NASDAQ:ERIE Erie Indemnity Q3 2023 Earnings Report $362.97 +1.89 (+0.52%) Closing price 05/7/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$365.00 +2.03 (+0.56%) As of 07:05 AM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings History Erie Indemnity EPS ResultsActual EPS$2.51Consensus EPS $2.06Beat/MissBeat by +$0.45One Year Ago EPS$1.61Erie Indemnity Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$858.94 millionExpected Revenue$830.02 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$28.92 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AErie Indemnity Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date10/26/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateFriday, October 27, 2023Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsErie Indemnity's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, July 24, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, July 25, 2025 at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptQuarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Erie Indemnity Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 27, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 3 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Erie Indemnity Company's 3rd Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. This call was pre recorded and there will be no question and answer session following the recording. Now, I'd like to introduce your host for the call, Vice President of Investor Relations, Scott Beilharz. Speaker 100:00:27Thank you, and welcome, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for this recorded discussion about our Q3 results. This recording will include remarks from Tim DeCastro, President and Chief Executive Officer and Julie Pokowski, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings release and financial supplement were issued yesterday afternoon after the market close and are available within the Investor Relations section of our website, erieinsurance.com. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that today's discussion may contain forward looking remarks that reflect the company's current views about future events. Speaker 100:01:05These remarks are based on assumptions subject to known and unexpected risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties may cause results to differ materially from those described in these remarks. For information on important factors that may cause such differences, please see the Safe Harbor statements in our Form 10 Q filing with the SEC dated October 26, 2023, and in the related press release. This pre recorded call is the property of Erie Indemnity Company. It may not be reproduced or rebroadcast by any other party without the prior written consent of Erie Indemnity Company. Speaker 100:01:40With that, we will move on to Tim's remarks. Tim? Speaker 200:01:44Thanks, Scott, and good morning, everyone. Before we get into our financial results for the Q3, I'd like to share some details around the recent announcement we've Related to our approach to hybrid work. When we began to return to on-site work last year, we acknowledged we would need to learn and adapt. We knew we'd likely evolve as we experiment with new ways of working following the pandemic. Now, After more than a year of working on a variety of hybrid arrangements, we've learned we need a more consistent approach to how and where we work. Speaker 200:02:16We believe it's important to increase the opportunities for employees to work together in person to collaborate and learn from one another. This helps us build stronger bonds with our colleagues and ultimately stronger teams. We also know that in person interaction is important to our business for building the relationships vital to our business model and for upholding our service promise to customers and agents. At the same time, We recognize employees have come to value the flexibility hybrid arrangements offer. With all that considered, we landed on a balanced and innovative approach. Speaker 200:02:52It increases opportunities for in person interactions while giving employees more choice over when they work remotely. Starting in January, employees in hybrid roles will be given an allotment of 52 days to work remotely each year. Employees will work on-site in our offices on days that they are not using in a lot of the remote day. This revised approach will help preserve distinct relationship aspects of our business and the vibrant Erie workplaces that support our collaboration, creativity and success. And now let's turn to our financial performance for the Q3 of 2023. Speaker 200:03:30With respect to the Erie Insurance Exchange, Inflation and weather related events continue to adversely impact our combined ratio. Our year to date net combined ratio climbed from 120.8% Resulting in the surplus decline of 6% since the Q2. However, we remain very strong financially with an overall surplus position $9,100,000,000 Like many other carriers, we've been taking rate increases to improve our profitability. These increases, along with an upsurge in customer shopping in response to rising industry rates, have contributed to the 20 year high for growth in our direct written premium. That growth, which is over 16% year to date, is further supported by strong retention of 91% for personal and commercial lines combined. Speaker 200:04:29With that, I'll turn it over to our Chief Financial Officer, Julia Kalkowski for a more detailed review of our