Inspirato Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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October 29, 2024

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by, and welcome to Inspirato Third Quarter 20 24 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Kyle Sohr, Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, and good morning. On today's call, we have Chairman and CEO, Payam Zimani CFO, Robert Kaden President, David Callery and our incoming CFO, Michael Arthur. Yesterday afternoon, we issued our press release announcing our Q3 2024 results. As a reminder, some of today's comments are forward looking statements. These statements are based on assumptions and actual results could differ materially.

Speaker 1

In addition, during the call, we will discuss non GAAP measures, which are useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for our financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Payam Zimani.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Kyle, and thank you, everyone, joining us this morning. As we sit here today, nearly 3 months into my tenure as CEO, it's time that I provide my impressions of the business as well as outline some of our plans for the company moving forward. After countless conversations with employees and members, both new and long tenure, as well as experiencing a stronger way of luxury travel firsthand, my original investment thesis has not only been validated but reinforced. Insprado is a great company with an incredible value proposition and mission of delivering exceptional experiences for our members and their families. However, I believe the company got in its own way over the past few years.

Speaker 2

We became fixated on new product offerings, obsessed with running a subscription business and committed to growing purely for growth sake. This led to a more transient member base, who have often been offered a luxury experience at a discounted price, deviating from the financial requirements of a true luxury club experience. And for a long time, this has been coupled with an overblown cost structure. These decisions impact our financial performance, while also overshadowing a number of meaningful accomplishments. For instance, year to date, we brought on 11 new luxury homes.

Speaker 2

We created signature hotel partnerships with iconic luxury brands such as Montage, the Waldorf Astoria and Fairmont. And most importantly, we've maintained an industry leading NPS score of approximately 70 amongst our members staying in our homes and enjoying their Insprado only experiences. Since I joined, we've greatly improved the foundation from which we operate. We've refreshed our boardroom, including myself, 4 of our 7 board members are new, and they bring a fresh and diverse perspective. We've cleaned up our capital structure and improved our trading fundamentals by converting all of our Class B shares into Class A.

Speaker 2

I really cannot reiterate enough how important this has been. We've regained compliance with NASDAQ listing requirements, and we've taken immediate action to better align our cost structure with our revenue. On our last call, as we mentioned, we had identified cost cutting measures expected to result in approximately $25,000,000 of annualized savings. To date, that number has grown to more than 40,000,000 dollars We'll give more details on this in a moment, but I think it's really important to mention that the reason this turned out to be a much higher number is simple. As I started digging in with the team, it was clear that we had a much larger opportunity to reduce expenses than I had anticipated.

Speaker 2

With these meaningful changes that are complete now and many of the cost cutting initiatives implemented, we can turn our attention to the future and our 2025 plans in which our primary focus will be to operate as a profitable luxury travel club. Within the construct of operating a luxury club, we will undertake several key initiatives. First, the focus of our sales efforts will be on our flagship offering, Insprada Club. Though we will continue to offer Insprada Pass and Invited as complementary products for our members. As we look to improve our retention and member LTV, we will no longer offer month to month and other short duration subscriptions.

Speaker 2

Instead, we will return to offering a club membership with initiation fees and annual dues, similar to how most clubs operate. This is the way we operated for our 1st 10 years and is incredibly important in helping us attract and retain the right type of members. We also have a proven track record of growth and high retention under this model. 2nd, we will act like the luxury brand we are. We will continue to deliver value through our 1st class services and world class portfolio as opposed to a luxury offering discounted in multiple different ways.

Speaker 2

As part of this, we will be replacing our existing rewards program, which is basically a program designed to discount our offering to a new loyalty program in the coming months. That new loyalty program will be focused on enhancing the experience of our best member clients. Finally, one thing we won't change is our focus on the member experience. In fact, we plan to make investments to enhance it. Insprado will be the best in class luxury club.

Speaker 2

Our new approach and our anticipated financial strength will give us the ability to make the investments needed to remain a cutting edge offering in a very exciting and growing space. Profitability represents a lifeblood of all well run businesses. And with that in mind, we will have a relentless focus on improving our margins. I'm not concerned with top line growth. In fact, I don't expect it next year.

