Advance Auto Parts Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Leadership overhaul: Advanced Auto Parts appointed Shane O’Kelly as CEO effective September 11, named Tony Escander interim CFO, and has Gene Lee serving as interim Executive Chair while launching a comprehensive strategic and operational review.
  • Q2 results delivered net sales growth driven by DIY omnichannel and e-commerce momentum, but comparable store sales fell 0.6% and gross profit margin narrowed by 174 basis points due to pricing investments and higher supply chain costs.
  • The company is executing inventory optimization, category management initiatives and frontline compensation increases to boost availability, reduce turnover, accelerate owned-brand penetration and improve service levels.
  • Full-year guidance was tightened with net sales of $11.25–$11.35 billion, comparable store sales of –0.5% to +0.5%, operating margin of 4.0%–4.3%, EPS of $4.50–$5.10 and free cash flow of $150–$250 million, reflecting pricing actions and transition costs.
  • The ongoing review with CenterView Partners will evaluate all strategic alternatives to enhance asset productivity, cost structure and long-term shareholder value, potentially including portfolio rationalization.
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Earnings Conference Call
Advance Auto Parts Q2 2023
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There are 20 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Advanced Auto Parts Second Quarter 2023 Conference Call. Before we begin, Elizabeth Eiselman, Senior Vice President, Communications and Investor Relations, will make a brief statement concerning forward looking statements that will be discussed on this call. President. Good morning, and thank you

Speaker 1

for joining us to discuss our Q2 2023 results. I'm joined by Jean Lee, Interim Executive Chair Tom Greco, President and Chief Executive Officer and Tony Escander, Interim Chief Financial Officer. Following their prepared remarks, we will turn our attention to answering your questions. Before we begin, President. Please be advised that remarks today will contain forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

All statements other than statements of historical fact are forward looking statements, President and CEO of the Board of Directors. Please go ahead. Thank you, Elizabeth. Partners. Actual results could differ materially from those projected or implied by the forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Additional information about factors that could cause actual results to differ can be found under the captions, Forward Looking Statements President and Risk Factors in our most recent Form 10 ks and subsequent filings made with the Commission. Now, let me turn the call over to Gene Lee.

Speaker 2

President. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'm pleased to be able to join the call today and speak with all of you. I'll turn the call over to Tom President and Tony shortly to review the Q2 results and outlook for the remainder of the year. But before I do that, I'd like to take a moment to address the announcements we made This morning regarding new leadership and a comprehensive strategic and operational review as well as provide some of my own perspectives on the business, President.

Speaker 2

Following a thorough search, the Board has named Shane O'Kelly as President, Chief Executive Officer and Director of Advanced Auto Parts, effective September 11. We are pleased to have identified an individual President and CEO of the Company. James Calibert at Joint Advanced and have him come on board as we are undertaking the operational and strategic review of the business. Partners. Together with our financial advisor, CenterView Partners, we are committed to evaluating the full spectrum of alternatives and opportunities to increase Partner, shareholder value and ensure the long term success of Advance, and I'm confident Shane will add valuable insight to this review.

Speaker 2

President. Shane is a highly accomplished customer centric executive with more than 30 years of operational, strategic development, Partner, Senior Partner, Senior Partner, Senior Partner, Senior Partner, Senior Partner, Senior Partner, Senior Partner, Senior Partner, Senior Partner, Senior Partner, Senior Partner, Senior Partner, President. He joined Advance from HD Supply, where he has served as CEO since 2020, following the company's acquisition by the Home Depot. Prior to HD Supply, Shane was CEO of Interline Brands, which also operated as the Home Depot Pro. President.

Speaker 2

We are confident that Shane brings the right skill set, discipline and expertise to lead Advance into the future. President. I plan to remain in the interim executive chair role through the end of the year to work alongside Shane and the management team. President. I look forward to welcoming him to Raleigh in September.

Speaker 2

Until Shane's official start date, Tom will continue to serve as President and CEO. Thereafter, he will serve as an advisor to help ensure seamless transition of leadership responsibilities. On behalf of the entire Board, President. I thank Tom for his many contributions to Advance, which notably includes the culture he has built with highly skilled and committed team members President and a talented bench of leaders. We also announced today Tony Islander as Interim Chief Financial Officer.

Speaker 2

President. Tony brings more than 25 years of finance and accounting expertise to the role and has served as the company's Senior Vice President, Finance and Treasurer since 2020. We are beginning a search to identify the company's next permanent CFO President and CEO. And I'm pleased to have someone with Tony's experience to step into the role on an interim basis. We're also pleased to have Tony on the call today to review President and CEO of the Q2 results along with Tom.

Speaker 2

Since expanding my role to serve as Interim Executive Chair and partnering more closely with the leadership team, President. I'm taking a deeper dive into the business and our strategy. As a Board, we recognize that there is significant work to be done. President. We are conducting the operational and strategic review to develop a long term strategy to deliver best in class shareholder value.

Speaker 2

President. We are executing a number of operational improvements, including inventory optimization initiatives, improving asset productivity across the enterprise, Partners. Investments in our frontline organization to reduce turnover and disciplined cost controls, which we expect to benefit the cost Partners, and working capital while strengthening AdvanceCo long term. However, we know there's more work to be done and the team is President of Investor Relations, Inc. And looking for ways to drive even stronger performance and enhance value.