financials. Operator00:04:37Thank you, Tim, and good morning, everyone. As Tim mentioned, the Q3 was similar to the 1st 2 quarters of this year. We are still being impacted by weather related events across our footprint and we continue to experience an elevated combined ratio due to inflationary pressures. That said, I am pleased to share that during the Q3, the A. M. Operator00:04:58Best rating agency once again affirmed our A plus Now let me get into the details at hand for the quarter. As I noted, weather challenges Continued in the 3rd quarter somewhat unexpectedly. Typically, storm activity diminishes in the second half of the year, but our footprint experienced 2 significant wind events in the early part of the third quarter. Catastrophe losses in the quarter also increased due to adverse loss development associated with prior storms occurring earlier this year. Non catastrophe property claims severity continued to grow in both personal and commercial lines, albeit at a more moderate rate than 2020 2, personal auto severity increases of 6% in 2023 are about half the level they were in 2022, While commercial auto and homeowner severity increase remain about 10%. Operator00:06:02To combat the increase in the combined ratio, We continue to take rate increases, tighten underwriting guidelines and implement strategic agency management practices. Keep in mind that our policies span 12 months and we will see a much more significant benefit next year from those increases as they are realized. Even with these rate increases, we are still maintaining high levels of retention, which is complementing our new business growth. For the year, we've increased new business premium more than 36% and total premium more than 16%. With respect to the exchange, the insurance operations we manage, direct written premium growth for the Q3 was 17.6%, driven by substantial growth in new business premium, which grew almost 40% over the prior year. Operator00:06:56With a net combined ratio for the quarter of 124%, the Exchange's policyholder surplus decreased to $9,100,000,000 down nearly $1,000,000,000 from December 31. Now shifting to Indemnity. In the Q3, Indemnity generated net income of 131,000,000 or $2.51 per diluted share compared to $84,000,000 or $1.61 per diluted Thank you, operator. For the 1st 9 months of 2023, net income was 335,000,000 or $6.41 per diluted share compared to $233,000,000 or $4.46 per diluted share for the same period in 2022. Operating income increased 39% or $42,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023 compared to the Q3 of 2022. Operator00:08:00Indemnity also saw an increase in operating income of 33% or $98,000,000 for the 1st 9 months of this year compared to the 1st 9 months of 2022. Indemnity's management fee revenue in the Q3 of 2023 compared to the Q3 of 2022. For the 1st 9 months of 2023, Indemnity saw an increase of $256,000,000 or 16.2 percent compared to the same period of 2022. Management fee revenue allocated to administrative services increased $1,500,000 in the Q3 and $3,500,000 in the 1st 9 months of 2023 compared to the same periods in 2022. Turning to Indemnity's cost of operations for policy issuance and renewal services, commissions increased $45,000,000 in the 3rd quarter and $116,000,000 in the 1st 9 months of 2023 compared to the same periods in 2022. Operator00:09:13The increases in agent compensation in both periods were driven by growth in direct and affiliated assumed written premium, partially offset by a decrease in agent incentive compensation. Non commission expenses increased nearly $15,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023 compared to 2022. Underwriting and policy Processing expenses increased almost $3,000,000 primarily related to increased underwriting report costs. Information Technology costs increased by almost $1,000,000 driven by increased professional fees. Also administrative and other expenses increased just under $10,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023 compared to the same period in 2022, driven by increases in personnel costs and professional fees. Operator00:10:07For the 1st 9 months of 2023, Indemnity saw an Underwriting and policy processing expenses increased just over $9,000,000 due to increased reporting, personnel and postage costs. Administrative and other costs increased over $20,000,000 due to an increase in personnel costs. Overall, personnel costs were impacted by increased compensation, including higher estimated costs for incentive plan awards. This was partially offset by lower pension costs compared to 2022 due to an increase in the discount rate. The increases in incentive plan costs were driven by improved direct written premiums and policies in force growth and a higher company stock price at September 30, 2023 compared to September 30, 2022. Operator00:11:17Investment income before taxes totaled just over $12,000,000 in the 3rd quarter compared to a loss from investments before taxes of nearly $1,000,000 in the same period of 2022. For the 1st 9 months of 2023, We recorded investment income before taxes of $19,200,000 compared to $300,000 in the 1st 9 months of 2022. As always, we take a very measured approach to our capital management and we maintain a strong balance sheet. For the 1st 9 months of 2023, our financial performance enabled us to pay our shareholders over $166,000,000 in dividends. Thank you again for your time today. Operator00:12:01Now I'll turn the call back over to Tim. Tim? Speaker 