CF Industries Q3 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • CF Industries generated an adjusted EBITDA of $1.0 billion in Q3 and $4.6 billion year-to-date, with $3.7 billion of free cash flow and a 63% EBITDA-to-cash-flow conversion on a trailing 12-month basis.
  • The global nitrogen market remains extremely tight due to strong agricultural demand, high energy costs driving European and Asian curtailments, and supply constraints from Chinese and Russian export restrictions.
  • The company is advancing its clean-energy strategy via a blue ammonia project with Mitsui, a FEED study with ThyssenKrupp, and a carbon capture and sequestration agreement with ExxonMobil to sequester 2 million tons of CO₂ annually by early 2025.
  • CF Industries plans to return significant capital to shareholders, lowering its outstanding share count below 200 million and launching a new $3 billion share repurchase program backed by a free cash flow yield above 19%.
  • Logistics constraints such as record low river levels and rail service risks have spotlighted CF’s in-market distribution assets, but the company remains well positioned to meet both domestic and export demand.
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Earnings Conference Call
CF Industries Q3 2022
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There are 14 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to CF Industries 2022 First 9 Months and Third Quarter Financial Results. All participants will be in listen only mode. We will facilitate a question and answer session towards the end of the presentation. I would now like to turn the presentation over to the host for today, Mr. Martin Jaroszuk with CF Investor Relations.

Operator

Sir, please proceed.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and thanks for joining the CF Industries earnings conference call. With me today are Tony Will, CEO Chris Bone, CFO and Bert Frost, Senior Vice President of Sales, Market Development and Supply Chain. CFN Industries reported its results for the Q3 and 1st 9 months of 2022 yesterday afternoon. On this call, we will review the results, discuss our outlook and then host a question and answer session. Statements made on this call and in the presentation on our website that are not historical facts are forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

These statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict. Therefore, Actual outcomes and results may differ materially from what is expressed or implied in any statements. More detailed information about factors that may affect our Now let me introduce Tony Will, our President and CEO. Thanks,

Speaker 2

Martin, and good morning, everyone. Yesterday afternoon, we posted our results For the Q3 and 1st 9 months of 2022, in which we generated adjusted EBITDA of $1,000,000,000 $4,600,000,000 respectively. On a trailing 12 month basis, our adjusted EBITDA was $5,800,000,000 and our free cash Flow was a whopping $3,700,000,000 Our industry leading EBITDA to free cash flow conversion efficiency is an incredible 63%. These results reflect continued outstanding execution by the CF Industries team. Our plants are running well, And we continue to leverage our distribution and logistics capabilities to navigate rapidly changing global environment.

Speaker 2

Most importantly, we have done all of this safely. At the end of the quarter, our 12 month recordable incident rate was 0.29 incidents For 200,000 labor hours, well below industry averages. Our team's remarkable performance took place against the backdrop of a very tight Global nitrogen supply demand balance. As Bert will explain in a moment, we believe the dynamics underpinning this environment will remain in place for an Extended period, namely strong agricultural led demand and high energy prices in Europe and Asia. Based on this outlook, we expect to continue generating substantial free cash flow, which will enable us to invest prudently in high return growth projects, while at the same time returning significant capital to shareholders.

Speaker 2

We remain focused on our clean energy growth initiatives, highlighted by the development of our blue ammonia capacity. Most recently, we reached a landmark carbon capture and sequestration agreement with ExxonMobil for We have also moved our joint venture blue ammonia project with Mitsui into the FEED study phase. We believe that our focus on disciplined investments and partnerships with global leaders will keep us at the forefront of the developing market for low carbon ammonia. We also remain committed to returning capital to shareholders through share repurchases and dividends. At the end of the Q3, we have brought our outstanding share count below 200,000,000 for the first time on a stock split adjusted basis.

Speaker 2

Given the confidence we have for our continued high level of free cash generation going forward, along with the fact that our shares have an LTM Free cash flow yield of over 19% as shown on Slide 6 of our materials. We have established a new $3,000,000,000 share repurchase program to follow on after we complete our existing authorization. With that, let me turn it over to Bert, who

Speaker 3

will discuss the global nitrogen market in more detail. Bert? Thanks, Tony. The operating environment for CF Industries remains positive as we near the end of 2022. Agricultural led demand continues to be robust due to the need to replenish global grain stocks.

