Kroger Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 12 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to The Kroger Company 4th Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rob Quast, Director, Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning. Thank you for joining us for Kroger's 4th quarter and full year 2021 earnings call. I am joined today by Kroger's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Rodney McMullen and Chief Financial Officer, Gary Millichip. Before we begin, I want to remind you that today's discussions will include forward looking statements. We want to caution you that such statements are predictions and actual events or results can differ materially.

Speaker 1

A detailed discussion of the many factors The Kroger Company assumes no obligation to update that information. We are excited to see that many of you will also be attending either virtually or in person Our 2022 business update tomorrow in Florida, when we will share additional details and answer questions about our long term strategy and growth initiatives. More information about virtual registration for this event can be found at ir.kroger.com. After our prepared remarks, we look forward to taking your questions. In order to cover a broad range of topics from as many of you as we can, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one related follow-up question if necessary.

Speaker 1

Additionally, we would ask that you focus today's questions on our Q4 and full year 2021 results as well as our 2022 guidance. Now, I will turn the call over to Rodney.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Rob. Good morning and thank you for joining us today. Our strategy of leading with fresh and accelerating with digital propelled Kroger to record performance in 2021 On top of record results in 2020, we are incredibly proud of our associates who continue to deliver for our customers through the pandemic. During 2021, our team delivered for all stakeholders by first of all, achieving positive year over year identical Without fuel against very strong identical last year and a 2 year stack of 14.3%. Also by connecting with customers through expanding our seamless ecosystem and remarkable consistent delivery of full fresh and friendly customer Experience for everyone, plus investing more than ever before in our associates to raise our average hourly rate to $17 and our average hourly rate to over $22 when you include confidence of benefits as well.

Speaker 2

We balanced all of those investments by achieving cost savings of greater than $1,000,000,000 for the 4th consecutive year And alternative profits contributed an incremental $150,000,000 of operating profit as well. As we look to 2022, we expect the momentum in our business to continue and we have confidence in our ability to navigate a rapidly We are leveraging technology, innovation and our competitive moats To build lasting competitive advantages, our balanced model is allowing us to deliver for shareholders, invest in our associates, Continue to provide fresh affordable food for our customers and support for our communities. We remain confident in our growth model and our ability to deliver total shareholder returns of 8% to 11% over time. Kroger is leading with fresh. Our fresh departments outpaced total company identical sales excluding fuels during the Q4.

Speaker 2

Kroger remains the number one retailer in many exciting areas such as specialty cheese, sushi and floral. As the world's largest florist, we sold over 76,000,000 floral stems for Valentine's Day alone. And the smiles that came along with that for our customers and associates for free. We advanced our fresh strategy and strengthened our fresh offerings in 2021 by launching our Go Fresh and local supplier accelerator, Supporting our commitment to small businesses. As a result of the launch, we have brought a number of new products to Customers and the initial results have exceeded our expectations.

Speaker 2

We are still early in the program and we will continue to We also remain a leader And innovation through exciting partnerships with companies like Kitchen United and Kipster, we've completed the initial test phase of our end to end fresh focused on bringing more days of freshness to our customers and are confident in its scalability And with plans to expand to targeted stores across the country. Our brands continue to resonate strongly with customers and maintains a culture of innovation, launching over 6 60 new items during the year. More than half of those new items were within our Simple Truth and Private Selection portfolios. We celebrated Home Chef's incredible milestone of becoming a $1,000,000,000 brand, our 4th Greater than $1,000,000,000 brand, which is pretty special. As a reminder for everyone, we merged with Home Chef in 2018.

Speaker 2

At the time, we knew our customers were looking for ways to make meal time easier without compromising on taste or freshness. While Home Chef originated as a pure play e commerce offering, we saw immense potential to integrate and leverage it Across our seamless ecosystem, scaling it within our stores and continuing to grow online. The success of this integration demonstrates our ability to integrate and scale solutions that provide value to our customers And grow our competitive moats. Kroger is focused on delivering a seamless experience that 0 compromise by customers and I think that's a really important point, 0 compromise required by customers. And what that means, it's the freshest products at competitive prices and flexible lead times.

Speaker 2

Yael will go into a lot more detail tomorrow on what 0 compromise means for our customers at our business update. The strength in our top line sales in 2021 Demonstrates our ability to meet our customers no matter how they choose to engage with us, whether it's in store or online. At the same time, we are actively encouraging customers to engage with us on our digital platforms, even when shopping in store. That's because when a customer engages with us digitally, they spend more With Kroger within all modalities. We continue to attract new customers to our digital platforms.

Speaker 2

During the quarter, we saw new seamless pickup and delivery household acquisitions increased 25% Compared to the Q3, we remain committed to doubling digital sales and profitability by 2023, which was announced in 2021. We look forward to sharing our glide path to this goal with you tomorrow. We do not expect digital growth will be linear, especially as we cycle the sales spike in 2020 And customers become more comfortable shopping in store again. We are incredibly proud of the new digital modalities We launched during 2021, including Kroger Delivery Now, our Boost membership program and the rollout of new customer fulfillment centers, all of which we expect to contribute meaningfully to our long term goals. Yesterday, we announced a new customer fulfillment Center for the Cleveland region, following on heels of our announcement of a cross dock spoke facility that will serve Oklahoma City.