Speaker 2

However, I do expect meaningful gross margin and EBITDA margin expansion that will position us for sustained profitability. Our success will ultimately be measured by our ability to provide a great service to our members while being a highly profitable company. At this point, I can say with confidence that we intend to be profitable on an adjusted EBITDA basis in Q1, and we will also expect to be cash flow positive. Finally, before turning the call over to discuss our results for the quarter, I'd like to thank Robert for the incredible work he's done as CFO over the past few years. While his list of accomplishments and contributions is too lengthy to go through at this moment, among the finest was the training and succession planning of our new CFO, Michael Arthur.

Speaker 2

Robert?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Payam. Before discussing our 3rd quarter results, I want to emphasize the point Payam just made on better aligning our cost structure with our revenue. During our last earnings call, we identified a target of approximately $25,000,000 annualized cost savings following the leadership transition. After further effort, as Brian mentioned, we've raised our savings target over $40,000,000 the majority of which we've already executed. These savings can be categorized into 3 primary buckets: leases, payroll and other operations.

Speaker 3

In terms of lease savings, approximately half of our projected lease expense savings is attributable to the early termination of a multiyear contract associated with a number of unprofitable units in one geographic location. Removing these leases, properties not popular with our member base is incredibly beneficial as it is expected to improve our profitability outlook. In terms of payroll, we anticipate approximately $18,000,000 of annualized savings, primarily as a result of the reduction in force that took place in August. Other operations, which primarily include professional services and software expenses, is expected to account for approximately $10,000,000 of annualized savings as we streamline and renegotiate our outside services. Turning to the Q3, total revenue of $69,000,000 reflected a 3% increase from the 2nd quarter and a 16% decrease year over year, primarily driven by decreased subscription revenue as a result of a decrease in the number of past members.

Speaker 3

As a reminder, this decrease was planned for as the changes we've made to the past product better align with our profitability goals. In total, we exited the Q3 with approximately 1500 past members and 10,200 club members. Travel revenue increased 9% from the 2nd quarter as we experienced a 15% increase in paid residence nights delivered. However, on a year over year basis, travel revenue decreased 13%, primarily driven by an 11% decrease in the number of total nights delivered. In terms of residents travel, we continue to see strong levels of paid nights per member.

Speaker 3

In total, paid residents nights have decreased approximately 3% year over year, which is less than that of our member base. Our average nightly rates for all paid residents delivered came in slightly above $1600 in the Q3 of each of 2023 2024. Sequentially, paid residence nights delivered increased approximately 14%, whereas night nighting rate increased 6% on average. Meanwhile, total occupancy was between 70% 73% in all periods. From a hotel standpoint, which is a smaller portion of our travel revenue than that of our residences, we had a decrease in total paid nights, but an offsetting increase in average nightly rates.

Speaker 3

Turning to cost of revenue, we continue to realize the benefits of our portfolio optimization efforts. In the Q3 of 2024, cost of revenue was approximately $50,000,000 a 14% improvement compared to nearly $58,000,000 in the Q3 of last year and 3% lower than the Q2 of 2024. Most of this improvement is due to a reduction in our leases and related fixed cost expenses, offset by some increases in booking costs due to our mix shift away from net from leased hotels toward net rate hotel agreements. Rate hotel agreements. Further, our lease expenses plus the fixed costs year to date have decreased 24% compared to 2023.

Speaker 3

Gross margin for the quarter was $49,000,000 and included a gain on lease termination of nearly $30,000,000 related to the early termination of those 4 performing assets we discussed previously. This compared to gross margin of $21,000,000 in the Q3 of last year, which included a $4,000,000 asset impairment on the same properties. Cash operating expenses in the Q3 were $27,000,000 compared to $39,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023, representing a 31% decrease. As time referenced, we have made strides in better aligning our expenses to our current revenue levels and actions we have already taken, but that we have not but not have but have not yet impacted our financial results will result in further improvements in coming quarters. We believe we are making steady progress towards a more sustainable run rate as we move into 2025.

Speaker 3

In total, we generated an adjusted EBITDA loss of approximately $3,000,000 compared to a loss of approximately $9,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023. In fact, the Q3 is the 4th consecutive quarter in which we've improved our EBITDA profile on a year over year basis. We ended the quarter with approximately $24,000,000 of cash, down $5,000,000 compared to the 2nd quarter. This quarter included the $10,000,000 investment by One Planet Group and also $4,000,000 of one time transaction related and other non recurring costs that have strengthened our position moving forward. It's worth emphasizing that we have approached the 3rd quarter as a key investment period to set ourselves up for future success.