Speaker 3

At the same time, energy prices in Europe and Asia have remained high, causing an unprecedented level of ammonia curtailments in Europe during the Q3. Trade flows have adjusted rapidly With the rate of nitrogen imports into Europe over the last 3 months approaching those of the 2 largest import regions, India and Brazil. Foreign Energy Curtis suggests that producers in Europe and Asia will face high energy costs into at least 2025. This will likely continue to challenge Producer economics in those regions and lower global nitrogen supply availability. Producers in Europe with the option to import ammonia Have been able to run upgrades profitably, but for those who cannot, the European winter is likely to be very difficult.

Speaker 3

Global supply also remains limited by government actions. Since October of 2021, Chinese government policy has materially restricted urea exports. Ammonia exports from Russia are also well below prior years. In contrast, the supply of upgraded fertilizer product Expect demand for nitrogen to remain resilient as the agriculture sector focuses on maximizing food production in the face of increasing food insecurity. Global harvests are not projected to make meaningful progress in 2022 towards rebuilding global grain stocks as key producing regions suffered from poor weather during the growing season.

Speaker 3

This includes the U. S. Where crops were negatively affected by extended heat and drought this summer, leading to yields that are expected to be significantly below trend. As a result, crop futures prices for corn remain strong relative to the last decade, which should incentivize farmers to apply nitrogen fertilizer to maximize yields in 2023. As we have seen so far this year, margin opportunities can shift rapidly Between regions where product is needed most.

Speaker 3

Typical seasonal demand from India and Brazil and higher than usual demand from Europe continue to drive today's market. This has enabled CF to build our largest export book ever and we are receiving strong interest for 1st quarter export shipments as well. Further out, we expect high corn and wheat planted acres in North America in 2023 due to strong crop futures prices and healthy farm economics. In line with this outlook, we have a strong order book for the fall ammonia application season, which has begun. Low water levels on the Mississippi River have challenged the industry's ability to move product northward late in the year and will have an impact into 2023.

Speaker 3

This is likely to increase the importance and value of product manufactured in and close to the corn belt as we enter 2023. As you can see on Slide 11, we expect these broad industry supply and demand dynamics to continue to support a steep global nitrogen cost curve during 2023 and in our view well beyond. The wide estimated cost range suggests continued volatility in global nitrogen prices. With our manufacturing network firmly rooted at the low end of the cost curve, we are well positioned for strong margin opportunities even as prices fluctuate. Let me turn the call over to Chris.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Bert. For the Q3 of 2022, the company reported net earnings attributable to common stockholders $438,000,000 or $2.18 per diluted share. EBITDA was $826,000,000 And adjusted EBITDA was $983,000,000 For the 1st 9 months of the year, the company reported net earnings attributable to common stockholders of $2,500,000,000 or $12.04 per diluted share. EBITDA was $4,300,000,000 And adjusted EBITDA was $4,600,000,000 As we look ahead, we believe we are well positioned across our business in strategic initiatives. Based on remaining planned maintenance activities, we expect capital expenditures for 2022 to be around $500,000,000 at the low end of the range we provided at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 4

This total encompasses expenditures related to our clean energy initiatives, including acquiring the land in Louisiana for the proposed blue ammonia plant with Mitsui. We have initiated a FEED study for the project with ThyssenKrupp, and we expect a final investment decision in the second half of twenty twenty three. We also took a substantial step forward with our carbon capture project at .complex, partnering with ExxonMobil and gaining the benefit of their unparalleled expertise in subsurface geology. Once operational, up to 2,000,000 tons of carbon dioxide annually will be transported from Donaldsonville and sequestered rather than admitted, putting us well on track to meet our 2,030 emissions intensity reduction goal. We expect sequestration to begin in early 2025, in line with the anticipated completion of the $200,000,000 carbon dioxide dehydration and compression unit we are constructing.

Speaker 4

Given our installed assets in place and the enhanced 45Q tax credit in the Inflation Reduction Act, We expect to earn returns well above our cost of capital. We believe our agreement with ExxonMobil represents critical progress and the development of the market for low carbon ammonia. In a little over 2 years, we expect to have completed the carbon dioxide infrastructure necessary to produce blue ammonia. This should give industries interested in using low carbon blue ammonia for clean energy greater certainty That substantial volumes will soon be available. Our clean energy initiatives continue to have a very attractive return profile, with projected expenditures representing only a modest outlay of capital compared to our free cash generation outlook.