Speaker 2

And just a few weeks ago, we opened our 3rd customer fulfillment center in Forest Park, Georgia and are leveraging learnings from Monro and Groveland to drive efficiencies and scale in the new facility. Customers are loving this new offering and we continue to be pleased with the initial rollout of our facilities Groveland and Monroe and we look forward to sharing additional insights tomorrow. Now turning to the supply chain, Our teams across our stores, warehouses, plants and offices have been incredible in working together to supply fresh food And necessities for our customers, while addressing the rapidly changing environment. During the quarter, industry challenges continued with And we remain confident in our ability to navigate these challenges. Within our supply chain, we continue to a wide array of tools, including our owned and operated fleet.

Speaker 2

We are also partnering with our suppliers to improve product Availability, using the strength of our data science teams to provide insights that shorten lead times and optimize inventory flow across the extended supply chain. We continue to focus on expanding our transportation contracts and attracting carriers from outside our industry, which has kept product Flowing predictably across our network. The teams are doing a great job managing the increased costs And the trends within our costs are improving sequentially. We're using our data and supplier When I visit our stores, I often hear from our associates that what they love most about their job Is that they can positively impact the lives of our customers, communities and each other every day. And it's also what I love about our business too.

Speaker 2

And it's what makes our purpose to feed the human spirit so vital for our people. One way we live our purpose is through progress toward our ESG goals and our commitments. As part of our 0 hunger, 0 waste social and environmental impact plan, last year Kroger donated 499,000,000 meals. That's right, 499,000,000 meals to feed hungry families across America. And we continue to make progress toward our goal of 0 waste.

Speaker 2

As part of our commitments to helping people live healthier lives, We've administrated almost 11,000,000 doses of the COVID-nineteen vaccine through Kroger Health. For our more than 450,000 associates, we strive to create a culture of opportunity And we take seriously our role as a leading employer in the United States. Kroger has provided an incredible number of people with their first jobs, New beginnings and lifelong careers. As we continue to operate in a challenging labor market, We are dedicated to attracting and retaining the right talent across the organization to be able to continue delivering for our customers. We are investing more than ever before in our associates by expanding our industry leading benefits, including continuing education and tuition reimbursement, training and development, health and wellness, as well as the continued investment in wages that I mentioned earlier.

Speaker 2

This is enabling us to navigate current labor conditions, while continuing to provide America with the freshest food at affordable prices across our seamless ecosystem. We are cultivating an environment where all associates are able to thrive. For the 4th year in a row, Kroger earned top score in the Human Rights Last year alone, we provided more than $5,000,000 to support associates through unexpected hardships through our Helping Hands Fund. This includes providing critical funds for disaster relief for nearly 1300 associates. 2021 was an incredible year for Kroger and we are committed to continued growth.

Speaker 2

One of Kroger's greatest strengths is our relentless focus on learning and improving every day. I believe this has been a key on navigating our business successfully in every operating environment. We remain customer obsessed and focused on operational excellence to deliver for our customers, associates, communities and shareholders. And now I'd like to turn it over to Gary. Gary?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Rodney, and good morning, everyone. Kroger continues to execute at a high level and is delivering exceptional results while navigating a rapidly changing environment. Before I get into our results in more detail, I would like to start by echoing Rodney's appreciation to our fantastic associates. Their dedication to serve our customers and support each other throughout the pandemic has been nothing short of incredible. Our performance last year clearly highlights the strength of Kroger's go to market strategy as we achieved positive identical sales with our fuel and adjusted EPS growth on top of record results in 2020.

Speaker 3

We also continue to invest in our customers and associates to ensure Kroger is well positioned for future success. These investments were balanced with over $1,000,000,000 in cost savings and $150,000,000 of incremental operating profit from alternative profit streams. I will now provide additional color on our full year results. We delivered adjusted EPS of $3.68 per diluted share, up 6% compared to last year. Identical sales, excluding fuel, were positive 0.2%, and digital sales on a 2 year stack basis grew by 113%.

Speaker 3

Our adjusted FIFO operating profit It was $4,300,000,000 up 6% over 2020. Gross margin was 22% of sales for 2021. The FIFO gross margin rate, excluding fuel, decreased 43 basis points compared to the same period last year. This decrease primarily related to higher supply chain costs and strategic price investments, partially offset by sourcing benefits and growth in alternative profits. The OG and A rate decreased 61 basis points excluding fuel and adjustment items, reflecting a reduction in COVID related costs Turning now to our 4th quarter results.

Speaker 3

Adjusted EPS was $0.91 for the quarter, up 12% compared to the same quarter last year. Kroger reported identical sales without fuel of 4%, our strongest quarter of the year, with fresh departments leading the way. Kroger's FIFO gross margin rate, excluding fuel, increased 3 basis points compared to the same period last year. The stability in our gross margin rate reflects effective management of cost inflation and sourcing benefits, offset by strategic price investments and higher This was driven by significant investments in our associates, including a year end associate thank you reward and various asset impairments, offset by decreased COVID related costs, sales leverage and cost saving initiatives. The LIFO charge for the 4th quarter was $20,000,000 compared to an $84,000,000 credit in the same period last year and represented an $0.11 headwind to EPS in the quarter.

