Lumen Technologies Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 2, 2023

There are 13 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Lumen Technologies First Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen only mode. Afterwards, we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded Tuesday, May 2, 2023. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mike McCormack, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Darcy. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining Lumen Technologies' Q1 2023 earnings call. On the call today are Kate Johnson, President and Chief Executive Officer and Chris Stansbury, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I need to call your attention to our Safe Harbor statement on Slide 2 of our Q1 2023 presentation, which notes that this conference call may include forward looking statements subject to certain risks and uncertainties. All forward looking statements should be considered in conjunction with the cautionary statements on Slide 2 and the risk factors in our SEC filings.

Speaker 1

We will be referring to certain non GAAP financial measures reconciled to the most comparable GAAP measures, which can be found in our earnings press release. In addition, certain metrics discussed today exclude costs for special items as detailed in our earnings materials, which can be found on the Investor Relations section of the Luma website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Kate.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Mike. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. Before I turn the call over to Chris to discuss our Q1 results, I want to give you an update on our company's turnaround plans. As I shared on our last call, we've established a new mission for Lumin to digitally connect people, data and applications quickly, securely and effortlessly. We assembled a new executive leadership team and created 5 core priorities for the company.

Speaker 2

We then set financial expectations that included the funding of a portfolio of Change programs to deliver on our revenue and EBITDA stability goals. It's still early days in our transformation journey. We're staffing up the change programs with the right talent. We're standing up an agile project framework to standardize how work gets done and we're implementing business analytics across the company to help drive These things are the basic scaffolding needed to support our transformation efforts. Now that said, in addition to an improved revenue story this quarter, We're seeing green shoots of progress in several areas.

Speaker 2

I'll share some of the leading indicators with you now aligned to our core priorities. I'll start with the first two priorities to develop company wide customer obsession and to invest and innovate for growth. Obviously, these priorities go hand in hand. We're immersing ourselves in our customer challenges and using that proximity to guide our innovation investment decisions. It's helping us pivot to an outside in mindset and accelerating our speed to market.

Speaker 2

We already have an in market example of high value innovation using this new approach. On April 20, we launched Lumen SASE with Rapid Threat Defense, our company's proprietary threat detection and remediation platform powered by our very own Black Lotus Labs. Now you might be asking, why is this innovation example interesting? Because we sat side by side with customers and heard their feedback loudly and clearly. They have enough threat detection reports.

Speaker 2

What they want, what they need is an automated threat detection and remediation capability. So with Lumen's intellectual property, we co innovated with our partner Fortinet to leapfrog traditional threat protection offerings. And from concept to commercialization, it took just a few short months. In enterprise customers like Hewlett Zollars, a full service multi disciplined design firm with extensive construction management expertise, they're seeing the value. We call this new VC style approach to innovation, the Lumin Growth Operating System or the Growth OS for short.

Speaker 2

And it's not only helping us become more customer focused, but it's also driving tighter alignment with important ecosystem partners, while uncovering net new problem spaces where Lumen's proprietary gifts can drive value. For example, we're excited to announce that we're partnering with Microsoft using tools like digital twins and large scale 3 d environments that need edge to cloud capabilities to support next gen operations. Together, Microsoft and Lumin are collaborating with great companies like Sunbelt, a global leader in the equipment rental industry to solve complex business problems ranging from emergency response and supply chain management to fleet optimization and environmental risk assessment. Our partners and customers alike see the value of our network, security and edge compute capabilities and even more, They're recognizing and enjoying our appetite to co innovate. Building reliable execution engine in both mass markets and enterprise is another core priority Here too, we see several positive indicators of progress on our path to growth.

Speaker 2

Let's start with enterprise. You may recall that beginning in January of 2023, we changed our sales incentive plan to drive a laser focus on growth. In the Q1, we outperformed our internal revenue target for Gro products with strength in IP, Wavelength, SASE, Managed Security and UC and C. It's clear, when we focus, we win. At the start of the new year, we established a dedicated mid market sales team, augmenting both direct and indirect selling resources to drive new logo acquisition.

Speaker 2

And in Q1, new logo adds were up 5% sequentially. And importantly, these new customers have about 30% higher sales value than the new customer cohort added in the prior quarter. Now to stem organic customer churn and revenue decline in legacy voice products, We established a dedicated outbound calling team to migrate customers to modern UCNC platforms, paired with Lumin Network offerings, of course. Early results show that strategic migrations of these legacy customers increase the average spend by about 10%, reduces risk of churn and gives Lumin a modern platform through which we can continue to upsell next gen offerings. The powerful combination of customer obsession and focused go to market execution is really starting to bear fruit.

Speaker 2

We have several recent wins with customers like Byline Bank, ProLiant Surgeons and Iheartmedia, all of whom trust Lumin with their mission critical applications as they seek to modernize through digital transformation. Now we recognize that we have a lot of work to do on our enterprise sales execution. Over the next few quarters, You'll see us continue to galvanize our sales readiness programs, refuel our digital marketing campaigns and refine our analytics driven sales platform and upscale our talent across our field organizations. I'm going to turn to mass markets next. As you know, we did a reassessment of our Quantum Fiber build out plan during the Q4 of last year.

