Host Hotels & Resorts Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 4, 2023

There are 10 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Host Hotels and Resorts First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Jamie Marcus, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations.

Speaker 1

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Before we begin, please note that many of the comments made today are considered to be forward looking statements under federal securities laws. As described in our filings with the SEC, these statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause future results to differ from those expressed, and we are not obligated to publicly update or revise these forward looking statements. In addition, on today's call, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial information such as FFO, adjusted EBITDAre and Comparable Hotel Level Results. You can find this information together with reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP information in yesterday's earnings press release, in our 8 ks filed with the SEC and in the supplemental financial information on our website at hosthotels.com.

Speaker 1

With me on today's call are Jim Rizzolio, President and Chief Executive Officer and Saurabh Ghosh, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Jim.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jamie, and thanks to everyone for joining us this morning. We kicked off the first Quarter of 2023 with meaningful outperformance, delivering a RevPAR improvement of 31% compared to the Q1 of 2022, exceeding the top end of our Q1 RevPAR guidance by 4 percentage points. During the Q1, we delivered adjusted EBITDAre of $444,000,000 and adjusted FFO per share of $0.55 Our comparable hotel EBITDA of $439,000,000 In the Q1 was 18% above 2019 44% above 2022, driven by both occupancy increases and continued rate strength, particularly in the group business segment at our downtown hotels. 1st quarter comparable hotel EBITDA margin of 32.5% was meaningfully ahead of 2022 and exceeded 2019 for the 4th consecutive quarter. Our strong performance in the Q1, coupled with our improved outlook for the year, allowed us to substantially raise and tighten our full year RevPAR growth guidance range to 7.5% to 10.5%, nearly doubling the midpoint of our full year expected RevPAR growth to 9% from 5% last quarter.

Speaker 2

This marks the 4th consecutive quarter since the onset of the pandemic That we have achieved RevPAR, adjusted EBITDAre and EBITDA margins ahead of 2019. And at the midpoint, our full year 2023 RevPAR guidance is 7% above 2019. Our outperformance is a result of the capital allocation decisions made over the last 6 years and our unwavering focus on expense control and margin improvement. It is worth noting that at the 9% midpoint, We raised our adjusted EBITDA guidance by $125,000,000 which is significantly above our Q1 outperformance of over $40,000,000 relative to consensus. Lastly, at the midpoint of our range, Our full year 2023 EBITDA is forecasted to be 3% above 2019.

Speaker 2

We are also providing 2nd quarter comparable hotel RevPAR growth guidance of 4% to 6%. Saurabh will discuss our updated guidance assumptions in a few minutes. On the capital allocation front, During the Q1, we sold the 277 Key Kambi Autograph Collection Hotel in Phoenix, Arizona for $110,000,000 or 14.3 times trailing 12 month EBITDA. When calculating the EBITDA multiple, We included approximately $23,000,000 of estimated foregone near term CapEx. In connection with the sale, we provided a $72,000,000 loan to the purchaser with up to an $12,000,000 available for a property improvement plan not to exceed a 65% loan to cost ratio.

Speaker 2

During the quarter, we also repurchased 3,200,000 shares at an average price of $15.65 per share through our common share repurchase program, bringing our total repurchases for the quarter to $50,000,000 Over the past few quarters, we have repurchased $77,000,000 of stock at an average repurchase price of $15.75 We have approximately $923,000,000 of remaining capacity under the repurchase program. We continue to be optimistic about the state of travel today, despite the underlying uncertainty in the economy and lack of clear visibility in the second half of the year. We are not seeing any signs of a slowdown and our outlook for the rest of the year has improved Since our last earnings call. Leisure rates remain well above 2019 levels and the moderation we saw in the second Half of last year plateaued in the Q1. For context, transient rates at our resorts were 54% above 2019 in the Q1, which was in line with the 4th quarter.

Speaker 2

On the group front, in the Q1, we booked over 500,000 group rooms for 2023 and total group revenue pace is now 2.5% ahead of the same time 2019. The group booking window is extending As most of our top markets picked up more group rooms for 2024 in the Q1 than the same time 2019. While business transient demand is continuing to evolve, rates in the Q1 were up 10% to 2019, with demand holding steady compared to the 4th quarter. Turning to Q1 results. Comparable hotel RevPAR For the Q1 was approximately $2.18 a 31% improvement over the Q1 of 2022 and a 7.4% improvement over the Q1 of 2019.

Speaker 2

Comparable hotel revenues in the Q1 were up 11% over 2019 34% over 2022, respectively, While comparable hotel operating expenses were up only 9% over 2019 30% over 2022. Transit revenue was 13% above the Q1 of 2022 as a result of increased occupancy and easier Comparisons due to Omicron, which allowed our managers to push rate higher. Revenue growth was primarily driven by our downtown hotels. Our resort properties continue to outperform with 1% transient rate growth over 2022. In the Q1, we had 6 resorts with transient rates above $1,000 led by the Four Seasons Resort and Residence Jackson Hole at nearly $3,000 and the Four Seasons Resort Orlando at Walt Disney World Resort at over $2,000 As a reminder, Hyatt Coconut Point and the Ritz Carlton Naples are both excluded from our comparable hotel results due to impacts from Hurricane Ian.

