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Earnings HistoryForecast Intrusion EPS ResultsActual EPS-$3.00Consensus EPS -$2.60Beat/MissMissed by -$0.40One Year Ago EPSN/AIntrusion Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.47 millionExpected Revenue$1.71 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$240.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AIntrusion Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/14/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateMonday, August 14, 2023Conference Call Time5:00PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Intrusion Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 14, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:09For those of you participating in the conference call, there will be an opportunity for your questions at the end of today's prepared remarks. Please note this conference is being recorded. And audio replay of the conference call will be available to the company's web I would now like to turn the call over to Josh Carroll with Investor Relations. Please proceed. Speaker 100:00:34Thank you, and welcome, everyone. Joining me today are Tony Scott, Chief Executive Officer and Kimberly Pinson, Chief Financial Officer. This call is being webcast and will be archived on the Investor Relations section of our website. Before I turn the call over to Tony, I'd like to remind everyone that the statements made during this conference call relating to the company's expected future performance, future business prospects Future events or plans may include forward looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Please refer to our SEC filings for more information on the specific risk factors as our actual results to differ materially from the projections prescribed in today's Any forward looking statements that we make on this call are based upon information that we believe as of today, We undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of the new information or future events. Speaker 100:01:33In addition to U. S. GAAP reporting, We report certain financial measures that do not conform to generally accepted accounting principles. During the call, we may use non GAAP measures If we believe it is useful to investors or if we believe it will help investors better understand our performance or business trends. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Tony for a few opening remarks. Speaker 200:01:55Well, thank you, Josh. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us today. In today's call, I'll cover our high level Q2 financial results and provide an update on our product offerings, our traction in the market, Our pipeline, I'll talk about our recent S-one filing and other highlights from Q2 as well as provide some early visibility uphill battle for some period of time as we reoriented our products, dealt with several daunting legal battles, Changed our sales and marketing approach and raised capital and took on debt in order to survive for the company. I joined Intrusion because of my firm belief that Intrusion possessed unique intellectual property, At the right talent to continue to innovate and grow that valuable base and that there was a need in the marketplace for the kind of solutions that As I've said on previous calls, those fundamental beliefs remain true today And have strengthened as we march down the path towards our future. Clearly, it's not been easy nor has everything gone as hoped or as planned. Speaker 200:03:16But I believe that this quarter should be viewed as an early indicator of the turnaround in Intrusion's business and a reflection of the hard work that we've been doing As you will hear from Kim later and in more detail, total revenue for the Q2 was $1,500,000 An increase of $200,000 sequentially. And as we announced in our preliminary results press release last month, Shield revenues for the Q2 were $400,000 We anticipate that we will see additional growth in Intrusion Shield revenue during the second half of the year. As a result of our existing sales efforts and our robust pipeline, which gives us confidence, ThirShield family of products is and will continue to gain traction in the highly competitive cybersecurity marketplace. Having said that, I'd like to add a little more color and some context regarding sales, bookings and the current pipeline As you've heard me describe on previous calls, we sensed a pretty significant and growing level of interest in our shield offerings early in the year, which by the way continues. But we were not seeing that interest translate into signed contracts. Speaker 200:04:38Many potential customers told us that they were highly interested in our solutions, but were cautiously watching their budgets and holding back And much of their new cybersecurity and IT project spending in anticipation of potential business downturns And the threat of unplanned budget cuts. I know from my own experience as a CIO that the IT and cybersecurity context It's not independent from the overall business environment. And I always wanted to have some padding in my budget If the CFO were to call and demand a 10% or 20% budget cut, and I sense that our customers We're acting in a similar way. Mid to late Q2, we began to sense the moderation of this cautious approach And we were able to finally close an opportunity that had been in the pipeline for more than 2 quarters. Continuing into Q3, we've been informed that we've won on several relatively long standing quotes and RFP responses, Which date back to Q4 2022 and Q1 of 2023. Speaker 200:05:49We've now finalized some of these And others are in the last stages of the formal contract process, which when complete will lead to increased yield revenue in Q3 and beyond. I'm not going to provide specific guidance relative to revenue and the timing associated with these contracts Because we do not have complete clarity in terms of the delivery schedules and operational timing of at least one large contract And there are others that have closed or will close shortly, but are planned to start small in Q3 and then are expected to grow in Q4 and beyond. Our consulting business experienced a 5% increase in Q2 quarter over quarter and is showing steady continued growth thus far in Q3. Of note, in late Q2, we signed a well known customer in the travel and leisure industry and revenue from that contract will show up in As you hear almost every day in the news, cyber attacks on our nation and our critical infrastructure continuing at an unprecedented Rest assured Intrusion is engaging with our government and critical infrastructure institutions to provide the needed Tools to identify, deflect and eliminate these cyber threats. So we do expect to see increased revenue from these efforts As well. Speaker 200:07:13And Kim will cover all of our financial highlights in a lot more detail in a few minutes, but I wanted to address a few more topics Before we go to Kia. On Friday, August 11, 2023, we filed an initial S-one registration With the SEC to sell up to $8,500,000 in stock and warrants. The intended use of the proceeds from this public offering will be For general corporate purposes, potential acquisitions and may include the reduction of up to $1,000,000 of our outstanding debt. Coupled with the recent restructuring of our outstanding debt, IntuGen will have the necessary financial resources Execute our business plans for the remainder of 2023 and the first half of twenty twenty four at a minimum And longer as increases in revenue occur. Our product development efforts have continued even in the face of Reduce levels of engineering resources. Speaker 200:08:13In particular, this month, we will go to general availability On version 9.1 of our Shield software, which has many improvements over prior versions, including enhancements to reporting, Additional threat monitoring capabilities, improvements to our renderer software and significant changes to Shield's management interface. We are also nearing completion of our integration of Shield Technology into the PSM's firewall from Netgate. And we will shortly introduce a cloud dashboard, which will allow customers to consolidate reporting across multiple Shield and PFS instances. Our previously announced partnerships with SEIC, Netgate and others remain strong and are leading to new opportunities showcase our technology and generate new business. 