Speaker 2

The company is providing updated Product and Full Year 2023 guidance today, which considers recent performance and balance of the year expectations. President. I would note that after Shane joins next month, I expect to work closely with him on the business plan to ensure we capitalize on both Advanta's near term President and CEO of the Board. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Tom.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Gene, and good morning, everyone. Before I start, I want to express my sincere appreciation to the Board for all their support over the last 7 years. I look forward to working with Gene, Shane and Tony to enable a seamless transition. As I turn to our Q2 results, President. I also want to thank all of our team members for their relentless focus on serving our customers.

Speaker 3

Coming into the quarter, we knew Q2 was going to be challenging and that the investments we're making in both inventory to help improve availability and We talked about moving with urgency with a back to basics approach and a heightened focus on execution, and this is how we approach the quarter. President. We delivered net sales growth in the quarter. However, the balance of our Q2 financial metrics remain challenged. As Gene noted, While we're executing some operational improvements, there are further actions that need to be taken to accelerate profitable growth.

Speaker 3

President. I'll speak to our sales and transactions in the quarter, and Tony will speak to the key drivers behind our results in more detail. President. Before that, I'd like to touch briefly on steps we've taken recently to better support our people. President.

Speaker 3

During the quarter, we made investments to more strongly position Advance in attracting and retaining high caliber talent in our frontline roles. More specifically, we implemented compensation increases for key roles in our stores and supply chain. In our customer support center, we're also making investments this year to help retain high caliber talent. President. We know that having the right compensation in place for our organization is critical to maintaining our strong culture and delivering operational excellence, And we've already seen reduced turnover.

Speaker 3

Turning to net sales, we saw growth in both DIY omnichannel and DIFM During Q2, with DIY omnichannel outperforming DIFM through continued e commerce momentum, Which delivered another quarter of double digit growth. From a category perspective, motor oil, batteries, Products and Engine Management led the growth in Q2. DieHard continues to perform very well And gained unit share within batteries once again in the quarter. Meanwhile, improved availability on our Carquest brand resulted in further owned brand penetration in the quarter. Regionally, our sales growth was once again led by the West.

Speaker 3

In terms of comparable store sales, the decline of 0.6% was primarily driven Providers. By negative comparable store sales in Pro. However, we saw sequential improvement in each period in both Pro and DIY with the last 4 weeks of Q2 registering slightly positive comparable store sales growth overall. Our top line sales continued to improve into the Q3 as we delivered low single digit comparable sales growth during the 1st 4 weeks. Our performance benefited from the initiatives we've talked about earlier this year to drive improved transactions in both DIY Omnichannel and Pro.

Speaker 3

President. First, our improved availability was driven by the inventory investments we made along with year to date improvements in supply chain fill rates And store on hand rates. As in stocks improved in the quarter, we saw sequential sales growth in key hard parts categories. 2nd, our category management actions continued in Q2 to ensure we sustained competitive price targets. In addition, we've discussed in the past the opportunity to increase owned brand penetration to improve margins.

Speaker 3

As discussed on the May call, we launched a sales campaign in Q2. This was primarily targeted at President. Accelerating the transition to Carquest branded products as well as reducing slower moving inventory in our network. Finally, our field team is now in full stride executing a pro customer activation plan, highlighted by increasing customer sales calls and ensuring a high level of accountability to grow weekly customer accounts and drive share of wallet gains with existing customers. Our actions resulted in sequential improvement in transactions in Q2 compared to Q1 in both Pro and DIY.

Speaker 3

While DIY omnichannel transactions were down slightly in Q2 versus the prior year, average ticket was up mid single digits. We continue to make progress increasing loyalty with DIY consumers as evidenced by ongoing traction with our Speed Perks program, which grew by approximately 15% and ended the quarter with nearly 15,000,000 active members. Our Speedbird's percentage of transactions continues to climb and hit over 48% in the quarter, a 4 20 basis point increase President for DIY Consumers. Specific to Pro, we remain committed to delivering a best in class customer experience. Transactions moved back into positive territory in Q2, an improvement versus Q1.

Speaker 3

As expected, Private Securities and Exchange Commission. Average ticket was down slightly as we sustained our focus on maintaining competitive price targets and the execution President of the targeted sales campaign I just mentioned. Within both strategic accounts and TechNet, we saw improved performance in the quarter At Technet grew to almost 17,000 members. In summary, the actions we've taken to improve availability, Sustained competitive pricing and enhance our service helped us drive share of wallet gains and improve our call status with pro installers, President and CEO, including the very important up and down the street business. With that, I'll turn the call over to Tony to review some of the drivers behind our Q2 results and provide an update on our outlook for the full year.

Speaker 3

Tony?

Speaker 4

Thanks, Tom, and good morning. I would first like to thank the Board and Tom for their confidence in me. I would also like to thank all our team members President of the Company's Q2 2022 and comparable store sales decreased 0.6%. Gross profit margin deleveraged 174 basis points compared to the prior year, primarily driven by higher product costs Products and Supply Chain De Leverage. Sustaining competitive price targets contributed to transaction growth in the quarter.

