NASDAQ:CACC Credit Acceptance Q4 2023 Earnings Report $506.11 -7.04 (-1.37%) As of 09:33 AM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Credit Acceptance EPS ResultsActual EPS$10.06Consensus EPS $9.17Beat/MissBeat by +$0.89One Year Ago EPSN/ACredit Acceptance Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$491.60 millionExpected Revenue$478.80 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$12.80 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACredit Acceptance Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date1/31/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, January 31, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsCredit Acceptance's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 30, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Credit Acceptance Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJanuary 31, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Credit Acceptance Corporation 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Today's call is being recorded. A webcast and transcript of today's earnings call will be made available on Credit Acceptance website. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Credit Acceptance Chief Financial Officer, Jay Martin. Speaker 100:00:18Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to the Credit Acceptance Corporation 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. As you read our news release posted on the Investor Relations section of our website at ir.creditacceptance.com, As you listen to this conference call, please recognize that both contain forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities law. These forward looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control and which could cause actual results to differ regarding forward looking information included in the news release. Consider all forward looking statements in light of those and other risks and uncertainties. Speaker 100:01:07Additionally, I should mention that to comply with the SEC's Regulation G, please refer to the Financial Results section of our news release, which provides tables showing how non GAAP measures reconcile to GAAP measures. At this time, I will turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Ken Booth, discuss our Q4 results. Speaker 200:01:28Thanks, Jay. Our GAAP and adjusted results for the quarter include Adjusted net income of $129,000,000 which is a 17% decrease from the Q4 of 2022. Adjusted earnings per share of $10.06 which is a 14% decrease from the Q4 of 2022. In terms of collections, we had a decrease in forecasted collection rates that decreased forecasted net cash flows for our loan portfolio by $57,000,000 or 0.6 percent compared to a decrease in forecasted collection rates during the Q4 of 2022 The decrease forecasted net cash flows from our loan portfolio by $41,000,000 or 0.5%. We also had forecasted profitability for consumer loans assigned in 2020 through 2022 that was lower than our estimates December 31, 2022 due to a decline in forecasted collection rates since the Q4 of 2022. Speaker 200:02:31Also, we had slower forecasted net cash flow timing during 2023, primarily as a result of a decrease in consumer loan payments prepayments to below historical average levels. From a growth standpoint, unit and dollar volumes grew 26.7% and 21.3% respectively as compared to the Q4 of 2022. The average balance of our loan portfolio is now the largest that has ever been. On a GAAP on adjusted basis, it increased by 9% and 13%, respectively, as compared to the Q4 of 2022. Our results also included an increase in the initial spread and consumer loan assignments to 21.7% compared to 20.9% and consumer loans assigned in the Q4 of 2022 and an increase in our average cost of debt, which was primarily due to higher interest rates on recently completed or extended secured financing and the repayment of older secured financings with lower interest rates. Speaker 200:03:40At this time, Doug Busk, our Chief Treasury Officer, Jay Martin and I will take your questions. Operator00:03:47Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Moshe Orenbuch of TD Cowen. Your line is now open. Speaker 300:04:08Great, thanks. Gentlemen, if you could just talk a little bit about the competitive environment and kind of how you see it at this stage reflected in the spreads that you're seeing? Thank you. Speaker 200:04:25We feel pretty good about the competitive environment. Volume per dealer is a good metric to reflect the intensity of the environment. It increased despite the increase in new dealer enrollments, new dealers are generally less productive Preseason dealers. And that is just our overall growth rate was very high for the quarter and for the 30 days Subsequent year end. Speaker 300:04:53Yes. I didn't see the January was were the January numbers in the release for volumes? Speaker 200:04:59Yes. Yes, it was 21.5% Speaker 400:05:04For the 1st 30 days. Thank