Speaker 2

We pivoted away from focusing on counting enabled locations And instead, we're targeting locations that have the greatest potential for penetration. This move required significant business process and planning changes, but will deliver superior returns for our shareholders. Our fiber build factory is now up and running fast with planning yields approaching 90%, up from as low as 10% last year. In the Q1 of 2023, We saw net enablement growth accelerate with March enablement eclipsing January enablement by more than double. This gives us confidence that we'll meet or exceed our 2023 enablement target of 500,000 locations.

Speaker 2

What's more, Fiber installs have exceeded copper installs this quarter and that gap should widen accelerating fiber subscriber growth and revenue growth going forward. We're proud to share that our fiber customers, the majority of whom choose our 1 gig offering, are enjoying Quantum's world class experience, driving a net promoter score of above positive 60. Look, I hope these impressive execution results make it clear that the Quantum Fiber business is core to our strategy. You're going to see us continue to lean in hard as we ramp our build pace and increase our subscriber adds moving forward. Our priority to radically simplify Lumin, it comes in many forms from rationalizing IT applications to reducing SKUs in our product portfolio and so much more.

Speaker 2

We're making material progress on this key priority, which will not only help reduce cost, but will also be the foundation for how we create quick, First, we established an evergreen program called the Stop List, where our 29,000 employees can share ideas for driving simplification by shutting down business practices that don't seem to add value or align to our strategy. And so far, we've shut down 45 non value added processes, saving the company about 120,000 people hours and removing tens of 1,000,000 of dollars of operating costs, which we're now redeploying to support our growth agenda. Next, we've made great progress in dramatically simplifying our product portfolio. We started the year with more than 12,000 enterprise SKUs and retired more than 60% of them so far just by eliminating legacy products. This simplification positions us well to reduce our enterprise ordering systems from 10 systems down to 3, which will dramatically improve our billing accuracy.

Speaker 2

It's going to reduce customer care costs and of course it's going to improve customer experience overall. There are just so many more examples of simplification at Lumin Such as unifying the company onto one communication platform down from 5 or upgrading our ERP system to reduce our bespoke and complicated business processes. Our simplification agenda is aggressive and it's going to yield material results and I'll continue to share progress with you throughout the year. Okay. Finally, I've been very, very public about our core priority to rebuild this company starting with our greatest asset, our people.

Speaker 2

We're building a culture based on team trust and transparency, one that celebrates clarity, customer obsession, a growth mindset Encourage, basically one that enables change. We have a lot of progress to share in this space. 1st, Loomis being recognized by the industry for several reasons. In the past few months, we were named as one of America's most trustworthy companies. We were recognized for championing diversity and we were celebrated for excellence in providing employees with remote work flexibility.

Speaker 2

2nd, we're making bold investments that demonstrate our commitment to building a diverse and inclusive company. Over the past 90 days, we launched initiatives to revamp our performance management systems, systematize courageous leadership skill building and drive greater transparency and remediation of pay disparities with the Pay Equity platform Syndeo. You take the industry recognition and the people investments I just described, they seem to be paying off. We're seeing lower employee turnover, higher engagement within our workforce and more outside interest in joining the Lumin team. In fact, We've had a greater than threefold increase in employment applications year over year.

Speaker 2

It's clear that we're building a company and a culture that people really want to be a part of. And I'm so proud of the team for making such material progress across all of our priorities in such a short period of time. And with that, I'm going to turn the call over to Chris to discuss our Q1 results. Chris?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Kate, and good afternoon, everyone. As Kate described, this is a year of rapid change at Lumin. We're aggressively upgrading systems, processes and our culture as we seek to modernize Lumin to win in the marketplace and return Lumen to growth. While it's early on our journey, we are pleased with the improvements we're starting to see. A specific call out is a significant improvement we're seeing in our mass markets where our quantum reassessment period allowed us to adjust our plan and as we move forward is proving to have been an excellent decision.

Speaker 3

As Kate said, we're back and running fast. Before moving on to our Q1 results, I'd like to discuss a few actions we've taken to strengthen our balance sheet to position our company to return to growth. In mid March, we announced an exchange offer for Lumin Senior Notes. This deleveraging action was a win win. During Q1, we reduced our principal debt balance by $620,000,000 and Lumin senior noteholders that participated in the exchange received a higher coupon as well as secured debt in the Level 3 silo.

Speaker 3

In the first quarter exchange transactions, we issued $915,000,000 of Level 3 And Lumen's annual interest expense remains relatively unchanged. This exchange combined with the expected proceeds from the EMEA transaction will allow us to focus on executing against our 2 year turnaround plan, which we expect will return Lumin to growth. We With that, I'll discuss the financial summary of our Q1. This quarter, we have expanded our reporting to include grow, nurture, harvest and other by business channel. This structure includes a subtotal with Grow, Nurture and Harvest, getting visibility to our primary focus within the business channel results, excluding other.

