Qifu Technology Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 16, 2023

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Qifu Technology Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please also note today's event is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference call over to Ms.

Operator

Karen Ji, Senior Director of Capital Markets. Please go ahead, Karen.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Desmond. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Qifu Technologies' 3rd quarter 2023 earnings conference call. Our earnings release was distributed earlier today and is available on our IR website. Joining me today are Mr. Wu Hai Shen, our CEO Mr.

Speaker 1

Alex Xu, our CFO and Mr. Zheng Yan, our COO. Before we start, I would like to refer you to our Safe Harbor statements in the earnings press release, which applies to this call as we will make certain forward looking statements. Also, this call includes discussions of certain non GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our earnings release, which contains a reconciliation of non GAAP financial measures to GAAP Financial Measures.

Speaker 1

Also, please note that unless otherwise stated, All figures mentioned in this call are in RMB terms. Before we start, Please also note that today's prepared remarks from our CEO will be delivered in English using an AI generated voice. Now, I will turn the call over to Mr. Wu Hai Shen. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining our 3rd quarter earnings conference Since the start of the year, the momentum of China's macroeconomic recovery has softened after rebounding earlier in the year With effective demand for consumer credit also coming in weaker than expected, we promptly adjusted our strategic approach to this new market environment By diversifying our customer acquisition channels and refining operations, all with the clear goal of driving high quality growth and improving profitability, These efforts yielded solid results in Q3. By the end of the quarter, our platform empowered a total of 155 Financial Institutions and cumulatively served more than 49,000,000 users with approved credit lines. Total loan facilitation and origination volume on our platform reached RMB123.1 billion, up roughly 11% year over year. With the quality of our earnings further improving, Our non GAAP net income for the quarter increased by approximately 14% year over year.

Speaker 2

In today's complex macro environment, it is particularly important that we expand our safety cushion by improving profitability. To achieve this, we are optimizing resource allocation across customer acquisition, products, risk management and asset distribution to boost operational efficiency and ultimately drive bottom line growth. Now, I'll walk you through some of the progress we made in this regard during the quarter. To start with, we continue to explore diversified customer acquisition channels and deploy innovative approaches to attract new customers, which not only improved customer acquisition efficiency, but also resulted in notably better quality of new users. In terms of optimizing our customer acquisition channels, we established a partnership with a leading short form video platform Through our embedded finance business in the Q3, leveraging the platform's massive active user base and our ability to accurately profile users and identify risk, we have consistently maintained a leading market share on the platform since the start.

Speaker 2

During the quarter, our embedded finance business generated an impressive 46% sequential increase in the number of new users with approved credit lines. Approximately 33% of total new users with approved credit lines during the quarter were acquired through the embedded finance channel. We also intensified our marketing efforts through innovative marketing approaches during the quarter to attract high quality customers. This was done by deploying more compelling ad placements to expand our customer reach. Based on user profile analysis, Users acquired through innovative marketing methods significantly outperformed those obtained through conventional methods as in terms of educational background, Mortgage and Credit History.

Speaker 2

They also clearly have better risk performance in terms of short term delinquency rates as we observed during the 1st 3 months. With our innovative customer acquisition strategy firmly in place, the proportion of high quality users increased by more than 4 percentage points from July to October. This not only directly complements our existing user base, but also contributes to the stability of our overall risk performance. As a result of these initiatives, the number of new users with approved Credit lines increased by 18% in Q3 sequentially, while unit customer acquisition costs increased only slightly. Moving on to product design, we introduced a loyalty program to enhance engagement of existing users.

Speaker 2

By offering a wider range of value added services, We are effectively enhancing user engagement and retention, which increases our revenue and profit per user. Users who joined the loyalty program demonstrated higher engagement with a double digit increase in both the rate of drawdown and the number of loans borrowed over a certain period of time. Turning to risk, We swiftly responded to the changing market environment. In Q3, we gradually tightened credit standards and upgraded risk models. In particular, we further enhanced the knowledge graph for our broadly defined SME segment.