Speaker 2

Hyatt Coconut Point has been opened since November and the final Phase of restoration is expected to complete in mid June with the reopening of its waterpark complex. The Ritz Carlton Naples remains closed. However, we are nearing the end of our reconstruction efforts, which will enhance the resiliency of the property by elevating critical equipment, improving dry flood proofing measures and replacing major equipment with more efficient machinery. We have targeted reopening the resort, including the new 74 Key Tower expansion in July. We are excited to showcase the transformational repositioning of the Ritz Carlton Naples.

Speaker 2

As of today, we have received $98,000,000 of insurance proceeds of the expected potential insurance Recovery of approximately $310,000,000 for covered costs. The proceeds received to date have all been classified as property damage. As a reminder, these two properties were expected to contribute an additional $71,000,000 of EBITDA this year, which is not included in our full year guidance. Turning to group, this is the 3rd consecutive quarter group revenue Exceeded 2019, driven by 14% rate growth over the same time in 2019 with over 1,000,000 group room nights sold. Definite group room nights on the books for 2023 increased to $3,400,000 in the first quarter, which represents approximately 94% of comparable full year 20 22 actual group room nights, up from 80% as of the Q4 of 2022.

Speaker 2

Total group revenue for the Q1 was 7% ahead of 2019, driven by continued elevated banquet and AV spend. For full year 2023, group rate on the books is up over 6% to the same time last year, a 90 basis point increase since the Q4. In addition, total group revenue pace is up approximately 25% to the same time last We continue to be very encouraged by the large group base we have on the books, particularly when you consider that our in the quarter, for the quarter bookings remain elevated at 28% above the same time 2019. Saurabh will touch on additional operational details and our updated 2023 outlook in a few minutes. Our recent acquisitions continue to contribute to our outperformance and are meaningfully ahead of our underwriting expectations.

Speaker 2

Based on full year 2023 forecast, EBITDA from the 8 hotels we acquired in 2021 2022 is comfortably within our targeted range of 10 to 12 times and well ahead of our underwritten stabilization period. Looking back on our transaction activity since 2018, We have acquired $3,500,000,000 of assets at a 14 times EBITDA multiple and disposed of $5,000,000,000 of assets at a 17 times EBITDA multiple, including $976,000,000 of estimated foregone capital expenditures. Comparing all owned hotel 2022 results for our current portfolio to 2017, We have increased the RevPAR of our assets by 9%, the Trebnpar by 15% and the EBITDA per key by 31%. Moving on to portfolio reinvestment. During the Q1, we completed comprehensive renovations at the Marriott Marquis San Diego Marina, bringing the number of completed properties in the Marriott Transformational Capital Program to 15 out of 16 assets.

Speaker 2

The final property in that program, the Washington Marriott and Metro Center is underway and we expect it to be completed in May. We also completed our comprehensive renovation of the Westin Georgetown, Washington DC during the quarter. In addition to these completed renovations, we are excited to announce our plans to develop and sell 40 fee simple condominiums On a 5 acre development parcel at Golden Oak in Orlando, adjacent to our Four Seasons Resort Orlando at Walt Disney World Resort. The development will feature a 31 Unit Mid Rise Condominium Building and 9 Detached Condominium Villas. We signed a contract to purchase the 5 acre development parcel for an additional $30,000,000 at the time the resort was acquired.

Speaker 2

We are targeting a mid to high teens cash on cash return for this ROI development project. Construction is expected to begin in the Q4 of 2023 and complete in the Q4 of 2025, with sales tentatively scheduled to commence in the first half of twenty twenty four. For the full year, Our 2023 capital expenditure guidance range remains at $600,000,000 to $725,000,000 which reflects approximately $275,000,000 of investment for redevelopment, repositioning and ROI projects and $100,000,000 to $125,000,000 per hurricane restoration work. The projects include a transformational renovation of the Fairmont Kehlani, the Phoenician Canyon Suites Villa expansion, the Four Seasons Orlando at Walt Disney World Resort Luxury Condominium development In completing construction of the tower expansion, guest room renovation and lobby transformation of Ritz Carlton Naples Beach, which was delayed by Hurricane Ian. In closing, we are very pleased with our strong Q1 performance and our improved outlook for the rest of the year.