you. Speaker 300:05:09At the same time, interest rates have been up a lot. And Can you talk a little bit about how the financings you did during Q4 are going to impact interest expense? And is there a way to relate that to the amount of spread that you need to pick up to offset that? Speaker 400:05:27I mean the interest rate in Q4 was 6.3% versus 5.8% in Q3. That obviously doesn't include a full quarter of the $600,000,000 senior note issuance. So all things equal, I always thought that number would be even higher going forward. What we try to do when we price our loans is maximize the amount of economic profit. That's economic profit for loans times the number of loans. Speaker 400:06:05And In doing that, we consider the anticipated expenses we're going to incur over the life of the loan, including interest, Sales and marketing, G and A and salaries and wages. So as interest or other expenses go up, We either need to be satisfied with the lower return or reduce our expense ratio to the anticipated net cash flows. Speaker 300:06:33Got it. And you did note that there was another kind of write down for forecast changes in the quarter. Can you talk a little bit about How that will affect the adjusted yield as we go forward? Speaker 400:06:58I mean, the adjusted yield declined to 17.9% in Q4 from 18.5% in Q3. What happens in Q1 will be dependent on the yield on new loan originations and loan performance in Q1. But all else equal, if nothing else changed, you would expect a decline in forecasted net cash flows in Q4 or it's put a bit of further pressure on the adjusted yield in Q1. But again, that makes some big assumptions about all else equal. Speaker 300:07:42Got you. Thanks. And then just last one for me is, Q4, we don't get the 10 Q. So it looks like you bought back 44,000 shares. Is that Math correct? Speaker 300:07:57Like is that the right amount? Speaker 200:07:59I mean, Speaker 400:07:59I think we bought approximately 100,000 shares back, a little over 100,000. Speaker 300:08:05Got you. Okay. Thanks very much. Operator00:08:10Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Robert Wildhack of Autonomous Research. Your line is open. Speaker 500:08:30Hey, guys. A question on the forecasted collections and adjusted yield as well. First, what's behind the continued drop in forecasted collections? Is there anything specific that you'd highlight there? And then do you have any insight or thoughts on when that could ultimately bottom? Speaker 400:08:50I mean, I think it's the reason for the Loan performance being worse than initially expected is a combination of things, including the fact that those loans were originated in a very period with Hertzwell performance, those consumers financed vehicles at relatively peak valuations. I think the impact of inflation on the consumer has also contributed. It's impossible to say when loan performance will level out. If I look at the 2015 book of business, it leveled out after this point. I mean, it's still declined, but at a slower rate. Speaker 400:09:40Whether that pattern will hold true on the 'twenty two business remains to be seen. But absolutely, at some point, it will level out. It's just difficult to say precisely when. Speaker 500:09:56Okay. And then could you just speak to the current leverage level and your capacity to both continue to keep or to continue buying back shares and also continue growing at this current pace? Thanks. Speaker 400:10:13Our leverage on an adjusted basis is within the historical range. So we're very comfortable with where we are today. Obviously, our GAAP leverage is different. And it's an apples to oranges comparison of pre-twenty 20 to today's leverage. But on a consistently applied basis, our leverage is within the historical norm. Speaker 400:10:44The way we think about buybacks is our first priority is always to make sure that we have the capital that we need to fund anticipated levels of loan originations. So what that means is we're growing faster. All else equal, we buy back less stock. That doesn't mean we don't buy any, but it means we buy back less. Speaker 600:11:11Okay. Thanks, Ben. Operator00:11:14Thank you. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Vincent Caintic of Stephens. Your line is open. Speaker 600:11:26Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. First one, so you highlighted that the average loan balance As the high to spend and the loan terms have also been increasing. Just wondering, if you're kind of comfortable with those ranges, can you take them higher? And if there are any other adjustments that you are thinking about when you think about underwriting? Speaker 600:11:50Thank you. Speaker 400:11:53I mean the consumer loan balance was pretty flat on a year over year basis. Loan churn was up a month. So I don't think there's been dramatic change over the last couple of years. Speaker 600:12:12Okay. Thank you for that. And then on for the forecasted collections, I'm wondering if