1 of our newer partners, First Advisory Health Services, Has been including intrusion in their RFP responses and consulting proposals, one of which we've recently won, With multiple others in the queue for a decision. Speaker 200:09:20As many of you know, the healthcare sector has been particularly hard yet And we believe that partnerships with leading cybersecurity organizations like First Advisory Health Services We'll provide great growth opportunities for Intrusion. Finally, with some growing evidence in hand of traction in the marketplace For Intrusion Shield Technology, we will once again explore more strategic technology partner relationships. We've heard over and over again that Intrusion technology is unique, but the big technology players have routinely looked for evidence of Customer adoption. We believe that in the next two quarters, we can begin to show those proof points that the larger technology players have been looking for. With that said, I'd now like to turn the call over to Kim for a detailed review of our Q2 financials. Speaker 200:10:16Kim? Speaker 300:10:18Thanks, Tony. Financial results for our Q2 show marked improvement over Q1. To share a few highlights, revenues grew 12%, gross margin increased 2.4%. We realized 30% savings or $1,500,000 as a result of Q1 cost reductions, All of these resulting in improved earnings per share and reduced cash burn. Now providing more color and details surrounding the quarter performance. Speaker 300:10:51Revenues for the Q2 of 2023 were $1,500,000 an increase of $200,000 or 12% sequentially With both Shield and Consulting revenue showing growth. 2nd quarter Shield revenue totaled $400,000 an increase $100,000 sequentially over prior quarter. The increase in Shield revenues is the result of both new customer growth And increased utilization by existing customers. Consulting revenue in the 2nd quarter totaled 1,100,000 representing a 5% increase sequentially. Revenues for the 6 months ended June 30, 2023, totaled 2,800,000 A decline of $1,100,000 or 29% when compared to the 2022 period. Speaker 300:11:42The decline is a result of decreased consulting revenues of $1,300,000 related to the loss of a contract in the 4th quarter In which Intrusion's prime sponsor chose not to renew the final option year of a contract. This loss was partially offset by increased Revenues of $200,000 As disclosed in prior quarters, while the loss of the consulting contract significantly impacted Intrusion's Top line revenue. The gross margin on this contract was 14% and as a result had marginal impact on profitability. Gross profit margin was 79% for the Q2 of 2023 compared to 56% in the Q2 of 2022. The increased margin in the current quarter is a result of our product mix with Shield revenues representing a higher percentage of revenues And the loss of the low margin consulting contract as previously mentioned. Speaker 300:12:39Shield revenues currently represent 29% of our revenues. In late March, we implemented cost reduction measures we estimated would result in cash savings of approximately $1,500,000 per quarter on a go forward basis. These measures included the voluntary reduction in salaries of certain of our executive officers For a 6 month period, reduction of 16 full time positions and reduction in the use of contractors. Many of these reductions were in research and development, which impact the number and frequency of product releases. I am pleased to report that we did indeed realize $1,500,000 in savings during the Q2. Speaker 300:13:24Operating expense in Q2 2023 totaled $4,100,000 a decrease of 1 point $1,000,000 sequentially from Q1 2023. When adjusted for increased non cash Share based compensation, net operating expense savings totaled $1,200,000 Additionally, during the quarter, we spent $300,000 less Uncapitalized internally developed software. As a reminder, as we grow our customer base and increase revenues, We may choose to accelerate our product development in future periods, which will result in increased spending. We will and are continuing to evaluate each The net loss for the Q2 of 2023 was $3,100,000 or $0.15 per share compared to a loss of $4,700,000 or $0.22 per share for Q1 2023. When compared to the same periods in 2022, Earnings per share improved $0.06 per share from a loss of $0.21 per share for the quarter and improved $0.05 per share for the 6 months. Speaker 300:14:40Turning to the balance sheet. On June 30th, we had cash and cash equivalents of 0,300,000 down from 3,000,000 at year end. On Friday, August 11, we filed a preliminary registration statement Form S-one to raise up to $8,500,000 in gross proceeds from the sale of common stock in orange. Also in August, we entered into a forbearance and standstill agreement with Streeterville Capital to extend the maturity dates on each of the two notes by 12 months. Under this new agreement, the maturity dates are now September 10, 2024 and December 29, 2024. Speaker 300:15:22Both the S-one filing and the amendment to the Streaterville notes, I believe, are positive steps towards providing the liquidity and runway needed With that financial overview, I'd like to now turn the call back over to Tony for a few closing comments. Tony? Speaker 200:15:41Thanks, Kim. To conclude, we're continuing to make solid progress on overcoming our short term liquidity issues to ensure The company has the funds it needs to propel our growth. And as we look forward to the second half of the year, the Growing interest in our Shield family of products gives us confidence that we are heading in the right direction as we continue to focus on satisfying our Customers' needs with cost effective cybersecurity solutions for their enterprise. I look forward to sharing the next steps in our journey with all of you. I want to personally thank our investors and financial partners for their continued patience and support as we execute our strategy. Speaker 200:16:25This concludes our prepared remarks. And I'll now turn the call over to the operator for our Q and A session. Thanks very much. Operator00:16:35We will now begin the Q and A session. The first question comes from the line of Aaron Warrick with Breakout Investors. Please proceed. Speaker 400:17:16Hey, guys. Thanks for all of that commentary, Tony. Sounds like things are starting to change in the macro environment for you guys as well as At the company level, so that's good to hear. Wondering if we could get an update what your expectation is For the SEC investigation to close and also a commentary if you feel that that's with a partner like SEI, if that's Slow down potentially some of the progress you could make there since they're serving a lot of the investment world. Speaker 500:17:52Let me take each of those separately. On the SEC front, Well, there's a few things that we know and then there's a few things that we don't know. What we know or what we've been told is that The investigative part of the journey is largely over. There's no more witnesses that We know of that need to be called, and we've answered all the questions, submitted all the Materials, all of the things that the SEC has asked us to submit. And so we've been told that we're kind of at the end of that process. Speaker 500:18:37We now need to wait for the final Adjudication, I guess, or ruling from the SEC, we're expecting it to be Largely favorable to the company. And what we're told is that It needs to undergo review, not only at the local office, but back in Washington, which should be Going on kind of simultaneously now and we're hoping to have a final judgment sometime in the September, October, early October kind of timeframe. So that's about all I can say at this point. But I think that that long journey is now behind us and we're looking forward to the day when We no longer even have to talk about it. On the SEIC front, we continue to work with them. Speaker 500:19:40We continue to Engage in customer conversations. Obviously, they're trying to build their business As we are anecdotally, I think they've been subject to some of the same kinds of Challenges that we've had, but I think they also sense a bit of thawing. And so We're really looking forward to continuing to work with them and our other partners as well, as we mutually try to grow our businesses. So Love those guys, love the work they're doing and we'll see What business we can do together. Speaker 400:20:29Okay. Thank you for that. It sounds good on the SEC front. I think, I don't know if it was right after the beginning of the year or before the beginning of the year. And I don't think you named The customer, but there was a sizable customer. Speaker 