Speaker 3

Year to date, our cash balance has decreased by $18,000,000 compared to a decrease of nearly $31,000,000 through 3 quarters in 2023. However, when excluding financing activities in each year, dollars 10,000,000 for the One Planet Group in 2024 and $25,000,000 from Capital One in 2023, our true operating cash burn through 3 quarters is $28,000,000 lower in 2024 than in 2023. This 50% improvement is not only a strong testament to the portfolio optimization work and efficiency gains throughout the organization, but an indication of further improvements in 2025 as some of our most recent efforts get fully captured. Finally, I'd like to thank the team for their tremendous work and tireless effort over the past few years and I'm excited to introduce our incoming CFO, Michael Arthur to discuss how these results pertain to our 2025 plans.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Robert. Before turning the call over to Q and A, I'd like to highlight several financial accomplishments and trends that give me a high degree of confidence heading into 2025.

Speaker 5

First,

Speaker 4

we have refocused the business back to being a club. This is designed to offer us higher retention and improved LTV associated with our members. 2nd, our cost structure is now aligned with our revenue base. On our last call, we mentioned a target of approximately $25,000,000 in annualized savings from reduced lease expenses, payroll and non payroll savings. As Payam and Robert mentioned, we have currently identified and taken action on more than $40,000,000 of annualized cost savings that we expect to fully capture in 2025.

Speaker 4

This includes the early termination of poor performing highly seasonal leases that Robert referenced, which contributes to almost 20% of our year to date EBITDA loss. 3rd, we've improved our EBITDA performance on a year over year basis in each of the last four quarters. Through 9 months, we had an adjusted EBITDA loss of approximately $8,000,000 compared to $24,000,000 last year. We fully expect the trend of EBITDA improvement to continue into 2025 through a more streamlined and simple business model. Last and most importantly, our cash burn year to date has improved significantly compared to last year.

Speaker 4

While we are not yet where we want to be, we are pleased with improvements we have made in our cash flow dynamics. As Tay mentioned, we have improved our capital structure and access to future capital if needed. In fact, during Q4, we'll be receiving an incremental $5,500,000 in financing, including $2,500,000 related to the One Planet Group exercising their option to increase their investment as outlined in the original agreement. Given these improvements, we're now on more solid footing with a better trajectory than probably ever before. I'm looking forward to working alongside all of our stakeholders as we execute our 2025 plan and expect to achieve profitability and start generating cash from operations.

Speaker 4

Before we wrap, I want to personally thank Robert for his level of service and dedication and his product during his tenure. Through his leadership, he is leaving the company well positioned for success in the quarters and years ahead. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator.

Operator

And thank you. And our first question comes from Mike Grondahl from Northland. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Hey, guys. Just first question on the $25,000,000 of OpEx saves going to $40,000,000 So I don't know if you could rank it between leases, payroll and other, maybe where the most incremental savings came from in those three categories?

Speaker 4

Hey, Mike. This is Michael. Thanks for the question. I would characterize the bulk of the incremental savings up to $25,000,000 is in the non payroll operating costs. That kind of Paim alluded to, as we dug in further, we found real opportunity to more streamline our cost structure outside of leases and non payroll.

Speaker 4

And that primarily pertain to non member facing activities like software spend and non professional services fees.

Speaker 5

Got it. Got it. And I think you said what the total annual save there is $10,000,000

Speaker 4

Correct. Correct.

Speaker 5

Got it. Any update on Capital One in getting that started?

Speaker 6

Hey Mike, this is David Callery, President. We've partnered with them a year ago and obviously the PEC integration was

Speaker 2

a tremendous lift for both teams

Speaker 6

and we've completed that. Having said that, our focus right now is really on continuing to improve our operating efficiencies, capturing that $40,000,000 that we've spoken about and annualized cost savings and ultimately getting the profitability and positive free cash flow. And when we're successful with all of that, we believe that Capital One could be a great part of our future, but for right now, we're really focused on executing the plan.

Speaker 5

Fair. That makes sense. That makes sense. How are you guys feeling about I don't know if the right word is up. Is it inflection in club or just kind of the trend in the feedback with club members?