200:12:06Thanks, Julie. As we head into the last part of the year, we continue to make progress in our journey to modernize our legacy platforms and enhance our digital capabilities. In September, we launched a pilot for our refreshed workers' compensation platform. The refresh introduces full policy servicing capabilities on our quote, Application and service platform, the introduction of online accounts for our commercial customers and a new billing platform that allows customers to manage their account. The enhanced platform is being piloted in Indiana with plans to roll it out in additional states before the end of this year. Speaker 200:12:43We're also seeing positive impacts of some of the digital enhancements made earlier in the year. Our agents asked for more capabilities to connect with customers through our online account platform. Now, thanks to updates made to our claims status portal earlier in the year, Customers and agents have important claim status information at their fingertips along with many other options, including online auto ID cards and paperless invoicing. In our Q3, we've seen customer engagement and claim status grow by 8% compared to last year at this time. We believe this consistent growth will continue into 2024. Speaker 200:13:21Before we close, I'd like to make note of several recent accolades for our business in our workplace. Forbes has recognized Erie on its 2024 list of America's Best Insurance Companies. Of the 84 companies on the list, Erie was one of only 5 to make the rankings in all five categories. Erie was ranked 1st in permanent life, 5th in term life, 6th in auto, 7th in renters and 8th in homeowners. Erie was also recently named to Newsweek's list of America's Best Customer Service 2024 in the categories of homeowners and life insurance. Speaker 200:14:01These rankings were based on customers' likelihood to recommend as well as criteria like customer focus, Quality of communication, professional competence, range of services and accessibility. Investors Business Daily is listed in Erie on its 2023 Most Trusted Financial Companies list. The list is based on a survey that asked consumers to rate their financial service providers on attributes they said were most important to them. Erie Rent number 2 in both auto and home insurance and 13th overall. On the workplace side, 3 of our employee affinity networks earned 2023 Diversity Impact Awards from the Global Employee Resource Group Network. Speaker 200:14:45This is the world's largest network of employee resource groups, business resource groups and diversity councils dedicated to making measurable progress on diversity, equity and inclusion. Fred Johnson, Vice President of the Wisconsin branch and Executive Sponsor of Erie's African American Affinity Network Was also one of 6 recipients of the network's Diversity Impact Executive Sponsor of the Year award for a 3rd straight year. Finally, our Future Focus internship program has been named to the Rising Insurance Star executive list of the industry's 50 best internship programs for the 3rd consecutive year. The Future Focus program has helped launch the careers of hundreds of current area employees We started as interns and it continues to serve as an important talent pipeline. 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There are 3 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Erie Indemnity Company's 3rd Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. This call was pre recorded and there will be no question and answer session following the recording. Now, I'd like to introduce your host for the call, Vice President of Investor Relations, Scott Beilharz. Speaker 100:00:27Thank you, and welcome, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for this recorded discussion about our Q3 results. This recording will include remarks from Tim DeCastro, President and Chief Executive Officer and Julie Pokowski, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings release and financial supplement were issued yesterday afternoon after the market close and are available within the Investor Relations section of our website, erieinsurance.com. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that today's discussion may contain forward looking remarks that reflect the company's current views about future events. Speaker 100:01:05These remarks are based on assumptions subject to known and unexpected risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties may cause results to differ materially from those described in these remarks. For information on important factors that may cause such differences, please see the Safe Harbor statements in our Form 10 Q filing with the SEC dated October 26, 2023, and in the related press release. This pre recorded call is the property of Erie Indemnity Company. It may not be reproduced or rebroadcast by any other party without the prior written consent of Erie Indemnity Company. Speaker 100:01:40With that, we will move on to Tim's remarks. Tim? Speaker 200:01:44Thanks, Scott, and good morning, everyone. Before we get into our financial results for the Q3, I'd like to share some details around the recent announcement we've Related to our approach to hybrid work. When we began to return to on-site work last year, we acknowledged we would need to learn and adapt. We knew we'd likely evolve as we experiment with new ways of working following the pandemic. Now, After more than a year of working on a variety of hybrid arrangements, we've learned