Speaker 4

President. However, this resulted in the majority of gross margin headwinds. Additionally, we experienced higher supply chain costs that were driven by investments in our distribution center team members as well as positioning more parts closer to the customer. President. We expect these investments will help further improve retention and drive productivity.

Speaker 4

President. SG and A as a percent of net sales deleveraged year over year due to labor related inflation, which includes investments in store payroll. President. As a result of gross margin and SG and A headwinds, our Q2 operating income margin deleveraged 2 56 basis points President and CEO, our lower operating income combined with higher interest expense resulted in diluted earnings per share Free cash flow through the end of Q2 was an outflow of $309,000,000 Partners. In Q2, we had an inflow of $150,000,000 We finished the quarter with a cash balance of $277,000,000 $95,000,000 outstanding on the revolver.

Speaker 4

While we're in compliance with all debt covenants, President. We amended the interest coverage ratio in our credit agreement. In terms of full year guidance, we are slightly increasing our outlook President. We are reducing our outlook for operating income margin rates, diluted earnings per share and free cash flow. We now expect deleverage in gross margin rate in the back half.

Speaker 4

This is primarily due to our commitment to maintain competitive price targets President and CEO of Professional continues to strengthen. In addition, as we highlighted earlier, We're accelerating the sell down of products and categories to expedite the transition to higher margin owned brands. President. In terms of SG and A, we expect the compensation investments we are making in our team as well as certain nonrecurring costs, primarily related to the leadership changes announced this morning will result in slight SG and A deleverage in the back half. President.

Speaker 4

These headwinds will be partially offset by cost savings we expect to realize from our corporate restructuring earlier in the year. President. We now expect our SG and A rate at the midpoint will be slightly below the back half of last year. President. All of these factors have been considered in our full year updated guidance, which includes net sales of $11,250,000,000 President of the Company's Investor Relations Officer of $11,350,000,000 comparable store sales of minus 0.5% to positive 0.5 percent GAAP operating income margin of 4.0% to 4.3%, income tax rate of 25%, Diluted earnings per share of $4.50 to $5.10 capital expenditures of 200 to $250,000,000 a range of $150,000,000 to $250,000,000 in free cash flow And 40 to 60 new store and branch openings.

Speaker 4

With that, let's open it up for questions. Operator?

Operator

President. Our first question comes from Simon Gutman from Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 5

President. I'll have a question and a follow-up. And I guess this This is Tom, Gene and Tony. First on Worldpac, I wanted to ask how deeply it's integrated into Advance and then if you can talk about the synergy with the business today. President.

Speaker 3

Hey, good morning, Simeon. Obviously, we still run Worldpac as the design that they've had initially. They did integrate AutoPart International into Worldpac. We are able The source parts from Roll Pak, our enterprise catalog is visible to all of our customers. So in that respect, it's integrated.

Speaker 3

Partners. Overall, they still run the business relatively independently and it continues to perform very well.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then the follow-up is, if you look at and I'm going to isolate it to a couple of areas, Merchandising, Supply Chain and Operations. If we're to diagnose the biggest priorities of enhancement, Especially as new leadership looks at this business, where do you think the biggest opportunity exists between those? And then Partners. As a solution, do you think it's a combination of P and L investments and capital or does it wait to one side or the other?

Speaker 2

Good morning, Simeon, it's Gene. I think that's what the strategic review is all about, looking at the different parts of our organization And trying to determine where is the biggest leverage point. So I think it's not right for me to answer that question. I think that's a question for Shane to figure out As soon as he gets on board, I think the way you've framed it is a good way to frame it. And then I think what we need to do is Determine how do we prioritize what initiatives will give us the biggest payback as quick as possible.

Speaker 2

And I President. I would say that's in his that's will be in Shane's 90 day agenda along with me. But I don't really want to commit to which one of the 3 This is where the investment needs to be made.

Operator

Thanks, Simeon. Our next question comes from Greg Melich from Evercore ISI. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Partners. Thanks. Good morning. Given the investments in both people and not passing through pricing, I guess I have 2 parts to one question, which is what are your inflation assumptions in top line for the back half? And then second, could you fill us in on how much payroll is growing year on year, Partners.

Speaker 6

Both in the first half and then in the plan for the back half.

Speaker 3

Good morning, Greg. Yes. So we expect low single digits On the pricing front and Wage and Placement is more like mid single.

Speaker 6

And that low single digit pricing inflation, how does that what's the cadence through the year? Was that like high singles in the Q1 and then Gets to 0 or low singles in the 4th quarter?

Speaker 3

Yes. We were more like mid President. Early in the year, it's gradually coming down. We do have a lot of work we're doing on sourcing And through the category management work, which will help us a little bit with that in the back half, but it's a very gradual reduction Partners. We also have a freight benefit in the back half as you know.

Speaker 3

I'm sure that you're seeing that in other parts of the rub retail overall.

Operator

Provost. Thanks, Greg. Our next question comes from Michael Leza from UBS. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

President. Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my questions. Number 1, can you give us a rough approximation Of the sales and profitability of the Worldpac as it stands today?

Speaker 3

Partners. Yes. No, we haven't broken that out, Michael.