Speaker 4

This will enable us to pursue additional growth opportunities that meet our investment criteria as well as continue to return capital to shareholders. On a trailing 12 month basis, we have repurchased more than 20,000,000 shares For approximately $1,600,000,000 through both ratable and opportunistic repurchases. This is almost 10% of CF Industries' share count from 1 year ago. On Slide 6, you can see our free cash flow yield and free cash flow to adjusted EBITDA conversion rate. Based on these metrics, we see our shares as undervalued and expect to maintain a robust share repurchase program.

Speaker 4

We anticipate completing the remainder of the current repurchase authorization in the near future. At that point, we'll begin the new $3,000,000,000 share repurchase With that, Tony will provide some closing remarks before we open the call to Q and A.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Chris. Before we move on to your questions, I want to thank everyone at CF Industries for their outstanding work in 2022. Their expertise An unwavering commitment to safety is the foundation of everything we do. One of the ways we put a spotlight on this commitment is our annual Wilson Award for Excellence in safety, which honors the most impactful safety innovation development within the company. I want to recognize our Yazoo City Complex for winning This year's award.

Speaker 2

They improved the process of ammonia plant boiler startups, reducing the potential for unsafe conditions to arise. As we approach the end of an outstanding year for CF Industries, I want to put our performance in context. Over the last 10 years, we have invested to grow our production and cash generation capacity, while strengthening the balance sheet and significantly reducing our outstanding share count. Our unmatched execution ability, along with a positive operating environment, have amplified the returns from these investments. As you can see on Slide 8 of our materials, from the perspective of shareholders, free cash flow Participation has more than tripled over this time period.

Speaker 2

Given our strong operational focus, disciplined capital stewardship, Favorable outlook and strong return profile from our clean energy initiatives, we expect to generate superior cash flows. As a result, we believe we are well positioned to build on our proven track record and create substantial shareholder values in the years ahead. With that, operator, we will now open the call to your questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. As a courtesy to others on the call, we ask that you limit yourself to one question. And our first question will come from Chris Parkinson of Mizuho. Please go ahead. Great.

Speaker 5

Thank you so much. There's been a lot of movement in trade flows, including ammonia coming out of North America and heading to Europe, which is easing a lot of the supply shortfalls that the region is facing. Just I'd be very curious to hear your assumptions on how this materializes into, Let's say the Q1 into the springtime demand season and whether or not you believe there's going to be an eventual disproportionate demand pull On Middle Eastern suppliers as we begin to supply, let's say, the Northern Hemisphere markets into the spring. Just any kind of comments on that updated dynamic would be very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Hey, good morning, Chris. This is Bert. And you hit on probably one of the important subjects That we in the production side of the sector need to look at as well as the distribution side and that is these changing trade flows. And so what used to come out of Russia, let's say 2 +1000000 tons of ammonia or different places is needing to be replaced on top of The lack of production coming out of Europe at least in Q3 with gas prices remaining above $50 So you've had a substantial amount of supply taken off The market and CF as well as others have had to step in and replace those tons. But it's also reflected in urea and UAN as Russian tons head more towards South America and Middle Eastern and North African tons as well as North American tons are heading to Europe.

Speaker 3

And so those trade flows are reflected in additional vessel time and costs of logistics as well as the cost of the products. And so when we're looking at the trade flows, our assumptions are and we're receiving, as I said in my prepared remarks, requests And outright bids for product to be supplied in Q1 and we expect this dynamic to continue through 2023 and Probably 2020, 2024 and we are geared up for that. We have changed some of our flows to accommodate that. Always mindful though of our North American customers and the ability to supply that. And so that's why we did the fill program early In July, to take care of our North American customers and meet their needs or what they were willing to commit to and then be more aggressive in the export market.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Operator

The next Question comes from Adam Samuelson of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Yes. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I guess, maybe continuing on that line of questioning, obviously, a lot of different kind of dynamics between different Forms of nitrogen at the moment. As you look at the Q4 in the U.