Speaker 2

We believe Host is well positioned to outperform in the current macroeconomic environment. We have a best in class balance sheet. With that, I will turn the call over to Saurabh.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Jim, and good morning, everyone. Building on Jim's comments, I will go into detail on our Q1 operations, our updated 2023 guidance and our balance sheet and dividend. Starting with business mix. Overall transient revenue was up 13% to the Q1 of 2022, driven by over 9 points of occupancy growth and continued strength in leisure rates. Our downtown hotels led revenue growth as strong demand fueled significant rate increases.

Speaker 3

Holiday performance in the Q1 was strong, particularly at our downtown hotels. Downtown hotels saw increased leisure demand over last year, gaining more than 10 points of occupancy for both Martin Luther King Jr. And Presidents' Day weekends. Downtown Properties also drove overall portfolio Spring break RevPAR growth of 7%, which is quite impressive when you consider the elevated resort comparisons from the mother of all spring breaks last year. Quickly looking forward to holidays in the second quarter, Room revenue pace is up low single digits over last year for Memorial Day, Juneteenth and the 4th July.

Speaker 3

Results in the Q1 saw an overall RevPAR increase of approximately 5% compared to 2022. As expected, the return of Caribbean tourism, less consumer hesitancy to travel to downtown markets and lower repeat travel to Florida markets impacted performance at our resorts. However, the impact was not as significant as we expected And it is notable that Miami, Jacksonville and the Florida Gulf Coast are still significantly outpacing 2019 RevPAR levels by an average of over 30%. Our resorts in Hawaii achieved 11% RevPAR growth over last year entirely driven by our rate. Business transient revenue was down 14% to the Q1 of 2019, which represents a 400 basis points sequential improvement to the 4th quarter.

Speaker 3

Downtown Properties accounted for over 60% of the portfolio's business travel demand and small and medium sized businesses continue to drive the recovery, representing approximately 75% of our business transient demand today compared to approximately 60% at the same time in 2019. It is also worth noting that business transient revenue was only down 7% to 2019 in the month of March. Turning to group, this marks the 3rd quarter that group revenue has surpassed 2019 levels. Group room revenues were 4% above the Q1 of 2019, driven by 14% rate growth. Phoenix, San Diego and Miami drove group room revenue growth compared to 2019.

Speaker 3

The short term booking trend continued with a pickup of 102,000 room nights or 28 percent of rooms booked in the quarter for the quarter. Near half of the in the quarter for the quarter rooms booked were in San Francisco, Washington, D. C. And New York. Corporate group room revenue was above 2019 for the 3rd consecutive quarter, up 6% in the 4th quarter, driven by 26% rate growth.

Speaker 3

Association Group revenue has nearly recovered, down just 2% in the Q1 compared to 2019, driven by 1% wage growth. Wrapping up on group with social, military, educational, religious And for Turner or Smurf Group's revenue was 12% above 2019 driven by 8% rate growth. Shifting gears to margin performance. Our 1st quarter comparable hotel EBITDA margin came in at 32.5%, which is 175 basis points better than the Q1 of 2019 and 220 basis points better than the Q1 of 2022. All departments had margin improvements compared to 2019.

Speaker 3

Compared to 2022, All departments except for other revenues had margin improvement as attrition and cancellation revenue was below 2022. Margin expansion can be attributed primarily to rate growth, banquet and AV growth and our efforts to redefine the operating model, and we are encouraged that we were able to maintain last quarter's margin expansion compared to 2019 in the Q1. Turning to our updated 2023 guidance, we significantly raised and tightened our full year comparable hotel RevPAR growth range to 7.5% to 10.5%. Our improved outlook is driven by outperformance in the 1st quarter, Better visibility into the Q2 and continued strong group booking activity in the second half of the year. As it relates To the business trends and recovery, it is worth noting that we may not see a decrease in demand if a slowdown occurs in other parts of our business as business trends in demand is still not fully recovered to 2019 levels.

Speaker 3

Given the continued macroeconomic uncertainty, Our guidance range contemplates the varying degrees of a slowdown in the second half of the year, particularly for the group segment. Further improvement will continue to depend on the broader macroeconomic environment, our ability to maintain high rated business in Resort Markets and the continued improvement of group, business transient and international inbound travel. In this context, We would expect year over year comparable hotel RevPAR percent pitch changes in the second half of the year to be up low single digits at the midpoint of our guidance. As Jim mentioned, at the midpoint of our guidance, we anticipate comparable hotel RevPAR growth of 9% compared to 2022. Comparable hotel EBITDA margin of 30.2%, with a 65 basis points ahead of 2019 and full year adjusted EBITDAre of $1,585,000,000 We expect our operational results to roughly follow 2019 quarterly Seasonal trends as provided on Page 13 of our supplemental financial information.