400:20:44You were part of some sort of like a competition or down selection or something that You guys were selected and I don't know if that's been implemented, that contract. I haven't heard you say anything about it, but it sounded like it was Quite sizable to the extent that certainly doesn't appear to be in your Q2 numbers. I'm wondering what the status of that contract is? Speaker 500:21:06Yes. This one in particular has been unlike any other business transaction I've experienced my now long career. This opportunity, as you correctly said, kind of we thought was going to be late Q4 or maybe early Q1, there was a series of delays and I wouldn't call it go fetch another rock exercise, but a series of Presentations and decisions, More presentations and so on, without any real end in sight other than We really like your stuff and we've put it in our budget and it's going to get approved and all those kinds of things. In the July kind of timeframe, we began to see more Direct signs that this particular organization was serious and that has now continued and we have Some confidence that that one is actually going to close. But at the same time, given our history, I can't tell you exactly when. Speaker 500:22:37But we are seeing very positive signs that it's moving towards A close and we're we were actually the sole source supplier on this particular contract. So If it happens, it's going to be us. Speaker 400:22:54Good, good. Glad to hear. I think I heard you mentioned something about the Capital raise, you said for general corporate purposes, and you mentioned something about potential acquisitions. What kind of acquisitions are you looking at? What might we expect to see on that front? Speaker 500:23:15Well, we're always looking for combinations of our technology and others that are accretive and We'd add value in the marketplace. So similar to some of the partnership deals That we've done, we're always looking at the market eyes wide open. We get approached from time to time with Novel and interesting technology and if it's the right match and the right fit And so on, we certainly consider acquisitions. It's not our primary Thing that we're trying to do, we're trying to just grow Shield and make that successful And along with all the other initiatives that we've already talked about, but if the right thing comes along, we'd certainly move quickly to Try to capture innovative technology that would work well for us. Speaker 400:24:20Okay. Final one for me and may hop back in the queue. But anyway, wanted to ask, you said something about you're close to the Full integration with Netgate, PFSense, what's sort of the thought or plan there when that happens? I know that Opportunity you guys were pretty excited about when you first announced it. Speaker 500:24:41Yes. So just by way of background for those that haven't followed This story in its entirety, because of the nature of what we do, a lot of customers Actually, confuse us with firewall technology. And we say very clearly, when we're in a customer We're not a firewall. We're a companion piece of software that can help make your firewall better, No matter whether it's a Palo Alto firewall or Cisco firewall or anybody else's firewall. We also, once customers understand our technology, often say, what firewall would you recommend? Speaker 500:25:31They're thinking about switching a firewall. And we also discovered that many of our customers actually use Yes. Sense from Netgate has their firewall. So we made the determination several months ago To try to more fully integrate our capability as a plug in to the PFSENSE Firewall. And so that work has been going on in the engineering organization for about 3 months Since we first announced the partnership with Netgate and that work is now nearing completion. Speaker 500:26:16Of the various manifestations of that, I'm most excited about The integration in the cloud so that we can serve an emerging and growing number of customers who are looking for better protection for their workloads in the cloud. So that's where most of our efforts have been to make that a really good experience. And I mentioned on the call, as a part of that work, we also have developed a cloud dashboard, Which will allow consolidated reporting across multiple Shield instances. So if you have On Prem Shield or Shield in the cloud, or Shield on the endpoint, you'll be able to get consolidated Threat reporting across all of our products and the PFSENSE firewall as well. So pretty exciting development and We think that's going to have a nice impact with both existing customers as well as open some new opportunities for us. Operator00:27:33The next question comes from the line of Zach Cummins with B. Riley Securities. Please proceed. Speaker 600:27:40Hi, good afternoon, Tony and Kim. Thanks for taking my questions. Tony, in terms of incremental traction with Shield, I mean, can you just talk about which product lines that you're really seeing the most interest from customers and which you believe will be kind of the key driver for near Term growth for Shield in the next couple of quarters? Speaker 500:28:03Yes. It's really Kind of a bifurcated thing at the moment. Our most mature product is obviously the Shield on prem, the hardware based version of Shield, and that's among existing customers Then the biggest selling product that we have for Shield. But increasingly, What we're getting from an inbound perspective is interest in cloud. And I'll also say, And this is something we've been working on, the hybrid model. Speaker 500:28:41So I've got some workloads in the data center. I've got some Workloads in the cloud, I want to protect both, but I want a single dashboard to be able to do reporting across Whatever I have in my environment. So that's where we're positioned for the future. I think that over time a lot of that will more than likely shift to cloud, but I don't think The data center or on prem workloads are ever going to completely go away. So we need to be in both. Speaker 500:29:21The other thing that's happened and we do see a pattern here is there's a lot of companies that are pretty Distributed in terms of having lots of branch offices or remote locations or Things like that and they can't afford really expensive firewalls and really expensive cyber protection Technology, if they're a distributed sort of organization like that. And so They come to us looking for more low cost but effective solutions and that's where we think the EF Sense and Intrusion together can not only offer better protection than you would get from Classic firewalls, but probably do it at a much better cost than Exists anywhere else today. So we're pretty excited about that space. The cloud workloads will, As I said earlier, continue to grow. Everybody's moving whatever they can to the cloud. Speaker 500:30:34And So over time, I expect that to be probably the more dominant space just because the amount of work loads that go there. Speaker 600:30:48Understood. That's helpful. And my follow-up question is really just geared towards expenses. Great to see the sequential reduction here in Q2 versus Q1. But with the pending offering outstanding, I mean, can you give us a sense Where you would be looking to put incremental investment dollars really to drive accelerated traction across your Shield product line? Speaker 500:31:15It's a combination of marketing. We've got to do a better job of getting Word out in supporting our partner ecosystem. And then we've got it, Obviously, if we have the ability to, I would invest more in our engineering to accelerate Product development. As I've mentioned at previous calls, we've got a multiyear roadmap of things we can do. We're certainly getting great input from customers on things they would like to see us do. Speaker 500:31:53And all of that is a function of just how much engineering resource you can put into it or As we've talked earlier that you could buy commercially on the outside. So we're always trying to keep a good balance Between how we spend money and the value it delivers to customers and Enhancing our marketability. So it's I don't know that there's a Magic formula there, but that's what we're trying to manage. Speaker 600:32:32Great. Well, Operator00:32:42The next question goes to the line of Ed Woo with Ascendiant Capital. Please proceed. Speaker 700:32:48Yes. Thank you for taking my question. My question is just on the general state of businesses and government spending on IT. Has it changed significantly in the