Speaker 7

My follow-up question, Tom, is As you think about the pricing environment, is it that Advance has just had to play a significant amount of catch up and its price gaps with the peers in the space has been widened and so it's constantly having to make these price investments Because of these wide gaps or are you seeing further decreases in prices across The space that you're having to invest in, and to what degree is this happening more so among national accounts Versus up and down the street account.

Speaker 3

There's a lot there, Michael. I'll do my best here. First of all, Prime. I think you characterized it fairly well in the back half of last year. We did see our price indices move above the market to places that we didn't like and were unacceptable to us.

Speaker 3

So we are we did start correcting that early this year and it's Sustained through the year. The other factor that's important to note is we called out the accelerated sell down of products that we're transitioning to the Carquest brand in the back President. That is something that is going to weigh on gross margin in the back half. It's neutral on dollars, but it's 30 to 35 basis points of rate in the back half. So that's also a factor.

Speaker 3

The good part of that is We're transitioning out of inventory that we've already paid for, and we're moving into higher margin products with terms. President. It's going to have a benefit for us down the road, but those are the 2 big wildcards on the or big factors rather President. National accounts versus up and down the street, there's really not a lot of difference there in terms of what we've seen. This has been a rational industry for a long time and I suspect it will be going forward.

Operator

Thanks, Michael. Our next question comes from Elizabeth Suzuki from Bank of America. President, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Great. Thank you. I just wanted to clarify on the margin guidance. So you mentioned you expect Partners. The deleverage gross margin in the back half and then some slight SG and A deleverage in the back half, but then there was a comment about Partners.

Speaker 8

Some of those headwinds being partially offset by cost savings and the SG and A rate being slightly below the back half of last year. So I just wanted to understand whether SG and A was going to be a headwind or a tailwind to margin in the second half of this year?

Speaker 3

Partners. Good morning, Liz. It's a slight headwind. So it's a little bit above last year and it's based on the investments we're making in our people. We've really prioritized President and CEO.

Speaker 3

And as Gene mentioned, that opens the door for the operational review to really look for ways to more efficiently and effectively

Speaker 8

President. Okay. So more of the margin headwind is going to be on the growth Products. And then theoretically going forward as owned brands become a larger percentage of your total that should result in some gross margin Managing in the years ahead. I mean, this is all pending whatever the strategic review comes out with, but just thinking about that one piece of the gross margin story.

Speaker 3

President. Yes, that's correct. In the back half, we expect more deleverage from gross margin. And as I just mentioned to Michael, Partners. 30, 35 basis points of that is this accelerated transition of products into CQ.

Operator

Partners. Great. Thank you. Our next question comes from Chris Hulbert from JPMorgan. Chris, your line is now open.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

President. Thanks. Good morning. So following up on an earlier question, the improvement that you've seen in the business in the last 8 weeks, Was that I guess to what degree did the DIY business improve? And then on the pro side, You mentioned both national accounts and up and down the street business improved, but it was it weighted To one side versus the other side of the pro.

Speaker 3

Yes. Good morning, Chris. Yes, we're pleased with DIY. It's our 3rd consecutive quarter Product. Growing comp sales in DIY and it did improve in the quarter.

Speaker 3

So the availability investments that we're making benefit DIY too. Our e commerce Business is performing well. Pro did has improved more. As you know, in the last half of twenty twenty two, we slipped in Pro. So disproportionately in the last several weeks, pro has improved better.

Speaker 3

And the national accounts First is up and down the street, we're seeing improvement in both. So there is good progress there. TechNet is performing better. So Really all of our professional businesses benefiting from the actions we're taking. And I will call out that the field is doing a very good job executing as well.

Speaker 3

They're getting out there, Meeting with the garages, moving up the call list, all the things that we need to do to win the business with our installers up and down the street and national accounts.

Speaker 9

Got it. And then there's a lot of questions around Worldpac sizing the business, The margins of the business is a potential way to create shareholder value. I guess can you Talk out loud for us as you think about the strategic relevance of having Worldpac in the argument from the start of the acquisition And through your tenure as always been, the expansiveness of the catalog, the one stop shop President. That Worldpac brings on top of what Advance brings. So

Speaker 2

what do you lose?

Speaker 9

Partners. And then secondly, is there any cash flow dynamics that we're concerned about here? Obviously, your free cash flow guidance has come down. President. Are you concerned that this could start to unwind some of the vendor financing programs that you have in place and there's some Compelling reason to create cash flow and better sort of financial leverage on the balance sheet?

Speaker 2

Partners. Hey, this is Gene. There was a real lot in that question. I'm not sure we're going to get to all of it. But let me just start off with, Prime.

Speaker 2

I think the first part of the question asking about Worldpac's role in the organization, I think Tom can give his opinion on that. But this is going to be Shane's decision on how and after we do the strategic and operational review, He's going to need to be the one who decides what role Roll Pack plays in the organization, whether you integrate it or you don't integrate it, you run it as a separate business and But this is going to be

Speaker 3

a shame decision as we move forward. Sure. So I mean the big thing, Chris, is the enterprise Partners. It gives us a broader assortment than anybody in the industry. Obviously, we've got national brands.

