CPS Technologies Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 2, 2023

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Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the CPS Technologies Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants have been placed on a listen only mode and we will open the floor for your questions and comments after the presentation. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Chuck Griffith, Chief Financial Officer of CPS Technologies. Sir, the floor is yours.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Today, I'm joined by Brian Mackey, our President and CEO. We look forward to discussing our quarterly results with you. But first, Chris Witty, our Investor Relations Advisor will provide a brief Safe Harbor statement. Chris?

Operator

Thanks, Chuck, and good morning, everyone. Before we begin the business portion of today's call, I

Speaker 1

would like to point out that statements

Operator

in this conference call that are not strictly historical are forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and should be considered as subject to the many uncertainties that exists in CPS' operations and environment. These events include, but are not limited to, the wars in Ukraine and Israel, other geopolitical events, economic conditions, market demands and competitive factors. Such factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those in any forward looking statements. Additional information can be found in our filings with the SEC. Now, I'll turn the call over to Brian to offer his perspective on the 3rd quarter results, Afterwards, Chuck will review the financial results in greater detail.

Operator

Brian?

Speaker 1

Thanks, Chris. Today, we're pleased to announce 3rd quarter revenue of $6,300,000 and an operating profit of approximately $131,000 for the period ending September 30, 2023. As discussed on our previous earnings call, the quarter was negatively impacted by shipment timing With certain deliveries being pushed into the last 3 months of 2023, our original expectations for 2023 as a year are unchanged. The company remains on track for 2023 to be its best year ever in terms of revenue as well as underlying results. Chuck will review this further in a moment.

Speaker 1

During the Q3, we announced 2 noteworthy wins for the company. First, we received an award valued at approximately $7,700,000 from a major long standing customer for power module component and solutions. This contract represents a 50% increase for that customer over the prior 4 quarters, with the systems to be employed primarily in high speed rail, Wind turbines and other green energy applications. This client is a multinational semiconductor manufacturer based overseas, which has come to rely on our unique capabilities for its cutting edge requirements and we're pleased to once again provide modules for the many important markets they serve. Also, we recently announced that the company had received a Phase 1 SBIR award valued at approximately $200,000 from the United States Department of Energy, our first such grant from the DOE.

Speaker 1

This study entitled modular radiation shielding For transportation and use of micro reactors, we'll be led by Matthew Karnick, a talented material scientist at our company, opening further potential customer penetration avenues for CPS. Notably, this is our 5th SBIR or STTR award in the past 2 years. It's the first of these 5 from the Department of Energy and the 3rd different member of our team to win an SBIR award within the last couple of years. Our renewed focus on R and D continues to provide external funds to help bolster our intellectual property portfolio, validate our long term strategic vision and support our goal of accelerating the growth trajectory of our top line. Aside from these wins, the company is actively pursuing opportunities across all its end markets from military armor to transportation products, electronic And Industrial Applications.

Speaker 1

The overall outlook for the company remains bright. HybriTek armor panels from Kinetic Protection, And protection system upgrades by the Navy and we're pursuing opportunities across the rest of the fleet. We had previously discussed that We will be testing other iterations of our armor and as it related to a potential ground vehicle armor opportunity. Unfortunately, that testing did not go as well as anticipated. We're working to address the issues uncovered during those tests, This will further delay any new order for our armor with this potential customer.

Speaker 1

The continued growth of hermetic packaging for use in aerospace, defense and power also positions CPS for further growth going forward as well increasing demand for our metal matrix composite industrial solutions. We believe our unique technology and innovative approach to solving complex design problems along with our expanding array of customers in the government and commercial space Place us at the beginning of our next phase of growth. Whether it's electric vehicles, trains, aerospace and defense or electronic applications, CPS can provide the best approach to advancing our clients' new product development initiatives. Our strong balance sheet can and will Provide us with the financial flexibility to continue to invest in increasing our product development capabilities and pursuing opportunities that will accelerate In the near term, we anticipate a very strong finish to the current fiscal year and remain on track for it being our best performance ever. I continue to be upbeat about the company's ability to convert bids into backlog and backlog into revenue as we leverage our innovative solutions across a growing set of markets and new industry applications.