past quarter? And also, it seems as regardless of the economy, it seems like cyber attacks and Stuff just keep rising. Speaker 700:33:05Does it insulate you guys from the fluctuations in budget spending? Thank you. Speaker 500:33:13Yes. I think there's an interesting set of things that I alluded to a little bit. During the Q1 of this year, it seemed like, there were, I'll say, fewer headline Attention grabbing things about cyber. And then in Q2, it accelerated again. And we've seen it Now again in Q3. Speaker 500:33:41And as a practical matter, cybersecurity spending is a Function of what the Board of Directors of Public Companies and legislators and what have you for The public sector believe they should be spending their money on. And when it's a relatively quiet period, there's less Noise and energy towards spending on cybersecurity and then when there's a bunch of very public Sorts of attacks, and the noise level goes up and people pay a lot more attention and it seems like The budgets get lifted to go address those kinds of things. So in the last 2 or 3 months, you've seen healthcare get attacked really heavily. You've seen State and local governments, our local community here in Dallas had a big breach And that gets attention and then that starts the budget dollars flowing. So we definitely saw a lot more interest. Speaker 500:34:58As I said on the earlier remarks, late Q2 and Q3 seems like the Attention level and the nervousness frankly about cybersecurity status Got elevated and we think that will translate into good revenue for Intrusion over time. Speaker 700:35:25Great. Well, thanks for answering my questions and I wish you guys good luck. Thank you. Speaker 500:35:30Thank you. Operator00:35:33Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Scott Buck with H. C. Wainwright. Please proceed. Speaker 800:35:42Hi, good afternoon, guys. Apologies if some of these have been covered. I got on the call a little bit late. Operator00:35:49Could you talk Speaker 800:35:49a little bit about where the gains in consulting are coming from beginning in the second half of the year? Is that completely new business or is that business you're Coming back to or business you're re upping at a higher price points, just kind of curious what the dynamics are there? Speaker 500:36:08Yes. In terms of reported revenue for Q2, it largely was increases in existing customer Relationships where they're sending more work our way. As we mentioned on the call, we did sign A large provider of leisure services That we'll see revenue in Q3 and beyond Q4. But so that was a new logo and A brand new customer, but the rest of it right now is from existing customers. And Frankly, we expect that to continue to grow. Speaker 500:36:54Of course, the only caveat with government spending is We started a new fiscal year October 1. So if there's a CR or any perturbation in that process, It could have the usual impact on us. But right now for existing contracts, We see moderate growth continuing to occur. Speaker 800:37:20Okay. That's helpful. And then following up a little bit on your Q and A with Zach. On the cost cutting, one, I guess, is there any additional room where you think you may have a little Have the ability to cut a little bit more? And 2, where you cut to, does that give you do you still have the cost infrastructure in place to be able to support A real ramp in growth, if we should see one over the next few quarters? Speaker 500:37:47I do think there's a little room. Remember, we're burning off some things like any company we signed some contracts that are difficult to Negate, your contract is committed to spend money on things whether you're actually using the services or not. So there's a Few areas where as those contracts expire, we won't renew and we'll be able to take Savings that will show up in the quarter over quarter announcements Or reports that we issue, but largely I think we're probably as low as We feel comfortable and with some additional revenue coming We need to really focus on those areas we need to invest in to propel growth even faster. Speaker 800:38:51Great. That's helpful. And last one, did you guys say what Shield revenue was in the quarter? Speaker 500:39:00I think we did. Yes, do you want to Speaker 300:39:01Yes, it was 400,000 or 400,000 Speaker 800:39:08Okay, perfect. Thanks a lot guys. That's it for me. Speaker 300:39:13Thank you. Operator00:39:18The next question comes from the line of Ross Taylor with ARS Investment Partners. Please proceed. Speaker 900:39:26Just a couple of quick questions, Tony. First, in the past, the company at the times benefited from end of the year Budget allocation, the idea that in the federal government, if you have money left over at the end of the year, you sure don't want to return it to the pool. One is, would we expect to see that benefit us this year? And if so, would that be in the consulting side? And then the second question, which you can address in perhaps the same flow of consciousness is, one of the areas I've been probably most frustrated with is the fact that we have not seen any kind of meaningful uptake from the government. Speaker 900:40:06The DoD, the intelligence services and the like, it's quite clear from things we're seeing that we're being hacked Aggressively that they're penetrating things. And I would think that given your relationship with some of these agencies and some of the 3 letter agencies and the like that, This would be a product that we would be seeing. Speaker 500:40:27Yes. Great questions, Ross. We are Talking about to our government customers about year end money, I can never count on it, But I'm quite hopeful that we're going to be able to mine that to some degree. And we also have Submitted proposals for the new budget year that begins October 1 to address exactly some of these problems that you're seeing in the headlines and what have you and we have gotten pretty positive response on those. As with anything government, stay tuned. Speaker 500:41:11We'll see what happens. But from my perspective, it's a more positive Keeping my fingers crossed that we can both help but also generate some great revenue from that. And whether it comes at year end or becomes part of a regular ongoing program remains to be seen. But I think the second part of your question was adoption of Shield by Public Agencies. And we haven't done, I would say, as good a job as I would like us to do in terms of Marketing Shield to the public sector. Speaker 500:42:17We've got a few resellers in that space and they're starting to make some noise That we'll benefit from, but it is an area where we could probably with a little more marketing dollars and Leveraging some of the relationships we have do a little bit better. So again, stay tuned on that. It's an area that I would expect we'll make some progress then. Operator00:42:52Thank you. I will now hand back the call over to Tony for closing remarks. Speaker 500:43:02All right. Well, thanks for the questions. We really appreciate everyone's tuning in today. As I said in the beginning, this has been a very interesting journey of a year and a half or so Into it and we knew it was going to be a bit of an uphill battle. I'm proud to be here and I'm Very happy with the team that I work with. Speaker 500:43:28I think that we're going to have a really exciting second half of this year. And I look forward to speaking with you, if not before, as we report our Q3 earnings. And as I said in the beginning, I think this now marks a turnaround point for intrusion and I see a great future In front of us. So look forward to sharing that with you on future calls and appreciate all the patience And also valuable input that we've gotten from our long term shareholders. It really is helpful and I appreciate the time you spend Operator00:44:19That concludes today's conference call. Thank you. You may now disconnect yourRead morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallIntrusion Q2 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Intrusion Earnings HeadlinesIntrusion Inc. 