Speaker 6

S. And overseas, maybe it's Pretty notable how divergent maybe ammonia and some of the nitrates are versus urea. And now that you're out of the Major the bigger turnarounds and in considering the logistics issues with the river, how should we think about that impacting shipments? And how do you think how does it think that impacts inland inventories in North America going into the spring? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes, good morning. This is Bert again. And I think these are the important salient topics that we are discussing with our customers today is how do we meet North American demand due to some of the difficulties and you're right, the river issue with it's not just the Mississippi, but it's the Arkansas, the Ohio, the Illinois that are limiting shipments and water levels are at 30 year lows. So barges are not only being light loaded, they We're taking double the amount of time and then to merge on those barges. So the cost of moving a ton from NOLA to The Midwest by barge went from, let's say, dollars 15 to $70 So that's why when we say the value of internal tons Like our Port Neal or our Canadian tons or inland tons in North America are going to be Valued and needed and we're working with our customers to move those tons as we speak.

Speaker 2

And I would just add to that. Adam, this only potentially gets exacerbated if you do end up with a railroad strike, which is being threatened out there. So The value of our in market production distribution assets is really Spotlight it during periods of logistics discontinuities and we're seeing that today both in terms of River, but also just normal rail service rates even if there's not A strike. So as Bert said, we're very pleased with where we've got product position, what our Production looks like in market and with Donaldsonville where it is, we certainly have the options to be able to continue to For it in access, the European market, which is really short nitrogen and so we're happy to be able to Satisfy some of those requirements and needs over there relative to, I would just say, differences in margin opportunities. Bert does a great job of optimizing product mix in order to maximize margin opportunity.

Speaker 2

So right now, As you look at the value of ammonia versus where urea is or UAN, we twist the dials and we move toward The products with better margins per unit of nitrogen and in a lot of cases then that leads to opportunities for export And really to set us up for a great end of the year and a good year next year.

Speaker 3

Yes. And just some additional comments, thanks for that, is we have gone out and procured additional railcars as a reflection of the difficulties of the rivers As well as working with vessels to efficiently move our products globally. So we're excited about what's coming in Q1 and Q2.

Speaker 6

All right. That's very helpful. I guess just one clarification question on the railroads. How long of a strike Could you weather without impact starting before you run out of on-site storage and load out that your production would be impacted?

Speaker 2

Yes, I mean, I think the way we approach that or have approached that is, Bert's got a really good order book and Donaldsonville, We can export everything we produce there. And so we have plenty of international demand. There is available vessel, outbound loadings and we're not in a situation where We're concerned about being able to run Deville. Our in market plants, because they're already in market, A lot of them have access to just do truck delivery and don't require significant rail outbound loadings. And so We're in a really good position relative to not only capturing that in market spread because the high cost of bringing imported Product into the corn belt, but also given our logistics and distribution network and our storage capacity, We're relatively unaffected by a rail strike, but that would have dire consequences for the rest of the industry And anyone who's counting on bringing imported tons in, is in real trouble in the event of both the combination of low river levels along with the potential rail strike.

Speaker 3

And we're cognizant of these issues and we would have inventory space as Tony said with our distribution network and Terminals. So I think we can manage that well.

Speaker 6

That's all really helpful color. I'll pass it on. Thanks.

Operator

The next question comes from P. J. Juvekar of Citi. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Yes. Good morning, Tony and Bert. I'm really confused with this nitrogen market. And I hope you can make some sense of this. If you assume European TTF prices, let's say, in the mid-30s, That puts marginal cost of ammonia at close to $1200 and maybe urea north of $800 And prices are much lower today.

Speaker 7

U. S. Is exporting, but as we approach the spring season, U. S. Will have to stop exporting.

Speaker 7

You guys will have to take care of your own Domestic customers. So in that case, how does this market play out? Can you just describe some scenarios for us?

Speaker 2

Yes, I mean, I think what we're seeing right now is there clearly is some level of demand destruction. And I would say most prominently on the industrial side in Europe, where you've got very high energy costs and It's well publicized that BASF and others are running facilities at greatly reduced rates. And so and that really has to happen in this environment because you don't have enough nitrogen to go around. So Price tends to be a good arbiter of where the value sits and what things don't get it. And so that's necessary.

Speaker 2

But as you point out, we don't expect high operating rates In Europe, based on where the forward gas curve is and at least where current product pricing is. So that's further going to constrain supply going forward. And that really Calls into question or highlights potential food insecurity issues and some of the most vulnerable parts of the world. That's a real challenge as we look at high energy costs and relatively lower operating rates. And we're conscious of that and trying to navigate that.