Speaker 3

We've got our own brand lineup, which we're very proud of. And then obviously the OE products that Worldpac brings to the table gives us up to 350,000 in market Product. So that gives us an advantage there and we're able to leverage that through all of the banners We sell to the customer. So that's the big thing. But again, as Gene said, we've got to go through the review and find new ways To flow through profitability to the bottom line.

Speaker 3

So that will come out of the review.

Speaker 9

Partners. And then anything on the balance sheet side?

Speaker 4

Hey, Chris. This is Tony. So We're not seeing any changes in our supplier finance programs or any attractiveness in that. So as you know, we disclosed that and you'll read more about that in the

Operator

Provost. Thanks, Chris. Our next question comes from Bret Jordan from Jefferies. Bret, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

President. Hey, good morning, guys. On the Carquest private label strategy, I guess, You've been losing some commercial market share in the last quarters and obviously are talking about price investment now around the brand. I guess, Is that something that's either is the commercial perception of that an issue in the share loss or is it an availability issue in the share loss? President.

Speaker 3

I think if you look back last year and into the 1st part of this year, it was Primarily availability, Brad, as you highlighted a minute ago. But I do think President. Our availability improvements that we've made there have been the biggest driver of the change. Our on hand rates are up Product. Very nicely in the key categories we transitioned, which you know engine management, undercar, etcetera.

Speaker 3

And that's been the bigger driver and we Expect that to continue to be a benefit for us in the back half. Our professional installers love the Carquest brand. Our brakes are the best. We have the best brake program in the business and transitioning these products has been very difficult. It's taken us more time than we would like.

Speaker 3

But once we get them in And the customer gets a chance to install them. This is a product that we get repeat business off of. Partners.

Speaker 10

Okay. And then a follow-up question on that supplier base. I guess, obviously, President. The fact the payables programs given the leverage ratio might be under some pressure. But in the transition to more private label, is that going to support Payables, are those vendors willing to take a longer term than maybe a national brand would?

Speaker 3

I mean, we obviously factor in all those changes, Brett. When we make a change from a national brand To Carquest, we know what the change in the terms are. So we factor all that in. And it's part of the calculus, right, when we make the decision. We look at the margin rate.

Speaker 3

We look at Product. We look at the vendor itself, most of which are OE providers, so they make a very high quality product and then we evaluate Partners. So it's a holistic decision that we're making in terms of selecting our suppliers.

Speaker 10

Okay. I guess President. From the forecast on cash flow for the year, where do you see the payables ratio getting down to? I guess as we add another couple of EBIT quarters that might Have your leverage ratio above 3?

Speaker 4

Yes. As you saw from Q1 to Q2, it's President and CEO of the Company is starting to go up

Speaker 2

and we expect it to continue to

Speaker 4

increase over time as we get some of those investments Partners. Yes, behind us and then we continue to build and replenish. So we actually believe that the AP ratio will continue to expand.

Speaker 10

Okay, great. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Brad.

Operator

President. Our next question comes from Seth Sigman from Barclays. Seth, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Partners. Hey, good morning, everyone. I wanted to follow-up on the gross margin. It sounds like part of the issue is pricing to cover the cost. But I'm curious, Why is that so different for AAP?

Speaker 11

And I'm curious, are you still seeing incremental cost pressures in COGS? Or is this really a function of You had elevated product and supply chain costs last year. Some of that was capitalized into inventory or on the balance sheet. It's just flowing through now as the inventory Partners. And if that's right, do you have visibility into when that starts to normalize through this year?

Speaker 3

President. I think that the earlier question sort of answered that one, Seth, which is we did see our pricing Elevate above the market in the back half of last year and we are addressing that as we go into this year and you'll see that Through the back half. So we're committed to a holistic solution here. We want to make sure our availability gets better, our visibility of our parts is better Service and delivery continues to improve and we are going to sustain the price index. We'll continue to stay focused on that.

Speaker 3

But as we get into, obviously, further out, you'll see that normalize.

Speaker 11

Okay. So if we look at the EBIT margin outlook for the second half of the year, you did lower it, but it looks like The year over year change will be down less than I guess in the first half of the year. Can you just help us contextualize what may be driving that improvement in

Speaker 3

Yes, sure. I mean, for sure on the gross margin side, President. We mentioned freight earlier. Freight becomes a tailwind for us in the back half. Some of our category management initiatives begin to benefit us in the back half.

Speaker 3

And just year over year, price versus cost is not as punitive as it was in the front half of the year. We've got more sales, so there's less supply chain, the leverage on the gross margin side. As we said, SG and A is President. Smaller, we're going to have be slightly above last year's rate on SG and A, Which involves the investments we're making in our team to make sure that we reduce turnover in the stores and really keep all the great people we have here Partners. In the corporate office.

Speaker 3

So those are the 2 drivers and both of them are going to get better than they were in the front

Speaker 11

Got it. All right. Thank you.

Operator

Thanks, Seth. Our next question comes from Stephen Sacone from Citigroup. Steven, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Great. Good morning. Thanks very much for taking my question and congrats on the new CEO announcement. I guess, Gene, my question is for you. As you take a more active role in the business, I'm curious for your assessment of how long it will take for this business to return to profitable growth.