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(INTZ) Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptApril 29, 2025 | seekingalpha.comA Peek at Intrusion's Future EarningsApril 28, 2025 | benzinga.comSee More Intrusion Headlines Get Earnings Announcements in your inboxWant to stay updated on the latest earnings announcements and upcoming reports for companies like Intrusion? Sign up for Earnings360's daily newsletter to receive timely earnings updates on Intrusion and other key companies, straight to your email. Email Address About IntrusionIntrusion (NASDAQ:INTZ), a cybersecurity company in the United States. The company offers its customers access to threat intelligence database, which contains the historical data, known associations, and reputational behavior of Internet Protocol addresses. It offers INTRUSION Shield, a zero trust reputation-based Software as a Service solution that inspects and kills dangerous network connections. The company also provides INTRUSION TraceCop, a big data tool that contains an inventory of network selectors and enrichments to support forensic investigations; and INTRUSION Savant, a network monitoring solution that uses the data available in TraceCop to identify suspicious traffic in real-time. In addition, it engages in the provision of pre-and post-sales support services, such as network security design, system installation, and technical consulting services. The company serves US federal government entities, state and local government entities, and companies ranging from mid-market to large enterprises through a direct sales force and value-added resellers. The company was formerly known as Intrusion.com, Inc. and changed its name to Intrusion Inc. in November 2001. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:09For those of you participating in the conference call, there will be an opportunity for your questions at the end of today's prepared remarks. Please note this conference is being recorded. And audio replay of the conference call will be available to the company's web I would now like to turn the call over to Josh Carroll with Investor Relations. Please proceed. Speaker 100:00:34Thank you, and welcome, everyone. Joining me today are Tony Scott, Chief Executive Officer and Kimberly Pinson, Chief Financial Officer. This call is being webcast and will be archived on the Investor Relations section of our website. Before I turn the call over to Tony, I'd like to remind everyone that the statements made during this conference call relating to the company's expected future performance, future business prospects Future events or plans may include forward looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Please refer to our SEC filings for more information on the specific risk factors as our actual results to differ materially from the projections prescribed in today's Any forward looking statements that we make on this call are based upon information that we believe as of today, We undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of the new information or future events. Speaker 100:01:33In addition to U. S. GAAP reporting, We report certain financial measures that do not conform to generally accepted accounting principles. During the call, we may use non GAAP measures If we believe it is useful to investors or if we believe it will help investors better understand our performance or business trends. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Tony for a few opening remarks. Speaker 200:01:55Well, thank you, Josh. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us today. In today's call, I'll cover our high level Q2 financial results and provide an update on our product offerings, our traction in the market, Our pipeline, I'll talk about our recent S-one filing and other highlights from Q2 as well as provide some early visibility uphill battle for some period of time as we reoriented our products, dealt with several daunting legal battles, Changed our sales and marketing approach and raised capital and took on debt in order to survive for the company. I joined Intrusion because of my firm belief that Intrusion possessed unique intellectual property, At the right talent to continue to innovate and grow that valuable base and that there was a need in the marketplace for the kind of solutions that As I've said on previous calls, those fundamental beliefs remain true today And have strengthened as we march down the path towards our future. Clearly, it's not been easy nor has everything gone as hoped or as planned. Speaker 200:03:16But I believe that this quarter should be viewed as an early indicator of the turnaround in Intrusion's business and a reflection of the hard work that we've been doing As you will hear from Kim later and in more detail, total revenue for the Q2 was $1,500,000 An increase of $200,000 sequentially. And as we announced in our preliminary results press release last month, Shield revenues for the Q2 were $400,000 We anticipate that we will see additional growth in Intrusion Shield revenue during the second half of the year. As a result of our existing sales efforts and our robust pipeline, which gives us confidence, ThirShield family of products is and will continue to gain traction in the highly competitive cybersecurity marketplace. Having said that, I'd like to add a little more color and some context regarding sales, bookings and the current pipeline As you've heard me describe on previous calls, we sensed a pretty significant and growing level of interest in our shield offerings early in the year, which by the way continues. But we were not seeing that interest translate into signed contracts. Speaker 200:04:38Many potential customers told us that they were highly interested in our solutions, but were cautiously watching their budgets and holding back And much of their new cybersecurity and IT project spending in anticipation of potential business downturns And the threat of unplanned budget cuts. I know from my own experience as a CIO that the IT and cybersecurity context It's not independent from the overall business environment. And I always wanted to have some padding in my budget If the CFO were to call and demand a 10% or 20% budget cut, and I sense that our customers We're acting in a similar way. Mid to late Q2, we began to sense the moderation of this cautious approach And we were able to finally close an opportunity that had been in the pipeline for more than 2 quarters. Continuing into Q3, we've been informed that we've won on several relatively long standing quotes and RFP responses, Which date back to Q4 2022 and Q1 of 2023. Speaker 200:05:49We've now finalized some of these And others are in the last stages of the formal contract process, which when complete will lead to increased yield revenue in Q3 and beyond. I'm not going to provide specific guidance relative to revenue and the timing associated with these contracts Because we do not have complete clarity in terms of the delivery schedules and operational timing of at least one large contract And there are others that have closed or will close shortly, but are planned to start small in Q3 and then are expected to grow in Q4 and beyond. Our consulting business experienced a 5% increase in Q2 quarter over quarter and is showing steady continued growth thus far in Q3. Of note, in late Q2, we signed a well known customer in the travel and leisure industry and revenue from that contract will show up in As you hear almost every day in the news, cyber attacks on our nation and our critical infrastructure continuing at an unprecedented Rest assured Intrusion is engaging with our government and critical infrastructure institutions to provide the needed Tools to identify, deflect and eliminate these cyber threats. So we do expect to see increased revenue from these efforts As well. Speaker 200:07:13And Kim will cover all of our financial highlights in a lot more detail in a few minutes, but I wanted to address a few more topics Before we go to Kia. On Friday, August 11, 2023, we filed an initial S-one registration With the SEC to sell up to $8,500,000 in stock and warrants. The intended use of the proceeds from this public offering will be For general corporate purposes, potential acquisitions and may include the reduction of up to $1,000,000 of our outstanding debt. Coupled with the recent restructuring of our outstanding debt, IntuGen will have the necessary financial resources Execute our business plans for the remainder of 2023 and the first half of twenty twenty four at a minimum And longer as increases in revenue occur. Our product development efforts have continued even in the face of Reduce levels of engineering resources. Speaker 200:08:13In particular, this month, we will go to general availability On version 9.1 of our Shield software, which has many improvements over prior versions, including enhancements to reporting, Additional threat monitoring capabilities, improvements to our renderer software and significant changes to Shield's management interface. We are also nearing completion of our integration of Shield Technology into the PSM's firewall from Netgate. And we will shortly introduce a cloud dashboard, which will allow customers to consolidate reporting across multiple Shield and PFS instances. Our previously announced partnerships with SEIC, Netgate and others remain strong and are leading to new opportunities showcase our technology and generate new business. 