Speaker 3

As a reminder, the other category revenue includes equipment and IT solutions, which tend to experience fluctuations due to the variable nature of these products. Additionally, beginning this quarter And to better align with recent updates to the SEC's Reg G compliance and disclosure interpretations, we will no longer report revenue, adjusted EBITDA, Adjusted EBITDA margin or CapEx on a modified basis, which excludes the impacts of our divested businesses as well as CAF II within historical periods. Instead, we will provide supplemental information on these discrete impacts as footnotes, were applicable in our earnings presentation and a separate page in our financial training schedule. Accordingly, on this call, I will reference our financial performance primarily on a sequential basis for better comparability and to provide color on the impact that CAF II, The divestitures and commercial agreements had on select year over year results. It's important to note that excluding the impacts we have provided, Our year over year growth rates are substantially better than the reported rates and are showing improvement in key areas.

Speaker 3

Our Q1 total revenue declined 1.6 percent on a sequential basis to $3,730,000,000 Adjusted EBITDA was $1,251,000,000 in the 1st quarter with a 33.5% margin. Free cash flow was negative $75,000,000 in the Q1, including $90,000,000 of taxes paid related to our Two divestitures in 2022. We now expect total transaction related taxes of around $1,000,000,000 with the majority of the balance being paid in the Q2 of this year from cash on hand. We reduced net debt by $582,000,000 during the Q1. Next, I'll review our detailed revenue results for the quarter.

Speaker 3

Reported revenue was down 20.1% with the impact of CAF II, The divestitures and commercial agreements representing approximately 80% of the reported decline. Within our 2 key segments, Business revenue declined 1.6 percent sequentially to $2,956,000,000 Mass Markets revenue also declined 1.6% sequentially to $782,000,000 Business revenue declined 13.1% on a year over year basis with the impact of the divestitures and commercial agreements representing approximately 3 quarters of the reported decline. Mass markets revenue declined 38.7% on a year over year basis, with the impact of CAF II and the divestiture impact representing approximately 86% of the reported decline. Within our enterprise channels, which is our business segment excluding wholesale, revenue declined 1.4% sequentially. Our exposure to legacy voice revenue continues to improve and is now approximately 11% of enterprise channel revenue and is down approximately 50 basis points sequentially.

Speaker 3

Large enterprise revenue declined 1.9% sequentially in the 1st quarter. Large enterprise revenue trends improved year over year when excluding the impact of divested businesses driven primarily by IP and colocation. Public sector revenue declined 0.2% sequentially. Excluding the impacts of our divested businesses, public sector improved significantly from the year over year decline last quarter on the same basis. As you know, we've had major wins in this channel over the last 2 years and those wins are ramping up in revenue.

Speaker 3

You may have also seen our recent U. S. Defense Information Systems $223,000,000 contract win for providing modern hybrid cloud voice and conferencing services. Our partnership with the public sector is strong and we appreciate the confidence these entities have in Lumin and our significant capabilities to deliver these mission critical solutions. Mid market revenue declined 1.3% sequentially.

Speaker 3

Excluding the impacts of our divested businesses, there was a similar level of year over year decline compared to last quarter. Strength in IP This is a channel that will continue to decline over time and one we manage for cash. Moving to our business product lifecycle reporting. Gro Pot Products revenue grew 3.4% sequentially. Importantly, if we exclude the impacts of our divested businesses, This quarter's results showed significant improvement in year over year growth at close to double the quarterly sequential growth rate.

Speaker 3

While this level of improvement may not be linear as we move forward, we expect continued strength in this area as we execute on our overall pivot to growth. The Gro category now represents approximately 38% of our business segment and carried an approximate 83% direct margin this quarter. For added color, Gro Products represented 58% of our enterprise sales in the Q1, an improvement from 4Q 2022. Getting the Grow product category to grow faster is a key focus of our strategy and we're pleased with these early results. Nurture products revenue declined 3.1% sequentially driven by VPN and Ethernet.

Speaker 3

We will likely face headwinds Within both the Nurture and Harvest product categories, as we actively work to maintain customer relationships and maximize customer lifetime value by migrating customers to newer technology solutions. Nurture now represents about 31% of our business segment and carried in Approximate 65 percent direct margin this quarter. Harvest Products revenue declined 4.9% sequentially. As with Nurture, we will see headwinds in this category as we pivot customers to newer technologies with a significant focus on voice migration. Our Harvest team continues to manage these products both by extending the life of some products, while also managing customers back to grow products.

Speaker 3

Recall that Harvest is an important part of our business and generates cash to fuel our growth initiatives. Harvest now represents approximately 25% of our business segment And carried in approximate 78% direct margin this quarter. Other products revenue declined 9.4% sequentially. As I mentioned earlier, our other product revenue tends to experience fluctuations due to the variable nature of these products. Moving on to mass markets, revenue declined 1.6% sequentially.