there's any macro assumptions that are baked into there. I guess the for instance, the Manheim Index with used car sales and used car prices or Fed rate cuts or anything like that. I don't know if that has any influence on your forecasted collections, if you could help with that. Speaker 400:12:42We don't include macro variables like unemployment rates or inflation rates or GDP or anything like that. We do have a Depreciation curve that we end up using to model forecasted collection rates. So that's factored in. But no one really knows what is going to happen to used vehicle prices over a 60 month loan term. So the way that we deal with uncertainty associated with used car prices and all the other uncertainties is just by building up pretty significant margin of safety into our loan pricing when they're originated. Speaker 400:13:30We do that. So even if loan performance is worse than expected, our loans are still likely to produce that effective levels of profitability. Speaker 600:13:41Okay. Thank you. And last one for me. So I understand you have the You forecast collections and maybe you change underwriting or change some variables to get to your desired results. But When you think about the consumer that you're lending to, just if you can if you have any views about how that consumer health is doing? Speaker 600:14:06Are trends getting better over the past couple of quarters? Thank you. Speaker 400:14:15It's pretty early to say. Thus far the 20 23 loans are performing better at the same age than the 2022 loans were. But again, that book of business really isn't all that season. We have made adjustments As we've seen the underperformance of the 2021 and 2022 loans, we've incorporated We're always making changes to our forecast based on recent trends of loan performance. So we have made adjustments to our forecast there. Speaker 400:14:55But Like it's too early to have a preclusive comment on consumer health. Speaker 600:15:03Okay, Operator00:15:07Thank you. With no further questions in the queue, I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Martin for any additional or closing remarks. Speaker 100:15:19We would like to thank everyone for their support and for joining us on the conference call today. If you have any additional follow-up questions, Please direct them to our Investor Relations mailbox at ircreditacceptance.com. We look forward to talking to you again next quarter. Thank you. Operator00:15:36Once again, this does conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Credit Acceptance reported Q4 adjusted net income of $129 million (down 17% YoY) and adjusted EPS of $10.06 (down 14% YoY). A decline in forecasted collection rates cut projected net cash flows by $57 million (0.6%), contributing to a drop in adjusted loan yield to 17.9%. Loan originations remained strong with unit volumes up 26.7% and dollar volumes up 21.3% year-over-year, driving the portfolio to its largest ever average balance (GAAP +9%, adjusted +13%). Initial loan spreads rose to 21.7% (from 20.9%), but average cost of debt climbed to 6.3% due to higher rates on new and extended financings. Credit performance on 2020–22 loans weakened—attributed to peak vehicle values and inflation—while early 2023 vintages are trending better; stability timing remains uncertain. AI Generated. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Credit Acceptance Corporation 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Today's call is being recorded. A webcast and transcript of today's earnings call will be made available on Credit Acceptance website. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Credit Acceptance Chief Financial Officer, Jay Martin. Speaker 100:00:18Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to the Credit Acceptance Corporation 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. As you read our news release posted on the Investor Relations section of our website at ir.creditacceptance.com, As you listen to this conference call, please recognize that both contain forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities law. These forward looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control and which could cause actual results to differ regarding forward looking information included in the news release. Consider all forward looking statements in light of those and other risks and uncertainties. Speaker 100:01:07Additionally, I should mention that to comply with the SEC's Regulation G, please refer to the Financial Results section of our news release, which provides tables showing how non GAAP measures reconcile to GAAP measures. At this time, I will turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Ken Booth, discuss our Q4 results. Speaker 200:01:28Thanks, Jay. Our GAAP and adjusted results for the quarter include Adjusted net income of $129,000,000 which is a 17% decrease from the Q4 of 2022. Adjusted earnings per share of $10.06 which is a 14% decrease