Speaker 2

By closely analyzing relationships among individual Businesses and Industries, we improved our ability to identify risks within this segment. It's worth noting that there are clear differences between our broadly defined SME segment and SMEs in the traditional sense, as a primarily younger enterprises acquired through online channels. When conducting risk assessments, We placed more emphasis on individual credit history and use business data as a secondary reference. As a result, Credit lines extended to our SME segment are usually smaller, making associated risk much more manageable. Compared to the consumer segment, The SME segment generates much more stable demand and stronger growth potential with similar risk performances.

Speaker 2

Looking ahead, we are confident that there is significant room for growth and value generation over the long term for our broadly defined SME segment, driven by our accurate user identification and differentiated operations. Lastly, We kept pricing at stable levels and leveraged our funding strengths to further optimize our economic model. With relatively ample liquidity in the financial system during the quarter, we further optimized our funding structure by increasing the proportion from larger banks, which reduced our funding costs by another 20 basis points. In terms of ABS, we secured ABS investments from multiple state owned and joint stock banks and top securities firms leading to a 47 basis point decrease quarter over quarter in ABS issuance costs. With the accuracy of user profiling and identification continuously improving, We also further expanded the range of our financial institution partners, strengthening our ability to serve various loan asset segments, With more financial partners coming on board under the ICE or referral model, which further mitigates risk, Our ability to engage with the lower tier user segment has significantly improved.

Speaker 2

As we continue to optimize asset allocation efficiency, We expect our overall profitability to further improve going forward. Now, let me share with you the progress we made on the technology front. Our Technology Solutions business is making solid progress as we expand the array of solutions we offer to cover the entire credit process. During the quarter, we entered into partnerships with 3 additional financial institutions, each from a different category, Adjoint Stock, Internet and Private Bank. To cater to the diverse needs of our banking partners, We adopted various deployment models and are committed to providing them with end to end technology solutions as well.

Speaker 2

Going forward, We will extend our end to end technology solutions to more financial institution partners to scale up our client base. In the long run, We expect a steady increase in the take rate for our Technology Solutions business. Additionally, we continue to invest in cutting edge technologies such Artificial intelligence and large language models. On September 18, we partnered with the China Academy of Information and Communications Technology to officially unveil the 1st domestic standard for large language models in the financial sector. The standard will serve as a crucial reference and benchmark for the design, development, application and review of large language models in finance.

Speaker 2

At the same time, we purchased hundreds of graphics cards and have been exploring the application of AIGC technology To improve efficiency throughout the entire credit process by conducting tests or implementing it in advertising, telemarketing, Loan collection and quality control. For example, our telemarketing system is now able to conduct semantic analysis and extract valuable leads from each conversation improving our telemarketing conversion rate by more than 5%. In addition, around 70% of our image based marketing materials are currently generated by AIGC. In the future, we will use large language models to tag and rate these materials from multiple dimensions to optimize ad placements and boost marketing effectiveness. Looking back at the past three quarters, despite a challenging macro environment, We remain vigilant about market conditions and improved our earnings quality by further optimizing operations and fine tuning our business model.

Speaker 2

Since Q3, certain macro indicators are showing marginal improvement as a result of multiple supporting policies. Against this backdrop, we are confident in our ability to continuously make breakthroughs and create value for our shareholders with better results. With that, I will now turn the call over to our CFO, Alex Xu, who will walk you through our financial results for the quarter.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you, Haisheng. Good morning and good evening everyone. Welcome to our Q3 earnings call. Facing slower than expected macro recovery and worsening consumer sentiment, we proactively took actions in Q3 To optimize our product and service offerings, strengthen relationship with users and key partners, aiming to drive long term sustainable quality growth.