Speaker 3

Our mass markets fiber broadband revenue grew 2.7% sequentially and represented approximately 29% of mass markets broadband revenue. Also note that our exposure to legacy voice and other services revenue Continues to improve with a nearly 60 basis point reduction sequentially. During the quarter, total fiber broadband enablements were approximately 120,000, Bringing the total fiber enabled locations to approximately 3,300,000 as of March 31. We had a strong ramp in fiber enablements during the quarter. And as Kate mentioned, we are confident in our ability to meet or exceed our 500,000 new enabled locations target for 2023.

Speaker 3

We expect to continue ramping this build pace in 2024 and look forward to sharing a longer term view at our Investor Day on June 5. In the Q1, we added 24,000 Quantum Fiber customers. This brings our total Quantum Fiber subscribers to 856,000. As Kate noted, we are ramping quickly with enablement and subscriber momentum building. Our installs of fiber broadband customers exceeded our copper installs, a trend that we expect to continue to widen going forward.

Speaker 3

Fiber ARPU was approximately $60 in the Q1 and we see ARPU expansion opportunities With the adoption of in home Wi Fi solutions, up tiering, enterprise grade security solutions and our recently launched multi gig offerings Delivering up to 8 gig symmetric services. The plant we are building is capable of further cost effective multi gig speed enhancements going forward. As of March 31, our penetration of legacy copper broadband was less than 12%, highlighting the significant share taking opportunity As we accelerate the Quantum Fiber build, our Quantum Fiber penetration stood at approximately 26%. And as we expand our footprint, Many investors have asked about competing fiber activity. What we are typically seeing is activity on the distant fringes of our core growth markets.

Speaker 3

Our 6 core metros are hard markets to build out. Zoning and permitting hurdles as well as the underground network infrastructure in these markets, which carries a higher build cost per location, may make other regions more appealing to competitors. While we took a small risk with our quantum reevaluation phase, We do not see any meaningful change in competitive activity during that short window. As our enablement and subscriber results this quarter demonstrate, we are now focused on accelerating our deployment of fiber enabled locations and adding subscribers. Our Quantum Fiber 2020 vintage frozen penetration is now above 30%, and we will provide an update next quarter With our 18 month penetration rate of the 2021 vintage, our Quantum Fiber NPS score is now greater than positive 60, An indication of the quality, value and superior service that Quantum Fiber delivers.

Speaker 3

Quantum Fiber is an all digital, multi gig capable, prepaid product that features simple pricing with no contracts, helping reduce call center volumes and supporting our very strong NPS scores. We continue to experience no discernible change in customer payment patterns. Turning to adjusted EBITDA for the Q1 of 2023, Adjusted EBITDA was $1,251,000,000 compared to $1,966,000,000 in the year ago quarter. The Q1 of last year included $415,000,000 related to the divested businesses and $59,000,000 for CAF II. And the Q1 of this year included a negative impact of $48,000,000 from divestiture related commercial agreements.

Speaker 3

These items represent roughly 3 quarters of the year over year decline. As we discussed in our Q4 2022 earnings call, EBITDA will be pressured from a year over year perspective based on higher inflationary impacts, the synergies from divested businesses, Investments in growth and optimization initiatives and the impact of customer migrations as we focus on improving our customer experience with newer technologies and enhancing customer lifetime value. We incorporated these impacts into our annual guidance and are not changing those assumptions. Special items impacting adjusted EBITDA this quarter totaled $114,000,000 Our Q1 2023 adjusted EBITDA margin, excluding special items was 33.5%. Capital expenditures for the Q1 of 2023 were $640,000,000 In the Q1 of 2023, the company generated free cash flow of negative $75,000,000 As previously noted, this includes $90,000,000 of taxes related to our 2 divestitures that closed last year.

Speaker 3

Our reported net debt was $18,876,000,000 Moving on to our 2023 financial outlook. As a result of the debt exchange offer I discussed earlier, we now In closing, our team remains focused on executing on our growth initiatives to drive long term profitable revenue growth. We look forward to sharing more about our strategy and our path to growth with you at our Investor Day on June 5. With that, we're ready for your questions.

Operator

Thank you very much. You will hear a 3 tone prompt to acknowledge your request. And our first question comes from the line of Simon Flannery with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you very much. Good evening. Kate, I wonder if you could talk a little bit about your conversations with the customers and how that's changed over the A few months since you've taken over and perhaps how they're thinking about optimizing their spend in light of the uncertain macro environment. It sounded like payment is timing, is that still kind of right at the end of the year at the start of next year?

Speaker 4

And any updates on any other potential transactions? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Hi, Simon. Thanks for the question. So with respect to what CIOs are saying, it is a complicated environment for sure, But that represents a huge opportunity, particularly when you're sort of sitting down side by side with customers to innovate to solve their greatest business challenges. So They want us to help them deliver cost effective, reliable core operations. They want us to help them To chase after, I think, where the real business opportunities are.

Speaker 2

Obviously, there's a big story forming in AI and machine learning. There's an enormous set of opportunities in the metaverse where people are sort of doing This 3 d rendering and it consumes a huge amount of data and requires zero latency. All of the companies that we're talking with are thinking like that. And it's these ecosystem partnerships that combine our capabilities, with the depth and breadth of other software companies that I think is really resonating. Most importantly, we're showing up and we're asking them to co create a partner and that's new.