Speaker 5

And maybe talk just a little bit more, are you guys definitively going back to that initiation fee plus annual dues? I know you mentioned that on the call, but if you could just kind of, I don't know, clarify that a little bit.

Speaker 2

Hi, Michael. This is Payam. Yes, we are definitively going to pursue the club membership versus the subscription program that the company has been selling over the past few years. And I know that for some on the call, the difference between a membership and a subscription may be subtle, but it actually is relatively a significant thing. When you join a club, typically join a club because that's a commitment you want to have for the long term.

Speaker 2

It's not like joining a country club, whereas subscription could be something that you subscribe to, but then you may not that will range from $10,000,000 to $15,000,000 It will start at about $10,000 and then grow to about $15,000 by Q2. And then there is an annual due that will be just over $5,000 a year. And the combination of that, we think will give us access to the right kind of club members that will represent the kind of stability that this company will need and it has had in the past. Michael, anything you want to add to that?

Speaker 4

Yes. A couple of other things, Mike. And Paim alluded to this in his prepared remarks, but this we're going back to our roots in this product structure and we've seen these members be a more secure member base than our subscription type products. They retain at a higher clip. They have a higher LTV both because of retention, but also their spending patterns.

Speaker 4

And so we believe through that through those efforts, it will more stabilize that subscriber or kind of club membership base versus what we've seen historically. But even in the most recent couple of quarters, we've seen sequential improvement in the past 4 quarters. We've also seen solid recent data points in both in new sales and optimistic about kind of returning to growth in the future. But obviously, we'll still take probably into the first half of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5

And just so I understand it. So under that newer model, we'll call it, but the old legacy model, the initiation fee will be $10 growing to $15 and then annual dues will be $5,000 Did I hear those right?

Speaker 2

Those are approximate figures, yes.

Speaker 5

Approximate. And is there a start date for this or has it already started?

Speaker 2

We have already announced that, and it will officially go into effect as of Jan 1.

Speaker 5

Okay. January 1, 2025. Okay. And then, hey, lastly, just a couple of financial questions. I think you said for 2025, you would not expect revenue growth, but you'd expect an expansion in gross margin and adjusted EBITDA margin.

Speaker 5

Any other color and I think you said adjusted EBITDA, was it breakeven or profitable in 1Q 2025?

Speaker 2

So, this is Payam.

Speaker 5

I guess the best way

Speaker 2

to put it is that, I think that growth can be measured in many different ways. And I'm a bit more old school, I think, when it comes to operating a business that I think that growth without profits is kind of meaningless. And so we are very focused on profitability and maximization of margins and EBITDA. Now if revenue growth comes as a part of that, albeit, but I don't expect revenue growth next year. I think that ultimately, we will require revenue growth in order to continue to grow margins and EBITDA.

Speaker 2

But I don't think that next year will be the year for that. I think next year will be the year for us to be very focused on profitability and margin expansion. And we have many vectors for that, many opportunities to go after that. Now we have not yet finalized our plans for 2025, so I cannot give you anything specific. But at this point, we do expect to be profitable and cash flow positive, profit on an adjusted EBITDA basis and cash flow positive during Q1 of 2025.

Speaker 5

Okay. That's helpful. And then lastly, Q4 2024, seasonally, it's a slower quarter. It's a down quarter from Q3. Is that the right way to think about Q4, the current quarter we're in?

Speaker 4

Hey, Mike, this is Michael again. Yes, that's the right way. So Q3 outside of kind of the holiday period is a slower travel quarter for us. But at the same time on an EBITDA basis, we are expecting continued improvement on EBITDA, especially as we talk about that $40,000,000 much of that starts to get realized in Q4. So we still expect the EBITDA improvement trends to continue while on a seasonality basis Q4 is a little bit lower on revenue.

Speaker 5

Got it. Okay. Hey, thanks guys. And good luck with the progress. So far it seems pretty productive.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And I'm showing no further questions. I would now like to turn the call back over to Payam Zimani, Chairman and CEO, for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Well, thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. We really appreciate you being with us this morning, and we really look forward to meeting with all of you again in a few months as we share our Q4 and final results for 2024 and provide you with guidance for Q1 and 2025. And until then, wishing you all the best. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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