Speaker 3

In Q3, we saw some volatility in asset quality and key leading risk metrics start to fluctuate from historical best levels achieved in previous quarters. Day 1 delinquency was 4.6% in Q3 versus 4.2% in Q2. The uptick in Day 1 delinquency mainly reflect borrowers negative sentiment toward the ongoing micro uncertainties. 30 day correction rate was 86.7% in Q3 versus 87.2% in Q2. This modest decline also was driven by micro weakness.

Speaker 3

Throughout Q3, we have proactively adjust our risk management models and gradually applied more restrictive standards on incoming applications. By late September, we start to As economic conditions remain challenging, We may continue to see some fluctuation of these metrics in the near future, although overall risk level should still be manageable with our continued effort to proactively mitigate risks. Total net revenue for Q3 was $4,300,000,000 versus $3,900,000,000 in Q2 and $4,100,000,000 a year ago. Revenue from credit driven service, Capital Heavy was $3,100,000,000 in Q3, compared to $2,800,000,000 in Q2 $2,900,000,000 a year ago. The year on year growth was mainly due to growth in on balance sheet loans partially offset by decline in expected average tenure of the loans.

Speaker 3

The sequential increase reflected growth in loan balance as well as continued improvement in effective tenants. On balance sheet loans account for over 19% of total loan volume. Overall funding costs further declined by roughly 20 bps with the help of our strong relationship with financial institution partners as well as Additional issuance of ABS. Revenue from platform service, Capital Light was $1,200,000,000 in Q3 compared to $1,100,000,000 in Q2 $1,200,000,000 a year ago. The sequential growth was mainly due to continued For Q3, Capital Light Loan Facilitation, ICE and other tech solutions combined accounts for roughly 56% of the total loan volume compared to roughly 58% in prior quarter.

Speaker 3

We expect this ratio to be roughly stable around this level for the year. We will continue to evaluate different components of our operation and seek a better mix between risk bearing and non risk bearing solutions based on macro environment and operational conditions. In Q3, we saw continued sequential improvement in revenue take rate for both Cap Heavy and Caplight Business As early repayment ratio gradually returned to normal levels and effective tenors gradually extended. During the quarter, average IRR of the loans we originated and or facilitated remained stable Q on Q, well within the regulatory recap requirement. Looking forward, we expect pricing to be fluctuating in a narrow band around this level for the coming quarters.

Speaker 3

Sales and marketing expenses increased 21% Q on Q, but declined 15% year on year. We added over 1,700,000 new credit line users in Q3 compared to 1,500,000 in Q2. Unit cost to acquire new credit line user also increased modestly Q on Q to 306 from 296 in Q2. While we will continue to drive for efficiency in our operation, We may adjust the pace of our new user acquisition based on macro conditions from time to time. As Haixin mentioned, We have made noticeable progress in diversifying our user acquisition channels during the quarter.

Speaker 3

Meanwhile, we will continue to focus As micro uncertainties persist and the credit quality fluctuates, we will continue to take prudent approach to book provisions against prudential credit losses. Total new provision for risk bearing loans in Q3 were approximately $2,100,000,000 and write backs of previous provisions were approximately 600,000,000 Provision coverage ratio, which is defined as total outstanding provision divided by total outstanding delinquent loan Balance between 90 180 days or 5 34% in Q3 compared to 5 11% in Q2. Non GAAP net profit was $1,180,000,000 in Q3 compared to 1,150,000,000 In Q2, effective tax rate for Q3 was over 22% compared to our typical TR of approximately 15%. The higher ETR in Q3 was mainly due to additional withholding tax provision related to cash distribution from onshore to offshore for dividend payment and share repurchase program. Please also note, our 2nd quarter earnings was helped by a tax rebate of approximately 160,000,000 Excluding the tax rebate, non GAAP net income actually grew approximately 16% sequentially in Q3.