Speaker 2

And it's received with a giant smile ear to ear. So Chris, do you want to dig in?

Speaker 3

Yes. So on the EMEA transaction, Simon, everything is on schedule, as anticipated, no speed bumps. And we still expect that to close late this year or early next year. And just as a reminder, we'll use the proceeds From that transaction to reduce debt.

Speaker 4

And anything else that you're looking at real estate sales or anything else that

Speaker 3

Mike, we continue to prune the portfolio. We're prudent. We've embraced the hybrid work environment and have announced that we're selling our Broomfield campus. It's underutilized even if everybody showed up that was assigned to this facility. So like a lot of other companies, we're going to monetize that.

Speaker 3

There's other real estate that we'll be closing on later this year as well that has been in the work for a few years. As it relates to other business lines, We continue to look at options as to whether we harvest or we sell, but don't expect Big moves from those kinds of things. That's more of a pruning exercise than any kind of a major restructuring of any kind.

Speaker 4

Great. And just one follow-up on Kate on your comments. In the past, management's talked about delayed decision making. Have you noted any Changes in the kind of time it takes from customers to actually get a contract signed?

Speaker 2

There hasn't been a material change. I think what we're really thinking about is how do we show the value, how do we position our capabilities such that it cuts through any additional approval processes that The global macroeconomic environment might have been pushing on over the past 18 months or 2 years.

Speaker 4

Great. Very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Simon. Sarah, next question please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Rollins with Citi. You may proceed.

Speaker 5

Thanks and good afternoon. Two topics if I could. First, On the sales front, just curious with all the locations that you passed and that your fiber is near, Is there a quantification of the low hanging fruit of customer opportunities in terms of size or Revenue opportunity. And then secondly, as you look at the EBITDA performance for the quarter versus the year, Can you frame the potential cost or the revenue dilution over the next few quarters that is there 1 or 2 quarters in particular that Takes the annualized number for 1Q and puts you back into the range for the full year guidance? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Michael, I'll take the first one on sales and I'll let Chris hit the second one. From a sales productivity perspective, Putting the right field force in the right locations is obviously incredibly important. What we're doing is over time, we're sort of thinking through what business outcomes do customers want to chase aligned to their particular industry or vertical. And that's really I think where the story is. It's like, okay, how can we stitch together our unique capabilities across Networking, Edge, Cloud and Security to show up in solutions that matter most to customers depending on not just where they're located, But that obviously is deeply connected to our edge capabilities, but that covers 98% of businesses.

Speaker 2

So I think we've got ubiquity there. It's really about the outcomes aligned to their business models.

Operator

Chris?

Speaker 3

Yes. And on the Just the OpEx trend through the year, I mean, obviously, as we entered the year and we gave the guidance and we talked about the investments that we're going to be making to position Lumin for success, we weren't at run rate when we came into the year. So that will be building as we go through the year. And that's why that spend level was a little lower in Q1.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thanks Mike. Thursday, next question please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Philip Cusick with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Hi, guys. Thank you. A couple if I can. I appreciate the detail, Chris, on the grow, nurture, harvest Buckets in the commentary and on Page 7, and I will go back and read it a few times, so I understand it. In the meantime, what can you add on Recent trends in sales and funnel and things like that.

Speaker 6

And when do you expect we'll see these improvements to come through in the net revenue trends? And then second, if you could just talk about any further debt swaps from here or are you sort of done with that, that would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes, I mean, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we're pleased with what we're seeing in the grow category. There's obviously a lot of work Around how we migrate customers from legacy technologies to newer technologies. But I do think, Phil, that things will ebb and flow. As it relates to Additional metrics behind it, we're not prepared to really talk about that yet today. We will, At our Investor Day, talk about operational metrics that we can provide on an ongoing basis To give you guys better visibility to where we are on this journey, but again, so far so good.

Speaker 3

As it relates To the capital structure side of things, there's a lot of options and we continue to evaluate those. It obviously is a dynamic environment externally. And so we're certainly not finished, But there's nothing that's firm right now and obviously as we firm those things up, we'll keep everybody apprised.

Speaker 6

Maybe if I can ask the first one a little bit in a different way. The grow bucket, 3.4% growth in the Q1 quarter to quarter In the grow bucket, how much of that do you think is attributable to new efforts or new products that are being Push, is this sort of a revitalized sales effort? I don't know if this is sort of a seasonal impact, it's typical anyway. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Okay. So I'll take that one. Basically, as I said in my opening remarks, we have a ton of work To galvanize our enterprise selling machine. That's everything from sales running this program, digital marketing campaigns, making sure that we're driving analytics and sort of like what's the next best thing to do on our sales platform and it's upskilling our talent across the field organization. If you think about that, we've already started doing that and we're seeing improvements in I talked about Some mid market green shoots have talked about some enterprise, large enterprise green shoots where we're seeing more funnel, we're seeing Bigger deal sizes, etcetera, but we're not where we need to be.

Speaker 2

And if I anchored ourselves in the goal, it would to be executing at We're better than market in every one of the product categories.