Speaker 3

The year over year increase was attributable to higher inflation in most categories, with grocery and meat being the largest contributors. 1 of Kroger's greatest strengths is our ability to successfully navigate many different And our team is doing an excellent job managing the current higher inflationary environment. We continue to leverage our data and work closely with our suppliers to minimize the effect on our customers and our financial model. We are investing where it matters most to our customers using our proprietary data to be strategic in our pricing and personalization. Our brands is also an important differentiator for Kroger in this environment, offering customers an unmatched combination of great quality Our strategic approach is helping our customers manage their grocery budgets more effectively and is allowing Kroger to maintain a strong price position relative to our key competitors.

Speaker 3

Fuel also remains an important part of our overall value for our customers, and we continue to invest in our fuel program in 2021. Customers that redeem fuel points Our investment in fuel rewards, which is reflected in our Supermarket gross margin also helps customers stretch their dollars further and allowed us to achieve gallon growth of 5% in the 4th quarter outpacing market growth. The average retail price of fuel was $3.30 this quarter versus $2.20 in the same quarter last year. Our cents per gallon fuel margin was $0.44 compared to $0.33 in the same quarter in 2020. Turning now to cash flow and liquidity.

Speaker 3

Our operating results generated exceptional free cash flow in 2021, which resulted in a further strengthening of our balance sheet and liquidity. Kroger's net total debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio is now 1.63 compared to our target range of $2,300,000,000 to $2,500,000,000 We were also disciplined in accelerating the return of cash to shareholders in 2021. In total, Kroger returned $2,200,000,000 to investors via a combination of share repurchases and dividends. I'd now like to take a few minutes to discuss our continued commitment to investing in our associates and our deep experience with collective bargaining. Wages at Kroger grew before and during the pandemic.

Speaker 3

As you know, we committed to significant associate wage investments when we launched our Restock Kroger program at the end of 2017. Kroger has invested an incremental $1,200,000,000 in associate wages Training over the last 4 years. In addition, we have committed to invest over $1,800,000,000 during the same time period to help address underfunding in all of the more than 350 collective bargaining agreements that cover approximately 66% of our associates. These contracts are regularly negotiated by our professional labor relations team. Our objective is to negotiate contracts that balance competitive wage increases and affordable health care for associates with keeping groceries affordable for the communities that we serve.

Speaker 3

Our obligation is to do this in a way that maintains a financially sustainable business. If negotiations do become contentious, we have contingency plans in place to continue to support our communities. During the Q4, we ratified new labor agreements with the UFCW for associates in Fred Meyer, King Soopers and our Michigan division, covering more than 20,500 associates. For 2022, we have contract negotiations with the UFCW for store associates in Las Vegas, Southern California, Seattle, Indianapolis, Portland, Columbus, Fort Wayne, Chicago and Toledo, in addition to continued negotiations with the UFCW for store associates in Houston, Little Rock and Memphis. We are actively proposing generous wage increases over the life of the various contracts we are negotiating, and these increases are included in our financial model and our guidance for 2022.

Speaker 3

We are also communicating to local unions That coming to the table with unrealistic proposals, proposals that do not balance associated investments with keeping groceries affordable for our customers, is untenable and undermines our shared goal of growing the company to create more jobs and advancement opportunities for more associates. In closing, let me now provide additional color on the 2022 guidance that we released this morning. While we recognize there remain a number of uncertainties in the economic and geopolitical outlook, we believe the strength of Kroger's go to market strategy and our ability to manage multiple levers within our financial model will allow us to continue to build momentum within our business in 2022. We have shared previously that we expect to emerge from the pandemic stronger, and our guidance for 2022 creates a new baseline for FIFO net operating profit that is some $900,000,000 higher than the midpoint of our TSR model would have projected when we announced it in 2019. Our plans contemplate meaningful investments in associate hourly rates as well as investments in delivering greater value for our customers and enhancing our digital capabilities.

Speaker 3

We expect these investments and the impact of cycling COVID-nineteen vaccine revenue will be fully offset by tailwinds in our model and allow us to grow adjusted net earnings per diluted share to between $3.75 and $3.85 The tailwinds in our 2022 plan include sales leverage from growing identical sales without fuel between 2% and 3%. We also expect to deliver cost savings of $1,000,000,000 incremental alternative profit growth largely in line with 2021 and underlying improvement in Kroger Health Profitability, excluding vaccine income. Fuel profitability is expected to be relatively flat year over year as gallon growth is offset by slightly lower fuel margins. In terms of quarterly cadence for identical sales without fuel and EPS growth, we expect identical sales without fuel in quarter 1 and Quarter 2 will be above the midpoint of our 2% to 3% range as we expect heightened inflation will continue in the first half of the year. We would expect our second half identical sales without fuel to be below the midpoint of our range as we expect inflation to moderate later in the year as we cycle higher inflation from the second half of twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3

Regarding adjusted EPS, we would expect Quarter 1 to be above the annual growth rate range of 2% to 5%, quarter 2 to be below the range and the second half of the year to be within the range. Turning briefly to our capital priorities. We will continue to be disciplined with capital allocation. As you heard this morning, we are increasing capital investments to $3,800,000,000 to $4,000,000,000 in 20 2. This reflects some catch up from the last 2 years where spend was below original guidance due to COVID related constraints as well as an acceleration of our strategic initiatives that will drive longer term earnings growth.