Speaker 3

As a reminder, Our 2023 full year adjusted EBITDAre guidance includes an expected $17,000,000 contribution from Hyatt Coconut Point and the recall in Naples, both of which are excluded from our comparable hotel results due to impacts from Hurricane Ian. The $17,000,000 expected contribution from these two hotels is up from $11,000,000 as of our year end guidance, as a result of better performance at the Hyatt Coconut Point. The pre hurricane estimated contribution from these two hotels, including the new tower at the Ritz Carlton Naples was expected to be an additional $71,000,000 in 2023. It is also important to note that we have not included any expected business interruption proceeds from Hurricane Ian in our 2023 guidance. In addition, we removed approximately $5,000,000 of Adjusted EBITDAre associated with the sale of the Kambi from our full year guidance range.

Speaker 3

As we discussed last quarter And noted throughout 2022, year over year, we expect comparable hotel EBITDA margins to be down 200 basis points at the low end of our guidance to down 130 basis points at the high end due to Closer to stable staffing levels at our hotels, higher utility and insurance expenses and lower attrition and cancellation fees. It is important to note that we expect margins in 2023 relative to 2019 to be up 25 basis points at the low end of our guidance to up 95 basis points at the high end, despite lagging occupancy and 4 years of inflationary pressures. This reflects our efforts to transform the portfolio and evolve the hotel operating model. As we have discussed in the past, It is particularly impressive when you consider that our forecasted total hotel expense CAGR from 2019 to 2023 is only 1.8% versus the forecasted core CPI CAGR of 4% over the same period. Turning to our balance sheet and liquidity position.

Speaker 3

Our weighted average maturity is 5 years at a weighted average interest rate of 4.5%, We have no significant maturities until April 2024. We ended the Q1 at 2.2x net leverage And we have $2,300,000,000 of total available liquidity, which includes $203,000,000 of FF and A reserves and full availability of our $1,500,000,000 credit facility. Wrapping up, in April, we paid a quarterly cash Dividend of $0.12 per share. All future dividends are subject to approval by the company's Board of Directors. Though we expect to be able to maintain our quarterly dividend at a sustainable level taking into consideration potential macroeconomic factors.

Speaker 3

To conclude, We are very pleased with our recent operational performance, particularly relative to 2019, and our outlook for the remainder of the year is cautiously optimistic. In any scenario, we believe our portfolio, our balance sheet and our team are well positioned to continue outperforming and we will continue to be strategic in the current macroeconomic environment. With that, we would be happy to take your questions.

Operator

At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. Your first question for today is coming from Ari Klein at BMO Capital Markets. Ari, your line is live.

Speaker 4

Hi, thanks and good morning. Sorry about that. Just maybe relative to the prior outlook, What's been the biggest surprise to the upside that's giving you the confidence to increase the outlook, particularly in the second half of the year?

Speaker 2

Yes, Ari, I think the fact that all three segments, it's not isolated to any one of our business Segments, but all three segments are really firing on all cylinders. We haven't seen any slowdown in the Leisure segment, as Saurabh mentioned, we're a 5% in RevPAR growth In Q1, in the leisure segment of our business and we had 6 resorts that had transit revenues of $1,000 or greater. So it's apparent to us that the well heeled leisure consumer continues to want experiences. They want experiential experiences. The shift from goods to travel and other experiences has occurred and it's real and it's very sticky.

Speaker 2

And that's notwithstanding the fact that we anticipated that there was going to be a natural migration Out of the resorts, as people got more comfortable traveling internationally to the Caribbean, to Europe and to other places And going back to our downtown hotels, which leads me to the next piece of the business. Our downtown hotels have really Seeing business return in a material way, in not only business transient, but leisure business. So we feel really good about The way the recovery is unfolding and the way things are pacing for the leisure consumer. Group is really Firing on all cylinders, total group revenue pace is now up 2.5% to the same time in 2019. Group rate on the books for 2023 is up nearly 6.4% To the same time last year and that's a 90 basis point increase since the Q4.

Speaker 2

We We're still seeing, as Saurabh mentioned, a significant amount of bookings occurring in the quarter for the quarter. I think last quarter was 28% compared to 2019. We're up 3,400,000 room nights Stefan, it's on the books now. That's 94% of 2022 actual relative to Where we were in last quarter, I think it was about 80%, somewhere in that range. So we saw a significant pickup.

Speaker 2

And business transient continues to evolve as well. We're seeing the Recovery in BT led by small and medium sized businesses as well as Increased rate being driven by special corporate. So I think it's all of the segments are Really firing on all cylinders. And I'll let Rob add a little more color on BT.

Speaker 3

Hey, Ari, I think specifically when you look at 2nd half, what really gives us confidence is the group booking activity for the second half. We picked up 237,000 room nights. Just to put that into perspective, that's 35% more than what we picked up in Q1 of twenty nineteen for the second half of twenty nineteen. So apart from just in the quarter, for the quarter group pickup, it was really encouraging to see meaningful activity, not only for Q2. Q2, we picked up about 180,000 room nights, that's 13% above 2019, but also for the second half of the year.