from the Q4 of 2022. In terms of collections, we had a decrease in forecasted collection rates that decreased forecasted net cash flows for our loan portfolio by $57,000,000 or 0.6 percent compared to a decrease in forecasted collection rates during the Q4 of 2022 The decrease forecasted net cash flows from our loan portfolio by $41,000,000 or 0.5%. We also had forecasted profitability for consumer loans assigned in 2020 through 2022 that was lower than our estimates December 31, 2022 due to a decline in forecasted collection rates since the Q4 of 2022. Speaker 200:02:31Also, we had slower forecasted net cash flow timing during 2023, primarily as a result of a decrease in consumer loan payments prepayments to below historical average levels. From a growth standpoint, unit and dollar volumes grew 26.7% and 21.3% respectively as compared to the Q4 of 2022. The average balance of our loan portfolio is now the largest that has ever been. On a GAAP on adjusted basis, it increased by 9% and 13%, respectively, as compared to the Q4 of 2022. Our results also included an increase in the initial spread and consumer loan assignments to 21.7% compared to 20.9% and consumer loans assigned in the Q4 of 2022 and an increase in our average cost of debt, which was primarily due to higher interest rates on recently completed or extended secured financing and the repayment of older secured financings with lower interest rates. Speaker 200:03:40At this time, Doug Busk, our Chief Treasury Officer, Jay Martin and I will take your questions. Operator00:03:47Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Moshe Orenbuch of TD Cowen. Your line is now open. Speaker 300:04:08Great, thanks. Gentlemen, if you could just talk a little bit about the competitive environment and kind of how you see it at this stage reflected in the spreads that you're seeing? Thank you. Speaker 200:04:25We feel pretty good about the competitive environment. Volume per dealer is a good metric to reflect the intensity of the environment. It increased despite the increase in new dealer enrollments, new dealers are generally less productive Preseason dealers. And that is just our overall growth rate was very high for the quarter and for the 30 days Subsequent year end. Speaker 300:04:53Yes. I didn't see the January was were the January numbers in the release for volumes? Speaker 200:04:59Yes. Yes, it was 21.5% Speaker 400:05:04For the 1st 30 days. Thank you. Speaker 300:05:09At the same time, interest rates have been up a lot. And Can you talk a little bit about how the financings you did during Q4 are going to impact interest expense? And is there a way to relate that to the amount of spread that you need to pick up to offset that? Speaker 400:05:27I mean the interest rate in Q4 was 6.3% versus 5.8% in Q3. That obviously doesn't include a full quarter of the $600,000,000 senior note issuance. So all things equal, I always thought that number would be even higher going forward. What we try to do when we price our loans is maximize the amount of economic profit. That's economic profit for loans times the number of loans. Speaker 400:06:05And In doing that, we consider the anticipated expenses we're going to incur over the life of the loan, including interest, Sales and marketing, G and A and salaries and wages. So as interest or other expenses go up, We either need to be satisfied with the lower return or reduce our expense ratio to the anticipated net cash flows. Speaker 300:06:33Got it. And you did note that there was another kind of write down for forecast changes in the quarter. Can you talk a little bit about How that will affect the adjusted yield as we go forward? Speaker 400:06:58I mean, the adjusted yield declined to 17.9% in Q4 from 18.5% in Q3. What happens in Q1 will be dependent on the yield on new loan originations and loan performance in Q1. But all else equal, if nothing else changed, you would expect a decline in forecasted net cash flows in Q4 or it's put a bit of further pressure on the adjusted yield in Q1. But again, that makes some big assumptions about all else equal. Speaker 300:07:42Got you. Thanks. And then just last one for me is, Q4, we don't get the 10 Q. So it looks like you bought back 44,000 shares. Is that Math correct? Speaker 300:07:57Like is that the right amount? Speaker 200:07:59I mean, Speaker 400:07:59I think we bought approximately 100,000 shares back, a little over 100,000. Speaker 300:08:05Got you. Okay. Thanks very much. Operator00:08:10Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Robert Wildhack of Autonomous Research. Your line is open. Speaker 500:08:30Hey, guys. A question on the forecasted collections and adjusted yield as well. First, what's behind the continued drop in forecasted collections? Is there anything specific that you'd highlight there? And then do you have any insight or thoughts on when that could ultimately bottom? Speaker 400:08:50I mean, I think it's the reason for the Loan