Speaker 2

But from our standpoint, given where the Strategic location of Donaldsonville is, we do have the option of exporting it and we'll sell those tons domestically if the price Is attractive relative to other options. And if Europe is a more attractive option for us And are paying higher prices than I think price is the best arbiter of who values the tons the most and they ought to get them. So we're aware of it, but I think that's one of the reasons why we're fairly bullish as we look forward. The outlook of high energy costs in Europe and Asia means lower operating rates. They still need the product given where grain markets are and grain stocks to use are.

Speaker 2

So we expect very strong agricultural led demand And a tight supply demand balance on nitrogen and that's why we're so bullish about the go forward.

Speaker 3

And I also think this is the cost curve in action. You're seeing the cost curve fit in that high cost ton globally. So Again, back to strange economics and logistics, you have Australian ammonia moving to Europe. You have Chinese ammonia moving that direction. Never happened.

Speaker 3

You have our ammonia also moving to Europe. And so these changes, these dynamics are you have to bid in those tons and some of those Plants that have to produce for DEF reasons or chemical intermediates are running, but those who can import like we said earlier are. And so when you have 17,000,000 tons of capacity and half of that's off, you're going to have massive dislocations. And we stepped in and we think others will continue to step in and that will keep the market tight.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you. I'm still confused, but thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Vincent Andrews of Morgan Stanley, please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Thank you and good morning everyone.

Speaker 3

Good morning.

Speaker 8

I just would like to hear your thoughts on Chinese exports and in particular we saw in the last month data that ammonia sulfate Sports took a big step up. And so I'm just wondering if you think that's going to be a trend on a go forward basis and where you what markets you think that would wind up influencing and Does it actually matter from a CF perspective?

Speaker 3

So again, China has been an enigma wrapped inside of enigma. It's been very interesting to watch their various governmental policies over the last several years from massive expansions in capacity To ramping that production down and becoming a basic domestic supplier, especially of urea, going from 13 1,000,000 tons a few years ago to 5 and now down to 1.5. So dramatic change that has tightened up the global S and D. But ammonium sulfate has been a surprise. That's come out in multiple millions of tons and ammonium sulfate is a good fertilizer because you're Combining nitrogen and sulfur to sulfur deficient areas.

Speaker 3

So it's been a lot of those tons have moved to South America as well as to Europe And have replaced some of the urea and ammonium nitrate tons in Europe. So we expect that to continue. Those haven't been sanctioned by the government and they have come out and And that's probably a reflect some of that production is a reflection of caprolactam, others is a reflection of pollution control equipment to make that product. And so, it's been a surprise, yes, and we expect it to continue.

Speaker 2

But I would also say it It's something that the world is desperately short of now with all of the curtailments and outages you see across Historic producing regions, the world is chronically short and really needs those tons and has Bid up the value of those tons for the reasons Bert has talked about. So I think that's the normal response given the deficiency on the supply side.

Speaker 8

Thanks so much.

Operator

The next question comes from to a specter of UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Good morning. This is Lucas Perman on for Josh. I just wanted to ask you guys about Russia, Good. So the exports there haven't really been impacted that much in nitrogen compared to some of the other nutrients. But I mean, over time, you'd probably start to expect to see them having production problems there based on wear and tear, Lack of availability of parts and expertise, that sort of thing that's popping up in other industries.

Speaker 9

So I was just wondering, could you give us your thoughts on How we should kind of see that through flow through to like lower production yields and operating rate operating rates over time. And then also just kind of on the expansion project side, like they had a few listed there the next 2 to 3 years. So do they basically just not get done now for the same kind of Lack of availability of parts and expertise basically?

Speaker 2

So, Lucas, I think our expectation is that Nitrogen exports remain sort of near historic levels And there isn't that much variation. The one difference is probably a little lower on the ammonia side because a lot of that ammonia Used to go via pipeline down to Odessa or Eugenie and then come out To the Black Sea and that route is not really available right now. So there is some reduction in ammonia exports. But as you point out, the other forms of nitrogen are pretty flat year on year. And our expectation is that Their operating rate, at least for the next year or so, is going to be fairly consistent.

Speaker 2

I think, it's really Pending upon how long the conflict goes on and how long you see various sanctions in place. At the moment, we're not counting on there being a big fall off of Russian ton availability due to maintenance problems. On the new plant build, our expectation is those plants, once they've begun, will eventually start up, But they were likely to be delayed for a significant amount of time. And so I think it's fair to push Startup on a lot of those plants back at least 18 months, if not 2 years. But again, our expectation is that they start up and also The world really is in a deficit situation right now with respect to the normal demand growth in nitrogen year on year and The amount of production capacity coming online.