Speaker 4

Thanks. And if I could just ask

Speaker 2

The last thing I would add is that, as we thought about Q2 in connection with Our Q4 call, we were looking at a scenario where we were anticipating flat RevPAR growth for Q2. Now we have given you RevPAR growth of 4% to 6%.

Speaker 4

Thanks for that color. And if I could just ask on Orlando and the condo development there,

Speaker 5

can you just give

Speaker 4

a little additional Context on that decision, maybe what you expect the total cost to be and whether or not there are

Speaker 2

The thought behind The condo development adjacent to our Four Seasons Resort was a ROI project that We anticipate it's going to generate cash on cash returns in the mid to high teens on the development and sellout As a standalone venture, they are going to be 4 Seasons branded units, which is a very, very attractive Branding to have whenever you're building and selling something of this nature. Additionally, what we haven't taken into is the uplift that the hotel is going to receive from having these 40 additional units Adjacent to it, in terms of food and beverage spend, spa spend, golf spend, All the ancillary revenues that are going to be driven, which we believe are real and sustainable at the hotel property. So the total cost is going to be somewhere in the area of 100 And $50,000,000 to $170,000,000 And with respect to whether or not we have other opportunities, As you know, we have an ongoing pipeline of ROI projects at Host, and We are constantly working on additional ways to enhance shareholder value through deploying capital in ROI projects. To remind you of some of the ones that we've done in the past, we built 19 villas at the Andaz Wailea on Maui.

Speaker 2

We built the AC Carolin on a parking lot at the Westin Carolin Resort in Phoenix. We're doing the expansion of the Phoenix of the Canyon Suites at The Phoenician. So we have other projects in the pipeline, but we've always been very thoughtful, I think, With respect to our messaging, and we do not message these projects until we're confident that we have the entitlements and we're confident that we're going to move forward

Speaker 1

Welcome. Thank

Speaker 5

you.

Operator

Your next Question for today is coming from Anthony Powell at Barclays.

Speaker 5

Hi, good morning. Question about, I guess, you're growing a bridge loan book. I think you have 2 loans expiring later this year. Have you started to talk with the borrowers about Sending those loans and just generally how much capital are you willing to have tied up in these loans going forward?

Speaker 2

Well, I think, Anthony, that we expect both of the loans on the share both Sheritens to be repaid In the second half of the year, the loans are in compliance with the loan documents, payments are current. Both of the borrowers fully anticipate that they are going to Be in a position to pay us back. So we have no concerns with respect to getting repaid on those loans. With respect to the Kambi, it was a unique situation. We had acquired the 4 Seasons Jackson Hole in 2022, And we made a decision that the Kambi wasn't an asset that we needed to own or wanted to own For the long term, given the amount of CapEx that needed to go into the property and our Terrific exposure in the Phoenix Metropolitan area with the Venetian and the Western Cara that we've got, I think the 2 best resorts in the market, there's some new supply coming into the Phoenix area, and we made a decision that At $110,000,000 it made sense to sell that hotel.

Speaker 2

We wanted to make certain that we could take advantage of the reverse light kind Change opportunity by investing by designating the proceeds from that asset as a reverse like And exchange into the Four Seasons Shacks and Whole property, because we had a very low basis in the asset. So that was one of the reasons that drove us to Provide seller financing. I'll just I'll make a broader comment. First of all, I don't see us doing this on any broad scale. And it's for a number of reasons.

Speaker 2

Number 1, we don't the portfolio is in a really terrific position right now. Given the capital allocation decisions that we've made over the last 6 years from 2018 forward, we have sold $5,000,000,000 plus And really have called the assets that we don't we didn't want to own for the long term out of the portfolio. So I don't see us doing many more bridge loans, if any more bridge loans today. But the assets that we have sold Not greater than I think 65%, 70% 65% to 70% loan to value. So we've gotten a Nice plug of equity in connection with the sale.

Speaker 2

And if something were to go, Sal, what we do for a living is own hotels. So, it wouldn't bother us at all if we had to take the property back.

Speaker 5

Thank you for the detail.

Operator

Your next question for today is coming from Smedes Rose at Citi.

Speaker 5

Hi, thanks. I wanted to ask you just a little bit more on the group side as kind of what you're seeing in terms of kind of the Composition of demand, is it mainly coming from smaller groups? Are you seeing a return of kind of Fortune 500 bookings and kind of maybe you could talk about that a little bit? And then just with that, could you just touch on what you're seeing at some of the larger relatively recently renovated marquee properties in San Diego, San Cisco and maybe New

Speaker 3

York. 1st, Mids. On the group front, it is certainly More so being driven by smaller corporate groups. But one thing which came back meaningfully, and I talked about this in My prepared remarks was association. Association is now down only 2% in terms of group revenue to 2019.