Speaker 1

I'll now temporarily turn the call over to Chuck to provide more details Our financial results after which I'll provide some additional comments. Chuck? Thanks, Brian. As was mentioned earlier, the company's revenue totaled $6,300,000 in the Q3 compared to $6,700,000 last year, With the slight decline year over year due to shipment timing and the delay of certain deliveries into the Q4. Given our solid overall backlog, We anticipate posting a very strong finish to fiscal 2023.

Speaker 1

At this time, we fully expect to significantly exceed 2022 revenue total of $26,600,000 Gross profit in the 3rd quarter totaled $1,200,000 or approximately 20% of sales compared with $1,900,000 or roughly 28 percent of sales last year. The decrease in both Profit and gross margin year over year reflects the lower level of sales as well as some inventory write offs due to higher scrap than usual during the quarter. We anticipate 4th quarter gross margins to be more in line with the 2nd quarter. Selling, general and administrative Expenses totaled $1,100,000 in the 3rd quarter versus $1,200,000 in the prior year period. This SG and A amount represents a notable decrease from our SG and A numbers in the first half of this year.

Speaker 1

The company generated operating income of 100 $1,000 in the 3rd quarter compared with approximately $709,000 last year and posted net earnings of $0.01 per diluted Share versus $0.07 per diluted share in fiscal 2022. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $8,800,000 of cash, Up from $8,300,000 at the end of 2022, reflecting working capital changes and the impact of the decline in deferred revenue. Trade accounts receivable as of September 30, 2023 totaled $5,000,000 versus $3,800,000 as of December 31, 2020 Our other receivable account balance was $17,000 compared to $686,000 at the end of last year, primarily reflecting the receipt of the employee retention tax credit in April. Inventories totaled $4,800,000 as of September 30, compared to $4,900,000 at the start of the fiscal year. Turning to the liability side, payables and accruals totaled $3,200,000 At the end of the Q3 versus $2,700,000 at the end as of December 31, 2022.

Speaker 1

Deferred revenue decreased from $2,800,000 at the end of 2022 to $1,700,000 as of September 30, 2023. As a reminder, deferred revenue predominantly represents prepayments for large orders to help appraise the impact on cash of large inventory A number of these were shipped in 2023 resulting in the recognition of revenue and thus a decrease in deferred revenue. So thank you. And now Brian will discuss his 1st 90 days at CPS and what he sees for the future. Brian?

Speaker 1

Thanks, Charlie. As everyone may recall, I joined CPS at the beginning of August about 3 months ago. As I expected when I accepted the opportunity to come to CPS, my background is highly relevant to what we're doing here. I've spent many years in leadership positions of technically oriented companies including a focus on material science to achieve growth with the goal of providing advanced solutions to our customers' greatest challenges. I'm excited by a number of things that we have in place today at CPS and by the opportunities that we have before us.

Speaker 1

We have a long history of close relationships with a number of large Stable customers both domestically and abroad, particularly in metal matrix deposits and hermetic packaging. We'll continue to support our customers' growth objectives by providing high quality products that meet their needs. We have a highly capable and motivated team here at CPS as well. 2023 looks to be a record year and we're motivated to build on our own momentum. I'd like to take a moment to focus on just one aspect of our growth strategy, which is externally funded product development.

Speaker 1

As we've mentioned, we've seen a number of recent successes in this area to help build our product portfolio for the future. As a quick review, we completed a Phase 1 SBIR regarding thermal management for the Navy. They then asked us We completed a Phase 1 SPTR regarding the use of tungsten materials for the Army. Again, we will be submitting a Phase 2 proposal to build on what we accomplished in Phase 1. We also completed a Phase 1 SBIR regarding Army helicopter flooring for the United States Army.

Speaker 1

While the Army has elected not to designate any funds For a potential Phase 2 study, our flooring passed its testing in Phase 1 with flying colors. We know that this is of interest to helicopter OEMs and we're pursuing this opportunity. As previously discussed this morning, we're currently working with new funding from the DOE on another Phase 1 SBIR. You can expect to see us continue development efforts to build our product portfolio for the future. These externally funded efforts in conjunction with our internally funded work Are a key part of our plan to add relevant growth paths within the Advanced Materials space.

Speaker 1

These opportunities leverage our know how related to our current products and also take advantage of the technical expertise within our talented team. I'm excited about the future here at CPS. Operator, if you could please open up the line for

Operator

Optimum Sound

Speaker 1

Quality.