Speaker 6

Thanks very much.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Bill. Cersei, next question please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of David Barden with Bank of America. I

Speaker 7

guess first, Kate, is he kind of start tackling this opportunity to pursue Solutions and be a partner for your customers, the ways that you accomplish that, Presuming that there were just things on the shelf you weren't already selling, you've got to add arrows to the quiver. And One way is to develop applications internally, another way is to buy companies with those capabilities or Hire people those capabilities and other ways to wholesale those opportunities, but all of those come with higher expense and complications and their own complexities. So I was wondering if you could kind of elaborate a little bit about how you go from The company that this was a year ago or even 6 months ago to the company that you want it to be and how does it Look and how does that incremental revenue dollar from solving people's problems come in at some healthy incremental margin? And then along those lines, if I could, Chris, just on this margin direct margin breakdown that you've shared. In the harvest bucket, it seems that if what you're losing predominantly is the voice dollar that Seems like we'd be going away at 100% margin.

Speaker 7

But if you I think you were saying 58% of the new sales are coming in the growth bucket. The growth bucket is to my the question I'm asking Kate, it's coming with a lot more baggage and stuff that goes along with it, which seems to be A lot lower margin at the increment. So for every one harvest dollar you lose, how many growth dollars do we need to kind of fill that EBITDA bucket? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Okay. Let me start with your question and I'm going to say it was there was A lot to it, David. So I'd like to just sort of give you my simple answer, which is we have a 3 pronged strategy. Number 1, we're going to stem organic decline. That's like VPN to SASE and voice migration efforts.

Speaker 2

And I can talk a little bit more about what that looks like under the hood Number 2, we're going to better execute against the core and that's where we're going to hit or exceed market growth rates and things like IP waves and Ethernet, in the grow bucket. And then we're going to innovate for growth. And that's both commercializing the things that are on the truck today, which we are under commercialized, period. We just don't flex our muscles in a way that we can and should. And you'll see us doing that more and more.

Speaker 2

We're also going to collaborate with partners and customers to create net new capabilities, obviously, leveraging our proprietary gifts and security and the edge and the network. And then there's the third thing that is basically the main lever for creating operating leverage, which is network as a service or NAS, which is where we digitize everything, okay? So 3 legs of the stool, stem organic decline, better execute on the core and innovate for growth. When you talk about sitting with customers and reshaping the company to actually follow the dollars, which tend to stem out of Complex business problems that our customers are trying to solve, they need the capabilities that we have and their need to consume data is just going to increase. The more we can digitize our physical assets and bring those capabilities to bear In all of the existing and net new business problems, the more you'll see Lumion being recognized as not just customer obsessed, but a very innovative How we afford that?

Speaker 2

All the things I said, we're simplifying, we're driving a digital enterprise, we're getting rid of the stuff that doesn't make sense, We're optimizing for not just for efficiency, we're optimizing for growth, right? So let's talk about your question to Chris and then Chris, I'll ask you to add comments. If we're cannibalizing ourselves, which I think is what you're asking about in the harvest bucket, we've got cash coming off of those products. Why would you actually Go after those customers and I come from tech, right. So I'm new to telecom.

Speaker 2

So this is sort of mind blowing for me to think about this notion of not touching anything Because the whole idea of customer lifecycle management is how you increase the value of a customer relationship And so if we do nothing, those customers will churn. So we go from 100 pennies to 0. We could go after them and do a one for 1 product swap. And yes, some of the newer technologies might result in less margin, but that's not how we're thinking about it. We go after them to get them to net new technologies to modernize their businesses.

Speaker 2

And we think about it from the perspective of maintaining the customer relationship and maintaining the customer data, understanding how they behave and upselling them in our IP and 3rd party IP. And net net, I think what we're finding and it's Extremely early in this process, so we don't have all of the tricks yet. But what we're finding is that there's an opportunity up here to increase all of those revenue and EBITDA flows. Chris, do you have anything to add?

Speaker 3

No. I mean, I think Kate Explain that as well as it could be explained, David. I think the key thing is and I've been asked this question a lot obviously at conferences. It's not an either or scenario. It's not this either or scenario up, you either get to keep the legacy voice customer and milk it for as long as you can.

Speaker 3

And then the alternative is just a low margin replacement. It really is this bundle and by the way, then there's a tomorrow with a customer and a day after that and a day after that. And it's a very different way of thinking about the Based on what I think people are normally accustomed to out of telecom. So that's what we're trying to do here.

Speaker 7

All right, great. Thank you so much, Kate. Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Thanks,

Speaker 1

David. Cersei, next question please.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Batya Levi with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 8

Thanks. Just a follow-up on that point. Actually, can you talk a little bit more about why the direct margins are above harvest where you're running it for cash and what's driving that upside? And also maybe a little bit more Specific for the quarter, but what drove the pickup in the growth bucket in the quarter? Are there any sort of shift From the nurture bucket that we should think about as clients take hybrid products.