Speaker 12

President. I know Shane will come in and it seems like you have a lot to figure out. But from your seat, do you think of this as a 1 year invest to grow margin strategy? Or is this something that's more multi peer in nature.

Speaker 2

Well, I think it's less than 1 year. I mean, I think that We should start seeing incremental improvement pretty quickly here. There's some really good actions that are being taken Provost, right now, especially around the operational front. I think we're doing a much better job today up and down the street with our Professional customers, I think we're operating at the store level much better. I think we're making significant improvements in supply chain.

Speaker 2

And Partners. More importantly, I think, when you think about our strategy with our top Products, we'll recall never out. We've made great progress there too. So I think that we are I think that the President. Price to inflation gap will continue to grow.

Speaker 2

And as we move forward, we should actually be able to price to cover inflation after we wrap. President. Therefore, you're not going to see the same kind of deleverage in the gross margin line. And so President. I think that we're going to start seeing improvement pretty quickly.

Speaker 2

We've been working hard the last 90 to 120 days on some, I think some focused initiatives that are starting to come through for us. We're seeing that in the sales line. We're excited every morning that we're Seeing some sales growth. So I think as we get past the back half of the year, we will actually see price President. At inflation or slightly above inflation, and then we can get to start to leveraging both gross margin and gross profit and our SG and A.

Speaker 2

President. That's great.

Speaker 12

Thank you for that detail. And then just to follow-up because there's been several questions clearly on WellPrep, President. I was curious with the operational and strategic review, is it fair to conclude that includes the potential for asset divestitures?

Speaker 2

President. I think there's a range of options that we have to consider. We sit here today, we think Worldpac is a great asset. President. And as I think about all our assets, I think the number one issue in our organization today is asset productivity.

Speaker 2

So we need to evaluate the productivity of all of our assets, including Worldpac. We need to understand what's the potential of all those assets, How do they fit organizationally and how to best operationalize those assets? To me, that's what the comprehensive strategic review is all about. And I think there's going to be more focus on the operational review because We have a lot of opportunity there to improve our processes and procedures from end to end. And I think that's Really over time where the cost savings will come is through improving those processes and procedures.

Speaker 2

And I think Tom mentioned earlier We were working hard on our category management. We have an outside consultant and working with us and we're making some really great progress that I think We'll show some positive results in the 2024 and I'm excited about that. But there's other opportunities and what I've been referring to as the value chain To evaluate all our processes and procedures. So, I would say we have a wide range of options. Everything is on the table.

Speaker 2

But I think we need to truly understand, Shane needs to truly understand what's the potential of all these assets and how do they fit in and how we best operationalize them.

Speaker 13

Great. Thank you for all

Speaker 2

the detail. Best of luck. Provost.

Operator

Thanks, Stephen. Our next question comes from Stephen Forbes from Guggenheim Partners. President, your line is now open. Please go

Speaker 10

ahead. Good morning.

Speaker 14

I have a 2 part question on capital spending. Partners. So first, given the reduction in spending plans year to date from the start of the year, can you help us better understand what the team has pulled back on? And then the second part is, as we think about sort of more normalized capital spending ratios looking out, any initial thoughts Partners. And what

Speaker 3

the go forward spend rate should be?

Speaker 4

Yes. Thanks, Stephen, and good morning, Stephen. This is Tony. Partners. As you'll recall in the Q1, we had a higher number of new store openings and we brought that down in our guide after the Q1.

Speaker 4

And that's primarily driving the reduction in capital spend. On a go forward basis, that's what the strategic review is going to help us identify.

Speaker 14

Thank you.

Operator

Provost. Thanks, Stephen. Our next question comes from Kate McShane from Goldman Sachs. Procurement. Your line is now open.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 15

Hi, thanks. Good morning. Thank you for taking our question. Partners. We just had a simple question about your view on current inventory levels and in stocks and if there are any categories where you still think

Speaker 3

President. Yes. So we feel pretty good, Kate, about the inventory levels. We've done a Jean mentioned the real intense focus on their highest velocity Partners. And making sure that we're in stock on those items.

Speaker 3

We've added some depth to the Eswasi SKUs in the stores and the distribution centers that's President. We've also added coverage or breadth, which is also helping. We measure that by virtue of our on hand rates And our close rates, which are both growing significantly. So we feel very good. And the categories themselves that are benefiting the most are the We were weak on last year.

Speaker 3

So the transition that was made, we had a lot of different suppliers that we're involved with. Partners. Those suppliers have really stepped up and we're grateful for that. Our suppliers are really important to us. We're starting to really make some gains in those categories And there's still a lot of room for us to grow from there.

Speaker 3

So there's nothing uniformly good or uniformly negative Partners. At this point, we've grown in aggregate and each of those categories are moving up nicely.

Operator

Provost. Thank you. Thanks, Kate. Our next question comes from Brian Nagel from Oppenheimer. Brian, your line is now open.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 16

Partners. Hi, good morning. So my first question, a bit of a follow-up to prior question, but if you look at the improving business you've seen lately, improving sales you've seen lately, Partners. How step back, how much of that is internal efforts on the part of Advance versus maybe a solidified Backdrop within the sector.