Speaker 3

Corporate group revenue up 6% to 2019 and 26% was driven by rate in the Q1, so meaningful pickup In corporate group revenue, the gap right now, I would say, is really on Citywide. We are for 2023 about 83% of where citywide room nights were back in 2019. So there's still a long way to go in terms of citywide pickup. But overall, what really is picking up, we saw corporate The group is continuing in last year and multiple quarters and we saw the same thing happen in Q1, But the big comeback has really been association, which we are seeing meaningful activity not only into Q2, but as well as the second half.

Speaker 5

Okay, thanks. And then just quickly on your Four Seasons, the condo development, would you expect any disruption to the hotel or is it Far enough away that it won't impact your guests.

Speaker 2

Not anticipating any disruption speeds.

Speaker 5

Thank you, guys.

Operator

Your next question for today is coming from David Katz at Jefferies.

Speaker 6

Hi, morning everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to follow on to that Commentary which, Shriram, I know you repeat in terms of the makeup of the group business strength. Is there any commentary or any color with respect to large corporate groups and the citywides, Meaning, have they just not gotten around to booking yet? Is there some Or is there some trepidation to it?

Speaker 6

How should we look into that?

Speaker 3

David, if you think about sort of where the Big City Wipes come from and just to put into perspective for Host, For our portfolio, we have about 20% to 25% of our overall group room nights that really come from citywide. We have done a really good job Across the board, bringing in in house groups, which are self contained. And with a lot of our hotels where we've expanded meeting space, we now have the ability to actually How is the group completely in house and are less dependent on citywide. But in general, if you think about a lot of the convention centers that were actually closed during the pandemic, Just in terms of sales staff gearing up and selling those cities, there is more of a ramp up time and we were talking about this last year how You're expecting that Citywide would be sort of the last one to come back in a meaningful way. It certainly is very, very market Specifics, as you well know, like when you look at San Francisco, that's pretty meaningful meaningfully relative to pre pandemic levels.

Speaker 3

But other places where we are seeing actually group bookings, which are being driven by citywide and have a good citywide pickup Into future years, our cities like Boston, like San Antonio, like Chicago. So it is coming back, But it's just a matter of them the entire sales staff getting all geared up and selling those cities. But so we do expect That to further ramp up with time.

Speaker 6

I see. So we should take it as further upside. And if I can sort of follow to the strong results and the guidance that you've already given us, by the way. If I can just follow on with respect to San Francisco, because it is a city, it's a matter of debate. My sense is that you've done reasonably well there.

Speaker 6

Can you just talk about what's going on there for you and sort of how you're differentiated than what we've seen in other areas?

Speaker 2

Sure. I'll share our broader thoughts and then Saurabh can get into a little more detail on what's happened in Dan Fran, in the Q1 and how we're thinking about it for the balance of the year. So the city clearly has its challenges. There is no question about it. I will tell you, we're not writing San Francisco off.

Speaker 2

I think we have a mayor in that city that is committed to fixing the actual problems and then dealing with the perception as well. From our perspective, we feel very good about the assets we own there, Given their location and many of you on the call have recently visited our Moscone Marriott Marquis in connection with NAREIT. So You know what type of asset it is. It's in great shape. It's been fully renovated and repositioned and it is main and main for any business that is going to book through the Moscone Convention Center and it is an asset that is extremely well set up to go after and bring in in house group.

Speaker 2

So we have that hotel and then we have the Grand Hyatt on Union Square, another Terrific property. So as we think about the assets we own in that market generally and then the 3rd material asset is the Marriott which is a leisure hotel as opposed to group and citywide property. We like the assets we have. We like the condition that they're in. So we're in a pull position to really Take market share and be the 1st to fill as business returns.

Speaker 2

And we have seen some good results and I'll let Saurabh Get into that with you in a moment. Now I don't want you to think that we don't have concerns about San Francisco because we do Absolutely. I have concern about how the market is performing relative to 2019 and What's happened with the layoffs in the world of tech and the like and return to office in that market It's really lagging the rest of the country, but it is the center of tech and it's going to be the center of artificial intelligence As the world returns. So with that, I'll let Rob give you some specifics on how our hotels performed in the market.

Speaker 3

Yes. For the San Francisco market, we were around 61% occupancy or so at about $2.91 While RevPAR overall relative to 2019 It's down 27.5%. We did actually exceed our expectations by about 1.5% or And that was driven by strength of group, in particular, with the return of the JPMorgan Group. Food and Beverage did really well. We were actually up almost 10% compared to our forecast.

Speaker 3

And this is due to just Contracted Banquet Minimums, which frankly we've been seeing across the board, but that really did help San Francisco quite a bit. We do see a lot of in the quarter for the quarter pickup in San Francisco. A lot of the rooms that were actually booked, A big piece of it was San Francisco that we picked up in the quarter. Overall, when we are looking out for the rest of the year, there are a few Citywide, that are there, I think, for 2023, the total number of citywides is about 34, and then another 20 citywide confirmed for 2024. So there is certainly a I would be cautious and say somewhat of a positive trend.