Speaker 3

With solid operating results and stable contribution from capital light models, our leverage ratio, which is defined as risk bearing loan balance divided by shareholders' equity was 3.5 times in Q3, Near historically low compared to 3.8 times a year ago, we expect to see the leverage ratio fluctuate around this level in the near future. We generate approximately $1,200,000,000 cash from operations in Q3 compared to $1,800,000,000 in Q2. The decline was mainly due to the change in working capital at the end of the quarter. Total cash and cash equivalent was $8,200,000,000 in Q3 compared to $8,500,000,000 in Q2. Non restricted cash was approximately $4,900,000,000 in Q3 compared to $5,300,000,000 in Q2.

Speaker 3

The sequential decline in cash position was mainly due to increased cash usage in our on balance sheet Lending. As we discussed earlier, we will continue to look for opportunities to deploy resources to launch new initiatives, develop new technologies and expand services offerings. As we continue to generate healthy cash flow from operations, we believe our current cash position is sufficient to support our business development and to return to our shareholders. In June 20, 2023, we announced a share buyback program to repurchase up to $150,000,000 over a 12 month period. As of November 16, 2023, We have bought approximately $80,000,000 worth of ADS in open market at an average price around 16.2 U.

Speaker 3

S. Dollar. We will continue to execute the buyback program in the accordance with the related rules and regulations With the full execution of the repurchase program and the dividend plan, the combined payout ratio will exceed 50%. Going forward, we will continue to optimize our capital allocation plan and make timely adjustment to generate attractive returns to our shareholders. Finally, regarding our outlook, While macro recovery appears slower than expected, we remain confident to achieve our operational target for the year.

Speaker 3

As such, we now expect Q4 total loan volume to be between 116,000,000,000 and 126,000,000,000 And for the full year, total loan volume to be between RMB473 1,000,000,000 and RMB483 1,000,000,000, representing year on year growth of 15% to 17%. As always, this forecast reflects the company's current and the preliminary view, which is subject to material changes. With that, I would like to conclude our prepared remarks. Operator, we can now take some questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. And wait for a name to be announced. For those who can speak Chinese, please kindly ask your question in Chinese first, followed by English translation. In addition, In order to have enough time to address everyone on the call, please keep it to one question and one follow-up and return to the queue if you have more questions.

Operator

Thank you. The first question comes from the line of Richard Hsu from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Essentially, I have two questions. One is, essentially, what's the credit demand trends at the moment, particularly there's some demand for the consumption From the SME client base, what are the differences between the trends from the typical Consumption mode demand and also any differences in strategy and risk management? Secondly is, what's the funding cost and whether there's further room to reduce funding cost in the future? Thanks.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you, Richard. I want to highlight that the prepared remarks just now delivered was generated by our large language model team. But for Q and A part, I will still answer the question in Chinese. Regarding your questions, stepping into Q4, we have observed the credit demand slightly trending down.

Speaker 1

In particular, Credit demand was soft in October, mainly due to the seasonality factor during the national holiday and after that it maintained stable into November. From user segment's perspective, the credit demand from broadly defined SME segment is slightly better than our consumer sector. And we do see some divergence from industry perspective. For example, the service sector like sports, entertainment and also the technology sector are better than the others. Compared to consumer segments, the broadly defined SME segment has more stable credit amounts and generate higher value.

Speaker 1

We expect to enhance our ability to identify the user group and use diversified products and services to improve our customers' experience and their stickiness as well. Here we would like to emphasize our broadly defined SME users are totally different from traditional SMEs As their ticket size is much smaller and our risk model are more based on individual profiles with the business data and supplementary information. And therefore, the risk performance of our broadly defined SME users are much better. And I would like to invite our COO, Mr. Jun Yan to add on the risk part.

Speaker 1

As Hai Xun just mentioned, Our risk management mechanism for the broadly defined SME segment is different from the traditional SME sector. In the sense that our risk model is primarily based on personal data of the business owner with the enterprise data as the secondary layer of information input. Upon users' approval, We integrated the personal credit data with the SME specific data source. For example, the tax, Invoice, cash flow, billings, etcetera, based on our sophisticated algorithm, so we can better evaluate The creditworthiness of the SME borrowers. As this segment normally has urgent and higher credit amount, So we combined the fixed credit line with additional temporary credit lines in relation to certain seasonal events like Double 11 Shopping Festival on June 16, etcetera, so we can better serve all kinds of Needs of the SME users.