1 of our newer partners, First Advisory Health Services, Has been including intrusion in their RFP responses and consulting proposals, one of which we've recently won, With multiple others in the queue for a decision. Speaker 200:09:20As many of you know, the healthcare sector has been particularly hard yet And we believe that partnerships with leading cybersecurity organizations like First Advisory Health Services We'll provide great growth opportunities for Intrusion. Finally, with some growing evidence in hand of traction in the marketplace For Intrusion Shield Technology, we will once again explore more strategic technology partner relationships. We've heard over and over again that Intrusion technology is unique, but the big technology players have routinely looked for evidence of Customer adoption. We believe that in the next two quarters, we can begin to show those proof points that the larger technology players have been looking for. With that said, I'd now like to turn the call over to Kim for a detailed review of our Q2 financials. Speaker 200:10:16Kim? Speaker 300:10:18Thanks, Tony. Financial results for our Q2 show marked improvement over Q1. To share a few highlights, revenues grew 12%, gross margin increased 2.4%. We realized 30% savings or $1,500,000 as a result of Q1 cost reductions, All of these resulting in improved earnings per share and reduced cash burn. Now providing more color and details surrounding the quarter performance. Speaker 300:10:51Revenues for the Q2 of 2023 were $1,500,000 an increase of $200,000 or 12% sequentially With both Shield and Consulting revenue showing growth. 2nd quarter Shield revenue totaled $400,000 an increase $100,000 sequentially over prior quarter. The increase in Shield revenues is the result of both new customer growth And increased utilization by existing customers. Consulting revenue in the 2nd quarter totaled 1,100,000 representing a 5% increase sequentially. Revenues for the 6 months ended June 30, 2023, totaled 2,800,000 A decline of $1,100,000 or 29% when compared to the 2022 period. Speaker 300:11:42The decline is a result of decreased consulting revenues of $1,300,000 related to the loss of a contract in the 4th quarter In which Intrusion's prime sponsor chose not to renew the final option year of a contract. This loss was partially offset by increased Revenues of $200,000 As disclosed in prior quarters, while the loss of the consulting contract significantly impacted Intrusion's Top line revenue. The gross margin on this contract was 14% and as a result had marginal impact on profitability. Gross profit margin was 79% for the Q2 of 2023 compared to 56% in the Q2 of 2022. The increased margin in the current quarter is a result of our product mix with Shield revenues representing a higher percentage of revenues And the loss of the low margin consulting contract as previously mentioned. Speaker 300:12:39Shield revenues currently represent 29% of our revenues. In late March, we implemented cost reduction measures we estimated would result in cash savings of approximately $1,500,000 per quarter on a go forward basis. These measures included the voluntary reduction in salaries of certain of our executive officers For a 6 month period, reduction of 16 full time positions and reduction in the use of contractors. Many of these reductions were in research and development, which impact the number and frequency of product releases. I am pleased to report that we did indeed realize $1,500,000 in savings during the Q2. Speaker 300:13:24Operating expense in Q2 2023 totaled $4,100,000 a decrease of 1 point $1,000,000 sequentially from Q1 2023. When adjusted for increased non cash Share based compensation, net operating expense savings totaled $1,200,000 Additionally, during the quarter, we spent $300,000 less Uncapitalized internally developed software. As a reminder, as we grow our customer base and increase revenues, We may choose to accelerate our product development in future periods, which will result in increased spending. We will and are continuing to evaluate each The net loss for the Q2 of 2023 was $3,100,000 or $0.15 per share compared to a loss of $4,700,000 or $0.22 per share for Q1 2023. When compared to the same periods in 2022, Earnings per share improved $0.06 per share from a loss of $0.21 per share for the quarter and improved $0.05 per share for the 6 months. Speaker 300:14:40Turning to the balance sheet. On June 30th, we had cash and cash equivalents of 0,300,000 down from 3,000,000 at year end. On Friday, August 11, we filed a preliminary registration statement Form S-one to raise up to $8,500,000 in gross proceeds from the sale of common stock in orange. Also in August, we entered into a forbearance and standstill agreement with Streeterville Capital to extend the maturity dates on each of the two notes by 12 months. Under this new agreement, the maturity dates are now September 10, 2024 and December 29, 2024. Speaker 300:15:22Both the S-one filing and the amendment to the Streaterville notes, I believe, are positive steps towards providing the liquidity and runway needed With that financial overview, I'd like to now turn the call back over to Tony for a few closing comments. Tony? Speaker 200:15:41Thanks, Kim. To conclude, we're continuing to make solid progress on overcoming our short term liquidity issues to ensure The company has the funds it needs to propel our growth. And as we look forward to the second half of the year, the Growing interest in our Shield family of products gives us confidence that we are heading in the right direction as we continue to focus on satisfying our Customers' needs with cost effective cybersecurity solutions for their enterprise. I look forward to sharing the next steps in our journey with all of you. I want to personally thank our investors and financial partners for their continued patience and support as we execute our strategy. Speaker 200:16:25This concludes our prepared remarks. And I'll now turn the call over to the operator for our Q and A session. Thanks very much. Operator00:16:35We will now begin the Q and A session. The first question comes from the line of Aaron Warrick with Breakout Investors. Please proceed. Speaker 400:17:16Hey, guys. Thanks for all of that commentary, Tony. Sounds like things are starting to change in the macro environment for you guys as well as At the company level, so that's good to hear. Wondering if we could get an update what your expectation is For the SEC investigation to close and also a commentary if you feel that that's with a partner like SEI, if that's Slow down potentially some of the progress you could make there since they're serving a lot of the investment world. Speaker 500:17:52Let me take each of those separately. On the SEC front, Well, there's a few things that we know and then there's a few things that we don't know. What we know or what we've been told is that The investigative part of the journey is largely over. There's no more witnesses that We know of that need to be called, and we've answered all the questions, submitted all the Materials, all of the things that the SEC has asked us to submit. And so we've been told that we're kind of at the end of that process. Speaker 500:18:37We now need to wait for the final Adjudication, I guess, or ruling from the SEC, we're expecting it to be Largely favorable to the company. And what we're told is that It needs to undergo review, not only at the local office, but back in Washington, which should be Going on kind of simultaneously now and we're hoping to have a final judgment sometime in the September, October, early October kind of timeframe. So that's about all I can say at this point. But I think that that long journey is now behind us and we're looking forward to the day when We no longer even have to talk about it. On the SEIC front, we continue to work with them. Speaker 500:19:40We continue to Engage in customer conversations. Obviously, they're trying to build their business As we are anecdotally, I think they've been