Speaker 8

And if you could elaborate a bit on the pricing in the segments And any change in who you compete with as you change the approach in this category? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes, I would say thanks, Batya. I would say that, I mean, let's start with something we talked about last quarter, which is we changed Our incentive structure with the sales team, so that they are incented to drive more growth product And become less dependent on legacy revenues that we know will churn as Kate just said. So that's something that's going to continue I think to put the focus where the focus needs to be. When you look at the margins, yes, Legacy voice, obviously very high margin. Also, there's a lot of cost in that, right?

Speaker 3

You've got some heavy Net X Around maintenance and whatnot. And when you think about newer technologies like IP and WAVs, once you put the capital in the ground, those are extremely, extremely efficient to run. And then on top of that, obviously, as we sell security services, namely, as Kate mentioned in her prepared remarks, With some of the Lumin IP sprinkled on top, that allows us to drive margin as well. So High level, that's a response. But specifically, as it relates to products in the quarter, we said IP and co location were the biggies.

Speaker 8

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Batya. So, next question please.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Nick Del Deo with MoffettNathanson. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 9

Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. Kate, you noted some really encouraging new logo and revenue per customer data in Q1 versus Q4. I assume you're looking at sequential trends to kind of strip out the noise from the divestitures. But I'd still be interested if you're able to frame those metrics in sort of a broader historical Contact store or even if you can't quantify it, can you say if those sorts of changes in logos and revenues per customer Kind of well outside of the bands of what was historically typical?

Speaker 2

I mean, I'm going to go back to our philosophy of Customer lifetime value and the choice between not chasing The customer and allowing for churn versus moving to a modern platform where you can upsell them on your first party technology and security and the like Versus 3rd party. I think going after The organic decline strategically is going to pay off in a material way. And it's So early right now, Nick, that it's really hard to characterize. And also, I'm going to be very honest and tell you that the data that we About our sales efforts and our customers, we've put all new analytics in place and we have transparency all the way down to the rep level that we never had before. So it's extremely hard for me to give you this sort of comparison that you're looking for.

Speaker 9

I think

Speaker 2

it's sort of a new set of efforts And we're excited by the early results.

Speaker 9

Okay, okay. Understandable. And I guess you're obviously doing a lot of Prep work for some of the systems changes you've talked about. I guess any early developments or learnings there, Whether encouraging or challenging that you think are worth calling out as we think about the work you have to undertake over the next couple of years?

Speaker 2

I think when you think about A telecom company that is a collection of companies, you need to assume that we have an antiquated IT backbone, that's extremely complex and there's a lot of work to do in order to simplify it. So this is unfortunately not something that we can just snap our fingers and correct quickly or easily or cheaply. It takes investment, but something that I think is new is our ability to fund our future and funding our future includes Making these systemic changes to enable better coverage of the market, better customer experience, a streamlined operations You know capability. And so, yes, lots more there on the story. I think we can share more on the 5th, on June 5th, but Huge amount of work to do and an enormous opportunity for this company.

Speaker 9

Okay. Okay. Just one last one if I can.

Speaker 7

Chris, are you able to

Speaker 9

share the level of growth and optimization spend in the quarter?

Speaker 3

No, we're not disclosing that. But again, if you took our annual guidance and divided it by 4, we were less than that in the quarter, as I said, because We're obviously ramping those efforts. So you'll see a little more spend later in the year than you did at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 9

Okay, Got it. Thank you both.

Speaker 1

Thanks Nick. Searcy, next question please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Greg Williams with TD Cowen, please proceed with your question.

Speaker 10

Great. Thanks for taking my questions. A few questions on Quantum Fiber. You noted that the factory is back, so to speak. So can you help us with the fiber subscriber build cadence from here?

Speaker 10

Typically, the Q2 is a little weaker in broadband, but with this engine up and running, could we expect sequential growth in fiber sub adds? And then the second is just on The increased cost of home passed, I know you guys ticked it up to $1200 a home passed. But as I think about labor, It could be in short supply, right, when you're trying to accelerate later this year in 2024 as bead money chased the same labor pool. Just curious to hear your thoughts and expectations on comfort levels there. Thanks.

Speaker 2

I'll hit the first one, I'll give you the second one, Chris. So If you think about the factory, we've got the enablement piece up and running. We're really excited about sort of the breakthroughs that we've made. We aligned the team, we streamlined operations, we've got advisory services in helping us to do better engineering Assessment for how to tackle the enablement. And what's the first thing that you need in order to get a subscriber?

Speaker 2

You need an enablement. And what do you need in between those two outcomes? You need a marketing engine. So now that we've got the enablement really, really high quality ones up and running, You're going to see us putting gas in the marketing campaigns, digital marketing campaigns to really, I think, turn the needle on subscriber growth.

Speaker 3

Yes. And on the cost side, I mean, the good news is that we feel good about the guidance that we gave at the beginning of the year. And we also and I think this is more important. We talked about the fact that we feel that there is ARPU Upside here and that's something that we'll be looking at going forward. That's the long way of saying that if we do experience movement continue to watch it.