Operator

Your first question is coming from Jim McIlree from Dawson James. Your line is live.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Good morning. Can you share with us the bookings and the backlog for the quarter? We don't normally give that information out, But our certainly our backlog is very solid going forward for the next certainly for the next several quarters. I don't think I really want to give out any numbers at this point.

Speaker 1

Specific cloud. Okay. Can you tell us if bookings were greater than revenue? In the trailing 12 months, it's actually exactly even. It's 100% or 1 to 1.

Speaker 1

Okay, great. Thank you. And I'm sorry, Brian, you talked about The externally developed the external development as a source of funding research. And I understand the philosophy behind that and I understand the benefits for it. But what I'd like to try to understand is How large a portion of revenue that would be currently?

Speaker 1

And If you were to get what you wanted out of those projects, what percent of revenue would it be generating, let's say 12 months or 24 months from now? Yes. So the two parts of your question. The revenue from a Phase 1 is Those are typically $200,000 of funding could be $150,000 could be $250,000 but it's typically in that range. Normally a Phase 2 amount of funding for an SBIR would be whereas the Phase 1 of Let's say $250,000 might be over a 9 month period.

Speaker 1

Phase 2 would typically be more around the range of $1,100,000 or $1,200,000 To fund research over a period of 24 months. That's what's most typical from the DoD and DOE. So on the revenue side, it's nice revenue, but it's mostly the value to us is to fund that future growth. The timing of that to translate that into what would be considered a Phase 3 or a commercial effort With funding from literally customers buying those products is going to depend on the success of the Seth, with the Phase 2 and the interest, the nice thing about the DoD is they're typically funding that research because they have a real need. And if you can get to the finish line, Technically, the ideal outcome is that they're ready to purchase and you're going to be scaling up volume to meet those needs.

Speaker 1

And of course, that's going to And on the application and what the technology is that we're working on. So it's difficult to project the revenue, The nice thing about that SBIR with the DoD is again, it's a need that they have, but it also comes with the intellectual property that's developed under that Program, which remains the company's property even though it was funded by the Department of Defense and it also eliminates the need for future competition. So So typically the DoD contracting office is going to say we need competitive bids to make sure we're getting competitive pricing. And the response to that is That the original SBIR proposal was a competitive bid during Phase 1 and the reward for the small business Succeeding in its technical development is the singular ownership of that intellectual property for many, many years after that. Right.

Speaker 1

Understood. Got it. Okay. And then, so it sounds like Q4 is going to be a nice rebound from Q3. That's right.

Speaker 1

And because of that, will you The acquiring additional working capital, you mentioned in your commentary that Working capital was a source of cash in Q3. So can we expect a reversal of that in Q4? Probably, but certainly it won't be an issue for us. We're With almost $9,000,000 as of the end of the quarter, that's 20 of cash in order to fund Working capital. And as I think you guys know, we've got our $3,000,000 line of credit if we need it with our bank.

Speaker 1

So There's nothing new with it at this point. It hasn't been for a while. But so we do have that extra source if it's necessary. But I don't think it will be. I think We'll still have even with the working capital increase that we may need To generate the higher sales for the quarter, we'll still have we'll still be in very good shape From a

Operator

cash standpoint.

Speaker 1

But we do expect Q4 to be more in line with Q1 and Q2 from this year in a variety of respects Versus what we've experienced currently in Q3. Got it. Okay. That's it for me. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Ron Richards. Your line is live. Hey, guys. On the November 2022 conference call, it was mentioned that The Hermetic Packaging revenues will be about $10,000,000 and they're still predicted that those revenues could double By 2024, I was wondering if you saw that projection for $20,000,000 of revenues in the Medic Packaging for 2024?

Speaker 1

I would say not. We've had some reductions from one of our major hermetic package Customers, if we take I mean you can't, but if we were to take that out, then the The Hermetic Packaging business regarding other customers is growing significantly. We've got One customer in particular that was virtually not well, they were extremely nonmaterial about a year ago and they're going to be well over or they already out of this year well over $1,000,000 and we Expect and hope that that will that will that piece anyway will at least double in this coming year as well in 2024. But in terms of the total doubling of fermented packaging, I don't think that's going to happen. But certainly, It's continuing to grow even in spite of that major customer.

Speaker 1

Yes. It's continuing to grow and it's certainly an area of focus We see opportunities there for us to continue to drive those numbers up, and I think you'll see that going forward.