Speaker 3

At the same time, We expect to generate free cash flow of between $2,000,000,000 We will continue to return excess cash to shareholders as evidenced by the acceleration in share buybacks over the last 6 months. And finally, we are looking forward to spending more time with you at our business update tomorrow when you will hear from key members of our leadership team about Our strategic priorities and our path to deliver total shareholder returns of 8% to 11% over time. With that, I'll turn it back to Rodney.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Gary. Kroger is operating from a position of strength, and we have a variety of levers and growth opportunities to continue to build on this As we reflect on 2021, we are incredibly proud of our ability to navigate both a rapidly changing operating environment and evolving customer behaviors. We are obviously in an inflationary environment. Our teams are managing it well. And as Gary talked about, we are doing everything we can to keep prices low for customers, Including our award winning customer rewards program, which includes fuel rewards, our amazing and high quality art brands products and personalized offers and savings for each customer individualized.

Speaker 2

As we look to 2022, We are confident in our ability to continue to differentiate ourselves, serve our customers in new and exciting ways And continue to change the definition of what it means to be a grocery retailer, while never losing sight of what's most important to our customers. And when we do this, we have a clear path to delivering on our commitment of 8% to 11% total shareholder returns over time for our shareholders. Now we look forward to your questions. As Rob shared at the top of the call, We would like to focus all questions on our quarter 4 and full year 2021 results as well as 2022 guidance. We look forward to sharing additional details about our long term strategy tomorrow at our 2022 business update.

Speaker 2

So with that, we'll turn it over for questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. In order to cover a broad range of topics from as many of you as possible, We ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one related follow-up question. Our first question comes from Rupesh Parikh with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good morning and thanks for taking my question and also congrats on a really strong quarter.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Good morning.

Speaker 5

I guess just starting out just on

Speaker 4

the gross margin line, pretty significant improvement in gross margins on a 1 year and 2 year basis. What are the key changes that maybe some more color in terms of what drove that improvement versus what we saw in Q2 and Q3?

Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks, Rupesh. As we mentioned in the prepared remarks and Rodney covered it a moment ago, really proud of the team and the way that we managed The business in Q4 and some of the changes that were happening from I think what the team did, we're obviously laser focused on How can we continue to be effective in managing the sourcing approach to how we are Leveraging the relationships we have with our suppliers and using our data, we've been very effective in using our personalization and promotional activities to really So to target the office of the customer to make sure that they're feeling the value, but that we're also then able to manage those cost increases effectively in the business. I think mix is also another important trend that the team is really focused on is how do we ensure that we're upselling customers to Better quality products and premiumized products and whether it's adding the cedar plank to the salmon or the seasoning to the shrimp and some of those Opportunities are really important in how the merchandising team are really focused on recognizing some consumer trends in how Many of our customers are moving to more meal solutions as well as continuing to look value look for value.

Speaker 3

So Overall, we feel really good around the way the team managed gross margin during the quarter. As we think about going forward into 20 We continue to focus on, of course, the same elements and continue to manage those pieces tightly while also wanting to Make sure we're continuing to deliver value for our customers. And I think to us really we look at it more of how do we manage the model overall across Gross margin and OG and A and pulling the different levers. And certainly, I think we look at 2022 and think that we'll continue to invest in the customer, We'll continue to manage those different levers. I would suspect that we'll see continued investment in gross margin in 2022 and continued operating leverage in OG and A.

Speaker 3

But I think the Q4 is a good example of where we wouldn't expect to see some of the major volatility or the gap in Gross margin, as you know, that we saw across the whole year, for example, in 2021. Just a couple of additional

Speaker 2

things. During COVID, as we've mentioned several times, people have learned how to cook again. And what they're finding is that they can have restaurant quality food That they prepare at home and in numerous categories like the specialty cheese that I mentioned, but there's numerous categories where customers have traded off to Higher quality product and everything that we're seeing, they continue with that. And as the other thing I think it's always important to remind all of us Is that our fresh departments grew faster than the center store departments and our fresh departments have a higher gross rate as well versus the center store. So just a couple of additional things.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Rupesh.

Speaker 4

Great. And then maybe just one follow-up. So with a lot of inflation out there in the marketplace, how do your price gaps look to diversify maybe where they were a few quarters ago?

Speaker 2

If you look at overall, it's pretty close to the cost increases we've incurred. If you look at in a couple of department Strategically, it's not the retail price hasn't increased as much as cost. And we've been able to balance all of those pieces. But We really are using our data to make sure that we understand the elasticity of everything. We are starting to see customers engaging in coupons a little bit more aggressive than before and doing other things in terms of starting to move to our brands where they don't have to compromise on quality and they can save money as well.

Speaker 2

So we are starting to see the beginning of some behavior changes As well, but really early.

Speaker 3

Yes. Maybe the only thing to add Rodney, certainly, as you know, Rupesh, the customer, as we look at our data, Defines value in multiple ways. So part of it is the everyday price, part of it is the promotions. It includes our fuel rewards and all the personalization that we offer. And I'll say if we look at our position as we end the year from where we started, we feel very good about the way in which we've been able to deliver value for the customer.

Speaker 3

And when we look at Our price position, we feel we've been able to maintain a very strong position with the customer in terms of how they would perceive the value of the Kroger basket and the value that Kroger is delivering.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. Thank you.

Speaker 4

I'll pass it along.

Speaker 3

Thanks.