Speaker 3

We're not seeing any pressure there today. I want to be very clear about that. The team continues to look for efficiencies. In some cases, has been able to find efficiency and do the build at a more cost effective rate than what was initially designed. So we'll continue to press that.

Speaker 3

But again, I'm less concerned about that number as it relates to the overall return. It really is about penetration in ARPU And we feel good about both of those.

Speaker 9

Got it. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Greg. Next question, Tristan.

Operator

Certainly. Our next question comes from the line of Frank Louthan with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you. One of your peers is looking to pursue exiting some copper locations as they're sort of Way under the Kohler obligations. Are there any opportunities there for you as you look forward? And then secondly, when you run fiber into an area, How long is it before you can retire the copper there and not have to support 2 networks?

Speaker 7

Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes, I'll take that, Frank. So on kind of opportunities for additional copper consolidation, I'd say just Simply that's not our focus, right? We've got to pivot to the new. It's where the future is for us And that's what we're 100% focused on. As it relates to the copper, I don't have an exact answer for you, but what I can tell you is In a way, our job on that front is easy because we're starting from such a lousy place in terms of copper penetration, right?

Speaker 3

It's At 12%, when we go into a market and we can really blast it with fiber, there's really not Any major issues in terms of turning copper down. So the teams all over that and they make those decisions on a mark market basis.

Speaker 7

All right, great. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Yes. Thanks, Craig. So I'll see this question, please.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Eric Lupko with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 11

Thanks for taking the question. In your early remarks, you talked about retiring more than 60% of your enterprise SKUs primarily from legacy products. So wondering, is that at any impact on revenue contribution? And maybe Can you provide some early color on what those SKUs were? What type of success you've seen thus far migrating those customers up the stack?

Speaker 11

And then Secondly, one for Chris. Given your desire to invest more in Quantum Fiber, any way to break down enterprise CapEx? And if we see any more markets dislocation, how much Of that is success based CapEx that you could potentially adjust to help keep leverage in line?

Speaker 2

Yes. Regarding the portfolio the reduction of 60% of the SKUs was non revenue impacting. What it did was basically clean up The database of product capabilities that we offer today and seek revenue on, which enables a simplification From ordering all the way down through billing. So it was the first step. Now we've got to take the next couple of steps, which is And then B, as we look to upgrade our ERP and do all the complicated work of reducing our application The portfolio will probably have some harder decisions to make, but that's the next tranche of work.

Speaker 3

Yes. As it relates to the CapEx, again, there's a lot of math that we've shared on this, but I would say simply And directionally, high level we've said that of our roughly $3,000,000,000 in CapEx guidance for the year, It was split roughly 2 thirds enterprise business, I should say, 1 third mass markets With about $250,000,000 in each of those for maintenance. And so Quantum had About $600,000,000 and then there's the CapEx that goes into in home Enablements and turn ups. So that's the $1,000,000 for consumer. On the enterprise side, after maintenance, You got $1,000,000,000 and three quarters left and we've said that the enterprise business is really going to be the beneficiary of a lot of the Optimization investment we're doing on the CapEx side, which left about $1,000,000,000 and a quarter for success based.

Speaker 3

Entering the year on success based, we probably have visibility to where about 30% of that's going because of contracts that were sold last year that will be Turned up this year. The rest of it is based off of what we sell this year. So there's enormous flexibility as we go through the year. If enterprise Goes through a period of significant softness, we'll spend less. There's a natural governor and correlation between those two But as we go through this year, we're confident that we can stay within our guidance given what the mass market

Speaker 1

Thanks, Eric. So we have time for just one last question.

Operator

Certainly. Our last question comes from the line of Jonathan Chaplin with New Street Research. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 12

Thanks. 2 Quick easy ones, if I may. First, I'm wondering if you have a sense of what the bead opportunity is Within your footprint, how many locations might be Bead eligible amongst the portion that you don't upgrade to fiber? And then a bit of a technical question for Chris on the proceeds from the EMEA transaction. I understand that those are going to pay down debt.

Speaker 12

Can you tell us which silo specifically they go towards? Do the proceeds stay within the Level 3 silo paying down debt there or can they go anywhere across the capital structure?

Speaker 2

Sure. I'll take the first one. I'll let Chris do the second one. With respect to bead, so all of Our numbers that we shared with you, the $8,000,000 to $10,000,000 that we've talked about a couple of different times, that's without bead funding at all. So anything from bead would be a net positive add to the story and it's early days yet.

Speaker 2

We're not exactly sure how it's slowing down, so we can't give you that kind of

Speaker 3

Yes. And on the EMEA proceeds, We'll get more specific about where those proceeds go as time goes on, but we do have A certain amount of flexibility. The biggest thing is, is obviously we've got to be thoughtful about where we are on covenants. And that's part of what goes into our decision making on all that.

Speaker 12

Great. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Jonathan. Thank you.

Speaker 2

So thanks everybody. That concludes our call today. Appreciate your time and look forward to seeing you or hearing from you on June 5. Have a great day.

Operator

We would like to thank everyone for your participation and for using the Lumin conferencing service today. This does conclude the conference call and we ask that you please disconnect your line. Have a great day everyone.

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