we need a more consistent approach to how and where we work. Speaker 200:02:16We believe it's important to increase the opportunities for employees to work together in person to collaborate and learn from one another. This helps us build stronger bonds with our colleagues and ultimately stronger teams. We also know that in person interaction is important to our business for building the relationships vital to our business model and for upholding our service promise to customers and agents. At the same time, We recognize employees have come to value the flexibility hybrid arrangements offer. With all that considered, we landed on a balanced and innovative approach. Speaker 200:02:52It increases opportunities for in person interactions while giving employees more choice over when they work remotely. Starting in January, employees in hybrid roles will be given an allotment of 52 days to work remotely each year. Employees will work on-site in our offices on days that they are not using in a lot of the remote day. This revised approach will help preserve distinct relationship aspects of our business and the vibrant Erie workplaces that support our collaboration, creativity and success. And now let's turn to our financial performance for the Q3 of 2023. Speaker 200:03:30With respect to the Erie Insurance Exchange, Inflation and weather related events continue to adversely impact our combined ratio. Our year to date net combined ratio climbed from 120.8% Resulting in the surplus decline of 6% since the Q2. However, we remain very strong financially with an overall surplus position $9,100,000,000 Like many other carriers, we've been taking rate increases to improve our profitability. These increases, along with an upsurge in customer shopping in response to rising industry rates, have contributed to the 20 year high for growth in our direct written premium. That growth, which is over 16% year to date, is further supported by strong retention of 91% for personal and commercial lines combined. Speaker 200:04:29With that, I'll turn it over to our Chief Financial Officer, Julia Kalkowski for a more detailed review of our financials. Operator00:04:37Thank you, Tim, and good morning, everyone. As Tim mentioned, the Q3 was similar to the 1st 2 quarters of this year. We are still being impacted by weather related events across our footprint and we continue to experience an elevated combined ratio due to inflationary pressures. That said, I am pleased to share that during the Q3, the A. M. Operator00:04:58Best rating agency once again affirmed our A plus Now let me get into the details at hand for the quarter. As I noted, weather challenges Continued in the 3rd quarter somewhat unexpectedly. Typically, storm activity diminishes in the second half of the year, but our footprint experienced 2 significant wind events in the early part of the third quarter. Catastrophe losses in the quarter also increased due to adverse loss development associated with prior storms occurring earlier this year. Non catastrophe property claims severity continued to grow in both personal and commercial lines, albeit at a more moderate rate than 2020 2, personal auto severity increases of 6% in 2023 are about half the level they were in 2022, While commercial auto and homeowner severity increase remain about 10%. Operator00:06:02To combat the increase in the combined ratio, We continue to take rate increases, tighten underwriting guidelines and implement strategic agency management practices. Keep in mind that our policies span 12 months and we will see a much more significant benefit next year from those increases as they are realized. Even with these rate increases, we are still maintaining high levels of retention, which is complementing our new business growth. For the year, we've increased new business premium more than 36% and total premium more than 16%. With respect to the exchange, the insurance operations we manage, direct written premium growth for the Q3 was 17.6%, driven by substantial growth in new business premium, which grew almost 40% over the prior year. Operator00:06:56With a net combined ratio for the quarter of 124%, the Exchange's policyholder surplus decreased to $9,100,000,000 down nearly $1,000,000,000 from December 31. Now shifting to Indemnity. In the Q3, Indemnity generated net income of 131,000,000 or $2.51 per diluted share compared to $84,000,000 or $1.61 per diluted Thank you, operator. For the 1st 9 months of 2023, net income was 335,000,000 or $6.41 per diluted share compared to $233,000,000 or $4.46 per diluted share for the same period in 2022. Operating income increased 39% or $42,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023 compared to the Q3 of 2022. Operator00:08:00Indemnity also saw an increase in operating income of 33% or $98,000,000 for the 1st 9 months of this year compared to the 1st 9 months of 2022. Indemnity's management fee revenue in the Q3 of 2023 compared to the Q3 of 2022. For the 1st 9 months of 2023, Indemnity saw an increase of $256,000,000 or 16.2 percent compared to the same period of 2022. Management fee revenue allocated to administrative services increased $1,500,000 in the Q3 and $3,500,000 in the 1st 9 months of 2023 compared to the same periods in 2022. Turning to Indemnity's cost of operations for policy issuance and renewal services, commissions increased $45,000,000 in the 3rd quarter and $116,000,000 in the 1st 9 months of 2023 compared to the same periods in 2022. Operator00:09:13The