Speaker 3

And while a lot of it is short term and not necessarily long term pickup, there's certainly some green shoots in San Francisco.

Speaker 6

I really appreciate it. Good quarter. Well done. Thanks.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Michael Bellisario with Baird.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Good morning. Probably for Sohrab here on the expense side of the P and L. Do you see any easing of the cost pressures or the Hiring challenges that you've mentioned previously and then do you have any updated forecast where you see wages and benefits tracking for the remainder of the year? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. Our outlook in terms of Wijan's benefit for the year, year over year increase is still at the 5% ish. Don't expect that to change for the year. We are tracking well on that. In terms of just overall Staffing, given where our business volumes are right now, we feel pretty good.

Speaker 3

I would say we are fully staffed across the portfolio And are not seeing any major challenges. I mean, it still is in certain markets difficult to hire a line cook. But apart from that, we are lucky where we are predisposed to primarily Marriott managed and Hyatt managed Hotels, brand managed hotels, which they do a really good job of acquiring talent and retaining talent and really are pushing For Hospitality as a career, which has made it much easier to staff up, not only staff up, but really get quality talent into our hotels.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Bill Crow at Raymond James.

Speaker 7

Hey, good morning, everybody. Jim, maybe this is more of a SRAV question. When you look at BT Travel specifically and you take out The higher rates that we've seen, where is occupancy or demand depending on how you want to look at it relative to 2019? How big is that gap?

Speaker 3

Yes. That gap from a volume perspective, depending on the market bill, is still down anywhere from 15% to 20%. We obviously had a meaningful rate pickup, which so if you look at sort of March, I said in my prepared remarks, our overall BT revenue is now down only 7% to 2019, but it is really market dependent. Certain markets are ahead. New York, for example, is meaningfully ahead, almost Close to where we were back in 2019, but I would say in general, somewhere between down 15% to down 20% in terms of volume.

Speaker 7

And then do you thank you for that. Do you expect that that gap can be narrowed further this year? Or do you think that given the overall cost Travel, the macro headlines, the tech layoffs, all that other stuff that we read about, is that something maybe is it next year or even 2025?

Speaker 3

It's a little difficult to tell how that ramp is going to occur just given the macroeconomic uncertainty overall, But we are seeing a positive trend and sequential month to month improvement. One other thing to keep in mind as We sort of talked about in our prepared remarks is we're getting a lot of demand from small and medium sized business Transient versus the larger companies and some of that comes in through retail, which is difficult to classify exactly as business transient. So some of the gap Well, one could argue is being made up by selling more directly through retail as opposed to being classified But in general, we still expect some improvement to occur, but probably plateauing until there is more macroeconomic certainty. Great. Jim, if I could just ask you a

Speaker 7

quick one. You noted that you're in the hotel ownership business, which I agree, But you're also in the shareholder returns business. I'm wondering if the prospects for acquisitions can be appealing enough To use capital in lieu of share repurchases.

Speaker 2

Yes, Bill, we're actively Evaluating potential investment opportunities, I think The gating factor that really distinguishes Host is the fortress balance sheet that we have. Finishing the quarter now back down to 2.2 times leverage. After all the activity that has occurred Over the last several years, in particular, including the 8 acquisitions That were completed over the course of 2021 2022 as well as the $1,500,000,000 that we put in our Portfolio that is all that is leading as well as the capital allocation decisions that happened From 2018 forward, that's what's leading to our outperformance today. So I just I want to set the table and The transformation of the portfolio with our RevPAR up 9% On a comparable hotel basis to 2017, Trebnora up 15% and EBITDA per key up 31%, and our Lynching and unyielding focus on expenses and margins is a big reason why we were able to Blow through our 24% to 27% RevPAR guidance in Q1 and deliver 31% and Put in a substantial beat and raise for the entire year. So we will continue to look for acquisitions that will Elevate the EBITDA growth profile of the company.

Speaker 2

Right now, what we're seeing out there is a fairly wide bid ask spread between sellers, what sellers want and what we're prepared to pay today. Now that can change and it can change for a number of different reasons on I'm talking about non distressed assets right now. But it can change as we see a clearer picture of the macro As we and everyone else draw some conclusions about how the economy is going to perform Going forward, and when I say, it can change on both sides, right? I mean, we can get more bullish on our underwriting and have a different point of view With respect to our cost of capital, if the Fed does get into an interest cutting mode, which The Street seems to be banking on. They're looking for 2 rate cuts in the back half of the year.

Speaker 2

I don't know if that's going to happen or not. On the other hand, if things get tough, then maybe some of the sellers' expectations are going to change regarding value. So We're keeping very close tabs on what's happening in the transaction market. We're also tracking all of the CMBS Loans that are going to be maturing later this year and into 2024 2025. So that is one place Clearly that we will be prepared to deploy capital, but the great thing about our balance sheet is that it's not mutually exclusive From a host perspective, we can buy assets.