Operator

The next question is from Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hey, good morning, everyone. A nice quarter and guide. My question is, the comp guide is solid for next year, and we're a little surprised That how good, the EBIT flow through or the margin still looks, given all the cost pressures on the WAVE side, you mentioned some things on the gross margin. You mentioned tailwinds, but I wanted to put it to you holistically and hear your reaction to this question.

Speaker 2

Yes, I'll start and let Gary get into some more of the details. I think one of the things that's to meet your question's Great. But the thing that I think is really important to remember is the things that we continue to do to take costs out of our System all across everything and we would expect to be able to take another $1,000,000,000 of cost out. And as you know, last year, we took over $1,000,000,000 out and that was the 4th consecutive year. So through process Change and really it's becoming a capability that the organization has that's really critical to be able to afford To do some of the things that we're doing.

Speaker 2

The other thing is alternative profit and some of the other things related to that Continues to change the fundamental business model in a positive way that inflation doesn't affect the same way And the profitability of that part of the business is significantly higher than the traditional grocery store Would be as well. And Gary, any additional stuff? Well, I think

Speaker 3

you summarized it well Rodney. I think Simeon, We feel about it as you look at our 2021 results and then you think about our guidance 'twenty two, it really demonstrates the strength in that, the overall diversity of our model now and the different levers that we're To pull to make sure that we're investing in our associates, investing in our customers and still able to deliver a strong return for our shareholders. And We would agree with you that 2022 is a year where we do expect to make significant investments, whether it's around continuing to support the customer and drive growth in our business, Investing in our associates, investing in digital, and of course, we will be cycling some COVID vaccine revenue that will be lower in 2022 than 'twenty one. But Rodney mentioned the cost savings and alternative profit benefits that we see within the model. We do continue to expect obviously to generate sales leverage And as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, health and wellness will certainly have some headwinds from COVID vaccines, but we believe there's Continued opportunity to improve the underlying profitability in health and wellness as well in 2022.

Speaker 6

And maybe related, the value conscious customer, are you seeing any signs of trade down? Are you seeing customers trade out? Are you seeing any decisions in the store that leads you to see that the customer is feeling a little more pinched?

Speaker 2

Yes. What the customers are telling us is that They're changing their spend behavior outside of food more than food, which obviously makes sense. They also have found that eating at home is a lot more affordable than going out to restaurants. They're able to stretch their budget this way that way as Well, and as I mentioned a second ago, we are seeing people starting to engage in coupons and some of those It seems a little more than before, but nothing substantial so far. And we really feel good about the way we're positioned with And if you look at our connection to that customer segment, it actually improved in the Q4 versus prior year.

Speaker 2

And what customers are finding is our fresh departments are a huge strength and then they're able to get Personalized rewards and engage with us on promotional items and things like that.

Operator

The next question is from John Heinbockel with Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

So Ron, I want to start with, If you look at the $1,000,000,000 of cost takeout, right, how does that roughly break out between COGS and O and A? And how has that changed over the last 3 or 4 years. Is it shifted more to O and A or it stayed relatively consistent?

Speaker 2

Yes. If you look at overall, it would be more cost driven. Now goods not for resell, do you put it in cost or do you put it in COGS because you can argue either 1. But it's more driven by process change and eliminating work. Obviously, sourcing is an important component of it.

Speaker 2

Goods not for resell is incredibly important as well. If you look at the mix, the mix has been pretty Over the last 4 years, if you look at our expectations for 2022, Gary, it would be pretty similar to 2021. I mean, it might be 5% difference, but not much. Right.

Speaker 3

Yes. No, I think the only thing, John, that's really accelerated over the last couple of years, I completely agree with Rodney around the sourcing benefits and the Taking cost out of the operation, the one thing that, as you know, we've talked about is we invested in digital to ensure that we're winning the customer to build that $10,000,000,000 That we talked about and we did that sometimes recognizing that there'd be some inefficiency in our model. And so I think one of the areas that we've been able to accelerate It's taking cost out of the digital sort of cost to serve a customer, if you like, as we can leverage more efficiency in that Scale and that's become a tailwind this year and will over last year and will be in 2022 as part of the cost structure. That's probably the one area that's Maybe changed a little bit over the last couple of years, but I completely agree with

Speaker 2

Rodney on the balance. It's pretty consistent. John, Gary's last point It's incredibly important and everybody on the call you've all heard us talk about job 1 is don't lose the customer as they switch to be in a combination of digital and in store. And then over time, we'll figure out a way to make that customer just as profitable as a customer that traditionally shopped in a store. So I think Gary's last point is really important.

Operator

And then

Speaker 7

maybe talk about the how Fuel Rewards Performs in an environment where price per gallon may be approaching $4 right? How it performs? And then do you do anything differently? I don't think the plan, the program construct would change, but does it or does your marketing change, because you would think in this environment, Fuel Rewards is way more

Speaker 2

Your belief and comment is correct. What we find is Customers find it very helpful and as fuel prices go up, they engage in the fuel rewards more. Obviously, we continue to leverage fuel rewards in ways that make sense for different customer segments because different segments engaged Differently in fuel rewards. Obviously, we would prefer for fuel not to be at $3 or $4 a gallon, But we're going to do everything we can to help the customer stretch their budget as much as we can.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thank

Speaker 2

you. Thanks, John. Thanks, John.