Operator

Okay. And then one other question on the Navy ships. You're talking about expanding to Other shifts besides the aircraft carriers, do you have any guess on the timeline when you might get some orders for those ships?

Speaker 1

It's an area where we're actively pursuing translating that technology from the aircraft carriers to Other vessels, the timing of that is hard to predict. But we know we've got a good solution there with our partner And we're actively working that, but it's difficult to predict timing.

Operator

Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Your next question is coming from Greg Weaver from Invicta Capital. Your line is live.

Speaker 1

Hi, good morning. Good morning, Brian. So I guess what would you consider the best unexploited opportunities now that you've been at the company for a while and kind of maybe any Well, I think we have a number of opportunities. As just mentioned, I think we have Clearly, we have growth opportunities with InfraMed Packaging. I think we have some interesting things that we're considering within Metal Matrix Composites.

Speaker 1

We also have this ongoing installations of armor solutions on the aircraft carriers, which is exciting, Knowing that we have a solution that the Army is excited by and interested in lightweight, ballistic protection etcetera. I'd say what I consider our 4th category, which is these new things that we're actively working on, I think that's going to yield results. And as I mentioned a minute ago, I mean, when the DoD needs something, they need something. Sometimes you have to wait for their validation process And the right program timing to come along, but I think we've got interesting opportunities there. And this organization as a company, I mean, we're continuing to improve.

Speaker 1

We've got a You've seen a number of changes over the last few years that we're continuing to implement to drive our growth. So I think our customers will see that When it comes to quality of product and things like that, so I'm excited about what we're doing. Okay. And on the L SIC front, that's I mean, There's Ongoing discussions there with the interest of our customers and how we can make those products better and move those to Both improvements in what we're providing on a day to day basis as well as what a next generation of product Would be and how we can address that. So that's where the advantage of these long term relationships where we can have these collaborative discussions, I think it's another area that we're pursuing that can yield results in the future.

Speaker 1

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you. And Chuck, on the Gross margin, you helped a little bit saying there was inventory write offs in the due to scrap in the quarter. But I mean the incremental Flow through is over 100%, right?

Speaker 1

I mean your revenue drop versus the gross profit dollar drop sequentially? And you You didn't burn inventory either. So No. So basically, the biggest individual factor, of course, Was the reduction in revenue and the impact of that on our fixed costs. But the secondary one was, so we had a quality issue with 1 of our major customers.

Speaker 1

We set up some significant reserves for potential returns and we also had to go through our inventory To look at it for those quality issues and we had so we had a number of parts that we ended up Scrapping, now we think that we are close to the root cause for that quality issue and that it should go away soon. But it is something that we're working on to fix. And that's really why we have a fairly large reserve in there In our which reduced revenue and increased our liability when we put when we look at reserve. The reserves that was top line and all out of COGS or added to COGS? Yes.

Speaker 1

That makes sense. Okay. And what product area was this Quality control issue in? It's in the MMC. It's in Alcy.

Speaker 1

It's just kind of an odd Odyssey. Yes. I don't want to get into the science of it because Yes. It's not by area. There was a number of events that came together.

Speaker 1

And as Chuck indicated, we've made a lot of progress on the root cause and then We'll finish that up and turn that to implementation, etcetera. We think the reserve that you see reflected is going to satisfy that, but We're not quite at the end of that road to make sure we're to the bottom of it. All right. So for the current quarter we're in, there's still some yield issues, but The reserve is going to cover that and you absorbed that in Q3? We believe so, yes.

Speaker 1

Right. Okay. So we're back to the I mean you had great margins over the last few quarters. That's one of the things I'm most excited about that you can get the earnings going. So this 30% -ish margin area is not unrealistic then that wasn't a fluke.

Speaker 1

Correct. Yes. We think as this gets cleaned up, we think we'll return to that certainly strongly in that direction what you saw in the first half. We think that's more representative of what you see going forward including this quarter, Q4. Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1

Thank you. I appreciate it and good luck. Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Thank Thank you. That concludes our Q and A session. I'll now hand the conference back President and Chief Executive Officer, Brian Mackey for closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you for joining us today and for your ongoing interest in what we're doing here at CPS Technologies. Look forward to speaking with you again after the end of our fiscal year. If you have any questions in the interim, please reach out to our Investor Relations advisor. If there's no further questions, I think that concludes the call.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, everyone. This concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.

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