Speaker 2

So ultimately, the world really does need those plants To show up, particularly when we start seeing alternative uses of low carbon ammonia, Whether it's as a marine fuel or as co combustion for electricity generation with coal, historically, those demand The areas have not required ammonia. And if we see those things develop and start pulling away available ammonia, we really Do need those new plants to start up. So, our expectation is that Russia is, for the most part, Status quo with a little bit of delay on the new stuff.

Operator

The next question comes from Joel Jackson of BMO. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Good morning, gentlemen. I'm going to ask a few questions together. Maybe Bert, what would you think if the togliadipipeline comes back online, What would that do for ammonia in the world? Number 2, Martin always likes to yell at me about Q3, politely though about Q3, ammonia netbacks tend to be Weaker because of the heavy industrial mix. You had some quite weak urea and UAN prices relative to sort of benchmarks.

Speaker 10

Can you talk about was that just the export Dynamic there and the number 3, the $3,000,000,000 buyback over 3 years, it's a good number. Can you talk about, Tony, Why is that the right number? What the Board was thinking about all the different commitments and how you got to $3,000,000,000 for 3 years? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Okay. I'll start with the first two. Toggliati will come back online at some point. We know that there have been some efforts To rail those tons to northern ports, that's a very difficult situation to take on. 1, you need additional railcars that Then move additional miles that had to go through different facilities and it's an intricate bringing together of many different components.

Speaker 3

Will the pipeline come back up? That is a big question. It's a very long pipeline. It's an old pipeline and you're in the middle of a war zone. So all those positive factors would say That's going to be a pretty difficult enterprise to bring back up to its former operating rate.

Speaker 3

So Those 2,000,000 tons that have moved pretty consistently over the years, I think should be questioned. Is it 1,000,000 tons? Is it just a pigging of the line? We have to wait and see. An, when you look at the Q3 netbacks, you're right.

Speaker 3

When you look at them, let's just take each of the 3. On ammonia, it is an industrial quarter. And so when you look at the volume of tons And the commitments we have to Mosaic and other industrial users that are many gas based, I think our numbers are extraordinary because On the percentage that is at cost plus against the percentage that is at market price, we averaged very well. And when you're looking at urea, as the next question you had, the low of urea for Q3 was $4.85 entering Q3. And so as you know, for urea, you're asking our customers to sit on those tons for up to 8 months.

Speaker 3

And so there is a working capital issue and an expense issue that goes with buying those tons and they do get discounted and in the interior they get discounted as well. And that's just something we work through with our customers over time. And so when you look at our average price, Again, starting at a very low level and probably hitting a peak. The peak of pricing was late in September. And so that will be reflected in Q4.

Speaker 3

So I like our Q3, both ammonia and urea numbers. I think UAN was fantastic at the numbers We had there when we started ammonia fill at $400 an average $4.48 that's a good team effort there.

Speaker 2

Yes. And I would just tag on with that one. Joel, back to Martin's point that he is spot Q3 is our lowest quarter from an ag demand perspective because the Northern Hemisphere is not applying and everything For the most part, it's going into inventory. And so really, it's also proportionally our largest industrial quarter. And as he points out rightly so, whether it's the Mosaic contract or other industrial contracts that we have, Those don't trade typically at the same level as ag demand does, particularly ag demand in season.

Speaker 2

And You got to make sure when you're thinking about Q3, you take those factors into consideration. But I'm with Bert, I am really pleased with our price I mean, dollars 1,000,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA is the strongest third quarter we've ever had by a long shot. And that really leads us into the second part of your question, which is $3,000,000,000 Why is that the right number? And I would just say, over the last 12 months, We've done $1,600,000,000 of share repo and we're nearing the Closing out the existing repurchase authorization that we have. And so we wanted to make sure that we got another authorization in place, so we didn't Have any dead period in there.

Speaker 2

And this is one of those things that it's going to be a rinse and repeat, Not a this is the end of it, right. So if things develop the way We expect them to and how we're seeing the first half develop, we could easily finish that well faster than the 3 year time horizon that it's on. And then we'd go back and layer on another one on top of it. But the good news here is based on Energy differentials and based on where stocks to use are, we see a prolonged period of very significant cash flow generation The business without huge CapEx requirements. And so it really gives us a lot of flexibility in terms of how we think about deploying Returning capital to shareholders and I'm just excited about what that means for the future.