increases in agent compensation in both periods were driven by growth in direct and affiliated assumed written premium, partially offset by a decrease in agent incentive compensation. Non commission expenses increased nearly $15,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023 compared to 2022. Underwriting and policy Processing expenses increased almost $3,000,000 primarily related to increased underwriting report costs. Information Technology costs increased by almost $1,000,000 driven by increased professional fees. Also administrative and other expenses increased just under $10,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023 compared to the same period in 2022, driven by increases in personnel costs and professional fees. Operator00:10:07For the 1st 9 months of 2023, Indemnity saw an Underwriting and policy processing expenses increased just over $9,000,000 due to increased reporting, personnel and postage costs. Administrative and other costs increased over $20,000,000 due to an increase in personnel costs. Overall, personnel costs were impacted by increased compensation, including higher estimated costs for incentive plan awards. This was partially offset by lower pension costs compared to 2022 due to an increase in the discount rate. The increases in incentive plan costs were driven by improved direct written premiums and policies in force growth and a higher company stock price at September 30, 2023 compared to September 30, 2022. Operator00:11:17Investment income before taxes totaled just over $12,000,000 in the 3rd quarter compared to a loss from investments before taxes of nearly $1,000,000 in the same period of 2022. For the 1st 9 months of 2023, We recorded investment income before taxes of $19,200,000 compared to $300,000 in the 1st 9 months of 2022. As always, we take a very measured approach to our capital management and we maintain a strong balance sheet. For the 1st 9 months of 2023, our financial performance enabled us to pay our shareholders over $166,000,000 in dividends. Thank you again for your time today. Operator00:12:01Now I'll turn the call back over to Tim. Tim? Speaker 200:12:06Thanks, Julie. As we head into the last part of the year, we continue to make progress in our journey to modernize our legacy platforms and enhance our digital capabilities. In September, we launched a pilot for our refreshed workers' compensation platform. The refresh introduces full policy servicing capabilities on our quote, Application and service platform, the introduction of online accounts for our commercial customers and a new billing platform that allows customers to manage their account. The enhanced platform is being piloted in Indiana with plans to roll it out in additional states before the end of this year. Speaker 200:12:43We're also seeing positive impacts of some of the digital enhancements made earlier in the year. Our agents asked for more capabilities to connect with customers through our online account platform. Now, thanks to updates made to our claims status portal earlier in the year, Customers and agents have important claim status information at their fingertips along with many other options, including online auto ID cards and paperless invoicing. In our Q3, we've seen customer engagement and claim status grow by 8% compared to last year at this time. We believe this consistent growth will continue into 2024. Speaker 200:13:21Before we close, I'd like to make note of several recent accolades for our business in our workplace. Forbes has recognized Erie on its 2024 list of America's Best Insurance Companies. Of the 84 companies on the list, Erie was one of only 5 to make the rankings in all five categories. Erie was ranked 1st in permanent life, 5th in term life, 6th in auto, 7th in renters and 8th in homeowners. Erie was also recently named to Newsweek's list of America's Best Customer Service 2024 in the categories of homeowners and life insurance. Speaker 200:14:01These rankings were based on customers' likelihood to recommend as well as criteria like customer focus, Quality of communication, professional competence, range of services and accessibility. Investors Business Daily is listed in Erie on its 2023 Most Trusted Financial Companies list. The list is based on a survey that asked consumers to rate their financial service providers on attributes they said were most important to them. Erie Rent number 2 in both auto and home insurance and 13th overall. On the workplace side, 3 of our employee affinity networks earned 2023 Diversity Impact Awards from the Global Employee Resource Group Network. Speaker 200:14:45This is the world's largest network of employee resource groups, business resource groups and diversity councils dedicated to making measurable progress on diversity, equity and inclusion. Fred Johnson, Vice President of the Wisconsin branch and Executive Sponsor of Erie's African American Affinity Network Was also one of 6 recipients of the network's Diversity Impact Executive Sponsor of the Year award for a 3rd straight year. Finally, our Future Focus internship program has been named to the Rising Insurance Star executive list of the industry's 50 best internship programs for the 3rd consecutive year. The Future Focus program has helped launch the careers of hundreds of current area employees We started as interns and it continues to serve as an important talent pipeline. This past summer, more than 100 interns from 50 different colleges and universitiesRead morePowered by