Operator

The next question is from Greg Badishkanian with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Good morning. This is Spencer Hanus on for Greg. I just want to follow-up on the fiscal adjusted gross margins for a minute. Did you see any change in the competitive environment that allowed you to Pass through more costs, we know that Walmart's U. S.

Speaker 5

Gross margin grew up 54 basis points last quarter. So curious if that provided an opening for you guys. And then should we look at the 4Q performance as a good run rate for 2022?

Speaker 2

Yes, the first part of that, I wouldn't say that we saw it really change any differently. Obviously, Walmart is one competitor, but there's numerous competitors out there. And what we're trying to do is to make sure that we're balancing inflation and helping the customer stretch their budget as much as we can. And we continue to invest in pricing in areas that matter most to customers. So we really are we wouldn't Consider it easier or harder.

Speaker 2

It's just part of the overall managing the business. In terms of looking forward, Gary, I'll let you Answer that part?

Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks, Rodney. Spencer, as you know, we don't tend to give detailed guidance on the puts and takes in gross margin rate and OG and A rate because we Much more view it as how do we manage the business as a whole to drive sustainable earnings growth. I would say that I mentioned In one of the earlier responses that we would expect to continue to invest in the customer in 2022. And we would also actually expect to see some accelerated advertising costs too because we're going to Obviously, continue to grow the business and we'll talk about tomorrow some of the digital growth opportunities that we're focused on as well.

Speaker 3

So I think as we look at the total year, We still expect some investment in gross margin in 2022, but we'd also continue to expect to see significant OG and A leverage as well In many areas with the cost savings that Rodney mentioned, and certainly we wouldn't expect the gap between those two to be anywhere near As wide as it was when you look at the full year results in 2021. So I wouldn't take the 4th quarter as This is sort of the number to use, but I would certainly expect us to be tight in managing those. And we do believe, as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, all the work the team has done around Sourcing, connecting with customers, driving our strategy to deliver value for customers gives us confidence in the overall guidance that we share for next year.

Speaker 5

Got it. That's helpful. And then fuel profitability is up significantly versus 2019 despite the rising prices, which is typically a headwind To that, to profitability. So I understand that you expect profitability to be down this year a little bit, but how sustainable do you think it is to step up versus 'nineteen? And then could you just remind us how much operating profit the fuel business contributed in 4Q just so we can better back into how the core performed?

Speaker 3

Sure. Yes, it's a great question on fuel. As you know, we talk about this each year and we used to base our assumptions On a sort of a 3 to 5 year trend and if you look at the last 3 to 5 years, really fuel profitability has continued to improve pretty consistently As we look at the trends in our business and how our fuel reward program is connected and what a great job our team has done in managing Fuel margins, I do think there's a bit of little bit of left pocket, right pocket in some of that, of course, as well because we spend a tremendous amount of money in rewarding customers giving up to Over $1 a gallon off a discount for customers that are highly engaged in the program. So I think it's important to remember that there are two dimensions to it, and We recognize that in our gross margin on the supermarket business and don't flow it through on the fuel side because the redemption of those points is tied to when you spend the Kroger In the store online, not tied to specifically the fuel usage. So that's an important factor to remember.

Speaker 3

We believe that the fuel business has sustained improvement in profitability, so we're less focused on the historical trends now because we believe the has changed structurally and we'd expect that to be maintained for us and also because of the strength in our value proposition with the customer. We don't specifically call out details on fuel and total profitability. I would say that actually broadly speaking, the tailwind on fuel in the 4th quarter Largely aligned with the headwind in LIFO, so the 2 of those pretty much offset each other during the quarter.

Speaker 2

One other thing on fuel that our team 2 or 3 years ago, we restructured our procurement team in fuel and they've also made progress relative To the market on cost of goods, which has been helpful for that business as well.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Spencer.

Operator

The next question is from Michael Lasser with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. How much did inflation contribute to IDs in 4Q? And how much Do you expect inflation to contribute to IDs in the year ahead? And as part of that, it does look like You're expecting IDs to still be positive in the second half of the year.

Speaker 8

Does that mean you expect the total number of meal occasions In the second half of the year, number of meal occasions at home should remain positive?

Speaker 2

If you look at, as Gary mentioned, we would expect inflation in the second half of the year to moderate just because it's Cycling the inflation from the second half of this year or last year, I guess now. Overall, as you know, we operate Successfully in every operating environment, whether it's inflationary or deflationary, and we're doing everything we can to minimize the impact on our customers. If you look at overall, we would expect the business to continue to grow. And then part of that is really the Seamless ecosystem, all together what we're finding is we get a bigger part of their overall household spend. We also if you look at total households, we had good numbers on total households for the Q4 versus 2020 2019 and we would and what we find is that once we get a new customer, we're able to move The loyalty ladder over time because of the experience they get from our associates on a customer experience, the seamless ecosystem, Fresh and good value plus we're able to start personalized rewards for them.

Speaker 2

So we would expect to be able to move those new customers up the loyalty ladder which would Be helpful on identical as well. Gary, anything you want to add?

Speaker 3

No, I think you covered it well. Yes. Thank you,

Speaker 8

Michael. My follow-up question is, Ravi, the percentage of grocery units that are in promotion is still about 500 basis points below where it was prior to the pandemic and prior to the pandemic that metric for their industry had been very consistent over time. So why is it that the industry is just going to be less promotional moving forward than it has been in the past?