performance being worse than initially expected is a combination of things, including the fact that those loans were originated in a very period with Hertzwell performance, those consumers financed vehicles at relatively peak valuations. I think the impact of inflation on the consumer has also contributed. It's impossible to say when loan performance will level out. If I look at the 2015 book of business, it leveled out after this point. I mean, it's still declined, but at a slower rate. Speaker 400:09:40Whether that pattern will hold true on the 'twenty two business remains to be seen. But absolutely, at some point, it will level out. It's just difficult to say precisely when. Speaker 500:09:56Okay. And then could you just speak to the current leverage level and your capacity to both continue to keep or to continue buying back shares and also continue growing at this current pace? Thanks. Speaker 400:10:13Our leverage on an adjusted basis is within the historical range. So we're very comfortable with where we are today. Obviously, our GAAP leverage is different. And it's an apples to oranges comparison of pre-twenty 20 to today's leverage. But on a consistently applied basis, our leverage is within the historical norm. Speaker 400:10:44The way we think about buybacks is our first priority is always to make sure that we have the capital that we need to fund anticipated levels of loan originations. So what that means is we're growing faster. All else equal, we buy back less stock. That doesn't mean we don't buy any, but it means we buy back less. Speaker 600:11:11Okay. Thanks, Ben. Operator00:11:14Thank you. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Vincent Caintic of Stephens. Your line is open. Speaker 600:11:26Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. First one, so you highlighted that the average loan balance As the high to spend and the loan terms have also been increasing. Just wondering, if you're kind of comfortable with those ranges, can you take them higher? And if there are any other adjustments that you are thinking about when you think about underwriting? Speaker 600:11:50Thank you. Speaker 400:11:53I mean the consumer loan balance was pretty flat on a year over year basis. Loan churn was up a month. So I don't think there's been dramatic change over the last couple of years. Speaker 600:12:12Okay. Thank you for that. And then on for the forecasted collections, I'm wondering if there's any macro assumptions that are baked into there. I guess the for instance, the Manheim Index with used car sales and used car prices or Fed rate cuts or anything like that. I don't know if that has any influence on your forecasted collections, if you could help with that. Speaker 400:12:42We don't include macro variables like unemployment rates or inflation rates or GDP or anything like that. We do have a Depreciation curve that we end up using to model forecasted collection rates. So that's factored in. But no one really knows what is going to happen to used vehicle prices over a 60 month loan term. So the way that we deal with uncertainty associated with used car prices and all the other uncertainties is just by building up pretty significant margin of safety into our loan pricing when they're originated. Speaker 400:13:30We do that. So even if loan performance is worse than expected, our loans are still likely to produce that effective levels of profitability. Speaker 600:13:41Okay. Thank you. And last one for me. So I understand you have the You forecast collections and maybe you change underwriting or change some variables to get to your desired results. But When you think about the consumer that you're lending to, just if you can if you have any views about how that consumer health is doing? Speaker 600:14:06Are trends getting better over the past couple of quarters? Thank you. Speaker 400:14:15It's pretty early to say. Thus far the 20 23 loans are performing better at the same age than the 2022 loans were. But again, that book of business really isn't all that season. We have made adjustments As we've seen the underperformance of the 2021 and 2022 loans, we've incorporated We're always making changes to our forecast based on recent trends of loan performance. So we have made adjustments to our forecast there. Speaker 400:14:55But Like it's too early to have a preclusive comment on consumer health. Speaker 600:15:03Okay, Operator00:15:07Thank you. With no further questions in the queue, I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Martin for any additional or closing remarks. Speaker 100:15:19We would like to thank everyone for their support and for joining us on the conference call today. If you have any additional follow-up questions, Please direct them to our Investor Relations mailbox at ircreditacceptance.com. We look forward to talking to you again next quarter. Thank you. Operator00:15:36Once again, this does conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by