Speaker 3

Yes. I mean, that's difficult to say, Brian. Obviously, we don't really get to See that until our peers will report a more comparable timeframe and we see DIY, which we feel really good about comparatively. The pro channel is the one I'm referencing. So we really need to see how everybody else performs.

Speaker 3

It's been extremely hot this summer. So we are

Speaker 2

Hey, Brian, it's Gene. I wanted to say that what I've seen is that the team is taking a specific action and we're seeing a specific result because of that action. President. So I think Tom is correct. We need to see the backdrop.

Speaker 2

But what I can see from where I sit is They tell me we're going to do something, we do it and then we get a reaction from that. That's positive in my mind.

Speaker 16

That's helpful. I appreciate it. And then my follow-up question, in your prepared comments, you talked about, I guess, a shift you made And could there be other similar type adjustments being made here to the debt structure of the company?

Speaker 4

Hey, Brian, this is Tony. I'll take that. As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we adjusted our interest coverage ratio President. That provides a little bit of relief, primarily due to the higher interest expense that we carried earlier in the year. We did not adjust the leverage ratio.

Speaker 4

Those are our 2 primary covenants. We're confident in that. But it gives us further financial flexibility should we need it.

Operator

Provost. Thanks, Brian. Our next question comes from Scot Ciccarelli from Truist. Scott, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 17

Good morning, guys. I know you talked about improving sales trends the last, call it, 6, 8 But you posted negative comps in the first half. Can you help us understand why you would slightly raise the full year comp Prime estimate. Is it just a matter of kind of the latest momentum? Or is there something else you're expecting to play out in the back half?

Speaker 3

President. It really is the momentum we've seen in recent weeks, Scott. Obviously, the Q4 is always volatile. President. So we have to keep that in mind and we did finish the year strong on DIY in the Q4 last year.

Speaker 3

But based on everything we've We track as you guys do the multiyear comps, the multiyear sales, everything that we're doing, Partners. We feel very good about our guidance on sales.

Speaker 17

Okay. And then secondly, I know Tony talked about expectations for payables inventory to improve during the course of the year, but I think someone asked about it. Is there any kind of target ratio for the end of year? I don't think I caught that. Partners.

Speaker 4

Now we haven't identified a targeted ratio, but we expect to see improvement in the accounts payable to inventory ratio throughout the year and into next year.

Speaker 17

And no magnitude you can provide us?

Speaker 4

Not today.

Speaker 17

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Provost. Thanks, Scott. Our next question comes from Seth Basham from Wedbush. Seth, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

President. Thanks a lot and good morning. Within your professional business, are you currently seeing more gross margin rate pressure In national accounts or hop and down the street customers?

Speaker 3

Yes. I mean, It's really when we look at the competitive price index, Seth, we look at it in multiple ways, obviously. And so we are matching with or targeted in each of those channels. So There's no major difference between the 2.

Speaker 11

And then in terms of your balance sheet, with the declining flat free cash flow, do you see risk that your credit rating

Speaker 4

Yes. So we can't speak on behalf of the agencies, but we are in active dialogue with them President. All the time. We do believe that the free cash flow you see in the year is reflective of the inventory investments we've made. And if you look at in prior years, we do believe that that's a good indication of what this company can return to.

Operator

Provost. Thanks, Steph. Our next question comes from Zack Fadem from Wells Fargo. President, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 18

Hey, good morning. Is there any extra color you can provide on how the up and down the Street business has been performing relative to your national accounts. And just from an infrastructure perspective, can you talk about President. What you think your competitive advantages and disadvantages are today for serving these particular customers relative to your peers?

Speaker 3

President. First of all, the up and down the street business as we mentioned earlier, I mean, there's a lot of customers, Zach. Partners. We look at how many customers we're selling to every week. We look at the dollars per customer every week, and we are seeing progress there.

Speaker 3

I think President. Longer term, our belief is that the larger strategic accounts are going to grow faster Then the up and down the street business, but at the moment, we are seeing strength on both sides of that business. And Can you repeat the second part of your question again? I just want to make sure I understood it right.

Speaker 18

Yes. What do you think your advantages or disadvantages are

Speaker 3

President. I think it's similar to what we've said. I think it's similar on both sides of The business, I mean, it's about having an enterprise assortment. We've got a great footprint. We've got terrific brands and high quality parts And we're going to continue to leverage our availability, our visibility of our products, our service and delivery.

Speaker 3

We grew up in the professional business. Carquest is a professional brand and we'll continue to leverage all of the things that we have to win the professional business. As Gene said, The idea from here is to improve the asset productivity of our business and ensure that as we drive growth, we're able to flow it through better to the bottom line.

Speaker 18

Got it. And I know that the strategic review is ongoing, so the answer to this question may change. But As you come through all the short term noise this year around your P and L, pricing, investments, etcetera, can you talk through what you think the right

Speaker 2

President. There's a lot of room for incremental improvement year over year. We do have some structural differences than to our other Big competitors. I think they're well documented. But we know that we can improve from where we are today significantly.

Speaker 2

Prime. And I think putting a number out there is unfair to Shane and the rest of the management team. We need to go through more so the operational review to understand what the true opportunities are to service our customers and take care of our team members and to provide the best service we can To every one of our customers, that's got to be the goal long term.