Speaker 2

Yes. Relative to the industry, I wouldn't have as much detail on that. If you look at our Revenue, our sales on promotion, it's pretty much very similar today as it was before the pandemic. It's really It's something we track on a regular every week or whatever. During the pandemic, There were promotions we didn't do just because there were some items you couldn't get product.

Speaker 2

And obviously, you don't want to promote an item where you don't have enough inventory to support the Product. In some cases, that's still the case. But overall, our promotional activity is pretty similar to what it was before the pandemic.

Speaker 3

I think, Michael, just to add that, I think that's Rodney's comments already what causes us to believe that when we talk to our customers and look at our data, we feel we're in Very good position relative to the value of customers receiving from Kroger in this environment and our ability to Continue to deliver value for our customers and maintain a strong perception as customers continue to evolve into 2022 and beyond. And one of the things I think it's

Speaker 2

important to remember, we would track internally on sales on promotion, not items on promotion. So it's volume weighted as well, I think is an important point too.

Speaker 8

Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Michael.

Operator

The next question is from Edward Kelly with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Yes. Hi, guys. Good morning.

Speaker 4

Good morning.

Speaker 9

I wanted to ask you about labor because you brought it up on the call. But can you just provide a little bit more color on sort of like what's going on in the labor front right now? I mean, you have a very Strong history of being fair, right? Like I think if you take an objective view here, that seems to be the case. But as we saw with Denver, These renewals now can be costly and there are other big contracts coming up.

Speaker 9

I guess how has the dialogue been? It does seem like you're poised to see some acceleration of inflation. I wonder if you agree with that and quantify. And then what are you doing to offset that pressure, things like automation in addition to some of the cost saves stuff?

Speaker 2

Yes. As you know, When we embarked upon restock Kroger several years ago, we made the commitment that we would accelerate our associate wages. And as Gary mentioned, now we incrementally it's about $1,200,000,000 per year that we are investing and supporting our associates. We think supporting our associates is incredibly important and what we're always trying to do is to make sure that we have Solid wages, strong wages and industry leading benefits, which we do have And making sure that we're keeping food affordable for customers. And it's a balance that we're always trying to do.

Speaker 2

Obviously, We work with the unions, but it's we want to make sure that our business is Sustainable for the long term and we're creating jobs long term and we're creating career opportunities. And if you look at our store directors, 70% started out As an hourly associate, if you look at department heads, almost all started out as hourly part time associates. And those are things that are incredibly important. So it's obviously a balance. We've strategically several years ago Decided to invest more in wages because we thought it was important to do.

Speaker 2

And what we find is over time, it also reduces turnover. And when you have turnover reduction, obviously, the productivity of somebody that's been working for us for a couple of years is higher Then a new hire. It really gets back to the cost saves that Gary and I both talked about. Literally, you're looking for every single thing where you can stock something in a different way to because if you save a second Across the company, it's about $14,000,000 So, you're looking for every single thing that you can do anywhere in the store, Anywhere in a plant or warehouse to be able to eliminate waste and we believe that we have a Core competency now on how to do that and those are things that are allowing us to make the investments in our associate wages. I think Gary over the last what 4 years our average hourly rate is up 22%.

Speaker 2

And we've been able to obviously do that at the same time on Significantly lowering our OG and A expense.

Speaker 3

Yes. Maybe just a couple of things to add, Rodney. When Rodney talked about the last 4 years and the investment we've made, I wouldn't think of that as being the end of the journey when we announced our TSR model. We We're actually fully expecting as we look out towards 2025 that we will continue to invest in our associates and our model when we announced the TSR model of 8% to 11% growth. We actually did expect that we would continue to invest not just over 'eighteen, 'nineteen and 'twenty, but continue to invest 'twenty one through 2025.

Speaker 3

So It's always been something that we contemplate in our model. We kind of felt that this was something that would come. And now admittedly, the last 12 months obviously have changed the landscape a little bit. So I would say we've pulled forward some of that thinking and we would fully expect within our guidance that we've shared 2022 will be a higher number in wage investment than And again, it was fully part of our CSR model. We'll talk a little bit about it tomorrow.

Speaker 3

But to Rodney's point, one of the reasons that we're increasing our capital investments in 2022 beyond the sort of catch up of some of the things that were slowed down by COVID is we are going to be investing more in technology. We still feel like as proud as we are of the $1,000,000,000 we've saved plus for the last 4 years. We still think there's a lot of opportunity to use technology even more effectively Increase efficiency over the next few years as we continue to invest in average hourly rates and Mary Anne Agott will share a little bit more color on that when we see you tomorrow as well.

Speaker 9

Great. Thanks guys.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Ed.

Operator

The next question is from Michael Montani with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hi, thanks for taking the question. The first question I had was just around the ID sales that you reported. I was wondering if you could discuss What kind of cost increases you all were seeing in terms of a percentage, and how much you're able to pass through? And then also what your outlook would be For that same basis for 2022?

Speaker 2

If you look within the quarter, it was pretty Consistent obviously and you'll have in the 4th quarter especially you'll have some weather that drives it. If you look at So far this quarter, it would look pretty similar to last to the 4th quarter on IDs. Overall on cost increases for the most part, they were passed through, but not every area within the department. So it's Really balancing all of the different pieces in terms of cost increases and trying to minimize the impact on the customer.

