms of dollar contribution, I would say solar and storage are coming on the strongest today, and operations is a close second behind. I'll pitch it to Gary if he has any More to say about that after this.

Speaker 7

Second part of the question was, oh, cap rates. So cap rates are really misleading. So we got to be careful about that. Cap rates at market, assuming that you had a building a year and a half ago, ad market and You have a building ad market today. I would guess it's 50 to 75 basis points, maybe 100 basis points, okay?

Speaker 7

It's call it 50 to 100 basis points. But you've had all this rental growth in between. So the observed cap rate for the same building this versus last year with rents that are higher by, I don't know, 10%, 15% or something, would not have moved as much. So And if you get into weird situations like some building that was leased 5 years ago and it comes on the market, and it's And the in place rent is less than half of what market is. That building could have a lower cap rate than it would have had a year ago.

Speaker 7

IRR is what's really important based on reasonable assumptions. And my guess is that if I were going to pick a number, I would say Low to low 7, 7.25ish in the U. S. And maybe a little bit lower than that in Europe With growth of say 4 ish percent across the 10 year projection, something like that approximately. Gary, anything on

Speaker 9

I think you hit exactly, Andy. In 2023, our mix is going to be about 50% operations and about 50% Energy and Mobility. The growth rate, obviously, Mobility is going to be much higher because it's coming off of basically a zero base. Where are we investing? We're investing in our energy and mobility businesses and that's where we're proving the capability because that's where we see the most significant growth over 'twenty five and beyond.

Speaker 9

But I mean just to put a sort of stake in this, we are very, very convicted about the potential for these businesses. We're on track to generate our $300,000,000 in revenues and tax benefits by 2025, which we've talked about before, And that is going to deliver about $0.25 per share in FFO. And that would be a little bit above That will be about 100 basis points of growth per year compared to our 2019 Investor Day estimates of about 50 basis points. So net net look, we are in great shape. That business is growing right on plan and we're going to continue to make investments in that business and this year it's going to be in mobility and energy.

Speaker 7

By the way, that 2025 number that Gary just mentioned is going to be capturing maybe 15%, 20% of the total opportunity within our portfolio. So there'll be a huge runway for growth. And frankly, we're beginning to see more deals out of our own platform Because customers are taking us to buildings that they lease from other people to do the same level of Service to them in those other situations. So I can't even begin to quantify that out of platform opportunity. So we're really excited about Our Essentials business.

Speaker 7

Okay. I think we're at the top of the hour. I know we have one more Question, but maybe we can take that outside the call, Anthony, with our apologies. But thank you for your interest in the company, and we look forward Thank you. Next quarter.

Speaker 7

Take care.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference. All parties may disconnect.

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