subject to some of the same kinds of Challenges that we've had, but I think they also sense a bit of thawing. And so We're really looking forward to continuing to work with them and our other partners as well, as we mutually try to grow our businesses. So Love those guys, love the work they're doing and we'll see What business we can do together. Speaker 400:20:29Okay. Thank you for that. It sounds good on the SEC front. I think, I don't know if it was right after the beginning of the year or before the beginning of the year. And I don't think you named The customer, but there was a sizable customer. Speaker 400:20:44You were part of some sort of like a competition or down selection or something that You guys were selected and I don't know if that's been implemented, that contract. I haven't heard you say anything about it, but it sounded like it was Quite sizable to the extent that certainly doesn't appear to be in your Q2 numbers. I'm wondering what the status of that contract is? Speaker 500:21:06Yes. This one in particular has been unlike any other business transaction I've experienced my now long career. This opportunity, as you correctly said, kind of we thought was going to be late Q4 or maybe early Q1, there was a series of delays and I wouldn't call it go fetch another rock exercise, but a series of Presentations and decisions, More presentations and so on, without any real end in sight other than We really like your stuff and we've put it in our budget and it's going to get approved and all those kinds of things. In the July kind of timeframe, we began to see more Direct signs that this particular organization was serious and that has now continued and we have Some confidence that that one is actually going to close. But at the same time, given our history, I can't tell you exactly when. Speaker 500:22:37But we are seeing very positive signs that it's moving towards A close and we're we were actually the sole source supplier on this particular contract. So If it happens, it's going to be us. Speaker 400:22:54Good, good. Glad to hear. I think I heard you mentioned something about the Capital raise, you said for general corporate purposes, and you mentioned something about potential acquisitions. What kind of acquisitions are you looking at? What might we expect to see on that front? Speaker 500:23:15Well, we're always looking for combinations of our technology and others that are accretive and We'd add value in the marketplace. So similar to some of the partnership deals That we've done, we're always looking at the market eyes wide open. We get approached from time to time with Novel and interesting technology and if it's the right match and the right fit And so on, we certainly consider acquisitions. It's not our primary Thing that we're trying to do, we're trying to just grow Shield and make that successful And along with all the other initiatives that we've already talked about, but if the right thing comes along, we'd certainly move quickly to Try to capture innovative technology that would work well for us. Speaker 400:24:20Okay. Final one for me and may hop back in the queue. But anyway, wanted to ask, you said something about you're close to the Full integration with Netgate, PFSense, what's sort of the thought or plan there when that happens? I know that Opportunity you guys were pretty excited about when you first announced it. Speaker 500:24:41Yes. So just by way of background for those that haven't followed This story in its entirety, because of the nature of what we do, a lot of customers Actually, confuse us with firewall technology. And we say very clearly, when we're in a customer We're not a firewall. We're a companion piece of software that can help make your firewall better, No matter whether it's a Palo Alto firewall or Cisco firewall or anybody else's firewall. We also, once customers understand our technology, often say, what firewall would you recommend? Speaker 500:25:31They're thinking about switching a firewall. And we also discovered that many of our customers actually use Yes. Sense from Netgate has their firewall. So we made the determination several months ago To try to more fully integrate our capability as a plug in to the PFSENSE Firewall. And so that work has been going on in the engineering organization for about 3 months Since we first announced the partnership with Netgate and that work is now nearing completion. Speaker 500:26:16Of the various manifestations of that, I'm most excited about The integration in the cloud so that we can serve an emerging and growing number of customers who are looking for better protection for their workloads in the cloud. So that's where most of our efforts have been to make that a really good experience. And I mentioned on the call, as a part of that work, we also have developed a cloud dashboard, Which will allow consolidated reporting across multiple Shield instances. So if you have On Prem Shield or Shield in the cloud, or Shield on the endpoint, you'll be able to get consolidated Threat reporting across all of our products and the PFSENSE firewall as well. So pretty exciting development and We think that's going to have a nice impact with both existing customers as well as open some new opportunities for us. Operator00:27:33The next question comes from the line of Zach Cummins with B. Riley Securities. Please proceed. Speaker 600:27:40Hi, good afternoon, Tony and Kim. Thanks for taking my questions. Tony, in terms of incremental traction with Shield, I mean, can you just talk about which product lines that you're really seeing the most interest from customers and which you believe will be kind of the key driver for near Term growth for Shield in the next couple of quarters? Speaker 500:28:03Yes. It's really Kind of a bifurcated thing at the moment. Our most mature product is obviously the Shield on prem, the hardware based version of Shield, and that's among existing customers Then the biggest selling product that we have for Shield. But increasingly, What we're getting from an inbound perspective is interest in cloud. And I'll also say, And this is something we've been working on, the hybrid model. Speaker 500:28:41So I've got some workloads in the data center. I've got some Workloads in the cloud, I want to protect both, but I want a single dashboard to be able to do reporting across Whatever I have in my environment. So that's where we're positioned for the future. I think that over time a lot of that will more than likely shift to cloud, but I don't think The data center or on prem workloads are ever going to completely go away. So we need to be in both. Speaker 500:29:21The other thing that's happened and we do see a pattern here is there's a lot of companies that are pretty Distributed in terms of having lots of branch offices or remote locations or Things like that and they can't afford really expensive firewalls and really expensive cyber protection Technology, if they're a distributed sort of organization like that. And so They come to us looking for more low cost but effective solutions and that's where we think the EF Sense and Intrusion together can not only offer better protection than you would get from Classic firewalls, but probably do it at a much better cost than Exists anywhere else today. So we're pretty excited about that space. The cloud workloads will, As I said earlier, continue to grow. Everybody's moving whatever they can to the cloud. Speaker 500:30:34And So over time, I expect that to be probably the more dominant space just because the amount of work loads that go there. Speaker 600:30:48Understood. That's helpful. And my follow-up question is really just geared towards expenses. Great to see the sequential reduction here in Q2 versus Q1. But with the pending offering outstanding, I mean, can you give us a sense Where you would be looking to put incremental investment dollars really to drive accelerated traction across your Shield product line? Speaker 500:31:15It's a combination of marketing. We've got to do a better job of getting Word out in supporting our partner ecosystem. And then we've got it, Obviously, if we have the ability to, I would invest more in our engineering to accelerate Product development. As I've mentioned at previous calls, we've got a multiyear roadmap of things we can do. We're certainly getting great input from customers on things they would like to see us do. Speaker 500:31:53And all of that is a function of just how much engineering resource you can put into it or As we've