Speaker 2

We will continue to invest in our portfolio. We'll continue to Do ROI projects to generate shareholder returns? The dividend At $0.12 a share, we'll be talking to our Board about what the next quarter's dividend is. And we have the capital available To do share repurchases as well. So it's kind of threading a needle, but we have the ability to do it all.

Speaker 7

Very good. Thank you, Jim. We look forward to seeing you next week. Likewise.

Operator

Your next question for today is coming from Chris Woronka at Deutsche Bank.

Speaker 4

Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for all the Details so far. So my question would be on kind of group rate. It seems like you're really starting to benefit from some of the Rate increases you got on stuff booked post COVID, where do you think you are if we want to use the Baseball analogy of innings in terms of recapturing or maybe the answer is pushing group rate.

Speaker 4

I mean, how long of a tail do you think that has? What kind of increases are people agreeing to now for business group business out in, Say 24% to 25%. Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. We continue working with our managers to make sure that Rate is certainly a priority, and those conversations are frankly in a high inflation environment are Much easier to have than otherwise. And if you look at sort of where we were in terms of our group rate just for 2023, at the end of the Q4, We were around 5% higher year over year and we improved 90 basis points already by the end of the Q1. So wherever Possible. We keep on pushing those rates and we feel pretty confident that as their availability Starts becoming more challenging as we go out into the future, and we have been seeing some lead times really expand.

Speaker 3

So once those specific dates are getting booked up into the future, that leads to real yield management and be able to drive rates even further. So all in all, a really good trend from a rate perspective, and we are seeing continuously rate trends not only into 2023, but 2024 and beyond.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thanks, Arav.

Operator

Your next question Today is coming from Stephen Grambling at Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 8

Hi, thanks. This is perhaps a longer term question, but with some of your brand partners in the midst of large Tech Investments, how would you characterize the opportunity from a tech overhaul coming from some of your partners? And then zooming out, what are your general Thoughts on artificial intelligence and how that could not only approach how you bring or what you bring to the business, but also what are your brand partners fit in?

Speaker 2

Given that Saurabh was the father of our relationship with IBM Watson, Stephen, as much as I'd like to answer this question, I'm going to let him answer it.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Jeff. In terms of what our brand partners With technology, I mean, we have at HOPE always been at the forefront of trying out new technology, whether it's proof of concept or piloting new technology To drive not only productivity improvements and just looking at overall sort of expenses, but also What is really going to drive customer satisfaction and what I like to refer to as sort of reduced transaction friction. And those are conversations that we have With our managers is when you think about sort of the front desk of the future, does there really need to be a front desk period? If you're going to give Provide the optionality and flexibility to the guests of having access to your room, whether it's through your phone or whether it's through Getting a physical key card through a kiosk, and then being able to, if nothing else is there, you can approach a host or hostess to check you in. So those are the kind of conversations we are having is how you really leverage technology change the long term sort of operating model that we have had and drive Not only efficiencies, but improved customer satisfaction.

Speaker 3

As it relates to artificial intelligence, as Jim briefly mentioned there, We entered into this partnership with IBM Watson back in 2018. And It's really there was it was really with IBM Research to develop a proprietary model for us that would help us identify markets that outperform or underperform and rank them, so we can make much better capital allocation decisions, whether that's Acquisitions, dispositions or frankly even investing capital in our existing assets. And I will say this is while Certainly, IBM Watson couldn't predict the pandemic. It was most accurate in terms of predicting what RevPAR would do relative to every other third party predictor out there and including our internal predictive analytics. So it's been a really good partnership, and it really is a tool that we utilize to help us make capital allocation decisions.

Speaker 3

But certainly on the forefront of it, we use natural language processing as well as multiple data points that are churned through

Operator

Our final question for today is coming from Duane Pfennigwerth at Evercore ISI.

Speaker 9

Hey, thanks. Most of my questions have been asked. Just on BI, and I apologize if you've said this, your guidance does not include Any business interruption, insurance or reimbursement there, but what do you anticipate that to be this year?

Speaker 3

Frankly, it's difficult to tell right now because it is something that we agree upon with our In insurers, so from a timing perspective and the amount perspective, exactly how much we will get this year It's difficult and that's frankly why we have not put it in our forecast and it's not in our guidance. But the moment we do collect It would be I will obviously let you all know and it would flow through down to EBITDA.

Speaker 9

Okay, thanks.

Speaker 3

Okay.

Operator

We have reached the end of the question and answer session. And I will now turn the call over to Jim for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

I'd like to thank everyone for joining us today on our Q1 call. We're Really excited about the way the year is setting up for us, and we appreciated the opportunity to discuss our results with you and Talk about guidance for the balance of the year. As a reminder, we will be hosting an Investor Day on May 22 23 in Orlando, Florida. We hope many of you can join us and we look forward to seeing you there. Thanks again.

Operator

This concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your

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