Operator

Provost. Thanks, Zach. Our next question comes from Michael Baker from Z. A. Davidson.

Operator

Michael, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 19

President. Okay. Thanks. Gene, if I could just follow-up on that last point. Can you remind What do you see as the structural differences between your margin structure and the other guys?

Speaker 19

We know there's different rent versus own situation which maybe drags down your margins a little bit versus competitors. But even if you look at it on like an EBITDAR basis, there's a huge gap Partners. And that gap has widened over time. So what are the structural differences besides you guys rent more stores than they do?

Speaker 2

Partners. Well, I think it's the mix of the business. Remember, we've got a very large business inside our business, which is the independents, Which the margin structure is very, very different, but it's a very lucrative business. I would say the biggest thing that impacts Our margins overall is the asset productivity, right? We're doing approximately 1.7 a box and the other guys are doing Approximately 2.3, 2.4.

Speaker 2

So I mean, if you just look at that productivity, you just increase it Just the $2,000,000 what it does to our margins. The flow through on that additional sales is fantastic. And also when you look at The way our distribution centers are set up, that's a huge structural disadvantage that will need to be addressed at some point. How that gets prioritized? I don't know today, but it needs to be dealt with.

Speaker 2

And so I keep reverting back Productivity. Our assets are not productive enough to create the right margin structure. Then you get into own versus rent, channel mix, our independent business, but the first priority is to improve The productivity of all the assets, that will impact the biggest impact on margins.

Speaker 19

Partners. Yes, yes, completely agree. And I would say that some of that isn't necessarily structural. So that's the opportunity. If I could ask one other question, I guess that was my follow-up to This is my main question.

Speaker 19

Talk to us about the qualities that you thought make Shane O'Kelly The right pick, is it his distribution capabilities or operational capabilities? It's been a while since I assume you looked at auto Partners. People who are in the auto parts business, how much does that factor in or how much should you consider that And what made Shane better than anyone within the business?

Speaker 2

Yes, I think great question. I mean, we had a comprehensive search, right? We talked to a lot of people. And by far, Shane was the best person for this role when you think about his experience. He's a very disciplined, thoughtful leader Who has been in the professional channel most of his career, but has had exposure to big box retail, A lot of good process and procedures he's been a part of.

Speaker 2

I think that he is a car enthusiast. He has sold into the channel before. He loves the business. And I think his leadership Style is perfect for where we are in our journey and what we need. I would say that as we talk to people that had industry experience, People that were most interesting had non competes and they're very difficult to get out of their current position because of the non competes.

Speaker 2

But even so, when it was all said and done, Shane O'Kelly was by far our best And he's just a thoughtful human being with a real focus on customers. And so we're excited to have the opportunity to bring in a leader like Jane, we're very pleased that we're able to do it as quickly as we're able to do it to identify someone with his skill and talents. And the succession committee did a fantastic job getting us to this point, and we can't wait for him to be involved.

Operator

Provost. Thanks, Michael. Our next question comes from Daniel Imbro from Stephens. President. Daniel, your line is now open.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Hey, guys. This is Joe Enderlin on for Daniel. Thanks for taking our question. Partners. You mentioned earlier that you think your internal actions are driving improvements in sales.

Speaker 13

Are you seeing the sales accelerate in the categories you're specifically investing in price? Partners. Or is it more of a broader acceleration that may suggest a better weather backdrop?

Speaker 3

Good morning. First of all, The drivers really start with availability. I mean, the availability improvements are much more closely correlated To the improvement in sales and in particular in those categories where we have big opportunities to improve versus last year and that's engine management and Heating, Cooling and Underpower. So we are seeing a very close connection. Gene said it well.

Speaker 3

There's an action that we're taking And then we see the corresponding lift and it's building through the year. The price indices that we are targeting President. We have a terrific team in the pricing area. They look at our pricing every week in every category and we do look very closely At those elasticities, I mean this category is honestly less elastic than many categories in retail because pricing is either 3rd or 4th

Speaker 13

Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you. As a Follow-up, looking at retention, could you provide some color maybe on how turnover has trended recently? Are you finding it More difficult to retain talent on the pro side or distribution side?

Speaker 3

Yes. Good question. I mean, Partners. We obviously measure it in our supply chain and in our stores. So I'll start with the stores.

Speaker 3

There's some rules in our stores that are just Providers. Vitally important, every role is critical, but you think about the general managers, our terrific general managers in the stores, the DMs, the commercial parts pros, That turnover was extremely high when I started here many years ago. It came down significantly. President. And in the last year and a half, it started to go back up.

Speaker 3

So we started to address it directly Towards the tail end of last year, we are seeing that come down. In supply chain, we same story. Partners. Steve, who is our new Head of Supply Chain has done a very good job addressing turnover and supply chain and that one has come down significantly in the last 6 months. So again, as Gene said, when your turnover is coming down, you're able to execute better.

Speaker 3

And we are executing better in our supply chain

Operator

Provost. Thanks, Daniel. We have no further questions at this time. So with that, I will hand back to Elizabeth Eiselbun for final remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you all for joining us today. We look forward to welcoming Shane here in a couple of weeks and speaking with you all again in November. Have a great day.

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