Speaker 1

Regarding the funding cost, Our cost of funding declined by 20 bps sequentially in Q3 with our ABS issuance costs down by 47 bps. And our current funding cost is quite similar to the Q3 level. From a rate cutting perspective, theoretically, rate cutting can drive down the funding cost of Financial institutions and eventually benefit the real economy. However, due to the complex macro environment in this year, We didn't see it help that much. Our funding cost decline this year was mainly driven by the supply and demand dynamics In the market, as the funding partners allocated more resources to consumer loan assets when the mortgage loan is underperforming this year.

Speaker 1

Given the scarcity of our assets, we managed to continue to optimize our funding cost in this year. However, since September, there is some other sectors including government financing, Property sectors are also attracting funding slows, which may put pressure on the further reduction of our funding cost. We will continue to going forward, we will continue to optimize our funding structure and keep the pace or even expand our ABS issuance to maintain our competitive advantage from the funding part and maintain our funding cost at a stable level.

Operator

Thank you for the questions. I'll now move on to the next question from Alex Ye from UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

So My first question is about the asset quality outlook. Can you give us more color in terms of the Reason for causing the fluctuations in Q3, is it more driven by the macro environment or some of the industry specific reasons such as Collection efficiency and what's the latest trend in Q4 in the most recent months? And second question is on the loan pricing outlook. So in September, we have seen China lowering the mortgage rate for the existing mortgages. So under that kind of backdrop, do you expect the current Lower interest rate environment to also translate into some of the low downward pressure to our

Speaker 1

Okay. I will do the translation. The fluctuation of our asset quality in Q3 was mainly a result of 2 factors adding together. The first is from macro perspective, the key macro indicators are below the expectation. The second reason is that the seasonality of the credit industry in the sense that The liquidity is typically better in the first half than second half, which led to some fluctuation of our asset quality in Q3.

Speaker 1

However, we expect the situation, especially the liquidity situation will improve in early next year, which may help improve the risk Performance of our new loans issued in Q4. At the same time, we swiftly adjusted our operations by upgrading our user base, tightening our credit assessment criteria and reducing the exposure of our existing borrowers since Q3. Accordingly, our early risk indicators for new loans say FPD7 improved by 5% sequentially in September and we expect it to continue to improve in October. And in Q4, we have further strengthened our risk management chose from 3 aspects. First, we incorporated the scorecard data from 3 leading Internet platforms and build joint model with those platforms.

Speaker 1

2nd, we deep dive into our internal data and up Grade our regular B scorecard by further leveraging our app data and PBOC data using Sequenced algorithms and large models to large language models to construct risk sub analysis, aiming for an integrated B Scorecard and further improved screening capability by the end of November. 3rd, we will upgrade our post landing risk models and generate fast responding B ScoreCard rating system by end of December, primarily based on recent samples, which is more helpful for us to identify new risks. Putting together all these efforts, We expect the risk performance of the new loans originated in November December will stabilize. Regarding pricing, I would say from our own intention perspective, we will conduct different pricing tests for varied customer groups to improve user stickiness and satisfaction. Through more attractive pricing, we are also able to acquire quality new users to improve our user mix.

Speaker 1

Meanwhile, we will also raise our pricing for higher risk users. Combined, our average pricing will continue to keep stable. In the current macro environment, Consumer Finance is also one of the means to boost consumption and economy. Under the current regulatory system, This is a multilayer supply system for the consumer credit industry. Based on that, we will also set price based on supply and demand dynamics and actively play our role to drive the consumption and help SME players.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Alex.