Speaker 3

Joel, I do want to highlight one issue that when you're talking about pricing is the record levels. But if you look at our other category, that's basically DEF and a few other products. But the DEF team is not only operating at maximum capacity and utilizing our fleet efficiently, But the average price realization from that group is at record levels. So just a shout out to them.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Andrew Wong of RBC. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hey, good morning. So I just want to ask about nitrogen demand actually. We normally On the ag side, it's we think of it as pretty non discretionary. And obviously, there's going to be a lot of acres being planted. We have Seeing a little bit of pullback in demand or just some demand deferral and things like that.

Speaker 6

Like, I guess, I'm just kind of curious on your view on price elasticity Ju Jin, crop profitability and all those metrics look really, really strong, but just seems like there's a little bit of hesitancy here. So Just trying to think about how that works. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes, Andrew. I think what's going on a little bit is There is a wait and see approach being taken by a lot of people right now. They know that they're going to need nitrogen next Fall, they're looking at where crop prices are and despite the fact that farm economics are still very favorable, The view is nitrogen prices is relatively high and therefore I may want to wait. I think what we're seeing is That's a tough situation or Potentially a tough situation given where energy prices are in the rest of the world. The other issue is in some parts of the world, less so in North America and Europe, but there's also a big working capital commitment at the current levels of nitrogen pricing out there in order to Build a position for next year.

Speaker 2

So I think people tend to live a little bit more hand to mouth on that. But there's still plenty of demand, as you say, based on where grain prices are. We think ag demand is going to be very strong as we head into next year. And we're very optimistic about where that

Speaker 3

I agree. And when you look at end demand, just taking 5 major markets, China, Argentina, Brazil is 1, North America and Europe. When you look at the total demand coming from those just those areas, it's very healthy, over 100,000,000, 130,000,000 tons of 180,000,000 tons that move around the world. We are short in terms of grains and oilseeds And the stocks to use ratio, but you have to feather in then livestock, ethanol. And even though we're heading into a recession, The products that are demanded from us, the ammonia, nitric acid for synthetic fibers or explosives for mining Are all very positive.

Speaker 3

And so for end demand, I look at the forward and that goes back to the cost curve. There are regions that are going to be cost Constrained. And so then you lay in the demand that's expected that still keeps the market tight. And that's why we're operating in this level of pricing $1,000 for ammonia when a year ago we were at $600,000 and 2 years before that we were at $400,000 We are going to stay At healthy levels for the foreseeable future.

Operator

The next question comes from John Roberts of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Thank you. Actually, this is Edlain Rodriguez. Bert and Tony, one quick question and apologies if you mentioned that already. Clearly, the quarter turned out weaker than you would have expected. Like what was so different from your expectation 2, 3 months ago?

Speaker 11

Like what did you think you missed?

Speaker 2

Actually, I don't think we missed anything. I think if anything, The view from other people on the outside may not contemplate the normal cadence of this business, which is There's no ag demand and product going to ground in the Q3 and therefore it's industrial Really mix of business that is much higher and industrial contracts because of the ratability of them tend to Trade at a lower rate. We've talked about at link the Mosaic contract and others. And honestly, having $1,000,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA in the 3rd quarter is Absolutely fantastic. We launched Bill at the highest price we've ever launched at and realized Price is well above that.

Speaker 2

We had a fairly muted fill program because we saw the demand for that product internationally. And I'd tell you $1,000,000,000 of EBITDA in the Q3 is absolutely outstanding. There's nothing I'm Disappointed or apologetic about it all.

Speaker 3

Yes. Let me give my unbiased opinion, which is production is higher than estimated, volume shift is higher than estimated. We pivoted very quickly to the export market where we had at times 3 times the normal volume of exports. We had got the vessels lined up, Product moved and the pricing was in line and our inventory is manageable and gas price was lower than expected. Other than that, It was great.

Speaker 2

Yes. And Eveline, I would just say one other thing. We don't really give guidance, right? Now we have it internally and I'll tell you based on what our internal thought was, we knocked it out of the park. So I'm really pleased with The performance of this organization.

Speaker 11

Okay, perfect. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Stephen Byrne of Bank of America Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Yes, I want to hear your view on nitrogen inventory levels in various channels. So maybe starting with The U. S. Corn belt, clearly you exported more than normal this year. And I'm sure you have visibility into your wholesale and retail customers.