talked earlier that you could buy commercially on the outside. So we're always trying to keep a good balance Between how we spend money and the value it delivers to customers and Enhancing our marketability. So it's I don't know that there's a Magic formula there, but that's what we're trying to manage. Speaker 600:32:32Great. Well, Operator00:32:42The next question goes to the line of Ed Woo with Ascendiant Capital. Please proceed. Speaker 700:32:48Yes. Thank you for taking my question. My question is just on the general state of businesses and government spending on IT. Has it changed significantly in the past quarter? And also, it seems as regardless of the economy, it seems like cyber attacks and Stuff just keep rising. Speaker 700:33:05Does it insulate you guys from the fluctuations in budget spending? Thank you. Speaker 500:33:13Yes. I think there's an interesting set of things that I alluded to a little bit. During the Q1 of this year, it seemed like, there were, I'll say, fewer headline Attention grabbing things about cyber. And then in Q2, it accelerated again. And we've seen it Now again in Q3. Speaker 500:33:41And as a practical matter, cybersecurity spending is a Function of what the Board of Directors of Public Companies and legislators and what have you for The public sector believe they should be spending their money on. And when it's a relatively quiet period, there's less Noise and energy towards spending on cybersecurity and then when there's a bunch of very public Sorts of attacks, and the noise level goes up and people pay a lot more attention and it seems like The budgets get lifted to go address those kinds of things. So in the last 2 or 3 months, you've seen healthcare get attacked really heavily. You've seen State and local governments, our local community here in Dallas had a big breach And that gets attention and then that starts the budget dollars flowing. So we definitely saw a lot more interest. Speaker 500:34:58As I said on the earlier remarks, late Q2 and Q3 seems like the Attention level and the nervousness frankly about cybersecurity status Got elevated and we think that will translate into good revenue for Intrusion over time. Speaker 700:35:25Great. Well, thanks for answering my questions and I wish you guys good luck. Thank you. Speaker 500:35:30Thank you. Operator00:35:33Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Scott Buck with H. C. Wainwright. Please proceed. Speaker 800:35:42Hi, good afternoon, guys. Apologies if some of these have been covered. I got on the call a little bit late. Operator00:35:49Could you talk Speaker 800:35:49a little bit about where the gains in consulting are coming from beginning in the second half of the year? Is that completely new business or is that business you're Coming back to or business you're re upping at a higher price points, just kind of curious what the dynamics are there? Speaker 500:36:08Yes. In terms of reported revenue for Q2, it largely was increases in existing customer Relationships where they're sending more work our way. As we mentioned on the call, we did sign A large provider of leisure services That we'll see revenue in Q3 and beyond Q4. But so that was a new logo and A brand new customer, but the rest of it right now is from existing customers. And Frankly, we expect that to continue to grow. Speaker 500:36:54Of course, the only caveat with government spending is We started a new fiscal year October 1. So if there's a CR or any perturbation in that process, It could have the usual impact on us. But right now for existing contracts, We see moderate growth continuing to occur. Speaker 800:37:20Okay. That's helpful. And then following up a little bit on your Q and A with Zach. On the cost cutting, one, I guess, is there any additional room where you think you may have a little Have the ability to cut a little bit more? And 2, where you cut to, does that give you do you still have the cost infrastructure in place to be able to support A real ramp in growth, if we should see one over the next few quarters? Speaker 500:37:47I do think there's a little room. Remember, we're burning off some things like any company we signed some contracts that are difficult to Negate, your contract is committed to spend money on things whether you're actually using the services or not. So there's a Few areas where as those contracts expire, we won't renew and we'll be able to take Savings that will show up in the quarter over quarter announcements Or reports that we issue, but largely I think we're probably as low as We feel comfortable and with some additional revenue coming We need to really focus on those areas we need to invest in to propel growth even faster. Speaker 800:38:51Great. That's helpful. And last one, did you guys say what Shield revenue was in the quarter? Speaker 500:39:00I think we did. Yes, do you want to Speaker 300:39:01Yes, it was 400,000 or 400,000 Speaker 800:39:08Okay, perfect. Thanks a lot guys. That's it for me. Speaker 300:39:13Thank you. Operator00:39:18The next question comes from the line of Ross Taylor with ARS Investment Partners. Please proceed. Speaker 900:39:26Just a couple of quick questions, Tony. First, in the past, the company at the times benefited from end of the year Budget allocation, the idea that in the federal government, if you have money left over at the end of the year, you sure don't want to return it to the pool. One is, would we expect to see that benefit us this year? And if so, would that be in the consulting side? And then the second question, which you can address in perhaps the same flow of consciousness is, one of the areas I've been probably most frustrated with is the fact that we have not seen any kind of meaningful uptake from the government. Speaker 900:40:06The DoD, the intelligence services and the like, it's quite clear from things we're seeing that we're being hacked Aggressively that they're penetrating things. And I would think that given your relationship with some of these agencies and some of the 3 letter agencies and the like that, This would be a product that we would be seeing. Speaker 500:40:27Yes. Great questions, Ross. We are Talking about to our government customers about year end money, I can never count on it, But I'm quite hopeful that we're going to be able to mine that to some degree. And we also have Submitted proposals for the new budget year that begins October 1 to address exactly some of these problems that you're seeing in the headlines and what have you and we have gotten pretty positive response on those. As with anything government, stay tuned. Speaker 500:41:11We'll see what happens. But from my perspective, it's a more positive Keeping my fingers crossed that we can both help but also generate some great revenue from that. And whether it comes at year end or becomes part of a regular ongoing program remains to be seen. But I think the second part of your question was adoption of Shield by Public Agencies. And we haven't done, I would say, as good a job as I would like us to do in terms of Marketing Shield to the public sector. Speaker 500:42:17We've got a few resellers in that space and they're starting to make some noise That we'll benefit from, but it is an area where we could probably with a little more marketing dollars and Leveraging some of the relationships we have do a little bit better. So again, stay tuned on that. It's an area that I would expect we'll make some progress then. Operator00:42:52Thank you. I will now hand back the call over to Tony for closing remarks. Speaker 500:43:02All right. Well, thanks for the questions. We really appreciate everyone's tuning in today. As I said in the beginning, this has been a very interesting journey of a year and a half or so Into it and we knew it was going to be a bit of an uphill battle. I'm proud to be here and I'm Very happy with the team that I work with. Speaker 500:43:28I think that we're going to have a really exciting second half of this year. And I look forward to speaking with you, if not before, as we report our Q3 earnings. And as I said in the beginning, I think this now marks a turnaround point for intrusion and I see a great future In front of us. So look forward to sharing that with you on future calls and appreciate all the patience And also valuable input that we've gotten from our long term shareholders. It really is helpful and I appreciate the time you spend Operator00:44:19That concludes today's conference call. Thank you. You may now disconnect yourRead morePowered by