Operator

Thank you for the question. One moment for the next question. Next question comes from the line of Emma Xu of Bank of America Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

So my question is about your shareholder capital return. It's really encouraging to see that You continue to buy back your shares at current level. And I just want to ask whether you will continue to do the buyback. And after the Completion of the current buyback program, where you launch more buyback program in the future?

Speaker 3

Okay. Emma, I will take this question. So as you said, we already did $80,000,000 repurchase Since June 20, well ahead the timeline and obviously we'll continue to execute the current repurchase program throughout the remainder of the year and also into next year. We already structured internally a very kind of a comprehensive system To periodically review our cash position as well as the use the deficient usage of the cash, Try to compare the expected return between the reinvestment in operations and the return generated from either the buyback or the dividend payment. So this kind of a review We will determine which is the best way to deploy additional cash or additional resource in the future.

Speaker 3

So after we complete the current buyback program as well as this year's Dividend plan, we will do a new review based on the cash position At that point, and make necessary changes to the shareholder return program either through buyback or through dividend or through some kind of a combination of the both. In summary, basically the logic behind our future cash deployment It's based on whichever method can generate the highest shareholder return, then we will use the cash to that direction. Thank you.

Speaker 7

Thank

Operator

Next question, we have the line from Cindy Wang from China Renaissance. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

So my question thanks for management teams to giving this opportunity. So my question is about the management strategy for capital light and capital heavy assets. Can you help us break down the current profit margins of Capital light and capital heavy loans and how does the management view the proportion of capital light and capital heavy loans in the future? So compared with the growth of loan volume, will company be more focused on the profitability in 2024? Thank you.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thanks, Cindy. Regarding the profitability of our capital heavy and capital light business model, I would say both Capital Heavy and Capital Light loan facilitation model generates a roughly 3% net take rate With Capture Heavy a little bit higher than 3% and the Capital Life a little bit lower, but pretty close to 3%. In terms of the loan mix, we will balance profitability and the long term healthiness of our loan portfolio and keep a dynamic balance between these two categories. Regarding the importance of loan volume versus profitability, I would say it is not our priority to either pursue loan growth or pursue profitability improvement.

Speaker 1

If we only pursue profitability, we can just all do as a heavy business like some other platforms. But our target is to balance profitability and the long term healthiness and sustainability of our loan portfolio. So we expect loan mix will maintain largely stable in the foreseeable future. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes. I probably want to add one little point here is that this year In 2023, because the macro factors and also because the first half of the year, We are facing a tough comp in terms of pricing versus last year. That's why you see the profitability growth is slower than the loan volume growth for 2023. And I would say these kind of Negative factors related to probability is already behind us. So in the future years, we will try to at least Maintain the same pace in terms of between the volume and the probability.

Speaker 3

If anything, we try to also drive some additional operating leverages in the future. Thank you, Cindy.

Operator

The questions? Our next question comes from the line of Yada Lee from CICC. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Then I will do my translation. Hello, management.

Speaker 1

Okay. Because we understand your question, so we can go ahead answer this question. Okay. Regarding the take rate, I would say in the short run, we will see some fluctuation in terms of our credit cost and funding In this regard, we will further fine tune our operations, optimize our funding structure and invest more resources into R and D to improve our operational efficiency and funding cost. With those costs and efficiency improved, We will mitigate largely the fluctuation.

Speaker 1

So we will see the take rate maintain stable in the short term. Actually, if you look at our take rate in Q3, it's actually improved Sequentially from apple to apple perspective, we diversified services offered to our users and optimizing our Asset Allocation. But because we expanded our customer outreach in Q3 and adding our additional tax Related to our dividend and the share buyback program, it looks like our take rate in Q3 maintained stable from last From long term perspective, we will further improve our operational efficiency and we do hope to see a steady increase in our take rates. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I see no more questions from the phone line. I would like to hand the call back to management for closing remarks.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thanks again for everyone to join us for the call. If you have additional questions, please feel free to contact us offline. Thank you. Have a good day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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