Speaker 12

How would you assess their inventory levels right now versus normal? So that would be the U. S. Comment or question. There's some comments out there that Europe has full inventory levels of urea.

Speaker 12

I'm not sure that's logical, but would care to would like to hear your view on that one. And then with respect to Brazil, Do they have enough urea to head into safrinha?

Speaker 3

So looking at the U. S. System, I think it's probably I know how we were trending into Q3 and we had high inventory levels. And This was not the view that was public, but as we followed the trade case, we kept inventories Station of spring demand that didn't show up. So we were long UAN.

Speaker 3

And so through Q3, we worked that down to a very good level. Yes, we did export, but we also shipped to the interior. We've also prepared for fall application of ammonia, which is now Taking place and positioned ourselves very well to meet our customers' expectations into December. Urea, I think that's probably maybe on the lighter side of inventory and I think that's where the river and for UAN, the river issues are having an impact of an inability to move NOLA tons up or the cost to move them up. And that's something we're watching And that's why we're acquiring additional railcars, so we can move de ville tons by rail if needed as well as Port Neal and Medicine Hat, Alberta.

Speaker 3

But we're transitioning to the rest of the world. There are areas where inventory is high, but the reason that they're high in Europe is Europe was not set up to be a very large importer. And so you're structurally trying to do something very quickly that the system was not built to do. And so those import facilities, they are a little bit plugged. They also had High or low river issues and an inability to fully load barges, but they also don't have a rail system like ours set up to Quickly move tons into the interior.

Speaker 3

So structural issues are limiting the movement of product and I think that's going to be an issue for them. There are a lot of North African That were moved into Europe. So I would actually say they were plugged for a while. UAN is a little bit different. We're moving some UAN over there and that's Been moving fairly efficiently.

Speaker 3

Brazil is another issue. There were, Pananagua as well as Santos and Huberende were all Inundated with imports and there's been some trucker issues, some trucker strikes and they're not set up for rail On a grand scale like we are in the United States. And so vessels have been lining up and waiting record numbers of days And that's going to cost money. I do think they'll make it though. However, Brazil is constantly Working through their issues and very creative in how they solve those issues, but they need 600,000 to 700,000 tons a month, no of these Jan And into February to meet the safrinha requirements, I think they'll do that, but it will be probably more expensive.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Ben Theurer of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Yes. Good morning and thank you very much for all the comments. Actually, I wanted to just like Follow-up around the pricing of the product and what maybe was your expectation into the quarter and some of the delays in terms of how it's reflected Drew, so given everything you've talked about in terms of the logistical constraints, be it the rivers, Be it the potential rail strike and so on, plus what's over up, Russia, etcetera. How do you think about the structure The price going forward and how do you think the structure price and the realized price is going to align over time? And also if you could explain maybe a little bit why The current price, at least NOLA, seems to be below the levels of last year, but it seems like there's much more friction in the system this year versus a year ago.

Speaker 13

So just to understand a little bit the actual pricing environment versus some of the commentary you made around the structure price? Thank you.

Speaker 3

So I'll start with the last part first of the current price and why is it lower. We're in a commodity business and a commodity business is not board traded That is determined at different pricing points, whether that be NOLA, Pernagua or the Middle East are dependent on different things. And so as I just at the last caller talked about, there are areas of the world that are high demand areas that are plugged and have an inability to receive new tons. So what has happened, that has happened into NOLA. And With the difficulties of the Rivers system, a lot of traders and buyers have wanted to get out of their positions and they just sold them down To a level that we believe is artificially low.

Speaker 3

And guess what happened this week, we saw a $50 rebound because those tons now may be going to India because India did a surprise tender announcement today. And so this is a dynamic market and this is what the beauty of the CS system of our ability to pivot very quickly, Participate in all these different markets, have the spread of the distribution terminals and the flexibility. Remember, we have 5 different modes to ship pipe, barge, rail truck and vessel. That gives a lot of flexibility. So that's why we believe our pricing structure is consistently at or better than the markets.

Speaker 3

Our expectations are Still the same. You have a product constrained market, a little bit of demand deferral and demand destruction, But a need for the world to be fed and closed and that will only happen with nitrogen fertilizer being readily available And that's the question mark heading into 2023 is how and when that will normalize. So the structured price, we would say where we are today and probably trending higher into 2023, and it's going to be a positive market next year.

Speaker 13

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation and you may now disconnect.

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