Speaker 10

And then I guess just the outlook for 'twenty two, like if we look at the U. S. FDA, they're calling for I think 2 point 5 3.5% full year inflation for this year, is that a good benchmark for us to use without any better information would you say?

Speaker 2

Well, yes, that we would be using the same data source, but we would expect within the year would be Meaningfully higher in the first half versus the second half. But somebody on Gary's team could Probably you've gotten a PhD on the amount of time that he's spent on trying to estimate inflation. And at the end of the day, you basically end up in that spot. We would expect SNAP, just the pure number of SNAP households to be a headwind. But what we find on SNAP is some people switch to buying items with credit card cash and other things As well.

Speaker 2

And the other piece of our guidance would reflect in our health and wellness business, there's some third party Plans that weren't profitable that we also are going to move away from or have moved away from that's impacted our number on our guidance as well.

Speaker 3

The only other thing I would add, Rodney shared this earlier in the Q and A, but we are seeing Customers tell us that as inflation is certainly higher in food, which obviously we're all focused on, but inflation is obviously higher Pretty much everywhere in the economy right now and actually whereas maybe a few months ago customers were telling us they were eating more food at home Because of concerns around COVID, some of that shifted more to while food at home inflation is higher actually relative to other inflation and how I need to Food at home is more attractive in terms of helping me be able to manage my budget and manage my dollars. So I think there's a lot of factors that are impacting that outlook that we're obviously using the best information we can to forecast and Feel good about the guidance that we've shared and our ability to manage different levels if things change, but we recognize that crystal ball isn't perfect and we'll continue to be dynamic in the way we manage it.

Speaker 10

Great. And just the follow-up question in terms of expense outlook was in light of the $1,000,000,000 plus of gross cost out, is there a certain kind of ID sales level that you would need probably to leverage that you could discuss and how much vaccine contribution did you have in 'twenty one that needs to cycle now in 'twenty two?

Speaker 2

As Gary mentioned on the vaccines, that is something we factored into the guidance overall and it's just Part of the total puzzle, we would also expect some of that to be offset because we are able to Provide more of the regular vaccines that we always have and some of that focus that went on vaccines, we'll be able to Acquire additional customers to offset some of that. So all of that is factored into the guidance we gave. On the identical sales, right now, as long as we can continue to get the cost out, we're able to leverage Pretty modest amounts of identical in terms of being able to leverage.

Speaker 3

Yes, there's a lots of puts and takes, as you heard us mention, in our 2022 guidance overall, and we would expect there to be cost increases, obviously, from Average hourly wage and we continue to invest in the customer experience. But overall, factoring In all the elements of our model, we would expect to generate leverage and our OG and A rate would improve in over 2021 based on all the different pieces coming together in our model. So within 2022 specifically with that 2% to 3% IDs,

Speaker 2

Thanks, Michael.

Operator

This will be our last question and it comes from Ken Goldman with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Hi, thanks. I'll make it quick. Just to build on Ed's question, can you elaborate a bit, if possible, on how we should think about the risk of labor this year. I was struck a little bit by how much time Gary spent on the subject and a little bit of It kind of felt like a warning to investors, frankly. So if there's any data you can provide on what percentage of your workers are up for renegotiation this year or whatever metric is appropriate, that would be great.

Speaker 2

Yes. If you look at labor overall, it's something that We're proud. We're one of the largest union employers in the United States. And We're focused on providing additional we go in with the ability and assumption that we're going to continue to invest in our associates And we have industry leading benefits and we support their ability to come for a job and make it a career By feeding your future, providing tuition reimbursement and other things to help people continue to achieve a career. So we're always balancing all of the pieces.

Speaker 2

So our associates are critical to our future success. We invest in our associates and want to make sure that we have a strong sustainable business so that they're able to Support their families as well. And there's nothing more inspiring than when you're in a store and somebody talks about the other day I was at Ralphs and Somebody was talking about how they were able to send 4 of their kids to college and one was a doctor and one was An attorney and those are the kind of things that is incredibly inspiring to hear our associates talk about.

Speaker 3

And Ken, I think just one thing to add. We are obviously trying to listen to feedback carefully and we've got a sense that there was a desire to hear more about Our overall strategy, as we shared in the prepared comments, we feel really good about the investments we have made and are continuing to make in our associates. And we have a team that's Very experienced in managing those relationships, but we wanted to make sure as we've had some feedback that we'd like more color that we try and listen to investor feedback and wanted to make sure we address that in the prepared remarks.

Speaker 11

Sounds good. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Ken. Thank you all for attending today's call. We look forward to engaging with all of you again tomorrow at our business update in Florida. As I always do, I would like to conclude our call by taking a moment to address our associates who many listen in. I'm extremely proud of the things we have accomplished this year and we celebrated many significant milestones.

Speaker 2

Thank you On behalf of all our team for making Kroger better every day, I'm so proud of you. As America's grocer, Kroger is taking action to show our support and solidarity with Ukraine. Today, we are sending an emergency food assistance to Refugees through a grant from the Kroger Cope 0 Hunger 0 Waste Foundation to the UN World Food Programme Ukraine Emergency Fund. We will match all gifts made by our associates and customers up to $250,000 That concludes our earnings 4th quarter earnings call. Thank you.

Speaker 2

And as I said before, we look forward to seeing many of you tomorrow. Take care.

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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